Where Covid Came From

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The origin of the coronavirus. If you rolled your eyes,
I think you're making a mistake. Anybody, that's what what
difference does it make at this point where COVID came
from China. I think he couldn't be more wrong with
that attitude. It's the biggest catastrophe in world history dollar wise,

(00:22):
and maybe end up being a death wise, and knowing
how it got started seems crucial to me. I think
on its face that's important. Secondly, though, and maybe even
more interesting to me, are a bunch of other questions
the nature of communist systems and how dangerous they are,
and and it's illustrated beautifully by the early days of

(00:44):
the coronavirus. Uh. Secondly, how our government and our trusted
health officials have been complicit with the Chinese for various reasons,
which this report will get into. And Thirdly, how week
certain systems in America were, including our media and our

(01:04):
big tech, in silencing dissenting voices when those dissenting voices
were clearly speaking the truth. I think all of that
stuff maybe the story of this century if it gets
reported anywhere other than Fox. Yeah, I know, it's it's
just well, yeah, that is so troubling. So let's let's

(01:24):
dive into this. I'm not sure how much we'll play
for you, but it's really excellent. They did a nice
job a distilling down what happened. Let's start with the clips.
Seventy Michael January, the World first learns that patients in Wuhan, China,
are suffering serious complications from an unknown virus, and we
soon realize infections from a novel coronavirus are fueling a

(01:46):
fast spreading global pandemic. By mid month, the first US
case of COVID is reported in Washington State. Health experts
conclude the outbreak is due to human to human transmission.
Federal officials scrambling to can tainted spread are for mixed messaging.
We are urging China. More cooperation and transparency are the

(02:07):
most important steps you can take toward a more effective response.
It's really a big difference with the Chinese this this time.
Now they look like they're being quite transparent and cooperative
with us. But how did such a deadly virus emerge
so swiftly, so suddenly from a central Chinese province? So
that last part is the key part. You heard, what's

(02:30):
his face? The Q tip spokesman for the State Department,
talking about China's got to be more cooperative, more transparent.
You could hear the anger adamants in his voice. Then
wait a minute, how odd Dr Faucci saying China's being
transparent with us right now? There is there's no indication
of transparency from China from the very beginning that was that.

(02:53):
That is a flat outline right there, before you get
into anything complicated at all, that's a flat outline from R. Faucci.
Then you got to get to the why Why would
he claim China is being transparent when they weren't being
transparent in the least right, Um, let's go ahead, gosh,
let's go ahead with Seventy two hours later, Fauci convenes

(03:18):
a conference call with a dozen worldwide virologists recycle, bailout,
bail out of that, bail eat aboord aboard. I'm going
to characterize a clip seventy one jack, if that's all
right with you. Long story short. Eminent virologists were exchanging
emails and writing preliminary analyzes that said, Hey, the part

(03:40):
of this virus that cleaves to human cells and I
won't get into the microbiology of it, partly because I
only half understanding myself. But the part of this, the
grabby part that cleaves to human cells and allows the
virus to infect it, that specific part of its genome
occurs nowhere in nature. This has been engineered for the

(04:02):
purpose of studying UH infectious virus and viruses and how
to deal with them. This is gain of function research.
It's obvious to us. And then then as we go
back into clip seventy two, it's like forty eight hours
after this hits the scientific community that Fauci gathers these

(04:23):
people on the phone urgently. Hours later, Fauci convenes a
conference call with a dozen worldwide virologists. Notes of that
hastily arranged meeting obtained by Fox News reveals suspicions of
a Wuhan lab leak are suppressed over concerns that public
revelations of Chinese involvement would do quote great potential harm

(04:45):
to science and international harmony. Quote Further debate about such
accusations would unnecessarily distract top researchers from their active duties
and do unnecessary harm to science in general and science
in China and particular. But some immunologists are not convinced.
Dr Mike Farzen is quoted as saying, I think it

(05:06):
becomes a question of how do you put all this together,
whether you believe in this series of coincidences, what you
know of the lab in Wuhan, how much could be
in nature, accidental release or natural event. I'm seventy thirty
or sixty forty. Another scientist at the meeting, Dr Robert
Gary of Tulane University, is more adamant, quote, I really

(05:29):
can't think of a plausible natural scenario where you get
from the bat virus or one very similar to it,
to n c O v where you insert exactly four
amino acids twelve nucleotide that all have to be added
at the exact same time to gain this function. That
and you don't change any other amino acid in S two.

(05:52):
I just can't figure out how this gets accomplished in nature.
Of course, in the lab, it would be easy to
generate the perfect twelve based insert that you wanted. Founcy
and others point to evidence the virus may have originated
in a seafood and wild animal market in Wuhan, but
any scientific consensus is complicated by the market being shut

(06:12):
down and scrubbed clean by Chinese from there. Notice the
scientists came with specific virology micro bio facts and and
and data, and Fauci's response to them is, hey, this

(06:32):
could do harm to science, meaning the virology gain a function,
stuff that I have backed, we have funded indirectly and
I think is good work. This might do harm to
science and international harmony, international harmony. To ask the question
to state that which has been learned might harm international harmony.

