January 2, 2026 • 42 mins
Jonas Knox & Brady Quinn fill in for the Dan Patrick Show as they react to Indiana getting amped up about winning the Rose Bowl and moving on in the playoffs. Plus, the guys talk Ole Miss beating Georgia with Pete Golding leading the charge, and interesting version of ICYMI, and much more!
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Speaker 2 (00:48):
What up? What up? Brady?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Happy New Year? Jonas, Yeah, I'll see you.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
I hope you were able to joy all the games yesterday,
all the fest cities. I know you still worked in
this time slot. However, many many took some time off
just to watch a ball hang with the family and friends.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
That's what we were doing.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
So we actually was at one of the games, so
there was some boots on the ground for the Orange Bowl,
so that was a ton of fun. But I'll start
off by asking this question, how long do you get
to say Happy New Year to someone?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I think it's pretty much it.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
I think you should just say so after today. If
you say happy new to someone, you're a jerky.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Basically, you were the main event of the Happy New Year.
And anybody that says it after you, they're just they're
a fraud. Like it's worn out, it's welcome, we are done.
You just said the last one, and now you got
to move on to twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
So you're not going to say Happy New Year to
LeVar when you see him on Monday.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Oh god, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
of course not. I didn't even say it to my wife. No,
please come on, no, that's not happening. Yeah, it's over.
You were the last one. So anybody that said just
you're put on notice. Anybody that says that the rest
of the day, you are a fraud. You're living a
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lie and you are trying to carry on it.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
It is what I don't make these.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Rules to do this.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I don't make these rules.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
January second and twenty twenty six. And you can't have
more of a rosy attitude. Speaking of Rosie. By the way,
what about that rules?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
How about you? Look at you, mister Segway King, look
at you.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Can I tell you, just because the nuances of football
you've forgotten more than ninety nine percent of the planet.
I'll just say this that there are certain games where
you watch and you don't need to know the nuances.
You don't need to know the fine details. You can
just look at it and it is completely obvious to
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the untrained eye. Indiana is so much better than Alabama.
It's almost shocking. Like I was watching the game going
you know what reminded me of It reminded me of
when SEC teams in the early two thousands or mid
two thousands were playing other teams like that's it like
it's almost like roles reverse, like those old Florida teams
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with Urban Mayer, Like it was like roles reverse to
where you're watching and it looks like two different levels
of football.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I am Look, I'm still shocked.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I still keep thinking that I'm like a sleep and
I'm dreaming and I'm watching a team that I mean,
if you go back to the Big Ten Championship. We
always get these notes before some of these games, and
I believe Indiana was the second most losing program in
college football history, and I keep taking that into account.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I remember, like looking at some of the notes of.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
How Ohio State has like the second most wins something
like that, and the difference between Ohio State and their
program history of wins in Indiana, that difference, I think
a quit were almost equated to the amount of wins
that Indiana has that in school history. So when we
talk about what Kurt Signetti, Fernando Mendoza, the staff, the players,
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everyone involved, when we talk about what they've done, not
only last year, because last year was kind of that
moment where you're like, okay, it feels like that Cinderella story,
you know, where you're dreaming and you're like, are you
gonna wake up?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
As this dream ever gonna good?
Speaker 6 (04:24):
End?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
This year solidified the foundation of what they did last
year and what they're doing this year. To me, it's
the greatest turnaround in sports history, like I can't think
of some people talked about Kansas State.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
This is way beyond that.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
You throw me out a professional sports franchise, that's a
bigger turnaround a team that was largely viewed as a doormat.
I mean, I can't tell you. I visited there back
when I was in high school. A buddy, Adam Cadello,
who's a linebacker, who was looking to go there too,
and we kind of went on the visit and coach
Donardo was there. I loved Coach DeNardo is running a
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West Coast system. But you got there and you looked
at the home stadium, you looked at facilities, and you're like,
this is not.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
A football school. This is a basketball school.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Man Like coming off obviously on Bobby Knight and that
you know growing up watching him when I was young
being a basketball player.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I can't.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I still can't fathom what they've accomplished. And what sticks
out the most to me, Jonas is being at the
Big Ten championship game and big around this team. When
you see them up close, you know they don't It
looks like David and Goliath, Like I know that reference.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Gets thrown around a bunch.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
But when you look at the sheer size of the
players on Indiana versus the Ohio States, the Alabama's the
name you're in Oregon, for example, who they beat earlier
this season. When you look at them on the field
versus one another, you're going, yeah, I don't think they're
going to match up, but they overcome that with the
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way they play as a team. They seldom, if ever
make mistakes. They're one of the best technical teams you
will ever find. And I think what stands out to
me the most too, is even when they're putting positions
where they have to win a one on one battle,
they're either winning that one on one matchup, I don't
care if it's on the offensive line, at wide receiver,
at dB, or to stalemate. Like they don't really lose,
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Like they just don't do the things that other teams
do that end up losing them football games. And it's
incredible to watch how they time and time again end
up being the more physical team, end up being the
better team.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
And look, I was wrong. I said I thought Bama
could keep it close.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I didn't think they were gonna win necessarily because I
don't think I don't think Bam would even deserve to
be in the playoff for that matter, but that's another conversation.
But just from being down there and seeing those players,
it's incredible when you look at what they up against
every week. And it'll be that way again as they
have a rematch now versus Oregon again, they will be
outmatched by as far as the the eye test, you know,
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looking at both teams on the field before the game.
But they have constantly overachieved and this is a damn
good football team.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
The hit on ty Simpson where he was scrambling, which
was kind of a key moment in the game because
he was gonna pick up a first down. I think
it was ten to nothing at that point, and it
was like, all right, if they could get down and
get a score. You know, they get it to one
score and then you know there's some you know, they
start to feel good about things, and he just gets
lit and fumbles the ball and you just see the
look on his face and it looked like, all that's
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just a different level, Like they're playing Indiana's playing at
a different level than we've seen before, and it should
I just come away from that, yeah, really impressed, but shocked.
To see Alabama. I think the stat was it's the
first time Alabama's been held without a touchdown in a
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bowl game since nineteen sixty. I mean, they got clowned
that wasn't closed yesterday and Indiana just did whatever they
wanted to, just whatever they wanted to all game one,
totally exposed them.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It was really really impressive.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
And look, you know, I think we can be critical
of some of Alabama. For example, I think on a
fourth and one, they're running like a jet sweep. It's like, dude,
you're Alabama, Like you can't run the football like downhill
versus a team that you've got a i mean decisive
size advantage over on both sides of the ball. I mean,
I do feel like Ryan Grubb just gets too cute
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sometimes with some of the things he does. And it
again credit to Indiana, you know, defensively, and we've talked
about this before and obviously Levar's not here today working
with us, but they do something that's like somewhat unique.
You don't hear you know, usually pre snap, a lot
of defensive players are assigned to a gap. They allowed
their defensive front to basically penetrate, you know, get upfield
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penetrate and they allow the backers to fit off of that,
and there's elements of that that take place on every level.
But when you watch them, it's so fluid. They never
feel like they're out of position, they never feel like
they're out of a gap, and they just work together.
They do all those little things that like you hear
in your top And again, credit to Kurt Signetti and
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credit to the staff. You know, his staff has been
with him for such a long period of time that
it just it feels like they have a sense in
every phase of how they want to play the game together.
Like the offense, defense especially is all working in unison.
And then they have a quarterback who you know, is
as efficient, is as accurate, is as tough and gritty
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at times. I mean, Fernando Mendoz is not one of
the better athletes that's gonna be on the field, but
he finds a way to use his legs to extend
plays when something is not there. He finds a way
of you know, not creating a disaster of a play.
He gets upfield, he gets what he can it's positive
yardage or back to the line of scrimmage. You know,
he throws the football away. I just the entire group
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is so impressive. And you know, of all the teams
that you look at and say, well, everyone else, you
know they got to buy couldn't figure it out in
that quarterfinal round.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Not the case for Indiana.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Like they're taking every narrative and they're throwing it out
the window.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
And I think the spin off of this conversation is
they're doing this at Indiana. This isn't a blue blood
like this is a.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Program that again has been a doormat in college football
with a few exceptions throughout its history besides the past
two years since Kurt Signetty got there, and they've turned
it around to this and we can look at other examples.
