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May 2, 2024 55 mins
Tone Kapone, KeKe, and Zach Boog talk Kendrick’s Response, Jeezy vs. Jeannie Mai, Interracial Dating & More
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All right, welcome to it.What bore can I say? Podcast Episode
one fifty six, Rider, what'sup? That's the second one fifty six?
Man? Come on, man,that's the second one fifty six.
It was one fifty six last week. Tell them Rider, tell them fifty

(00:27):
six and a half. It's sevenhalf. I want your hotel capon Man.
Let's going to introduce you to theother members of the pod. She's
the first lady of the pod.She is the only lady of the pod.
She is fluffy and fine, andI hate that she's not lactos and
tolerant like me. It is kikyo. Whoa whoa, whoa whoa. No,

(00:51):
I don't ever want to become lacktoasin tolerant, because I'm going to
risk it every single time. Yeah, I would just be a shitty mess
or whatever we hate going on.I'm not giving up cheese for nobody,
tough. So I'm sorry. Ithink about you, and when I eat
my Philly cheese steaks and stuff,I do think about it. So is
that Philly cheese steak? Is itworth me risking at all? Yes?

(01:11):
It's really worth you risking at all? Yes. Not the way you be
acting in here. No, it'snot worth it. I would you when
I'm coming here. That would sityou down though for like a whole weekend.
You gotta work, so like youcannot be in the club and where
it's to Yeah, in the bathroomthat is not that's not sexy. So
you can't do that. Well,I could tell you all a story about

(01:32):
that one. What happened. Ohman, I just was like, I'm
kicking it and I had had somecheese. I had some cheese and I
was kicking it, hanging out andI had the dark. I was at
the club. I had to gohome. I had I had to break
glass in place, Mary leave.Okay, it's just not just because you

(01:53):
can't go boo boo in the club, And that's what I was wondering.
You can't. I'm gonna pay itif I ever. Okay, I I
had booboo to the club. Butdid you come back and party? Yes?
I did? You a wall y'all. Don't you know where y'all go
to the bathroom? You can seepeople's shoes. No, no, you

(02:14):
gotta no, no no wait,no you cain't not. But I did
it. You got to be aplayer about it. Please, explain it's
a bathroom intended in there. Itsurely are you paid him. I paid
him to say, don't nobody comein here, nobody comes in here.
Here, here's fifty bucks. Nobodycomes in here until I finished, and
he said he never did it inthe club. You definitely did it.

(02:38):
Bathroom intendants have saved a lot ofpregnancy every time you had the boo boo.
It wasn't a bathroom intended in there. Yeah, no, only did
it one time? Only one time, only one time. But I have
bought many a condom from from abathroom. Okay, for the end of
the club activities, right, No, not in the club, but you're
going home, I'm gonna care.Wow, you gotta be wild. I

(03:01):
like to get naked. I'm notYeah, you can't be your knees,
I won't be, but naked.Wow, But naked in the club.

(03:23):
It's crazy. If I seen somebodybutton naked in the club, you all
crack. Yeah, that's how wefeel. Like, that's literally how I
feel when I see bare feet women. It's the it's the wildest feeling.
It's like, yo, it's likeit's like watching somebody eat a rat.
It's like, what are you doing? And you chose to wear those shoes.

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That's the weirdest thing is like youput them shoes on, you knew
you couldn't walk in them, youknew where you was going, and now
you're walking down the street barefoot,tough it out. It's so easy for
y'all to say that, but untilyou have walked in the past to let
on, you don't know the pain. But I'm not gonna wear them then,
I know. But everybody again,I got some threes that mess up
my tear my toe up every timeI wear them, and I tell y'all,

(04:09):
don't wear them no more. ButI'm not wearing these shoes. These
shoes hurt. I don't know.He's got hurt shoes. He's got small
shoes. He's got why they gotto be small? You bought them small?
If they hurt your feet, theywear small, they wear size down?
Yeah, why would you buy it? Okay, full size down too,

(04:29):
why would you do it? Okay? This is when I was younger.
I was thirsty, and these shoesit was like it was like the
Black threes or something, and theydidn't have my size, and I was
like, I want them. Ye, I wear a nine. I said,
give me the eight, exactly.I stuck my foot. But I
stuffed my foot in the eight anddied in the I'm never wearing these shoes

