There was a hearing held in southern California yesterday where the Gold Star Families of the Marines lost during the horrific pull out of Afghanistan, spoke for the first time. The people in charge need to be held accountable.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There was a hearing in Escondido, California yesterday. It's a
suburb of San Diego. If you're not familiar with the area,
held by darryl Isa, congressperson in that area. And let's
go ahead and let Ayisha Hasny of Fox News set
it up. Clip number sixty.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Michael, when our leaders called this evacuation a success, it
is like a knife in the heart.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Pain, anger, and grief as the gold Star families of
thirteen US service members killed by a suicide bomber at
Kable Airport tell their stories together in public for the
first time.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
My son was only twenty years old.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Relatives testifying and a hearing hosted by Congressman darryl Isa
near Camp Pendleton, where many of the troops were based.
They say they waited two years for the Biden administration
to explain its decisions leading up to that catastrophic bombing.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
So it's it's notable that only Fox Knew is broadcast
this hearing, which was moving and went straight to any
patriot's heart, any parent's heart for that matter. And I
understand the political nature of it because the Biden administration
(01:18):
bungled the withdrawal terribly, terribly and blamed the Trump administration
in ridiculous fashion. They could have adapted, changed, utterly torn
up any agreement, any sub agreement, never mind the strategy
for executing the agreement with the Taliban. The entire thing
(01:43):
was a terrible indictment of the Biden administration, and America
has reacted to its approval numbers plunged and have not
really rebounded much at all. So there's no denying the
partisan aspect of this. It's a shame that the partisan
flavor is there, because I just think Number one, a healthy, functioning,
(02:07):
powerful military is absolutely necessary. It's an existential need. And
to have the civilians at the top of the chain
of command apparently refusing to engage in the sort of
accountability that the military depends on completely, that's incredibly wrong.
(02:28):
That is so wrong. That is the fish rotting from
the head first. As I was mentioning earlier in the hour,
accountability is everything in the military. You've got to be
accountable for your actions. Everybody's counting on everybody. It's life
and death, and no matter how far up the chain,
you have to go to figure out, all, right, where
did the problem happen? How do we fix this? Going
(02:50):
forward and make sure it never happens again. You've got
to have that in the military, and Biden and company
are refusing to let that happen. We're going to give
you some of the samples of what the gold Star
family said yesterday. We'll start with sixty eight Michael. It's
a montage of a handful.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Of people call this evacuation a success, as if there
should be celebration. It is like a knife in the heart.
My son loved this country as much as he loved
his family.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I expected the government to love my son as much
as I do.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
How could so many people pay their respects but nothing
at all from the President of the United States. I'd
be like, avenge me have the biggest smile, and now
I hear is him and his soul. Avenge me thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
We could play the testimony all day, but there was
one dad in particular who we chose to feature. His
name is Darren Hoover. His son Taylor died there at
the Kabul airport. Start with the sixty five Michael, and
play all three, but will pause between.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
The most recent administration. Department of Defense in the Marine
Corps did not uphold their end of that contract I
know there are those that will say that Taylor and
his brothers in arms signed on the dotted line. I
knew the consequences that could occur, as we have been
at war for twenty years, and they would be correct.
(04:29):
But this didn't need to happen in the manner that
it did. And for those who had power over our
military know that they made a conscious decision that led
to the chaotic and frantic withdrawal from Afghanistan. For the
Secretary of Defense General Austin, the head of the Joint
(04:52):
Chiefs of Staff, General Millie, to say that they're satisfied
with the withdrawal of our troops nothing short of disgusting
and ignorant. Retired Marine Corps General Mackenzie can be included
in this as well, as these were his marines and
(05:16):
he should have known better.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Let's roll on with Darren Hoover, Michael.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
With all of these generals having approximately ninety years of
experience combined, and to come up with the plan that
they attempted to carry out is despicable. And to say
to Congress that they thought it was a good withdrawal
are sorely, sorely mistaken. Then to have individuals like John
(05:47):
Kirby come in and say that he did not see
from the chaos from his perch is both tone deaf
and ignorant.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
And then go ahead with the last one.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I'm calling out Secretary Blincoln, Secretary Austin, General Millie, General Mackenzie,
Lieutenant Colonel whitead who could not give the order to
the snipers to take out the bomber before he detonated
(06:21):
his vest, and ultimately the President do what our son did.
