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July 19, 2023 5 mins

Marc Andreessen says that the creative arts will enter a golden age as they have now figured out how to produce entertainment and music faster than ever before. If everyone can use AI to "create" how does anything take talent anymore?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So this guy Mark and Dreesen, he's one of your
venture capitalist tech geniuses who became a billionaire, and he's
weighing in on AI, and he thinks he is going
to make everything's a lot better for humanity as opposed to,
oh my god, it's going to ruin the world. And
here's a couple of examples. We mentioned some of them earlier.
If you didn't hear, you can get the podcast. The
creative arts will enter a golden age.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Okay, no, they won't.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
As AI augmented artists, musicians, writers, and filmmakers gain the
ability to realize their visions far faster and at a
greater scale than ever before.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
So if all of a sudden, I can write a
brilliant symphony, so can you, Soak and Michael Soak and Katie.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
That doesn't make any sense to me. No, And what
he said, what you said, what you said makes absolute sense.
What he said doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
If it's effortless, it's valueless, and it's they would be everywhere.
Would that be a golden age of art? Maybe it
would be in a way if everybody can create a
mona Lisa. Perhaps, Although I know you think that Mona
Lisas is over overrated.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Clap clap, clap, clop clap. That's what I chant when
I'm in the loof.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Sure, sure they appreciate that. Okay, I'll go on. I
won't quibble with everything. The guy says, it's it's stopped
provoking stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, that one. Maybe maybe it comes down to whether
you believe humanity is uniquely special and important versus computers.
Maybe that's where he and I differ on all this stuff.
It's the argument that Elon Musk's been happening having with
Larry Page, the guy one of the Google founders. If
you believe ai Hey, quit elevating human beings above computers.

(01:41):
I do. I do elevate human beings above computers. But
if you don't, if you see us as equals or whatever,
then maybe you don't care. If everybody gets their compassion
from a computer like this guy was talking about, or
if computers create all the art, what's the difference between
computers creating the great music or humans. I think there's
a huge difference.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Well, yeah, whether it's the Rolling Stones, Exile on Main
Street or Beethoven's Sixth Symphony. Part of the enjoyment of
It is kind of a wonder and awe that somebody
could make something that good. And if computers are churning
it out on a second by second basis, who cares.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
It would still be.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
It could still be the same in terms of musical appeal,
I guess, but won't it.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Come too fast? So if a computer can crank out
all the greatest music, I can't say to you, hey,
have you heard the new album from this computer? You'd say, right, well,
have you heard the new album from this computer or
the other one million that just got produced in the
last hour while we were talking.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I don't know exactly what that's gonna be. I don't
know if people know this. I was doing a lot
of music, including some electronic music a couple of years ago,
and they can't. You can like have a drum beat
or a synthesizer going blah blah blah blah blah blah
or whatever, and you can program in whatever degree of
imperfection you want. So I was thinking, you know, like

(03:05):
the Rolling Stones Exile on Main Street probably my favorite
album of all time. The imperfections of it show the
humanity and you can picture the people making it right there,
and it's you're there with them because of the both
the perfection and the imperfection. It's humans doing it, and
that's part of the wonder. Oh my god, people just

(03:26):
like me did something this great. But if it's computers,
oh yeah, that's programmed to make Keith's voice wobble a
little bit in that chorus. Yeah, Okay, I don't know,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Please Hammer don't hurt him. That's my favorite album of
all time.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
That's it's a fine choice.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Here's a more controversial one that I really don't agree with.
I even to this guy, back to his theme that
AI is gonna make everything better for mankind. I even
think AI is going to improve warfare when it is
when it has to happen, by reducing wartime death rates dramatically.
Every war is characterized by terrible decisions made on your
intense pressure and with sharply limited information by very limited

(04:03):
human leaders. Now military commanders and political leaders will have
AI advisors that will help them make much better strategic
and tactical decisions, minimizing risk, error and unnecessary bloodshed.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
I respond as follows, and I dedicate this response to
our good friend Tim sanderfer A taste of Armageddon, one
of the greatest Star Trek episodes of all time, in
which these two societies had been at war computer versus computer,
and the computers spit out how many people need to
die and if your people lose five thousand people in

(04:38):
a bombing raid, they're just ushered into chambers and snuffed.
And then the next battle takes place and the computers
split out how many people on Plutron five have to
die and they just snuff them, and that avoids all
the chaos and ugliness of war. Well, Kirk comes along
and crew and they smash up the computer and say,
the only way you can stop killing each other is

(04:59):
if you kill each other for real, with all the
ugliness involved. Otherwise she's just gonna keep doing this fascinating
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