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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This Gentleman Ben podcast brought to you by Hello Fresh
The Experts and Tastes that kiwis love.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Good morning, Great to see you again.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah, you look more recently.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Look at you, guys, you barely age.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Actually, oh, that's very cind of you to say.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
No, you barely You're still young, barely A being's.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Dis here having good life crisis. So that's what I'm doing.
I don't know, maybe I am. Did you have a
middle life crisis so to speak?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
No?
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Will you never recognize your own The fact that you
said you are having probably as an indication you're not.
Speaker 5 (00:35):
Paul. It's lovely to have you back. The Traders. New
Zealand is back on last night. Fantastic first season. Our
friend Sam ended up taking it out.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
He was a great winner.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, I noticed the season less probably well known faces
to start off. I'm sure we'll get to know them
across the series.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
And that's a good thing about it. That's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
The American franchise only have celebrities. The British franchise never
have celebrity. So we went half and half for the
first the first season. But I thought it was a
bad idea because you if You've got a whole lot
of strangers getting to know each other. It's great that
the audience get to know them at the same time.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
It's a wonderful social experiment.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
It doesn't a social expend. That's what it is. It's
a social experiment.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, that's one filmed in South Canterbury at the foot
of Mount Horrible. Now why is it called Mount Horrible?
Do we know why?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
And that would have been something I could have found
out a legit play. It's a legit place. Well, it's
a legit mountain.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Mount Horrible. It's very New Zealand. Like we wouldn't come
out and say it's Mount Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
We're not there.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Someone says this is nice of you, thinks so I
thought it was horrible anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Tall poppy chopping mountains. Exactly the thing I.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Wonder, because you know, you've been everywhere over the last
few days. Everyone wants to talk to you. They send
out alerts, balling rees on news dogs. They'd been our
tune and do they So there's still so much demand
for you. But you won't come back full time?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
No, But maybe that's why you know less is more.
I wouldn't go back full time but it is surprising.
But I think it is that it's that whole thing
with the with the house. I was watching Million dollar
Listing New York the other day, because that's what retired
people do.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Well.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Intelligent retired people watch that. Stupid retired people watch tipping point.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Anyway, I was watching million dollar listing. Oh did you
see that one time?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
No?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
So, so I was watching million dollars in New York
and the guy said he got this new apartment listing,
and he said, so what we do will invite everyone
but just to a party there and everyone will say,
I is it available? And it was on the market,
but no, it's not. No, it's not available. Is it
going to come up? Is it going to come on
the market? Ah, you know it might, but you know
you couldn't afford it anyway, and they sold it straight
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away just based on So that's sort.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Of me, really, isn't it, Henry?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Now?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Oh, we're not entirely. I wonder if we'll ever find out.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Do you know what half of the people listening now
are thinking, Oh, God.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
To be happy.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I've never heard from put up your own paywall? Haven't
you like pay more if you want more? Of poor Henry.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
You see, I'm liking this.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I love it when you because you spend a lot
of time overseas, and I love it when you come
back and you give us your little snapshot state of
the nation.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Because on a lot of time in America as well.
Now America. Interesting debate we've been talking about as well
on Friday between the two.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Where do you stand?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Oh geez, I don't know. I feel like I stand
with either of them. So many people it feels very
much like surely there'd be some other options.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, there were other options.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Were they any good?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Well, yeah, okay. So here's the thing. I mean, who
knows if Biden's going to make it to the finish line.
The only reason, the only way you can get rid
of Biden without him, you know, throwing the towel in,
the only way you can actually do it is to
use the Amendment, which would then make Kamala Harris the
president of the United States. She's even less liked than
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Joe Biden. She's absolutely bloody hopeless. On paper, She's one
of those people on paper looks great, you'd employ her
unless you met her.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Really, yea better on paper?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Better on the dream was to probably roll her out.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Originally maybe originally, you know who they should have chosen,
mayor Peteah Great, you know, young, intelligent. He would have
been a great running mate for Joe Biden. And he's homosexual,
so you wouldn't have as many people saying, oh, why
haven't you got a woman?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Do you think that's a hamstring for them though, given
that he's homosexual in America?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Do you know? I don't think so now. It would
have been a decade ago, but I don't think so now.