We can look at Vanderbilt right like we can start saying, hey,
there's as much parity in college football as ever because
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of the transfer portal, and now that's the level of
the playing field because of NIL and how some institutions
and some programs have been able to benefit from that
and helping to create more Perry and their roster and
some of their top line players.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
That's part of it too. What it puts a lot of.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Other coaches on notice, like if those if those programs
have the money to.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Buy out those coaches, he'll do it.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Yeah, And those guys are feeling that they're feel like
they're on the hot seat right now. And the programs
that aren't buying those coaches out, probably because they don't
have the money.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
That's a tough spot to be in.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
But Indiana doing what they've done to me, I don't
know if you agree with this, but I think it's
the greatest turnaround in sports, like, not just college football,
in sports. With what they've been able to do thus far.
And if they if they wouldn't all it only adds
to it. But even just getting to this point, it's
incredible now.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Kurt Signetti afterwards was on with Rees Davis on the
stage after the Rose Bowl and uh, you know, was
asked about the movie Hoos Yours, but he made sure
to let people know there's a rallying cry there in Bloomington.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Who would start Urt Signetti in the movie.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
I don't know about that one, but there'd been a
lot there, a big cast of characters.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Because it's all about people.
Speaker 8 (12:02):
You gotta have the right people on your staff, the
right guys in the locker room. And we've been very
fortunate and these.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Guys buy in.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
They all think alike, they play like we want them
to play. There's been a lot of first It is
kind of surreal. There's no doubt about it. I understand
why there's been a lot of skeptics. But I only
have one thing to say.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Perfectly said, perfect gratulations.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Champ Man. I'm telling and I don't say this much.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
I was obviously down with the Orange Bowl yesterday and
there before the Oregon Texas Tech game, and there was
Indiana fans there, like the people who dressed up New
Year's that are celebrating it in South Florida and just
wanted to come to the game. And I guess they're
just waiting to keep moving along with Indiana as they
go through the playoff. But they have a fan base
that is crazy about what this team is accomplished. And
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there's that saying like, act like you've been there before. Well, look,
let's get of Indiana fans. Uh, you know, a little
room for air here, because yeah, like this is a first.
They've never been here before, so they don't know how
to act about it. So I'm okay with them while
I'm out right now. When you see those Inana fans
who are excited about what their team's done.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Look, I know it's it's way too early to start
talking dynasties and all that stuff with an end they
haven't won one yet, But I'm just saying in the
sense of, because you pointed out, you know, we're getting
to like they've never done anything close to this before,
Like when we grew up, you know, the Jordan Bulls.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
You know, that was like the team, like everybody.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Loved the Jordan Bulls, but there was a long time
before that where they were awful like they were, and
so it's hard to imagine in the moment like oh
really the but you we were sort of there in
the embryotic stages of them developing into this great team
and and and all of a sudden, the history of
the team completely changed, and it almost feels like we're
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getting to live in the moment of the beginning stages
of maybe another powerhouse. And it's kind of cool to
watch because, yeah, the history of it, they've been so
bad for like the worst, so bad for so long,
and yet here they are and it's two years in
a row and they're dominating great programs like Alabama. I
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think It's a cool opportunity to see something from the
beginning stages because look, there's a lot of you know,
and you mentioned and I've talked about this before when
you walk through the you know, the Boston it was
at Logan Airport in Boston. They've got all the championship
flags there.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You're in laws.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
But there was a long time before the Patriots went
on that dynasty.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
They were terrible, terrible, Like a lot of Patriots fans
remember that.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And there's you know, a group of Patriots fans now
that look around and go all I know for the
most part is success, and they're back and potentially going
to make a deep run and maybe have the MVP of.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
The league this year.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I think Indiana is in the beginning stages of all this,
and I think it's really cool to watch because we'll
be able to if this goes the way that it's
gone the first two years with Signetti, we'll be able
to tell people years down the road, Oh, you guys
have no idea what this was like beforehand, Like enjoy it. Yeah,
they're popping up left and right. Maybe there's some in
CTI fans that are that are jumping around and saying,
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you know, bringing out all their old Indiana stuff. But
I just think it illustrates how desolate things were there
for Indiana for so long, to where yeah it was
a basketball school and Kurt Signetti's got him rolling. Man,
it's fine.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Well, and that's where even like, because I was talking
with my in laws about this, because I said, you know,
even before the Patriots went on the round with the Belichick,
like they'd been to a super Bowl with Parcels and
what Tony Easton at quarterback, you know, they experienced like
some level of getting to the championship before, like really
the greatness occurred there.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
There's nothing like this, No, like there's been nothing.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
I mean, Tom Allen had a nine to ten one
year whatever it was or somewhere in that ballpark where
he was competitive in Indiana, and hell it might have
been that shit in a COVID year now that I
think about it, when Michael Pennix was there and they
kind of competed.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Within the Big ten.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
But they've never really been able to replicate anything of
what they have done these past two years. It's why
I keep kind of going back to I can't think
of another really program that has struggled to the degree
that Indiana has and has now done this. And I think,
look again, we're only at the semi final portion of
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the of the playoff or the tournament. But the hard
thing is they're gonna have to start over again at quarterback.
Now his brother, Fernando's.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Brother Alberto I believe is his first name. He's there's
the backup.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
So I would assume that might be a guy that
looking at or maybe Signetti wants to go back to
the portal again because they've they've kind of lived off
of two things, and that's some of the players he
brought from James Madison with him, but also from portal
plays that he's you know, has transferred in very similar
to Fernanda Mendoza coming from cal So, you know, in
one way, that's one of the things that's allowed them
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to be able to go on this run and build
the roster the way they have, and the other, you know,
part of that is there's gonna be times where you miss.
And so that's why when you talk about even mentioning dynasty,
like dude, this is so hard to do, and especially
the way they have done it in some ways early
on because there's so much roster turnover, and there will
be like, this is a team that has players are
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gonna get drafted, Like there will be the most players
from this roster drafted.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
In Indiana history. And I don't know that it's gonna
be close.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
So replacing Mendoza, replacing some of these players, you're going
to lose, and then trying to come back and do
it again. That's the tough part. But it feels like
Signetti has And when you talk to his staff and
you talk to like what would be the equivalent of
their front office folks in their scouting department, you know
those guys say, you know, he sits down with all
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these players and he's very, very diligent with how he
does film and always cut ups and different things he does.
He's like, so he sees the player, he knows the
player what they're capable of. But the secret is he
talks to them and he interviews them, and from that
singular meeting, when they walk out of the room their.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Scouting department, he'll kind of give a nod of yes
or no.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
And to the point of what he said postgame about
all these guys buying in, all these guys are on
the same page, there is some conversation that occurs, and
whatever is said back to him, he's able to discern whether.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Or not that person is the right fit.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
And I think that's one of the biggest things that
stands out to me about just what they've accomplished is, Dude,
it's a bunch of I don't want to say castaways
or misfits as they've described.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Themselves, but I look at a guy like Pat Coogan.
He was at Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
He was there somewhat in a backup role, but then
he got thrust it into a starting role.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Was phenomenal at Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
But he's not there anymore, in part because he wasn't
going to start this upcoming season, so he transfers to
Indiana and now he's a part of the team that's
playing in the semi final, potentially for a national championship.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
And you look at like a player like that, for.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Example, he obviously has a certain makeup of a certain
building and a huge chip on his shoulder. And I
think that's what Kurt Signetti has really found in a
lot of these players is at one point they were
told they weren't big enough. They weren't fast enough, they
weren't good enough, they weren't smart enough, and he's found
an edge and he's found a way to use them
in the right way where they fit. And I think
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it's a lesson for like dude life or like a
lot of people maybe might be listening who are in
a job that they're not they don't feel appreciated in,
or theyn't feel like they're maximized in. Like man, you
can be passionate as you want about something, but you
also have to be in the right place and the
right fit for what that place is looking for. And
that's one where Indiana's like the case study for that
right now, because it feels like every single person that
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walks in that program and he brings on his team
and he decides to coach and develop, it just seems
like the right fit and they're fit for one another.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
If you go to Sports Reference and you just look
up Indiana, just look up the school history. God, they've
had some bad years. Whoa like these and you pointed
this out. It's the first time. The first time they
ever won double digit games in the season was last year.