Be a grown ass man, Admit to your mistakes, learn
from them so that this doesn't happen ever, ever again.
(06:45):
You all need to resign immediately. Our sons and daughters
have more integrity in their little toes than every one
of them combined.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Wow. So sorry for the loss of all of those families.
I'm trying to remember. It's flitted out of my head
for some reason. The book, both Jack and I read
about trying to get people out of Kabul in the
(07:17):
final days. Oh my goodness, you know what. I'll look
it up and i'll hit you with it next segment.
But the striking part was the story of private citizens,
many of them ex military ex intelligence, who had connections
in Afghanistan, connections with the military, trying to get translators out,
human rights workers, just people that they had personal relationships
(07:41):
with who've been working with the US and needed to
get out because the tally ban would kill them. And
it was a story of utter chaos, no accountability. There's
that word again. There were no procedures, there were no plans.
If you knew a dude from officer training school, or
you served together for a couple of years in an
(08:03):
intelligence out post, or it was your cousin's, you know,
girlfriend's brother, that's how you got somebody out. Because and
I will absolutely admit it was going to be somewhat
chaotic even under the best circumstances, but it didn't need
to be a tenth as insane as it was. It
(08:25):
was going to be difficult, but it did not need
to be just a sea of chaos with the tally
ban providing security. What a miserable set of decisions that was.
But anyway, and mister Hoover there at the end referenced
the fact that one of our service people had the
suicide bomber in his sights and was asking for permission
(08:47):
because they weren't supposed to fire into the crowd unless
they got permission, and he was trying to get permission
to take this guy out, and not only could he
not get permission, nobody was quite sure who would grant
that permission. So it was like go into the you know,
your local building inspection office and saying, hey, why am
I my premise like three months overdue? What's happened to it?
(09:09):
And some you know bureaucrats saying we'll look into it.
Leave your number. And that was the guy who had
the suicide bomber in his sights and could have prevented
the deaths of thirteen people. Who's just chaotic and a
lack of accountability. And my god, if there's a hope
to cling to, it's that somewhere behind the scenes, out
(09:30):
of the political spotlight, there are serious people at a
high level who are honestly looking at what went wrong
and what should have been done. I pray that that's
the case. I have no evidence that it is
There was a hearing in Escondido, California yesterday. It's a
suburb of San Diego. If you're not familiar with the area,
held by darryl Isa, congressperson in that area. And let's
go ahead and let Ayisha Hasny of Fox News set
it up. Clip number sixty.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Michael, when our leaders called this evacuation a success, it
is like a knife in the heart.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Pain, anger, and grief as the gold Star families of
thirteen US service members killed by a suicide bomber at
Kable Airport tell their stories together in public for the
first time.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
My son was only twenty years old.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Relatives testifying and a hearing hosted by Congressman darryl Isa
near Camp Pendleton, where many of the troops were based.
They say they waited two years for the Biden administration
to explain its decisions leading up to that catastrophic bombing.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
So it's it's notable that only Fox Knew is broadcast
this hearing, which was moving and went straight to any
patriot's heart, any parent's heart for that matter. And I
understand the political nature of it because the Biden administration
(01:18):
bungled the withdrawal terribly, terribly and blamed the Trump administration
in ridiculous fashion. They could have adapted, changed, utterly torn
up any agreement, any sub agreement, never mind the strategy
for executing the agreement with the Taliban. The entire thing
(01:43):
was a terrible indictment of the Biden administration, and America
has reacted to its approval numbers plunged and have not
really rebounded much at all. So there's no denying the
partisan aspect of this. It's a shame that the partisan
flavor is there, because I just think Number one, a healthy, functioning,
(02:07):
powerful military is absolutely necessary. It's an existential need. And
to have the civilians at the top of the chain
of command apparently refusing to engage in the sort of
accountability that the military depends on completely, that's incredibly wrong.
(02:28):
That is so wrong. That is the fish rotting from
the head first. As I was mentioning earlier in the hour,
accountability is everything in the military. You've got to be
accountable for your actions. Everybody's counting on everybody. It's life
and death, and no matter how far up the chain,
you have to go to figure out, all, right, where
did the problem happen? How do we fix this? Going
(02:50):
forward and make sure it never happens again. You've got
to have that in the military, and Biden and company
are refusing to let that happen. We're going to give
you some of the samples of what the gold Star
family said yesterday. We'll start with sixty eight Michael. It's
a montage of a handful.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Of people call this evacuation a success, as if there
should be celebration. It is like a knife in the heart.
