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January 2, 2026 42 mins

Jonas Knox & Brady Quinn chat it up with Albert Breer as they discuss MVP talks Joe Burrow's mindset and even bring up Breer's Buckeyes. Plus, the guys give their picks against the spread in the final week of the NFL regular season, the leftovers, and more!

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Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah? I uh yeah, what truth? I don't know what
truth there is to hash out here. I think we
all saw what happened the other night, So I.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Hey, Albert, at what point did you start betting the
elbow after watching that performance?

Speaker 4 (01:21):
It was? It was a tough one. Brand I will
say I can't be accused of about being the mush
because I was not in the building for that one.
But uh yeah, it was a rough first half and
you know, we couldn't get it going quite enough and
speed it up quite enough there in the second half.
So I mean credit to Miami, like those those monsters

(01:41):
they have up front on even the side, you know,
had their way when they need to have the way
or the game.

Speaker 6 (01:47):
And you know, we got control for a little.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
While, and then at the end of the game they
wind up, you know, finding sort of their second win
and that was that. So uh yeah, it's pretty wild.
But I'm not I'm not the only one on here
with an Alma monor who lost to Miami this year.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
Right, Oh geez, that's right. Over the differences, some of
us think that maybe Notre Dame should have been in
the playoff because they would have performed better than Ohio State.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Okay, okay, Well, I mean like everybody's got.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
I mean, we did see both teams playoff are just
having to be in their home stadium week one, and
it was a pretty tight game for a team that
presumably got betters this season.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Went on.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
I guess that's the That's where I'll go with you next,
is what happened to Ohio State since their win over Michigan.
I feel like offensively just they never really could figure
it out running the football, but also just the pass
game two really struggled.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah, I'd say, like there's a million things that were
kind of going through my head on that. I mean,
I think like the offensive line they were managing and
the issue at right guard I think all year and
you know, I don't know how much they were challenged
in that area, but it really blew up on them,
you know, early in this game.

Speaker 6 (02:51):
And you know, then I think the left tackle.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
You know, from what I understand, was hurt, but like
I don't think he was playing very well in anyway.
And so then they go they go to backups to
both those spots in the second half, which is I
think is go'd be extremely rare to change that two
offensive linemen and that sort of game at halftime and
it's stabilized. I honestly think Brady, like I think, like

(03:17):
when you look back at last year, right, and how
they went from this slow moving offense into like this
breakneck attack at all angles, force them to defend every
blade of grass type offense in the playoffs, you know, Like,
I think we all kind of had it in her
head that they were going to be able to flip
that switch again, and then they fall behind these games
and she said they didn't have it, you know. I

(03:38):
mean I would say this, like even in the third quarter, right,
like that first drive, they march down the field and score,
But the whole time, I'm thinking to myself, why are
they going so slow? You know what I mean, they're
down two scores? Like why why aren't you picking up
the pace a little? Like don't you want to maximize
the amount of times that you're going to have the
ball here? And maybe it was to give their defense

(04:00):
or take some snaps off of them. I don't know,
but you know, I just didn't look like that gear
that that they had last year existed the same way
I think defense is mostly final though, give Miami's offensive
line credit like they got them in second and six
and third and two a lot, you know, and as
you know better than me, like that can be. That
can be the ballgame, and I think it kind of

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was the.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Other night, all right, So this does put to test
the theory. And we were talking about this and the
feeling last year you did beat Michigan, but you won
the national team.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
I have thought about this before.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Were going, okay, so which which postseason feels better for you?

Speaker 3 (04:41):
This year or last year?

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Last year I won the Natty. I mean, like I've
heard that question before.

Speaker 6 (04:48):
It sucks that the you know, losing to Michigan.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
I'm not going to lie about that. Brady saw me
suffer through that live and in living color.

Speaker 7 (04:56):
But I actually suffering.

Speaker 6 (04:59):
Yeah, yeah, Brady, Brady.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Brady, Brady made my suffering a national story. So I
appreciate that.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
Brady.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Yeah, I missed that similar to someone, but I didn't
point out to your section too, that you're the bad
You're the most you're the bad luck, which most people
started to turn on you.

Speaker 7 (05:13):
There are some different epithets and things thrown out your way.

Speaker 8 (05:16):
I wasn't I can't but yeah, I mean Brady Brady
may or may not have gotten one of the professor
the professional photographers that Fox employees to take a picture
of me.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
I don't know. I may or may not have happened,
but uh but but yeah, like I I uh, I
like that was honestly, like I as much as that sucks,
like the run of the championship was incredible last year,
and I loved the rivalry. It's you know, I've got
family on on on the other side of it. I

(05:47):
got a lot of friends on both sides of it,
and it's is like one of the most important days
of the years. Childs is that sounds for me?

