August 30, 2024 • 33 mins
We've got a special guest in our podcast feed today! We're excited to share with you Ben's brand new podcast "When I Grow Up". If you like what you hear, follow the podcast on iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts.
About the show:
This week Jazz Thornton, a renowned mental health advocate and TikTok sensation, joins Sienna and Ben to share her inspiring journey and offer valuable advice to young people facing challenges in today's world.
In this episode, they delve into:
- Jazz's mental health journey: Her personal experiences, how she found hope, and the steps you can take when you're feeling down.
- The impact of social media: Jazz's insights on the positives and pitfalls of social media, especially for young people.
- A royal mix-up: The surprising story of how Jazz almost unintentionally missed an opportunity to meet Prince Harry and Meghan Markle.
About The Show:
Sienna Boyce is 13 years old and constantly tells her Dad, Ben Boyce, what she wants to be when she grows up – an actor, scientist, rugby player, singer, chef or politician.
Each episode of ‘When I Grow Up’ aims to showcase inspirational females from around Aotearoa and shine a light on them, what it takes to do their job and learn about their story of how they got to where they are so that Sienna can help make up her mind.
This is a podcast to help the teenager in your life dream big.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Cuda, Welcome to a very special episode of our podcasts. Yeah,
promoting another podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's podcast inception.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Right now now, I feel like I had no choice
to plug this one because my daughter Siena is in
here with us right now.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hello Siena. Hello, Now what's going on? What's happening?
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Well, I've got a brand new podcast called When I
Grow Up.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You've got a podcast, got a bloody podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, podcast. You're going to hear the first episode of
the podcast. But why we we plug? I mean, I
guess I'm on the podcast with you, But what are
you created? You need to plug the podcast?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Well all the free stuff and skeits have done for
you guys over there.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah enough child labor though you didn't even think about
when the child grow You know, when the children grow
up from those factories, they start wanting money and they
start learning about rights and human rights. Okay, so this
is if this is the least we can do.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Yeah, you're right, it's the least you can do.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Give me one once this little plug's done with square.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, so this is the first episode of the podcast.
Actually really rewarding podcasts to be part of seeing a
you host it with myself, and it's explained the idea
behind the podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Well, it's very hard to know what you want to
be when you grow up. So on the podcast, we're
going to talk to inspirational females to hear this story
and inspire young people. It's great to listen with parents
and with your kids.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Okay, right, who we talk? What big bangers are we talking?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
What's some of the guests we've talked.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
To so far?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Okay, we're ready for this list?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Eliza McCartney, pol Voter, Yep, Poul Voter, Lucy Lawless, actor,
Nano girl, science educator, engineer, actually, Jazz Thornton no.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Jas Thornton mental health advocations.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
She's actually the first episode of the podcast you're about
to hear shortly.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yes, Karen Walker and Grayson Wiki.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Karen Walker fashion designer as well, and the netballer Grace
and Wiki. Well that sounds like a great line up.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Where are the men?
Speaker 5 (01:49):
We're maybe two?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's inspirational females, so inspiring your generation.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Already had this, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, I mind you.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
There's a lot of a lot of mean with podcasts
out there on there, so yeah, it's a.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Really cool thing to do if you listen with your
kids as well.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Thirty minutes long.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, so good for like shorter attention span. So he's
the first episode with Jazz Thorn and a lot of
great stuff from Jazz. She is amazing. Her great stuff
are dealing with mental health, with anxiety and also social media,
whether it's good or bad. And it's interesting coming from
someone who's got millions and millions of views on social media.
What her thoughts are?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Now? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Can I can I say something about Jess Thorn?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I love her, love her dearly.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
But the other day we.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Ran into a cross the road at the cafe and
my coffee order it comes in a tiny little cup
scene it it's called a piccolo. Okay, it's very mockable
hockable drinking. I hold it like this and she's like
that is the tiniest little cup of coffee and she boom.
Photo taken. But I didn't even consent to the photo.
But I was like, don't mock me on social media
for that. I checked my phones. I'm going to bed.
Last time I'm tagged in. She's like, look at this
(02:53):
tiny public shaming of my tiny little coffee here now,
and I see you'd see you see that was for
your personal collection that the people in America are blowing
up about this. Yeah, I've never seen such a tiny
cup of coffee.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Oh, John's got a tiny puffy. We've got a tiny podcasts.
I would love you to listen till you can catch
up with it every week on iHeartRadio where you get
your podcast. It's called When I.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Grow Up the Heads podcast network mine never seeing it
and this is my dadmin.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Hi, and when I grow.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Up, I want to be a TikTok start right, or a.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Sports player Okay, hang on, yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Even a fashion designer. Actually maybe in all.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Player Okay, okay, slow down. Maybe we should talk to
some amazing females who inspire you and who.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
You want to be, like, yeah, and we can find
out what they did to get where they are.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yes, and there's do it as a TV show.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
No, Dad, only old people watch TV. They do it
as a podcast.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I guess that worksnop.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
This is when I grow Up.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Today's guest is Jazz Thornton. As you're here, Jazz does
incredible things to help people with mental health, especially young people.
She shares her inspiring story on the podcast Jazz is awesome.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
She's great, I'd say, seeing her like, she's got lots
of riz She's.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Never said that. Every time you see someone call you
think something's for you.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Oh, they got lots of risks.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
She tells a pin that there's lots of risk because you.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Think your work so much.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I love saying because it winds you up so much.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Seriously, though, Jairs is amazing. It was really cool to
find out some tips for mental health for teens, for pearents,
you know, actually for everyone.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
And also some good ways when you're dealing with anxiety
and when you're feeling low jeers.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
At one point on the podcast, you'll hear she even
got me crying with one story, Dad, You crying with.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Every movie, every animated movie, joy story and turned out.
And that's if you don't fall asleep because they're all
I care.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Okay, okay, all right, there's nothing about me watching the movies. Okay, yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Jazz is also a TikTok style with millions of followers,
and I found it really interesting asking her to answer
to whether social media is good or bad.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, and the of the block button. It is quite interesting, right,
And she.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Also hangs out with famous people. We find out how
she almost missed the chance to hang out with Prince
Harry and.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Mega Marco, and now Jazz got to hang out with me.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So that's great, isn't that?
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Yeah, that's not quite as cool.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Told me, I, have you enjoyed our chat as much
as we did?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It really falled me the hope and as you did,
I'd be pretty proud if you ended up helping people
like Jess.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Does hey, dad, today, when I grow up, I want
to be someone who helps people like Jazz thoughtan.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Okay, well, shit, it's I don't know if it's awkwod
or not, but Jess is with us right now as
you say that.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, j it's so nice to meet you. I've been
such a big fan for a while now.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Oh, it's so nice to meet you. I think that
was the best introduction I've ever had. Oh yeah, I
love that.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I for you on the spot. Yes, yeah, What what
do you admire about Jazz? Then? Why would you want
to be someone like Jess?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Well, first of all, I love your tektik, I love
your dance.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Love it when I do TikTok, and do I get involved?
You're embarrassing me.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Oh, okay, that's just because you're you.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Okay, fine, But I also love.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
That jazz helps people so many, like so many people
my age, and by sharing a story and giving people hope, now, jazz,
you help people with their mental health. And with doing
this work, you've got to experience some amazing things, making movies,
meeting famous celebrities and royalty, writing books, and even speaking
of the un Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
But I guess to get to where you are now, Jazz,
it was such a journey for you, you know, going
through some horrible, horrible times. And that's to put it lightly.
