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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This Gentleman Being podcast. Hey, that's us broad to you
by Hello Fresh the Experts and Tastes that kiwis love
all black legend in Jones joining us.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
In this studio.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
And you bought a like I was going to say
a little guest, but a big special guest with it
with yourself.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Thanks so much being hay Meaghan. I cannot come just
on my own right, I think you'd be fine. Yeah,
I couldn't bring scones. I bought the Breeders Cup. Pretty
special to all backs, pretty special to New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
And it is a huge truffle. I've never like you
see it on TV. You see the captains lifting it up,
but it is massive.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
But you gotta remember on TV being the captain's a
massive yeah, Karen Reid, Yeah here you know, big men,
big trophy.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
I couldn't lift it above my head. No, I couldn't
lift it very far, to be honest, it's very bias.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
And when you did lift it, you felt on point,
You feunta and sink. You felt like you could have
been there lifting it.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, I imagine there's been a few beers over the
years drunk out. It would actually hold quite a lot
of liquid, wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
It well being?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
And the thing about a test match the build up
Monday to said that it is heart it is stressful.
So yep, when you do win, you have to celebrate,
right and that is a message for everyone. Hit a goal,
tap yourself on the back, celebrate that goal and yep
sometimes that thing does get filled up.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I find confusing though, is the Bleederslow Cup is huge,
but then when you see the World Cup it's very little.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Mean you're a Lady of the World silver. Yeah, oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
The World Cup is gold, yeah, gold, blingy and beautiful.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
That's what the Cup's great. But the World Cup, yeah,
they got a finer. So All Blacks Experience is something
that you're now the general manager of it.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, and that's superstoke.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So All Blacks Experience based in the sky City, pres
think come on and they're all the time, come for
a chat, even if you have to YouTube who I am,
come for a chat.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It's this amazing interactive experience. Ben it.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
It is his fantastic hits to the core. And that's
like I say to share my wide, all Blacks wide.
You know, you go into the start and you leave
just absolutely buzzing and deep to the heart because you
take you to the making. How do you make an
all black or black fern? Well, how you make a
regular player or any sports person or even a radio
DJ has let them fall in love with what they do.
(02:14):
Once you absolutely love it, you're into it, then we
play shape and how do you shape that love into
the skills that you two have right here or the
all black Black fans have lots of little games and
then a real special treat at the end being I
want you to bring you in because you sit in
the changeings. What is it like being an all black
You know, when you put that all black jersey on
for the first time, you feel like Superman. You're almost invincible, right,
(02:36):
and you walk down the tunnel, start to hear the anthem,
start to hear the crowd noise, all those anxieties kind
of come back, and then you stand and face the hacker,
both all blacks and black Ferns, and it is just
mind blowing. So you leave that you are an all
Black Black Ferns fan.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Forever do you remember the first moment putting on the
jersey and having that moment in yourself the first time
you put on the all black jersey.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Do you remember absolutely?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It was a long time ago, in nineteen eighty nine.
I was actually presented my jersey by Buckshelf of the
captain at the time, So that was a pretty special treat.
And you just kind of looked at it and you
almost think this isn't real, But then you put it on.
The instant I put it on, I kind of knew
were never going to lose. It was almost that mindset. Okay,
(03:21):
clearly sometimes you did, but I never lose this jersey.
You look around these men and you literally do grow
ten foot tall.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah I'm nearly there, yeah quite tall.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, but you feel so strong, so powerful, and so connected.
It has an amazing experience. And yet you come down
anyone who comes along. You sit in those chain rooms
and you realize, if you're in all black change rooms, right,
you're good. But we want people to be great, and
here you go from good to great? Is handle those
moments walking down that tunnel. You know you shrive or
(03:55):
some people tense up and never hit your peek. Well
that's what people find out walking down the tun It
is so so inspiring.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
A very cool thing, a very unique thing that we
have here. On offer in New zeal And the all
Blacks experience and you being in charge. Now, what are
they getting here? Like putting a paper in the photocopy,
cleaning the bathrooms? I mean, what's the things you.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Have to do? But I opened up this morning.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I'm there dust tackling people coming out they come on in.
But the best thing we've got coming out there school holidays.
Of course, because I'm there, I can do things.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I want to do.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Right, So hey, kids come free or one kid per
one adult come free because I want them to be inspired.
I want them to kind of feel the all Blacks
and the Black fans values. But you've heard about the
week book stat attacks, right, big cards been around a
long long time on Wednesday and Thursday of this week.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
So ten am through to five pm, come along. They
can weep big stat attacks, big activation. There.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Kids can make up their own cards, so you might
have a Ben Boys Legends.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Card or make your own.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
It's a thing here we're giving away because this is
me being we can give away things when the general manager.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
There's going to be some gold cards.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
So if into the week Big stat attack and you
know who the gold card is, Doctor far Apartment, his
card's going to be down there, so come on and
do the tour, buy yourself a jersey, get into the week,
big stat attack, be inspired and you may even recognize
who I am.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
And obviously though people can see like the letters of
a cup and other trophies on display.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yep, that's one of the best things about opening the
All Black experience up until then, and not just New
Zealand Rugby, but all organizations around the world. We used
to hide our trophies in the corporate offices. Now we
can display them. So I'm going to have the breathers
a cup out during the week. I even rang Richard
McCall last week, and I've got the twenty fifteen Rugby
World Cup, so you can come along take a photo
(05:48):
of that, which he said, no problems whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Just don't letting the Australians to touch it was his message.