Like just it's crazy in the history of the program,
and it's not like they just got here, you know,
twenty minutes ago, or it's Yukon. It's been around football
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for a long time. One hundred in the stadium. Stadium
looks like one hundred and twenty seven years of Indiana
football and we're finally here, so so good for them.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
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Speaker 3 (20:22):
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field in the second half of that game.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
That was really what he was making plays the entire game.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
I mean, there was a back to back series of
scrambles that were as good as I've.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Seen this entire season in college football.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Like his little kind of backing out of the pockets,
scrambling back is deep as his own territory and just
flipping it out to the flat and that was followed
by a very similar move with a big completion downfield,
although it ended in a bit of an injury.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
But you know, he's he to me and been watching
him this year.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
I wasn't sure based on how all miss started the season,
you know, if he would be able to kind of
take over and beat the guy. He has been everything
as advertised, and I.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Think, look the win.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
It's a huge moment for Pete Golding, who helped take
over this team and stabilize it. It's a credit to
the coaches who came back and wanted to coach because
clearly there's a riff there and you know they had
to plead with Lane Kiffin to do so. But it's
also kind of a sad moment where you think about
the fact that that's one of the This is a
team that's overcome so many distractions to be able to
(25:06):
make it to this point potentially not even play for
a national championship, and their head coaches has moved on
and I'm not here to, like, you know, cast blame
on Lane Kiff and everything else. I think it's a
greater issue of the college football calendar that Dan Lanning
actually drew a lot of attention to in his press
conference before the Orange Bowl and saying like, this whole
(25:27):
schedule needs.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
To be revamped.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
You know, even if we able to move up the
regular season to week zero, the fact that we have
a coach who's moved on their team now is playing
the semi final is an example of like, we shouldn't
have to be doing that. The portal window opens today,
there's still four teams playing for a national championship, and
there's players on those teams who know they may not
(25:50):
be playing next year in their current position and have
to make a decision at some point here soon whether
or not they're going to transfer. That's putting them in
a terrible position. That's putting coach who are coaching right
now at Old Miss, And there's some uncertainty of whether
or not some of those assistant coaches who have been
with Old Miss but are going to be eventually at
LSU are going to even continue to coach. Yeah, as
(26:12):
this thing draws even closer. So it just the entire
thing is a bit of a mess. And as much
as it's amazing to see what Old Miss has done,
it also kind of highlights a little bit of the
issues that we're facing college football.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
So this from ESPN.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
With the portal opening obviously today, the Rebels aren't certain
that they will have all of those assistants that have
helped them and helped them last night in the Sugar Bowl.
They're not sure if they'll have all those assistants with
the team when they play the Hurricanes in six days.
A source said some of the assistants have apparently pushed
back on leaving an Ole Miss team that is two
(26:48):
victories away from winning a national championship. Quote, there are
going to be some fireworks. An Ole Miss source told ESPN.
We always knew this might be a possibility. So, I mean,
how could you leave? And if you're Lane Kiffin, what
you're getting paid, dude, Like he's getting his he's getting
his share, But I get it, he's got to look
for lookout for the betterment of his future at LSU.
(27:12):
It just it feels like this was maybe the worst,
other than the financial aspect, the worst outcome for LSU
and Lane Kiffin because.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Now, well, you look like you look like kind of
an a hole.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
If you tell those guys they got to come back
after what's gone on and these kids getting this close
to potentially winning a national championship.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
I'll be honest with you, I don't really care about
the scenario for LSU and Lane Kiffin, like he made
his decision, he chose to leave, Like my, my, you know,
concern is more for All Miss if they can kind
of keep this thing going and hopefully those assistant coaches
who are there. And I don't just say this, Charlie
Weisse Junior, who I've known since he was a young
young boy, I'm just so impressed with what he's grown
(28:00):
into as a coach, the way he took on one
of the top defensive minds in Kirby Smart and his staff,
and the job he did the entire game, it felt
like Ole Miss was moving the football. They had this
flowed to it and a rhythm to their offense, and
there were always one step ahead that you don't see
that very often versus Georgia defense or a Kirby Smart
coach team. And this was a scenario where I'm watching
(28:22):
it going, dude, this is this is like a masterclass
right now at times. And meanwhile Georgia and Mike Boba,
it's like they couldn't find anything, anything that they could
kind of hang their hat on with consistency, and I
don't know if you want to say, you know, Crediga
and Pete Golding the defense the job they did too
in that respect, but it felt like Gunnar Stockton was
(28:42):
a bit off. He never felt overly didn't seem like
he was overly comfortable. He had to scramble, run around,
make a bunch of plays. I mean, he took some
shots in this game. But this was not the Georgia
team I thought we were going to see. But also
this is this has been a little bit of a
bip of a lot of the narrative around the SEC.
(29:03):
The SEC has kind of pushed up the team that
they thought was their best team and had the best
chance because if you really looked at old Missus resume
getting into the playoff, they he played four teams with
a winning record this season.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
It wasn't like they.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Went through murderers row and they yet were still in
as a sixth seed and obviously had a layup in
their first round game. But this was more of a
true proven moment and so congrats to the players and coaches.
I hope they stay on. I hope someone talks sense
in the lane Kiff, and he just says, look, man,
I'm not making these guys come back. We can we
can recruit, we can do what we need to do,
(29:37):
you know, and have those guys be afar through the
transfer portal, you know, during this period of you know,
this time of year, Like we don't need them to
be back yet. They can go finish the job they're doing.
And if they win a national championship, so be it.
Like they'll bring that with them when they come to LSU,
that that experience and that on the resume.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Pete Golding, the ole Miss coach, spoke afterwards about the
wild month that it's been for the program.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
Code you called this last month a roller coaster.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Yeah, how did your team and you overcome all of
this to become Sugar Bowl champions?
Speaker 9 (30:08):
I mean, I think we got a great group of
people in our building. I think it starts with our
administration with Glenn Boyce and you know, our athlete Direth
the Keith Carter, and we got a lot of good
coaches in that building, you know, and a lot of
guys are going through a lot of things, but they've
been here for the kids the whole time.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Then that's a special group of kids.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
That Cajun came out there. You know, he felt the
old stomping grounds, he felt the old the old Cajun
accident came out there.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
But it was pretty cool to see his son.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Did you see how fired up his son was coming
out with him like free game like a son looked
like it was jacked, ready to light somebody up. I
think I think it's an awesome storyline. It's it's kind
of why. I think there was probably a lot of
people rooting for this to happen, just to see how
this goes. The way Lane Kiffin left I think didn't
sit right with a lot of people the way the
whole thing played out. And so I guess the report
(30:52):
is Charlie Weist Junior is going to stay on, but
they're not sure about the other assistants. Just let him stay, dude, Like,
let him finish this thing out. If it goes one game,
two more games, you're almost.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
At the end. Uh.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
It would be a really fun story to add on
to the crazy, crazy circumstances that led to them in
this spot to begin with, Like it feels like a.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
I know the line was that you know six and
a half, I'm not sure, if anyone could ever you know,
had if they had you know, that number and anything,
I don't even want to talk about. But the way
that game finished, I mean, someone someone's on the on
the wrong side of that finish, that bad beat. Pete
Prisco is siding with someone on that one. That's unbelievable. Yeah,
(31:37):
can they what was going on there?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Like nobody could figure out whether or not, like the
game was actually over, It wasn't over. And then they
do a you know, a free on side kick and
Oleness doesn't touch it, so it's recovered and and and
it gives Georgia another chance. If Georgia would have won
that game, which you know, based on the play you
know they chosen that spot wasn't gonna happen. But if
they would have won that game, and that's the all
(32:01):
time classic gag job that we've seen, all time classic.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
But well, just the fact them down ten and the
fourth with nine minutes left to come back, you know,
made it more at least entertainning. I mean, that was
the That was the game that I think we all
kind of needed after watching the games earlier.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
In the day that were just not competitive by any means.
