104: My Old Lady with Sarah Chalke

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Donald. I'm very excited today.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm very excited today too. Listen, man, hold on before
we get it started and before we get into this.
I'm so happy with all of the press that we're
getting and all of the people that are listening to
us and stuff.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Thank you for listenings of tuning in.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
This is really amazing.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
We certainly weren't expecting it to We just did press
to Australia. We certainly weren't expecting this kind of reaction.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Not at all. And I did some press for Emergence
today and they wanted to talk about the podcast. Yes,
and it was overseas though, was like in the UK
and stuff. I guess are we playing in the UK?
Is this true?

Speaker 1 (00:33):
All over the globe? You can listen to this in
Stod you can listen.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Can you really listen to it?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
And stod Yes, if you have a computer you can
listen to us.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Right as long as you have iHeart. Wherever you get
your podcasts, you can hear us. We're a sponsor our
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Speaker 1 (00:50):
I don't have it. We don't have a sponsor yet
really yet we will, I guess, But I just want
to say that, Red Bull. If you want to sponsor us,
you should, because I just drank a full one and
I am so hyped up right now. I'm so thrilled
about our guest.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
So am I. I'm very excited about who we have
on the show now.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
But first we should sing, Donald, let's get into it.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Six seven, eight stories that show we made about a
bunch of dogs and nurses.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Here's the stories natural, so YadA, YadA, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Now. You might know her as America's favorite Canadian. You
might know her as second Becky. You might know her
as the beautiful blonde that starred on the show Scrubs
for many years. Go ahead, Donald, do you do the intro?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, cats, dogs, whatever you
may be, Please welcome to the show. The one and
only Sarah.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Chaw Sarah, Hi, Hi, Sarah. Don't worry. We'll add thunderous applause.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
It'll sound like you walked into a stadium.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, Dan, can you add thunderous applause? Thank you? All right,
here's Sarah Chalk Hi, Sarah.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
I didn't know whether to talk because I didn't hear
the thunder supplies. I thought maybe I was just getting
a glitch in these fancy headphones. Can I see you guys? Like,
right now, I'm staring at the garage band screen? Can
I make it small so I can see you? Guys?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
All you got to do is click back on zoom.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
So, so Dan, can I make Can I hit the
yellow button and make garage bands small?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I'm just gonna put it out there. You ruined our introduction.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
No, guys, I don't want to edit it out. Dan, listen, no,
list I want now that Sarah's ruined the magic, I
want the fans to know that we've been on We've
been on zoom for a half hour. While Sarah was
getting technical support from edit. Sarah literally had a Sarah
had a technical intervention with our editor. She was like,

(02:57):
how do you start your laptop?

Speaker 5 (02:59):
And yet I've still I felt I've never felt more
proud are you than I do in this moment, Because okay,
I just want to successfully Jean Michelle is gonna edit
this out. Just give me one second. I'm gonna hit
the yellow button in the corner, Dan and minimize garage
band so I can see Zach and Donald.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I do it. Just do it. You don't even have
to ask, I'm worried that Sarah's gonna call Dan for
other technical help in her life. She's gonna be like,
hey Dan, I'm wi FI signal.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
I have dan zmail.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Special.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
How are you, Sarah?

Speaker 5 (03:33):
I'm good, guys. I miss you. I miss you, and
now seeing you on this zoom is making me miss
you more weird.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Where are you quarantining in Canada? I imagine, so I'm quarantining.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
I'm quarantining Canada. My sister and I have decided to
quarantine our families together, so we have communally six children,
three dogs, and a cato.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
How are you doing school? How's school going?

Speaker 5 (03:56):
School is interesting? School is basic. We have children between
the ages of three and sixteen, so we'd only have
so many screens and so much bandwidth to attend different
online classes. So we've been kind of doing some of
that and then some group classes. My sister is a lawyer,
so she's teaching law, so like really right things like,

(04:17):
you know, lessons on the Rights of the Child, the
United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child. Next
week's the Constitution, and I do equally important things like
give them cartoons sides and they audition for cartoons.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
You could give them a scene from Rick and Morty
and you guys could all play parts.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
We have actually we've done we've done some cartoons. We
haven't reached Rick and Morty yet because that's not appropriate
for the four year old, right and as it's sort
of you know, tight quarters, we haven't gotten there yet.
But yeah, it's it's pretty nuts. I mean, we're all
quarantined together. I'm the designated grocery shopper, probably because of
all my OCD tendencies. So I feel like that's the

(04:59):
most harrowing experience in in my life right now, which is, uh,
you know, I go to the grocery store. I have
my own you know, version of Ppe, which is like
rating the drama eight prop spin. So I have like
a tuk and sunglasses and I, you know, just put
my hoodie up and gloves.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
On Canadians, is a hat, It's a hat.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yes, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, what is Sarah?

Speaker 1 (05:26):
If you wouldn't mind translating your canadianisms as we go
through the podcast. There are some non Canadians.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
Listening listen, Yes, the main the main ones really are
to Garbrator parcade and seawall?

Speaker 2 (05:40):
What's a garbaret?

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Oh? The garbage disposal, the.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Garbage disposal, got it?

Speaker 5 (05:44):
Yeah, which happened to be the first thing that broke
when I went when I came to Los Angeles and
the landlord did not understand me.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
At a park is a parkade a parking parking structure?

Speaker 6 (05:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Your Canadians doing very well. You've been studying.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
I'm just guessing. I'm playing a game called guests the
Canadian expression. Are there any other.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Parcade? Seawall?

Speaker 1 (06:07):
What's a seawall? The obvious? And then you have that
thing with the gravy and fries? What's that called? But
that's maybe the teine Okay, I know about poutine that.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
Yeah, it's the gravy and the cheese curds on top
of the of the fries.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
It's just fries, but they take great pride in it
in Canada.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
How is your guys quarantine going?

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Oh it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
That's sorry.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
How much time do you spend Donald.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Out in that closet, Donald tells his family that he's
recording the podcast. Donald's family thinks he records the podcast
every day. And he's in the closet. But meanwhile we do.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
It like the week. Yeah. My wife keeps asking like, Yo,
how come when is the next episode coming out? You
record so many of them.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
You're banking soon.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Things that Donald records like four podcasts a day in there.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Well, I definitely do a lot of press. I'll be like,
I'm doing so much press right now. You set up
you should.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Set up your your your PlayStation in there. Donald.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I just don't know how I get the TV in here.
That's the problem.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
Dan dans d Dan danos he knows Dan could hook
it up. Down do it Dan really quickly. It says,
Zoom would like to record the computer screen. Grant access
to this application in security privacy preferences.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
No, no, no, no, no no, you don't want to record.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
This, Sarah. Dan is outside, he's not He's not there
for your technical needs.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Okay, so let's get into it.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Let's get in the wait. Before we get into the episode, Sarah,
Donald and I have done this a few episodes now,
and now that we have you, we wanted to ask
you tell us about your casting process because, as I remember,
you were coming off of Roseam, you were doing that
particularly unique thing where you had replaced the Becky.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
That was years before.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
It wasn't, Yeah, it was. I was like seventeen eighteen,
nineteen twenty when that happened, so four years before.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
And uh.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
And by the way, I was thinking as well as
I was preparing for this, because Sarah, I do a
lot of research. I get really into this now. By
the way, I found for you Scrubs fans out there
and for us, I found a website called Scrubs Wiki
wiki where it has like everything you ever want to
know about Scrubs. Like I'm like, literally, whoever made that?

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, it doesn't have everything. It doesn't have us, No.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
It doesn't have us, but it has a lot of
It has a lot of insightful information.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
And I feel like I feel like they should not
go to wiki Scrubs wiki.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, but it has like it literally has like these
are the fantasies in the episode. These are the girls
name JD was called. These are It's like all break
broken down. Someone put a lot of work into it. Donald,
give them a shout out.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Shout out to you for putting all that work in.
But we got it from here.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Oh my god, Donald's jealous, all right, listen, Donald, you guys,
before I was thinking about Sarah and I was saying,
is there another example other than Roseanne where they just
replaced the actress and had them play the same character.
And I was bewitched witched? And was he still? Was
he just a different Darren?

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (09:03):
I think they just flipped him out, flipped him out.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Tell just briefly about that, because I thought it's a
very unique thing, and you've told me and Donald, and
I just wanted if you could just talk about what
that was like really quickly because I think it's so interesting.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Yeah. I mean, I was sixteen when I auditioned, and
it was Glenn Quinn, the guy who played my husband Mark.
The audition was with him, and he just made out
with seven girls. We were all dressed exactly the same
and matching pink shirts. On the whole scene was this
like makeout scene where he's like baby baby cam here,
and I'm like, get a job at the gas station,
Get a job at the gas station. It's like baby
baby cam here. And it was literally like every other

(09:38):
actress that was auditioning was like twenty two living in
Los Angeles. I flew in, they flew me in for
the night to go and read, and I just remember
I was sixteen, he was twenty four, and just thinking
he is so handsome. How am I going to remember
one line? And they said, we'll let you know in
a couple of days. And then they called back and
they were like, Okay, come back tomorrow and read with Roseanna.