Speaker 6 (05:57):
So I uh, you know, I I.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Respect the rivalry like you wouldn't believe. But you know,
I would take the Natty over beating Michigan for sure,
and I'm sure it will be the same thing for them.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
You know, Albert, have you seen a We're catching up
with Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
The m m QB here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
But have you seen an NFL comp to what is
happening in Indiana?

Speaker 4 (06:24):
That's a good question, Like maybe the rams with McVeigh.
Would that be the closest one, like a five.

Speaker 7 (06:36):
Hundred team though when Fish was there?

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Yeah, the last by the way, they had had the
greatest show on turf in their history. They had. Yeah, God, like,
who would that be?

Speaker 7 (06:50):
I don't think there is one.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Jackie Parcel, Barcells brought the Patriots to respectability before Belichick
was there. I don't know. I don't think they're is mgdays.

Speaker 6 (07:01):
Have wanted to popped in my head. I mean mcday
popped in my head just because they were so bad,
you know what I.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Mean, like the year like like the year before he
got there, like they really kind of collapsed. But I
mean Brady's right, like they were. They were close to
five hundred with Jeff Fisher and you know, like I
think turning around golf was eye opening because golf.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
Was not good as a rookie, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Like, so you have that maybe the Lions, the Lions
would be the closest thing.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
I think that's probably fair. The Lions thing.

Speaker 7 (07:31):
Browns fans would have something to say.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
The difference is the Browns before the merger and like
deep into the history of their organization have had success.
It's just been a long time like and no point
has Indiana ever had success playing football, at least not
to the magnizu these two.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Years, right, I mean, and that's the thing, like college
versus pro Like that's sort of the difference, Like it's
that you don't have Like it's because like college is
sort of said up further to be established towers. Then
they're to be teams. They are for there to be
teams that are sort of in the bottom half of
their conference perpetually, like the NFL has set up the

(08:10):
you know, for the best teams to rise to the top,
the worst team so eventually rise back to the top,
and then for the best teams to come back to earth.
So I can't think of one. I mean, what's that
he's done. I said this on Twitter yesterday. It is
the best coaching I think, maybe the best coach job
I've ever seen any sport in my lifetime. Unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
Yeah, and that's literally what I said earlier today, Like
I can't think of another example, and I'm sure someone
else might have one out there so tweeted us or something.

Speaker 7 (08:40):
But I want to transition the NFL.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
U What is there all this to do with Lamar
Jackson and everything else, like he's going to play in
this game, there are speculation that he wouldn't. I mean,
Harball's had to kind of talk about it. It's become
a story because the story was put out there, Like
what do you make of all this?

Speaker 4 (08:58):
I think it's like, you know, I think this is
sort of an insight baseball thing, Rerady.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
But you know, I would say like this has.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Sort of been like the the awkwardness of the whole
relationship going back to the first contract negotiation, and I
think so much of it stems from him not having
an agent, because it doesn't just you have to follow
me here, but it doesn't just affect the contract. It
can make things awkward with the contract because you've got
to say things in contract negotiations that wind up affecting

(09:26):
things big picture wise. I think John Harball has always
been able to navigate that fine. You know.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
I think one of the things.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
That that that that it does seem to like create
like and has created over the years, is when this
guy is hurt, there really isn't like someone out there
giving clarity explaining where he's at. And you know, like
that's a part of like all this that happens with
most players, as.

Speaker 6 (09:54):
I'm sure you guys know, is like ninety percent of
the time when.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
You're seeing detailed injury information out there, it's coming by
the agent. Well why would the agent do that? The
agent would do that, so everyone knows that, Like, look,
my guy's trying to be out there, wants to be
out there. Here's what he's dealing with, Here's what he's
had to deal with. Like this isn't you know, it's
protecting the reputation of the player. And Lamar hasn't really

(10:17):
had somebody to do that. And I don't think because
of who he is, like like he doesn't care what
people think, So he isn't doing that publicly. And so
if you noticed earlier in the week, but John Harbulgy
more detailed injury information on Lamar than I've ever heard
him give on anybody, you know, in eighteen years of
covering him as a head coach, you know. And so
I think that that was sort of an all apprentich

(10:39):
to Lamar. But certainly these are all questions, you know,
like his his you know, his injury history you know,
is now relatively sensive. His workload is historic. No quarterback
has ever taken on the sort of the workload that
he has in the run game, and you know, like
if every time.

Speaker 6 (10:57):
He gets hurt, now, the bigger picture of questions.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Are going to be a going to be asked about,
like is this where he breaks down?

