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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So I got on this kick when sixty Minutes did
that story a couple of weeks ago about people need
to find jobs to make the heart sing. I got
my dream job, let me check, let me put my
shirt aside. Here my heart is not singing, not even hum.
And it was all about the great resignation, the big quit,
the millions of people that have quit their jobs. And
(00:21):
if you have been able to quit your job and
get a better one that either pays more or you
like better, awesome for you. But this change in attitude
about work that seems to be happening, where it's got
to be a job that just makes your hearts sing
or or or better to stay at home and then
uh or And you know, I might argue there are
(00:42):
some people who think, if I'm not just fully realizing
my potential as a human through my work, my life sucks.
This is not the way things. Things have gone terribly
wrong just through crazy expectations. Yeah, well yeah yeah, Stories
like that one in sixty Minutes are certainly putting those
expectations in people's head. And then we were reading from
(01:03):
this Wall Street Journal article yesterday was about the number
of men that aren't working, men that are in the
prime of working age life that aren't working. As I
already mentioned, we have a lower percentage of men in
the prime of their working years not working than we
did during the Great Depression, which is stunning and um.
This guy named ever Stat has written a book about it,
(01:26):
and he's quoted in a lot in the World Wall
Street Journal. I wanted to read this part because I
thought it was pretty important. As he ended this, the
widespread contempt for many ordinary jobs maybe making the problem worse.
Journalists and economists who cheer on the Great Resignation often
stigmatize work in the same breath. Writing off low paid
jobs is not worth taking. It's astonishingly condescending to say
(01:48):
that some work is meaningless, and it shows an astonishing
ignorance of how other people live. It's wonderful that millions
of people are finding better work, but there are millions
more who could fill the jobs they're vacating, and disdain
low skilled work helps keep those people away. Instead of
stigmatizing low skilled jobs, we should do better to stigmatize idleness,
especially a young among working age men. Not long ago,
(02:11):
the idea that one and eight men, because that's the
current stat one and eight men should be neither working
nor looking for work would have been absolutely a horrifying prospect.
We should re embrace the prospect that could do a
lot of good for our economy. So extrapolating that is
I think about it. I gotta believe culturally, right now,
if you're if you're a twenty five year old male
(02:32):
who lives with your parents, there's less social pressure on
you than if you're a twenty five year old male
who has a really uncooled job. Oh, I see what
you're saying, Like you have more social credit living in
your parents basement and not having a job than if
you worked at McDonald's. Whereas when I was young, which
isn't a hundred years ago, you wouldn't think the culture
(02:55):
could change that much. The idea I was never ever
once around somebody I was twenty seven years old, who
is my age who lived with their parents ever, and
it would have been just what now, I mean, unless
they were like special ed or something, it would have
been what what They'd have to be pretty severely handicapped
for that to be the case, right, Um, But if
(03:17):
you worked a fast food job or something like that,
you got a job, you're just you know, I don't.
It wouldn't have been that big a deal, but now
it's I think the culture has changed. And part of that,
as that author points out, there is the way the
media economists handle it. They they disdain those jobs. They
talk about those jobs as there as if they're beneath you.
We've been doing the whole um jobs Americans won't take
(03:38):
spiel for decades now, and convincing a lot of Americans
that now you don't need to do that kind of work.
You don't know, they'll cleaning up hotels or restaurant worked
out better, better to not work at all, you know.
I think it may be part and parcel of a
lot of things we're seeing these days, including the Republican
Party becoming much worth the party of the working class.
(04:00):
And that's that, you know, college educated, suburban paternalistic superiority syndrome.
You know you've got a women's studies degree from Ivy
League school or something like that. These people are convinced
they are better than everybody else, smarter and can tell
us how to run our lives. And I think that
relates to some stuff we'll be talking about the next hour.
(04:22):
Attitudes about COVID and lockdowns and regulations and such. So
that's just catching up from something we talked about later
in the show yesterday. Then I came across this just
randomly yesterday. I think I saw it on Twitter. Hey
Fox is talking about us. It's the anti work subreddit
on on Reddit that has one point seven million idlers.
