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Dpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. We are wondering,
you know, the highs of Argentina winning, but the lows
of England losing. And I would say the low is
a lot lower than the high is with Argentina because
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you have that, you have that match, you're winning, you're
up one nil, and then all of a sudden, it
was quick, it was boom, and then it was six
minutes later. Next thing you know, you're just holding on
for dear life, you know, waiting for them to say
this game is officially over. Although there was part of
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that final three minutes it was such a frenetic pace
and you had England's goaltender, he's at midfield just trying
to hit bombs, you know, at least try to get
it close to the goal, and they never got close.
My guy, Harry Kane not a you know, all these
big scores, Harry Kane and Bope Holland didn't do anything
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in their biggest matches. MESSI had a couple of assists
and Argentina moves on to face Spain. They will have
a consolation match, a friendly third place the bronze final
that will be on Saturday in Miami. That will be
England against France.
Speaker 7 (02:32):
Yes, Pam, I almost pitched a really dumb idea, would
the NFL ever consider doing a third place game during
the playoffs?
Speaker 8 (02:39):
But I figured the answer be you universally No.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
Guess what they used to do it, Dan, They used
to call it the Playoff Bowl nineteen sixty through nineteen
sixty nine, the Bert Bell Benefit Ball five times fast.
The Playoff Ball was held ten times, also all times
in Miami, Florida.
Speaker 8 (02:57):
And the irony of it.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
They'd play it after the championship game and before the
Orange Bowl. Guess who was three and zero appearing three
times in the consolation game, The Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
That's said, Wow, I didn't know this history at all.
Here's his stat for you. Stat of the Day, brought
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World Cup, Argentina has scored twelve of their nineteen goals
after the seventy fifth minute, including extra time.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Age seven to seven.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Three DP show operator Tyler sitting by poll question from
our one what are we going with that hour two Dylan, Well.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
We got a few to recap in Best Award Show, Oscars, Grammys,
SP's or other oscars. Is winning that one only forty kay,
you can only pick one to watch on Sunday, Open
Championship Final round or World Cup Final.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Sixty percent say the World Cup.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Yeah, it turns out that Knicks fans should be most
proud of winning the NBA Cup this season over the
sb Okay and this is the real hot one. Better
deli Jewish or Italian? Now, I thought this would be
a little bit closer, but Italian is running away with
it at seventy.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Five or so.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
How about that, Todd.
Speaker 9 (04:29):
I gotta put that in my pipe and smoke it.
Speaker 10 (04:30):
I guess, well, there's a lot of potato Kinish at
any deli, whether it's in the Midwest or northeast Southeast.
Speaker 9 (04:36):
They should have a Kinish.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Who had the first deli? Like I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I don't know if it was an Italian deli or
it was a Jewish Delhi. Outside of New York City
and maybe Los Angeles, You're probably gonna have a lot
of Italian delis.
Speaker 10 (04:53):
Todd, You're right, I'm being too centric to my note
past and my ethnic background in Brooklyn, and I think
that a deli in Brooklyn or Manhattan is what a
deli should be around the country, which obviously it is
not that.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Thank you to uh Catch Deli. Carnegie Deli is not
around anymore, right, God, do you even know?
Speaker 10 (05:15):
I've heard of Cardegie. I don't know if it still
exists or not. I also don't like giving anybody forty
eight dollars for a Corbie sandwich, so I don't go
to some of those places.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Well wait a minute, Catch Deli is famous.
Speaker 10 (05:26):
Yeah, I'll go once in a while, but like, it's
crazy the prices that they charge for my.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Good I just spend once in a while.
Speaker 10 (05:34):
Jerry's Deli, or there was at Jerry's in la where
I got like soup and a sandwich and a drink
and it was like fifty dollars.
Speaker 9 (05:40):
It's just crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Does anything good happen to you?
Speaker 9 (05:45):
I've been through a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Anything positive happened.
Speaker 9 (05:47):
With positive things? We're here, you have.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Two great kids, and you have a great wife. I'm
very blessed, and you got a great job.
