December 4, 2025 • 12 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Today on Judge Joe Show, plaintiff Rachel says she and
her fiance Damien put down a five thousand dollars non
refundable deposit on a wedding venue until she discovered he'd
been married there multiple times before. She still wants to
marry him, but it must be at another venue. Damien,
(00:22):
who says the deposit was clearly non refundable, wants to
get married at the place they already put a non
refundable deposit down on All Rise for Judge Joe Show
on ninety three three FLZ.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Hey, Rachel, you still want to get married, obviously, right?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I still want to get married. I mean, Damien is
the love of my life, but this is not this
is not how I want to do this.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Damien, you still want to get married, right?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Absolutely? You know I love Rachel. I just I don't
think this is you know, fair to kind of demand
to change a venue and we have a per six
spot picked out. I don't think my past at this
place should have any any you know, relevance. I think
it's a gorgeous place and she should be happy that there.
(01:12):
So I did get married twice at this venue, but
I mean it's the beach. It's not like, you know,
some tacky little little ballroom or anything like that. I mean,
it's it's got a gorgeous beach backdropping it. I mean,
it's everything you would want. I mean, and it's it's
it's a great deal as well. But twice.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Okay, so Rachel, and don't take this the wrong way.
I'm just genuinely curious. How did you not know that
he's been married twice there? Like, how did you not know?
Did you ever look into the locations or anything like that?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It just wasn't it wasn't even a thot. It just
it came out of his mouth when we were tasting
the cake, and he just blurted out that he was
married there two times before. I mean, that's that's so disrespectful.
I don't I don't even know what to say. I mean,
this is just it's really disrespectful. And then you want
(02:09):
to start off a new marriage on this same place
that you I don't know, this is.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
All right, to be clear. And then eight hundred four
and nine ninety three ninety three, that is eight hundred
and four h nine ninety three ninety three. I want
to hear from you the jury, and you know, at
the end of the day, while it's Judge Joe Show,
I'm just going to go based off of what you say,
So your opinion really does matter in this. Rachel, once again,
(02:36):
you still want to get married, Damien, you still want
to get married. We're not debating whether you guys break
up and don't have like a loving, fantastic life together.
It's purely just the location. Rachel, You're willing to lose
out on five thousand dollars just because you don't want
(02:59):
to be married in this place that these other two
women tied the knot with your now fiance.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, it's the it's the principal, it's the principle of that.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Five thousand bucks. You don't want to lose out on
five grand.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Heck, bro of course not.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
I mean, who would. It's it's, yeah, I want to
get married. You're fine.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
So you're fine with using me, So you're fine with
losing me, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
To keep you and I want to keep the five
thousand dollars deposit and not lose that. I mean, I
feel like.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
You don't see how you don't see how this is
disrespect disrespecting me. Like you just married two other women
before that it didn't work out. That's that juju? Like,
why are you doing in the same exact place? What
is like, I don't understand that, Damien.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Right, real quick, real quick, and we'll continue with this. Obviously,
you guys can stay on this whole entire time. But
let's get to some jurors and see maybe if we
can start picking sides. Michael, what do you think?
Speaker 7 (03:53):
Yeah, Joe, like, I'm on I'm on her side. I
definitely think it's bad juju, you know, but if it's
a situation where there's a deal going on, like buy
two weddings, get one wedding freeze, and at that point
you gotta go away from the bad jude too and
be a good dude too.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Could be it could be is it a boat go?
Speaker 6 (04:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I don't know. Do they have by two get one free?
Is that the terminology for me? I don't know. So
it's not that I mean, obviously it's not that you
had to put five grand down, So Michael, you'd be
willing to lose the five g's for this?
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
All right, there you go. Here's Michael stalk to Megan
right now, Megan says, this is insane. Well, welcome to
the Joe Show, right, hello, talk to us.
Speaker 8 (04:39):
So, yeah, I definitely side with the girl raising Yeah
five grand.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
I would lose that in a heartbeat.
Speaker 9 (04:48):
My fiance would be an insane amount of trouble if
he even suggested this place.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Like, that's just so wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, I'd be stabbed. Think that's what happened to me.