Speaker 6 (11:04):
And that's gonna, you know, you know, sensibly.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Affect the way that you handle content negotiations if you're
the Ravens. So I don't think there's anything nefarious here.
I think it's more just the awkward, unique setup of
how things have been there and how things are and
they've been able to navigate it for so many years.
I think he'll play on Sunday. I think he'll play
well on Sunday. But you know, those big picture questions,

(11:27):
I think it'll still exist.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Albert who if anybody is coaching for their job this
weekend in the NFL to where look, I mean Arthur
Smith was.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
In here go one way or the other?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
You mean, yeah, cause I remember back to Arthur Smith
with the Falcons and it was like it seemed like
he was safe and then the final two weeks of
the season it just fell apart and they ended up
moving on.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
But you look at this week.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
And Judge would be another one. Yeah, boy, right, yeah, y,
all right. So, like I think Miami's a coin toss
right now, I would say, have a list in front
of me so I can take it through home. But Miami,
I think is a coin toss right now. They've brought
in Troy to consult with them, and you know, I
do think that the ownership there really likes Mike McDaniel

(12:10):
and wants to go forward with Mike McDaniel. But a
lot of asking kind of depends on how they are
coming out, how they are coming out of the season.
When they do a full assessment Cleveland, I'd expect that
they're going to sit down Sunday night Monday to hash
all of that out where they're at. You know, I
know they've discussed the restructure. I don't know how likely
that is, you know. And then I think that there's
probably a two way conversation that with Kevin Stefanski on

(12:31):
his appetite to keep going Indianapolis has come up the
last couple of weeks. I don't know that they'll make change,
but they are a little bit of a wild card
because Jim Merceady's daughter is now in charge and.

Speaker 6 (12:42):
So she doesn't really have track director yet.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
One way or the other. So we'll see where that goes. Vegas.
I think the Raiders will make a change, and I
think Pete Carroll will be gone, and I think you
hear a lot about Tom Brady's involvement in the organization
going forward from here. You know, Atlanta like da've won
a bunch of games in a row.

Speaker 7 (13:01):
Now what do they do?

Speaker 4 (13:03):
I think that's, you know, an open question now. And
I think Raheem Moore has has helped himself the last
few weeks, but they have a.

Speaker 6 (13:09):
Consulting firm in there.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Matt Ryan is going to be involved at some level.
I've heard it could be like a Christielman type of role.
And I think there'll be some level of change, But
I think Raheem has got a better shot now to
survive potentially than the general manager there, Terry Fonteau has.
And I think Arizona a lot some change as well,
but I don't think it'll be total change. So could
I see like the GM staying and the head coach

(13:30):
going possibly? I know they like both guys. You know,
if they try to push change on Jonathan Gannon, will
gann and go down with the ship? I think those
are some questions you can ask there and then you know,
get in Baltimore, Pittsburgh.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
Buffalo like those situations.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
I think at least they're watching. You know, could Mike
Tomlin walk away do TV for a year? Buffalo has
an early exit? Has that affect things? I think those
are those are situations will I'll be watching as well.
Campa is another one where I think Tampa's you know,
I don't think they're out of the woods if they
lose tomorrow, so it'll be interesting to see the way
they handle all that.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Yeah, the NFC South, the gift that just keeps on
giving a team can be what won in their last
eight games they've played.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
I think they've won once and they're still in the
hunt for the playoffs and the division.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
I want to ask you, if you had an m
DP vote today, who would be four?

Speaker 4 (14:20):
So I do have one, which means I can't tell you.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
I know, I just tell us who he plays for.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Yeah, both, I gave you the conference that would give
it away. I think at this point, right.

Speaker 6 (14:33):
I think, I honestly think like I think.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
So let me let let me knows this your votes
down to two guys? It is it fair to say that.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
I would be going to the final weekend you did.
If you're speaking conceptually, like I think that there are
two front runners.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
Yeah, and then let's just kind of pick around on
little ones.

Speaker 7 (14:51):
Do you uh.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
You know, are you more impressed by someone who's doing
it at an older age or a younger age.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
I'm kind of neutral on that.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Okay, Well, what about a guy who uh you know,
plays and could perceive to be a tougher division.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
I mean, I think that that's all a matter of opinion, right,
isn't it?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Like, No, it's factual. The NFC West is much tougher
than the AFC. I was I was going to go
I was going to go Ohio State alum. So I
was thinking Jackson Smith and Jigba and Justin Fields, like
I wasn't sure if those were the two. Yeah, I
don't know like that. I was just thinking Ohio State guys.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
I actually think a number of guys have it, like
I didn't beyond the two obvious ones. I do think
like a number of guys have a case like I. Okay,
christ McCaffrey, Allen, Josh Allen, Josh Allenson, a lot Christian
McCaffrey's and a lot Justin Herbert As, I.