Speaker 10 (05:53):
I don't love having a gastro intestinal disease or an
ear infection right now?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Well you don't you don't like that? Oh okay, I tend.
Speaker 9 (06:00):
To dwell on the negative.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Sure they're celebrating the go God. Yes I got that
ear infection.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yes, yes, I thought.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
I don't want to be mean, but that little thing
right there, Italy is probably gonna run the score up
on the Jewish Deli after that.
Speaker 9 (06:16):
Or yeah, but then, have you had your filter fish lately?
Have you had nice piece of filter fish?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
That's terrible, It's terrible.
Speaker 9 (06:24):
Yeah, it is one of the less chicken matza ball soup.
I should have gone with her.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Matza soup is great.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, okay, but when Harry met Sally they have the
famous scene.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Isn't that catch Delhi?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I think it was where the uh Actually I think
that was Rob Reiner's mom who says, I'll have what
she's having, Meg Ryan. I believe that was that cat's
Delhi if memory serves me, Yes, Dylan, if.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
We're including like a like a Jewish bagelry into the
Jewish Deli next, does that sort of slant tilt the
scales a little bit like uh, you know, like a
Barney green grass in New York.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
I don't know if you're familiar.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Isn't there Apollo Apollo bagels. Yeah, that's a that's a
new one. That's a big one. They wait in line.
I can't wait in line for anything. I just can't.
Out of principle. I just like, I'm gonna wait an
out and now a great bagel, but I'm not gonna
wait in line. Yes, Pauly, A couple things. I saw
pop up bagels the other day.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
There are sixty eighteen year old girls standing in line
for pop up bagels.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (07:25):
A couple more clarifications.
Speaker 7 (07:26):
Katz Deli was a location of the scene in Harry
met Sally and Carnegie Deli unfortunately close its mid time
Manhattan location, the Big One December thirty one, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Oh sad, But I somehow know that when mister Jewish
Deli had no clue, that was great.
Speaker 9 (07:43):
I had to look it up and you were right,
kats Is Deli, that's right.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
No, No, Carnegie Deli and Katsus.
Speaker 9 (07:48):
Delhi was there confirming the Harry Metzali like police said.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Okay, I did.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I was curious what life is like in London today.
Let's find out. Brandon calling us for London.
Speaker 11 (08:02):
Hey, Dan, how's it going, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (08:05):
Yeah, So I'm over here for a work trip, and
of course, like any American sports fan, I thought, let
me go check this game out in a London pub
and get the vibes. And man, I'm telling you, we've
all had heartbreak, but Dan, I don't know if we've
ever had national team heartbreak like loved and just had
last night, Like Thomas touchle is getting killed the national
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team head coach over here. There's absolutely no way he's
coming back. Every you know, as soon as you open
up your websites, they're killing him on the news. They're
killing him. His decision to go very defense heavy, especially,
you know, and he had done that whole tournament long,
and they backfired on him in the last minute. And man,
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the pub went from exhilaration to just pure chaos. Police
police siren's going crazy all through the night. Who knows
what was going on. I was looking out something a
hotel window, fear for my life a little bit, but yeah,
it was. I actually felt really bad for him. And
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there's no way they are star players are plan in
this Constellation game. The Premier League starts for like a month.
They're not risking that money for an out third plays game.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Brandon on the scene in London after witnessing the match
in a pub. Uh, Cody, And it'd been nice if
Brandon was from London with the accent and maybe some tears.
We're looking for content here, Cody in Texas. Morning, Cody,
what do you have for me?
Speaker 12 (09:32):
Good morning Dan? Yeah, Man, just as a Cowboys fan,
Misery less company England, I get it, man, I can't
think of anything worse than a third place game. I mean,
you know, to Dylan and all my other hobby enthusiasts
Hammer France for entertainment purposes only on Saturday, and they
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just wanted to comment during Peacock one of the breaks
you had. They were replaying the right Thompson interview from
the last final at the World Cup. Such a great interview.
I encouraged anybody to go check it out. Uh, him
talking about MESSI just kind of, you know, brought it
back up. Just hope you'll have a good weekend.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, thank you, Cody. Yeah. Right Thompson.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Uh, you know when he does a deep dive on
an athlete or a coach, it is I must read
Ron and Grand Rapids.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Hey, Ron, Hey, how's going good?