It says here, uh, and the description is it's a
(04:44):
subreddit for those who if you don't know Reddit, and
I just became aware of Reddit recently. Maybe I'm the
last one of the party. But it's just a gazillion
different forums of different topics, and you can create your
own one and maybe it catches on a subreddit for
those who want to end work, are curious about ending work,
want to get the most out of work free life,
want more information on anti work ideas and what personal
(05:06):
help with their own jobs work related struggles. Since this
is radio, I've got to tell you I'm making an
expression like how does that work? I mean it's like
it's like there's an anti breathing sub credit and people
say I've given up breathing. I haven't breathed for three
or three days. I'm like, how does that work? Yeah?
The forum's slogan, according to Wikipedia, is unemployment for all,
(05:28):
not just the rich. Wow, and not only is it
celebrating the idea of not working in a society where
people don't have to work, like the did putin start
this and we just have enough slackers that joined on
and made it run or I don't know what. UM
members frequently discussed ways to slack off, cheat, sabotage, and
(05:50):
steal from their employees employers as an act of defiance.
So if you do have a job, you need to
sabotage your employer, because how dare they make you do
something that's not making your heart sing? Let exchange for money.
Let me just go through some of the posts, just
random posts, and I god, I could have spent all
night on this thing. Uh. Some girl named sid posted
(06:12):
who has a rose next to her name. Imagine if
we worked less. Imagine if we walked around our communities,
talked to our neighbors, spent time in nature, played. Imagine
if we could read write fall in love without that
nagging feeling of needing to do something in quotes. Imagine
if your life was your own. Imagine growing up you
little punk. Imagine she I can't tell how old she is.
(06:35):
She's young, early twenties. Imagine getting to your early twenties
without having come up against an explanation of how that's impossible. No,
at no point, your parents, a teacher, college, nothing ever
explained to you how you're you're you're describing. Imagine if
we could all fly and then we'd be able to
get places without cars, you might as well say the
same thing, that would be way better for pollution. Uh,
(07:00):
all you I and this is a different person all you.
I never used a sick day in my life. Folks
are only screwing yourselves as well as the rest of us.
Listen to me. It's not noble to break your body
for your employer. It's not admirable to brag about netting
only twelve hours sleep in the past week. You're not hustling.
You're a pawn, a p on a worthless cog that
(07:20):
we'll get tossed away. Wow, boy, you're putin troll theories. Interesting.
That sounds like straight out of you know, Carl Marks.
Most of the people I know who use few to
know sick days are I would define them as successful,
is what I would define them as. Yeah, boy, that
imagine girl with her rose. Imagine Lepricns feeding Pixie dust
(07:42):
Ty in a carns. What are you talking about the child? No,
imagine if you could poop gold bars. Wow, the pain,
the pain? Okay, small gold bars better. They got a
cartoon here. It's actually a Hankhill cartoons. But the coins
like I'm a slot machine to King Ching Ching ching ching. Uh.
(08:05):
They got a cartoon here. It's actually Hank Hill and
his son. I've watched the King of the Hill in many,
many years. What's this up? Bobby? Uh? And Bobby and
and and and Hanker talking to some guitar player guy.
And the guitar player guy is labeled as hustle culture.
They use this term a lot on the anti work reddit.
Hustle culture, which we've all been brainwashed to do. And
(08:27):
it's making America worse. You're not making jobs better, You're
just making living worse, he says to hustle culture. Um.
And then another cartoon. My parents in their twenties. Let's
have a baby. Me and my twenties. Going to sleep
is cheaper than buying food because of rampant starvation all
(08:47):
across America among people in their twenties. Wow, this is
what it looks like ancient Rome. Yeah, I get it. Yeah,
this is what it looks like. And this is what you're.
This is what you're. You're you're twenty year old who
got the graduate degree, who lives in your basement, is
doing at night before they go to sleep there on
this subreddit posting or reading here's somebody working your whole
(09:09):
life just to enjoy a few years when you're close
to death. Is one of the biggest scams. Okay, So
all of life in society owes you the opportunity for idleness.
Getting back to the Wall Street Journal article Craft of Society,
where you get a certain number of years of idleness
provided to you by somebody, How does that work? Well?