(10:00):
Then I did. And then Tom Arnold called me at
home a few days later, and he was trying to
feel out whether I was going to leave the show
to go to college, because I was younger then and
still you know, at an age where I would do that.
And Sarah Gilbert at the time had left to go
to Gail and she was flying back to do episodes,
and Lacy had left to go to Vassar, and so

(10:20):
I knew right away that that's what he was asked.
I could tell that's what he was getting at.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
So I was like, oh, you were probably not allowed
to do that, right, So he was sort of tiptoeing around, right.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
Was.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Baby, why don't you call uch? What happened?

Speaker 5 (10:34):
Probably yes? So then I said I was like, no, no, college, gross,
absolutely not. And I knew I would go to college,
but it was the ros Antel was a big opportunity
for me, and I knew that I would.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
You knew you weren't going to lose the job over it,
so you were like college.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
College bombit and I, I just did it on the side,
and so, uh so I got the job. But the
craziest part of the story that I actually I hadn't
remember when we were talking about recently, was they called
me and told me I had the job. And I
went to a party that night. So I'm to this
like little high school in Canada and I get this

(11:05):
phone call that I was going to replace Becky, and
I told a couple people and it spread around our
high school pretty fast. It sounded like a lie. I mean,
it doesn't like I'm going to replace Becky on the
Roseanne Show. The Roseann Show was the number one show
at the time. It sounded fake. And then I get
a call the following week and it was The Roseanne
Show saying we're getting cold feet about recasting Becky, so
we don't know if we're going to do it, so

(11:26):
we're going to hold you for four months. We're going
to give you ten grand to hold you. So, first
of all, I'd never heard of money like ten thousand dollars.
I thought to do nothing, like just to sit here
for four months while you make a decision. And then
the other half of me thought, like, my ass is
grass at high school, Like they're going to tell me
in four months if we're actually going to do this.
So I had to kind of wait.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
You should have brought that money. So you should have
brought that money to school and just fanned it out.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
You got me on hold live.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
For those of you who don't know, this is called
a holding deal, right, this.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Is a holding feat They hold me excuse.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Me when I fanned my face with my holding view.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Totally and then uh, and then I know, and by
the time you converted to Canadian dollars, it was obviously
a whole different situation. So so yes, it was a
crazy It was a crazy experience. I was a baby,
and I had no idea what I was doing, and
I just watched like Roseanne and Lori Metcalf and Sandra
Bernhardt and Sarah Gilbert and John Goodman and Johnny Gilecki

(12:27):
and this like ridiculous list of comedians and it was
kind of in awe and a little bit terrified. And
then after two seasons, they you know, gave every ready
hugs by like I'll see you guys after hiatus, which
is the break that you take between seasons for anyone
listening to that weird term. And uh, then I get

(12:47):
a phone call saying Lisa's coming back to play Becky,
and apparently I said I want to talk to Roseanne
for closure. I don't remember doing that, but barely what
I said, and so I did. And then and then
they called me like six episodes into the following season
and said come back this week. Darlene's getting married in

(13:08):
an episode and can you come down and be Becky?
And I was like it went and he said tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
So Lasi had just Liasy had just changed her mind
and she left.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
They didn't tell me, They just said can you come
back tomorrow? And I said, well, I'm going to college
up here now and I'm doing this movie of the
week where John Ritter, interestingly enough, who played obviously your
dad on Scrubs, I was doing a TV movie with
him up here, and I said, so I can come on.
I can come on Friday night for tape night. So

(13:37):
it was the craziest day. I remember. I wrote an
ocean offee exam at like six point thirty in the morning,
went straight into the scene with this pregnancy belly. I
just remember ripping the pregnancy belly off on the way
to the airport and got to LA and they had
a car waiting for me with hair and makeup in
the car. Oh. I did my hair and makeup on
the way to the live taping, and the taping had
already started and I hadn't seen anyone since I'd been fired,

(13:58):
and they were like, hold these flowers, say this, stand here,
do this. You got to you know the point where
Roseanna would take questions from the audience and somebody said,
why do you keep switching Becky's back and forth? And
she was like, well, it's going to be shocky from
now on. And that's how I found out I had
the job back for the last year and a half
of the show.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Wow. That's insane. Wow, I really think, Sarah, that is
a that is a story that I never heard of
another actor having. That is just if you if you're
I mean, when do you ever see or hear something
like that happening to an actor. That's just insane.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Well, we as we all know, Sarah has the craziest
luck in the history of like just everything happens to
say Sarah.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
We touched on that a bit in an earlier episode.
How you would come in on Monday morning and you
would have a story that was like nothing else we
had ever heard, and it happened every week.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
Honestly, I still feel like sometimes I need to call
you guys, because I'm like you, you would not believe
what just happened to me. Lately it's mostly at the
grocery store. I mostly want to call you after I
leave the grocery store and be like, take a deep
breath and be like Okay, so I get there, the
box bottomself and all the producce drops in the main
aisle where everybody's standing. That's a woman behind me costs

(15:06):
little but in front of me. I mean, that is
every day, right.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
You just couldn't believe that every Monday morning. You would
be like, you are not gonna believe what happened to
me this weekend? And then and then we'd be like yeah, right,
and then it would she would go into a story
that was like that's the most insane thing I've ever heard.
That's just this weekend, right.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
And also it would be so crazy that I'd be like,
there's no way she can make.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
This shit up, No way she could make I mean,
it is incredible how similar I am with Elliott.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Okay, well, let's talk about the audition process.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, talk about That's a good segue into talk about
getting scrubs now, because what was what was the auditioning process?
When I read finally came around to getting callbacks? I
was I was reading with you, so you were were
you the first person cast?

Speaker 5 (15:52):
Doll and I were cast together? My audition process, I
had just moved back, like after the Roseansche, I moved
back to Canada for four years, and then my best
friend had finished film school and she wanted to produce
and I wanted to act. And there's you know, there
was just at the time not as much filming in
Canada as does now, and I creatively was like, Okay,

(16:14):
I'll go back and give ella another try. We had
we got a six month sublet and we moved down.
We didn't know anyone, and we never had any plans.
And so this one night we had plans. We were
going to a show and I get this. I had
two auditions and my you know, for the next day,
and normally I'm so type A. I would have canceled
my plans and spent every second that existed between getting

(16:34):
the sides until going into the audition working on it.
And I was like, you know what, fuck it, I'm
not canceling. You know, on Gen, We're going to go
to the show. And I got home and was midnight,
and my audition was at nine am, and the other
audition was at noon. My Scrubs audition was at nine am.
And I opened the script and I started reading it,
and I swore every page. I was like, fuck, oh shit,

(16:56):
oh my god, this is so good, and every page
I was like, oh shit, this is like the thing
I've ever read. Oh fuck, I want this job so badly.
I want this part so bad. And so by twelve thirty,
I'm like sitting there with having read the script and
with these sides, and I loved the show. I loved
the writing. I love the part so much. So I thought, Okay,
I'll skip the other audition. I won't read that one.

(17:16):
Whatever that is goes in the garbage. And I read
with Debbie and Brett, the cash In directors, at nine
o'clock on a Friday morning, and they said, Okay, can
you come back at three to read with Bill.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
That's a good sign.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
And then one of Jen's and my very very good
friends husbands was in town for work and he had
come over to visit us, and so him and Jen,
Aaron Brindle and Jen read the sides with me, and
so we just kept like running them and then I
went in and auditioned with Bill at three. Auditions were

(17:52):
like ten days later because they were still casting other
people to go to studio and network. So then we
did studio and then network. So there's four auditions, and
I were the same thing.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Every too, see Sarah, because the last two auditions we
were there together. I remember that, and you wore the
same jeans with the big ass belt and it had
a big belt buckle.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
Am I right, Okay, I know the belt you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
I went through a very big belt buckle collecting faith.
So I had this old vintage leather belt and then
I would switch out like a like an old Coca
Cola belt buckle or like. So I did wear not
a lot, but in my memory, I don't know, we
could both. I have no idea which one of us
is right, But in my memory what I wore was
I wore black boots at the heel, black pants and

(18:38):
a tight black tank top because when I first moved
to LA and I would go on these auditions. I
remember I went out for an Aaron Spelling sharing these
like plaid funky bell bottoms that I thought all really
cool in this like vintage T shirt, and I thought
that I'm like super excited about the South. And I
walked in and there were ten girls and they were
all wearing tight black tank tops and tight black pants,

(18:59):
and I thought, Okay, so that's how you do it here,
got it.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
I remember the genes being blue. I do remember them
being I thought they were tight as fuck too. I
remember being like, yeah, Jesus tight, I was the same gene.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
I was the same way, not with the tight jeans,
but I the second I started getting callbacks, I was like,
I'm not washing this. I want my pheromones. I want
my pheromones on it. I'm not jinxing this thing. And
I would get like another callback and be like not
changing not I mean, I was just so towards the end,
I remember I was like doing the same thing I

(19:33):
did that when I would get up, I would sit
in the chair, have a coffee. I would go to
the treadmill do thirty minute. Like I had a whole regiment.
I would listen to the same few songs before I
went to the audition. I like had a ritual. Do
you remember what they were?

Speaker 5 (19:44):
Ah, definitely Madonna.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
One of mine was changed by Blind Melon.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
Oh I love it?

