June 12, 2023 • 10 mins
This whole Trump thing is getting ugly. He apparently kept a box of documents next to his toilet.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So I'm gonna ask you for your favorite single nugget
of the weekend. Here's mine. Trump has a chandelier over
his toilet. I think that's just.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Fantastic. Wow. If you've said no, if you've.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Seen the picture with the box of documents, the one
in the bathroom, not the one in the closet or
on the stage or whatever, the ones that are in
the shower. In the bathroom includes a picture of the
far enough back you see there's a chandelier over the toilet.
I like the lighting I would have for my reading. See,
you started the show with a showstopper. I'm not playing
(00:35):
your game. You've already beat me. Why you could come
up with something of importance?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I center so well, all right, then, at the risk
of turning things serious, my nugget has got to be
what the former Trump Attorney general, who was lamb basted
for lamb bastard for years as just a prostitute for Trump,
a lying partisan wreck, Bill Barr said over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
And keeping in mind that Bill Barr called the brag
indictment the last indictment politicized which hunt joke. Yes, he says,
of this one, if half of it is true, Trump
is toast, which is quite a deal. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, of course, Worth pointing out that when the president,
when the prosecution gets the stage, they generally come off
as pretty impressive, but then the defense gets to volley
it back and that's when things get complicated. So I'm
taking a weight and see attitude, are you I am?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah. If the AG says, if half of it's true,
he's toast, that's that's rough.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Some of the evidence is incredibly damning and undermines the
very defenses that have been trotted out thus far.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Right, and we will definitely go through some of that.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Now, those of you screaming at the radio and or
at your ear pods or iMac or whatever the hell
you listen on, Yeah, there's a lot of hypocrisy, there's
a lot of double standards. Jack Smith is an interesting
character and pretty political. There's a lot of flotsom in
the stew of justice here that makes it distasteful. And
(02:15):
that's you know, My main theme is we have so
muddied and poisoned the waters of our political discourse. I'm
not sure there's bouncing any bouncing back from it, or
not anytime soon. No, so much bad will right Jonathan
Turley yesterday on the Fox News Sunday Show, and he's
(02:36):
got some strong words about how damning this indictment is
and how rough it looks.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And he's another guy that called the last indictment and
come on, this is it. This is a joke.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
It has been strenuously defending Trump.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, it's been saying of this one ooof this is rough,
this is really rough. This is bad, and said this
could be terminal for Trump. He wouldn't have to get
found guilty of much of what's out there at his age,
and he'd be in prison for the rest of his life. Wow,
which is act of a thing. And then the politics
(03:08):
part of it, of course, that he could win in
the indictment, like it's almost certainly going to happen after
the election. Is that what you take away from this
from listening to legal pundits.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, the defense has every interest in the world in footdragging.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Right, you have a right to a speeded trial if
you want it, but if you don't want it.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You can waive it and then you know, spend months
and months and months on discovery and whatever else.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, So that's an underappreciated angle of this whole thing
that the trial is not going to start until after
the election. So then it goes one of two ways.
If Trump wins, he pardons himself. If he loses, First
(03:52):
of all, for the most part, I wouldn't think to
be near the heightened interest in it would there if
he loses the presidential election. I mean, Trumpeter's always going
to want to see him behind bars, But I mean
his political career is over if he loses. Just from
age yeah, I'd agree on both counts. I think some
of the energy will go out of it. MSNBC will
(04:14):
be desperate to bring it back somehow. But if he
loses the presidential election has found guilty, then Joe Biden's
in the Gerald Ford position of do I pardon this
guy just so we can move on as a country
and not have a trial, or do I not?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I'm sorry who's in that position? Joe Biden? Why would
he be in that position from beyond the grave as
a former president in some sort of home. He's not
going to be the president again, He's not even running.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I just feel like I'm sitting here choking down the
spicy times and somebody walks up with a full canister
of those red pepper flakes. You know, Satan is lurking
in the back of the restaurant saying, you think that's spicy,
And he sends out the pepper fleets and just dumps
it right in the middle of the plate. Chowdown, son,
too spicy.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Is it common to have a chandelier over the toilet?