(06:57):
Point of interest. Harmony is a word used over and
over again by the Chinese communists, meaning a society where
everybody does what they're supposed to and there's no unrest.
That's their favorite word. The fact that that Fauci would
use those two phrases is is devastating if you understand

(07:17):
their significant interesting I hadn't like to harm to science
to to follow a free inquiry. Well, a little follow
up to that. Dr Robert Redfield was on brett Bury
yesterday and talking about the two scientists you just heard
from what they were up to. You know, I think
one of the challenges is that they believed that somehow
they were helping science by not having science implicated as

(07:41):
potentially being the source of the pandemic to begin with.
And you know, this is what I've said before, Rather
than try to package something in a way that you know,
prevents people from thinking what you don't want them to think,
I think it's just much better to tell the truth.
And I don't think that was done here. So it's
hard to know what the motivation was for Fauci and

(08:03):
uh and company to try to cover this thing up.
You've thought that he just didn't want to be on
the hook for the biggest disaster in world history, the
biggest certainly the biggest human mistake in human history, be
out of doubt. I mean, there's there's not even a
close second for the biggest human mistake, unless you're gonna
count World War Two as a human mistake. Um uh.

(08:26):
Or it might be, as they're just describing there, that
he's just so worried about science. He he science is
so important to him, and the and the and the
and the you know, testing this and testing that, and
experimenting with various viruses. He just didn't want that to
go away science, so cover up the fact that there
was a huge mistake that's gonna kill millions of people
in cost trillions of dollars. Um, no, no, no, If

(08:50):
people find out that science sometimes goes wrong, that's gonna
hurt our scientist. I don't know what was motivating motivating him,
you know, I bring this up quite seriously, Um, frank
and Stein, the Mary Shelley novel and the the bolts
in his neck. Know that that Frankenstein was the doctor,
you idiot? So what that what that novel was about

(09:13):
to a large extent, And this has been known for
a very long time. And you know it's not exactly
an original thought, but scientists cannot be trusted to fashion
the ethics of science. Dr Frankenstein, who was conducting what
when the novel was written was considered unspeakably evil experiments,
kept it hidden because he thought the common people were

(09:37):
too stupid and backward to understand how important his work was.
And that is straight out of Fauci's book. Secondly, and
you know, Jackie, we can picture this easily because we
work with various companies and partners as part of our
whole thing we're doing right now. China, the Chinese government
was an enormously important partner in Fauci's work, and he

(09:59):
was not willing to throw them under the bus Um,
So I think you had the fact that he was
could be put on the hook for the greatest catastrophe
in human history as far as we can tell um
and it's his partners, and he doesn't want to set
back what he views as important research, the game function research.
One name we haven't mentioned, and I want to squeeze
this in real briefly. Peter Dazac, who was the you

(10:22):
know at where the rubber meets the road at the
Wuhan Institute. Fauci's guy being funded through your tax dollars talking.
I'm not sure it's numbered there. It's after eight six,
Michael Uh Peter Dazak talking about this is not some
sort of wild idea, um what the virologists were suggesting.

(10:44):
It happened with the gene sequence stuff we were talking about,
And I want to be precise. Nobody's talking about China's
military created this in a lab as a weapon. That
is kind of a whack of doodle conspiracy theory. No,
this is just aggressive science that slopped out outside of
the boundaries, got out of its lane. Go ahead. Coronius
is a pretty good I mean, you're alogies, you know

(11:05):
all the stuff they you can manipulate them in the
lab pretty easily. Spike protein drives a lot of what
happens with one of our zoonots at risk. So you
can get the sequence, you can build the protein, and
we work with Ralph bark At, you and sim to
do this and cert into one of another virus and
to do some work in the lab. So the idea

(11:28):
that that might have happened with all of the evidence
of the Chinese cover up and and and the rest
of it, the idea that that very inquiry should be silenced.
You know, you're not even allowed to answer to ask
the question. And that was that was enforced by Fauci

(11:49):
and Facebook and Twitter and ABCNBCCBS, the Washington Post, the
New York Times, the Biden White House for a long time.
That is the real crime. So the story of this
century is going to be the battle for supremacy between
autocracies and democracies and which system works better. Well, this

(12:12):
is a tough example of that, because you know, we've
implicated China and the communist system and how they cover
this sort of stuff up, and that system is not
good for that. But I'm not seeing our democracy system
be much better at this in terms of getting the
truth out. Are we capable of any more of doing that?
Or because people are so married to the idea of
Vauci was against Trump and I Trump, So no, we'ren't

(12:34):
even gonna look at this story. Well exactly. I was
just gonna say I could give you a nice type
paragraph three sentences on why the communist system yielded the
horrific result it did. It's easy if you study communism.
The explanation of how our system went so badly wrong is, well,
people hated Trump, and Trump said it might be a lablak,

(12:54):
which is so stupid and childlike and it makes you
want to tear out your hair. And I think that's
a pretty solid explanation. Well, so Fox obtained this new
information to craft this story the other day. Have you
seen anybody pick this up? I haven't seen it anywhere
in tweets or certainly in print anywhere. I wish I

(13:14):
had the Twitter mass or the something or other enough
to to rub the New York Times face in it,
to rub the wall post face in it, and and
ask why are you not covering it? And have them
take notice? And I'm perfectly, Hey, New York Times, you're
Washington Post, perfectly okay with So you bring out some
experts that argue why they're wrong, I'm fine with that.
But let's have the freaking discussion with the smartest people

(13:35):
for crying out loud and get to the root of
this