Speaker 13 (10:29):
Trying to clear up your Imax out of the issue here?
You know, there, Christopher Nolan shot this movie at great
expense with Imax cameras. And when you say there's only
forty some theaters playing it, no, no Imax theaters right,
Imax theaters in film though, Dan, That I think is
the distinction here. It's playing in digital screens all over
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the country starting today. But you might have a digital opportunity.
But did they launch to see it in seventy millimeters
so you can get the interview with Matt Damon?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Well, I think they're encouraging me to see it.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
How Christopher Nolan shot it and wanted to be viewed,
and you know, they said, look, you can have Matt
Damon on the show, but you got to go see
the movie. And then I'm going how many IMAX theaters
And I think there's forty one. I don't know how
many there are in New York, New York City. But yeah,
I said, I'm willing to go see the movie. There
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are other places showing it, they're just not showing it
in the I don't know the technology for imax. There's
seventy millimeters something something something, PAULI.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Yeah, that's exactly right. There's some Imax theaters that can
show a lot of different things. There are only less
than fifty in our country. They could show it in
seventy millimeter film and that's what this is.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, and it looks great and it looks majestic. There's
certain movies that you need to see in the theater.
But I think they said the actual movie, like then
they're shipping it to theaters, the imax one that weighs
like eight hundred pounds, like this was edited like this,
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This was painstakingly put together. And Matt Damon talks about,
you know, he's in a scene where there's twelve.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Hundred extras.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
And then you want to make sure you don't screw
up your portion of that scene because everybody else is
doing stuff, and then you, of course the focal point.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yes, Tom, it.
Speaker 10 (12:28):
Sounds like an honesty just to get the film to
the theater with all these different steps I have to
be taken.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Thank you, Tom. I just got my grown ups three script.
Oh let me see, Oh uh, I got the whole
I don't want the whole script. I think they want
me to read the script, so I understand how my role,
my character art fits in with this. I always say
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to Sandler, just just send me what my lines are,
that's all. So I have the whole script here and
then I'm going to be shooting this in September after
the wedding.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Yes, boy, Dan, you have to read the whole thing
to see what your character build is, what it gets
to getting a millium.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
I think there's only one. Just go with it.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That's the only one where I did need to read
the entire script because I I that in uh Happy
Go More Too that I had, you know, a few
scenes there, so I had to kind of understand. But
I mean, this has grown ups. Three come on, this
just feels like, you know, hey, let's get the gang
back together again and everybody gets a paycheck and we
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go back back to our regular jobs.
Speaker 14 (13:41):
Yes, Marvin, that's my boys, kind of in the same
category you had to delve intoday.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Cap Oh, yeah, yeah, you're right, they're right.
Speaker 9 (13:48):
Like a method actor.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, there was a Denio de Niro type like Daniel D. Patrick.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
You know, I had to forget who I was and
I had to transform myself into a talk show host
sort of a Jerry Springer like, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 14 (14:04):
And my favorite part about that movie is I'm watching
the beginning of it when you're on there and my son,
who's Mede about five or six at a time, both
of the movies.
Speaker 9 (14:13):
What's he doing with that hair?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I love when your son had that list.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Now when I talked to him and he's like, hey, hey,
mister Dan, I go, hey.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Bosf how much the houth coughed? God, he's so nosy.
Speaker 9 (14:29):
I'm really sorry about that.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
Yes, Paul, I do remember during the filming that that's
my boy you. We had to call you Randall Morgan. Yes,
you call you Dan once you're on set.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, once.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I even when I was off camera, I had to
stay in character there just little.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Things, little things, but Grown Ups three.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
All the questions that remain from Grown Ups two will
be answered in Grown Ups three. I didn't get to
see Selma Hayak, Like people say, oh, you were in
a movie, did you get to see And a lot
of times I'll just shoot my scene, but I don't
get to I'd like to shoot my shot, but I
just have to shoot my scene, if you know what
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I mean, And then I don't see anybody.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
But I'd like to see Selma Hayak.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
I mean I end up seeing like Rob Schneider, you know,
I mean, Kevin James be nice to have some eye
candy here. I did see Jessica biel because that was
I just got to the set and Sandman goes, uh, Danny,
you know, you know Jessica Bielle. Sandler thinks I know everybody.