I mean, it was.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
It was, it was tough to watch, and look, I
think it even draws more attention to the involvement of
the group of six teams.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
And hey, look at James Madison.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Look what they did in Oregon's you know, home stadium,
you know, versus that defense. You know, that was a
even though it wasn't a tight game in the first half,
at least there was a bit more production, you know too,
and you saw more scoring in the second half. So
there's a lot of conversations to be had. I think
big picture that the toughest thing for me is and
just kind of goes back to, you know, just looking
(32:51):
at the resumes of some of the teams, is we now,
for the third straight year have two teams from the
Big Ten who are playing the semi finals. We're gonna
have a third straight year of the Big Ten guaranteed
to have a team in it playing for the national championship.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
And I just think the.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Narratives surrounding the SEC, which got five teams in, it's
got to change at some point where people stop realizing
that outside of a couple of teams, and then, by
the way, this goes for the Big Ten two but
outside of a handful of teams, like everyone else is
pretty much the same, like it just they are and
(33:30):
us acting like going through the eight game conference schedule
the SEC goes through is such a gauntlet. It's not
any more of a gauntlet than the nine games that
the Big Ten goes through. And we're seeing that in
real time. It's a more physical brand of football. They're
better defenses in the Big Ten. You know, one of
the things that's kind of flown under the radar is
(33:52):
obviously the running clock as you compare you know, the
point totals and production. Like a lot of people made
this comment about the Heisman Trophy ceremony and well, like,
look at these guys. None of these guys are putting
up the stats that we used to have. Well, the
clock is run different now too. You know, you've got
a running clock in more scenarios that's closer to the
NFL style. So the games are tighter and in tighter games,
(34:12):
less possessions, With less possessions, less opportunities to score. And
obviously teams aren't playing with the quarterback communication as fast
as they once were, where they're just signaling it in
and playing at warp speed. They'll still do tempo every
once in a while, but it's not as fast, so
you get lower scoring, tighter games, which kind of has
been Big Ten football. But now with the parody of
(34:32):
the transfer portal and then I own everything else, you're
just you're seeing a transition from what was the SEC,
as you pointed out, to more of the Big Ten.
You know, that's that's what's where we're at now, Like
that conference is kind of leading the way, and especially
if they win a third straight national championship, there should
be more of a conversation.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
About some of those at large bids.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
And I would even say this, like, hopefully after this
year there's more of a conference about expansion and going
to sixteen teams, so we don't have to have a
conversation about, hey, these teams off buys can't score.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
I mean, obviously Indiana's the only one that's been able
to prove that wrong.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
But you know, that's another narrative that's out there that
will be a large piece of discussion in the offseason. Now.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
As somebody who worked in SEC country, and I loved it.
It made me appreciate and love college football even more.
I do kind of like the idea of SEC Ball
washers kicking and screaming while being pulled to reality that hey,
(35:37):
it's changed, man, It's no longer the dominant conference that
once was no longer.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
You no longer have this.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Significant lead over anybody else, if any lead at all.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Like things have changed.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
And I just like the idea of the defiance and
the unwillingness to just recognize that it's no longer your
sport and everybody else is just a part of it.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Things have changed in college football.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
I kind of like that. I kind of like it.
It's fine, it's only it's only going to get better.
I mean, think about Matt Canwbill taking over at Penn State.
Think about Pat Fitzeral taking over in Michigan State. You know,
you add ship Kelly to to David Bron's team in Northwestern,
like everyone wants to be old Northwestern Bro.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Go back and look how competitive they are in some
of those games.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Like that's a team that I mean, they may need
a few playmakers, but they're not as far off either.
And again, people can laugh at that all they want.
They probably don't watch the film. They probably haven't watched
some of these teams and how they play. I mean,
they gave Michigan all they could handle this year. And
you just watch Michigan in Texas, right, the nine to
three team that that should have gotten in, right, that
(36:40):
just barely beat You know, Michigan Arch played great, but
you know, watching that game or going well Michigan had
had struggled versus Northwestern, I wonder what Northwestern Texas would
look like. I mean, again, there's more parody in college
football than we'd like to admit.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
And that's the bottom line. That's good I think we've seen,
which is great. It's great for the sport.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
But the hard part is when you get to these
the tournament format, it then leads to these narratives around
well Texas Tech didn't deserve to be there.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
It's like, yes, they did, all right, they were dominant
this year. They rolled out the ball.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
And had one of the worst games of the season,
and that happens. You know, Alabama clearly didn't play up
to their standards, but that was also a team that
was probably on a down held trajectory. We watched in
the SEC championship game, we watched them struggle to beat Auburn.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
I mean, the signs were there.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Unfortunately the committee and then again, this is our conversation
for another segment, but the committee just didn't want to
see it, and again in part because we're a bit
blinded by the past and the history and no different
than me being wrong about Hey, take the points in
Bama like they can keep this close. I mean every
like looking at that line going man Bama like they're
a touchdown or more underdog, Like there's no way. But
(37:51):
that's part of even my own you know, bias and
looking at history and tradition and seeing these teams up
close on the field and all that and not, you know,
instead looking at what I've watched on table.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
You're with Indiana. It's the best team wire to wire
on table here.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I mean, don't be so hard on yourself.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
We've got one hundred and twenty five years of bad
football as evidence. Yeah, I think there was enough there
to go. You know, that's that's way too big of
a line. Yeah, it's just it's just, yeah, there's more parody,
and I think it's I think it's great for the sport.
It's gonna be fun because conversations has got to start
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Speaker 7 (39:41):
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Speaker 10 (39:46):
What up?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Jonah?
Speaker 7 (39:51):
I love doing the fake airhorn nose. This is so good.
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You know, you're great, Brady, You're great, Jonah. Let's go.
Speaker 10 (40:00):
It's in case you missed the time, guys. Well, in
case you did miss it, here, guys, Troy Aikman we
all know and love Troy Aikman on on the broadcast.
You know, former NFL great. Right, Well, he's gonna be
right exactly. Well, he's gonna have a little bit more
on his.
Speaker 7 (40:16):
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Speaker 10 (40:17):
He's going to advise the Miami Dolphins on their GM search.
He's been brought aboard as a consultant. Everybody. It's not permanent,
but he's helping them find their next Dolphins general manager. Apparently,
apparently the Cowboys don't need his help.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
They got everything covers. You know, we got it. We
got it too.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
I do wonder how this sits with old Jerry Jones.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
About it like that out of take because Troike whuls
been very openly critical of Jerry Jones, especially in the
last couple of years.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Well, the other part of this conversation is, you know,
you've got a former Dallas Cowboy great, a Pro Football
Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Well not you know when Dane Know. I was just
with Dan yesterday.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
You know, I'm sure he would be glad to help
out the organization that regard now, I would say maybe
because of what Troy is doing now being in the
broadcast booth. And people can take issue with this whether
or not they want. But when you are on TV,
when you're in the broadcast booth, you tend to run
into a lot more people who are probably suited for
that job, and you talk to a lot of different organizations.
(41:22):
You talk to the ownership groups, the front office people,
you know, agetting, the coaching staffs, players, You've got a
feel for all of it. So, you know, bringing him
on in a sense and getting his perspective on all
of it, it's probably wise. It's just interesting to me
that you know again, and I don't know what that
group looks like that's helping them make this decision. But
you know, there's a lot of great Miami Dolphins players,
(41:44):
you know, players or former players that are down there
that could probably help out.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
I mean that more.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
He's a guy who serves on the Orange Bowl committee
with me. He's another one. Now I'm sure would love
to be involved in that process.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
I mean, Jay Fiedler, Cleo Lemon, like, all right now,
now you're just sorry rosen Fels.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Wasn't Sage rosen Fels? I mean, come on, Sage was
down there.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
Sage was down there did the old time greatest, uh,
you know, finding a way to get released to get
another team. That's story. But do you have time to
tell me?
Speaker 4 (42:13):
You don't have more?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
We get the bring well enough time?
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Else we got man?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
All right?
Speaker 7 (42:16):
So what else we got? Well, Lamar Jackson is back.
Speaker 10 (42:19):
He's actually gone on to say, yeah, one hundred, I'm
gonna be out there. And he even told people I
never quit on my team. He didn't know where that
noise came from. And when asked if he fell asleep
in meetings, do you think Harbaugh would let me do that?
Speaker 2 (42:32):
That's what happened.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
I mean, Jonas here the most critical.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
What's your comment, what's he gonna say?
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah, I dozed off for a few minutes, Yeah yeah,
so what of course he's gonna push back on it.