(09:30):
Show me the being, the animal, even the amba that
exists without effort to feed itself, that there aren't any
And that's why, man, I'd like to talk to these people.
What's the alternative? What do you envisioned to explain it
in detailed place. I'll do one more of these because
I could do this all day long. It's just it
was blowing my mind. I'm loving this. Um, here's one
(09:52):
where they break down the expenses. There there are McDonald's
employee Apparently either there are McDonald's employer they're tweeting on
behalf of another in McDonald's play another hot early twentysomething chick.
Uh savings hundred dollars, mortgage rent six hundred dollars, car
payment hundred fift dollars. Adds it all blah blah blah
blah blah, what I make a minimum wage? So that's
perpetuating the old myth that your minimum wage jobs are
(10:15):
designed for you to be able to live off of,
or even support a family on. According to some you
know way lefties. Uh yeah, like you just brought up.
I don't I feel like I could argue, not even argue,
just convince these people of the error of their position
with like a chalkboard And in fifteen minutes, just where
(10:39):
do you expect You're you're not gonna work, who's going
to provide the home that you're living in? This whole
idol lifestyle, the neighborhood you're gonna walk around? Who's how
you're gonna pay their fair share? Oh? That could be
it that they could be under the under the belief
that there is just so much extra tax money out
there among the rich that but I would the rich
(11:00):
continue to go to work every day so that you
can walk around the neighborhood and fall in love and
all the stuff that you described without working. I know
you described it as an error in their thinking. It's
an impossibility. It's it's just bizarre. It's hard to know
where to begin arguing the point. Yeah, so between the
disdain for certain kinds of jobs and be just wildly
(11:23):
unicorn like view of how people feed themselves. I don't
know where we're headed. I don't know what percentage of
people feel this, but well, we we have a bigger
percentage of working age men not working than we did
during the Great Depression. So it's here. Well, if hard
times truly come, they'll be disabused of their notions in
(11:44):
a big hurry. To paraphrase Thomas Sowell, there are some
ideas so idiotically an intellectual could hold them. I think
this is one of them.
So I got on this kick when sixty Minutes did
that story a couple of weeks ago about people need
to find jobs to make the heart sing. I got
my dream job, let me check, let me put my
shirt aside. Here my heart is not singing, not even hum.
And it was all about the great resignation, the big quit,
the millions of people that have quit their jobs. And
(00:21):
if you have been able to quit your job and
get a better one that either pays more or you
like better, awesome for you. But this change in attitude
about work that seems to be happening, where it's got
to be a job that just makes your hearts sing
or or or better to stay at home and then
uh or And you know, I might argue there are
(00:42):
some people who think, if I'm not just fully realizing
my potential as a human through my work, my life sucks.
This is not the way things. Things have gone terribly
wrong just through crazy expectations. Yeah, well yeah yeah, Stories
like that one in sixty Minutes are certainly putting those
expectations in people's head. And then we were reading from
(01:03):
this Wall Street Journal article yesterday was about the number
of men that aren't working, men that are in the
prime of working age life that aren't working. As I
already mentioned, we have a lower percentage of men in
the prime of their working years not working than we
did during the Great Depression, which is stunning and um.
This guy named ever Stat has written a book about it,
(01:26):
and he's quoted in a lot in the World Wall
Street Journal. I wanted to read this part because I
thought it was pretty important. As he ended this, the
widespread contempt for many ordinary jobs maybe making the problem worse.
Journalists and economists who cheer on the Great Resignation often
stigmatize work in the same breath. Writing off low paid
jobs is not worth taking. It's astonishingly condescending to say
(01:48):
that some work is meaningless, and it shows an astonishing
ignorance of how other people live. It's wonderful that millions
of people are finding better work, but there are millions
more who could fill the jobs they're vacating, and disdain
low skilled work helps keep those people away. Instead of
stigmatizing low skilled jobs, we should do better to stigmatize idleness,
especially a young among working age men. Not long ago,
(02:11):
the idea that one and eight men, because that's the
current stat one and eight men should be neither working
nor looking for work would have been absolutely a horrifying prospect.
