Joe brought up an amazing experiment by Konstantin Kisin that showed how personal perception can cause victimhood if it's enforced. This is being used against Tim Scott and the kids in our country. The media tells them that unless you're the exception, you can't make it in America. You'll hear from Tim Scott responding to some of these comments from the media and the guys break it down in full.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tim Scott is running for president as well, a highly
esteemed gentleman from South Carolina Senator beautiful life story, fabulous.
He's a black man, very admirable guy. The left is
now attacking him viciously for daring to be a black Republican,
and they're doing so in horrible, inexcusable ways. And coming
up will feature one of the worst stupidest things ever
(00:23):
said by a white person about a black person. One
of the worst stupidest things ever said. I stand by
those words. It is monumental in its idiocy. But first
I thought this was an interesting way to frame the question.
This is the writer and thinker Constantine kiss and talking
(00:43):
about a psychological study. I think he does a pretty
good job of explaining it. Clip number fifteen, Please m dog.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
They did an experiment with a group of women, and
they put scars on their faces. And they told these
women that they're going into a job interview, and the
purpose of the experiment is to find out whether people
with facial disfigurements faced discrimination. They showed them the scars
in the mirror. The women saw themselves with these cars,
and as they led them out of the room, they said,
which is going to touch it up a little bit,
(01:10):
and as they touched it up, they removed this car
in completely. So the women went into the job interview
thinking that they are scarred, but actually being their normal selves.
And the result of the experiment is that those women
then came back reporting massively increased level of discrimination. Indeed,
they many of them came back with comments that the
interviewer had made that they felt were referencing their facial
(01:36):
And this is why I think this ideology of victimhood
is so dangerous, because if you preach to people constantly
that we're all oppressed, then that primes people to look
for that.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, of course, that last party said, I think we
all intuitively believe that, but that example there is wild.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
But that's an incredibly revealing study and it makes perfect
intuitive sense. Something, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Not the least bit surprising. Yeah, if you're a woman
and you're convinced the world is stacked against women, you're
gonna interpret all kinds of things that happen as particularly
to you because you're a woman. Yeah, but if you
focus on it all the time, you're gonna see it
where it ain't.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So anyway, Oh, what to finish my thought is, obviously
it'd be idiotic to deny that there's racism. But I
tell you what, and I say this to people of
color as a white guy. I've been white since the
day I was born. Actually, I'm pleasantly kind of peachy pink.
But if your boss is a jerk to you, or
your interviewer seems cold and like not listening to you
(02:33):
very well, or your coworkers giving you funny looks, that
that happens to us too. Lots of people are just jerks,
and I think you're pretty safe if you just assume
that people are jerks and not racists, and anyway, don't
let them hold you back because you're cool and they're
(02:53):
a jerk anyway. Moving along, So, a couple of things
about Tim Scott had been said on The View lately
that have been absolute inexcusable. Let's start with sixty three Michael.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
One of the issues that Tim Scott has is that
he seems to think because I made it, everyone can
make it, ignoring again the fact that he is the
exception and not the rule. And until he is the rule,
she has, then he can stop talking about steps Grace
Clarence Thomason.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
That's so stupid. Tim Scott, the grandson of sharecroppers, grew
up in the racist South, made a great life for himself.
And then this, this is joy Behar, who has reached
new heights of freaking stupidity. How this woman still has
a job is beyond me. This is one of the
most racist, stupid things I've ever heard.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
And he's one of these guys who you know, he's
like Clarence Thomas, black Republican who believes in pulling hisself
by your bootstraps rather than to me understanding the systemic
racism that African Americans face in this country. Another minoritist.
He doesn't get it. Neither does Clarence, right, and that's
why they're Republicans.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, but you do get it as a rich, old
white woman in New York.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Oh yeah, she gets it way better than Tim Scott
gets it got.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
In the sixties in the South as a black man.
Doesn't understand the level of racism that exists. But you do.
How does that work? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I'm a bit of a wordsmith, and I feel like
I am failing to adequately convey how horrifying, moronic, and
unforgivable that sentiment is. Anyway, Let's let Tim Scott speak
for himself. Starting with sixty Michael.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
Yah thinking about the fact that I'm uniquely qualified to
attack the radical of Lut's approach to victimhood. The culture
of victimhood and the narcotic of despair is spreading like
a cancer throughout this nation. My life disproves their lives
having come from a birth at home, having broken pieces
made whole. Because America is the land of opportunity, not oppression.