Speaker 7 (15:41):
Mean John Robinson should be a part of it, if
you just like with the stats.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
John Robinson's had a dying in my year. Now, do
you give it to a running back who's going to
miss the playoffs?

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Probably not right, No, but still, like I don't know
that that's the way we should be looking at it.

Speaker 7 (15:57):
But yeah, I realized that's part of the the equation.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Yeah, yeah, I mean mcaffrey's got a good case. Like
you look at McCaffrey like he's the one constant, right, Like, so,
like they've had to play without Fred Warner and Nick
Bosa for most of the year, they were without brock
Party for a chunk of the year, they were without
you know, they were without Deebo Samuel this year, without
Brandon Ayuk this year. That's the top two receivers from

(16:22):
last year, Kittle, that's a lot of time. Like, but
Jaffrey's case to me is pretty good based on just
the amount of moving parts around him and how they
won twelve games, and he's the one constant.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
And Albert jonas Is pointed this out, especially not getting
distracted with off the field stuff.

Speaker 7 (16:37):
You know, when you think about what he goes on.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
To every day.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
He listen Christmas every single day of the year, you
know what I mean, Like, it's just I'm just saying, man,
certain people got it and certain people don't.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
I did want as you've got something.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
You got some Instagram.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
D some deep diggings. I mean, you've never seen so
much preparation put into this.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Hey, albert An, I've.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Got the the All twenty two if you need it,
So I'll just anytime you want.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
To just let me know.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
I know.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
What's gonna I was gonna ask you this though, the
hell's going on with Max Crosby. I mean, this is
the like, this is so blatant and at is the
NFL gonna step in or are they gonna be like,
what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (17:21):
The guy wants to play?

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Or is this just he's being vocal and he is
more banged up than he has to acknowledge.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
And and that's where we're at with this.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
I mean, I think for Max, it's the pride thing,
you know, Like I think you know, it's it's tough
man Like he has been on team that hasn't been
very good. He's made the playoffs once since he came
into the league in twenty nineteen is his seventh year.
He's twenty eight years old. They haven't been in contention much,
and so what does he have, Like, you know, he
watch the show that he can play full seasons and

(17:52):
still be the same guy, and you know, sack totals
and Defensive Player of the Year runs and all that
different stuff. It's like sort of what he's left to
play for, you know. And I don't think that he
liked having a decision taken out of his hand. That said,
this is something that he's dealt with since October, you know,
and it's gotten worse over the course of time. There
was never any dispute that he was going to need

(18:14):
surgery to fix it at some point, and he will
need surgery to fix it after the season, which you know,
and he'll now have. And basically what happened was they
felt like his play fell off the last few weeks.
So on Tuesday of last week, they took they had
him coming and do a scan. They felt like at
that point that the damage was significant enough. They told

(18:36):
him that they were going to shut him down. He
went and got second opinions from two outside doctors who
are really respected guys. Both said that if he could
manage the pain that he could go ahead and play,
And so that's where the disagreement was, you know. And
I know, like listen, like he's suspicious of like what's
going on here too, you know what I mean. Like,
so it's not just us.

Speaker 6 (18:57):
Like he has his suspicions over over the re.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
He's ink for sitting down. But you know, clearly, I
think it's like kind of created a little bit of
a divide between between Max and the organization, between Max
and potentially Tom Brady. And this to me is as
close as we've come to match potentially asking for a
trade that hasn't happened yet, but I think it's certainly
something that will be keeping an eye on in February

(19:21):
and March.

Speaker 7 (19:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
Tom Brady's a pretty persuasive guy, so I'm sure he's
don't want to talk to him to calm down some
of that speaking of just another player, maybe there's something
going on with the organization.

Speaker 7 (19:33):
Joe Burrow.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
We've heard him talk about Miles Garrett the sack record
to be sacked or to not be sacked. That's not
really where I want to go with this though, because
he's talked about the Bengals playoffs route.

Speaker 7 (19:43):
He's talked about things needing to change.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
I mean, it feels like it's been the longest season
for Bengals fans, considering at one point Joe Flacco was
their starter who actually started the season in Cleveland. Like,
it's just been a lot Bengals fans, but for Joe
Burrow too, anything.

Speaker 7 (19:57):
To keep an eye on the off seasons. We approached
the last game the season.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, I don't think he's there yet, you know, but
I think.