Maybe I'm overestimating them, but he would be He would
have been a brilliant running mate. But they're really stuck now,
I mean, and your point. You know, you've got what
three hundred and forty million people, and it's down to
two old guys, one of them barking mad and the
other one clinically dead. When I said clinically dead, it's
(04:59):
almost like weak end.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Bernie's alive. So back here, how do you think things
are back here when you come back to New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Okay, if you'd asked me that yesterday, I would have
answered differently. But you've asked me today and I have
just traveled across town in rush hour. I mean we
joke about cones. Honest to god, that's the business to
be in, isn't.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It's just.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
It's not horrible if you're in the market for a
myth though good access.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
To me, that's an opportunity for Smith and Cover and
the media.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Very sad that news HUBBS is coming to an end.
I know you would have a We've got an affiliation
with news Hub over the years.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Are you surprised, No, I'm surprised that people are surprised.
You know why why would people be surprised. I mean
I suggested that they closed news Hub about five years
ago to save the organization. I said, you've got to
shut it down. I mean, why are people surprised. Within
the last week, one of my neighbors in Palm Springs
sent a photograph of my swimming pool and the sky
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above it with a rocket launching. Now, you can't expect
to see that and have everything else stay the same.
Shut down, what isn't working and get with the times.
It's just they've waited too long to do it. And
it's exactly the same with TV and Z. You know
they're in crisis talks now. I mean, seriously, that's how
bad their management is for the last debt.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Oh look, you've got me on a hobby.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
For the last bloody decade, society has been telling them
that the way they live is changing, the way they
you know, the way they consume media is changing. They've
done nothing about it, but moan, Oh god, it's hard
to get people to watch the news now, you know. Yeah,
And at the same time they're feeding people the news
by their phone twenty four to seven. You know, did
they think that all those people were going to just
(06:41):
read it but then want to hear it again and
again and again?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Idiots?
Speaker 5 (06:45):
So are you glad you're no longer doing that news
on TV?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
You see, there's frustration.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
You need a podcast. That's what everyone's doing now exactly.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
That's why I don't do it.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Do you guys do a pot? Of course you do.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Wow, the radio show goes gets made into a podcast.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Oh that's different. Yeah, no, no skin off your nose exactly.
Do you get any extra money for it?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I don't think anyone listens to But that's all right.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And there's a rub with podcasts.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
And even if they do, how do you monetize it?
And I know some people do, but it's the coins
it's coins in the palm of your hand.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Are you because radios so it kind of stuck in there.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
It's weird, a weird. Radio has been a survivor. I
mean you look at Netflix. They're in real trouble. They've
sort of bounced back because they change their business model.
But it is weird the things that survive, and radio
is one of those, so new things that have come
along subsequent to radio. You remember that song video killed
the radio start, No, it didn't actually video killed itself.
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And so there are a few things that are survivors,
and it's under threat, but still people like a little bit.
They want to hear someone tell them the time.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Weird, weird. You shouldn't say that media, Yeah you are,
hang okay with that, and Ben tells the time but
not too bad, not too bad.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
But see, people like that. If it was a it
would never get it wrong. Now it will start to
recognize that people like it to be wrong sometimes.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, just quickly, your daughter, Bellas, there have been twins,
Is that right now?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Twins?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Did you predict it to.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Predict the twins?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yes? Yeah, I just thought I'm looking at you now, Bella.
There's more than one and they're either having an adult or.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Please tell me.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Didn't tell her that she's good like that? So she's
in the hospital now and almost.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
What are you? Popper?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Granddad?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Granddad?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Granddad?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
It's well they're all Popper is quite conservative too, but no,
I quite like granddad.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Well, I've got two grandchildren. Really, look at me, for
God's sake, John, you.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Don't look granddad material.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
No, I don't act granddad material. But if you didn't
know me, and you just looked at me and think,
look at that.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Sorry old you.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Come on here?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
You know you sprightly, you got a little.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I could barely open the door.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
The door you're not, Joe Biden?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Just as heavy are you?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Are you hands on? Do you like cuddles with babies.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Or I'm not fussed on babies once they've got little personalities.
But that's why Jesus made parents to look after them.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
When they're really left.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Oh, Henry, I know you've got a lot of interviews.
No love, catch I won't be as good as it
traders catch it. It's a great show. You can catch
it on three and three now as well. Love you
to see you again.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Brilliant lovely to come in here. Guys see you th