We should re embrace the prospect that could do a
lot of good for our economy. So extrapolating that is
I think about it. I gotta believe culturally, right now,
if you're if you're a twenty five year old male
(02:32):
who lives with your parents, there's less social pressure on
you than if you're a twenty five year old male
who has a really uncooled job. Oh, I see what
you're saying, Like you have more social credit living in
your parents basement and not having a job than if
you worked at McDonald's. Whereas when I was young, which
isn't a hundred years ago, you wouldn't think the culture
(02:55):
could change that much. The idea I was never ever
once around somebody I was twenty seven years old, who
is my age who lived with their parents ever, and
it would have been just what now, I mean, unless
they were like special ed or something, it would have
been what what They'd have to be pretty severely handicapped
for that to be the case, right, Um, But if
(03:17):
you worked a fast food job or something like that,
you got a job, you're just you know, I don't.
It wouldn't have been that big a deal, but now
it's I think the culture has changed. And part of that,
as that author points out, there is the way the
media economists handle it. They they disdain those jobs. They
talk about those jobs as there as if they're beneath you.
We've been doing the whole um jobs Americans won't take
(03:38):
spiel for decades now, and convincing a lot of Americans
that now you don't need to do that kind of work.
You don't know, they'll cleaning up hotels or restaurant worked
out better, better to not work at all, you know.
I think it may be part and parcel of a
lot of things we're seeing these days, including the Republican
Party becoming much worth the party of the working class.
(04:00):
And that's that, you know, college educated, suburban paternalistic superiority syndrome.
You know you've got a women's studies degree from Ivy
League school or something like that. These people are convinced
they are better than everybody else, smarter and can tell
us how to run our lives. And I think that
relates to some stuff we'll be talking about the next hour.
(04:22):
Attitudes about COVID and lockdowns and regulations and such. So
that's just catching up from something we talked about later
in the show yesterday. Then I came across this just
randomly yesterday. I think I saw it on Twitter. Hey
Fox is talking about us. It's the anti work subreddit
on on Reddit that has one point seven million idlers.
It says here, uh, and the description is it's a
(04:44):
subreddit for those who if you don't know Reddit, and
I just became aware of Reddit recently. Maybe I'm the
last one of the party. But it's just a gazillion
different forums of different topics, and you can create your
own one and maybe it catches on a subreddit for
those who want to end work, are curious about ending work,
want to get the most out of work free life,
want more information on anti work ideas and what personal
(05:06):
help with their own jobs work related struggles. Since this
is radio, I've got to tell you I'm making an
expression like how does that work? I mean it's like
it's like there's an anti breathing sub credit and people
say I've given up breathing. I haven't breathed for three
or three days. I'm like, how does that work? Yeah?
The forum's slogan, according to Wikipedia, is unemployment for all,
(05:28):
not just the rich. Wow, and not only is it
celebrating the idea of not working in a society where
people don't have to work, like the did putin start
this and we just have enough slackers that joined on
and made it run or I don't know what. UM
members frequently discussed ways to slack off, cheat, sabotage, and
(05:50):
steal from their employees employers as an act of defiance.
So if you do have a job, you need to
sabotage your employer, because how dare they make you do
something that's not making your heart sing? Let exchange for money.
Let me just go through some of the posts, just
random posts, and I god, I could have spent all
night on this thing. Uh. Some girl named sid posted
(06:12):
who has a rose next to her name. Imagine if
we worked less. Imagine if we walked around our communities,
talked to our neighbors, spent time in nature, played. Imagine
if we could read write fall in love without that
nagging feeling of needing to do something in quotes. Imagine
if your life was your own. Imagine growing up you
little punk. Imagine she I can't tell how old she is.
(06:35):
She's young, early twenties. Imagine getting to your early twenties
without having come up against an explanation of how that's impossible. No,
at no point, your parents, a teacher, college, nothing ever
explained to you how you're you're you're describing. Imagine if
we could all fly and then we'd be able to
get places without cars, you might as well say the
same thing, that would be way better for pollution. Uh,
(07:00):
all you I and this is a different person all you.
I never used a sick day in my life. Folks
are only screwing yourselves as well as the rest of us.