Speaker 6 (20:03):
We're I think everybody's at the radar up for.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
You know, eventually something because I looked like, could this
become Matthew Stafford in Detroit. The Bengals themselves have history
with something like that.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
With Carson Palmer.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
What was it in twenty ten? I think so, Like
I think, you know, like this is I think it's good.
I think it's fine now. I think, you know for
twenty twenty six, he'll be locked in, you know, but
that that's not a forever thing, you know what I mean?
Like they you know, he wants, he badly wants to

(20:34):
compete for championships. He was in the AFC title game
after a second year, after a third year made a
Super Bowl, and you know, I think he understands and
appreciates the fact that he'll be judged on wins and
losses as a quarterback.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
You know so, And that's why I think he's taking such.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
An active role in trying to be a change agent
in the organization. I mean, i'd say, like the little
things like getting an indoor facility built, which was a
little bit absurd that they didn't have one, but getting
an indoor facility built Incincinatti was was part partly because
of his presence and the pressure that he the modern
I think, I know, I.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
Wish you understood how many times I've called the organization
cheap and Bengals fans or irate with me, and I'm like, dude,
you didn't even fly in some of your former greats
for some of these like ring of honor inductions like
you're you're mad at me for telling the truth, Like I'm.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Sorry, by the way, Albert, is it true that Joe
Burrows the reason they have running water too in the
building or is that well he has.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Helped them he I mean, look, but he did push
to have marches extended, Higgins extended Da Trey Hendrix his
contract address. Like for all those.

Speaker 7 (21:42):
Things they've got a bubble.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
They don't.

Speaker 7 (21:46):
They don't have an indoor. They have a bubble.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
There's a difference between that.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
Yah, that's true. They have a bubble.

Speaker 7 (21:52):
Bubble if I could pop it with a rusty nail.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
I don't know if it counts as like big movement
in that regard, Like Jonas and I can go buy
a tent sport goods.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
There's just on the side.

Speaker 6 (22:06):
I mean, that is true, Jonahs.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
The reality they have a they have a bubble like
your your your local health pub, you know what I mean.
I I uh, you know, but I and I've heard
all the stories that Brady has like it's gotten better.
I mean back in the day. I remember, God, I
remember going on from Chad Johnson when he got to

(22:29):
New England in the locker room and I was, you know,
I was, you know, talking with him and everything. And uh,
I said, like, hey, is the thing about the gatorade
true in Cincinnati and that you know about that? And
the story I had heard was that they don't like
they actually have the gatorade neck there. They didn't have
like the actual gate you know. I counter.

Speaker 7 (22:51):
So that was that's.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Hey, when they're out, what do they do? They used
tang or is it kool aid? What do they do?
What's the option be?

Speaker 5 (23:02):
By the way, Albert, I believe Palmer made it seven
years in Cincinnati before he kind of forced his way
out to Oakland. And I think is Jo is he
going into year six or is he finished this year six?

Speaker 6 (23:15):
Year six?

Speaker 4 (23:16):
For him? I think Palmer? Yeah, I think you're right
because when you were tired and yeah, because he made
it through a nine and then retired after a nine
and I think in ten, if I remember, that was
when the Raiders trade no no, or was it eleven?
It was I think when the Raiders traded for him.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, that's unfortunate. Well, hey, you know you got Joe Burrow.
Maybe it'll be around h you know for I.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Mean, I mean, a big fake, A fake resirement is
a pretty pretty drastic measure.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
I think it's amazing. Powdered gatorade powdered.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
Oh wait, so he wasn't the Bengals and he did
play for the Bengals in ten.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Okay, so it was a lockout when he retired. I
was off here. So you played eight years in Cincinnati,
So the cost the coast.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Second, Yeah, well maybe we appreciate it as always. Enjoy
the games this weekend and we'll do it again next week.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
There is.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Happy New Year to you at yours, uh, senior lead
Content Strategy. I told you that was it?

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Like that, that was it after that, It's just you know,
we're running out the score feels like, Uh, you.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Can get them on X by the way at Albert Breer. Uh.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
If you know you've got any thoughts that you want to,
you know, express to Albert there on social media you can.
But I do know this, man, and it's but you
especially if all people know this, Brady, because sometimes it's
real rough. When you try and wipe with a piece
of dry toilet paper, you're probably wondering, is this as
good as it gets?

Speaker 4 (24:48):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
It's not.

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Speaker 6 (26:48):
Five for.

Speaker 10 (26:50):
Five lines, not those kind of lines. Five picks, five spreads.
Time for picks against the spread? Patrick Sweek. Where do
we stand?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
We do this throughout the course of course of the
year on our show Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Where do we stand as far as picks go? Because
I think that I was in the league.