How do you feel when you look back at that
and you go, well, here I am now, But I
had to get through that to get to where I
am now.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Absolutely, And I think I often find myself kind of
looking back at it and being like, man, what I
like trade all of that bad stuff so that I
could just have like a normal life. But every day
that someone comes up to me and they're like, oh,
your story's helped me so much or like it and
allowed me to see hope to stay another day, I'm like, oh,
you know what, Actually, all of that stuff, as much
as it sucked, and it was so hard.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I wouldn't take it.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
I wouldn't change it because I now get to do
all of these things and just impact people and be
able to share my story, which.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Is twelve year old Jaz would have never thought was possible.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah, so, Jazz, I read around my age you didn't
want to be around anymore, which is really sad. But
what would you tell your younger self at my age?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, well, I guess what you're saying. Are you're looking back? Yeah,
it's a twelve year old in year old Jazz.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Oh Man.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
I just like, there's so much more in the world
than what you can see now. And I think that
when you're you know, when you're twelve, when you're thirteen,
that all you can kind of really see. And I
think for me, because I didn't have the opportunity to
travel or see anything outside of the small town that
I grew up in, New Zealand, my perception was that
the world was just this tiny kind of town that
(07:46):
I was in that nothing could ever change. And it's like,
oh man, there's so much out there, like getting to
finish school and going to the ball and then going
into you know, whether it be university or whatever it
may be. There's just this so much more of the
world than than what you know.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I mean, I grew up a mask and the world
before social media.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
I mean, you know, no one wants.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
To hear about your stupid mask. Well, you talk about
when I grew up. I don't have social media.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Okay, but when you do grow up in mass wherever
you grow up, but your world is school and everything
around it at the time.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
And I think what happens and what happened for me,
especially around that age and with bullying, which is such
a prominent thing in schools now for young people, was
that when you're in that position where you're getting bullied,
you feel like the whole world hates you because your
perception of the whole world is so small. So again
it's quite hard to see like, oh, actually this isn't
the case, and not everyone in the whole world doesn't
(08:43):
like me. It's just a couple of bloody school bullies.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, I mean it's hard. The teenagers is hard for
every everyone. I'm looking back. I wore a Looney Tune
dove and made it into a waistcoat and bandanna and
pants sit and went to the school boar. And now
I'm like what was I doing? Geez, I wanted too.
It's terrible, it's not good. No one wants to use
a teenage boys, do they something you wear for the ball?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
But I do nature your embarrassing school ball stories.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
But it's hard to be teenagers, I mean any teenager, right, Jess,
You're a bubbly kid. And I look at seeing my daughter,
you know, and she's a bubbly kid. But you somewhere
you lost that light as a teen and as a parent,
that's heartbreaking to hear that that happened.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
I think my child protection files literally said that I
went from being happy and bubbly to dull and lacking emotion.
And I think that for me was like knowing and
seeing people like you know, yourself in this real, bright,
bubbly teenage and being like, man, that could have been me.
And it took me so long to find that bubbly
again and to find the kind of person that I
(09:46):
used to be. But then once I found it, I
was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
This is this is who I am.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
If someone's getting bullied, feeling down, or feeling helpless, what
a good ways to cope?
Speaker 6 (09:58):
I think that the biggest thing and the best thing
that you can do is to ask for help. I
think that there are so many people, especially in school,
like teachers that are older and wiser and are able
to kind of guide you through that being able to
kind of sit there in silence is just going to
make it.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
A lot worse.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Yeah, and so yeah, I do think that the best
thing that you can do is to ask for help,
but in doing that to also always ask for help
from older and wiser. I think when you're really struggling,
asking from help from people that are your own age
or friends at school, it's good that people know what's
going on. But as wise as you are sometimes I.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Mean not even as wise as you are.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Yeah, and so you know, older and wiser and just
learning to ask for help is Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
This is when I grow up.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
What about as I guess as a parent as well
with advice, you know, for someone who's just got a
daughter thirteen, you know, I think it's mine. I think
you are you know, I say, yeah, but there's us
worry met all seriousness about you know, the things that
kids have to go through these days, whether it's you know, bullying,
whether it's even vaping, whether it's social media, body image
all those sorts of things is quite worrying as a parent.
(11:07):
What advice? I mean, it's probably you haven't been a
parent nowfore, but what what would you give first? People
like me that want to support my kids through that time.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
I think that the biggest thing to do is to
be having these open and honest conversations as much as possible.
I think you can't expect them to come to you
when things are happening at school or when you know,
even things like vaping or social media is happening if
you haven't been opening up, especially like I think the
dinner table used to be really good for that, but
now it's kind of just become we go and.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Watch screens or whatever it may be.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
But if you're not having that constant space where you're
just like allowing your kid to debrief their day or.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
You know, constantly ask and like how are you really
like how's your day going?
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Or doing it in a way that's not judgmental too,
because what I've noticed, especially with social media, the parents
that try to be super strict on it, that's when
the kids turn sneaky and the don't want to talk.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
And so learning to a team, you don't have to
understand it, or you know, don't be like oh back
of my day or so much worse. It's got to
silence your kid.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Yeah, just having those spaces, try and reactivate dinner times
if you can, or just even like a couple of
times a week where you're at the dinner table, no
screens and having these conversations so that if stuff does
hit the fan, they feel like they can talk to
you openly and honestly without sneaking around and.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Jobbing off of the school gates. Still give them big
hugging Oh yeah, that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
You're already at worked by like five.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Ye, you don't give me, give me picking up, picking
up inside skill, pick up inside schools.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
You bring a lot of people hope with what you've done.
But I read that you didn't do it alone. As
a teenager, you in a pretty dark place and a
doctor named doctor step helped you out.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Yes, doctor Stiff.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, I guess that was someone that you well you
turn to not but I guess by choice at the moment,
but someone who did, like you're saying before, someone old
and wiser that sort of sat with you for a
long time, A long time.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
It was supposed to be like a fifteen minute doctor's
appointment ended up being ninety And she said that reality
is that if it was a physical thing, if someone
was having a heart attack, then it doesn't matter how
long you spend with them. You will stay with them
until you can make sure they're stable. And she said
it's the same with mental health, to be able to
sit and stay with someone. And she's like just responding
(13:23):
to it the same way, which is the same thing
with learning to ask for help, like responding it to
the same way as you do with physical health. But yeah,
she was amazing and said a lot of stuff to
me that I'd never really heard from medical professionals. Medical
professionals hadn't told me that there was hope for me,
that things could change. And having someone like that tell
me that, I was like, whoa Like, if she thinks this,
maybe things could change.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
And now many many many.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Years later, she's on the board of our charity and
I have adopted myself into their family.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Holiday with her and stuff done. Yeah, see, young people
can hang out with old people.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Thanks she with my mum over here.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
She wasn't too impress So, Jazz, do you recommend for
young people when their load talk to someone that will
they trust to find your own doctor Steff, someone you can.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
Talk to always always, and I think just keep asking
until someone listens, because there always will be and sometimes
you might not get someone who understands right away. But
I didn't like it took me so long to find
doctor Steff. But eventually someone will listen and be able
to help.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, can I ask on any tips like things like anxiety?