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It's not like she's been on the show. You'd be like, Danny,
you know Jessica Bielle. I go, no, we've never met,
but nice to meet you. And that was I now
pronounce you, Chuck and Larry. Who else do you do that?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (15:50):
He did that with Tom Cruise, although Tom Cruise knew
who I was. But Katie Holmes like Sam NaN's going
to Danny, you know Cruise, I go, well, hey Tom,
you know you know Katie and I go, okay, we're
in a scene together that got caught.
Speaker 13 (16:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
Pauline Selma Hayak fifty nine years old, what a run
of hotness?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah, she looks great.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Wow, Although I do get her mixed up occasionally with
Penelope Cruise. I know, but I do just saying like
the movies that they're in sometimes, what was that the
Woody Allen movie Christina, there were two women.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Vicky Christina Barcelona.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yes, yeah, I like that movie. I don't know how
I got there Barcelona. Yes, yes, I'm not doing.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
I Actually I have an Odyssey Imax update for you, Dan.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Okay, let's wait.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I got to take a break and then we'll get
my Odyssey update.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
It's been an odyssey trying to find a movie.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Thank you, Tom, and we'll talk some soccer coming up
next back after this and The Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2 (17:41):
Stu Holden called both semifinal matches. You can catch him
calling the FIFA World Cup final and done a great job.
Fox Sports lead match analyst and former member of a
United States World Cup team. How would you feel if
you're a fan of England today, Stu.
Speaker 16 (18:00):
Oh Man, Well, first of all, hungover, that's for sure.
You know, they drink if they win, they drink if
they're lose. I think it's the hope that kills you then,
and this English team have been so close now in
all their last major tournaments, semi final of a World
Cup in twenty eighteen, they get to the final of
two straight Euros and then they lose, and then they
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get again to a semifinal and they were five minutes
away and then they ran into Lionel Messi and I
think that's what will hurt the most for this English
the English fans especially this morning, is feeling that they
were so close to finally getting back to another World
Cup final. It's been sixty years and then they are
where they are. And I've loved watching some of the
talk radio and in England this morning as I woke up
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and as you can imagine, all hell is broken loose.
It's the coach's fault, the players, it's this, it's the mentality.
All of these things can be true. But yeah, they
were five minutes away and they were out done by
the greatest player in the world, Danel.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
MESSI give me this strategy.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
It's easy to look back, but in the moment you
were talking about the shell that London was playing or
England was playing, that they were playing not to lose,
it felt like, and you even talked about Messi was
kind of creeping up a little bit more, far more aggressive.
He even looked up at the clock one time, I
think around the eightieth minute or so to say uh oh,
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and then all of a sudden things changed. So help
me understand the strategy of what England was using.
Speaker 16 (19:25):
Yeah, so I think the biggest and most important thing
to realize is when you trade you when you play
not to lose, you invite pressure. But it's more so
you set a mentality within your team. And I'm not
going to sit up there. I haven't played a bad
pass in twelve years since I've been in that booth.
When you're on that field, it's hard and Argentina and
the fans and the players, they create this environment that
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creates real pressure. But when the coach Thomas Tookle makes
a sub and you take off an attacking player right
after you score, and you bring on a defender and
you play with five across the bag, and you sit
with four in front of that, and you have Harry
Kane up there who is so tired, can't press, you
have no outlet, and you're just sitting there and you
basically just said to your team, look, we've got fifteen
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twenty minutes. It wasn't five minutes at that time, they
had twenty five minutes, and they said, we're just going
to try and hold onto this goal. We've got the goal,
and you saw what happened. It was like a snake
slowly constricting its prey and just one bit by bit,
you felt that pressure building. They hit the post. They
hit the post again. Now all of a sudden, if
you're one of those English players, you're retreating close to
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your goal, you're kicking the ball away, you're nervous when
you get it, and you felt that energy and I
think really what happened is that they shook hands with
teams of the past, and they saw ghosts of the past.