Speaker 11 (27:13):
Time, Well, uh, you know, if you flip it around
Jonas and do opposite.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Day, Yeah, you are in the league, all right, Knox Locks,
But that's not reality. Jones.

Speaker 11 (27:24):
You're forty three and fifty two batting average at four
fifty three and third place for Jonas.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Wait, second, I was just one five hundred of what
happened awful.

Speaker 10 (27:35):
Well, I'll tell you what I know.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
It's the dumbest.

Speaker 11 (27:38):
Oh my god, one zero and four jonas last week.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
I didn't knowize it was that bad.

Speaker 7 (27:44):
Okay, I bumped those numbers out.

Speaker 11 (27:46):
Those are rookie numbers, and our our our fearless leader
in the standings, and it was always never within doubt
here Brandon tee quinns fifty nine.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
When swift.

Speaker 7 (28:00):
Forget the PG version today, huh.

Speaker 11 (28:02):
Yes we do. Yes, you are at batting average at
six oh eight. That's fiery Brady, thank you. And then
VARs in second place batting average for seventy two, he's
a fifty eight to sixty five. All those are a
bunch of money lines and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
I still on line.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
We don't know, Jerry, but we're not sure.

Speaker 11 (28:20):
All right, Well, it is now time for week eighteen's
version of a Picks against the Spread. I have our
first game up here. First one is Anthers at Buccaneers.
This is my best version of doing that guy's voice
for us. But the Buccaneers are three point favorites at
home and staying on Panthers with that, so we're gonna

(28:41):
go first, our fearless leader, Brady, you get to go first.

Speaker 7 (28:44):
Thank you. I appreciate that. Here's how I viewed this game.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
Okay, at home, division on the line, playoffs on the line.
Baker Mayfield with the red ass because remember this is
one of the teams that he was on before finding
his way to Tampa. So you know how he operates,
you know how he works. He will find a way
not only of winning this game, but covering the spread

(29:09):
despite the fact of he uh that's one in seven
uh or one win in the last eight games.

Speaker 7 (29:17):
Streak is now.

Speaker 11 (29:19):
Okay, Okay, let's go Brady. All right, Well, next up,
I'm gonna choose Jonas.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
You get to go. Well, you can't choose LeVar. He's
not here.

Speaker 11 (29:28):
I know I'm gonna be kind of serving the what
LeVar gave me there, so i'll.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
I can't. I'm so tired of the NFC South. I'm
just tired of it.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Like, can we trade them out for a CFL division?

Speaker 11 (29:43):
Like?

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Is that possible?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Like I'm just saying, can we get the big ten
in the NFL and then just like throw the NFC
South down?

Speaker 3 (29:49):
It's awful. I have no idea. I'm fed up with it.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
I've been wrong on every single pick, but I'm gonna
go with Tampa Bay in this spot. It's just because
it's at home. Like I want the full disclosure. I
want Carolina to win. I'm rooting for Carolina, but I
think Tampa Bay gets it done at home. They've got
more experience. At some point, they've got to turn this
thing around. There'll be a one and done in the playoffs.

(30:16):
But give me the Bucks minus three Knox locks.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
And finally we have LeVar Arrington.

Speaker 11 (30:24):
Now he's not here, buddy did give it to me,
and all right, first money line wasn't.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Ready for what it is that I wanted.

Speaker 7 (30:31):
To give to him.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Thank you, LeVar.

Speaker 11 (30:33):
First money line of the day to day people, money
line for bar money stack picks.

Speaker 7 (30:40):
Some cells are gonna be a few more of those.

Speaker 11 (30:43):
Maybe I think we're onto something here. Well, next game
up here, we have something near and dear to my heart.
It's the Seahawks at forty nine Ers. Seahawks are one
and a half point favorites on the road going on
to go take on the forty nine ers.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Jonas, you get to go first on this one. I'm
taking Seattle the Niners knocks locks.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Look, I know, everybody's all into Brock forty and all
into the forty nine ers right now, and it's awesome.
And he does some you know, he butchers the dougie
every time he wants to, you know, score a touchdown.

Speaker 7 (31:14):
Is this sweet?

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:16):
I mean, well for a white guy, Okay, but.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
You know, look, I'm not I'm mucating on it. Yeah,
why I sid always race with you. So I do
think that, uh this I look at it. The Niners
have found themselves in a really difficult spot late in
the year. They played on a Monday night, they came
back on a short week and played Sunday. Now they're

(31:39):
coming back on a short week again and playing on
a Saturday. They're already banged up as it is. That
defense that they're going to see this weekend is not
the Bears. Like like, they're like, you're not going to
have the same success that you had against the Bears,
and if you do, like I will gladly acknowledge defeat.
But I think Seattle gets it done here and I
think the Seahawks are going to be the one and

(32:00):
see in the NFC.