Is oh yeah, stabbing as soon as you even set
it off your lipsy ash. Yeah, Alyssa would go, really,
we're still getting married?
Speaker 10 (05:12):
This out? It?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Can you answer that?
Speaker 9 (05:15):
Why?
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Why even was this place on the list, like it
should not even have been on the radar?
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah, Damien, because it's gorgeous.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
I mean, listen, we've all been attacking weddings before. When
you know something works, you stick with it.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Okay, Okay, we're years ago and we're talking about the beach. Okay,
it's it's a beautiful spot.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Everything was all inclusive, and I just can't believe we're
talking about vibes and Judi.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
It didn't work out.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Though it did not work out?
Speaker 5 (05:49):
What are we a bunch of teenagers?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Like, come on, are we are we looking at astrologically, No,
are you a are.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
You a teenager that you can't lose out on something
for the love of your life.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
This isn't twenty dollars we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
This is five thousand dollars.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
That's the second and more important to you.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
So that's more important.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
List as you can tell right now. As you can
tell right now, we have two very loving, you know,
fiancees on the phone right now, and at the end
of the day they are going to get married. There's
no doubt about that. The question is is what happens
they put a five thousand dollars deposit on this location.
Rachel finds out that Damien's been married there twice already. Jana, Hi,
(06:32):
what do you think?
Speaker 6 (06:34):
Oh well, I just want to know, like what made
Damien pick this location again? Like why would you pick.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
The I'll fill it in because I've heard it a
couple of times. He says it's beautiful. He says it's
at the end of the day, it's a beautiful place.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
Okay, So for I mean, I guess he could be
going with third time the charm, But I understand, I
understand that I agree with her that it's really disrespectful,
Like you, you got to give her her own space
and her own place to celebrate, especially, you know, not
disclosing to her in the first place that he had
already been married there twice before and it was the
(07:10):
same exact location. And I understand not wanting to lose
out on five thousand dollars, but you know what, if
you really love that person, for the happiness of that person,
knowing that this makes them upset, you got to give
it up.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Thank you, Jana, I appreciate you. Andy. You say you're
on both sides. Now here's the deal. Here's the deal.
I'm gonna you can give your opinion in all of that,
but I'm gonna tell you at the end because the
way Judge Joe show works, we can't have you know, middleman,
Andy's you need it. You need to pick a side.
So talk about how your family owns a wedding venue.
(07:47):
But immediately after that you gotta pick a side.
Speaker 10 (07:52):
Well, I mean, both sides have feelings, and I get it.
So I was just kind of gonna that's neutral.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
To be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I'm gonna have to and I'm gonna from the court
Remandy get him out of here. Judge, Now, hold on,
I'm gonna let I'm gonna let your r Andy before
we hold him in contempt of court. I'm gonna give
him one more chance. But if you don't, Ashley's got
fuzzy handcuffs and you'll take you to the bat.
Speaker 10 (08:18):
Yeah, all right, let's just go with I'm on his side.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Why on his side? Tell us why?
Speaker 10 (08:32):
I understand the bad juju and all that stuff. I
get it, and I understand her her angle, But I
wouldn't want to lose five thousand dollars. I mean, he
loves her, clearly, he's not thinking of the other ladies.
He was open and honest with her. So and I
understand five thousand dollars. There is a lot of money.
So if he has the option of saving that five
(08:54):
thousand dollars, he can come to a different wedding venue
that's beautiful, and you will be happy and then they
will live.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Happily ever after. Look at that. Okay, I'll put you
in hold. We can get your information and maybe they
choose to do that. Thank you Andy so much for
doing that. Although now that Rachel knows that Andy was
on Damien's side, who knows if Rachel even wants to
pick that place. Now, this is what's crazy. You know,
at first everyone's on Rachel's side. Well things are changing
(09:25):
now Nikki, you're on Damien's side as well.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Yeah, I gotta.
Speaker 11 (09:32):
Say I I've been married almost ten years and some
things just don't really matter in the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 8 (09:43):
I mean, we got married at the courthouse. Now was
in my pajamas holding our one year old as white
trash as that sounds, and I don't really think it
matters where you get married.