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Does it? How is a melon? Blind? It doesn't make
no sense.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Donald is the name of a very popular band. You
might like their music. Let's circle back to South Ho
was audition process.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
I feel like probably I'm guessing that Babies Got Back
was another one of the songs.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Oh oh wow, that really got you.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Do you want to tell them your Baby Got backstory?

Speaker 5 (20:12):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I was very impressed that you knew I didn't know
that song as well as you knew that song.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
For grad parent event, we had to do a talent
for the parents. And kids got up and played the
violin and the piano, and ten of my girlfriends and
I got up and danced and we had a whole routine.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
The routine you did is a bit It was a
bit sexual. I think that was kind of odd for
the talent show.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Now they were seeing yourself.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
I think all of our parents were probably like i'd
asked them, I should like, what did you think when
your child was up there at grad parent event?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
It seems like a very odd How old were you guys?

Speaker 5 (20:40):
We were in grade twelve, which is Canadian.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Grade, right, so you're about to graduate.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
We were in grade twelve, which is Canadian for twelfth grade.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
So any who sen of my songs the Holden BC
lot and in the quarantine cleanup, I did find my
sides from the auditor Little visitors past might save both
of those. But I remember being in the parking lot
and just like seat back in the car and lying there,
and someone told me to do this. I've never told

(21:10):
anyone this, but to visualize yourself walking into the audition,
visualize the whole thing playing out, and visualize yourself walking
out and it going really well. And so I remember
sitting in my car in the NBC parking lot, closed
my eyes, visualizing the whole thing. And then and then
Donald and I were in there together with some other

(21:31):
Turks and some other Elliots and some other jds, and
we basically all took turks going in and then they
came back out. And then you go back in with
this person and read together and then they peer you
up and you read together, and it was yeah, pretty
in nerve racking.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Let me ask you a question. Did you know any
of the young ladies that were auditioning for your role?
I knew both of the guys that were auditioning for Turk.
I knew And not only did I know them, I
knew them well too, Like I hung out with one
of them and we used to play a lot of
basketball together, and then the other one we did a
bunch of movies together, or we did a movie together.

(22:06):
But I would see him out at the club all
the time.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Was it Denzel?

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I wish it was Denzel? I wish I could be
like Denzel. I got it, yo, d.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Denzel, Denzel, this one's mine.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
I'm sorry, Sorry, buddy, you'll bounce back. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
So was that weird to sit there with kind of
buddies or.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, you know, it was very It was very weird,
and it was It's also one of those things where
it was like, you know, if one of these guys
get it, I'm gonna freaking I'm gonna lose my shit,
you know what I mean. Like, as much as I
love you, guys, and as much as you know I
have root for you, guys, I want this so bad.
I want this so bad I could taste it. Both
very successful have gone on to do other things. I

(22:48):
just really wanted Chris Turk bad.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, well you got it.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
I mean, so when you're sitting in that for people
that are listening, when you're sitting in that position and
you're going to so you're going to network, you don't
have the part yet, and you sign a six year contract.
They call it five plus one, and I was like, well,
but isn't that six years?

Speaker 1 (23:05):
That's a contract lingo for. Don't tell them a six years.
We're going to call it five plus one.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
Yeah, five plus one. So you signed five plus one,
and I feel like that's always such a feeling of
I mean, you're twenty four and you're thinking, wow, until
I'm thirty, and in any other scenario that would kind
of take your breath away. In this case, I was
just like, yes, for the love of God, please a
hundred years of doing this, Like there was no two
seconds of thinking about it. Was like, I'm desperate, and wow,

(23:32):
if it could ever go, I would be grateful for
as many years as it would go for and that
feeling of just complete signing that and so hopeful that
don't happen anyways. Then Bill called me the few hours
lay that day or it was the next day, it
was very soon after the audition was either later that
day or the next day, and I couldn't believe it.
I think we all probably after reading that script kind

(23:53):
of felt like it was really something special and had
the possibility of I mean you obviously you never know,
but the chance to go for it writing so good.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
As you know, Sarah, I did not read the script
before we shot the pilot. I didn't read the script
until the table read and I was like, oh, that's
what happens. Read dude. I didn't know it was a
freaking dope pilot until my agent was like, dude, this
is like a really big pilot.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
But I never I never knew the trivia that you
didn't read the script till the table read.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Dude, I did not know that, remember the Titans. I
didn't know what happened in the script until the table read.
I remember we did the dude. I just listen. I
just knew only my stuff. This was I was a kid,
I was young.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Listen, There would be times when we'd be shooting scrubs
where you know, the whole script wasn't out yet, and
you know, because the writers were behind, so we would
we'd get scenes, but Bill would sort of explain what
was going on, and you know, you shoot out of order.
So we'd be like Monday morning, you know, time to rehearse,
and Donald and I are like standing on a table,
and he'd whisper in my amy, like, yo, yo, why
are we standing on a table? I had no idea

(25:01):
what was happening in the script. All right, We're going
to take a quick break. I'll be right back with
the legendary Sarah Chalker.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
And we're back, and we're back.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Sarah tell us about.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
Really quickly, really quickly. Before I tell you, I need
to tell you. My favorite example of Donald not having
read the scene was during the auditions in the show,
when you were like, I can't remember what sees, but
we're supposed to be auditioning and Neil and Sam Lloyd
are auditioning you and like, I remember you walked in

(25:40):
and you, you know, were like, oh, yeah, I think
I could you read the actual script? You're like, I
think I can, you know, come up with a dance
for that, and you had to come up with a dance,
and you just came up with on the spot. And
you're such a fucking good dancer. You came up with
this unbelievable dance to poison. And then like, my kids
are all obsessed with the fact that it's the Fortnite
dance now and they watch the Fortnite character do it
besides you, and they've all tried to learn it. We've

(26:03):
tried to learn it. I can't learn it.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
I don't think I could even do it again.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Listen. So I just want to say the building off
what Sarah said, that's a perfect example. Sorry Sarah, that
is the best example. Donald hadn't read the script and
everyone loves that dance. People talk about it. It's the
Fortnite dances everywhere. Donald literally showed up and was like,
you want me to do what now? And he had
to and he totally improvised that dance on the spot.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Well, there was a lot of years of of you know,
I was a huge New Audition fan, a huge Bell
Bib Davout fan. I still am a huge New Edition
in Bell Bib Davou fan, and Bobby Brown and Ralph
trans van all of them. Anyway, I had been dancing
like that my whole life, pretty much since I was
like and since ninety two, I was doing dances like that,

(26:45):
and so when they were like, we want you to
dance to poison, in my mind I was like, yeah,
I know, I know some steps that I could do
to that to everybody else, because I remember I was
late that day. Everybody packed the room that day, and
I know the pressure was on me, but I was like,
this is this is something that I do all the time. Now.
There are other times where I didn't prepare when we

(27:06):
were doing the show, and it cost us like hours
of filming.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Oh my god, Donald, I remember I was I was
directing once and Donald had a paragraph of medical jargon,
like a really hard a paragraph you would anyone would
have to practice a lot because it was like fast
medical jargon and like five sentences and I was directing
and just Donald could not get it because he hadn't
even looked at it. It's not something you could do

(27:30):
on the spot. And I remember, you know, when you're
directing a scene, you normally start with the widest shots
and then you start moving into closer and closer angles,
and I was like, Donald, we gotta move on, dude,
don't worry, We'll cut it together. We cut it together.
By the time we got to like an extreme close
up of Donald's face, like eyebrowed a chin, he finally
got it. And if you watch that episode, like Donald
does the whole monologue and a shot that's like this tight,

(27:53):
because that was finally the only time you ever got it.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Those days are over, by the way. Just anybody who's
looking to hire me for any thing, yeah, I am
not like that anymore.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
I'm sure no no casting directors or directors are listening
to our podcast.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
But and what Zach was saying about, you know, getting
the script sometimes, you know, as the season would get
towards the end, and the writers were so taxed trying
to crank out these scripts that were so funny. I
remember one morning we got to work on a Monday morning,
and it was the week that my character had the voiceover,
because each of our characters had a voiceover for one time,

(28:30):
and they didn't have the script out yet, but we
had to start shooting something, and so they said, We're
just going to do a long, kind of steady cam
shot following you through the hallways, and I just want
you to change your face around to go with different
emotions and things you're going to write. So just you know,
you're walking and you're thinking, like a little bit happy
and you're a little bit sad, and then you're thinking

(28:51):
about something. We talk for two hours, just me and
his steady cam.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
I'm like, that's funny that they probably had to eventually
write to your expressions because they were changing, because then
they didn't and the camera didn't want to cut away.
So it's like, okay, wait, she's about it. Got a
second of seriousness and then a smile, so like we
need a one second sentence and then it's something to
smile about.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
Then looking a little nostalgic and all.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Right, should we go into this episode? This is one
of my favorite episodes. This is one of my favorite
episodes of the whole nine years. It really is special,
and I want you to know I haven't seen it
in twenty years and I got goosebumps multiple times watching it.
That's how it really does hold up.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
I was about, there's some really great moments in this show,
in particular with you, Sarah. This this you know, I
looked at this show when I first when we first
did this show, I was like, oh, wow, we all
get a chance to shine here. But this was a
moment I feel like for you and for Judy as well,
where you guys, you guys really crushed this episode. Like
it's really fucking good, like you two alone, you alone,

(29:54):
you and Judy alone. Like really, I don't know what
it is, but you guys start off on a you know,
as adversaries and by the end of it your friends.
And that's for a half an hour. To be able
to tell a story like that's very difficult to start
two people off as enemies, especially when the narrative so
far in the show has been you guys not getting along.
And so, you know, it really is a testament to

(30:17):
how good you are as an actress that you guys
were able to not only bring the funny, but bring
the drama and then also bring the connection so that
the story tracks all the way through. And I just
wanted to give you props on that straight up, right out,
you know the bat. And also it was so early
on in the show too, it was episode four, and
so for us to be able to jump in and

(30:39):
tell such a good story it's really a testament to
how good First of all, Matt tarsis, Holy shit, what
a good writer d.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Matt Tarsus wrote it. And we should also say that
this was the first episode not directed by Adam Bernstein,
and it was the first episode directed by Mark Buckland,
who really added a lot of cool style. You know,
we've spoken about how Adam Bernstein really developed the language,
how the camera moves and scrubs and how you could
do some trick shots, and how there was a lot
of creativity. The camera was a character in the show,

(31:06):
and Mark Bucklan, I think, with this episode, really took
that and ran with it and added a lot of
a new language to the way the show was shot.