I just don't believe a story without much detail just
came up out of thin air, all right, So I
do think there's some validity there. What do you think
about that? Our two next
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Speaker 2 (00:48):
What up? What up? Brady?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Happy New Year? Jonas, Yeah, I'll see you.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
I hope you were able to joy all the games yesterday,
all the fest cities. I know you still worked in
this time slot. However, many many took some time off
just to watch a ball hang with the family and friends.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
That's what we were doing.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
So we actually was at one of the games, so
there was some boots on the ground for the Orange Bowl,
so that was a ton of fun. But I'll start
off by asking this question, how long do you get
to say Happy New Year to someone?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I think it's pretty much it.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
I think you should just say so after today. If
you say happy new to someone, you're a jerky.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Basically, you were the main event of the Happy New Year.
And anybody that says it after you, they're just they're
a fraud. Like it's worn out, it's welcome, we are done.
You just said the last one, and now you got
to move on to twenty twenty six.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
So you're not going to say Happy New Year to
LeVar when you see him on Monday.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Oh god, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
of course not. I didn't even say it to my wife. No,
please come on, no, that's not happening. Yeah, it's over.
You were the last one. So anybody that said just
you're put on notice. Anybody that says that the rest
of the day, you are a fraud. You're living a
(02:07):
lie and you are trying to carry on it.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
It is what I don't make these.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Rules to do this.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I don't make these rules.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
January second and twenty twenty six. And you can't have
more of a rosy attitude. Speaking of Rosie. By the way,
what about that rules?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
How about you? Look at you, mister Segway King, look
at you.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Can I tell you, just because the nuances of football
you've forgotten more than ninety nine percent of the planet.
I'll just say this that there are certain games where
you watch and you don't need to know the nuances.
You don't need to know the fine details. You can
just look at it and it is completely obvious to
(02:49):
the untrained eye. Indiana is so much better than Alabama.
It's almost shocking. Like I was watching the game going
you know what reminded me of It reminded me of
when SEC teams in the early two thousands or mid
two thousands were playing other teams like that's it like
it's almost like roles reverse, like those old Florida teams
(03:12):
with Urban Mayer, Like it was like roles reverse to
where you're watching and it looks like two different levels
of football.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
I am Look, I'm still shocked.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I still keep thinking that I'm like a sleep and
I'm dreaming and I'm watching a team that I mean,
if you go back to the Big Ten Championship. We
always get these notes before some of these games, and
I believe Indiana was the second most losing program in
college football history, and I keep taking that into account.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
I remember, like looking at some of the notes of.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
How Ohio State has like the second most wins something
like that, and the difference between Ohio State and their
program history of wins in Indiana, that difference, I think
a quit were almost equated to the amount of wins
that Indiana has that in school history. So when we
talk about what Kurt Signetti, Fernando Mendoza, the staff, the players,
(04:12):
everyone involved, when we talk about what they've done, not
only last year, because last year was kind of that
moment where you're like, okay, it feels like that Cinderella story,
you know, where you're dreaming and you're like, are you
gonna wake up?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
As this dream ever gonna good?
Speaker 6 (04:24):
End?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
This year solidified the foundation of what they did last
year and what they're doing this year. To me, it's
the greatest turnaround in sports history, like I can't think
of some people talked about Kansas State.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
This is way beyond that.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
You throw me out a professional sports franchise, that's a
bigger turnaround a team that was largely viewed as a doormat.
I mean, I can't tell you. I visited there back
when I was in high school. A buddy, Adam Cadello,
who's a linebacker, who was looking to go there too,
and we kind of went on the visit and coach
Donardo was there. I loved Coach DeNardo is running a
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West Coast system. But you got there and you looked
at the home stadium, you looked at facilities, and you're like,
this is not.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
A football school. This is a basketball school.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Man Like coming off obviously on Bobby Knight and that
you know growing up watching him when I was young
being a basketball player.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I can't.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I still can't fathom what they've accomplished. And what sticks
out the most to me, Jonas is being at the
Big Ten championship game and big around this team. When
you see them up close, you know they don't It
looks like David and Goliath, Like I know that reference.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Gets thrown around a bunch.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
But when you look at the sheer size of the
players on Indiana versus the Ohio States, the Alabama's the
name you're in Oregon, for example, who they beat earlier
this season. When you look at them on the field
versus one another, you're going, yeah, I don't think they're
going to match up, but they overcome that with the
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way they play as a team. They seldom, if ever
make mistakes. They're one of the best technical teams you
will ever find. And I think what stands out to
me the most too, is even when they're putting positions
where they have to win a one on one battle,
they're either winning that one on one matchup, I don't
care if it's on the offensive line, at wide receiver,
at dB, or to stalemate. Like they don't really lose,
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Like they just don't do the things that other teams
do that end up losing them football games. And it's
incredible to watch how they time and time again end
up being the more physical team, end up being the
better team.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
And look, I was wrong. I said I thought Bama
could keep it close.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I didn't think they were gonna win necessarily because I
don't think I don't think Bam would even deserve to
be in the playoff for that matter, but that's another conversation.
But just from being down there and seeing those players,
it's incredible when you look at what they up against
every week. And it'll be that way again as they
have a rematch now versus Oregon again, they will be
outmatched by as far as the the eye test, you know,
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looking at both teams on the field before the game.
But they have constantly overachieved and this is a damn
good football team.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
The hit on ty Simpson where he was scrambling, which
was kind of a key moment in the game because
he was gonna pick up a first down. I think
it was ten to nothing at that point, and it
was like, all right, if they could get down and
get a score. You know, they get it to one
score and then you know there's some you know, they
start to feel good about things, and he just gets
lit and fumbles the ball and you just see the
look on his face and it looked like, all that's
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just a different level, Like they're playing Indiana's playing at
a different level than we've seen before, and it should
I just come away from that, yeah, really impressed, but shocked.
To see Alabama. I think the stat was it's the
first time Alabama's been held without a touchdown in a
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bowl game since nineteen sixty. I mean, they got clowned
that wasn't closed yesterday and Indiana just did whatever they
wanted to, just whatever they wanted to all game one,
totally exposed them.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It was really really impressive.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
And look, you know, I think we can be critical
of some of Alabama. For example, I think on a
fourth and one, they're running like a jet sweep. It's like, dude,
you're Alabama, Like you can't run the football like downhill
versus a team that you've got a i mean decisive
size advantage over on both sides of the ball. I mean,
I do feel like Ryan Grubb just gets too cute
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sometimes with some of the things he does. And it
again credit to Indiana, you know, defensively, and we've talked
about this before and obviously Levar's not here today working
with us, but they do something that's like somewhat unique.
You don't hear you know, usually pre snap, a lot
of defensive players are assigned to a gap. They allowed
their defensive front to basically penetrate, you know, get upfield
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penetrate and they allow the backers to fit off of that,
and there's elements of that that take place on every level.
But when you watch them, it's so fluid. They never
feel like they're out of position, they never feel like
they're out of a gap, and they just work together.
They do all those little things that like you hear
in your top And again, credit to Kurt Signetti and
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credit to the staff. You know, his staff has been
with him for such a long period of time that
it just it feels like they have a sense in
every phase of how they want to play the game together.
Like the offense, defense especially is all working in unison.
And then they have a quarterback who you know, is
as efficient, is as accurate, is as tough and gritty
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at times. I mean, Fernando Mendoz is not one of
the better athletes that's gonna be on the field, but
he finds a way to use his legs to extend
plays when something is not there. He finds a way
of you know, not creating a disaster of a play.
He gets upfield, he gets what he can it's positive
yardage or back to the line of scrimmage. You know,
he throws the football away. I just the entire group
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is so impressive. And you know, of all the teams
that you look at and say, well, everyone else, you
know they got to buy couldn't figure it out in
that quarterfinal round.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Not the case for Indiana.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Like they're taking every narrative and they're throwing it out
the window.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
And I think the spin off of this conversation is
they're doing this at Indiana. This isn't a blue blood
like this is a.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Program that again has been a doormat in college football
with a few exceptions throughout its history besides the past
two years since Kurt Signetty got there, and they've turned
it around to this and we can look at other examples.