Listen to me. It's not noble to break your body
for your employer. It's not admirable to brag about netting
only twelve hours sleep in the past week. You're not hustling.
You're a pawn, a p on a worthless cog that
(07:20):
we'll get tossed away. Wow, boy, you're putin troll theories. Interesting.
That sounds like straight out of you know, Carl Marks.
Most of the people I know who use few to
know sick days are I would define them as successful,
is what I would define them as. Yeah, boy, that
imagine girl with her rose. Imagine Lepricns feeding Pixie dust
(07:42):
Ty in a carns. What are you talking about the child? No,
imagine if you could poop gold bars. Wow, the pain,
the pain? Okay, small gold bars better. They got a
cartoon here. It's actually a Hankhill cartoons. But the coins
like I'm a slot machine to King Ching Ching ching ching. Uh.
(08:05):
They got a cartoon here. It's actually Hank Hill and
his son. I've watched the King of the Hill in many,
many years. What's this up? Bobby? Uh? And Bobby and
and and and Hanker talking to some guitar player guy.
And the guitar player guy is labeled as hustle culture.
They use this term a lot on the anti work reddit.
Hustle culture, which we've all been brainwashed to do. And
(08:27):
it's making America worse. You're not making jobs better, You're
just making living worse, he says to hustle culture. Um.
And then another cartoon. My parents in their twenties. Let's
have a baby. Me and my twenties. Going to sleep
is cheaper than buying food because of rampant starvation all
(08:47):
across America among people in their twenties. Wow, this is
what it looks like ancient Rome. Yeah, I get it. Yeah,
this is what it looks like. And this is what you're.
This is what you're. You're you're twenty year old who
got the graduate degree, who lives in your basement, is
doing at night before they go to sleep there on
this subreddit posting or reading here's somebody working your whole
(09:09):
life just to enjoy a few years when you're close
to death. Is one of the biggest scams. Okay, So
all of life in society owes you the opportunity for idleness.
Getting back to the Wall Street Journal article Craft of Society,
where you get a certain number of years of idleness
provided to you by somebody, How does that work? Well?
(09:30):
Show me the being, the animal, even the amba that
exists without effort to feed itself, that there aren't any
And that's why, man, I'd like to talk to these people.
What's the alternative? What do you envisioned to explain it
in detailed place. I'll do one more of these because
I could do this all day long. It's just it
was blowing my mind. I'm loving this. Um, here's one
(09:52):
where they break down the expenses. There there are McDonald's
employee Apparently either there are McDonald's employer they're tweeting on
behalf of another in McDonald's play another hot early twentysomething chick.
Uh savings hundred dollars, mortgage rent six hundred dollars, car
payment hundred fift dollars. Adds it all blah blah blah
blah blah, what I make a minimum wage? So that's
perpetuating the old myth that your minimum wage jobs are
(10:15):
designed for you to be able to live off of,
or even support a family on. According to some you
know way lefties. Uh yeah, like you just brought up.
I don't I feel like I could argue, not even argue,
just convince these people of the error of their position
with like a chalkboard And in fifteen minutes, just where
(10:39):
do you expect You're you're not gonna work, who's going
to provide the home that you're living in? This whole
idol lifestyle, the neighborhood you're gonna walk around? Who's how
you're gonna pay their fair share? Oh? That could be
it that they could be under the under the belief
that there is just so much extra tax money out
there among the rich that but I would the rich
(11:00):
continue to go to work every day so that you
can walk around the neighborhood and fall in love and
all the stuff that you described without working. I know
you described it as an error in their thinking. It's
an impossibility. It's it's just bizarre. It's hard to know
where to begin arguing the point. Yeah, so between the
disdain for certain kinds of jobs and be just wildly
(11:23):
unicorn like view of how people feed themselves. I don't
know where we're headed. I don't know what percentage of
people feel this, but well, we we have a bigger
percentage of working age men not working than we did
during the Great Depression. So it's here. Well, if hard
times truly come, they'll be disabused of their notions in
(11:44):
a big hurry. To paraphrase Thomas Sowell, there are some
ideas so idiotically an intellectual could hold them. I think
this is one of them.
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