Where Covid Came From Part 2

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fox News had a feature last night on families living
with COVID and the effects and how miserable they are.
And they're the one mom my kids never had a
play date. He doesn't hug his friends, he doesn't notice
their faces look like why, because you're a crazy person
who doesn't understand science, is why. Anyway, That's not what
we're here to talk about. Don't give me a start.

(00:20):
So a couple of nights ago, special report with Brett
Bear did eate an absolutely fabulous job of boiling down
in an extended report um the facts having to do
with additional leaked emails that have come to like describing
the early discussions during the COVID plague by a number
of virologists, including Anthony Fauci, uh Francis Collins of the

(00:43):
NIH and and other people, and their decision to absolutely
choke off, clamp down silence anybody who suggested anything other
than it jumped from one animal to another human beings.
It was totally natural. It didn't come into las the
wet market. That's right. And anybody who dared suggest that

(01:04):
got or even wanted to look into the lab leak
theory or the fact that perhaps the virus was genetically
altered in the name of medical research. There in Uhan.
Anybody who so much has posed that question was labeled
a conspiracy theorist and silenced by big media and big
tech and and and it's absolutely outrageous. But enough editorializing.

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Let's get into some of the reaction to that report,
because it highlights some of the reporting in the reaction,
and any any blanks that need to be filled in,
we will fill in for you. The first voice you're
gonna hear is Dr Robert Redfield, the former director of
the c d C A D two, Michael, the approach
that the leaders of the scientific community took was really

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not scientific. A science loves rigorous debate of different hypotheses
and use that debate to try to get to scientific truth. Instead,
what happened was there's appears to be a consensus and
among the number of individuals that they were going to
portray the point of view that there was really one,
only one credible perspective here, and that's what it was, evolutionary.

(02:14):
He had some more comments to make. Let's roll on
with eighty three. I've said before that I don't think
it's biologically plausible that it came from nature, where you
had a virus that went from bats to some intermediate
animal to humans and then was one of the most
infectious viruses we've seen. I've told people that stars went
from a bat to a civic cat to humans, and

(02:35):
now eighteen nineteen years later, there's been less than ten
thousand cases in the world. Mers in two thousand, twelve
thirteen from a bat to a camel to humans less
than ten thousand cases nine years later. These viruses that
come from nature don't immediately become highly infectious for men.
This virus had to be educated in how to infect

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man with great or efficiency, and so therefore I think, really, uh,
the evidence really points, if you want to have a
rigorous scientific debate, that this virus emerged from the laboratory,
and I'm disappointed that science doesn't embrace science now that
that goes to the basic discussion of the cause. But

(03:19):
what he doesn't address is one of the major parts
of the investigation that Special Report did, and that has
to do with the fact that early on in this
a number of prominent virologists were exchanging emails with each other,
and those emails exist, they've been found, they've been issued.
They've been released in which some of the most prominent
among them were saying, there's no way this is natural.

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It was there's too much, too much coincidence, specifically has
to do with the spike proteins and how they bind
the human cells. That part of their genome is clearly constructed,
because it's almost impossible for it to suddenly occur in
nature in such a perfect form. They were strongly of
that opinion. Then Dr Fauci and others convened a big

(04:03):
conference call and two days later they had, without sighting,
science reversed their field and said no, no, it was natural.
It was the wet market. Don't let anybody tell you differently.
And some of the transcripts have been released and they
show the big concern, and Fauci expressed this was that
if if the lab leak thing were thoroughly examined, it

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might cause quote harm to science and heart and harmon
international harmony, which, if you don't know this, harmony is
a used word used by the communist Chinese all the
time to describe everybody shuts up and does what they're
supposed to do, and we have no uh, you know,
no craziness in our society. We have a harmonious society,

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So what the hell did they mean it might damage science?
So Fox came out with this um uh story, what
about forty eight hours ago, and they've been trying to
get Dr Fauci and others trus onto it and they haven't. Well.
Founci responded today saying he still believes that the most
likely thing, by far is that this virus um emerged

(05:10):
in nature. Now he he hasn't. I mean, it's it's
known and admitted to right that they're doing gain a
function research there in Uhan. That's not a mystery from anybody.
Everybody but Anthony Fauci agrees, yes, that's what was happening,
So he doesn't say that they were doing gain a
function there. That's what he's been arguing with Rand Paul about. Yeah,
he is um he is citing. Interestingly enough, it was

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I can't remember with seen sometimes in that range. There
was a big active debate in the scientific community about
gain of function research and the and the regulations around it,
and Fauci was a leading voice in loosening the regulations
and and changing some of the definitions and that sort
of thing. Um. So he is clinging to an extremely