Speaker 5 (14:29):
It happens to all of us.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
I get anxiety, You get anxious. But you have a technique, right.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I do.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
And it's quite a known technique as well. But box
breathing as a really have.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
You heard of it before?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I think I've heard of it.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
So it's basically where you breathe in for foe, you
count to four, breathing for four, hold it for four,
breathe out for four, and then hold like no ear
for four and you keep doing that over and over again,
and it will literally calm down your nervous system, like
biologically scientifically we'll calm it down.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
And so you just take a moment for yourself somewhere
if it's feeling it, and just go through that breathing.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Yeah, And I will do that often before I get
up on stage and speak at things, and because do
you still.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
You know, you deal with some of these things and
you find what techniques and ways to deal with them
now right, Absolutely, it doesn't just mean because you were
feeling low one time, there you're not anymore. It's not
going to happen again.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
It's kind of ways to find ways of dealing with it.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
That's been the thing is learning, learning the tools, learning
the techniques. In that way, things won't get as bad
as they were because now I know I know what
to do, I know how to handle it. I know
when to get off my phone and sign out of
social media. Yeah, all of those things are very very good,
but yeah, box breathing is a really good thing for
people to learn.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Now, you at your charity, you know voices of hope,
You've got your podcast hope is real as well. I
guess your message is always about finding hope. I hope,
I've got hope. I've got the right message from all
the things that you do. Ye find that hope. Though
sometimes when things feel about hopeless, used hope a lot
during that question.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
That's frambling answer.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Look for it's the time.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
Jazz, I think that what I found is and when
it was really dark, I thought that hope just didn't exist,
and I'm like, oh, hope is always there. Sometimes it's
just really hard to find it, and sometimes other it's
where other people can come in and kind of try
to out hold the hope when you're trying to find it.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
And that's what Stiff did with me. She was like, no, Jaz,
is hope for you.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
But I think being able to try and look forward
and dream to the future, if you could do anything,
what would it be, Because it's really hard to fight
if you don't know what you're fighting for. And so
if you can say, like for me, one of the
biggest things. And I remember writing this down in the
hospital one day. They keept trying to make me write
a bucket list, and I was like, I want to
write a bucket list, and eventually I did.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
And at the top of their bucket list was to
visit New York City. And then when I finally was there,
I now work there all the time.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, you go there. You're going in a couple of
days to speak at the UI, Yes, tomorrow, yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
And so to be able to stand there and be like,
oh my gosh, like this is what you know, fifteen
year old Jazz was fighting for to one have that moment,
been able to hold hope that way is yeah, just
a day at a time sometimes.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
So when did you decide to use your story and
your profile, your social media, public speaking books, speeches, and
your podcast like use it to help others? Did that
just like happen or did you decide to do it?
Speaker 6 (17:18):
I mean, it was definitely a decision, but I never
expected it to be what it's become, Like this is wild.
Like I remember, actually your dad and John O were
in our first ever Voices of Hope campaign.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
There we did do you remember that we had a
rugby ball and you were like throwing the ball.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
But I decided to go to film school because when
I was in the middle of my struggles, I spent
a lot of time trying to research other people's stories
just to know that there was hope, and back then
I couldn't find anything. I think John Kernwain had to
kind of just come out with his story and that
was really it. And so when I came out the
other side, I was like, I just want to learn
to tell these stories so that people can no matter
(17:58):
what it is, they're facing can go find hope, So
study directing. But yeah, my first show got picked up
that had two terms into film school, and then the
movie got signed and the books got signed the year after,
and then it kind of just then.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
I got on TikTok. I don't even wanted to do
but talk to Stiff's kids, but like, you gotta get
on TikTok.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
And I was like, no, in the first video over
post it was so lame. It was a freaking dog
with a stick like a run. I don't know what
I was doing, And then started to share. But I
did the series and the movie and the first book
before TikTok existed, and I guess TikTok really is just
what blew up?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Yeah, everything, but yes it was.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
It was a decision to tell these stories, not necessarily
my story to this extent, but it happened.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
And now I'm like, oh, well, if people find hope
in it is what it happens.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Is it hard putting yourself out there? And like how
many nasty comments you encounter? Like how do you deal
with that?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah? I mean there's always negativity, I guess, Jaz. I
mean just google John O and Bean if you want
to make yourself feel better.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
I've learned the power of the block button on social media.
I love a girl blah blah blah blah. If people
are mean, I'm like, I don't have to see this.
People don't have to comment.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
This is the thing. And it probably sounds like an
old man ranting here, so you know, we'll roll her eyes.
But you don't have to comment on everything. If you
don't like something, you don't have to comment.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
It's true.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
You can get away though, Like why do you feel
the need to comment on someone else's video.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
All the time? You know, but that's kind of I
guess within social media is encouraged to comment. Yeah, but
sometimes I'm like, oh don't. You can probably walk away
and not comment.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Well, I think a lot of the main backlash that
I've had was at the start, and it was all
like middle aged specifically, to be honest, middle aged men.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Yeah, it was basically just but they were very much
just like because they still couldn't get past the attention
seeking as.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
So they were just like the film was getting announced
and they were like this attention seeking blah blah blah,
and I was like, oh my gosh, like come on,
but I've started to kind of I'm like, hey, most
of our statistics and it aged men, so this is
not just for our teenagers.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, it's for you everyone, every right.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, you didn't just upset older people like that.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
You upset it.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Uky one of their chocolates wrong.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
This is the most viral thing I have ever done.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
So if not if people are listening to that, what
the heck was this? There was a chocolate from the UK,
you got sent from a friend and you weren't sure
how to eat it, but you ate it on TikTok
and everyone was like it almost called a national incident
between New Zealand and the UK because you ate it wrong.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
It was, and all the like media radio stations from
around the world were covering this.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Poor world. Do you get it?
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Bloody if any food item and go, oh you know
how I eat this? I smash it on a table,
I ate it.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
I thought the way you ate it, to be fair,
was the way it was. How did you eat it?
I got it? So you're supposed that the whole concept,
thank you.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
You're supposed to smash it and then it falls into
segments and then you eat the segments, but I didn't
know this information.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Does it have instructions on it? No?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Mine didn't because it was a nineteenth box.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Well, yeah they can't.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
They can't get mad, you know.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
But didn't have instructions I have trying to prevent me
now from getting in the border of the United Kingdom.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
It was like a petition that went out.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Really sometimes.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
This is when I grow up. You're big on techtok,
love what you do, but you have millions of followers.
I found myself watching too much techtok and dad tells
me to get off. Yeah. So what do you actually
think of social media? Good or bad?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
I think both, and you say good.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
I think what is amazing about social media is that
when your dad was growing up, and especially I think
a woman that you know your age, the only idea
that you had of people were magazines was the Kardashians
was edited things that was selected by the media, So
there was no other way.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
At least it was like reality TV.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
There was no other way to see normal lives, so
you were only kind of rowing up seeing this picture
perfect body and like these perfect bodies and that's it,
We're Social media has completely taken that power away from
the media and is like, this is real life, These
are real bodies, these are real stories. My life is
not glamorous. And I think there's definitely a lot of
(22:16):
negatives to social media. We all know that the bullying,
the time consumed, but the stuff that you can learn
on there, the fact that you can grow up and
see people like myself on there, or people that don't
aren't cut Ashians or have pitch perfect lives.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
But that's actually really healthy in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, it's a way. You're right, it's opened the world up.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
To not just that select Yeah, screen time not as healthy.
I don't even want to know what line is.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
And obviously there is a lot of danger to social
media and stuff, but I think the reality is it's
not going anywhere, so learning how to use that. Setting
screen time limits for especially your age, as very important.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Otherwise in your world just becomes.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Social media and how many likes can I get in that,
which is not important in the real world at all.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
But you can see things can go off. Put this
video out, they didn't get.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Your self worth starts to go with it because you're like, oh,
this photo didn't get as many likes, or you're looking
through to see who liked it.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
My friend didn't like well, wherever.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
It may be.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
So my biggest thing is how do we teach young
people to not put their worth and their identity in
social media. That's kind of more. I think how even
how parents and stuff, how we can encourage that.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
You've done so many amazing things, from winning reality shows
to speaking at the un movies.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Books podcast, this podcast, this podcast.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
What is the one thing you're most proud of?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Man?
Speaker 6 (23:39):
I think all of these things have been really cool
to do, and you know, I would have never imagined
winning Dancing with the Stars, will been able to work
with Prince Harryt and do this crazy things. But I
think above absolutely everything, there was a moment I'll never
forget where I was speaking at a conference and there
was this mother that came up to me and she
was just crying and I looked at her and I
(24:00):
hugged her, and then she just said, my daughter, she's
been in and out of sight words for a long time.