Is they're in that situation thinking oh no, we're going
to be the same team that's done this again. We're
not going to do it, and then they didn't, and
then yeah, you made a great point. Messi has an
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incredible ability to find space when there is no space,
and it's amazing to watch him in those situations where
he is like quarterback that's setting up and looking at
different defenses and thinking, okay, where can I be dangerous now?
And he was just hanging out on the right, moving around,
just slowly walking, and then when the ball comes to him,
he makes the game happen. And I saw an English
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pundit say, why didn't they just man mark Messi? Right?
Just stick one guy, you stay with Messi. You don't
think teams have been doing that for twenty five years.
It's not as easy as that. You know, he moves,
he finds space, He pushes you into a position that
he wants you to then go in the other spot.
He's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
But you're right about him walking. He walks a lot.
He lurks, he lingers, he looks harmless and then boom,
it's so quick and he didn't score goals, but you know,
they had two guys on him for most of the match,
and they like they went after him, Like he gets
ruffed up, I think a lot more than you would
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think the goat would get ruffed up. But that center
of gravity that he has, you know, he just kind
of I don't know, wattles or something. Yeah, but I
mean it's fascinating that maybe he doesn't know where somebody's
going to be, but he thinks he knows where somebody's
going to be when he's you know.
Speaker 16 (22:12):
He sees the game in a faster speed than everybody else.
And I think they always say, and I felt this
when I went from MLS to the Premier League, is
once you finally kind of figure out the quality, the tempo,
the speed, the game starts to slow down for you.
I think Messi sees everything on you know, point two
speed compared to what everybody else is seeing everything blurring
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around him. And I love this note is that he
was talking to a young player at some point in
his career, maybe it was Barcelona, and he said to
the player, he said, you run too much and you
feel like you have to be everywhere. He said, sometimes
walking is the best thing you can do because it
makes everybody around you uncomfortable and everything starts moving. That
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you were the one that is in control of your
space and you're playing the game at your speed. Now,
not every player can do that. This is Lionel Messi.
And I did have friends that went to watch him
playing recently in MLS and they said, man, I just
watched the guy walk around for seventy five minutes, and
then for fifteen minutes he scored two goals and had
three assists. And I said, yeah, I mean, what do
you want him to do? You want him to run more?
(23:18):
He's still doing the same effect by running less. The
later he's gone in his career. It's beautiful to watch, honestly.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Should we have the Bronze final? Stu?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I mean no, You imagine if you're playing on it,
if you're Harry Kane and they go, hey, by the way,
we got a consolation, a friendly Imbope, Hey how about Saturday?
You guys want to get geared up for a third
place finish?
Speaker 16 (23:42):
Hey? Nonetheless, they're sending them back down to Miami where
it's one hundred degrees. You've got the French and the
English going back to Miami. No, I think Look, I know,
historically when you look back, it is better to say
you finished third than finishing fourth in a tournament Olympics
of bronze medal is and then no metal is the
fourth place. But I think when it comes to soccer,
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I would rather a several third and fourth place based
on your performance in the group stage and goals scored,
and or just get them together and do a penalty
shootout or something. I think it's I think it's But
at the same time, here we go. You know, this
is France and England. These are two teams that are
licking their wounds pretty badly after some bad semi final
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performances and really have a way to change that the
way that teams were thought about at the end of
this On Saturday, we're.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Talking to Stu Holden, Fox Sports lead analyst and on
the call that'll be a Sunday afternoon on Fox. Their
coverage starts at eleven am Eastern and the match starts
at three eastern Argentina in Spain, this one feels like
first team to score is going to win.
Speaker 16 (24:50):
Yeah. If Spain scored first, I think they went in
the game. This is a team that if you've seen
you saw them play against France. If you score, they
don't sit back like England. They keep playing the way
that they play, which is to keep the ball and
make you run even more. That's the greatest compliment you
can get this Spanish team is that they never felt
in danger at all during that game. When we talk about,
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you know, style of play and tactics, Spain don't have that.