Speaker 5 (31:13):
Adam Bernstein, it should be said, directed the Baby's Got
Back video in case anyone out there does.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Not know that, Yes, that's that is that is beautiful
trivia there for you Scrubs fans. Sarah can do the
full dance and knows all the lyrics the Babies Got
Back And coincidentally, was it Sir Mix a Lot? Yes,
it is Sir Mix a Lot music video was directed
by Adam Bernstein. There you go, that's not on your
Scrubs wiki.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Right. Thank you told you wiki wiki we got it
from here.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
Well, first of all, Donald, thank you for saying all
those nice things. I felt the same way about you guys.
Like I was like going, like, wow, Donald, Zach fucking
nailing this episode. And it's like we just started, like
we were a few weeks in. It was that fourth episode,
but it was the third one that we'd shot in
that chunk, you know, separated out from the pilot. And
like I feel like Bill had told us a long
time ago that he didn't he say to the network,

(32:01):
We're going to set it up one out of every
three patients die here and you're kind of waiting the
whole episode to find out who it's going to be,
and then they all die. I feel like he said
that to the network and they said, no, you can
only have one patient die, and he said, no, it's
going to be all three. But we have to do that. Yeah,
we're coming out of the gate right now. We're going
to show the audience that this is what the show is.
And all those years on Scrubs, this one, for me

(32:21):
absolutely is the one that stands out whenever I think
of the show as being the one that really shows
the responsibility that's put on these young, young, young doctors.
I mean, my little sister is in her first year
right now of being a real doctor. What a crazy
time in the world to be doing that. And I

(32:41):
can't believe, for stories, I can't believe what level of
responsibility that they're given right out of the gate. I mean,
I'll be at work on set and I'm on lunch,
and I come back from lunch and she's like, you know,
she's just been doing CPR on someone for thirty minutes,
trying to save them. And I'm like, well, I was
just in here a makeup touch and they took the
same curl and recurled it again to make it curly,

(33:05):
you know, like it just it's such a uh it
takes your breath away. Really, what the decisions young doctors
have to make?

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Do you think your sister was inspired by you? I
mean it's interesting. You know a lot of younger sisters
might be inspired that their older sister was a real doctor.
But because she grew up with you playing this character,
does she think that that inspired her at all?

Speaker 6 (33:25):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (33:25):
I tried to get my I remember I'd say to
my family like, hey, guys, like, did you see. You know,
I was so excited about the show. I like, you've seen.
They were like, well, we t vote it because it's
on the same time as twenty four.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
But that Jack.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
Bauer, what he did? They I feel like, you know,
she's thirteen years younger than me, and I would like
to think that I had that kind of an influence,
but really she came out of the womb a doctor.
I mean, she the stories are crazy me. Yeah, she
was just so interested in medicine from such a young

(33:58):
age and really so calm under pressure, like I remember,
just just responsible. I mean I remember we went on
a road trip and she'd had her license for maybe
two weeks and my dad was like, so she's gonna drive, right,
And I was like, Dad, I've been I've been driving
for thirteen and a half years. He's like, yeah, yeah,
so she's gonna drive right. Like she just is just
a much more responsible human. But it definitely has been

(34:20):
interesting just rewatching a couple, like just last night, rewatching
a couple of the early episodes and thinking them, thinking
about them just in the context of her and this
one in particular, because it's pretty it's pretty unbelievable, as
you know, you see JD and Elliott and Turk and
the pressure that is on them and just all of it,

(34:42):
like trying to figure out, you know, what calls they
can make on their own and when to go for help.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Here's a little bit more scrubs trivia. Your little sister
taught my eighteen year old, when he was probably nine
to ten months at this time, how to walk. It
happened on the third floor of the hospital, right in
between our dressing rooms. That's so crazy crazy. And now

(35:09):
she's an adult and she's taking care of patients. Wow,
is she on the front line right now?

Speaker 5 (35:14):
She is. I think about her mostly every minute.

Speaker 6 (35:18):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (35:18):
We've been pots and pans every night, all of us.
And my three year old has broken a couple measuring
cups because she gets so into it.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
That's very sweet. You do it as like an honor
to the healthcare workers.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
Yeah, so it's it's really cool. Actually, everybody, everybody goes
out on Everybody goes outside at like seven o'clock and
just egs the pots and pans and screams and cheers.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Oh. I like that. I want my neighborhood. I want
my neighborhood to do that. We need a primal scream.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
Oh you start it, It's so cool.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Just segueing back to the show, I want to just
say that you'll hear us at a minute and forty
five seconds, there's this really cool steady cam shot that
really kind of sets up the tone of the show.
You'll hear us talk about. The word steady came a
lot on this and if you don't know what it is,
it's a it's like it's a way of mounting the
camera on an operator's body so that the operator can

(36:11):
move around and the camera just feels like it's floating around,
and it's something that was used extensively on the Scrubs
set as we traveled on the hallways. But I pointed out,
as I was talking about Mark Buckler in the director's style,
how I like this sort of way he's introducing that
this episode is going to be about the three of us,
where the camera starts on me and then it and
then it goes to Sarah and it never it never cuts,

(36:32):
and then it goes by the children and then it
comes up to Donald as he comes into the room.
And I just thought that was kind of an early
example of something that we did ended up doing a
lot of of of sort of moving around the hallways
without cutting a lot.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah. Also, if I don't know if you guys noticed,
but the hospital is really dark in this episode.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
The lights aren't on. Really everything's you know, it's very
very dark in this episode. Not only that, here's another thing.
It's jumping ahead, but this is one of the first
times where Kelso isn't the bad guy on the show. Also,
what I've noticed is that when we're dealing with something
like that's as powerful or as strong as death, it's

(37:13):
us versus the hospital. If you've noticed that, you know
what I mean, it's the cast versus death. And in
this one, Kelso gives is a mentor in this one.
He gives really good advice in this one to JD.
And he's not the obstacle. He's the one that's actually
trying to help solve the problems in this Now, if

(37:35):
you watch other episodes, he's never really like that, you
know what I mean, He's always he's always the bad guy.
This was the first episode, well obviously the first episode
in a run, but this is the first episode that
I can remember where I was like, wow, Kelso was
on board with us this whole time.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Mm hmm. I like what you pointed out too about
the lighting, because traditionally in half hour TV comedy everything's
always bright. There's like this unwritten rule that for it
to be funny, it's out of you bright. And again
just challenging some of the conventions. In this episode, both
John Inwood, the cinematographer, and Mark Buckland did things like
have have it be in dark rooms? You know, having

(38:13):
some of the dramatic moments like in ICU later happened
in you know, at night or at sundown, which I thought,
was I agree, that was something I hadn't I had
noticed that was this is the first time they did that.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah, it carries on throughout the series too.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah. At two twenty six we meet Catherine Juston playing
Missus Tanner. Now, she is such an uzz She has
since passed away, but was such an extraordinary actress. And
I remember she had just done a very high profile
run on the West Wing where that character had passed
away as well, and I remember thinking, well, is that
gonna be odd that she's coming onto art. I mean,

(38:49):
I'm glad she's coming on because she's a wonderful actress,
but having just played someone else who died. I think
I just remember that being in my head like she
had just done such a hope, high profile moment on
West Wing. But then the second I started working with her,
I just felt in awe of her, of her talent,
and that was the furthest thing from my mind.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
It's one of my favorite moments in the episode when
she says, are you a good doctor? And you say
it's probably too soon to tell, And I just feel
like it's such a such an example of how the
show walked that line of like you're just on the
edge of your seat and you're crying and then you're laughing,
and there's a few moments.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Oh, there's a couple of moments that I laughed in
my ass. So when JD goes to the park to
meet up with her, yeah, and he's like, you got
to get your ass back to the hospital. And then
he's like, is that some Moores? And then they cut
away and then they cut back and he's still chastising her,
but now you've got chocolate all on his lips.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah, JD was not going to pass up Amores moment.
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 5 (39:47):
You think he could have gone a big cake.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
JD was not. JD was trying. It was a perfect
JD thing to be like really trying to be taken
seriously with s'mores, chuck let over all of his lips.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
They're one of my favorite laugh out low moments is
when donald is doing.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
The workout video, which is foreshadowing the Bois and dance
a little bit because you're dancing in the very same
room and and a little.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
Bit and some and some sweet moves that I guarantee
you we're not in the eighties workout video. But when
the like she had such energy and warm dude, the
Women League of Women Voters called and they want to
know where to zend your membership.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Sarah tell us about I'm a tell us about I'm
a Chunky Monkey from Funky Town because I remember that,
and I just was like, who wrote that? That is
the most random thing in the world.

