January 6, 2026 • 41 mins
The Las Vegas Raiders need a new head coach, and they have the first pick in the NFL Draft, so Dan and the Danettes speculate on a possible solution from Indiana U. And NBA legend Reggie Miller drops by to talk some hoops.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Leave it to the Cowboys. They wanted to
have their own day to fire somebody. They have fired
their defensive coordinator, Matt Eberflus. Brian Floores his name will
probably come up. Raheem Morris name will probably come up
as well. But Jonathan Gannon's name, he just got fired
(00:25):
on Monday as well. Maybe you're going to bring in
Denver's assistant head coach. Jim Leonard is a name that
I guess would come up there as well. But the
Dallas Cowboys have fired their defensive coordinator, Matt Eberflus.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Welcome to the program. Already in progress the final hour.
Reggie Miller will stop by more phone calls as well.
Once again, I want to reiterate something that happened about
two hours ago. We had Mike Tannebaum on for the Mothership,
former front office executive for a couple of teams, and
we were taught talking about the openings here and I
(01:02):
asked him to rank the openings worse to first, and
he talked about the Raiders and he said, now this
is just speculation. I can't even say it's just him talking.
And he just put it out there of what about
a package deal with Kurt Signetti at Indiana and Fernando
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Mendoza his quarterback. Now he's saying that if he were
the Raiders, that he would consider that. Why not take
a chance see if he'd be interested in doing that. Which,
once again, if you hear of this on any other
show or you know, on the mother Ship or anybody
talking about this, it started with just Mike Tannenbaum as
(01:46):
if we're just chatting. It wasn't a report. So I
want to make sure I'm fair to Mike that people
aren't saying, hey, I heard or on the Dan Patrick Show,
I heard them say this, Yes, Mike Tannenbaum, and we
just kind of threw it out there. We love to
do these package deals because remember with the Bears, Lincoln
Riley and Caleb Williams. But that was a big deal.
(02:09):
That was a big deal until it was no deal.
Arch Manning, Nick Saban.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Pete, Carroll Mettleiner to go together. No that, what's you say?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
None of that.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
But once again, this is not a report. This is
just him kind of musing on the possibility of maybe
Kurt Signetti makes too much money that the Raiders are
I think paying three coaches now, I think that at
least three head coaches former head coaches at that. But
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this is just Mike saying, hey, I would certainly consider this.
I'd kick the tires on this Signetti makes too much money,
and plus he's got something great here, and you already
got your quarterback to replace Fernando Mendoza. And you know
it should be old speed ahead. We should expect Indiana
to become a football school.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yes, Pauli, the.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Raiders are paying Pete Carroll. Obviously, they're paying offensive coordinator
Chip Kelly six million dollars for next.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Year to not coach millions offense.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Yeah, they the settlement John Gruden is ten million, the
payout to Josh McDaniels is ten and Antonio Pearce is eight.
I'm not a math guy, but that's over fifty million bucks.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
Goodness to not coach.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Yeah, yeah, make them all come back for one year
and then you have a lot of coaches.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Man, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
But you got the first pick in the draft, Like
this feels like you can't screw that up, right.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
I've been sitting on this one. As much as I
love me some Fernando Mendoza. Heights Mendoza. They're not in
position to take a quarterback at this juncture with their
offensive line. Like you said, it's it's a recipe for
disaster because they'll probably art in week one, which would
be the opposite way.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yes, yes, I don't want if you take Fernando Mendoz,
I don't want to start in week one. I've said before,
there's nothing like watching a football game, an NFL game
from the sidelines, whether you're just a fan or you're
actually a player, it's just different. It is a different speed,
and I want I would want that guy to be
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able to kind of ease his way in, not go
out there and turn the franchise around. The reason why
you're being drafted where you're being drafted is your team
isn't any good.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
You're not walking.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's rare when you walk into a team and you
go like Patrick Mahomes walked into a really good team,
a playoff team. It's really really rare when you're doing that.
But we ask these guys to be saviors, and when
you put him in there early, it doesn't it usually
doesn't go well.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, Palling, I'll throw this out there for the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
You guys, let me know what you think. Okay, Raiders
are the first pick, Jets the second. They're probably both
taking quarterbacks. What if the Raiders called the Arizona Cardinals
at three and traded down with them, got a monster
haul and rebuild their franchise from the inside out.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
But are you taking Kyler Murray as well?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
No?
Speaker 5 (05:15):
I don't want any part of that contract.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I just want the pick.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I only have to have him for one year. Yeah,
winning is maybe, and he's in a contract year, but Arizona.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
May overpay for that first pick this year to go
up two spots. And if you don't love Love Mendoza.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I just got to make sure that the people who
are drafting are going to draft the right people. Because,
as the Browns have proven in previous years, previous drafts,
they can have a lot of picks. That doesn't mean
they know what they're doing now. They have since made
some pretty good draft picks. But back you know, Brady Quinn,
you know that didn't work out. Who is the defensive
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back from Oklahoma State?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Gilbert? That will yeah something Gilbert?
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yes, Martin Courtney Brown yeah, second.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Pick Liman yeah, yeah, second pick overall, I believe Justin Gilbert.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Justin Gilbert.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, Yeah, there's certain organizations that you trust, Like I
believe Baltimore usually gets it right. They're one of those
franchises where you go, they took him, Okay, yes, Martin.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
And for example, the Jets, like man Sam darn is
not any good now he's just on the Jets. Yeah,
because he's played well in two different places now.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
But we talked about the most interesting opening with Mike Tannenbaum.
I would say it's the Giants. Now he took the Titans.
But okay, you got cam Ward. What else do you have?
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Now?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Maybe you got a lot of cap room, but like
you need a lot of cap room to fix all
the issues that you have. H But you can say, hey,
I go in there and it's a blank slate. But
how long do you get with a blank slate? Like
two years? Maybe three years?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Yeah, Paul, But maybe a guy like Tannabaum looks at
the Titan says, I have like an open lot to
build a house.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I've got a rookie.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Quarterback who is the last four games are pretty good
for cam Ward and he's on a rookie contract. They
lead the NFL and cap room for the next two
years at one hundred and five million. Gems want to build,
they don't want to inherit issues. I think, well, if.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I, if I could put more padding around Jackson Dart,
you know, like it'd be one of those you know,
those sumo wrestlers when they perform at halftime and they
bounce into each other.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, PAULI, how come.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
They don't make Jackson Dart wear one of the guardian
caps people they're starting to catch on.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, but he does it once again, the way he plays,
he doesn't he would.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Not be wearing He'd rather go with no helmet. Yeah,
probably so no face match do it in the old days.
But I like him. Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
You know my tenemom talked about his completion percentage is
not very good in today's NFL. You got to be
sixty five percent, you know, at least sixty two three percent.
Just feels like everybody is, you know, approaching those crazy numbers.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
You got Milik Neighbors, you got some defensive players, and
Skataboo might be a you know, a legitimate running back
for you. He's fun to watch, but you know his style,
how long does that style last? I mean the great
Earl Campbell ran like that. He's in a wheelchair now.
But I would say the Giants, and you know, you
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factor in it's New York and might be but the
pressure is there as well, so i'd probably say them,
I didn't see Tennessee, you know up there as high.
Arizona's got some talent. It just they got to decide
what are you doing with Kyler Murray? And it feels
like they already made that decision. Yeah, Marph, what about
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the Falcons? Just based on the division, it's so winnable.
I know, well, you know, I don't know what your
quarterbacking situation is. I don't think Pennick's going to be ready.
So now you have Kirk Cousins, who actually played. He's
a better quarterback than Michael Pennix right now, he is.