We can look at Vanderbilt right like we can start saying, hey,
there's as much parity in college football as ever because
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of the transfer portal, and now that's the level of
the playing field because of NIL and how some institutions
and some programs have been able to benefit from that
and helping to create more Perry and their roster and
some of their top line players.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
That's part of it too. What it puts a lot of.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Other coaches on notice, like if those if those programs
have the money to.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Buy out those coaches, he'll do it.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Yeah, And those guys are feeling that they're feel like
they're on the hot seat right now. And the programs
that aren't buying those coaches out, probably because they don't
have the money.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
That's a tough spot to be in.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
But Indiana doing what they've done to me, I don't
know if you agree with this, but I think it's
the greatest turnaround in sports, like, not just college football,
in sports. With what they've been able to do thus far.
And if they if they wouldn't all it only adds
to it. But even just getting to this point, it's
incredible now.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Kurt Signetti afterwards was on with Rees Davis on the
stage after the Rose Bowl and uh, you know, was
asked about the movie Hoos Yours, but he made sure
to let people know there's a rallying cry there in Bloomington.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Who would start Urt Signetti in the movie.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
I don't know about that one, but there'd been a
lot there, a big cast of characters.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Because it's all about people.
Speaker 8 (12:02):
You gotta have the right people on your staff, the
right guys in the locker room. And we've been very
fortunate and these.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Guys buy in.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
They all think alike, they play like we want them
to play. There's been a lot of first It is
kind of surreal. There's no doubt about it. I understand
why there's been a lot of skeptics. But I only
have one thing to say.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Perfectly said, perfect gratulations.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Champ Man. I'm telling and I don't say this much.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
I was obviously down with the Orange Bowl yesterday and
there before the Oregon Texas Tech game, and there was
Indiana fans there, like the people who dressed up New
Year's that are celebrating it in South Florida and just
wanted to come to the game. And I guess they're
just waiting to keep moving along with Indiana as they
go through the playoff. But they have a fan base
that is crazy about what this team is accomplished. And
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there's that saying like, act like you've been there before. Well, look,
let's get of Indiana fans. Uh, you know, a little
room for air here, because yeah, like this is a first.
They've never been here before, so they don't know how
to act about it. So I'm okay with them while
I'm out right now. When you see those Inana fans
who are excited about what their team's done.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Look, I know it's it's way too early to start
talking dynasties and all that stuff with an end they
haven't won one yet, But I'm just saying in the
sense of, because you pointed out, you know, we're getting
to like they've never done anything close to this before,
Like when we grew up, you know, the Jordan Bulls.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
You know, that was like the team, like everybody.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Loved the Jordan Bulls, but there was a long time
before that where they were awful like they were, and
so it's hard to imagine in the moment like oh
really the but you we were sort of there in
the embryotic stages of them developing into this great team
and and and all of a sudden, the history of
the team completely changed, and it almost feels like we're
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getting to live in the moment of the beginning stages
of maybe another powerhouse. And it's kind of cool to
watch because, yeah, the history of it, they've been so
bad for like the worst, so bad for so long,
and yet here they are and it's two years in
a row and they're dominating great programs like Alabama. I
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think It's a cool opportunity to see something from the
beginning stages because look, there's a lot of you know,
and you mentioned and I've talked about this before when
you walk through the you know, the Boston it was
at Logan Airport in Boston. They've got all the championship
flags there.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You're in laws.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
But there was a long time before the Patriots went
on that dynasty.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
They were terrible, terrible, Like a lot of Patriots fans
remember that.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And there's you know, a group of Patriots fans now
that look around and go all I know for the
most part is success, and they're back and potentially going
to make a deep run and maybe have the MVP of.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
The league this year.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I think Indiana is in the beginning stages of all this,
and I think it's really cool to watch because we'll
be able to if this goes the way that it's
gone the first two years with Signetti, we'll be able
to tell people years down the road, Oh, you guys
have no idea what this was like beforehand, Like enjoy it. Yeah,
they're popping up left and right. Maybe there's some in
CTI fans that are that are jumping around and saying,
(15:08):
you know, bringing out all their old Indiana stuff. But
I just think it illustrates how desolate things were there
for Indiana for so long, to where yeah it was
a basketball school and Kurt Signetti's got him rolling. Man,
it's fine.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Well, and that's where even like, because I was talking
with my in laws about this, because I said, you know,
even before the Patriots went on the round with the Belichick,
like they'd been to a super Bowl with Parcels and
what Tony Easton at quarterback, you know, they experienced like
some level of getting to the championship before, like really
the greatness occurred there.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
There's nothing like this, No, like there's been nothing.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
I mean, Tom Allen had a nine to ten one
year whatever it was or somewhere in that ballpark where
he was competitive in Indiana, and hell it might have
been that shit in a COVID year now that I
think about it, when Michael Pennix was there and they
kind of competed.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Within the Big ten.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
But they've never really been able to replicate anything of
what they have done these past two years. It's why
I keep kind of going back to I can't think
of another really program that has struggled to the degree
that Indiana has and has now done this. And I think,
look again, we're only at the semi final portion of
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the of the playoff or the tournament. But the hard
thing is they're gonna have to start over again at quarterback.
Now his brother, Fernando's.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Brother Alberto I believe is his first name. He's there's
the backup.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
So I would assume that might be a guy that
looking at or maybe Signetti wants to go back to
the portal again because they've they've kind of lived off
of two things, and that's some of the players he
brought from James Madison with him, but also from portal
plays that he's you know, has transferred in very similar
to Fernanda Mendoza coming from cal So, you know, in
one way, that's one of the things that's allowed them
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to be able to go on this run and build
the roster the way they have, and the other, you know,
part of that is there's gonna be times where you miss.
And so that's why when you talk about even mentioning dynasty,
like dude, this is so hard to do, and especially
the way they have done it in some ways early
on because there's so much roster turnover, and there will
be like, this is a team that has players are
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gonna get drafted, Like there will be the most players
from this roster drafted.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
In Indiana history. And I don't know that it's gonna
be close.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
So replacing Mendoza, replacing some of these players, you're going
to lose, and then trying to come back and do
it again. That's the tough part. But it feels like
Signetti has And when you talk to his staff and
you talk to like what would be the equivalent of
their front office folks in their scouting department, you know
those guys say, you know, he sits down with all
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these players and he's very, very diligent with how he
does film and always cut ups and different things he does.
He's like, so he sees the player, he knows the
player what they're capable of. But the secret is he
talks to them and he interviews them, and from that
singular meeting, when they walk out of the room their.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Scouting department, he'll kind of give a nod of yes
or no.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
And to the point of what he said postgame about
all these guys buying in, all these guys are on
the same page, there is some conversation that occurs, and
whatever is said back to him, he's able to discern whether.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Or not that person is the right fit.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
And I think that's one of the biggest things that
stands out to me about just what they've accomplished is, Dude,
it's a bunch of I don't want to say castaways
or misfits as they've described.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Themselves, but I look at a guy like Pat Coogan.
He was at Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
He was there somewhat in a backup role, but then
he got thrust it into a starting role.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Was phenomenal at Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
But he's not there anymore, in part because he wasn't
going to start this upcoming season, so he transfers to
Indiana and now he's a part of the team that's
playing in the semi final, potentially for a national championship.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
And you look at like a player like that, for.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Example, he obviously has a certain makeup of a certain
building and a huge chip on his shoulder. And I
think that's what Kurt Signetti has really found in a
lot of these players is at one point they were
told they weren't big enough. They weren't fast enough, they
weren't good enough, they weren't smart enough, and he's found
an edge and he's found a way to use them
in the right way where they fit. And I think
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it's a lesson for like dude life or like a
lot of people maybe might be listening who are in
a job that they're not they don't feel appreciated in,
or theyn't feel like they're maximized in. Like man, you
can be passionate as you want about something, but you
also have to be in the right place and the
right fit for what that place is looking for. And
that's one where Indiana's like the case study for that
right now, because it feels like every single person that
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walks in that program and he brings on his team
and he decides to coach and develop, it just seems
like the right fit and they're fit for one another.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
If you go to Sports Reference and you just look
up Indiana, just look up the school history. God, they've
had some bad years. Whoa like these and you pointed
this out. It's the first time. The first time they
ever won double digit games in the season was last year.
Like just it's crazy in the history of the program,
and it's not like they just got here, you know,
twenty minutes ago, or it's Yukon. It's been around football
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for a long time. One hundred in the stadium. Stadium
looks like one hundred and twenty seven years of Indiana
football and we're finally here, so so good for them.