What they have is a cultural identity. They've played this
same formation from five years old up until sixty five
years old. You play that with your friends. Everybody knows
every position. There's a connection, There's triangles across the field
all over and I love just watching them play. It's
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harmonious players moving forward, the other guy drops underneath, and
it's a connective type of tissue approach. Versus on the
other side, you have an Argentine team that plays with
emotion intensity quality obviously with guys like Lionel Messi, Martinez
and Julian Alvarez. But I think Spain will get their
toughest tests they've had all tournament long, because what France
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tried to do was said, hey, you know what we're
going to high press against this Spanish team and then
they couldn't. Argentina can do that, and I think they
will man to man across the field say look, we're
going to stay with each guy. We're going to try
to make life difficult for Spain and not give them
the time to have possession. That's easier and said than done,
by the way, in eighty five ninety degree heat in
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New York where it's going to be really hot, humid,
and the team with the ball I think is going
to have the most success. So I think Spain's going
to end up winning this game.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
USA Soccer. Much has been said, certainly on this program.
Kevin Frasier came on and blasted Alexi Lawless and what
we're doing with kids. I'll give you the opportunity. I
don't know where you kind of weigh in on this,
but how do we become formidable? Because I don't agree
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with Christian Polisic that this is his start. This has
been groundhog Day every four years that we keep saying
this is a start, but we don't get any further
than where we are, so the system needs to be altered.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Correct.
Speaker 16 (27:04):
Yeah, the phrase that cuts me the most, that I
hear toddled around is soccer has been the sport of
the future in this country for the last forty years.
That hurts you know, it hurts us soccer people because
we see the growth off the field as much as
we don't always see it on the field. And I
think again, it's a reminder of seeing England going as
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far as they just did but then losing in a
semi final. They haven't won a World Cup in sixty years.
And I'm not saying that has to be the baseline
for us dan and growth. We're always going to judge
at the very highest level and can we beat the
world to lead? But make no mistake about it, And
you asked me, you know my thoughts on the growth.
I have a ten year old daughter and a six
year old son. I coach my daughter's ten year old
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team and I'm assistant coach, and so now I'm seeing
this for the first time in a different way as
a as a coach, and we have a lot of
issues in our youth development system. Pay to play. I
think we can all agree that it is too expensive
to play the game in this sport. But I always
say to people, how do we fix that? How do
we make the game more affordable? How do we make
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it more accessible? Not enough kids get an opportunity to
play the sport in this country. We don't touch all
of the different communities. We don't have pathways to elevate
the best players at the earliest ages in a fast way.
But look, I see this in La there's not enough
places to play. The coaches. We have really good coaches,
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but they need to be paid to make a living,
so somebody has to pay for that. These kids in
these clubs. My daughter's club, for an example, is a
nonprofit club. The club is not for profit, but yet
the club dues are three four thousand dollars a year.
It's a lot of money when you think about I'm
part of an ownership group of a professional soccer club
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in Spain. Kids dues are four or five hundred euros
for an entire seasons. There's just more opportunities, more coaches,
is more fields. It's a way of life. It is
a cultural way of life. And we just we have
so much competition and we've we've made this You soccer,
and I'm not just talking about soccer, you sports in general.
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I have a we can do an entire podcast on this.
So I'm gonna try to be more concise in the
way I explain this. But they have become commoditized in
a way that it's predatory and it's on the parents.
Every single sport is basketball, football, baseball. You parents are
getting charged so much money for these kids to have
these opportunities. It's no, you're just you're just creating environments
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to get people to pay more money without having real
tangible benefits. So if at a very high level, if
I tried to summarize this, I think what we can
do in the United States is have the elite academies
the top clubs, which we're doing at MLS. We have,
we have pathways for players, but they have to in
many ways pay for the development at the lower levels.
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If you develop a player, if you're a club in Kansas,
Los Angeles, Texas, and you develop a kid Christian Polisic,
you should be paid for that. You should be given
money to support your club, supporting players and developing players.
So I can go on and on and on about this.
We need to do more. We need to make soccer cheaper.