You've been in a lot more fancy houses than I have.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I just I'm very fancy, as you know it is.
I would say that is the That is the height
of luxury. A man can poop knowing he's made it
rice pooping under a chandel.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I think I would be sitting there looking up, thinking
this is the greatest number two of my life.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Now if I had a wine cellar in my bathroom,
that would be even better. A chandelier and a wine cellar.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
So, if I could ask Donald Trump one thing, it
would be why didn't you just give him back? Why
ain't you just give him back? Dude? Oh my god,
why didn't you just give him back?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I know it's because he is a practically obsessive collector
of memorabilia. Is that it? That's it? He had the
coolest job in the universe. The known universe. Uh, and
it's desperate to keep some really cool memorabilia. I believe that.
I know it sounds absurd, but I think that's just
(06:11):
the simple truth. But just the way he presented it
to people, the way he told him about it. This
stuff's really really cool. It's super secret and the most
damning and undermining thing. It's on tape him saying, yeah,
I could have declassified this as president, but now I can't.
But anyway, it's a blankety black take a look.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, how do you get around that? So my other
favorite part, though, is I've I've taken in a whole
bunch of different lawyers talking this and that. But David
French of the New York Times, who's a never Trumper,
on a podcast over the weekend, him and a couple
(06:53):
other people said, the biggest problem is Hillary should have
been charged. They should have charged Hillary. Hillary was guilty.
You remember that. I'll never forget that James Comy press conference.
I was on vacation. I was like driving through Death
Valley with the kids. I remember listening to it and
and and him laying it out and think, oh boy,
here it comes, and then him saying, but we've decided
(07:15):
not to charge her. What Whit's like you just laid
out like fifteen different reasons. But the fact that he
didn't charge her, that's what makes this so ugly.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
While she was grotesquely, horrifyingly unethical, stupidly inexplicably dishonest, and
mind bogglingly dirty in every fashion, we will not charge her,
right exactly, And as I think about our listeners and folks,
you know, across the fruited plain, and some of you
are probably already pissed off at us for not taking
(07:46):
a more staunchly pro Trump We're always right, they're always
wrong attitude. That's just not the way I see this one.
But how can you ask anybody to say, all right,
we need to look at this one in an honest
and even handed way. The well is poisoned, The public
square is radioactive with dishonesty and hypocrisy and one sidedness.
(08:11):
It's just and you know, while we're talking about the
Trump documents thing, those who have so poisoned the public
well or square or whatever metaphor I was torturing, they
need to be held responsible for their cynical, cynical manipulation
of the media and the rest of it and leaving
(08:32):
us in a situation where you've got to be either
saint like or a professional analyst to be able to say, yeah,
all the rest of them are horrifyingly unfair, dishonest, they cheated,
they broke the law. Their people should be in jail.
But let's look at this one and not even handed
an open hearted way, right, I mean, that's hard.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I wish that's such an underappreciated point. I wish more
of the punditry on the left would acknowledge that. Look,
the Brag thing, the Stormy Daniels, all that.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Is just crap, just crap. Even the first impeachment was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
You see, you go through all that crap and then
expect people to have, as you said, like an open
mind about the next one. Come on, good lord, Yeah,
what a terrible If you're out to get Trump, having
a BS indictment like the brag Stormy Daniels thing be
your first swing at it, and all the media attention
is sure a good way to end up with a
(09:29):
cynical population that's gonna roll their eyes at this one.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Maybe we should ask the fifty one current and former
intelligence officials what they think of the validity of.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Right and the Hunter Biden laptop. There's so many examples. See,
you can't you can't play unfair for so long and
then expect people to think. But in this case, I'm
sure you're being fair and right.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Right, So a lot of people, a lot of Americans,
a lot of our listeners out that think all right,
So Trump fed up, probably, But we're in a brick
fight at this point. We're not gonna apologize and say
that's our bad, sorry about that. We're in a fight
to the death, which is not a good way to
run the politics of a republic.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I've never been in a brick fight, thank god.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Not pleasant
So I'm gonna ask you for your favorite single nugget
of the weekend. Here's mine. Trump has a chandelier over
his toilet. I think that's just.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Fantastic. Wow. If you've said no, if you've.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Seen the picture with the box of documents, the one
in the bathroom, not the one in the closet or
on the stage or whatever, the ones that are in
the shower. In the bathroom includes a picture of the
far enough back you see there's a chandelier over the toilet.