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a little over fifteen minutes from now. Yeah, but that
was another one I didn't expect. Was the Ole miss
doing what they did at the Sugar Bowl last night.
Trinidad Chamliss from Fairs State to the Yeah, he was
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great man, Like was was the best player on the
field in the second half of that game.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
That was really what he was making plays the entire game.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
I mean, there was a back to back series of
scrambles that were as good as I've.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Seen this entire season in college football.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Like his little kind of backing out of the pockets,
scrambling back is deep as his own territory and just
flipping it out to the flat and that was followed
by a very similar move with a big completion downfield,
although it ended in a bit of an injury.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
But you know, he's he to me and been watching
him this year.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
I wasn't sure based on how all miss started the season,
you know, if he would be able to kind of
take over and beat the guy. He has been everything
as advertised, and I.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Think, look the win.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
It's a huge moment for Pete Golding, who helped take
over this team and stabilize it. It's a credit to
the coaches who came back and wanted to coach because
clearly there's a riff there and you know they had
to plead with Lane Kiffin to do so. But it's
also kind of a sad moment where you think about
the fact that that's one of the This is a
team that's overcome so many distractions to be able to
(25:06):
make it to this point potentially not even play for
a national championship, and their head coaches has moved on
and I'm not here to, like, you know, cast blame
on Lane Kiff and everything else. I think it's a
greater issue of the college football calendar that Dan Lanning
actually drew a lot of attention to in his press
conference before the Orange Bowl and saying like, this whole
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schedule needs.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
To be revamped.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
You know, even if we able to move up the
regular season to week zero, the fact that we have
a coach who's moved on their team now is playing
the semi final is an example of like, we shouldn't
have to be doing that. The portal window opens today,
there's still four teams playing for a national championship, and
there's players on those teams who know they may not
(25:50):
be playing next year in their current position and have
to make a decision at some point here soon whether
or not they're going to transfer. That's putting them in
a terrible position. That's putting coach who are coaching right
now at Old Miss, And there's some uncertainty of whether
or not some of those assistant coaches who have been
with Old Miss but are going to be eventually at
LSU are going to even continue to coach. Yeah, as
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this thing draws even closer. So it just the entire
thing is a bit of a mess. And as much
as it's amazing to see what Old Miss has done,
it also kind of highlights a little bit of the
issues that we're facing college football.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
So this from ESPN.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
With the portal opening obviously today, the Rebels aren't certain
that they will have all of those assistants that have
helped them and helped them last night in the Sugar Bowl.
They're not sure if they'll have all those assistants with
the team when they play the Hurricanes in six days.
A source said some of the assistants have apparently pushed
back on leaving an Ole Miss team that is two
(26:48):
victories away from winning a national championship. Quote, there are
going to be some fireworks. An Ole Miss source told ESPN.
We always knew this might be a possibility. So, I mean,
how could you leave? And if you're Lane Kiffin, what
you're getting paid, dude, Like he's getting his he's getting
his share, But I get it, he's got to look
for lookout for the betterment of his future at LSU.
(27:12):
It just it feels like this was maybe the worst,
other than the financial aspect, the worst outcome for LSU
and Lane Kiffin because.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Now, well, you look like you look like kind of
an a hole.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
If you tell those guys they got to come back
after what's gone on and these kids getting this close
to potentially winning a national championship.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
I'll be honest with you, I don't really care about
the scenario for LSU and Lane Kiffin, like he made
his decision, he chose to leave, Like my, my, you know,
concern is more for All Miss if they can kind
of keep this thing going and hopefully those assistant coaches
who are there. And I don't just say this, Charlie
Weisse Junior, who I've known since he was a young
young boy, I'm just so impressed with what he's grown
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into as a coach, the way he took on one
of the top defensive minds in Kirby Smart and his staff,
and the job he did the entire game, it felt
like Ole Miss was moving the football. They had this
flowed to it and a rhythm to their offense, and
there were always one step ahead that you don't see
that very often versus Georgia defense or a Kirby Smart
coach team. And this was a scenario where I'm watching
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it going, dude, this is this is like a masterclass
right now at times. And meanwhile Georgia and Mike Boba,
it's like they couldn't find anything, anything that they could
kind of hang their hat on with consistency, and I
don't know if you want to say, you know, Crediga
and Pete Golding the defense the job they did too
in that respect, but it felt like Gunnar Stockton was
(28:42):
a bit off. He never felt overly didn't seem like
he was overly comfortable. He had to scramble, run around,
make a bunch of plays. I mean, he took some
shots in this game. But this was not the Georgia
team I thought we were going to see. But also
this is this has been a little bit of a
bip of a lot of the narrative around the SEC.
(29:03):
The SEC has kind of pushed up the team that
they thought was their best team and had the best
chance because if you really looked at old Missus resume
getting into the playoff, they he played four teams with
a winning record this season.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
It wasn't like they.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Went through murderers row and they yet were still in
as a sixth seed and obviously had a layup in
their first round game. But this was more of a
true proven moment and so congrats to the players and coaches.
I hope they stay on. I hope someone talks sense
in the lane Kiff, and he just says, look, man,
I'm not making these guys come back. We can we
can recruit, we can do what we need to do,
(29:37):
you know, and have those guys be afar through the
transfer portal, you know, during this period of you know,
this time of year, Like we don't need them to
be back yet. They can go finish the job they're doing.
And if they win a national championship, so be it.
Like they'll bring that with them when they come to LSU,
that that experience and that on the resume.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Pete Golding, the ole Miss coach, spoke afterwards about the
wild month that it's been for the program.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
Code you called this last month a roller coaster.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Yeah, how did your team and you overcome all of
this to become Sugar Bowl champions?
Speaker 9 (30:08):
I mean, I think we got a great group of
people in our building. I think it starts with our
administration with Glenn Boyce and you know, our athlete Direth
the Keith Carter, and we got a lot of good
coaches in that building, you know, and a lot of
guys are going through a lot of things, but they've
been here for the kids the whole time.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Then that's a special group of kids.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
That Cajun came out there. You know, he felt the
old stomping grounds, he felt the old the old Cajun
accident came out there.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
But it was pretty cool to see his son.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Did you see how fired up his son was coming
out with him like free game like a son looked
like it was jacked, ready to light somebody up. I
think I think it's an awesome storyline. It's it's kind
of why. I think there was probably a lot of
people rooting for this to happen, just to see how
this goes. The way Lane Kiffin left I think didn't
sit right with a lot of people the way the
whole thing played out. And so I guess the report
(30:52):
is Charlie Weist Junior is going to stay on, but
they're not sure about the other assistants. Just let him stay, dude, Like,
let him finish this thing out. If it goes one game,
two more games, you're almost.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
At the end. Uh.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
It would be a really fun story to add on
to the crazy, crazy circumstances that led to them in
this spot to begin with, Like it feels like a.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
I know the line was that you know six and
a half, I'm not sure, if anyone could ever you know,
had if they had you know, that number and anything,
I don't even want to talk about. But the way
that game finished, I mean, someone someone's on the on
the wrong side of that finish, that bad beat. Pete
Prisco is siding with someone on that one. That's unbelievable. Yeah,
(31:37):
can they what was going on there?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Like nobody could figure out whether or not, like the
game was actually over, It wasn't over. And then they
do a you know, a free on side kick and
Oleness doesn't touch it, so it's recovered and and and
it gives Georgia another chance. If Georgia would have won
that game, which you know, based on the play you
know they chosen that spot wasn't gonna happen. But if
they would have won that game, and that's the all
(32:01):
time classic gag job that we've seen, all time classic.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
But well, just the fact them down ten and the
fourth with nine minutes left to come back, you know,
made it more at least entertainning. I mean, that was
the That was the game that I think we all
kind of needed after watching the games earlier.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
In the day that were just not competitive by any means.