She's been really struggling, and she I got her your
book and when she read it, it was the first
time that she felt her the first time that she felt.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Like there was hope.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
And I remember kind of looking up and the daughter
was there and she's crying, and I just in that moment,
was like, man, this is why this tops anything, any
kind of achievements, as you don't do it for anything
else than those moments of going these people know that
there's hope.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
It must be special for you, you know, And I
mean your story has helped so many people.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
I think I cry every time that I meet people
like that. And now it's happening all over the world.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
I was in the US or the UK and Scotland
and there's people coming up to me there saying the
same thing, and it's so cool to go actually, like
all I've done is gone, Hey, there's hope, and other
people have chosen to fight to stay and I think
that's what's really cool.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, but above Prince William and Prince Harry hanging out
with them, you.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Know, cool, but not as cool as their period. Like
I'm like, I don't care about it, Like it's cool,
and I'm like, wow, how do I end up here?
But that's never the reason you do it. And I
stopped it.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
If people weren't getting impacted by the story, I'm not
doing my job right. So it's you know that one
hundred percent. It's always those stories that just oh that's why, why.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Why, that's the why you do it? Okay, so we
need to ask how did you end up hanging out
with Megan and Harry.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
So we actually nearly missed this entire opportunity. We were
getting this this email. I do a lot of speaking,
and I got this email from this woman who sits
us from Wellington being like, hey, can you come down
and speak at this conference? And at the time I
was like, I'm really buzy, Like I just she was like,
give me a call when you can. We played phone
tag for like two weeks and eventually I was like,
I need to answer the lady from Wellington, and so
(25:49):
I answered the phone and she goes, I don't actually
want you to speak an event. I'm a Royal advisor
and Prince Harry and Meghan are coming to New Zealand
and they want to have coffee with you.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Oh my gosh, and I was like oh.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
And afterwards they were email The first time.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
I think she just wanted like to know I was
legit right and I wasn't just going to jump on
it for that reason, and then her like the signature afterwards,
added Royal Advisor, and I was like, you told me
that in the first place.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
So you meet them for like your coffee?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
So we went down to Wellington, we meet them for coffee,
and I remember sitting there being like, what.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Do we do you bow?
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Do you say you're like Wood Curtsey and then came
in and they just kind of like shook our hands,
sit down, and like afterwards were hugging us, and I
was like, I feel like we weren't supposed to do that,
and you're also not supposed to like like take photos
properly with them, but we did that, which I'm so
glad that we did. But yeah, they were so nice.
And then wait, I don't know, this is really funny.
(26:46):
We were doing interviews afterwards and one of the reporters
was asking us how was it. It was a good
and gin so we're having coffee and then there was
like slices and stuff on there and she was like,
the ginger crunch was really good. The reporter thought that
she was talking about Prince Harry, so he got the
nickname the ginger Crunch from Crossing.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean that shows that they are you know,
I'm sure they're just real people, you know, Like, yes
they have again they have a thing that their jobs
where the actors or Yal family has put them on
a real public profile.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
I think it's really.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Funny though, because we even then. I don't know if
you know this, but me and Jing got an award
from Her Majesty the Queen US. We were supposed to Buckingham,
so we did some stuff with obviously with Harry and Meghan,
and then we went and met with the Royal Foundation,
which is the people that they were doing stuff with.
But yeah, the award from the Queen. We were supposed
to go and receive it in Buckingham, but it was
(27:40):
in COVID so we couldn't.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
So I arrived at our house in the post cracked
and this like it was so bad, and I was like,
this is from the Palace and it's like in this
little weird no. But it's got a little Queeny's signature
on it, ri ip.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
But what was it?
Speaker 5 (27:56):
It was an award for our service to mental health
as well in the Commonwealth.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah, if you want to each, you just wonder share
one each. That's good, that's good.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
It is a great time.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
You've done a lot of reality TV. What was harder
learning dancing steps and dancing with the stars or going
without much food on Celebrity Treasure.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Celebrity Treasure Island really, oh my gosh, learning dance steps
through the day, and.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
I mean Dancing with the Stars was rough, like that's
eleven hour like eleven hour days, eleven weeks, like you
don't have a single day because we were in rehearsals
before anything was an hours and so it was crazy
TikTok TikTok Dancing the.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Stars and it was live as well, which was scary show.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
That TikTok Dancing the Stars. Just put it up, who
gets the most views over a week?
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Great idea, dance, don't I see it?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I was like, please dig up, don't you go on that.
You've tried to stay in my brain though dancing obviously
it does with you. You know you can learn.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Steps, managed to do it Treasure Island. First of all,
I'm like, there's so many reasons that I could. I
was just terrible. I had just had COVID as well,
Like I was pushed out a day from going because
I had COVID, and then you know, I'm asthmatic, I'm
disleeks like I'm adhd.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
My hand was broken and so trying to do anything
was was so hard.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
But I think, yeah, living on rice and beans and
I've got I'm allergic to seafood and so like people
were trying to catch fish and I was like, well,
I can't you know, eat any of that. And then
you're doing these big endurance challenges and yeah, it's like
it's crazy. You get like we got emergency evacuated one night,
and it's just you just cry every day.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I feel like for TV, they would go and stop
record and then be like all right, guys, great, shoot,
let's go to the airbnb, the hotel. Nah, but it's
like it's legit. You guys are in there.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
We you don't have pillows. I think that was the
big thing, like you had, and I was just like
could no, No, you weren't allowed. So you had to
like roll up sweatshirts and like just try to use that.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
And then you're allowed to bring like a pillow case
and stuff it with clothes.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
So that's what some people did. I didn't know this information,
and so I'm going to out myself here. When we
got emergency evacuated and we went to the hotel howls.
I took the hotel. I was like, I'm so sorry,
I will pay the hotel mat. They have so many
of them because some people did that.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
But yeah, you just kind of had to like roll
up like cloth, yeah and then just kind of use
it as the case and yeah, like school camp, they
give you a list of going all these are all
the things.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
You kind of yes, but I've got so much stuff
taken off me because they bag search you as if
you were like coming into a new country and you've
got all the illegal stuff. So like I had like
baby wipes got taken off me because they could be
used as toilet paper.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
I use toilet paper.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
I was like, this is all like no mirrors, but
they us have makeup so you could do your makeup
without any mirrors, which was I just was like this,
maybe you could like smash the mirror something well a
year or like maybe the mirror would start a fire
if you know.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
And where we were and Wonnaca like it's quite dry land,
but it was. I think Slippertish Ryland was the hardest
thing I had done you ever done, absolutely like it
was wild. Would I do it again? Probably because it's
I love that kind of thing. It's fun, but it
definitely takes.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
It before we go. I want to fire at you,
Sam quick fire questions to find out if I really
want to be like you.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
This game is called this or that?
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Okay, Ready, TikTok or Instagram TikTok, Harry Styles or Harry Potter,
Harry Styles, Okay, Dandles or Crocs, Crocs, Minecraft or Fortnite.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
I haven't played either.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Prime Energy or Frank Green Drink Bottle, Frank Green everyone.
I love Frank Emotion or support water Okay, Kindle or
a real book, Real book, Netflix or Snapchat, Netflix, air
pods or a zero point five photo.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Zero point five is the new Well, it's probably not
feel like I've just got on to it. It's very
cool high angle stuff.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Yeah, but I have my AirPod Maxes, which I love.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Like those different.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
Yeah, it is a different. Okay, I'm gonna get in
that case. I'm going to do zero point five.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
But also all right, sleep in or.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Stay up late, sleep and Barby movie or Fast and Furious,
Prince Harry or Prince William. They're probably not going to
hear that.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
You know, she think he wants is going to do
the chocolate either, we don't want to know that. How
about we don't know? Answer that one? We don't want
to cause another incidental incident.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
It's the final JOHNO will be in, can't there?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yes, thank you so much for what you did.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I definitely want to be like you because you have
so many people. What you do now literally saves lives.