Speaker 11 (32:02):
Okay, let's go Jonas I like knocks locked knocks, flocks, It.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Knocks locks, and I'm actually good.

Speaker 11 (32:15):
I'll just do Levars here, just to kind of switch
it up around here, var would you believe it?

Speaker 4 (32:20):
Here?

Speaker 11 (32:20):
Guys is a money one sticks picks.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
You know what I think of saying When I think
of his handicapping, I think of effort.

Speaker 11 (32:33):
Yeah do it, Brady, you get the guy that for
a dollar, Brady, you get to go next?

Speaker 7 (32:39):
All right?

Speaker 5 (32:41):
For all the things Jonas just said he's been so
bad at picking games this year, I'm just gonna have
to money find the.

Speaker 7 (32:47):
Forty nine ers.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
I mean, the reality is Party has been playing incredible.
This is a home game for the forty nine ers.
I do feel like they'll find a way of not
only covering it's a tight spread, but winning this game
outright with a guy who should be getting more love
for the MVP and Christian McCaffrey. So give me money
line for the four nine ers.

Speaker 7 (33:05):
When's when?

Speaker 3 (33:08):
All right?

Speaker 11 (33:09):
Super Mario on that for the Brady Quinn pick. With
that said, let's move on over to the Lions at Bears.
Bears are three point favorites at home, taking on Chris
Prophett's Detroit Lions here, and I'm gonna just go with
Levar's right out the gate here, and would you believe guys,

(33:30):
this is a shocker.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
It's still a money line sticks picks. Yeah, I still
get you can literally give.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
You could give him a game that doesn't exist, say
money money like, hey, hey, Lamar, who you got Lions, Lakers?
Money line sticks picks picks.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Brady, you get to go next.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
I'm just gonna fade Jonas because I know he's going
to try to lay the points here with the Bears
at home. So this is nothing other than me taking
Detroit purely out of spite because I know where Jonas's
heart's at.

Speaker 7 (34:06):
And uh yeah, that's that's the only reason I'm doing this.
I actually think the Bears will win. However, I'm gonna
take the lines in the points when where.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Like you're some mind reader, like you know who I'm
gonna pick and whom I like, I don't understand? Like,
where do you get off thinking they?

Speaker 10 (34:25):
You know me?

Speaker 3 (34:25):
The way that you know?

Speaker 7 (34:26):
We go ahead? Jonas?

Speaker 11 (34:27):
You know.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
For me, I'm a mayn' What do you go?

Speaker 11 (34:32):
Jo?

Speaker 7 (34:32):
What do you got in there? Buddy?

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Take the Bears?

Speaker 7 (34:36):
There you go there? Knocks locks?

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Why why am I not surprised.

Speaker 7 (34:42):
That's all right.

Speaker 11 (34:45):
Well for our fourth game, guys, we have commanders at Eagles.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Oh God, christ Off, how how is the spread? What works?
At its? Eagles are four and a half point favorites at.

Speaker 7 (34:59):
Home, getting to there's no analysis need.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
The commanders can't stop anyone, even if the Eagles have a.

Speaker 7 (35:05):
Bad offensive day, which it could be ugly. I'm laying
the points here at the Eagles wins.

Speaker 11 (35:10):
Whist all right, Jonas, go on, next, are we getting
Josh Johnson versus Tanner McKee?

Speaker 3 (35:18):
I think we are?

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Oh no, I think I think we're getting the Josh
Johnson Tanner McKee.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
John Please, if that's the.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Case, Ty goes to the guy who's been around and
playing quarterback in the NFL since the eighteen hundreds. I'm
gonna go Josh Johnson and the Washington Commanders and they're
getting four and a half points on the road in
this spot. Give me the commandos man knocks locks.

Speaker 11 (35:45):
All right, now, it's time for var's pick here everybody,
and honestly, we finally have something different.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
I'm kidding. It's still a money line.

Speaker 11 (35:55):
Sticks picks four for four here, everybody, let's go are Oh,
lord like this.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Let me tell you who deserves blame for this.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Brady Quinn deserve Why why you allowed this to happen?
You allowed money line. It's it's like giving a kid
a cookie for Brad.

Speaker 7 (36:16):
I did to give you guys a chance. I don't
even pick as many as everyone else does. Well, you
don't pick much at all, but still.