Michael Penis didn't look good. Kirk Cousins didn't look great either,
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but he gave you a better chance, it felt like
to win. What was he five and three in the
eight games that he started, So you have a great
running back. I think Pitts is a free agent, are
going to be a free agent, So I mean, yes,
in that division, yes, I would say, okay, because Arizona
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you're in there in the NFC West, and that that's
not changing anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It doesn't look like see for some reason, I like
the Raiders. I just don't.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I can't trust ownership. But if Brady's going to be
in there and truly be hands on, then I would
say the Raiders get a quarterback, running back, tight end,
get Max Crosby back on board. Then okay, you got
some things there.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
Yeah, Marh relax DP because somebody probably said that about
Michael Jordan when he brought to Charlotte Bobcatz, like, oh
there's Michael Jordan making the Pigs. Just because you're a
great player doesn't mean you're a great.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Oh I I absolutely great. Yea, absolutely. We talked about
that yesterday. You know, John Elway got in and got
in over his head in Denver because hey, I'm a quarterback.
I run a team. Oh no, you run an offense.
You don't run a team. Okay, who you taking in
the sixth round?
Speaker 6 (10:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You know you got to rely on your scouts. That's
what this is going to be. Yeah, I'd love to
know what Brady's role is on a daily basis. A
weekly basis, monthly basis. He'll be in the He'll be
the one pick in their head coach. I mean, if
I have him, I got to use it. So it's
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not like I want him to be there for meet
and greet in one of our suites. I want him
making decisions here because we've seen the decisions that have
been made before.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
And they're embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Point, I'm in the Las Vegas Raiders website right now
and Tom Brady is not listed as owner, contributor, personnel
assistant to the president. President. He's not on their website
as a contributor in any way officially.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Okay, Nick in La morning, Nick, what's on your line today?
Speaker 8 (11:50):
Hey Dan, Hey guys, how's it going. Hope you're attacking
twenty twenty six with enthusiasm unknown to mankind. I've got
an mm w WC you'd be for you that is
not named Josh Allen so most must win wild card
quarterback and it is justin Herbert because of his last
two appearances in the playoffs, and you also have a
defense that could carry you all the way. I do
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think it's him, And to agree with all the guys,
and also Paulie that brought it up. I would trade
down that Raiders pick.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
It would be.
Speaker 8 (12:23):
Getting the Raiders I think a little bit more closer
to being successful than where they are.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, you know, you've gotta have an offensive line. If
you've got to have a quarterback, you've got to have
an offensive line. I don't like when you get a
quarterback and then you try to get an offensive line,
because then you're playing catchup. If you have the line.
Now you got a quarterback. Now you got a chance.
And most teams do it ass backwards. Hey, we got
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our quarterback. Now we just got to protect him. Dane
in Texas, Hi, Dane, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Hey, good morning Dan. You know, doing what Marvin just
said about, you know, Brady's greatness and his you know,
fortunate positions in the booth and ownership doesn't necessarily mean
it's going to transfer to organizational skills or teaching skills.
And I was wondering, like, there's two two coaches and
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managers A then Smbardi and Sparky Anderson. Nobody would ever
accuse them of being a great player. Yet they could teach,
they could organize, and they were great at what they did.
Why do you suppose that's true.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
That well, because they had to a lot of times
you can rely on, don't you know who I am?
You know, Lombardi had to prove himself as an assistant
coach and then he got his opportunity with the Packers.
But he had to have his He had to know
what his formula was. He had to know this is
how I'm going to do it. And with Sparky Anderson,
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I mean he did have Before free agency, you were
able to keep all of those players, you wouldn't have
been able to keep the big Red machine together. I mean,
Bob Housen was the GM. He did a wonderful job
with all that talent. But Pete Rose and Joe Morgan
and Johnny Bench and Tony Perez, I mean they're not
staying there.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
They would have been all over the place. Yes, Todd
and Tommy.
Speaker 9 (14:16):
Losorta was a legendary manager, but I don't think he
did much as a player as far as like, if
you played well, that's going to somehow translate to your managerials.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Although didn't Tommy Lesorda strike out twenty seven batters in
a minor league game.
Speaker 9 (14:29):
That might have been one of those freakish games. You
might be right about that. I'm saying that he posted
an zero to four record brief stints with the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
And A's now I'm talking about minor league.
Speaker 9 (14:38):
But he was a very good minor league pitcher and
just didn't translate to the major league.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, but was he as good a baseball player as
I apparently was?
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Yes, Tommy Lasorda in the miners struck out twenty five
in a fifteen inning game.
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I shows it. If I didn't cut my hair, it
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a fro or anything, but I could use a little
you know, get a little mullet or a little a
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Speaker 2 (16:59):
But if Jordan didn't shave his head like it became
cool once Mike did it right, and.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Then everyone started to do it anything Mike did, everyone's
you know, be like Mike. Everyone wanted to be like Mike.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Reggie Miller full introduction.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
He was on the call for the Warriors Clippers last night,
Snoop Dogg joining.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
You there in the second. Yeah, I thought he did
a good job. I thought it was fun.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
He did a great job. He was well prepared, He
did his homework. He came in all the coaches meetings,
he did pregame interviews. I think you guys saw with
Stephen Curry, he just wasn't showing up to be a
pretty face. He put in the work. And Uh, the
game helped because it was a great game. It was
a one possession game, last second opportunity for Jimmy Butler,
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Steph had fouled out, and it was a game that
the Clippers obviously continued to need it because they got
off to that rough start six and to anyone, but
if won seven of eight, so it was a he
did his job.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Steve Kerr had some comments I don't know if it
was this past week or last week where he's kind
of saying, hey, you know, trying to win championships each year,
that's not going to happen anymore. And I'm paraphrasing here,
but it felt like there was backlash from the Golden
State fans who were like, wait a minute, you know,
kind of sounds like you're surrendering that you don't have
a championship caliber team. Was he being correct in what
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he was saying.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Well, currently constructed, He's correct. They don't have a championship team.
They're just missing something. And I think why his the
fan base is upset. They're like, wait a minute, we
just traded to get Jimmy Butler. Wasn't that supposed to
be one of those missing pieces to help us get
back to the championship mountain. And when I look at
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the Warriors and I just hope they're not wasting these
last two to three, three four years for Stephan Curry
because he can still at a high level get you
to the promised Land. They just need players, and I
equate it to this, you need certain players for sixteen games,
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and you need players for eighty two games. And Jimmy Butler,
Stephen Curry, Draymond Green are sixteen game players. Get me
to the playoffs and then we'll take over. It's the grind,
is what's the problem for the Golden State Warriors. They
don't have enough scoring for eighty two games. Stephan Curry
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can't do it like he used to do it with
Klay Thompson when they were younger. So the margin of
ra is very small. And I think the fan base
is upset because you've got a young player like Jonathan
Kaminga who's just sitting there collecting twenty two million, who
was supposed to be one of those players for eighty
two games and he's not delivering.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Man, his name comes up all the time in trade
talks all like for the last it feels like two
years at least.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Why don't they trade him?
Speaker 6 (20:11):
I think they're exploring their options. I would be surprised
if he is a Warrior past the trade deadline, because
again I think the I think Golden State has to
make another trade for a player just to come off
the bench and get your buckets to give step and
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Jimmy Butler some breathing room, because there's no way they're
going to make it to the finish line in the
Western Conference. This would go bode well if they were
in the Eastern Conference because there's really only two maybe
three teams playing at that high of the level, but
not in the Western Conference. You'll tax them too much.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Are you all in on the Clippers now? All of
a sudden, Are the Clippers formidable?