Speaker 5 (40:36):
I guess Matt Tarsus or who knows.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
But was the idea that you were just testing out?
Elliott was just testing out that she could say anything
in front of a woman.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
Yes, yes, I think so.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (40:49):
Obviously to Carla's disclay.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
There's a lot of there's a lot of trivia in
this episode, because we we introduced characters that from that
moment on weren't on the show anymore. Like I remember
Layla Lee, she plays the surgeon in the room with
doctor Wynn and Turk.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
She was really good. I had the same reaction. I
was like, what happened to her?

Speaker 2 (41:11):
She was, yeah, so I do know the story. I
remember we were filming and it was a couple of
episodes in and she was going to come back as
my nemesis. And she was saying how she had just
got this part on a television show that was going
to take her out of California, or not out of California,
but out of the Los Angeles area, and she was
going to go do that instead. Now I remember being like,

(41:33):
but what about us, what about what we've got going?
This is so funny, And she was like, you know,
I'm a guest star on this show, but on the
other show I would be a lead. And so she
went and took the other job. To be honest with you,
And now do you remember what the show was. It
was Tremors. Oh okay, it was the syndicated version of Tremors,
And I remember it ran for a while and the
dad from Family Ties I think is on it. I'm

(41:56):
not sure. I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
I just remember watching that scene, which we'll get to
you later in the episode, and you guys had such
a funny banter that that's spoofing of a couple driving together.
And then I had the same thought. I go, oh
that that that young woman was so funny. What happened
to her? And I guess she got her own show
at the time.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
She got well, yeah, she got a job and went
on to do other things.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
To other people of Scrubs lore who were introduced in
this episode seven fifty nine, I very quickly. If you
watched Danny rose Field assistant and obviously became a producer
on the show. He walks by in the park and
he has Tankers.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
On his shoulders.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Shoulders, yeah, and Tankers was what a big bulldog that
he Yeah, Tankers And I just we have to talk
about the legendary Mike Schwartz, who plays his very first appearance,
very first appearance. A lot of times we're watching these
episodes that I forget that some of these people were
introduced so early. So Mike Schwartz was one of the
writers on the show. Very funny a comedy writer, and
he plays the delivery guy, the ups guy, if you will.

(42:54):
That his first they established him giving something to Kelso
and then later he comes and delivers a ton of
bricks to me. He is uh he. We had so
many laughs with that guy.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
Huh oh, constantly doing bits and making us all laugh,
Like you walk by him in the hallway and he'd
be like, what's that, Oh, it's Jake Crew.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
He would do this. He would do this bit that
I don't know why. It was so funny, but he
would go he would pretend to call off to someone
that wasn't there, and he would and he would do
a bit where he was pretending that they were asking
him who made his shirt, and so he'd be reaching
for the tag. He'd be what, oh, hold on to me.
Oh yeah, it's Jay Crew. And it was so stupid,

(43:31):
but he was talking to no one and you would
laugh every single time.

Speaker 5 (43:34):
Every time were Lonely's guy in the world where you
tap him on the shoulder and be like, we ended.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Up putting that in the show.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
He went on to be the was he the drummer
for the for the airband That same episode that we
were talking about ast year.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Yeah, he liked his character. Like later episodes we learned
that his character like speed metal.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Right and and and that his character was a big
time like drug addict and everything like that.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
And it was always I think suff that and he
was very lonely. But that that bit about that was
his bit where you if no one touched him, So
if you ever did graize his shoulder, he would sort
of cuddle his own shoulder because he was so low.
He was so lonely and lacking.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
Of touch, the loneliest guy in the world. And then
Randall Winston is introduced as Death Yes, yeahs.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
And Randall Winston was our line producer on the show.
And uh, for those who don't know, a line producer
is the producer that really is handling the sort of
the daily money of things, really like the guy with
the spreadsheet being like we can afford that, we can't
afford that. And he was a very he was he
is a very tall man. How tall would you say,
is six seven or six six? Yeah? And so he

(44:41):
he was established early on as as Death and run yes,
and some of you are too young to know that
what this joke is about. Connect four, but Connect four
was a was a game from.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
It still is a game still, but I'm.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Saying they didn't have the cheesy ad. She's the ad
in the eighties was a brother and sister playing and
the sister wins and the brother goes pretty sneaky sis.
Remember that, you guys can look it up on YouTube.
And so that's why we were spoofing that old eighties
ad where I go pretty sneaky death.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
But you got to do the lead up to it
is I win where I don't see it right here
diagonally pretty sneaky sis, pretty sneaky Sis.

Speaker 5 (45:31):
And Randall is his main belief was that it's not
a party unless both hands are in the air. So
we had the most incredible rap parties.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
And parties man and Randall and Randall is like some
of the highlights of every part, like the some of
the best party highlights that I've ever experienced involved Randall.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Fortunately for us, the guys ending the money for the
party really loved to party.

Speaker 5 (46:03):
Yeah, we had some good parties.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
I'm sure there's episodes where they were like, you don't
need that set, we're throwing a party.

Speaker 5 (46:12):
Why Johnny Ce's home space looked very sparse because we
needed to go to Voge.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Oh god, we were just talking about that. How Johnny ceed.
They didn't get around to Johnny cees uh partly building
Johnny C's apartment. It was just a hospital set.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
But I think Randall spearheaded. I'm sure the like we
got to we got to go on that crazy, amazing
trip everybody to Vegas. We had to do like they
were able to kind of combine a press event with
the Scrubs wrap party, and so they organized it so
like our whole cap went to Vegas all together.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Things that will never happen ever in ever again.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Right, I doubt any show is taking their whole company
to Vegas to throw a bash. Will the old days?

Speaker 5 (46:53):
Yeah, when we got to shoot a whole season in
the Bahamas with the whole crewis company an episode?

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Sarah Maym stayed and shot a season?

Speaker 5 (47:03):
What is the season?

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Donald? I want to know the sports question, and I
want you to be honest. Yes, did you know what
the quote unquote catch was? Absolutely, it's about it. It's
a famous thing that sports people know about.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Absolutely. So Joe Montana, Yeah, it looked like he couldn't
throw it to anyone in this game. Now, granted I
don't know who who they were playing, so when we're
talking about it in the show, I didn't know who
they were playing. But he found Dwight Clark in the
end zone and it was you know, it's one of
the biggest catches in history. As a matter of fact,

(47:36):
it's a part of a commercial, like a Gatorade commercial
or something like that. And that's how I first heard
about it because I wasn't a big football fan growing up.
I didn't I didn't become a football fan until later
on in life. But yes, I didn't know when we
did the When when they referenced the catch, I knew
exactly what it was.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Okay, good because I didn't know because I don't know
anything about sports. If like everyone who's into sports knows, oh,
the catch, it's called like the catch.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Well, I mean at that time it was called the catch.
I'm sure. Since then they're like Eli Manning and Mario
Manningham they have a you know how he found him
on the you know, running down the it's it's I
didn't know when or where the catch was, but I
had heard of the reference before.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Donald tell us about the bowling thing. Because I was
laughing at this going, what are those what are those pins?

Speaker 5 (48:23):
Like?

Speaker 1 (48:23):
What is that supposed to be in the hospital of
those giant blue things.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
First of all, this this is a testament for how
immature Christopher Turk was. So the kid says to him, Hey,
it's the Catch. Turk turns around, goes, yeah, I watched
The Catch with you, and within fifteen minutes he's bowling
a kid down the hospital hall. Like, how did this
kid convince Like, that's how weak willed Chris Turk is.
How in the hell did this kid convince him to

(48:48):
put him in a wheelchair and push him down the
hall into a bunch of I guess they were recycling bins?