Speaker 12 (09:54):
She obviously saw it, thought it was beautiful. She stuck
his foot in his mouth, somebody said. But at least
she didn't find out from someone else. And all she
can do is be like, don't tell.
Speaker 8 (10:05):
Anybody because this is so embarrassing. But we paid our deposit,
so let's just go through it with it, you know,
at the end of the day, Like, who cares about
the other women? They're obviously not in the picture anymore.
I just don't think it's that big of a deal.
Like in the grand scheme of things, if you're truly
in love with someone, it shouldn't really matter, like where
(10:26):
you get married. I mean, it is kind of weird
that he's been married there before, but it doesn't really matter, thank.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You, Nikki. Last one Monica, Monica, you say call off
the wedding.
Speaker 9 (10:38):
Yeah, so I actually worked with a lot of different brides.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
I own a bridal store, and.
Speaker 9 (10:47):
As somebody who's actually been engaged twice and married once,
I would say, listen, the whole thing is supposed to
be symbolic, and if it were me, I'd either lose
a five thousand or I would just cancel the wedding.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Thank you, Monica. At the end of the day, I
do need to come up with a decision. I have
come up with a decision. Monica is great and all
of that I don't want. I love love. I'm getting
married too. I'm very very excited about that, and I'm
sure that you guys are excited as well. And I
know that through these times like my fiance and I've had,
you know, there's some issues that have arised just because
(11:20):
I think we're both stressed. So I hope that you
guys can get through all of this stress. It's a
lot of money. It's five grand, Rachel and Damien. You
can't get married where you're getting married, so at least
you're hearing from all of us. I do genuinely believe
the decision is you gotta change it up, you gotta
(11:41):
go somewhere else. That is my opinion. Would you agree Ash,
It seems like you agree before us. That's rare times
where all of us are on the same side. So
Rachel and Damien keep us updated as always, and you
know we might have some things financially that could help
you guys out movie and forward
Today on Judge Joe Show, plaintiff Rachel says she and
her fiance Damien put down a five thousand dollars non
refundable deposit on a wedding venue until she discovered he'd
been married there multiple times before. She still wants to
marry him, but it must be at another venue. Damien,
(00:22):
who says the deposit was clearly non refundable, wants to
get married at the place they already put a non
refundable deposit down on All Rise for Judge Joe Show
on ninety three three FLZ.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Hey, Rachel, you still want to get married, obviously, right?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I still want to get married. I mean, Damien is
the love of my life, but this is not this
is not how I want to do this.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Damien, you still want to get married, right?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Absolutely? You know I love Rachel. I just I don't
think this is you know, fair to kind of demand
to change a venue and we have a per six
spot picked out. I don't think my past at this
place should have any any you know, relevance. I think
it's a gorgeous place and she should be happy that there.
(01:12):
So I did get married twice at this venue, but
I mean it's the beach. It's not like, you know,
some tacky little little ballroom or anything like that. I mean,
it's it's got a gorgeous beach backdropping it. I mean,
it's everything you would want. I mean, and it's it's
it's a great deal as well. But twice.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Okay, so Rachel, and don't take this the wrong way.
I'm just genuinely curious. How did you not know that
he's been married twice there? Like, how did you not know?
Did you ever look into the locations or anything like that?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It just wasn't it wasn't even a thot. It just
it came out of his mouth when we were tasting
the cake, and he just blurted out that he was
married there two times before. I mean, that's that's so disrespectful.
I don't I don't even know what to say. I mean,
this is just it's really disrespectful. And then you want
(02:09):
to start off a new marriage on this same place
that you I don't know, this is.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
All right, to be clear. And then eight hundred four
and nine ninety three ninety three, that is eight hundred
and four h nine ninety three ninety three. I want
to hear from you the jury, and you know, at
the end of the day, while it's Judge Joe Show,
I'm just going to go based off of what you say,
So your opinion really does matter in this. Rachel, once again,
(02:36):
you still want to get married, Damien, you still want
to get married. We're not debating whether you guys break
up and don't have like a loving, fantastic life together.