My son loved this country as much as he loved
his family.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I expected the government to love my son as much
as I do.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
How could so many people pay their respects but nothing
at all from the President of the United States. I'd
be like, avenge me have the biggest smile, and now
I hear is him and his soul. Avenge me thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
We could play the testimony all day, but there was
one dad in particular who we chose to feature. His
name is Darren Hoover. His son Taylor died there at
the Kabul airport. Start with the sixty five Michael, and
play all three, but will pause between.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
The most recent administration. Department of Defense in the Marine
Corps did not uphold their end of that contract I
know there are those that will say that Taylor and
his brothers in arms signed on the dotted line. I
knew the consequences that could occur, as we have been
at war for twenty years, and they would be correct.
(04:29):
But this didn't need to happen in the manner that
it did. And for those who had power over our
military know that they made a conscious decision that led
to the chaotic and frantic withdrawal from Afghanistan. For the
Secretary of Defense General Austin, the head of the Joint
(04:52):
Chiefs of Staff, General Millie, to say that they're satisfied
with the withdrawal of our troops nothing short of disgusting
and ignorant. Retired Marine Corps General Mackenzie can be included
in this as well, as these were his marines and
(05:16):
he should have known better.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Let's roll on with Darren Hoover, Michael.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
With all of these generals having approximately ninety years of
experience combined, and to come up with the plan that
they attempted to carry out is despicable. And to say
to Congress that they thought it was a good withdrawal
are sorely, sorely mistaken. Then to have individuals like John
(05:47):
Kirby come in and say that he did not see
from the chaos from his perch is both tone deaf
and ignorant.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
And then go ahead with the last one.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I'm calling out Secretary Blincoln, Secretary Austin, General Millie, General Mackenzie,
Lieutenant Colonel whitead who could not give the order to
the snipers to take out the bomber before he detonated
(06:21):
his vest, and ultimately the President do what our son did.
Be a grown ass man, Admit to your mistakes, learn
from them so that this doesn't happen ever, ever again.
(06:45):
You all need to resign immediately. Our sons and daughters
have more integrity in their little toes than every one
of them combined.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Wow. So sorry for the loss of all of those families.
I'm trying to remember. It's flitted out of my head
for some reason. The book, both Jack and I read
about trying to get people out of Kabul in the
(07:17):
final days. Oh my goodness, you know what. I'll look
it up and i'll hit you with it next segment.
But the striking part was the story of private citizens,
many of them ex military ex intelligence, who had connections
in Afghanistan, connections with the military, trying to get translators out,
human rights workers, just people that they had personal relationships
(07:41):
with who've been working with the US and needed to
get out because the tally ban would kill them. And
it was a story of utter chaos, no accountability. There's
that word again. There were no procedures, there were no plans.
If you knew a dude from officer training school, or
you served together for a couple of years in an
(08:03):
intelligence out post, or it was your cousin's, you know,
girlfriend's brother, that's how you got somebody out. Because and
I will absolutely admit it was going to be somewhat
chaotic even under the best circumstances, but it didn't need
to be a tenth as insane as it was. It
(08:25):
was going to be difficult, but it did not need
to be just a sea of chaos with the tally
ban providing security. What a miserable set of decisions that was.
But anyway, and mister Hoover there at the end referenced
the fact that one of our service people had the
suicide bomber in his sights and was asking for permission
(08:47):
because they weren't supposed to fire into the crowd unless
they got permission, and he was trying to get permission
to take this guy out, and not only could he
not get permission, nobody was quite sure who would grant
that permission. So it was like go into the you know,
your local building inspection office and saying, hey, why am
I my premise like three months overdue? What's happened to it?
(09:09):
And some you know bureaucrats saying we'll look into it.
Leave your number. And that was the guy who had
the suicide bomber in his sights and could have prevented
the deaths of thirteen people. Who's just chaotic and a
lack of accountability. And my god, if there's a hope
to cling to, it's that somewhere behind the scenes, out
(09:30):
of the political spotlight, there are serious people at a
high level who are honestly looking at what went wrong
and what should have been done. I pray that that's
the case. I have no evidence that it is
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