Speaker 11 (36:23):
Oh my god. Well, our final game for our picks
here is we have Ravens at Steelers. Ravens are three
and a half point favorites on the road taking on
Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
And I'm gonna go with Jonas to get the good. First,
I'm gonna take Baltimore. Lamar Jackson's back.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I think, you know, probably a little motivated because everybody
outed him for playing duck hunt late at night and
sleeping through meetings, and so now he's back, he's ready
to go. Derek Henry put on a show last week,
TJ watch back. We're just hoping he doesn't get stabbed
in they again by a trainer. But nonetheless, I'm gonna
go with the Baltimore Ravens in this spot. I've been
I picked the Ravens to go to a super Bowl.

(37:07):
I'm pot committed at this point. They are not good.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
They'll probably be a one and done in the playoffs.
But I'm gonna go Baltimore on the road. Knocks, locks,
do not.

Speaker 11 (37:16):
Trust me, do not rely on me. All right, I
will get through. I will give VARs out of the
way right now. Can we get a five for five
money line? Baby, let's go.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Bocker wasn't ready for what it is that I wanted
to give to him.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Sticks picks five for five, Brady save us.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
I'm actually on the other side of this one. Steelers
at home, tough place to play. A lot on the
line here. I'm not just gonna take the points. I'm
gonna say the Steelers, Mike Tomlin, Wow, the defense with TJ.
Watt back without the stab lung, they win this thing
out right, keep the money line.

Speaker 7 (37:55):
Steelers wins when.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, right, by the way, the fact that the Commanders
and the Eagles were part of this, because it was
one of the quote unquote better games, Like, I ought
to tell you how bad the slate is this weekend.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
In the end, yeah, I feel like we might venture,
by the way, into an eighteen game schedule at some point.
Who knows how many buys are going to come along
with that. But I don't know, man, Maybe it's a
little bit because we're just in that mix of college
football and I know the games weren't great, but they're
still the excitement around the playoff games are awesome, and
even just the bigger brands playing one another.

Speaker 7 (38:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
It's something about the NFL this year. Maybe it's been
some of the injuries to a quarterback that have played
a role. It just hasn't felt like the same hype
that we've had in past years.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
It is the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 2 (39:06):
It's a Dan Patrick Show here Fox Sports Radio. He's
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Speaker 10 (39:42):
Time to find out what's left Towns Incredible.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Here's the left over us. All right, Patty speaks, what
do we got? All right? For the leftovers?

Speaker 11 (39:52):
We're gonna do what you hinted at earlier here, Jonas,
that's something that will be near and dear to Brady's heart.
It's the Winter cl Lastic everybody, twenty six Yeah, winter Classes.
We have the Stanley Cup champion Florida Panthers hosting the
New York Rangers at Lone Deepot Park in Miami.

Speaker 7 (40:12):
Let's run all that would be the most attendance the
Marlins Park's ever saw.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
I mean, what do we like they still have that
like giant bounce house looking Marlin in the outfield that
kind of circles around and like all that all the
goofy stuff there at that stadium, like they still got
that rocket.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
We always had a good time every time we went
to a Marlins game. I am excited to see, though,
what this looks like. It's humidity not going to be
an issue. Isn't that a concern for the ice?

Speaker 11 (40:41):
They were saying it's winter meat summer as the theme.
Because it's in a tropical Miami. They did what that
ice could get slapped.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
They did Dutch kings out here on the beach years ago.
Like so it's been done outside before. I feel like,
you know, in that controlled.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Environment would make a little bit more. You know, I
just I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
When I think Winter Classic, I think outdoors, I think snow.
I think I think the penguins and the sabers kind
of spoiled it for everybody because you had the snow
and it went to overtime I think, and all that,
and so they've.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Just been doing it every year.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
But you know, I'm seeing the tickets are about three
hundred and seventy dollars. So the lowest ticket to get
into that is three hundred and seventy dollars. That's about
what the Marlins tickets are, right, Brady?

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Why that?

Speaker 7 (41:25):
I mean, it's a great deal to take your family, Sue,
I'll say that much.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
They're very economical for today's professional sports world, or really
any sports world for that matter, It's very easy to
get some access to those games.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
What else we got, Patty.

Speaker 11 (41:39):
So earlier in the last week or so, Trevon Diggs
was actually released by the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Well, you didn't have.

Speaker 11 (41:47):
To find a new home. Didn't take him that long
to get there. He is now the newest Green Bay Packer.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Heyay, there we go. Good, there we go.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Stope a TV TIMS and fall on his head again.
You know, hey, when that happened?

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Is wrong with you just saying like that was the report?
You didn't see change Slater's report.

Speaker 7 (42:04):
I saw the report. I just oh, man, you have problems. Yeah, problems, man.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
I'm just trying to look out for people. That's all
I'm trying to do. Happy New Year everyone, all right, fine,
Happy New Year.
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The Burden

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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.

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