It's purely just the location. Rachel, You're willing to lose
out on five thousand dollars just because you don't want
(02:59):
to be married in this place that these other two
women tied the knot with your now fiance.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, it's the it's the principal, it's the principle of that.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Five thousand bucks. You don't want to lose out on
five grand.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Heck, bro of course not.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
I mean, who would. It's it's, yeah, I want to
get married. You're fine.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
So you're fine with using me, So you're fine with
losing me, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
To keep you and I want to keep the five
thousand dollars deposit and not lose that. I mean, I
feel like.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
You don't see how you don't see how this is
disrespect disrespecting me. Like you just married two other women
before that it didn't work out. That's that juju? Like,
why are you doing in the same exact place? What
is like, I don't understand that, Damien.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Right, real quick, real quick, and we'll continue with this. Obviously,
you guys can stay on this whole entire time. But
let's get to some jurors and see maybe if we
can start picking sides. Michael, what do you think?
Speaker 7 (03:53):
Yeah, Joe, like, I'm on I'm on her side. I
definitely think it's bad juju, you know, but if it's
a situation where there's a deal going on, like buy
two weddings, get one wedding freeze, and at that point
you gotta go away from the bad jude too and
be a good dude too.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Could be it could be is it a boat go?
Speaker 6 (04:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I don't know. Do they have by two get one free?
Is that the terminology for me? I don't know. So
it's not that I mean, obviously it's not that you
had to put five grand down, So Michael, you'd be
willing to lose the five g's for this?
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
All right, there you go. Here's Michael stalk to Megan
right now, Megan says, this is insane. Well, welcome to
the Joe Show, right, hello, talk to us.
Speaker 8 (04:39):
So, yeah, I definitely side with the girl raising Yeah
five grand.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
I would lose that in a heartbeat.
Speaker 9 (04:48):
My fiance would be an insane amount of trouble if
he even suggested this place.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Like, that's just so wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, I'd be stabbed. Think that's what happened to me.
Is oh yeah, stabbing as soon as you even set
it off your lipsy ash. Yeah, Alyssa would go, really,
we're still getting married?
Speaker 10 (05:12):
This out? It?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Can you answer that?
Speaker 9 (05:15):
Why?
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Why even was this place on the list, like it
should not even have been on the radar?
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah, Damien, because it's gorgeous.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
I mean, listen, we've all been attacking weddings before. When
you know something works, you stick with it.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Okay, Okay, we're years ago and we're talking about the beach. Okay,
it's it's a beautiful spot.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Everything was all inclusive, and I just can't believe we're
talking about vibes and Judi.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
It didn't work out.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Though it did not work out?
Speaker 5 (05:49):
What are we a bunch of teenagers?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Like, come on, are we are we looking at astrologically, No,
are you a are.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
You a teenager that you can't lose out on something
for the love of your life.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
This isn't twenty dollars we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
This is five thousand dollars.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
That's the second and more important to you.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
So that's more important.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
List as you can tell right now. As you can
tell right now, we have two very loving, you know,
fiancees on the phone right now, and at the end
of the day they are going to get married. There's
no doubt about that. The question is is what happens
they put a five thousand dollars deposit on this location.
Rachel finds out that Damien's been married there twice already. Jana, Hi,
(06:32):
what do you think?
Speaker 6 (06:34):
Oh well, I just want to know, like what made
Damien pick this location again? Like why would you pick.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
The I'll fill it in because I've heard it a
couple of times. He says it's beautiful. He says it's
at the end of the day, it's a beautiful place.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
Okay, So for I mean, I guess he could be
going with third time the charm, But I understand, I
understand that I agree with her that it's really disrespectful,
Like you, you got to give her her own space
and her own place to celebrate, especially, you know, not
disclosing to her in the first place that he had
already been married there twice before and it was the
(07:10):
same exact location. And I understand not wanting to lose
out on five thousand dollars, but you know what, if
you really love that person, for the happiness of that person,
knowing that this makes them upset, you got to give
it up.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Thank you, Jana, I appreciate you. Andy. You say you're
on both sides. Now here's the deal. Here's the deal.
I'm gonna you can give your opinion in all of that,
but I'm gonna tell you at the end because the
way Judge Joe show works, we can't have you know, middleman,
Andy's you need it. You need to pick a side.
So talk about how your family owns a wedding venue.
(07:47):
But immediately after that you gotta pick a side.