(04:50):
again. If this is how womenfeel, I understand why y'all take them
off. I'm not gonna keep puttingthem on. That's what makes it delusional
to me. Yeah, yeah,no, no, that's that's crazy anyway.
With the man that's got the stuffthat is putting the whole eight.
Some of your pooting that size eightis crazy when you were now e's xact
wood. Whoa whoa, whoa,whoa, whoa whoa. No, the

(05:13):
don't love feet, got some cornson him. Who woa track They got
a little bit of corns. ButI got a good pedicure lady, and
she take care of my feet nice. Now. I know you pedicure,
take baths, manicures. I gottake baths. You do. Take what
you say. I gotta get apedicure. I thought you said you never
get a pedicure. I got.I want to. I look at him
now like I'm like, well,change your mind. Yeah you were,

(05:34):
Maddy, and somebody that's gonna theysocks in the pool. I definitely want
my sock's doing sex though, nevertake a bak. I got bad take
off everything but the socks. No. I think it's weird to take off
your socks during sex. That's strangebecause as a man, you take your
shirt off, you take your youcan take your bottoms off, right,

(05:54):
But to do this that's wolduse andput up. That's crazy crazy. You
got a big toe off, truefreak. You a true freak. If
you're taking your socks off, youcannot socks hold on as soon as them

(06:19):
socks go up, you wild.So you sleep with socks so yeah,
oh my god, you sleep withsocks on too. Sometimes serial killers you
can't go to sleep with socks on. I love. I'm gonna tell you
the best socks I've just found themout. I'm gonna tell everybody now.
I ain't give you no money forthis, but what them Kirkling brand socks

(06:42):
out of Costco. Out of themost comfortable socks in the world. I
don't know somebody took so when Ibought, I'm telling me so, I
was like, yo, I neededsome socks. I'm like, I'm in
there, I'm buying because they gotgood T shirts to Cosco. They got
good T shirts. Man, soI get the T shirt, Like,
the socks ain't bad. Let me, let me give me a pair of
socks. I put the socks upto buy him. The lady tells me,

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you're gonna love those socks. Iwas like, that's a weird thing
to say, you're gonna look,man, I got them on now that
socks Kirkland brand is good. It'san off brand that they selling. Costco.
Everything is. We were just talkingabout that with another group, the
draws too. Yeah, good draws, good T shirts. Good liquor.

(07:26):
They said vodka, they got tequila. It's great. Okay, I got
a question since we brought up liquor. We found out that Key drinks gin.
Wait a minute, who I wantto know? What drinking? Crazy?
What is wrong with you? Foundout the reports came in that you

(07:46):
be on the gin. And I'mtrying to figure out why you are on
such a harsh liquor at your age. What droughts and tribulations. Oh my
god, that's crazy that you wouldbring that up because I specifically told them
not to worry about that and don'ttalk about that. And I'm trunk sad
to be in shamed for like ingin, what is wrong with that?

(08:09):
I'm just crazy, Like, hey, we got this conak, kid,
we got some champagne. They belike, y'all ain't got no g You
want some bumpy face, lady,you want you know, you know you
graduated in college, you got agood job. That's crazy that I'm being

(08:30):
judged. Like, kid, that'scrazy. At the table, you at
the table. We got here tosee we got champagne, and you want
to know for the bumpy face?What's wrong with y'all? What's wrong with
that? That's crazy? Oh mygod, you got your mind. But

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now, in all honesty, itwas like the first when we were sneaking
ligga back in high school, Likeit was all we could get, so
we would just drink that. Andthen I think, I true it was
my mama drink. I truly thinkmy mama used to drink it when she
was pregnant with me because it's theonly liquor that don't give me any type
of hangover. I could drink ginall night and be smooth. That is

(09:16):
so odd. I think that blahBama was having a cocktail or two when
she was pregnant me. Yeah,she used to drink gin and timey.
Wow, that's crazy. No,I drink gin and cranberry when I'm I'm
gonna get you. It's so sadbecause I was at an event on Friday
night and it was opened by andI was like, oh, I'll go

(09:37):
get the drinks because I didn't wantnobody know what I was drinking. And
so I was with Fred and Fredwas like, no, I'm a gentleman,
I'm gonna go get your drink.And I was like, he's like,
what you want. I was liketequila when he probably that, I
mean when he went, he wentand did something else I would have there.
I'm like, let me get ag He came back like, that's

(09:58):
tequila. I'm like, because Idon't want to be judged like I'm being
judged here. Crazy. Yeah.If you said to me, I'll be
like, okay, okay, that'sall right, that's drinn. Come on,
let's go talk. I don't discriminateon any liquor. He got mad
at me over there over there coupleof days ago. Oh god, she