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Yes? The problem a lot like Golden State we saw
last night. They're the two oldest teams, and they don't
run a lot and they rely a lot on their
half court offense, which has been great lately. But more importantly,
their defense has stepped up. When they were last year,
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what made them great was their defense, and I think
over the last eight ball games they have the best
defense in the league. Now, I know it's a small
sample size, but they've won seven of eight and it's
because of their defense. Can they continue to play like that?
We'll see. What helps? Is Kawhi's healthy and playing and
you see the numbers, but is he going to go
through one of those stints where he plays one game?
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Doesn't play right now? He has to play Harden didn't
play last night because of shoulder stiffness. But again, their
margin of era it's very small because those guys can't
take nights off because there's not enough scoring on the
back end of the roster.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Talking to Reggie Miller, he was on the call last
night the Warriors and the Clipper Steve Kerr getting thrown
out of that game. Oh yeah, Steve's not having a
good year.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Well, and why do you say that.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
He just seems like he's frustrated. You know, the Draymond
Green stuff. They're not you know, they're a little better
than average.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Maybe he's really coaching harder than he's ever had to coach.
Used to be easy when you just said go out
there and have some fun and shoot some threes.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Guys.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Again, that's why it's the beauty, you know, when you've
been to the mountaintop like Steve has been as a player,
it's won five chips four times. As a coach with
the Warriors, I think at times you can come become complacent,
and I think he's trying to show its fan base
as well as his team. If you want to continue
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to be great, there's sacrifices that have to be made,
and there's tough choices that have to be said, and
the budding of head with Dreymond Green, you would be surprised.
That happens all the time. I mean, you're a family,
and as long as those guys have been together and
all the wars that they've been through, I kind of
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give them a long leash because I think they're allowed
to kind of speak to one another that way because
there's history there, and I just hope it never comes
to a head because Draymond Green is the perfect player
for this team because without him, I mean, he leads
this team and assists point forward. The problem is has
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been his offense because teams are just daring him to shoot.
And if you watch the game last night, to start
the game, he had three or four wide open threes.
Teammates two or three of those. The Warriors are almost
running away with this game because the momentum would have
been on their side. But it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
You have coaches of former players who become coaches, but
it's rare when a really successful player becomes a head coach.
You had Larry Bird there, But what is it about
the role player becoming a head coach? Over maybe an
all star kind of player becoming a head coach.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Well you kind of look at JJ Reddick, Steve Kerr,
guys that were someone at the you say, role player
or into the bench. I think they can look at
all They can see what the star player goes through.
They can see what a role player who plays, you know,
twelve to fifteen minutes a game, and they can see
a guy who never sees the light of day, and
he can kind of weave his way and and act
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like all three of those different proponents. And I think
that's what makes the successful because they can relate to
all three of them. Again, playing for Larry Bird and
Isaiah Thomas another Hall of Famer. Personally, for me it
was a joy because I played against those guys. I
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knew how they prepared, and then to be coached from them.
From my standpoint, it was great. I don't know if
it was great for the younger players, but for us
older guys like Mark, Sam Perkins, Derek Back. We all
went against Larry legend. We respected him. There was a
lot of pressure to play for him, but but it
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was worth it because that's what we wanted, that's what
we signed up for.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Can you talk back to a legend.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
I think there's there's respect there. Look, I'm from you
know this military. There's no talking back. There's a chain
of there's got to be a chain of command. Now
you may have disagreements, you may have arguments of practice,
but during a game, I don't think it never rose
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to that you're right, I'm right, you're wrong. It never
rose to that. You got to be respectful to your coach.
And you can handle that stuff in the locker room.
You never want to do that on the bench shore
where other people can peer in and know what your
family business is going on.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Trey Young used to be a big deal with the Hawks.
That was a good story. It was a few years ago.
He's celebrating against the Knicks in the garden, he's playing
in the Eastern Conference finals, his numbers look really good.
He's in his prime, and he's on the trading block.
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What happened with this?
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Here's the problem. Here's the problem, and sometimes it's getting
success too early. You mentioned it. I think his decline
really started after the Hawks went to the conference finals
and lost to the Milwaukee Bucks, the eventual champions, and
I think things came too easy for him. And again,
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I'm not in their practices. I don't follow them day
to day, but I hear things, and when you hear
things that players don't like playing with him. He doesn't
practice hard, he doesn't come early and work out. He
certainly doesn't stay late and work on his game. When
I hear comments like that, I hope they're not true,
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because I think he is an unbelievable talent and he
can help a team out. The problem is he's small.
He's not going to grow. He's not very big. He's slight,
so he gets taken advantage of at the defensive end.
And if you're not going to work on your game,
you're not going to bulke up. Look at Stephen Curry.
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I mean they were almost the same size at one point,
and you look at Curry now how much he has
bulked up. Continue used to work on his shot like
it's going out of business. I don't know if Trey
works like that. I don't know if he's committed to
working like that. So if you're the Hawks, you have
a decision to make what can you get in return
for him? And the longer they wait, those kind of
(28:18):
returns start to go down. It's like the stock market.
So but I know we've seen him on misplay in
New York. We know he's an ice trade. We know
what he can deliver is what can you get for him?
And going forward? How is trade going to act wherever
he goes?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Jokers out of the MVP conversation, SGA and the thunder
of lost what five of their last ten? Can we
somehow slip Cad Cunningham into the MVP conversation?
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Yes, And I'm surprised more people are not speaking about Caid.
We had a chance to do a game up close
and personal, their last game on that long West coast
road trip versus the Lakers, and they beat the breaks
off the Lakers and Kate Cunningham look for those of
(29:16):
you who are late to the party. Overall number one
pick out of Oklahoma State and for his size at
sixty five sixty six, being a point guard controls the
whole action. And it helps now that Jalen Durnham has
kind of grown into being that force download for them.
They have a great one two connection and chemistry between
(29:39):
those two. He plays defense. Yeah, I think on the
backing you've got Luca will be mentioned. It's unfortunate I
don't know if Joker will qualify for those games. SGA
will be in the running. I don't think Giannis is
going to qualify, but he'll have the type of numbers.
(30:00):
But Cade should certainly be in the discussion for MVP,
no question.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, it's just they're not a glamour team in a
glamour town.
Speaker 10 (30:11):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
You know, Sports Center is not going to be leading
with Detroit. And you know they're they're the number one
seed right now. I mean they're they're they're gonna they're
gonna force feed you the Knicks, even the Celtics. But
Detroit's just not They're not gonna get national attention. And
that's a shame because he's averaging twenty seven to ten
and six for a team that's played that proved that
(30:36):
last year was no fluke with.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Them second best record in the Association behind Oka See
and but this this is kind of on par for
the Pistons, right they were the bad boys, Isaiah. They
had great players, but they didn't get a lot of love.
Back to back champs. Same thing with Chauncey's team in
two thousand and four. It was five guys, Tayshaun Prince,
(31:01):
Rip Hamilton or Shide Wallace Ben Wallace. But they weren't
a sexy team. What do they do? They won a championship.
This current Detroit team is cut from the same claw.
They've got one star on the verge of being a
superstared kde an up and coming great young player and
center in Jalen Durham. But you think, well, who else
(31:25):
is really on this team? Isaiah Stewart is the Ben
Wallace of the team, the tough guy, but you couldn't
name anyone else. JB. Bickersteph is doing a great job.
And yes everyone likes to push and rightfully so Jalen
Brunson and the Knicks, but those are the two top
teams in the Eastern Conference. And look, they went head
(31:47):
to head last night and what happened. The Pistons smacked him.