Thank you for sharing your story and giving people hope.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
How cool is Jazz? Do you see why I want
to be like her?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
She is cool? But also she chose you over me?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Right?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yeah? Now, really inspiring us so much great advice from Jazz,
and I actually found really interesting Her answer about how
she choose to help people over anything that she's achieved
personally is yeah, awesome.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
It shows what a sort of person she is.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
You know, so settled, you want to grow up and
you want to be Jess Lawnton.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Right.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Well maybe, but there's lenchy of other inspiring people who I.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Could be like, Oh, so we're doing this again, aren't we?
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Yeah, don't forget to like and subscribe or you'll miss out.
And who the nixt inspiring person could be
Hello, Cuda, Welcome to a very special episode of our podcasts. Yeah,
promoting another podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's podcast inception.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Right now now, I feel like I had no choice
to plug this one because my daughter Siena is in
here with us right now.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hello Siena. Hello, Now what's going on? What's happening?
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Well, I've got a brand new podcast called When I
Grow Up.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You've got a podcast, got a bloody podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, podcast. You're going to hear the first episode of
the podcast. But why we we plug? I mean, I
guess I'm on the podcast with you, But what are
you created? You need to plug the podcast?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Well all the free stuff and skeits have done for
you guys over there.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah enough child labor though you didn't even think about
when the child grow You know, when the children grow
up from those factories, they start wanting money and they
start learning about rights and human rights. Okay, so this
is if this is the least we can do.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Yeah, you're right, it's the least you can do.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Give me one once this little plug's done with square.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, so this is the first episode of the podcast.
Actually really rewarding podcasts to be part of seeing a
you host it with myself, and it's explained the idea
behind the podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Well, it's very hard to know what you want to
be when you grow up. So on the podcast, we're
going to talk to inspirational females to hear this story
and inspire young people. It's great to listen with parents
and with your kids.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Okay, right, who we talk? What big bangers are we talking?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
What's some of the guests we've talked.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
To so far?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Okay, we're ready for this list?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Eliza McCartney, pol Voter, Yep, Poul Voter, Lucy Lawless, actor,
Nano girl, science educator, engineer, actually, Jazz Thornton no.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Jas Thornton mental health advocations.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
She's actually the first episode of the podcast you're about
to hear shortly.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yes, Karen Walker and Grayson Wiki.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Karen Walker fashion designer as well, and the netballer Grace
and Wiki. Well that sounds like a great line up.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Where are the men?
Speaker 5 (01:49):
We're maybe two?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's inspirational females, so inspiring your generation.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Already had this, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, I mind you.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
There's a lot of a lot of mean with podcasts
out there on there, so yeah, it's a.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Really cool thing to do if you listen with your
kids as well.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Thirty minutes long.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, so good for like shorter attention span. So he's
the first episode with Jazz Thorn and a lot of
great stuff from Jazz. She is amazing. Her great stuff
are dealing with mental health, with anxiety and also social media,
whether it's good or bad. And it's interesting coming from
someone who's got millions and millions of views on social media.
What her thoughts are?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Now? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Can I can I say something about Jess Thorn?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I love her, love her dearly.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
But the other day we.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Ran into a cross the road at the cafe and
my coffee order it comes in a tiny little cup
scene it it's called a piccolo. Okay, it's very mockable
hockable drinking. I hold it like this and she's like
that is the tiniest little cup of coffee and she boom.
Photo taken. But I didn't even consent to the photo.
But I was like, don't mock me on social media
for that. I checked my phones. I'm going to bed.
Last time I'm tagged in. She's like, look at this
(02:53):
tiny public shaming of my tiny little coffee here now,
and I see you'd see you see that was for
your personal collection that the people in America are blowing
up about this. Yeah, I've never seen such a tiny
cup of coffee.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Oh, John's got a tiny puffy. We've got a tiny podcasts.
I would love you to listen till you can catch
up with it every week on iHeartRadio where you get
your podcast. It's called When I.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Grow Up the Heads podcast network mine never seeing it
and this is my dadmin.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Hi, and when I grow.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Up, I want to be a TikTok start right, or a.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Sports player Okay, hang on, yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Even a fashion designer. Actually maybe in all.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Player Okay, okay, slow down. Maybe we should talk to
some amazing females who inspire you and who.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
You want to be, like, yeah, and we can find
out what they did to get where they are.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yes, and there's do it as a TV show.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
No, Dad, only old people watch TV. They do it
as a podcast.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I guess that worksnop.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
This is when I grow Up.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Today's guest is Jazz Thornton. As you're here, Jazz does
incredible things to help people with mental health, especially young people.
She shares her inspiring story on the podcast Jazz is awesome.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
She's great, I'd say, seeing her like, she's got lots
of riz She's.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Never said that. Every time you see someone call you
think something's for you.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Oh, they got lots of risks.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
She tells a pin that there's lots of risk because you.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Think your work so much.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I love saying because it winds you up so much.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Seriously, though, Jairs is amazing. It was really cool to
find out some tips for mental health for teens, for pearents,
you know, actually for everyone.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
And also some good ways when you're dealing with anxiety
and when you're feeling low jeers.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
At one point on the podcast, you'll hear she even
got me crying with one story, Dad, You crying with.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Every movie, every animated movie, joy story and turned out.
And that's if you don't fall asleep because they're all
I care.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Okay, okay, all right, there's nothing about me watching the movies. Okay, yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Jazz is also a TikTok style with millions of followers,
and I found it really interesting asking her to answer
to whether social media is good or bad.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, and the of the block button. It is quite interesting, right,
And she.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Also hangs out with famous people. We find out how
she almost missed the chance to hang out with Prince
Harry and.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Mega Marco, and now Jazz got to hang out with me.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So that's great, isn't that?
Speaker 5 (05:13):
Yeah, that's not quite as cool.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Told me, I, have you enjoyed our chat as much
as we did?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It really falled me the hope and as you did,
I'd be pretty proud if you ended up helping people
like Jess.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Does hey, dad, today, when I grow up, I want
to be someone who helps people like Jazz thoughtan.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Okay, well, shit, it's I don't know if it's awkwod
or not, but Jess is with us right now as
you say that.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, j it's so nice to meet you. I've been
such a big fan for a while now.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Oh, it's so nice to meet you. I think that
was the best introduction I've ever had. Oh yeah, I
love that.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I for you on the spot. Yes, yeah, What what
do you admire about Jazz? Then? Why would you want
to be someone like Jess?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Well, first of all, I love your tektik, I love
your dance.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Love it when I do TikTok, and do I get involved?
You're embarrassing me.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Oh, okay, that's just because you're you.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Okay, fine, But I also love.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
That jazz helps people so many, like so many people
my age, and by sharing a story and giving people hope, now, jazz,
you help people with their mental health. And with doing
this work, you've got to experience some amazing things, making movies,
meeting famous celebrities and royalty, writing books, and even speaking
of the un Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
But I guess to get to where you are now, Jazz,
it was such a journey for you, you know, going
through some horrible, horrible times. And that's to put it lightly.