(10:20):
got mad because all right pop famuh those clips that come out of all
things to ride a Kikys collaboration andI was pushing them a little too hard.
So I wanted to apologize old camerato Keiki and say, hey,
I'm sorry. I know I couldgive you a little bit much. I
love you though. It's all it'sit's really good. It keep us all

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in motion because me, I'm aI'm very much. I got a lot
going on, and I'd be like, we everything is great always in my
world, everything's great. Fast tellingbe like where is the clips? The
people want to see the clips?We need a clip. So he's right,
he's right, and we're gonna doour best to get it out.
But we we only working with alittle so understaff right now. Yes,

(11:05):
we've been understaffed this whole time.Okay, y'all understaffed. And but here's
the thing and the thing about thispot everything that we do and talk about
is all for the betterment of thepod. What I'm saying, we only
all want the best. Yes,so you know, yeah, so when
when when they when we wrap this, they go on about their lives.

(11:26):
Okay. Meanwhile, me and Rideris in the lab with Kendrick and Tupac,
the AI Tupac putting this together.So it's a lot that they don't
know that going behind the scenes,but you know they live a blissful life.
So yeah, blissful life right hereenjoying it. So yeah, he

(11:46):
Kendrick. Kendrick, the response hasis euphoria. It's out. What do
you feel like? Kiki will askyou your perspective. Okay, I would
just like to apologize to everybody onthe West Coast on behalf of tone upon
comments the last part okay, beforehe started backpedaling and getting no Kendrick side,

(12:09):
I just want to go ahead andremind y'all of what he said last
episode. Okay, I wish whenyou say that I wish the cloth to
I was like, you are,yes, So I would like to apologize
on behalf of tone to to Kendrickand Casey Veggies. Okay, so I

(12:33):
still don't know what you look like, but I would like to apologize to
you too. Okay, I guesshe brought your name up. But let
me tell you this is good.This is a good day. It's like
watching a fight where two people canfight. You know, you watch when
you're like, damn, he couldfight, and you know, ain't nobody
losing in this thing. It's justentertaining. But to take six minutes.

(12:56):
I mean he he he roasted Drakelike in a mono tone. Then he
gave us a little drill, thenhe gave us a little R and B.
Then he came back and hit youwith like a damn Detroit Like It's
just a lot in this six minutesof the song. But I'm still team
Drake. Why because I don't appreciatethe gang up. So even though Kendrick's

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response is great, I still can'trespect Metro Future, the weekend, ross,
all of Yay, everybody coming atDrake at one time. That's where
Drake is going to continue to winbecause he's the guy to hate. So
it's a great response, but it'sstill still team Ookiki. I get it,

(13:41):
I get it, but this isthis is the time of the response.
I heard the response. Kendrick's responseis crazy. It was definitely for
tone. He heard you say thathe couldn't rap and he was better than
him. You named a slew ofpeople that you said are better than him.
You can talk when it's your turn. You can talk when it's your

(14:05):
turn, But I'm gonna say this, this is the main battle. Guys,
everybody that kick he just named FutureMetro and you know I love your
future. You know I'm not justsaying against you. But this is what
we wanted to see. This isthe heavyweight matchup. Okay, these are
the two best. Let's let thembrawl out. Okay. Kendrick gave us

(14:28):
six minutes all for Drake. Yes, Drake was getting jumped so hard.
He had to give everybody a littlebit. He was punching at everybody on
his on his disk. So nowyou you have to reset Drake and just
we just want to hear straight Kendrickthis and y'all just go at it.
That's what we want to see.We want to see Kendrick and Drake.
Jake Cole, We did want tosee j Cole, but he's sorry and

(14:50):
he apologized, and his spirit andhis soul would not let him do none
of this because he knew the smokeone really for him. He knew he
knew that. Did y'all not madat me? Y'all mad at Drake because
he's the one to be mad atbecause he's cool. But he apologized,
Yeah, he apologized because knew thatwas corny for him to get on there
and try to Diskendrick after just callinghim a part of the Big Three.

(15:13):
I'm not ever gonna let y'all talkstuff about JA Cole. That's I'm just
telling you. He sorry. Heis sorry, He's very and he apologized,
and his soul won't let him rapno more. No, I'm not
rapping no more. Shut up,do Jacob. Look, my thing is
is I compare this to basketball.J Cole will start with JA Coles.