We're on the way, we have growth. Don't get twisted
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and are just our national team performances.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
A lot of fun listening to you guys, You and
John good luck. Are you nervous? Like, how nervous are
you compared to when you played?
Speaker 16 (30:33):
Nothing will replace what it was like to step on
the field and play the game. But my first World
Cup final in twenty eighteen, I had the nerves a
little bit. Now it's just pure excitement. I think this
has become my job, it's become my life. I love
doing it much like you do. You know, I can
hear that and all of your stuff. This is You've
been in media for a long time. I've known and
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listened to you for a long time, and I hope
to stay in this business for a long time. It's
but these are moments to enjoy. How many times you
get to call a World Cup final on home soil?
This is, this is going to be special on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Well, I felt bad for Rebecca Low that you're hosting
the World Cup. Uh you know you're there, Yeah, and
all of a sudden, your country loses in dramatic fashion
and you're being consoled by Zlaton and you know, Terry
Henrie uh Dan.
Speaker 16 (31:22):
I looked down at Rebecca once England's scored. She was
down to my left on a platform and she was
just standing there like this and she couldn't believe that
it was happening. And then I looked down when Argentina's
scored and it was you know, head down, hands and
it's uh, It's what I said to her last night
as we were flying here to New York. I said,
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it's the hope that kills you. It is the hope
that kills you. And this is why we love this
game and we hate this game at the same time.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Thank you for making time, Stu Dan.
Speaker 16 (31:50):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, thank you, Stu Holden, Fox Sports Lead match analyst
and uh he'll be there on Sunday on Fox with
John Strong. And he was a member of the World
Cup team back in twenty ten. All right, well, take
a break, got phone calls coming up. We'll check in
with Mike Trico in about twenty minutes from now.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
He'll join us from the Open Championship.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
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Speaker 2 (32:23):
We spent a little bit of time talking about the
SP's The New York Knicks were the team of the year.
We argue that Indiana Football. Now, I would have given
the sp I can't believe I'm even discussing this, but
I would have given the SB to Team USA men
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and women. But the moment of the year I would
have given that to Jack Hughes. He won the gold medal.
Ognanobi shot didn't win the title. It was unbelievable. Jack
Hughes won the goal.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yes, yes, Dylan, we.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Were talking before about defining moments in sports that weren't
actually to win the title.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Speaking of Temsa Hockey nineteen eighty miracle on ice, everyone
focused on beating the Russians.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Good point.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
We went on to beat Finland to actually win the thing.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yes, because you know, twenty years from now, they'll be
like man O Gananobi had that tip in to win
the Title'll be like no, no one. But you know,
Christian Latner the shot against Kentucky that didn't win the title.
Kurt Gibson that home run was in Game one, Magic
with the skyhook in the garden that didn't win the title.
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David Tyrees catch Plexico Burris won the Super Bowl with
his catch. The Red Sox beat the Yankees. Then they
had to beat the Cardinals. Carlton fist Game six at Fenway.
That was Game six. They lost in Game seven. The
Bill Buckner ball go through the legs play. That was
in Game six of the eighty six Worlds.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yes, Polm.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
When I watched Best Play last night, I really thought
Braylan mullens a yukon the freshman. His shot had a
chance like that was one you didn't see coming from
a freshman.
Speaker 8 (34:11):
I thought he may get his due there. But the
other ones are too big.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, I mean Jack Hughes won the gold medal, right,
lost a tooth won a gold medal, Yes, Dylan, Yes.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
There, Like Marvin said earlier with the Knicks winning Best Team,
is there a little recency bias with the NNOB play
over the Jack Hughes goal.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yes? Yes.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
If Jack Hughes scored that goal a month ago, then
that would be the play of the year. Bam out
of Bio scored eighty three points, and he didn't win
the Best single Game performance eighty three points?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Who won?
Speaker 7 (34:55):
Guess Paul Otani won Best Single Game Performance NLCS Game
four versus the Brewers three home runs, pitched six scoreless innings,
struck out teno.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Okay fair, And then Mike Tyson didn't know that Otani
was a guy. You can hear him as he's walking
off the stage. He's thought, how would he sound?