So that was a message game because last year during
the playoffs, Brunson was doing all the kissing to the
fans after hitting threes, and he wanted to make the
Pistons wanting to make a statement that is going to
be very difficult this year for you to come in
this building and be successful.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Uh, you got the Spurs in the thunder next Tuesday.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
Is this becoming the robbery? Is this becoming one of
the best robbalerries.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I hope it is.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
I hope so too, because to beat Okac you've got
to have a number of things. You've got to have
guards that are committed to pick up full That's exactly
what the Spurs have and Castle Basel Deer Fox is
one of those closers. And Wimby they have hit the champs.
(32:47):
The Spurs have Wimby is two young teams and there's
a little bit of a crack now in a seven
game series. I probably would still take Okac right now
because of experience. But the beauty of this is the
Spurs an't afraid of them, and a lot of teeths
are afraid of Okac. I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Hey, great to catch up with you. We'll talk to
you soon. Thank you, reg, I appreciate.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Your thead or welcome back, Happy New Year.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Dannett's Reggie Miller, Hall of Famer and the lead analyst
for MBC, and he'll be on the call Tuesday, January thirteenth,
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Speaker 3 (33:44):
I got something for you here.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
We were talking about Kurt Signetti and Mike Tannenbaum, just
throwing it out there, what about a package deal where
Kurt Signetti and Fernando Mendoza would go to the Raiders,
And I said, Kurt Signetti makes too much more So
in twenty twenty three, Kurt Signetti's total pay at James
Madison six hundred and seventy seven thousand dollars with bonuses.
(34:11):
Signetti this year will be the highest paid coach in
college football. He will exceed Kirby Smart thirteen point two
million dollars. His salary increase in three years two thousand,
one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
Statu a day Statu to day, stat of the day,
stat of the day, A Statu the day, Statu to
day stat of.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
The day, brought to you by Peniny America. And keep
in mind he's getting a million dollars or two million
dollars with their success here in the playoffs. And my
source says that Indiana will do everything possible to make
sure he wants to stay at Indiana as long as
he wants to. My source goes on to say, by
the way you're talking about or somebody mentioned Andy Reid
(34:59):
maybe stepping down. Keep in mind Andy Reid makes twenty
million dollars a year. You know what, I could go
through a rebuild or a reload for twenty million dollars
a year. Of course, so Kurt Signetti makes too much money,
and the raiders are you're paying too much money to
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former coaches and factor in do you really want to
go to the NFL? Well, you got something like this,
You've got a chance to do something historically and be
able to stay there. Like Mike Krzyzewsky did it, Duke.
I mean a lot of these guys, you do something
and you'll always be recognized. I mean it should have
(35:41):
been that way for Joe Paterno, it didn't turn out
that way obviously, Tom Iszill at Michigan State. I mean,
there's so many of these coaches who build a legacy
and continue to add to the legacy.
Speaker 7 (35:51):
Yes, marv Is Signetti the safest coach in all of football,
Like safety goals five and seven next year?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Uh oh, well, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Know, I don't know enough about You would think Indiana
would go, man, we got a national championship, or if
they got to the national championship and then you go
five and seven. Yeah, he's going to build up. I
would think he'd be on scholarship for a while. I
would hope so. But then remember who was the Indiana coach?
(36:22):
Was that Tom Allen? Oh my god, everybody loved Tom Allen.
Oh man, that guy. Give him an extension, and all
of a sudden, it's.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
We're gonna fire him.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
This is different because you're you know, their expectations are
so high. They're expecting, expecting to win a national championship.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yes, Mark, Indiana's a football school, not anymore, not anymore.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
You know I said, Indiana's a football school, yes, bully.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
And if you're Indiana, you match whatever offer is given
to Signetti. I mean, he's printing money for you. It's
like Nick Saban twenty years ago at Alabama. Every dollar
you spent on him, you're getting three back.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Yeah. Oh did I miss hear you? They were a
football team, correct?
Speaker 6 (37:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah, they are a football football school. I was texting.
Dan Dockets said that to me, sent me a text
last night he goes Indiana football school. Said yeah, that
that long tradition of two years of being a football school.
Let me see Aiden in Utah, Hi Aiden, welcome back.
Speaker 11 (37:22):
Yeah, good morning, Danny. Listen, time is a flat circle. Okay,
we're back in twenty fifteen. The Denver Broncos with a
medi yocre offense and a stellar defense. They clinch the
one seed. They go to Santa Clara to face the
MVP in cam Newton, and they win the Super Bowl
DWN twix. The Denver Broncos have a yoka offense but
(37:46):
an outstanding defense. They clinched the one seeds. They're going
to go to Santa Clara to face the MVP and
Matthew Stafford, and they are your twenty twenty five twenty
twenty six Super Bowl champion.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
All Right, you love that synergy that numerology to.
Speaker 9 (38:02):
I really do. I love that. That's made some very
valid points there.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Dan Orlomsky of the Mothership. Well Jonas on the program tomorrow,
Mike and Columbus. Good morning, Mike. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (38:13):
Bry Dad, how are you going?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Good? Good?
Speaker 12 (38:16):
A first time caller six one, two fifteen. There's a
hot rumor going around the state of Ohio that the
new Brown's coach is going to be Travis Kelce. Have
you heard that?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
No? I have not, no, but thank you for the
phone call. Good luck.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
If you get Travis Kelce, you get Taylor Swift as well.
By the way, Todd mcshae the McShay Show podcast and
NFL Draft analyst had this to say about the New
York Jets.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Would you or would you not?
Speaker 13 (38:55):
As the representation or the rep for Dante Moore kind
of reach out to the Raiders and say, Hey, my
client's trying to make a decision, give me we can
live with going to thirty of the thirty two teams.
Speaker 14 (39:08):
I can't allow him to go to the New York Jets,
So I can allow my client to go back to
Oregon and have another season. Or you can pretty much
promise me that he's gonna be the number one overall pick.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Is that fit so far fetched? Because I know it's not.
Speaker 14 (39:22):
But we're not one single player in this entire draft
unless they grew up a Jets fan or have some
kind of family tie wants to be a New York Jet.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Well, if you're gonna be the second pick in the
draft or third pick in the draft, you know you're
gonna you're gonna want to go to Okay, it's New York.
Yes it is the Jets, but you're gonna be paid
more to go there. I don't know if anybody's pulling
an e line. Man, if Dante Moore is gonna go,
I don't want to play for the Jets. Now, I
can understand you might not want to, but I mean
(39:54):
it's a good problem to have.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
I would think. Yeah, and they you know, Jets do
have some resources, some draft picks.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
Oh sorry, he sounded serious this day and sports history, Baul,
I have a quick one for you, Dan as the
quiz Peter O'Malley and O'Malley family announced that they're selling
the Dodgers in nineteen ninety seven. What did they sell
the Dodgers for in nineteen ninety seven after owning a
forty seven years? And what's it worth today? Who wants
a shot at that?
Speaker 2 (40:22):
That wasn't Frank McCort No, that's the next year, Oh,
the next one, okay for sales?
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah, I have no idea.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
The Dodgers were sold in ninety seven for three hundred
and fifty million dollars if they would have held on
to it. The franchise is now worth seven billion and growing.
Their revenue last year was double three hundred fifty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Let's go around the room. What we learned of the program? Toddler.
Speaker 9 (40:46):
Kyle Whittingham learned there's one university in the state of
Texas paying a q BE five.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Million bucks, Texas Tech Seatan. The package deal is back, Marvin.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
The coal in Texas is detailed, Yes she is.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Congratulations on the engage, Paul Lots of package talking, todd
What did I learn?