(04:57):
I want to make sure that every single child across
this nation and the porta zip codes, from the top
of the food chains to the bottom, have a chance
to live their American dream. That means stepping up to
the plate and providing hope, opportunity and protecting the America
that made me possible.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
You know, you go.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
You know, if you're Joey Behar or her crowd, you
don't like that message that is so odd and sickening.
You don't like that message. You prefer a message of
and you can't make it in this country.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, and I've explained why I think that is so insidious,
why it's feeding children poisoned. Tim Scott in sixty one
explains to his view of it.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
The truth of the matter is that their comments are offensive,
They are dangerous, and they're disgusting. Why are they dangerous
When you tell young African American kids that there's no
chance to make it to the top unless you're the exception,
that is a lie from the pit of hell. It's
dangerous because kids today they actually live down to the
(05:53):
lowest level of expectations of their leaders. We need to
tell kids the truth that in America you can go
as high as your character, your talent, and your grit
will take you.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
So that explains why it's dangerous. Tim why is it
so offensive.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
And here's why it is offensive. To look around that
news show two African American females sitting on that stage,
multi millionaires telling the rest of us that you can't
make it in America unless you're the exception. I'm sorry,
yesterday's exception is today's rules. All things are possible in
today's America.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
It is so ugly what the left is pitching people,
whether on the racial stuff or the sexual gender stuff.
This is a different topic, but to systematically communicate to
kids that they can't make it. I've said this many times,
and it's funny. The liberal media loves these stories some
inner city school that was utterly failing, but now it's
(06:50):
doing a fabulous job and the kids are learning, and
they're enrolling in colleges at unprecedented rates and it's an
incredible success story. It always is the same story. It's
some dynamic principle or set of leaders who decide, no,
we're not gonna pitch to the kids they can't succeed.
We're gonna tell them we expect you to succeed, we
believe you can succeed, and we're gonna help you succeed.
(07:13):
They set the buy the bar high. The kids say
I can reach that bar, and they do. But those
become independent thinkers. Those kids, they're not on the government plantation.
They're not dependent, they're not slaves to that message of failure.
So they're useless to politicians, and they're useless to media
(07:36):
types who are selling that poison. That's why they despise
Tim Scott so much, because he's such an eloquent and
undeniable refutation of the garbage they're pitching. God bless him.
You tell them, Tim
Tim Scott is running for president as well, a highly
esteemed gentleman from South Carolina Senator beautiful life story, fabulous.
He's a black man, very admirable guy. The left is
now attacking him viciously for daring to be a black Republican,
and they're doing so in horrible, inexcusable ways. And coming
up will feature one of the worst stupidest things ever
(00:23):
said by a white person about a black person. One
of the worst stupidest things ever said. I stand by
those words. It is monumental in its idiocy. But first
I thought this was an interesting way to frame the question.
This is the writer and thinker Constantine kiss and talking
(00:43):
about a psychological study. I think he does a pretty
good job of explaining it. Clip number fifteen, Please m dog.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
They did an experiment with a group of women, and
they put scars on their faces. And they told these
women that they're going into a job interview, and the
purpose of the experiment is to find out whether people
with facial disfigurements faced discrimination. They showed them the scars
in the mirror. The women saw themselves with these cars,
and as they led them out of the room, they said,
which is going to touch it up a little bit,
(01:10):
and as they touched it up, they removed this car
in completely. So the women went into the job interview
thinking that they are scarred, but actually being their normal selves.
And the result of the experiment is that those women
then came back reporting massively increased level of discrimination. Indeed,
they many of them came back with comments that the
interviewer had made that they felt were referencing their facial
(01:36):
And this is why I think this ideology of victimhood
is so dangerous, because if you preach to people constantly
that we're all oppressed, then that primes people to look
for that.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well, of course, that last party said, I think we
all intuitively believe that, but that example there is wild.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
But that's an incredibly revealing study and it makes perfect
intuitive sense. Something, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Not the least bit surprising. Yeah, if you're a woman
and you're convinced the world is stacked against women, you're
gonna interpret all kinds of things that happen as particularly
to you because you're a woman. Yeah, but if you
focus on it all the time, you're gonna see it
where it ain't.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So anyway, Oh, what to finish my thought is, obviously
it'd be idiotic to deny that there's racism. But I
tell you what, and I say this to people of
color as a white guy. I've been white since the
day I was born. Actually, I'm pleasantly kind of peachy pink.