He doesn't hold on to it the different World Cups.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
So for every time you win a Wi Cup eighty
seven for US twenty eleven, twenty.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Fifteen, you get the real, the gold one megan.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
For a year with security guards, then you get this
beautiful replica.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Okay, So I rang.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Up Richie because he was a captain of course, Hey Richie,
can we display and for these people who come along
for the week bookstat attack Wednesday Thursday, can they take
photos of the World Cup? And he said, no problems,
what's amazing.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So there we go.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
We're going to have the better of the cup, have
a photo with it once again, no Australians to touch
and we'll have the World Cup. But come along man
and all this week. Parents if you know, or caregivers, grandparents,
what do you want to do with those kids in
the holidays? Bring them down, We'll look after them for
a couple of hours. They'll have the time of their life.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
It's a really cool thing.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
You can see how excited you are now doing it,
which is great.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, well it's just so powerful.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
It's not just about rugby, right, It's just about who
we are as keywis the values that we share, the.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Culture of the team, of the country every step of
the way. Our guides.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I don't actually say our guides are world class because
they're not. They are all black class and that is
high and you could ever get and they just share
their stories or you know, have a chat to them
about different things. We've got jes Zys here that they
can take a look at touch field and just you
want that buzz. You know when you go to a
game for the first time and head along to a
(07:23):
test match, there's always that buzz and anticipation.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
That's what we want to feel every time.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
It's just it's so cool and to see not just kids,
but see people walk out the end just connected to
who New Zealand Rugby is all Blacks, the Black Ferns,
the Mighty team, absolutely connected to our teams in black.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It is beautiful. Man. I am so proud when people
come out like that. I feel that.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
To me, you're You're a legend as well.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Like when I first started wanted to get into TV,
I was I made a crappy pilot for a pop sport,
you know the show that I have the first Well yeah,
and well that was the thing, but no experience. Really
just had a dream of being on TV and we
rang around a few people to make this pilot for
free and in Jones, one of my heroes, said yes
to being in this.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Pilot for nothing.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Came along to a flat, a scungy flat in the
North Shore that we were filming it at. It was
amazing what you did and you know, I think we
had the skip one hundred and one uses for in
Jones because he was so tall, and so we had
you like getting cats out of trees and like holding
things out of reach of children because you're tall.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
But it was a wonderful thing that you did, so
thank you. And the one I loved about that was
the lighthouse. Yeah, it was just so tall. It was
all about the fact you were so tall. Next door,
so no, come along.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I mean absolutely phenomenal to just come up and say
I'm always there are lots of all blacks and black
ferns just come walking around the place because the all
Blacks experience was built on the legacy of all the
players have worn black, so it's their space and Auckland,
so there's lots of players was coming around using my office,
using using my ten coffee.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
So if you see Ian Jones there, ask him if
you can use his wife.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, all black experience. I've got some dub so passes,
some family passes to give away. Just before you go,
we talk about weep bik stats. Do you remember some
of your stats? And my three some questions yep, go away?
How many tests did you play?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Was it seventy nine, Yes, it was, so.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
How many games did you play for New Zealm?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I know that one hundred and five? Well don't yeah,
there you go. Okay are your all black debut? Do
you remember what year it was? Yep?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Nineteen eighty nine. It was against the Cardiff Rugby Club
at Cardiff Hoos.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Oh, you're right, and your actually all black test? It
was the year after, yeah, nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
The unique thing about my all black debut was in
a white all black jersey. Oh, Scotland, I scored a
try on debut fifty tests later.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
On the same ground, on the same blader grass. It
is the same opposition. Scotland scored another try. So you
know your stats? How many test drice did you overall? Nine? Yeah? Nine?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
And finally you scored three tries in a Super rugby game,
a Super twelve rugby game in nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Who are you playing a game? I do remember? That
was at and Hamilton against New South Wales. Was the words.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
There you go? You know, hey, wonderful to see you again.
It's really really awesome what you're doing. And people should
get along school holidays sounds like a great time.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Come on down, got blas her cap, got the World Cup,
got the week books that attack. Of course, we've also
got some signed jerseys that we can give away plenty
to do so Sky said, you pre think and the
other thing because I'm just at Libert now and I'm
sure Sky said, you will be happy with this.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Free parking on Instagram.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I'll give them free parking if they come down, do
a tour well off in free parking the details later
to just tell.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Them the Camo kids just come again, the All Blakes experience,
go along the school holidays and this week of course
the special wheetbooks thing they're doing as well.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Sounds awesome. Nice to see you again, Thanks very much,