Speaker 9 (41:03):
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Speaker 2 (41:06):
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You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. Leave it to the Cowboys. They wanted to
have their own day to fire somebody. They have fired
their defensive coordinator, Matt Eberflus. Brian Floores his name will
probably come up. Raheem Morris name will probably come up
as well. But Jonathan Gannon's name, he just got fired
(00:25):
on Monday as well. Maybe you're going to bring in
Denver's assistant head coach. Jim Leonard is a name that
I guess would come up there as well. But the
Dallas Cowboys have fired their defensive coordinator, Matt Eberflus.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Welcome to the program. Already in progress the final hour.
Reggie Miller will stop by more phone calls as well.
Once again, I want to reiterate something that happened about
two hours ago. We had Mike Tannebaum on for the Mothership,
former front office executive for a couple of teams, and
we were taught talking about the openings here and I
(01:02):
asked him to rank the openings worse to first, and
he talked about the Raiders and he said, now this
is just speculation. I can't even say it's just him talking.
And he just put it out there of what about
a package deal with Kurt Signetti at Indiana and Fernando
(01:23):
Mendoza his quarterback. Now he's saying that if he were
the Raiders, that he would consider that. Why not take
a chance see if he'd be interested in doing that. Which,
once again, if you hear of this on any other
show or you know, on the mother Ship or anybody
talking about this, it started with just Mike Tannenbaum as
(01:46):
if we're just chatting. It wasn't a report. So I
want to make sure I'm fair to Mike that people
aren't saying, hey, I heard or on the Dan Patrick Show,
I heard them say this, Yes, Mike Tannenbaum, and we
just kind of threw it out there. We love to
do these package deals because remember with the Bears, Lincoln
Riley and Caleb Williams. But that was a big deal.
(02:09):
That was a big deal until it was no deal.
Arch Manning, Nick Saban.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Pete, Carroll Mettleiner to go together. No that, what's you say?
Speaker 4 (02:18):
None of that.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
But once again, this is not a report. This is
just him kind of musing on the possibility of maybe
Kurt Signetti makes too much money that the Raiders are
I think paying three coaches now, I think that at
least three head coaches former head coaches at that. But
(02:43):
this is just Mike saying, hey, I would certainly consider this.
I'd kick the tires on this Signetti makes too much money,
and plus he's got something great here, and you already
got your quarterback to replace Fernando Mendoza. And you know
it should be old speed ahead. We should expect Indiana
to become a football school.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yes, Pauli, the.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Raiders are paying Pete Carroll. Obviously, they're paying offensive coordinator
Chip Kelly six million dollars for next.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Year to not coach millions offense.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Yeah, they the settlement John Gruden is ten million, the
payout to Josh McDaniels is ten and Antonio Pearce is eight.
I'm not a math guy, but that's over fifty million bucks.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
Goodness to not coach.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Yeah, yeah, make them all come back for one year
and then you have a lot of coaches.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Man, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
But you got the first pick in the draft, Like
this feels like you can't screw that up, right.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
I've been sitting on this one. As much as I
love me some Fernando Mendoza. Heights Mendoza. They're not in
position to take a quarterback at this juncture with their
offensive line. Like you said, it's it's a recipe for
disaster because they'll probably art in week one, which would
be the opposite way.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yes, yes, I don't want if you take Fernando Mendoz,
I don't want to start in week one. I've said before,
there's nothing like watching a football game, an NFL game
from the sidelines, whether you're just a fan or you're
actually a player, it's just different. It is a different speed,
and I want I would want that guy to be
(04:24):
able to kind of ease his way in, not go
out there and turn the franchise around. The reason why
you're being drafted where you're being drafted is your team
isn't any good.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
You're not walking.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's rare when you walk into a team and you
go like Patrick Mahomes walked into a really good team,
a playoff team. It's really really rare when you're doing that.
But we ask these guys to be saviors, and when
you put him in there early, it doesn't it usually
doesn't go well.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, Palling, I'll throw this out there for the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
You guys, let me know what you think. Okay, Raiders
are the first pick, Jets the second. They're probably both
taking quarterbacks. What if the Raiders called the Arizona Cardinals
at three and traded down with them, got a monster
haul and rebuild their franchise from the inside out.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
But are you taking Kyler Murray as well?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
No?
Speaker 5 (05:15):
I don't want any part of that contract.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I just want the pick.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I only have to have him for one year. Yeah,
winning is maybe, and he's in a contract year, but Arizona.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
May overpay for that first pick this year to go
up two spots. And if you don't love Love Mendoza.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I just got to make sure that the people who
are drafting are going to draft the right people. Because,
as the Browns have proven in previous years, previous drafts,
they can have a lot of picks. That doesn't mean
they know what they're doing now. They have since made
some pretty good draft picks. But back you know, Brady Quinn,
you know that didn't work out. Who is the defensive
(05:56):
back from Oklahoma State?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Gilbert? That will yeah something Gilbert?
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yes, Martin Courtney Brown yeah, second.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Pick Liman yeah, yeah, second pick overall, I believe Justin Gilbert.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Justin Gilbert.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, Yeah, there's certain organizations that you trust, Like I
believe Baltimore usually gets it right. They're one of those
franchises where you go, they took him, Okay, yes, Martin.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
And for example, the Jets, like man Sam darn is
not any good now he's just on the Jets. Yeah,
because he's played well in two different places now.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
But we talked about the most interesting opening with Mike Tannenbaum.
I would say it's the Giants. Now he took the Titans.
But okay, you got cam Ward. What else do you have?
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Now?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Maybe you got a lot of cap room, but like
you need a lot of cap room to fix all
the issues that you have. H But you can say, hey,
I go in there and it's a blank slate. But
how long do you get with a blank slate? Like
two years? Maybe three years?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Yeah, Paul, But maybe a guy like Tannabaum looks at
the Titan says, I have like an open lot to
build a house.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I've got a rookie.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Quarterback who is the last four games are pretty good
for cam Ward and he's on a rookie contract. They
lead the NFL and cap room for the next two
years at one hundred and five million. Gems want to build,
they don't want to inherit issues. I think, well, if.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I, if I could put more padding around Jackson Dart,
you know, like it'd be one of those you know,
those sumo wrestlers when they perform at halftime and they
bounce into each other.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, PAULI, how come.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
They don't make Jackson Dart wear one of the guardian
caps people they're starting to catch on.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, but he does it once again, the way he plays,
he doesn't he would.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Not be wearing He'd rather go with no helmet. Yeah,
probably so no face match do it in the old days.
But I like him. Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
You know my tenemom talked about his completion percentage is
not very good in today's NFL. You got to be
sixty five percent, you know, at least sixty two three percent.
Just feels like everybody is, you know, approaching those crazy numbers.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
You got Milik Neighbors, you got some defensive players, and
Skataboo might be a you know, a legitimate running back
for you. He's fun to watch, but you know his style,
how long does that style last? I mean the great
Earl Campbell ran like that. He's in a wheelchair now.
But I would say the Giants, and you know, you
(08:44):
factor in it's New York and might be but the
pressure is there as well, so i'd probably say them,
I didn't see Tennessee, you know up there as high.
Arizona's got some talent. It just they got to decide
what are you doing with Kyler Murray? And it feels
like they already made that decision. Yeah, Marph, what about
(09:10):
the Falcons? Just based on the division, it's so winnable.
I know, well, you know, I don't know what your
quarterbacking situation is. I don't think Pennick's going to be ready.
So now you have Kirk Cousins, who actually played. He's
a better quarterback than Michael Pennix right now, he is.