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Is that where they were supposed to being? I think so,
because to me they look like cardboard tubes that someone.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Right, I'm hoping that it was a recycling But like,
how did this kid convince him? And the rest of
the floor, Like Chris Turk walked out the room and
was like, Yo, this is what we're gonna do, all right,
I'm gonna put him in a wheelchair.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
I know, I just started. I know, I just started
as a doctor here, but I'm gonna roll a patient
in a wheelchair down the Hall. If you're a new doctor,
don't try that at work, please.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Well, and that was the great thing about the show
also is that he was held accountable for it, you
know Kelso right away. And this is where Kelso mentors
Turk kind of also like, we're not here to make friends,
We're here to treat these patients. Dude, be a doctor.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah. I wanted to talk about the Park Salary referenced
it already, but I remember feeling really bad at nine
minutes and thirty seconds slamming that little girl's face into
the cake.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
That was hilarious. I wish I could do that to
my kids sometimes.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
It was funny. I mean it was funny on paper
when we got there and she has that cute little
face and I was like, so, you guys really want
me to jam this girl's face cake? And they're like, yeah,
you gotta do it. You can't just like fake it.
You got to do it. And I was like, and
I talked to her. I was like, sweetie, are you
okay with this? And she's like, yeah, sure, it's gonna
be funny. And I was like, all right, here we go.
And I just jammed her head in and it felt
really nice.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Yeah, listen, Sarah can attest to this. She has children
as much as we love our children.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
Oh, sometimes you want to just.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Their face into a cake.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
Especially to be quarantining for the near multiple multiple days months.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
If I had the opportunity, and I knew my wife
wouldn't be pissed off at me for doing it, Rocco's
face would have been slammed into a couple of its birthday.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Cakes, into many a cake.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
I'm just gonna put that out there right now, and.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
I need to go bake a couple of cakes.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
We're gonna go break and we come back. We have
a caller, all right. We're getting good at that whole
break thing, Joelle. We're very lucky here on this show,
Sarah Chalk that we get to take a call or
once an episode. And here she is, what's your what's your?

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Alexis Torres?

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Donald just gave you an Oprah intro. I was looking
for your name, And the good thing about zoom is
it just says it right there. Alexis Torres, plumbley right
there on the bottom ruin the woman's hearing she's in quarantine.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
I'm actually in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania right now.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
My family has a steakhouse nearby called the Glass Lounge.

Speaker 6 (51:38):
Oh. I haven't gone there yet, but it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Will you go there? I want you to tell him
I sent you. If you're in there, If you're in
that area, go.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
To the gods. It's going to be a buddy. It's
going to be a will Oh.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Yeah, not now obviously, but you know when when this
last nightmare is over, go check out the Glass Lounge.

Speaker 6 (51:55):
Yeah. I will definitely go for sure.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Thank you for coming on. And do you have a question?
Doesn't have to be Sarah Chalk focused. It doesn't just
because she's yes.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
You want to we understand.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
Is a human and she probably knows the best person
to talk to it.

Speaker 7 (52:12):
I mean, we'll see, No, just kidding. I have actually
technically question for all of you guys. If you could
switch rolls with anyone in the series, any character, Who
would it be and how would you play their character?
Would it be different than how it was originally played?

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Or that's a very good question. Sarah go first.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
I mean, if it meant that I could have Donald's
dancing skills?

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Was the fantasy? Was that fantasy that Sarah and I
were making out and I was making out with you
because she was you. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
That it starts off where you guys are making out
and then she's like, you fantasized about kissing turk just now,
didn't you?

Speaker 5 (52:50):
And then I made up with Mandy Moore as myself.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
You were Mandy was dressed up as herself. No, Mandy
was just herself and you were dressed up as me.
I think, right, I think that was a really beautiful
moment and television history right there.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
I did make out how to make Out with Judy
in the pilot? Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Yeah, we just watched that were you made out with
the model girl?

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Is that the pilot or is that the second episode?

Speaker 1 (53:10):
That was the second episode?

Speaker 6 (53:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
But so you'd like to be Donald if you could
be anybody else, is what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
Well, if I could, if if I could do that
fucking poison dance or rowdy, that would be pretty low.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Low brush thatch crush. It's a very good question, I guess.
I it's funny because you don't want to pick. You
want to have some screen time, right, you want to
pick one of the sevens, so you're gonna have some
good screen time. I think I would choose Johnny C
just because he had such amazing and they just knew

(53:40):
how to write for him so amazingly well, and he
he was just uh, I don't know. I think that
I just love the all the material they gave Johnny,
So I think that would be a really challenging fun
part to even attempt to Doick.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
Mash walking around in banana hammock.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
That's who I was going to pick. If I could
pick anybody, I guess it would be mash uh if
I could get But like we teased, we used to
make fun of Mashow about running line and everything like that.
But I had such a hard time learning my lines
back then that I probably it probably would have suited
me to play Mash.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
You know, the first thing, the first step to a
solving memorizing your lin style is to actually just do it, or.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
To read the script. Actually that's read the script.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
I love how you're always like, I just have such
a hard time memorizing lives. I'm like, dude, you've been
playing PlayStation in your pressing room.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
That's what you even looked at it? No, yeah, okay, right,
do you have another question?

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Another question We're going to answer a better one.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah, your question sucked. That's what I just said.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
I like you, I.

Speaker 5 (54:40):
Like creative, it was, it was thoughtful.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
I think you're spectacular and I love Harrisburg, but I
think you got a better question than you.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
No, I don't know if now you got.

Speaker 7 (54:53):
To ask what was something that you were super proud
of back then that you did. Maybe it was a
scene or a specific joke or anything like that. But
then now, since you guys are doing the rewatch and
you've seen it, now you're kind of like.

Speaker 6 (55:05):
Oh, that wasn't as good as I remember.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
That's a good question, Sarah. As guests, you have to
go first.

Speaker 5 (55:11):
Jesus, the pressure. I feel like interestingly enough.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Like you're like, I feel like interesting enough. I was
just fucking amazing.

Speaker 6 (55:18):
I mean, I mean, I thought you were amazing.

Speaker 5 (55:20):
Like I on the early stuff, a little bit hard,
harder to watch. I feel like I learned so much
on the show. I feel like I learned so much
from Baill, I learned so much from the rest of
the cast, And I feel like it's so different watching
those early episode Thans eight years later. Certainly with Elliott too,
the character changed a lot. Like in the pilot, we
even did reshoots. She was much harder and much you

(55:42):
know there was she was a bit more of a
batch in the in the in the beginning, and then
and then we actually did a couple of reshoots to
soften her. And then I think, you know, the line
between me and her started to blur. It's a first
part of your question what were you the most proud of?
Certainly interestingly enough, it's this is definitely one of those
episodes like when I think back on the eight years,

(56:03):
this is the first one to pop into my mind
about just the kind of show that that Scrubs was.
And and then in terms of things to do differently, well,
that's just I.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Mean, Sarah, I don't think you could have done everything differently.
I wish that I could go back and have a chin,
because I this episode starts with the least flattering view
of my non existent chin, and in later episodes I
would I would look at the director and be like, bro,
don't shoot me like that. I mean, I'm doing I'm
doing the best I can with what I have, but

(56:37):
that's not the angle I want for myself and Bill.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
I don't know how many listeners know this, but Bill
would like to add things that were actual, real physical
attributes and write them into the show. So characters would
be named by their physical attributes. So like the guy
with the beard is beard for say, because you know,
and so for me, my character, you know, you had
to say lines like short gives me pig face, which

(57:01):
is not untrue, and or there was one where I
had my characters like, oh yeah, chin, hair's back because
I have this mole where three hairs grew out of it.
And so that was actually written into the show. By
the way, my son said to me a few years ago,
completely seriously. He's like, Mama, I have terrible news. And

(57:21):
I said what, and he goes, you're growing a beard.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (57:26):
So so there were definitely moments of the show where
he just had to go gate all in the name
of comedy and so air out my biggest insecurities.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Yeah, and you know, in.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
Terms of how it worked too, like Bill would come
up and he would watch us, and this is not
common for every you know, creator of a show to
come up for every single rehearsal. He would come up
from you know, to the to the set from the
writer's room, and the writer's room was in another wing
of the hospital. He would tweak a lot of stuff.
He would say, I actually don't love this blocking. I
think how it'd had it in my head was X

(57:58):
Y or Z, and and he would he would. He
would tweak our performance in our jokes too, to the
point where, like a lot of times I think actors
like don't like a line read, and I just had
so much respect for him. I'd be like, yeah, just
if you've got some way in your head, just you know,
tell us and we'll do it right.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Yeah, all right, Well, thank you for coming on. Lexais plumb.
Are you gonna give her? Are you gonna give you
the Oprah? Goodbye? Send off as well done.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Let's say goodbye to Alexis Torres plumber.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
You get a car, You get a car, You get.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
A car, Alexis, We cannot give you a car.

Speaker 6 (58:33):
I know it's okay. I can't go anywhere anyway.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Go anywhere, yes, yes, go get a state. When this
is all said and done at the Glass Lounge, all right,
thank you so much, Alexis. Alexis writer you guys at
eleven forty nine. One of my biggest regrets in the
history of Scrubs is that I flinch right before those
bricks fall on me. And I remember Bill being so
disappointed in me because there were like four takes of
it and I flinched every time. But it's pretty tricky

(58:58):
to not flinch when you know, bunch, I know that
they're not real bricks, but it still was noticeably uncomfortable.

Speaker 5 (59:06):
I mean, it'd be pretty hard not to, especially, I
feel like all that shit, like, even if it was
like a major prat fall or something, once you've done
it once, I feel like our best chance out of
the gate is on your first take, because the second
you've done it, once you know what's going to happen.
You know the feeling of it. Maybe you like tweak
something a little bit in your shoulder and then it's
kind of it's around.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
But this was early on in the show, and I
and I and I was I was really loving doing
physical comedy, and I always love physical comedy. You referenced
John Ridder. I mean when I grew up on Three's Company,
and I just thought that John Ridder was the funniest
person I'd ever seen, and I wanted to be like him.
And Bill was giving me lots of love for my
physical comedy, and this was the first moment where he
like called me in the editors room. He's like, dude,

(59:45):
you flinched on every take and I was.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Like, no, you blew it.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
I was like, I let daddy down, fucking blew it.