(15:35):
Is the last thing you said.J Cole is a hooper. Here an
athlete. He played basketball, playsit all the time, has his own
gym. J Cole did some otherthat I thought it was weird for an
athlete. Somebody said you gave thempraise. Hey, fan, you can
hoop, and then you can hoop. I'll rock with the way you hoop.

(15:56):
Man with us three of the bestbasket we could play. And then
you say, nah, nah na, No, I'm better than both of
y'all. I'm better than both ofy'all. You know, don't worry about
me. I'm better than all y'all. And then J Cole apologizes after scoring
forty on him in the game.Hey man, I gave you forty my
bag. No, that's not whatyou do. Then when we went back

(16:18):
to your point and again to sportsjust because I said I like certain rap
better. It's because I do likedown South gangster music. I do.
I like. I like Chicago gangstermusic. It's my favorite. Okay.
I'm not saying Kendrick can't rap.It's the same thing that I would say,
Darius Garland your friend, he tryingto get me? Yeah, DG

(16:42):
Cleveland Cavalier point guard, your man'sIs Kyrie Irving better than him? No,
I would never say that. Okay, I'm gonna tell you most people
will say Kyrie Irvan's better than that. That's fine, okay, But does
that mean that Darius Garland is nota good basketball player? No, exactly.
That's what I'm saying about Kendrick Lamar. Do I think that? Do

(17:03):
I think that jezis thug motivation thatfirst album is better than then than Kendrick
Lamar's joint? Yes, I do. I like it better. I'm not
I'm not back Retherland. I'm notbad Badland. I'm not saying Kendrick.
I never said Kendrick couldn't rap.I said, and I told you,
we said. I said, weall really comparing if because I always put

(17:26):
stuff to sports it's Lebron Kobe Mike. I mean, come on, dog,
you can pick who you want topick, but they all cold.
So I mean, yeah, LebronKobe Mike. That's what we're talking about
when we talk about Drake. Whenwe started with Drake j Cole Kendrick.
I'll take that argument from you,but that's not what you said. Tom.
We can rewind the tape. Butyou brought up t I, you

(17:48):
brought up Gucci, you brought upg Z. You brought up so many
players that you said that. Yousaid that out better put out better records
than killing and they's so bad.You went so far that I, a
person who don't even listen to Kendrickmusic like that, was like, what
are you saying, Bro, you'retripping. You brought up dudes who come

(18:10):
off the bench. I'm saying theynot hoopless. They might be like six
men balling everybody in the NBA CAand hoop right, but dang, I
would far Nobody's nobody's comparing Jamal Crawfordto Jordan's as good as Jamal Crawford is
as a player. They're not comparinglou Will to Kobe. That you just
don't but we know they all canhoop. They both came into high school.
Like to myself, I feel itmyself, and I will say,

(18:37):
kendykt Rap, I like that.I like you for you. I think
it was maybe a little bit toolong. I like the middle park,
I like the middle party. Slowpart wasn't really my thing cool, but
I thought they got to it.I think nobody else is coming. I
think it's over with. I thinkthis is it. It's I punched you
in the face, you punched mein the face back. I will keep
sublimately dissing each other on on goodout. That's it. Kendrick getting able

(19:02):
to drop. I'm sure Drake's gonnabe ready to drop drop. And this
will push both of them to giveus a better product anyway, because I'm
for all the dogs. What's cool, right, what's cool? And this
will make This will make Drake becausehe knows he has everybody watching him,
He's gonna make a classic, hopefully, And Kendrick knows everybody's watching him.

(19:25):
He'll make a classic, hope.I think Drake gunn respond, you think
so, I know he's gonna respond. He's definitely responding. He's it's a
win for him if he responds,you know what I'm saying, Like he's
gonna come with a hit record respondingto him, and then it's just about
whether or not Kendrick has the energyto keep this going, you know what
I'm saying. Because but I feellike Drake can do this all day,

(19:48):
and he's It's really a perfect timefor him to do it all day because
everybody in the industry is exposing theirtrue feelings about him. So if I
was him, I'm gonna keep doingit because I got all of y'all shug,
I got all of y'all upset,all the y'all mad at me,
and Lil me Aubrey shot a gunnerand something about Gunna Wanna he did.
He kind of said, Gunna wantis gonna be a saint. He said,

(20:11):
I know some stuff about you thatmake Gunna Wanna look like a saint,
which in my mind was interpreting thatI know something about Drake that'll make
you look worse than how Gunnar him. So that is a stray because he's
like, Gunna is the picture ofa snitch. Allegedly to everybody, he's
the picture of a snitch. He'slike, I know stuff that Drake had
done that will make Gunna look likea saint. So he went crazy there.