Michael Penis didn't look good. Kirk Cousins didn't look great either,
(09:35):
but he gave you a better chance, it felt like
to win. What was he five and three in the
eight games that he started, So you have a great
running back. I think Pitts is a free agent, are
going to be a free agent, So I mean, yes,
in that division, yes, I would say, okay, because Arizona
(09:57):
you're in there in the NFC West, and that that's
not changing anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It doesn't look like see for some reason, I like
the Raiders. I just don't.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I can't trust ownership. But if Brady's going to be
in there and truly be hands on, then I would
say the Raiders get a quarterback, running back, tight end,
get Max Crosby back on board. Then okay, you got
some things there.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
Yeah, Marh relax DP because somebody probably said that about
Michael Jordan when he brought to Charlotte Bobcatz, like, oh
there's Michael Jordan making the Pigs. Just because you're a
great player doesn't mean you're a great.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Oh I I absolutely great. Yea, absolutely. We talked about
that yesterday. You know, John Elway got in and got
in over his head in Denver because hey, I'm a quarterback.
I run a team. Oh no, you run an offense.
You don't run a team. Okay, who you taking in
the sixth round?
Speaker 6 (10:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You know you got to rely on your scouts. That's
what this is going to be. Yeah, I'd love to
know what Brady's role is on a daily basis. A
weekly basis, monthly basis. He'll be in the He'll be
the one pick in their head coach. I mean, if
I have him, I got to use it. So it's
(11:17):
not like I want him to be there for meet
and greet in one of our suites. I want him
making decisions here because we've seen the decisions that have
been made before.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
And they're embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Point, I'm in the Las Vegas Raiders website right now
and Tom Brady is not listed as owner, contributor, personnel
assistant to the president. President. He's not on their website
as a contributor in any way officially.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Okay, Nick in La morning, Nick, what's on your line today?
Speaker 8 (11:50):
Hey Dan, Hey guys, how's it going. Hope you're attacking
twenty twenty six with enthusiasm unknown to mankind. I've got
an mm w WC you'd be for you that is
not named Josh Allen so most must win wild card
quarterback and it is justin Herbert because of his last
two appearances in the playoffs, and you also have a
defense that could carry you all the way. I do
(12:13):
think it's him, And to agree with all the guys,
and also Paulie that brought it up. I would trade
down that Raiders pick.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
It would be.
Speaker 8 (12:23):
Getting the Raiders I think a little bit more closer
to being successful than where they are.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, you know, you've gotta have an offensive line. If
you've got to have a quarterback, you've got to have
an offensive line. I don't like when you get a
quarterback and then you try to get an offensive line,
because then you're playing catchup. If you have the line.
Now you got a quarterback. Now you got a chance.
And most teams do it ass backwards. Hey, we got
(12:50):
our quarterback. Now we just got to protect him. Dane
in Texas, Hi, Dane, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Hey, good morning Dan. You know, doing what Marvin just
said about, you know, Brady's greatness and his you know,
fortunate positions in the booth and ownership doesn't necessarily mean
it's going to transfer to organizational skills or teaching skills.
And I was wondering, like, there's two two coaches and
(13:18):
managers A then Smbardi and Sparky Anderson. Nobody would ever
accuse them of being a great player. Yet they could teach,
they could organize, and they were great at what they did.
Why do you suppose that's true.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
That well, because they had to a lot of times
you can rely on, don't you know who I am?
You know, Lombardi had to prove himself as an assistant
coach and then he got his opportunity with the Packers.
But he had to have his He had to know
what his formula was. He had to know this is
how I'm going to do it. And with Sparky Anderson,
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I mean he did have Before free agency, you were
able to keep all of those players, you wouldn't have
been able to keep the big Red machine together. I mean,
Bob Housen was the GM. He did a wonderful job
with all that talent. But Pete Rose and Joe Morgan
and Johnny Bench and Tony Perez, I mean they're not
staying there.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
They would have been all over the place. Yes, Todd
and Tommy.
Speaker 9 (14:16):
Losorta was a legendary manager, but I don't think he
did much as a player as far as like, if
you played well, that's going to somehow translate to your managerials.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Although didn't Tommy Lesorda strike out twenty seven batters in
a minor league game.
Speaker 9 (14:29):
That might have been one of those freakish games. You
might be right about that. I'm saying that he posted
an zero to four record brief stints with the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
And A's now I'm talking about minor league.
Speaker 9 (14:38):
But he was a very good minor league pitcher and
just didn't translate to the major league.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, but was he as good a baseball player as
I apparently was?
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Yes, Tommy Lasorda in the miners struck out twenty five
in a fifteen inning game.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
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Speaker 2 (16:34):
Why didn't you ask me, Nicky?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Did you did you choose baldness?
Speaker 6 (16:44):
I shows it. If I didn't cut my hair, it
would grow in. It wouldn't be great. I couldn't get
a fro or anything, but I could use a little
you know, get a little mullet or a little a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
But if Jordan didn't shave his head like it became
cool once Mike did it right, and.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Then everyone started to do it anything Mike did, everyone's
you know, be like Mike. Everyone wanted to be like Mike.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Reggie Miller full introduction.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
He was on the call for the Warriors Clippers last night,
Snoop Dogg joining.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
You there in the second. Yeah, I thought he did
a good job. I thought it was fun.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
He did a great job. He was well prepared, He
did his homework. He came in all the coaches meetings,
he did pregame interviews. I think you guys saw with
Stephen Curry, he just wasn't showing up to be a
pretty face. He put in the work. And Uh, the
game helped because it was a great game. It was
a one possession game, last second opportunity for Jimmy Butler,
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Steph had fouled out, and it was a game that
the Clippers obviously continued to need it because they got
off to that rough start six and to anyone, but
if won seven of eight, so it was a he
did his job.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Steve Kerr had some comments I don't know if it
was this past week or last week where he's kind
of saying, hey, you know, trying to win championships each year,
that's not going to happen anymore. And I'm paraphrasing here,
but it felt like there was backlash from the Golden
State fans who were like, wait a minute, you know,
kind of sounds like you're surrendering that you don't have
a championship caliber team. Was he being correct in what
(18:29):
he was saying.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Well, currently constructed, He's correct. They don't have a championship team.
They're just missing something. And I think why his the
fan base is upset. They're like, wait a minute, we
just traded to get Jimmy Butler. Wasn't that supposed to
be one of those missing pieces to help us get
back to the championship mountain. And when I look at
(18:53):
the Warriors and I just hope they're not wasting these
last two to three, three four years for Stephan Curry
because he can still at a high level get you
to the promised Land. They just need players, and I
equate it to this, you need certain players for sixteen games,
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and you need players for eighty two games. And Jimmy Butler,
Stephen Curry, Draymond Green are sixteen game players. Get me
to the playoffs and then we'll take over. It's the grind,
is what's the problem for the Golden State Warriors. They
don't have enough scoring for eighty two games. Stephan Curry
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can't do it like he used to do it with
Klay Thompson when they were younger. So the margin of
ra is very small. And I think the fan base
is upset because you've got a young player like Jonathan
Kaminga who's just sitting there collecting twenty two million, who
was supposed to be one of those players for eighty
two games and he's not delivering.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Man, his name comes up all the time in trade
talks all like for the last it feels like two
years at least.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Why don't they trade him?
Speaker 6 (20:11):
I think they're exploring their options. I would be surprised
if he is a Warrior past the trade deadline, because
again I think the I think Golden State has to
make another trade for a player just to come off
the bench and get your buckets to give step and
(20:34):
Jimmy Butler some breathing room, because there's no way they're
going to make it to the finish line in the
Western Conference. This would go bode well if they were
in the Eastern Conference because there's really only two maybe
three teams playing at that high of the level, but
not in the Western Conference. You'll tax them too much.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Are you all in on the Clippers now? All of
a sudden, Are the Clippers formidable?