Speaker 10 (07:52):
Well, I mean, both sides have feelings, and I get it.
So I was just kind of gonna that's neutral.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
To be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I'm gonna have to and I'm gonna from the court
Remandy get him out of here. Judge, Now, hold on,
I'm gonna let I'm gonna let your r Andy before
we hold him in contempt of court. I'm gonna give
him one more chance. But if you don't, Ashley's got
fuzzy handcuffs and you'll take you to the bat.
Speaker 10 (08:18):
Yeah, all right, let's just go with I'm on his side.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Why on his side? Tell us why?
Speaker 10 (08:32):
I understand the bad juju and all that stuff. I
get it, and I understand her her angle, But I
wouldn't want to lose five thousand dollars. I mean, he
loves her, clearly, he's not thinking of the other ladies.
He was open and honest with her. So and I
understand five thousand dollars. There is a lot of money.
So if he has the option of saving that five
(08:54):
thousand dollars, he can come to a different wedding venue
that's beautiful, and you will be happy and then they
will live.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Happily ever after. Look at that. Okay, I'll put you
in hold. We can get your information and maybe they
choose to do that. Thank you Andy so much for
doing that. Although now that Rachel knows that Andy was
on Damien's side, who knows if Rachel even wants to
pick that place. Now, this is what's crazy. You know,
at first everyone's on Rachel's side. Well things are changing
(09:25):
now Nikki, you're on Damien's side as well.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Yeah, I gotta.
Speaker 11 (09:32):
Say I I've been married almost ten years and some
things just don't really matter in the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 8 (09:43):
I mean, we got married at the courthouse. Now was
in my pajamas holding our one year old as white
trash as that sounds, and I don't really think it
matters where you get married.
Speaker 12 (09:54):
She obviously saw it, thought it was beautiful. She stuck
his foot in his mouth, somebody said. But at least
she didn't find out from someone else. And all she
can do is be like, don't tell.
Speaker 8 (10:05):
Anybody because this is so embarrassing. But we paid our deposit,
so let's just go through it with it, you know,
at the end of the day, Like, who cares about
the other women? They're obviously not in the picture anymore.
I just don't think it's that big of a deal.
Like in the grand scheme of things, if you're truly
in love with someone, it shouldn't really matter, like where
(10:26):
you get married. I mean, it is kind of weird
that he's been married there before, but it doesn't really matter, thank.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
You, Nikki. Last one Monica, Monica, you say call off
the wedding.
Speaker 9 (10:38):
Yeah, so I actually worked with a lot of different brides.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
I own a bridal store, and.
Speaker 9 (10:47):
As somebody who's actually been engaged twice and married once,
I would say, listen, the whole thing is supposed to
be symbolic, and if it were me, I'd either lose
a five thousand or I would just cancel the wedding.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Thank you, Monica. At the end of the day, I
do need to come up with a decision. I have
come up with a decision. Monica is great and all
of that I don't want. I love love. I'm getting
married too. I'm very very excited about that, and I'm
sure that you guys are excited as well. And I
know that through these times like my fiance and I've had,
you know, there's some issues that have arised just because
(11:20):
I think we're both stressed. So I hope that you
guys can get through all of this stress. It's a
lot of money. It's five grand, Rachel and Damien. You
can't get married where you're getting married, so at least
you're hearing from all of us. I do genuinely believe
the decision is you gotta change it up, you gotta
(11:41):
go somewhere else. That is my opinion. Would you agree Ash,
It seems like you agree before us. That's rare times
where all of us are on the same side. So
Rachel and Damien keep us updated as always, and you
know we might have some things financially that could help
you guys out movie and forward
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In 1997, actress Kristin Davis’ life was forever changed when she took on the role of Charlotte York in Sex and the City. As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte navigate relationships in NYC, the show helped push once unacceptable conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships. Now, Kristin Davis wants to connect with you, the fans, and share untold stories and all the behind the scenes. Together, with Kristin and special guests, what will begin with Sex and the City will evolve into talks about themes that are still so relevant today. "Are you a Charlotte?" is much more than just rewatching this beloved show, it brings the past and the present together as we talk with heart, humor and of course some optimism.
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