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arrow that's right. Uh, scientific definition really of his own
crafting of what is gain a function research and what
is in what he was doing the rest of the
world calls gain a function research. Yeah. Yeah, so he's
doing the definition of is is around gain a function
and uh and winning the argument that way. Um. But
so we're supposed to believe the world is supposed to

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believe that where they where they h Man adjust viruses
to make them as bad as possible to study the
worst virus in world history starts and they're not related.
That's what we're all supposed to swallow. So one of
the main points of the original report on special Report

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was that these leading virologists all of a sudden they
changed their minds and signed on the dotted line. And
how ad that was the A couple of the names involved,
or Anderson and Jerry or Gary, I can't remember, but
one work Dr Robert Redfield eight four. Michael, you know,
I think one of the challenges is that they believed
that somehow they were helping science by not having science

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implicated as potentially being the source of the pandemic to
begin with. And you know, this is what I've said before,
rather than try to package something in a way that
you know, prevents people from thinking what you don't want
them to think. I think it's just much better to
tell the truth. And I don't think that was done
here all of the rest of my life. Believing that

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even if they can't prove it, I doubt they ever
are able to prove it, prove that uh uh Faucci
and his crew were fundingness knew what it was, probably
from from from from from the first news reports of
a virus like this starting in that area. They knew
exactly what it was and what was going on. And
he believes in you use the Dr Frankenstein uh analogy earlier,

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which makes perfectly good sense. He just as he's a
mad scientist. I mean, he just he's so focused on
a particular kind of science and thinks it's so important
he can't step away from it and see the human
implications of of what he's advocating represent science, putting putting
aside the fun and enjoyable Frankenstein movies. The original novel,

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one of the themes of it was that science cannot
be trusted to to be the arbiter of science. Scientists
become so obsessed in their work they will no longer
recognize that what they're doing is too dangers or evil
or whatever. We have to have oversight of science. It's
one of the common theme through scientific history, and Faunci

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is a perfect example. I think you can call it
mad scientists, or you can call it somebody so swept
up in how important their work is they don't believe
stupid morons in the government or fools on the radio
or or whomever have any business in telling us what
we can and cannot do. Actually, in the more I
think about anything, mad scientist is a pretty decent to

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description of it. An obsessed scientist. Now, I'm not sure
we don't really have time for the clip. But what
I was driving at before with this, uh those virologists
I mentioned, you know what I think we do? I
hit it seventy five real quick, Michael, We may cut
it off. But more than a month later we now
learn doctor's Christian Anderson and Robert Garry, two of the

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authors of that scientific report, who were in close contact
with Dr Fauci, are awarded a nearly nine million dollar
research grant from Fauci's agency. A month after that, Dr
Peter Dazik of Eco Health Alliance, the group that did
the original US funded experiments with the Chinese at the
Wuhan Institute of Virology, received a seven point five million

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dollar grant over five years from Dr Faucci. President Biden
a year later tasks the U. S Intelligence community to
probe the COVID origins, but it's August report was inconclusive,
due in large part to China's unwillingness to assist with
the investigation. As the lab leak theory gains more scientific
track and around the world, Dr Collins publicly says he's

(10:03):
at least open to that possibility. And you thought it
was not a weaponized thing from the Chinese, but that
it may have been a lab accident. It seems more
and more pointing that way. Are you confident saying that,
I don't think I have any more new information to
be able to tip the balance. Certainly possible that this
was somehow understudy in the lab, even though it was

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not human engineered from scratch. I'm quite confident of that.
But months later, in his last interview before leaving n
i H last month, Collins tells Fox News he stands
by the natural origins theory. Actually, we still don't know.
There is no evidence really to say most of the
scientific community, myself included, I think that is a possibility,

(10:44):
but far more likely this was a natural way in
which a virus left a bat, maybe traveled through some
other species and got the UK. That's fine. Um, a
couple of things. Nobody but crackpots are alleging it was
engineered from scratch. Why are you addressing an argument nobody's made.
That's always a valid question. And secondly, the bulk of

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the majority of the scientific community blah blah blah, who
are getting enormous grants. Yeah, yeah, they've signed on the
dotted line that no, no, it would damage science to
to blame any of us. And the idea that there's
no evidence that there was any messing with the virus
that is just patently untrue. Well, like I said, I'll

(11:27):
go to my dying day believe that Fauci and his
crew knew exactly what happened from the beginning, and we're
willing to keep it quiet out of their misplaced belief
that they're helping the world somehow, I guess. And and
you know, human frailty. You screwed up. You said something
wasn't dangerous or wasn't that dangerous, and it caused the

(11:50):
greatest human made cataclysm of all time. Yeah, a lot
of people will try to cover that up, try to
cover up their own culpability.