How do you feel when you look back at that
and you go, well, here I am now, But I
had to get through that to get to where I
am now.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Absolutely, And I think I often find myself kind of
looking back at it and being like, man, what I
like trade all of that bad stuff so that I
could just have like a normal life. But every day
that someone comes up to me and they're like, oh,
your story's helped me so much or like it and
allowed me to see hope to stay another day, I'm like, oh,
you know what, Actually, all of that stuff, as much
as it sucked, and it was so hard.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I wouldn't take it.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
I wouldn't change it because I now get to do
all of these things and just impact people and be
able to share my story, which.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Is twelve year old Jaz would have never thought was possible.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah, so, Jazz, I read around my age you didn't
want to be around anymore, which is really sad. But
what would you tell your younger self at my age?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, well, I guess what you're saying. Are you're looking back? Yeah,
it's a twelve year old in year old Jazz.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Oh Man.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
I just like, there's so much more in the world
than what you can see now. And I think that
when you're you know, when you're twelve, when you're thirteen,
that all you can kind of really see. And I
think for me, because I didn't have the opportunity to
travel or see anything outside of the small town that
I grew up in, New Zealand, my perception was that
the world was just this tiny kind of town that
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I was in that nothing could ever change. And it's like,
oh man, there's so much out there, like getting to
finish school and going to the ball and then going
into you know, whether it be university or whatever it
may be. There's just this so much more of the
world than than what you know.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I mean, I grew up a mask and the world
before social media.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
I mean, you know, no one wants.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
To hear about your stupid mask. Well, you talk about
when I grew up. I don't have social media.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Okay, but when you do grow up in mass wherever
you grow up, but your world is school and everything
around it at the time.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
And I think what happens and what happened for me,
especially around that age and with bullying, which is such
a prominent thing in schools now for young people, was
that when you're in that position where you're getting bullied,
you feel like the whole world hates you because your
perception of the whole world is so small. So again
it's quite hard to see like, oh, actually this isn't
the case, and not everyone in the whole world doesn't
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like me. It's just a couple of bloody school bullies.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, I mean it's hard. The teenagers is hard for
every everyone. I'm looking back. I wore a Looney Tune
dove and made it into a waistcoat and bandanna and
pants sit and went to the school boar. And now
I'm like what was I doing? Geez, I wanted too.
It's terrible, it's not good. No one wants to use
a teenage boys, do they something you wear for the ball?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
But I do nature your embarrassing school ball stories.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
But it's hard to be teenagers, I mean any teenager, right, Jess,
You're a bubbly kid. And I look at seeing my daughter,
you know, and she's a bubbly kid. But you somewhere
you lost that light as a teen and as a parent,
that's heartbreaking to hear that that happened.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
I think my child protection files literally said that I
went from being happy and bubbly to dull and lacking emotion.
And I think that for me was like knowing and
seeing people like you know, yourself in this real, bright,
bubbly teenage and being like, man, that could have been me.
And it took me so long to find that bubbly
again and to find the kind of person that I
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used to be. But then once I found it, I
was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
This is this is who I am.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
If someone's getting bullied, feeling down, or feeling helpless, what
a good ways to cope?
Speaker 6 (09:58):
I think that the biggest thing and the best thing
that you can do is to ask for help. I
think that there are so many people, especially in school,
like teachers that are older and wiser and are able
to kind of guide you through that being able to
kind of sit there in silence is just going to
make it.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
A lot worse.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Yeah, and so yeah, I do think that the best
thing that you can do is to ask for help,
but in doing that to also always ask for help
from older and wiser. I think when you're really struggling,
asking from help from people that are your own age
or friends at school, it's good that people know what's
going on. But as wise as you are sometimes I.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Mean not even as wise as you are.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Yeah, and so you know, older and wiser and just
learning to ask for help is Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
This is when I grow up.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
What about as I guess as a parent as well
with advice, you know, for someone who's just got a
daughter thirteen, you know, I think it's mine. I think
you are you know, I say, yeah, but there's us
worry met all seriousness about you know, the things that
kids have to go through these days, whether it's you know, bullying,
whether it's even vaping, whether it's social media, body image
all those sorts of things is quite worrying as a parent.
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What advice? I mean, it's probably you haven't been a
parent nowfore, but what what would you give first? People
like me that want to support my kids through that time.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
I think that the biggest thing to do is to
be having these open and honest conversations as much as possible.
I think you can't expect them to come to you
when things are happening at school or when you know,
even things like vaping or social media is happening if
you haven't been opening up, especially like I think the
dinner table used to be really good for that, but
now it's kind of just become we go and.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Watch screens or whatever it may be.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
But if you're not having that constant space where you're
just like allowing your kid to debrief their day or.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
You know, constantly ask and like how are you really
like how's your day going?
Speaker 6 (11:49):
Or doing it in a way that's not judgmental too,
because what I've noticed, especially with social media, the parents
that try to be super strict on it, that's when
the kids turn sneaky and the don't want to talk.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
And so learning to a team, you don't have to
understand it, or you know, don't be like oh back
of my day or so much worse. It's got to
silence your kid.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Yeah, just having those spaces, try and reactivate dinner times
if you can, or just even like a couple of
times a week where you're at the dinner table, no
screens and having these conversations so that if stuff does
hit the fan, they feel like they can talk to
you openly and honestly without sneaking around and.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Jobbing off of the school gates. Still give them big
hugging Oh yeah, that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
You're already at worked by like five.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Ye, you don't give me, give me picking up, picking
up inside skill, pick up inside schools.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
You bring a lot of people hope with what you've done.
But I read that you didn't do it alone. As
a teenager, you in a pretty dark place and a
doctor named doctor step helped you out.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Yes, doctor Stiff.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, I guess that was someone that you well you
turn to not but I guess by choice at the moment,
but someone who did, like you're saying before, someone old
and wiser that sort of sat with you for a
long time, A long time.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
It was supposed to be like a fifteen minute doctor's
appointment ended up being ninety And she said that reality
is that if it was a physical thing, if someone
was having a heart attack, then it doesn't matter how
long you spend with them. You will stay with them
until you can make sure they're stable. And she said
it's the same with mental health, to be able to
sit and stay with someone. And she's like just responding
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to it the same way, which is the same thing
with learning to ask for help, like responding it to
the same way as you do with physical health. But yeah,
she was amazing and said a lot of stuff to
me that I'd never really heard from medical professionals. Medical
professionals hadn't told me that there was hope for me,
that things could change. And having someone like that tell
me that, I was like, whoa Like, if she thinks this,
maybe things could change.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
And now many many many.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Years later, she's on the board of our charity and
I have adopted myself into their family.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Holiday with her and stuff done. Yeah, see, young people
can hang out with old people.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Thanks she with my mum over here.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
She wasn't too impress So, Jazz, do you recommend for
young people when their load talk to someone that will
they trust to find your own doctor Steff, someone you can.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
Talk to always always, and I think just keep asking
until someone listens, because there always will be and sometimes
you might not get someone who understands right away. But
I didn't like it took me so long to find
doctor Steff. But eventually someone will listen and be able
to help.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, can I ask on any tips like things like anxiety?
Speaker 5 (14:29):
It happens to all of us.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
I get anxiety, You get anxious. But you have a technique, right.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I do.
Speaker 6 (14:35):
And it's quite a known technique as well. But box
breathing as a really have.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
You heard of it before?
Speaker 4 (14:39):
I think I've heard of it.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
So it's basically where you breathe in for foe, you
count to four, breathing for four, hold it for four,
breathe out for four, and then hold like no ear
for four and you keep doing that over and over again,
and it will literally calm down your nervous system, like
biologically scientifically we'll calm it down.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
And so you just take a moment for yourself somewhere
if it's feeling it, and just go through that breathing.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Yeah, And I will do that often before I get
up on stage and speak at things, and because do
you still.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
You know, you deal with some of these things and
you find what techniques and ways to deal with them
now right, Absolutely, it doesn't just mean because you were
feeling low one time, there you're not anymore. It's not
going to happen again.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
It's kind of ways to find ways of dealing with it.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
That's been the thing is learning, learning the tools, learning
the techniques. In that way, things won't get as bad
as they were because now I know I know what
to do, I know how to handle it. I know
when to get off my phone and sign out of
social media. Yeah, all of those things are very very good,
but yeah, box breathing is a really good thing for
people to learn.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Now, you at your charity, you know voices of hope,
You've got your podcast hope is real as well. I
guess your message is always about finding hope. I hope,
I've got hope. I've got the right message from all
the things that you do. Ye find that hope. Though
sometimes when things feel about hopeless, used hope a lot
during that question.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
That's frambling answer.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Look for it's the time.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
Jazz, I think that what I found is and when
it was really dark, I thought that hope just didn't exist,
and I'm like, oh, hope is always there. Sometimes it's
just really hard to find it, and sometimes other it's
where other people can come in and kind of try
to out hold the hope when you're trying to find it.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
And that's what Stiff did with me. She was like, no, Jaz,
is hope for you.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
But I think being able to try and look forward
and dream to the future, if you could do anything,
what would it be, Because it's really hard to fight
if you don't know what you're fighting for. And so
if you can say, like for me, one of the
biggest things. And I remember writing this down in the
hospital one day. They keept trying to make me write
a bucket list, and I was like, I want to
write a bucket list, and eventually I did.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
And at the top of their bucket list was to
visit New York City. And then when I finally was there,
I now work there all the time.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, you go there. You're going in a couple of
days to speak at the UI, Yes, tomorrow, yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
And so to be able to stand there and be like,
oh my gosh, like this is what you know, fifteen
year old Jazz was fighting for to one have that moment,
been able to hold hope that way is yeah, just
a day at a time sometimes.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
So when did you decide to use your story and
your profile, your social media, public speaking books, speeches, and
your podcast like use it to help others? Did that
just like happen or did you decide to do it?