I mean, it was.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
It was, it was tough to watch, and look, I
think it even draws more attention to the involvement of
the group of six teams.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
And hey, look at James Madison.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Look what they did in Oregon's you know, home stadium,
you know, versus that defense. You know, that was a
even though it wasn't a tight game in the first half,
at least there was a bit more production, you know too,
and you saw more scoring in the second half. So
there's a lot of conversations to be had. I think
big picture that the toughest thing for me is and
just kind of goes back to, you know, just looking
(32:51):
at the resumes of some of the teams, is we now,
for the third straight year have two teams from the
Big Ten who are playing the semi finals. We're gonna
have a third straight year of the Big Ten guaranteed
to have a team in it playing for the national championship.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
And I just think the.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Narratives surrounding the SEC, which got five teams in, it's
got to change at some point where people stop realizing
that outside of a couple of teams, and then, by
the way, this goes for the Big Ten two but
outside of a handful of teams, like everyone else is
pretty much the same, like it just they are and
(33:30):
us acting like going through the eight game conference schedule
the SEC goes through is such a gauntlet. It's not
any more of a gauntlet than the nine games that
the Big Ten goes through. And we're seeing that in
real time. It's a more physical brand of football. They're
better defenses in the Big Ten. You know, one of
the things that's kind of flown under the radar is
(33:52):
obviously the running clock as you compare you know, the
point totals and production. Like a lot of people made
this comment about the Heisman Trophy ceremony and well, like,
look at these guys. None of these guys are putting
up the stats that we used to have. Well, the
clock is run different now too. You know, you've got
a running clock in more scenarios that's closer to the
NFL style. So the games are tighter and in tighter games,
(34:12):
less possessions, With less possessions, less opportunities to score. And
obviously teams aren't playing with the quarterback communication as fast
as they once were, where they're just signaling it in
and playing at warp speed. They'll still do tempo every
once in a while, but it's not as fast, so
you get lower scoring, tighter games, which kind of has
been Big Ten football. But now with the parody of
(34:32):
the transfer portal and then I own everything else, you're
just you're seeing a transition from what was the SEC,
as you pointed out, to more of the Big Ten.
You know, that's that's what's where we're at now, Like
that conference is kind of leading the way, and especially
if they win a third straight national championship, there should
be more of a conversation.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
About some of those at large bids.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
And I would even say this, like, hopefully after this
year there's more of a conference about expansion and going
to sixteen teams, so we don't have to have a
conversation about, hey, these teams off buys can't score.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
I mean, obviously Indiana's the only one that's been able
to prove that wrong.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
But you know, that's another narrative that's out there that
will be a large piece of discussion in the offseason. Now.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
As somebody who worked in SEC country, and I loved it.
It made me appreciate and love college football even more.
I do kind of like the idea of SEC Ball
washers kicking and screaming while being pulled to reality that hey,
(35:37):
it's changed, man, It's no longer the dominant conference that
once was no longer.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
You no longer have this.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Significant lead over anybody else, if any lead at all.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Like things have changed.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
And I just like the idea of the defiance and
the unwillingness to just recognize that it's no longer your
sport and everybody else is just a part of it.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Things have changed in college football.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
I kind of like that. I kind of like it.
It's fine, it's only it's only going to get better.
I mean, think about Matt Canwbill taking over at Penn State.
Think about Pat Fitzeral taking over in Michigan State. You know,
you add ship Kelly to to David Bron's team in Northwestern,
like everyone wants to be old Northwestern Bro.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Go back and look how competitive they are in some
of those games.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Like that's a team that I mean, they may need
a few playmakers, but they're not as far off either.
And again, people can laugh at that all they want.
They probably don't watch the film. They probably haven't watched
some of these teams and how they play. I mean,
they gave Michigan all they could handle this year. And
you just watch Michigan in Texas, right, the nine to
three team that that should have gotten in, right, that
(36:40):
just barely beat You know, Michigan Arch played great, but
you know, watching that game or going well Michigan had
had struggled versus Northwestern, I wonder what Northwestern Texas would
look like. I mean, again, there's more parody in college
football than we'd like to admit.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
And that's the bottom line. That's good I think we've seen,
which is great. It's great for the sport.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
But the hard part is when you get to these
the tournament format, it then leads to these narratives around
well Texas Tech didn't deserve to be there.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
It's like, yes, they did, all right, they were dominant
this year. They rolled out the ball.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
And had one of the worst games of the season,
and that happens. You know, Alabama clearly didn't play up
to their standards, but that was also a team that
was probably on a down held trajectory. We watched in
the SEC championship game, we watched them struggle to beat Auburn.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
I mean, the signs were there.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Unfortunately the committee and then again, this is our conversation
for another segment, but the committee just didn't want to
see it, and again in part because we're a bit
blinded by the past and the history and no different
than me being wrong about Hey, take the points in
Bama like they can keep this close. I mean every
like looking at that line going man Bama like they're
a touchdown or more underdog, Like there's no way. But
(37:51):
that's part of even my own you know, bias and
looking at history and tradition and seeing these teams up
close on the field and all that and not, you know,
instead looking at what I've watched on table.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
You're with Indiana. It's the best team wire to wire
on table here.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I mean, don't be so hard on yourself.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
We've got one hundred and twenty five years of bad
football as evidence. Yeah, I think there was enough there
to go. You know, that's that's way too big of
a line. Yeah, it's just it's just, yeah, there's more parody,
and I think it's I think it's great for the sport.
It's gonna be fun because conversations has got to start
to change. It is The Dan Patrick Show here on
Fox Sports Radio. Brady Quinn Jonas Knox with you in
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Speaker 7 (39:41):
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Speaker 10 (39:46):
What up?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Jonah?
Speaker 7 (39:51):
I love doing the fake airhorn nose. This is so good.
I'm stupid, it's silly, but whatever, it's great. It's great.
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Speaker 10 (40:00):
It's in case you missed the time, guys. Well, in
case you did miss it, here, guys, Troy Aikman we
all know and love Troy Aikman on on the broadcast.
You know, former NFL great. Right, Well, he's gonna be
right exactly. Well, he's gonna have a little bit more
on his.
Speaker 7 (40:16):
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Speaker 10 (40:17):
He's going to advise the Miami Dolphins on their GM search.
He's been brought aboard as a consultant. Everybody. It's not permanent,
but he's helping them find their next Dolphins general manager. Apparently,
apparently the Cowboys don't need his help.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
They got everything covers. You know, we got it. We
got it too.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
I do wonder how this sits with old Jerry Jones.
Speaker 3 (40:41):
About it like that out of take because Troike whuls
been very openly critical of Jerry Jones, especially in the
last couple of years.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Well, the other part of this conversation is, you know,
you've got a former Dallas Cowboy great, a Pro Football
Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Well not you know when Dane Know. I was just
with Dan yesterday.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
You know, I'm sure he would be glad to help
out the organization that regard now, I would say maybe
because of what Troy is doing now being in the
broadcast booth. And people can take issue with this whether
or not they want. But when you are on TV,
when you're in the broadcast booth, you tend to run
into a lot more people who are probably suited for
that job, and you talk to a lot of different organizations.
(41:22):
You talk to the ownership groups, the front office people,
you know, agetting, the coaching staffs, players, You've got a
feel for all of it. So, you know, bringing him
on in a sense and getting his perspective on all
of it, it's probably wise. It's just interesting to me
that you know again, and I don't know what that
group looks like that's helping them make this decision. But
you know, there's a lot of great Miami Dolphins players,
(41:44):
you know, players or former players that are down there
that could probably help out.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
I mean that more.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
He's a guy who serves on the Orange Bowl committee
with me. He's another one. Now I'm sure would love
to be involved in that process.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
I mean, Jay Fiedler, Cleo Lemon, like, all right now,
now you're just sorry rosen Fels.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Wasn't Sage rosen Fels? I mean, come on, Sage was
down there.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
Sage was down there did the old time greatest, uh,
you know, finding a way to get released to get
another team. That's story. But do you have time to
tell me?
Speaker 4 (42:13):
You don't have more?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
We get the bring well enough time?
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Else we got man?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
All right?
Speaker 7 (42:16):
So what else we got? Well, Lamar Jackson is back.
Speaker 10 (42:19):
He's actually gone on to say, yeah, one hundred, I'm
gonna be out there. And he even told people I
never quit on my team. He didn't know where that
noise came from. And when asked if he fell asleep
in meetings, do you think Harbaugh would let me do that?
Speaker 2 (42:32):
That's what happened.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
I mean, Jonas here the most critical.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
What's your comment, what's he gonna say?
Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah, I dozed off for a few minutes, Yeah yeah,
so what of course he's gonna push back on it.
I just don't believe a story without much detail just
came up out of thin air, all right, So I
do think there's some validity there. What do you think
about that? Our two next
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