But if your boss is a jerk to you, or
your interviewer seems cold and like not listening to you
(02:33):
very well, or your coworkers giving you funny looks, that
that happens to us too. Lots of people are just jerks,
and I think you're pretty safe if you just assume
that people are jerks and not racists, and anyway, don't
let them hold you back because you're cool and they're
(02:53):
a jerk anyway. Moving along, So, a couple of things
about Tim Scott had been said on The View lately
that have been absolute inexcusable. Let's start with sixty three Michael.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
One of the issues that Tim Scott has is that
he seems to think because I made it, everyone can
make it, ignoring again the fact that he is the
exception and not the rule. And until he is the rule,
she has, then he can stop talking about steps Grace
Clarence Thomason.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
That's so stupid. Tim Scott, the grandson of sharecroppers, grew
up in the racist South, made a great life for himself.
And then this, this is joy Behar, who has reached
new heights of freaking stupidity. How this woman still has
a job is beyond me. This is one of the
most racist, stupid things I've ever heard.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
And he's one of these guys who you know, he's
like Clarence Thomas, black Republican who believes in pulling hisself
by your bootstraps rather than to me understanding the systemic
racism that African Americans face in this country. Another minoritist.
He doesn't get it. Neither does Clarence, right, and that's
why they're Republicans.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, but you do get it as a rich, old
white woman in New York.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Oh yeah, she gets it way better than Tim Scott
gets it got.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
In the sixties in the South as a black man.
Doesn't understand the level of racism that exists. But you do.
How does that work? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I'm a bit of a wordsmith, and I feel like
I am failing to adequately convey how horrifying, moronic, and
unforgivable that sentiment is. Anyway, Let's let Tim Scott speak
for himself. Starting with sixty Michael.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
Yah thinking about the fact that I'm uniquely qualified to
attack the radical of Lut's approach to victimhood. The culture
of victimhood and the narcotic of despair is spreading like
a cancer throughout this nation. My life disproves their lives
having come from a birth at home, having broken pieces
made whole. Because America is the land of opportunity, not oppression.
(04:57):
I want to make sure that every single child across
this nation and the porta zip codes, from the top
of the food chains to the bottom, have a chance
to live their American dream. That means stepping up to
the plate and providing hope, opportunity and protecting the America
that made me possible.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
You know, you go.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
You know, if you're Joey Behar or her crowd, you
don't like that message that is so odd and sickening.
You don't like that message. You prefer a message of
and you can't make it in this country.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, and I've explained why I think that is so insidious,
why it's feeding children poisoned. Tim Scott in sixty one
explains to his view of it.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
The truth of the matter is that their comments are offensive,
They are dangerous, and they're disgusting. Why are they dangerous
When you tell young African American kids that there's no
chance to make it to the top unless you're the exception,
that is a lie from the pit of hell. It's
dangerous because kids today they actually live down to the
(05:53):
lowest level of expectations of their leaders. We need to
tell kids the truth that in America you can go
as high as your character, your talent, and your grit
will take you.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
So that explains why it's dangerous. Tim why is it
so offensive.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
And here's why it is offensive. To look around that
news show two African American females sitting on that stage,
multi millionaires telling the rest of us that you can't
make it in America unless you're the exception. I'm sorry,
yesterday's exception is today's rules. All things are possible in
today's America.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
It is so ugly what the left is pitching people,
whether on the racial stuff or the sexual gender stuff.
This is a different topic, but to systematically communicate to
kids that they can't make it. I've said this many times,
and it's funny. The liberal media loves these stories some
inner city school that was utterly failing, but now it's
(06:50):
doing a fabulous job and the kids are learning, and
they're enrolling in colleges at unprecedented rates and it's an
incredible success story. It always is the same story. It's
some dynamic principle or set of leaders who decide, no,
we're not gonna pitch to the kids they can't succeed.
We're gonna tell them we expect you to succeed, we
believe you can succeed, and we're gonna help you succeed.
(07:13):
They set the buy the bar high. The kids say
I can reach that bar, and they do. But those
become independent thinkers. Those kids, they're not on the government plantation.
They're not dependent, they're not slaves to that message of failure.
So they're useless to politicians, and they're useless to media
(07:36):
types who are selling that poison. That's why they despise
Tim Scott so much, because he's such an eloquent and
undeniable refutation of the garbage they're pitching. God bless him.
You tell them, Tim
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