Speaker 6 (17:18):
I mean, it was definitely a decision, but I never
expected it to be what it's become, Like this is wild.
Like I remember, actually your dad and John O were
in our first ever Voices of Hope campaign.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
There we did do you remember that we had a
rugby ball and you were like throwing the ball.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
But I decided to go to film school because when
I was in the middle of my struggles, I spent
a lot of time trying to research other people's stories
just to know that there was hope, and back then
I couldn't find anything. I think John Kernwain had to
kind of just come out with his story and that
was really it. And so when I came out the
other side, I was like, I just want to learn
to tell these stories so that people can no matter
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what it is, they're facing can go find hope, So
study directing. But yeah, my first show got picked up
that had two terms into film school, and then the
movie got signed and the books got signed the year after,
and then it kind of just then.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
I got on TikTok. I don't even wanted to do
but talk to Stiff's kids, but like, you gotta get
on TikTok.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
And I was like, no, in the first video over
post it was so lame. It was a freaking dog
with a stick like a run. I don't know what
I was doing, And then started to share. But I
did the series and the movie and the first book
before TikTok existed, and I guess TikTok really is just
what blew up?
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Yeah, everything, but yes it was.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
It was a decision to tell these stories, not necessarily
my story to this extent, but it happened.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
And now I'm like, oh, well, if people find hope
in it is what it happens.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Is it hard putting yourself out there? And like how
many nasty comments you encounter? Like how do you deal
with that?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah? I mean there's always negativity, I guess, Jaz. I
mean just google John O and Bean if you want
to make yourself feel better.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
I've learned the power of the block button on social media.
I love a girl blah blah blah blah. If people
are mean, I'm like, I don't have to see this.
People don't have to comment.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
This is the thing. And it probably sounds like an
old man ranting here, so you know, we'll roll her eyes.
But you don't have to comment on everything. If you
don't like something, you don't have to comment.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
It's true.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
You can get away though, Like why do you feel
the need to comment on someone else's video.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
All the time? You know, but that's kind of I
guess within social media is encouraged to comment. Yeah, but
sometimes I'm like, oh don't. You can probably walk away
and not comment.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Well, I think a lot of the main backlash that
I've had was at the start, and it was all
like middle aged specifically, to be honest, middle aged men.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Yeah, it was basically just but they were very much
just like because they still couldn't get past the attention
seeking as.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
So they were just like the film was getting announced
and they were like this attention seeking blah blah blah,
and I was like, oh my gosh, like come on,
but I've started to kind of I'm like, hey, most
of our statistics and it aged men, so this is
not just for our teenagers.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, it's for you everyone, every right.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, you didn't just upset older people like that.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
You upset it.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Uky one of their chocolates wrong.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
This is the most viral thing I have ever done.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
So if not if people are listening to that, what
the heck was this? There was a chocolate from the UK,
you got sent from a friend and you weren't sure
how to eat it, but you ate it on TikTok
and everyone was like it almost called a national incident
between New Zealand and the UK because you ate it wrong.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
It was, and all the like media radio stations from
around the world were covering this.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Poor world. Do you get it?
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Bloody if any food item and go, oh you know
how I eat this? I smash it on a table,
I ate it.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
I thought the way you ate it, to be fair,
was the way it was. How did you eat it?
I got it? So you're supposed that the whole concept,
thank you.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
You're supposed to smash it and then it falls into
segments and then you eat the segments, but I didn't
know this information.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Does it have instructions on it? No?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Mine didn't because it was a nineteenth box.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Well, yeah they can't.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
They can't get mad, you know.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
But didn't have instructions I have trying to prevent me
now from getting in the border of the United Kingdom.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
It was like a petition that went out.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Really sometimes.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
This is when I grow up. You're big on techtok,
love what you do, but you have millions of followers.
I found myself watching too much techtok and dad tells
me to get off. Yeah. So what do you actually
think of social media? Good or bad?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
I think both, and you say good.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
I think what is amazing about social media is that
when your dad was growing up, and especially I think
a woman that you know your age, the only idea
that you had of people were magazines was the Kardashians
was edited things that was selected by the media, So
there was no other way.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
At least it was like reality TV.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
There was no other way to see normal lives, so
you were only kind of rowing up seeing this picture
perfect body and like these perfect bodies and that's it,
We're Social media has completely taken that power away from
the media and is like, this is real life, These
are real bodies, these are real stories. My life is
not glamorous. And I think there's definitely a lot of
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negatives to social media. We all know that the bullying,
the time consumed, but the stuff that you can learn
on there, the fact that you can grow up and
see people like myself on there, or people that don't
aren't cut Ashians or have pitch perfect lives.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
But that's actually really healthy in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, it's a way. You're right, it's opened the world up.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
To not just that select Yeah, screen time not as healthy.
I don't even want to know what line is.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
And obviously there is a lot of danger to social
media and stuff, but I think the reality is it's
not going anywhere, so learning how to use that. Setting
screen time limits for especially your age, as very important.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Otherwise in your world just becomes.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Social media and how many likes can I get in that,
which is not important in the real world at all.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
But you can see things can go off. Put this
video out, they didn't get.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
Your self worth starts to go with it because you're like, oh,
this photo didn't get as many likes, or you're looking
through to see who liked it.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
My friend didn't like well, wherever.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
It may be.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
So my biggest thing is how do we teach young
people to not put their worth and their identity in
social media. That's kind of more. I think how even
how parents and stuff, how we can encourage that.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
You've done so many amazing things, from winning reality shows
to speaking at the un movies.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Books podcast, this podcast, this podcast.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
What is the one thing you're most proud of?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Man?
Speaker 6 (23:39):
I think all of these things have been really cool
to do, and you know, I would have never imagined
winning Dancing with the Stars, will been able to work
with Prince Harryt and do this crazy things. But I
think above absolutely everything, there was a moment I'll never
forget where I was speaking at a conference and there
was this mother that came up to me and she
was just crying and I looked at her and I
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hugged her, and then she just said, my daughter, she's
been in and out of sight words for a long time.
She's been really struggling, and she I got her your
book and when she read it, it was the first
time that she felt her the first time that she felt.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Like there was hope.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
And I remember kind of looking up and the daughter
was there and she's crying, and I just in that moment,
was like, man, this is why this tops anything, any
kind of achievements, as you don't do it for anything
else than those moments of going these people know that
there's hope.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
It must be special for you, you know, And I
mean your story has helped so many people.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
I think I cry every time that I meet people
like that. And now it's happening all over the world.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
I was in the US or the UK and Scotland
and there's people coming up to me there saying the
same thing, and it's so cool to go actually, like
all I've done is gone, Hey, there's hope, and other
people have chosen to fight to stay and I think
that's what's really cool.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah, but above Prince William and Prince Harry hanging out
with them, you.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Know, cool, but not as cool as their period. Like
I'm like, I don't care about it, Like it's cool,
and I'm like, wow, how do I end up here?