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Yes? The problem a lot like Golden State we saw
last night. They're the two oldest teams, and they don't
run a lot and they rely a lot on their
half court offense, which has been great lately. But more importantly,
their defense has stepped up. When they were last year,
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what made them great was their defense, and I think
over the last eight ball games they have the best
defense in the league. Now, I know it's a small
sample size, but they've won seven of eight and it's
because of their defense. Can they continue to play like that?
We'll see. What helps? Is Kawhi's healthy and playing and
you see the numbers, but is he going to go
through one of those stints where he plays one game?
(21:45):
Doesn't play right now? He has to play Harden didn't
play last night because of shoulder stiffness. But again, their
margin of era it's very small because those guys can't
take nights off because there's not enough scoring on the
back end of the roster.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Talking to Reggie Miller, he was on the call last
night the Warriors and the Clipper Steve Kerr getting thrown
out of that game. Oh yeah, Steve's not having a
good year.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Well, and why do you say that.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
He just seems like he's frustrated. You know, the Draymond
Green stuff. They're not you know, they're a little better
than average.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Maybe he's really coaching harder than he's ever had to coach.
Used to be easy when you just said go out
there and have some fun and shoot some threes.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Guys.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Again, that's why it's the beauty, you know, when you've
been to the mountaintop like Steve has been as a player,
it's won five chips four times. As a coach with
the Warriors, I think at times you can come become complacent,
and I think he's trying to show its fan base
as well as his team. If you want to continue
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to be great, there's sacrifices that have to be made,
and there's tough choices that have to be said, and
the budding of head with Dreymond Green, you would be surprised.
That happens all the time. I mean, you're a family,
and as long as those guys have been together and
all the wars that they've been through, I kind of
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give them a long leash because I think they're allowed
to kind of speak to one another that way because
there's history there, and I just hope it never comes
to a head because Draymond Green is the perfect player
for this team because without him, I mean, he leads
this team and assists point forward. The problem is has
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been his offense because teams are just daring him to shoot.
And if you watch the game last night, to start
the game, he had three or four wide open threes.
Teammates two or three of those. The Warriors are almost
running away with this game because the momentum would have
been on their side. But it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
You have coaches of former players who become coaches, but
it's rare when a really successful player becomes a head coach.
You had Larry Bird there, But what is it about
the role player becoming a head coach? Over maybe an
all star kind of player becoming a head coach.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
Well you kind of look at JJ Reddick, Steve Kerr,
guys that were someone at the you say, role player
or into the bench. I think they can look at
all They can see what the star player goes through.
They can see what a role player who plays, you know,
twelve to fifteen minutes a game, and they can see
a guy who never sees the light of day, and
he can kind of weave his way and and act
(24:56):
like all three of those different proponents. And I think
that's what makes the successful because they can relate to
all three of them. Again, playing for Larry Bird and
Isaiah Thomas another Hall of Famer. Personally, for me it
was a joy because I played against those guys. I
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knew how they prepared, and then to be coached from them.
From my standpoint, it was great. I don't know if
it was great for the younger players, but for us
older guys like Mark, Sam Perkins, Derek Back. We all
went against Larry legend. We respected him. There was a
lot of pressure to play for him, but but it
(25:36):
was worth it because that's what we wanted, that's what
we signed up for.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Can you talk back to a legend.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
I think there's there's respect there. Look, I'm from you
know this military. There's no talking back. There's a chain
of there's got to be a chain of command. Now
you may have disagreements, you may have arguments of practice,
but during a game, I don't think it never rose
(26:08):
to that you're right, I'm right, you're wrong. It never
rose to that. You got to be respectful to your coach.
And you can handle that stuff in the locker room.
You never want to do that on the bench shore
where other people can peer in and know what your
family business is going on.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Trey Young used to be a big deal with the Hawks.
That was a good story. It was a few years ago.
He's celebrating against the Knicks in the garden, he's playing
in the Eastern Conference finals, his numbers look really good.
He's in his prime, and he's on the trading block.
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What happened with this?
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Here's the problem. Here's the problem, and sometimes it's getting
success too early. You mentioned it. I think his decline
really started after the Hawks went to the conference finals
and lost to the Milwaukee Bucks, the eventual champions, and
I think things came too easy for him. And again,
(27:12):
I'm not in their practices. I don't follow them day
to day, but I hear things, and when you hear
things that players don't like playing with him. He doesn't
practice hard, he doesn't come early and work out. He
certainly doesn't stay late and work on his game. When
I hear comments like that, I hope they're not true,
(27:32):
because I think he is an unbelievable talent and he
can help a team out. The problem is he's small.
He's not going to grow. He's not very big. He's slight,
so he gets taken advantage of at the defensive end.
And if you're not going to work on your game,
you're not going to bulke up. Look at Stephen Curry.
(27:53):
I mean they were almost the same size at one point,
and you look at Curry now how much he has
bulked up. Continue used to work on his shot like
it's going out of business. I don't know if Trey
works like that. I don't know if he's committed to
working like that. So if you're the Hawks, you have
a decision to make what can you get in return
for him? And the longer they wait, those kind of
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returns start to go down. It's like the stock market.
So but I know we've seen him on misplay in
New York. We know he's an ice trade. We know
what he can deliver is what can you get for him?
And going forward? How is trade going to act wherever
he goes?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Jokers out of the MVP conversation, SGA and the thunder
of lost what five of their last ten? Can we
somehow slip Cad Cunningham into the MVP conversation?
Speaker 6 (28:54):
Yes, And I'm surprised more people are not speaking about Caid.
We had a chance to do a game up close
and personal, their last game on that long West coast
road trip versus the Lakers, and they beat the breaks
off the Lakers and Kate Cunningham look for those of
(29:16):
you who are late to the party. Overall number one
pick out of Oklahoma State and for his size at
sixty five sixty six, being a point guard controls the
whole action. And it helps now that Jalen Durnham has
kind of grown into being that force download for them.
They have a great one two connection and chemistry between
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those two. He plays defense. Yeah, I think on the
backing you've got Luca will be mentioned. It's unfortunate I
don't know if Joker will qualify for those games. SGA
will be in the running. I don't think Giannis is
going to qualify, but he'll have the type of numbers.
(30:00):
But Cade should certainly be in the discussion for MVP,
no question.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, it's just they're not a glamour team in a
glamour town.
Speaker 10 (30:11):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
You know, Sports Center is not going to be leading
with Detroit. And you know they're they're the number one
seed right now. I mean they're they're they're gonna they're
gonna force feed you the Knicks, even the Celtics. But
Detroit's just not They're not gonna get national attention. And
that's a shame because he's averaging twenty seven to ten
and six for a team that's played that proved that
(30:36):
last year was no fluke with.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Them second best record in the Association behind Oka See
and but this this is kind of on par for
the Pistons, right they were the bad boys, Isaiah. They
had great players, but they didn't get a lot of love.
Back to back champs. Same thing with Chauncey's team in
two thousand and four. It was five guys, Tayshaun Prince,
(31:01):
Rip Hamilton or Shide Wallace Ben Wallace. But they weren't
a sexy team. What do they do? They won a championship.
This current Detroit team is cut from the same claw.
They've got one star on the verge of being a
superstared kde an up and coming great young player and
center in Jalen Durham. But you think, well, who else
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is really on this team? Isaiah Stewart is the Ben
Wallace of the team, the tough guy, but you couldn't
name anyone else. JB. Bickersteph is doing a great job.
And yes everyone likes to push and rightfully so Jalen
Brunson and the Knicks, but those are the two top
teams in the Eastern Conference. And look, they went head
(31:47):
to head last night and what happened. The Pistons smacked him.