Speaker 5 (59:53):
The first time I was called up by by Bill
after he left the editing room was you guys will
remember the we had been so lucky to get nominated
for an Emmy and we were going and we were
excited and I got to borrow this fancy dress and
the stylist I never had a stylist before, and she said,
so you need to go get it. And I said, no,

(01:00:19):
I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to
go get a tan. And she said, okay, go get
a spray tan. And so I said, okay. So I
think the Emmys were like on the Sunday and so
on the friday of work.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
It might have been well before that. It might have
been well before that. It might have been like maybe
five days before or something like that, dude, because we
did the whole up.

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
Okay, Okay, So I get to uh, I get to
the tanning booth and it's like that fucking episode of
Friends where Ross becomes a nine instead of for three,
because it keeps spraying stuff at him. He doesn't turn around,
its sprays again. So I get in there and you
watch this little video and you put this cream on
your hands and you got to spin around and do
these weird poses. And I had like negative five minute
to get this done before going to set, and I

(01:01:01):
put a hairnet over my face so that I wouldn't
tan my face, and then I rip that off and
then then keep spraying, and so I get to set
and I'm I'm tanned, and then no.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
I'm say, hold on, now, you were you were full
of No, no, not yet, not yet, because what happens
with this spray ten is it develops over time.

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
And so I was in the makeup chair and my
makeup and we're doing these scenes and then as the
day goes on, I'm just getting like more and more
and more tanned, and instead of actually tanned, it was
just more and more and more orange. And so Bill
comes harder than any special effect we've ever done on
a show, order than the zac's head explode in the
fantasy sequence, is going to be making you look less

(01:01:45):
like an oop umpa you were, like, we're trying to
float filters in front of your face because we can't
color time it and just jack out, like we can't
just wind the knob and take out some of the
color because we keep doing it. You're see with Donald
and then make Donald white.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Dude, I'm gonna say something right now. I remember, I
remember when it happened. I remember you being on set
and I remember saying to you, did you change something?
Did you do your hair different or something like that,
what's so different? And you were like, I remember, ten.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
I remember, just like kids in a in a family,
the three of us, whenever one of us was in trouble,
I was always so happy when it wasn't me, and
you just be like you just be on set, just
kind of bouncing around like shit, somebody's in trouble and
it's not me, and Sarah is freaking orange, so embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
It's like we were laughing time I got the braces
on the inside of my mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
They were laughing about that. When Donald showed up with
bracest and he would like, so Bill, I got braafift
and nobody couldn't even notice.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
The exact same thing.

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
Oh good, So did you just have to go get
and taken out.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Yeah right off, Yeah, dude, yeah, he made me getting
taken out.

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
I got in visil line in like season two. Everybody
made so much fun of me, but I had it.
I would like I had to take him out like
right before take but you're supposed to war like twenty
two to between. Like it was just a disaster.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
I just remember Donald, it was so funny watching him
try to sell the bill that the brace is. Nobody
was gonna notice those braces on the inside of his teeth.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
It's gonna be great. Everybody's gonna love this. Nobody's even
gonna notice.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
And I think it's gonna be great for my It's
gonna be great for my teeth.

Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
I remember I went I went home that night after
the spray tann and I had to scrub every ounce
of my body. I just my face and my body.
I just was like taking to it. And then I
did a movie in Hawaii last year and the person
wanted us to do a spray tan so Lauren Lapis
who plays the lead in the movie, and I was
supposed to have spray tns. I said, I've actually had
a couple of really bad experiences with spray tands. I

(01:03:38):
don't recommend it. I think it's just reacts with me
the bad Orange way. And they're like, no, no, no, we
have like the best people in Hawaii. They're gonna come,
They're gonna do it. You're gonna love it. So I
come down the next morning, the woman comes to how
Telling room, the four sprays you down. I come down
to the hair and makeup trailer and they are freaking out.
They're like, your legs are orange. And then Lauren Lapis
hasn't seen any of this preamble Cheo Rooks, and she's like,

(01:04:02):
who loves the sprint? And they're like, Sarah, quickly go
back at Joe tone, take some salt, scrub, scrub it
all off, get it all off quick. I'm like, okay,
I'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Oh God, So Sarah, I don't think Spray's hands are
for you.

Speaker 5 (01:04:14):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Do you burn when you get into the sun?

Speaker 7 (01:04:18):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:04:18):
He is?

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
She's very pale. Look at her, like how pale she is.

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
It was the other joke on this movie, the reason Hawaii.
I would literally, in between in between scenes, I would
be you know, completely covered up to the point where
we would go out at night and everyone else would
be like uh, chalk, do you have your son screening on?
Like I just I mean, oh, I burn.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Let's talk about this scene. But the dramatic scene, Sarah,
I think your acting is really good here at seventeen
oh three, there's this awesome scene where you and Judy,
where Judy comes to get you and you're at the
soda machine. I think this is a really really good
acting on your part.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Was this Was this the first big monologue for you
on the show?

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
I thought you were gonna say? Was this the first
time that you put in your iPod and listen to
Josh Raiden?

Speaker 6 (01:05:02):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Is that what you did? Or you're giving Josh Raiden?

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Was it Josh Raiden? Or was it? Who was it?

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
I will remember, well, don't don't take away her, don't
take away her. Josh Raiden plugged Donald.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Josh Rayden's gotten enough plugs on this show?

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Is that? Is that? Is that who you used to
get to make your eyes? Uh, to make yourself emotional
in eyes tear up?

Speaker 5 (01:05:22):
Well? I was still young, I mean at that point.
Now you know, as you grow older you have many
more experiences draw from. But I used to use an
iPod and I would play sad music and kind of
get into the mode. I don't know then that scene
was kind of it was very early on. It was enough.
I mean I remember just shooting it and it was
was it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Babies got back. I mean, there's something about the lyrics this.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
You can see if you look very closely, if you
stop freeze the frame, you can see my hips just
kind of undulate. My booty's shaken a little bit. Yeah,
Josh Raiden, let's give a plug man. He he obviously
was a soundtrack to many things. I delivered my children
to josh O Raydon.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Sorry, you go if you're gonna, If you're gonna deliver
your children, and that's coming up, we recommend you use
the musical stylings of Joshua Raidon.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Josh Raidon sang the song at my wedding. Their first
dance was to Josh Raydon and he fucked up the
song tremendously, he did. But I love them, Oh my god.
He didn't even remember the song. I got the video,
which got the video?

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Which which song of it was?

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
It was?

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
It was which song of his?

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
No, it was moon Pours through the Ceiling Tonight and
praises us We lie, And it was perfect for the uh,
for the moment, the rest of my life, cake of
this night. Whoa yeah, and only the heartaches have given
me side they bring me to you, right, bring me

(01:06:49):
to you. Fucked it up the whole He fucked up
the whole song.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
Dude, I wish the opposite of a plug.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
No, it was fun, dude, he did it. Listen. It's
not every day you get somebody like him to one
perform at your wedding, also to do it for free.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
So you know that he also performed at Ellen's wedding.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
I'm sure they paid him. I didn't have to pay
him and for that alone, and we thank you. Josh Raydon,
you are one of my heroes.

Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
Kelly Donald didn't ask me to sing at his wedding.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
By the way, has the worst voice in the world. America.
Let me tell you something, America and all other nations listening,
don't ever let Sarah sing.

Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
Windows will break, photogs.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
These are what's this, what's happening in my house? The
windows going.

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
I was conspicuously absent in the musical episode. And also do.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
You remember when when the when Aryl when Daryl Hannah
and splash says her name. That's what happens when Sarah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
I guess we haven't covered that yet that you guys
didn't ask me to help you record the opening song.
Can you imagine?

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Do you like our song?

Speaker 5 (01:07:55):
I love your song?

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Yeah, Charlie Pooth wrote the music and Donald and I
were Donald and I were the lyriss.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Well we wrote the melody too and then sent it
to him. Well the melody is right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Credit for melody. Melody was us. Charlie Pooth is producer
and music writer, right, and you and I are the lyricists.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
But we can also we also need to give a
little shout out to sitcom shows from back in the day,
like the Jefferson.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Oh yeah, And someone said on Twitter, I thought it
was it was right. It said it's a mix between
the Brady Bunch theme and the Jeffersons theme.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Yeah, I thought that was really perfect. Sarah, do you
find yourself singing our theme song when you're in your
house in quarantine?

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
It's it's you know, I I've actually learned it. I've
got learning the guitar of the ukulelea actually, and I'll
I'll send you guys a clip of me singing and
you you know, I'll leave it in your hands if
you show.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
My girlfriend caught me on the treadmill listening to our
theme song and laughed at me, not with me, at me.

Speaker 5 (01:08:56):
You're proud of it. You're proud of it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Things I noticed about the show, about this show go ahead.
I had no idea that I bopped that hard in
the hallway. And when I say bop, I mean like
I had the straight up. My walk is legendary.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Strut is it like a stress?

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
It's like a struck. But it's like so over the top, dude,
it's so over the top.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
It's like George Jefferson when he would this is.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Exactly like George jeffersons. It's like so heavy. It's like, yo, dude,
why are you going so hard with that?