But that's never the reason you do it. And I
stopped it.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
If people weren't getting impacted by the story, I'm not
doing my job right. So it's you know that one
hundred percent. It's always those stories that just oh that's why, why.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Why, that's the why you do it? Okay, so we
need to ask how did you end up hanging out
with Megan and Harry.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
So we actually nearly missed this entire opportunity. We were
getting this this email. I do a lot of speaking,
and I got this email from this woman who sits
us from Wellington being like, hey, can you come down
and speak at this conference? And at the time I
was like, I'm really buzy, Like I just she was like,
give me a call when you can. We played phone
tag for like two weeks and eventually I was like,
I need to answer the lady from Wellington, and so
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I answered the phone and she goes, I don't actually
want you to speak an event. I'm a Royal advisor
and Prince Harry and Meghan are coming to New Zealand
and they want to have coffee with you.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Oh my gosh, and I was like oh.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
And afterwards they were email The first time.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
I think she just wanted like to know I was
legit right and I wasn't just going to jump on
it for that reason, and then her like the signature afterwards,
added Royal Advisor, and I was like, you told me
that in the first place.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
So you meet them for like your coffee?
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
So we went down to Wellington, we meet them for coffee,
and I remember sitting there being like, what.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Do we do you bow?
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Do you say you're like Wood Curtsey and then came
in and they just kind of like shook our hands,
sit down, and like afterwards were hugging us, and I
was like, I feel like we weren't supposed to do that,
and you're also not supposed to like like take photos
properly with them, but we did that, which I'm so
glad that we did. But yeah, they were so nice.
And then wait, I don't know, this is really funny.
(26:46):
We were doing interviews afterwards and one of the reporters
was asking us how was it. It was a good
and gin so we're having coffee and then there was
like slices and stuff on there and she was like,
the ginger crunch was really good. The reporter thought that
she was talking about Prince Harry, so he got the
nickname the ginger Crunch from Crossing.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean that shows that they are you know,
I'm sure they're just real people, you know, Like, yes
they have again they have a thing that their jobs
where the actors or Yal family has put them on
a real public profile.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
I think it's really.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Funny though, because we even then. I don't know if
you know this, but me and Jing got an award
from Her Majesty the Queen US. We were supposed to Buckingham,
so we did some stuff with obviously with Harry and Meghan,
and then we went and met with the Royal Foundation,
which is the people that they were doing stuff with.
But yeah, the award from the Queen. We were supposed
to go and receive it in Buckingham, but it was
(27:40):
in COVID so we couldn't.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
So I arrived at our house in the post cracked
and this like it was so bad, and I was like,
this is from the Palace and it's like in this
little weird no. But it's got a little Queeny's signature
on it, ri ip.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
But what was it?
Speaker 5 (27:56):
It was an award for our service to mental health
as well in the Commonwealth.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah, if you want to each, you just wonder share
one each. That's good, that's good.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
It is a great time.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
You've done a lot of reality TV. What was harder
learning dancing steps and dancing with the stars or going
without much food on Celebrity Treasure.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Celebrity Treasure Island really, oh my gosh, learning dance steps
through the day, and.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
I mean Dancing with the Stars was rough, like that's
eleven hour like eleven hour days, eleven weeks, like you
don't have a single day because we were in rehearsals
before anything was an hours and so it was crazy
TikTok TikTok Dancing the.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Stars and it was live as well, which was scary show.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
That TikTok Dancing the Stars. Just put it up, who
gets the most views over a week?
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Great idea, dance, don't I see it?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
I was like, please dig up, don't you go on that.
You've tried to stay in my brain though dancing obviously
it does with you. You know you can learn.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Steps, managed to do it Treasure Island. First of all,
I'm like, there's so many reasons that I could. I
was just terrible. I had just had COVID as well,
Like I was pushed out a day from going because
I had COVID, and then you know, I'm asthmatic, I'm
disleeks like I'm adhd.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
My hand was broken and so trying to do anything
was was so hard.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
But I think, yeah, living on rice and beans and
I've got I'm allergic to seafood and so like people
were trying to catch fish and I was like, well,
I can't you know, eat any of that. And then
you're doing these big endurance challenges and yeah, it's like
it's crazy. You get like we got emergency evacuated one night,
and it's just you just cry every day.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I feel like for TV, they would go and stop
record and then be like all right, guys, great, shoot,
let's go to the airbnb, the hotel. Nah, but it's
like it's legit. You guys are in there.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
We you don't have pillows. I think that was the
big thing, like you had, and I was just like
could no, No, you weren't allowed. So you had to
like roll up sweatshirts and like just try to use that.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
And then you're allowed to bring like a pillow case
and stuff it with clothes.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
So that's what some people did. I didn't know this information,
and so I'm going to out myself here. When we
got emergency evacuated and we went to the hotel howls.
I took the hotel. I was like, I'm so sorry,
I will pay the hotel mat. They have so many
of them because some people did that.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
But yeah, you just kind of had to like roll
up like cloth, yeah and then just kind of use
it as the case and yeah, like school camp, they
give you a list of going all these are all
the things.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
You kind of yes, but I've got so much stuff
taken off me because they bag search you as if
you were like coming into a new country and you've
got all the illegal stuff. So like I had like
baby wipes got taken off me because they could be
used as toilet paper.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
I use toilet paper.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
I was like, this is all like no mirrors, but
they us have makeup so you could do your makeup
without any mirrors, which was I just was like this,
maybe you could like smash the mirror something well a
year or like maybe the mirror would start a fire
if you know.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
And where we were and Wonnaca like it's quite dry land,
but it was. I think Slippertish Ryland was the hardest
thing I had done you ever done, absolutely like it
was wild. Would I do it again? Probably because it's
I love that kind of thing. It's fun, but it
definitely takes.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
It before we go. I want to fire at you,
Sam quick fire questions to find out if I really
want to be like you.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
This game is called this or that?
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Okay, Ready, TikTok or Instagram TikTok, Harry Styles or Harry Potter,
Harry Styles, Okay, Dandles or Crocs, Crocs, Minecraft or Fortnite.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
I haven't played either.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Prime Energy or Frank Green Drink Bottle, Frank Green everyone.
I love Frank Emotion or support water Okay, Kindle or
a real book, Real book, Netflix or Snapchat, Netflix, air
pods or a zero point five photo.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Zero point five is the new Well, it's probably not
feel like I've just got on to it. It's very
cool high angle stuff.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Yeah, but I have my AirPod Maxes, which I love.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Like those different.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
Yeah, it is a different. Okay, I'm gonna get in
that case. I'm going to do zero point five.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
But also all right, sleep in or.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Stay up late, sleep and Barby movie or Fast and Furious,
Prince Harry or Prince William. They're probably not going to
hear that.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
You know, she think he wants is going to do
the chocolate either, we don't want to know that. How
about we don't know? Answer that one? We don't want
to cause another incidental incident.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
It's the final JOHNO will be in, can't there?
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yes, thank you so much for what you did.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I definitely want to be like you because you have
so many people. What you do now literally saves lives.
Thank you for sharing your story and giving people hope.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
How cool is Jazz? Do you see why I want
to be like her?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
She is cool? But also she chose you over me?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Right?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Yeah? Now, really inspiring us so much great advice from Jazz,
and I actually found really interesting Her answer about how
she choose to help people over anything that she's achieved
personally is yeah, awesome.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
It shows what a sort of person she is.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
You know, so settled, you want to grow up and
you want to be Jess Lawnton.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Right.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Well maybe, but there's lenchy of other inspiring people who I.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Could be like, Oh, so we're doing this again, aren't we?
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Yeah, don't forget to like and subscribe or you'll miss out.
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