Life 3.0

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Um. I'm trying to tie three things together here. So
that's Elon musk Um, who has been warning us all
about AI. Man. There's some great YouTube videos if you've
never watched them, where he's talking about, Hey, this is
what's gonna happen with artificial intelligence. All of these jobs
are gonna disappear and people aren't gonna work, and what

(00:20):
are they gonna do? And are we gonna have AI
producing income and food and everything and people just lay around?
Or what is that gonna look like? Getting to that
story in the USA today about the forty hour work
week becoming the thirty two hour work week, Well, we
might get to the zero hour work week before we
know it. So I started rereading a book I had

(00:41):
mentioned a couple of years ago called Life three point oh,
which is fascinating about artificial intelligence and where it could
take us. Somehow I missed a chunk of it the
first time I read it. I'm glad that I'm rereading it,
and it's pretty frightening stuff. So the first chapter talks
about a party in Napa Valley in which the author

(01:02):
of this book I forget his name, but he's he's
like a computer genius. Dude, and he's a professor, and
he was at this party, and Larry Page, the guy
who invented Google, was there, and Elan's there, and they
get into a conversation about artificial intelligence that ends up
going late into the night with everybody standing around watching
them talk about it, which is pretty fascinating stuff. And

(01:24):
Elon's angle, and I agree with him, is that this
is gonna be trouble for humanity in the world, and
the countries need to lay down rules like now before
artificial intelligence has a chance to get out there and
down the road, before we set any rules. And it's
like nuclear weapons or chemical weapons or anything else that
could go wrong. And the part that I missed was

(01:49):
Larry Page, the founder of Google, and some others are
okay with the idea of life three point oh being
computers reap placing human beings the human beings or are
no longer needed. And this is okay because it's just
a version different version of life, just like you know

(02:11):
Amiba's or whatever coming out of the ocean. We're a
version of life, and then we came along. Human beings
came along, and we were the dominant life form. Life
three point oh artificial intelligence will be the new, better
form of life and it will replace us. And Ellen
was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what are you talking about here?
And he got branded by the Google founder and others

(02:35):
as a species ist, like being a racist or a sexist.
You're a speciesist. My head is officially spinning. If you
believe human beings should have some sort of special place
in the world or the universe, you're a speciesist. No, no, no.
The next stage of life, which won't need human beings
is this life three point oh, that is computers programming

(02:55):
themselves and doing what is good for blah blah blah.
And somehow I missed that the first time I read
the book, and the author seems to be very okay
with that point of view in a way that troubles me.
So I just thought, y'all ought to be aware. There's
a school of thought around artificial intelligence that that is
the next form of life, and that there's nothing magical

(03:16):
or special. And I don't I don't know if you
have to be religious to believe this or not, but
I feel like human beings, in our capacity for love
and all the things that computers will never have, is
something that we should try to hang onto. But well,
if anybody can spin out for me what that future

(03:36):
look like. It looks like that doesn't involve dystopian horrors,
I'd be curious. It doesn't matter. People won't be around anymore,
so it'll be whatever's best for the universe or computers
or something. Yeah, but the transitional period will be mass
starvation and anger and war and horror. I think