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
And that was your inspiration? Do you remember who your
inspiration was?

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
It's always Sherman Hemsley, Sherman Hemsley always.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
I wanted to say something about the scene in nineteen
oh seven There's the I had this dramatic scene with
Catherine Juston and it was the first time I ever
had the balls to go to Bill because I thought
I did a good job. And then he showed me
an edit of it, and he had taken out some
of my dramatic pauses. And it was one of the
first times in my acting career where I was like,

(01:09:54):
I was like, I gotta go talk to him, because
he's making me look like a bad actor. He's he's
taking out the pauses, like you know, because you know,
the show had to be cut down to twenty two
minutes or something, and I remember Bill going like, dude,
there's no time. It's twenty two minutes. There's no time
for pauses. There's no time for traumatic pauses. And I
think in the end he put he put a little
bit back, but it was like it was when she goes,
are you okay? And then I go, I'm scared. And

(01:10:17):
then when I saw it edited together for the first time,
I was like, are you okay? I'm scared? And I
was like, oh, that makes me look really bad. And
this is the thing that actors, I'm sure I know
as a director feel all the time. Sometimes you look
and go why did you cut me like that? Like
on the day, I thought I was doing a much
better job. But if you take out that pause and
cut to me like like that I don't look as

(01:10:38):
good as I want to be. You know, I'm sure
you guys had that feeling throughout the show sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Well yeah, you know, you we would tell jokes sometimes
and jokes wouldn't make the show, and you know, we'd
have moments where we thought, you know, we were crushing
it and then only to see you know, the editors
and Bill decided to use the reaction shot instead of
your actual you know, instead of your before gone right
or the joke's just completely gone right.

Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
Yeah, I love that. I love that scene that you're
talking about, Zac. It was one of my favorite ones
in the in the episode when you know, she tells
you to go and live your life and you're like,
you know, uh huh uh, I'm just turning on a
few things and you go up to the thing and
you're kind of pretending.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
I don't want to go. And then it's always you know,
my father, who passed away recently, always always would reference
this moment in Scrubs that he thought it was so
incredibly moving, the idea of a of an older woman
comforting a young doctor about death, and and he said,
I just you know, he was He's like, I never
seen anything like that before and and and I just

(01:11:39):
watching it this time, I just remember how much he
would always reference that because it was so beautiful, that
that sentiment that the JD doesn't know how to deal
with death yet, but here's this older woman who's ready
to go and she's the one comforting him about it.
I just thought that was beautifully written.

Speaker 5 (01:11:53):
Somehow managed to also be funny in parts. That was
what I couldn't believe, Like when she's just like everybody dies,
No they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Right, No, they don't right. The Scheiffel to the Miffel Tower.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
The Mindful Tower, the Miffel Tower, about the Minfele Tower.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
That being said, the whole list thing, especially with the
way things are right now, that whole list thing got
me to thinking, you know what I mean, I don't
have any regrets in my life or anything like that,
but there are certain things that I still want to do,
you know what I mean. And uh, you know, we're
in quarantine and it doesn't seem like, you know, it

(01:12:28):
doesn't feel like we're going to get out of this
anytime soon, you know what I mean. Not to sound
more but or dark or anything like that, but when
JD brings up the list and she's like, I've done
all of those things already. It really made me think, like, well,
you know, when this is over, I'm gonna make sure
that I get out and I live a lot more
than I did before, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
And well, that's interesting. I mean, this quarantine thing, I agree.
I think it gives you perspective. And I've just been
feeling focusing on gratitude a lot because I just think that,
like when all this is so insane, and it makes
you focus on how lucky we are and what we
want to appreciate in life. You know, they just the
simple things like being able to go to a restaurant

(01:13:11):
with friends and laugh and have a drink. And I
don't know, it's interesting you say that. So have you
made a list on or are you making lists of things
you want to know?

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
I'm going to start a list. I know. A lot
of it has to do with my kids and making
sure that they get to experience a lot of the
things that I didn't experience when I was a kid,
when I was young, you know what I mean. I
try to do that now, but I feel like maybe
I need to go a little bit overboard and then
you know, have my wife tell me we need to
dial it back a little bit. We're going too far,

(01:13:40):
you know what I mean? Like, Uh, there's certain things
that my kids have never done that and that's because
I don't do it, you know what I mean? And
I don't want to do that to them. I want
them to have that experience in that adventure.

Speaker 5 (01:13:53):
I feel like I feel like it's it's also because
we don't know when this is over. We don't know
how long we're going to be doing for and it
doesn't seem to be short. Obviously it sounds like potentill
we have a vaccine. Who knows how long this chunk
of our lives is and what it looks like and
whether it opens back up. I feel like as impossible
it is, it is and has trite as it's like
trying to you in the moment and trying to figure

(01:14:14):
out what like the rare times with them that I
have now that are so hard to get in the
like in the every day think about how much time
you spend in the car driving them to activities, doing whatever,
and when work takes over and that becomes so all consuming,
and I feel like as much of it is that
we can squeeze out just here, like just sitting with them.

(01:14:35):
Like I was reading something the other day saying, you know,
people are worried about their kids getting behind in education.
What if they actually came out ahead? And I thought
that was such a cool way to look at it, Like, kids,
this is going to form who they are and who
they become. And what if they actually start to appreciate
the small things that we're starting to appreciate right now
instead of just the grind of everyday life. And what
if they actually learn to do meaningful chores at home

(01:14:58):
and learn the value in that and learn how to
you know, actually be I hear.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
You know. The only thing I worry about with all
of that is there's social skills when this is all
said and done, you know what I mean, That's the
only thing I worry about. But yeah, you know, we
got this kid reading, you know, she's on site words
and we're trying to get her to read and stuff
like that, and we're working with math and all of
that stuff. But at the end of the day, it's like,
you know, there's something special about being around other children

(01:15:28):
their age to interact with, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:15:31):
It's so true. I know my heartbreaks for only kids.
Who are you know, having to go through this right
now with no kids to play with. It's really hard.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
The show ends with Hallelujah by John Cale, which has
been covered by lots of folks. I thought this was
a particularly beautiful rendition, and again I think it was
the first real time I noticed the show ending with
a sweet, somber, uplifting song in a beautiful way, cutting
to the montage, and I got I wrote down, I

(01:16:00):
got goosebumps at twenty fourteen when we all three whip
our heads around, yeah, revealing that we've all it's not
one in three in this case. The odds have fallen,
so we've lost three of three. I got goosebumps up
and down my arms at that moment. I thought that
was really beautifully done.

Speaker 5 (01:16:17):
Absolutely so shocking when that happens, right Like, as a viewer,
I think you're not expecting that. You're kind of waiting
for that statistic that they set up at the beginning.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
And then we end the show, And this is what
I was saying a few episodes before, Sarah, you weren't
here for this, but it's really important for doctors to
be able to pick themselves back up after something like
this happens. And you know, it's also very important that
this happens to these young doctors at an early time,
so they do know how to set up boundaries and

(01:16:46):
do know how to set up balls to help them
be professional. It's tragic that it has to be death
that does it, but yeah, you know, to lose someone
you care about and then show up the next day
at that job, it's very difficult. I can't I can't
imagine it. I find it difficult to watch and it's
very difficult to experience I would imagine.

Speaker 5 (01:17:06):
And that was that, and that piece of it so
cool that the show kind of owes that right after
with all, you know, Turt going back and introducing himself
to the patient, Jad taking the time to go be
on the grass, Elliot kind of figuring out how to
take charge. And that was kind of cool too. Johnny's
conversation with Elliott when he says, you made the right call,
you did, and she says, I know, and I don't.

(01:17:26):
I didn't remember that. And when I saw that, I
you know, just sort of having her take that confident position.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Yeah, that was really powerful. I was really powerful I thought, Okay, listen, guys,
we did it. We did it. I'm so glad Sarah
we had you because we wanted to have you on
this one, because we all keep saying, this was a
very special episode for all of us, and thank you
for for coming on. And I hope you know we're
having fun doing this. I hope that Donald and I
both hope that you'll come as as as many times

(01:17:53):
as you're willing to and and rewatch the show with us.

Speaker 5 (01:17:56):
I loved it. It was so fun, so fun to do.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
So is that a yes?

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Was that a yes? That was a very non Commis
that is that?

Speaker 5 (01:18:03):
Is? I'm in you? Just you can know where I am.
Guys not doing anything?

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
How do you say? How do you say goodbye? And Canadians?

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
I think it's goodbye? Wait? Is it something like? That's French?

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
That's well, you know there's a lot of them speak
French up there.

Speaker 5 (01:18:18):
Donald, that's bilingual country here, guys?

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Yes? On that note? Donald, if you'll lead us in song?

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
Why god? Donald? Why can't I lead us in song?

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Sorry? You can lead us in song? We will now,
Donald Countison, Please one two? I prefer when you count
down like DeBie.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Okay, you got big dreams.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
You take the monologue. This time.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Fame costs, and right here is where you start paying sweat.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Six stories about show we made about a bunch of.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
Is a stormy next all should know?

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
So gather rad you here, hop gather round you here Hops,
but we watch your wiz and

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