Speaker 10 (35:19):
I was just joking Dan, by the way, I didn't
know it. I knew with a man, I know the show.
I played for the Dodgers, and I don't know. I
don't appreciate what you're trying to do here.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
No, then you laugh, thank you, thank you keep.
Speaker 10 (35:29):
Your enemies even closer I did.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
How about Bam out of Bio. You don't win the
sp you get in a fight with your former teammate.
And I don't think I ever got caught up in
the SP's where I was like angry that somebody you
know won or somebody didn't win. But just something struck
me about Indiana football, man.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Like that never in my lifetime.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I you know, I was alive when the Nicks won
their two titles prior to this, I never thought I'd
be alive if Indiana was gonna win a national championship
in football. It'd be like if you said, the University
of Massachusetts is gonna win a football title.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah, Paul, I've.
Speaker 8 (36:14):
Thought about this a lot.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
I really think that the Hoosiers winning the national title
undefeated is the most unlikely thing in sports, including the
miracle on ice in the past sixty years.
Speaker 8 (36:29):
I think it's tied with miracle and ice.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Mmmmmm.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
I'm not thinking it's the better moments. But as far
as if I said, this is gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah, but you can buy your way now into a
title picture.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yes you can.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
You can spend money and be in the conversation USA Hockey.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
It's not like you go, We're gonna spend even more money.
Speaker 14 (36:54):
Yes, yes, Mark, But I still think it's impressive because
everybody can spend money. So Michigan, Alabama, Ohio State, Miami
in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
But if you're going to say, like the biggest moment,
it's Jack Hughes won a.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Gold medal with that goal best play, Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Yeah, I mean, like Marvin said, you know, it's a
it is an equal playing field now. But pre nil,
we're not even having this conversation about Indiana winning a title.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Kenny in La Hi, Kenny, what do you have for me?
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Hey, Danny Long lines are the yes, but he's a
The off the field stories were great. Jan Abbott was
dadless with all they highlighted him, the Coast Guard guy,
Steph Curry with the open school. They have no credibility
when it comes to on the field performance. You give
it to Miles Garrett in seventeen Games Over, a guy
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who runs a sub two hour marathon, and he get Brunson.
You get Brunson. I like Brunson.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, but they wanted to give the award to somebody
who was going to be there and somebody you knew, Like, Okay,
it's is it concocted a little bit? Yes, it is,
without getting too deep. And it's in New York by
the way, Uh, Colin in New York, Hi, Colin.
Speaker 17 (38:18):
Hey, Dan, I just saw a commercial Will Ferrell in
it while I was watching Forget Paris. Because you said
it was so great, I just finished it. It's funny
when he said the line I kept a picture of
my right hand and my wallet in high school. That
was funny, right, that's funny. When you know Will Ferrell
is in a commercial, you want to see something funny.
And he was in a chip commercial talking about the
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World Cup.
Speaker 18 (38:41):
He didn't do anything funny. I mean, what a waste
If you have one of the greatest comedic actors of
all time and a commercial and he doesn't do anything funny.
I mean, if you have a sports figure in there
and they don't do anything funny, it's like, that's okay.
But if you have Will Ferrell in there doing one
of the you know, like one of the funniest guys ever,
and he doesn't do anything funny.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
What a way?
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, I haven't seen that Will will be joining us tomorrow.
Oscar and Tennessee High. Oscar, I watched the.
Speaker 19 (39:08):
Show one day back because I watched you guys at
the gym, But I was watching yesterday's show and Tony Reality,
it looked like you picked your next successor live on air.
You have never you have never ever asked anybody on
air to fill in for you, And you're right. He
is probably the most talented guys ever. And if that
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is the case, I am one hundred percent and he
should be the guy that takes over your show.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
All right, Well, thank you, Oscar.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Full disclosure, We were running out of options to fill
in for me. Ross was on vacation and Chris Mannix,
and I said to Paulie, I'm going to put Tony
Reality on the spot and just ask him if he
wants to fill in for me. And then he said yes,
So when I go out for my daughter's wedding, he's
going to do that Thursday and Friday,