So that was a message game because last year during
the playoffs, Brunson was doing all the kissing to the
fans after hitting threes, and he wanted to make the
Pistons wanting to make a statement that is going to
be very difficult this year for you to come in
this building and be successful.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Uh, you got the Spurs in the thunder next Tuesday.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
Is this becoming the robbery? Is this becoming one of
the best robbalerries.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I hope it is.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
I hope so too, because to beat Okac you've got
to have a number of things. You've got to have
guards that are committed to pick up full That's exactly
what the Spurs have and Castle Basel Deer Fox is
one of those closers. And Wimby they have hit the champs.
(32:47):
The Spurs have Wimby is two young teams and there's
a little bit of a crack now in a seven
game series. I probably would still take Okac right now
because of experience. But the beauty of this is the
Spurs an't afraid of them, and a lot of teeths
are afraid of Okac. I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Hey, great to catch up with you. We'll talk to
you soon. Thank you, reg, I appreciate.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Your thead or welcome back, Happy New Year.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
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for MBC, and he'll be on the call Tuesday, January thirteenth,
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Speaker 3 (33:44):
I got something for you here.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
We were talking about Kurt Signetti and Mike Tannenbaum, just
throwing it out there, what about a package deal where
Kurt Signetti and Fernando Mendoza would go to the Raiders,
And I said, Kurt Signetti makes too much more So
in twenty twenty three, Kurt Signetti's total pay at James
Madison six hundred and seventy seven thousand dollars with bonuses.
(34:11):
Signetti this year will be the highest paid coach in
college football. He will exceed Kirby Smart thirteen point two
million dollars. His salary increase in three years two thousand,
one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
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Speaker 2 (34:37):
The day, brought to you by Peniny America. And keep
in mind he's getting a million dollars or two million
dollars with their success here in the playoffs. And my
source says that Indiana will do everything possible to make
sure he wants to stay at Indiana as long as
he wants to. My source goes on to say, by
the way you're talking about or somebody mentioned Andy Reid
(34:59):
maybe stepping down. Keep in mind Andy Reid makes twenty
million dollars a year. You know what, I could go
through a rebuild or a reload for twenty million dollars
a year. Of course, so Kurt Signetti makes too much money,
and the raiders are you're paying too much money to
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former coaches and factor in do you really want to
go to the NFL? Well, you got something like this,
You've got a chance to do something historically and be
able to stay there. Like Mike Krzyzewsky did it, Duke.
I mean a lot of these guys, you do something
and you'll always be recognized. I mean it should have
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been that way for Joe Paterno, it didn't turn out
that way obviously, Tom Iszill at Michigan State. I mean,
there's so many of these coaches who build a legacy
and continue to add to the legacy.
Speaker 7 (35:51):
Yes, marv Is Signetti the safest coach in all of football,
Like safety goals five and seven next year?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Uh oh, well, you know, you.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Know, I don't know enough about You would think Indiana
would go, man, we got a national championship, or if
they got to the national championship and then you go
five and seven. Yeah, he's going to build up. I
would think he'd be on scholarship for a while. I
would hope so. But then remember who was the Indiana coach?
(36:22):
Was that Tom Allen? Oh my god, everybody loved Tom Allen.
Oh man, that guy. Give him an extension, and all
of a sudden, it's.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
We're gonna fire him.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
This is different because you're you know, their expectations are
so high. They're expecting, expecting to win a national championship.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yes, Mark, Indiana's a football school, not anymore, not anymore.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
You know I said, Indiana's a football school, yes, bully.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
And if you're Indiana, you match whatever offer is given
to Signetti. I mean, he's printing money for you. It's
like Nick Saban twenty years ago at Alabama. Every dollar
you spent on him, you're getting three back.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Yeah. Oh did I miss hear you? They were a
football team, correct?
Speaker 6 (37:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah, they are a football football school. I was texting.
Dan Dockets said that to me, sent me a text
last night he goes Indiana football school. Said yeah, that
that long tradition of two years of being a football school.
Let me see Aiden in Utah, Hi Aiden, welcome back.
Speaker 11 (37:22):
Yeah, good morning, Danny. Listen, time is a flat circle. Okay,
we're back in twenty fifteen. The Denver Broncos with a
medi yocre offense and a stellar defense. They clinch the
one seed. They go to Santa Clara to face the
MVP in cam Newton, and they win the Super Bowl
DWN twix. The Denver Broncos have a yoka offense but
(37:46):
an outstanding defense. They clinched the one seeds. They're going
to go to Santa Clara to face the MVP and
Matthew Stafford, and they are your twenty twenty five twenty
twenty six Super Bowl champion.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
All Right, you love that synergy that numerology to.
Speaker 9 (38:02):
I really do. I love that. That's made some very
valid points there.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Dan Orlomsky of the Mothership. Well Jonas on the program tomorrow,
Mike and Columbus. Good morning, Mike. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 12 (38:13):
Bry Dad, how are you going?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Good? Good?
Speaker 12 (38:16):
A first time caller six one, two fifteen. There's a
hot rumor going around the state of Ohio that the
new Brown's coach is going to be Travis Kelce. Have
you heard that?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
No? I have not, no, but thank you for the
phone call. Good luck.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
If you get Travis Kelce, you get Taylor Swift as well.
By the way, Todd mcshae the McShay Show podcast and
NFL Draft analyst had this to say about the New
York Jets.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Would you or would you not?
Speaker 13 (38:55):
As the representation or the rep for Dante Moore kind
of reach out to the Raiders and say, Hey, my
client's trying to make a decision, give me we can
live with going to thirty of the thirty two teams.
Speaker 14 (39:08):
I can't allow him to go to the New York Jets,
So I can allow my client to go back to
Oregon and have another season. Or you can pretty much
promise me that he's gonna be the number one overall pick.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Is that fit so far fetched? Because I know it's not.
Speaker 14 (39:22):
But we're not one single player in this entire draft
unless they grew up a Jets fan or have some
kind of family tie wants to be a New York Jet.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Well, if you're gonna be the second pick in the
draft or third pick in the draft, you know you're
gonna you're gonna want to go to Okay, it's New York.
Yes it is the Jets, but you're gonna be paid
more to go there. I don't know if anybody's pulling
an e line. Man, if Dante Moore is gonna go,
I don't want to play for the Jets. Now, I
can understand you might not want to, but I mean
(39:54):
it's a good problem to have.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
I would think. Yeah, and they you know, Jets do
have some resources, some draft picks.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
Oh sorry, he sounded serious this day and sports history, Baul,
I have a quick one for you, Dan as the
quiz Peter O'Malley and O'Malley family announced that they're selling
the Dodgers in nineteen ninety seven. What did they sell
the Dodgers for in nineteen ninety seven after owning a
forty seven years? And what's it worth today? Who wants
a shot at that?
Speaker 2 (40:22):
That wasn't Frank McCort No, that's the next year, Oh,
the next one, okay for sales?
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah, I have no idea.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
The Dodgers were sold in ninety seven for three hundred
and fifty million dollars if they would have held on
to it. The franchise is now worth seven billion and growing.
Their revenue last year was double three hundred fifty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
Let's go around the room. What we learned of the program? Toddler.
Speaker 9 (40:46):
Kyle Whittingham learned there's one university in the state of
Texas paying a q BE five.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Million bucks, Texas Tech Seatan. The package deal is back, Marvin.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
The coal in Texas is detailed, Yes she is.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Congratulations on the engage, Paul Lots of package talking, todd
What did I learn?
Speaker 9 (41:03):
Reggie Mill says Kate Cuneham should be an MVP candidate.
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