I like the lighting I would have for my reading. See,
you started the show with a showstopper. I'm not playing
(00:35):
your game. You've already beat me. Why you could come
up with something of importance?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I center so well, all right, then, at the risk
of turning things serious, my nugget has got to be
what the former Trump Attorney general, who was lamb basted
for lamb bastard for years as just a prostitute for Trump,
a lying partisan wreck, Bill Barr said over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
And keeping in mind that Bill Barr called the brag
indictment the last indictment politicized which hunt joke. Yes, he says,
of this one, if half of it is true, Trump
is toast, which is quite a deal. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, of course, Worth pointing out that when the president,
when the prosecution gets the stage, they generally come off
as pretty impressive, but then the defense gets to volley
it back and that's when things get complicated. So I'm
taking a weight and see attitude, are you I am?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah. If the AG says, if half of it's true,
he's toast, that's that's rough.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Some of the evidence is incredibly damning and undermines the
very defenses that have been trotted out thus far.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Right, and we will definitely go through some of that.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Now, those of you screaming at the radio and or
at your ear pods or iMac or whatever the hell
you listen on, Yeah, there's a lot of hypocrisy, there's
a lot of double standards. Jack Smith is an interesting
character and pretty political. There's a lot of flotsom in
the stew of justice here that makes it distasteful. And
(02:15):
that's you know, My main theme is we have so
muddied and poisoned the waters of our political discourse. I'm
not sure there's bouncing any bouncing back from it, or
not anytime soon. No, so much bad will right Jonathan
Turley yesterday on the Fox News Sunday Show, and he's
(02:36):
got some strong words about how damning this indictment is
and how rough it looks.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And he's another guy that called the last indictment and
come on, this is it. This is a joke.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
It has been strenuously defending Trump.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, it's been saying of this one ooof this is rough,
this is really rough. This is bad, and said this
could be terminal for Trump. He wouldn't have to get
found guilty of much of what's out there at his age,
and he'd be in prison for the rest of his life. Wow,
which is act of a thing. And then the politics
(03:08):
part of it, of course, that he could win in
the indictment, like it's almost certainly going to happen after
the election. Is that what you take away from this
from listening to legal pundits.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, the defense has every interest in the world in footdragging.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Right, you have a right to a speeded trial if
you want it, but if you don't want it.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You can waive it and then you know, spend months
and months and months on discovery and whatever else.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, So that's an underappreciated angle of this whole thing
that the trial is not going to start until after
the election. So then it goes one of two ways.
If Trump wins, he pardons himself. If he loses, First
(03:52):
of all, for the most part, I wouldn't think to
be near the heightened interest in it would there if
he loses the presidential election. I mean, Trumpeter's always going
to want to see him behind bars, But I mean
his political career is over if he loses. Just from
age yeah, I'd agree on both counts. I think some
of the energy will go out of it. MSNBC will
(04:14):
be desperate to bring it back somehow. But if he
loses the presidential election has found guilty, then Joe Biden's
in the Gerald Ford position of do I pardon this
guy just so we can move on as a country
and not have a trial, or do I not?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I'm sorry who's in that position? Joe Biden? Why would
he be in that position from beyond the grave as
a former president in some sort of home. He's not
going to be the president again, He's not even running.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I just feel like I'm sitting here choking down the
spicy times and somebody walks up with a full canister
of those red pepper flakes. You know, Satan is lurking
in the back of the restaurant saying, you think that's spicy,
And he sends out the pepper fleets and just dumps
it right in the middle of the plate. Chowdown, son,
too spicy.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Is it common to have a chandelier over the toilet?
You've been in a lot more fancy houses than I have.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I just I'm very fancy, as you know it is.
I would say that is the That is the height
of luxury. A man can poop knowing he's made it
rice pooping under a chandel.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I think I would be sitting there looking up, thinking
this is the greatest number two of my life.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Now if I had a wine cellar in my bathroom,
that would be even better. A chandelier and a wine cellar.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
So, if I could ask Donald Trump one thing, it
would be why didn't you just give him back? Why
ain't you just give him back? Dude? Oh my god,
why didn't you just give him back?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I know it's because he is a practically obsessive collector
of memorabilia. Is that it? That's it? He had the
coolest job in the universe. The known universe. Uh, and
it's desperate to keep some really cool memorabilia. I believe that.
I know it sounds absurd, but I think that's just
(06:11):
the simple truth. But just the way he presented it
to people, the way he told him about it. This
stuff's really really cool. It's super secret and the most
damning and undermining thing. It's on tape him saying, yeah,
I could have declassified this as president, but now I can't.
But anyway, it's a blankety black take a look.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, how do you get around that? So my other
favorite part, though, is I've I've taken in a whole
bunch of different lawyers talking this and that. But David
French of the New York Times, who's a never Trumper,
on a podcast over the weekend, him and a couple
(06:53):
other people said, the biggest problem is Hillary should have
been charged. They should have charged Hillary. Hillary was guilty.
You remember that. I'll never forget that James Comy press conference.
I was on vacation. I was like driving through Death
Valley with the kids. I remember listening to it and
and and him laying it out and think, oh boy,
here it comes, and then him saying, but we've decided
(07:15):
not to charge her. What Whit's like you just laid
out like fifteen different reasons. But the fact that he
didn't charge her, that's what makes this so ugly.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
While she was grotesquely, horrifyingly unethical, stupidly inexplicably dishonest, and
mind bogglingly dirty in every fashion, we will not charge her,
right exactly, And as I think about our listeners and folks,
you know, across the fruited plain, and some of you
are probably already pissed off at us for not taking
(07:46):
a more staunchly pro Trump We're always right, they're always
wrong attitude. That's just not the way I see this one.
But how can you ask anybody to say, all right,
we need to look at this one in an honest
and even handed way. The well is poisoned, The public
square is radioactive with dishonesty and hypocrisy and one sidedness.
(08:11):
It's just and you know, while we're talking about the
Trump documents thing, those who have so poisoned the public
well or square or whatever metaphor I was torturing, they
need to be held responsible for their cynical, cynical manipulation
of the media and the rest of it and leaving
(08:32):
us in a situation where you've got to be either
saint like or a professional analyst to be able to say, yeah,
all the rest of them are horrifyingly unfair, dishonest, they cheated,
they broke the law. Their people should be in jail.
But let's look at this one and not even handed
an open hearted way, right, I mean, that's hard.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I wish that's such an underappreciated point. I wish more
of the punditry on the left would acknowledge that. Look,
the Brag thing, the Stormy Daniels, all that.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Is just crap, just crap. Even the first impeachment was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
You see, you go through all that crap and then
expect people to have, as you said, like an open
mind about the next one. Come on, good lord, Yeah,
what a terrible If you're out to get Trump, having
a BS indictment like the brag Stormy Daniels thing be
your first swing at it, and all the media attention
is sure a good way to end up with a
(09:29):
cynical population that's gonna roll their eyes at this one.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Maybe we should ask the fifty one current and former
intelligence officials what they think of the validity of.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Right and the Hunter Biden laptop. There's so many examples. See,
you can't you can't play unfair for so long and
then expect people to think. But in this case, I'm
sure you're being fair and right.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Right, So a lot of people, a lot of Americans,
a lot of our listeners out that think all right,
So Trump fed up, probably, But we're in a brick
fight at this point. We're not gonna apologize and say
that's our bad, sorry about that. We're in a fight
to the death, which is not a good way to
run the politics of a republic.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I've never been in a brick fight, thank god.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Not pleasant
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