(20:33):
He went crazy on a sexy line, a sexy red line. When
he said, you sat it nextto her, you like a bad bee.
He said, you might start poppingass like sexy real. I said,
oh my god, sexy red,you see too bad? I think
that you see too bad? Yes, I said it said you might start
popping ass to compete would have?I was like oh. Then he talked

(20:55):
about his son, how Drake couldnever know what it's like to raise a
son, teach a son, howto pray, teach your son how to
be a man. He called outpush your t He talked about how Drake
It signed to Wayne, who signedthe cash Money, who signed to another
label. I was like, oh, he's like you about you got the

(21:15):
best memory ever, you know whenthey come to some beef chat. I'm
all in. And then he saidtone you. He was like, I
hear that. What more can Isay? He made me and catching straight?
Yeah you did? Yeah, butit was crazy. I was like,

(21:36):
because he won line that that's that'sit's interesting. It's interesting to see
what this is. Wh is gonnago talking about top Dog, and you
know how top dog coming on themcommercials. Baby, if that's the top
dog, ain't the top down?Ted out? You'll say it's broke,

(22:06):
sliding on the floor. Yeah,you're run through the car. You're with
your side chick. That ain't thetop dog. You're getting the crash.
You fly through the car, Callyour wife, call on top doll.
I thought you, Yeah, Ithought that. I'm like, damn top

(22:29):
dog that made it into the bean. No, no, let's get this
man, Let's scoot on y'all crazytime. I know this. This triggered
me exact. I'm sure because Iknow it triggered me. The GZ and
Jenny my situation. I saw thisand I was like, you, that's
dirty, that's dirty exactly. Yousaw What was you thinking? Oh?

(22:52):
GZ, Jenny min, I'm goingat it right now. They have the
welcome back. Thanks. Yeah,I got. I asked christ what were
you at? I just want tolet y'all know that I am, you
know, hosting my family reunion inthese family reunion group me, I'm hosting
Saturday at my house for the familyunion. Wow, and I've got responsibilities.

(23:15):
Yes, the pot baby, I'mshook. They let you do that
reunion book, okay, And Ihad got this thing from a T shirt.
Man, I'm over the T shirtstoo. Our baby im T shirt
is gonna be extra small. Wellthat's true. Maybe you can see if
they can do something for the pot. I could. Yeah, but that's
so petty and trifling. You too, a hold of yourselves mostly relax,

(23:41):
all right? Can we can wehear your take? And do you want
us to give you time to respondto I'm ready, I'm good, I'm
good, Genie mind jeez. Yeah, the simple as this day over this
day, in this custody battle,and it's really simple, Genie. May
you knew who Jez was. Youwas infatuated with him and his black culture
and who he was all together.GZ did not just now start doing stuff

(24:04):
he hadn't done. Okay, let'sbe honest. J GZ has been in
the industry over twenty something years.Only beef we knew Jez to have is
with Gucci. Yeah, that's it. And him and you know that group
that he had, Remember the littlegroup that he had for a second,
what happened to him? That wasquick? You know, like that postal

(24:26):
workers way, the postman boys onthe block. So it was something on
the block. What was it calledboys in the hood? Oh, boys
in the hood, and they brokeup. That might be the only drama
we've ever heard from Jez. Weget with Genie mine now he all over
the news. Who the problem?Who's the problem? What's the common denominator?

(24:48):
Genie is the problem? Genie isthe problem? Dog No, Jez,
a stand up guy man, respectable. You ain't heard nothing with other
women, that nothing. Then nowall of a sudden, you got footage
of him holding the gun like youdidn't. You dated him before and you
liked it. But like you saidbefore, Genny, mind you you test

(25:10):
black meat and you eat your whitemeat or whatever freaky ass that way you
said about I don't know what,what the hell ain't I ain't like you
said. Now, then you decidedto marry a black man, have a

(25:33):
black child, and now certain thingsthat may happen in black culture scare you,
and you in danger of the child. Know what you're doing? Is
you? You? You do?You idolized our culture and then when when
when y'all broke up, now youplay victimized our culture, and that ain't
right. Yeah, this is atrigger for me I'm triggered. I am

(25:56):
triggered. Got a while. Ifyou buy mad, you got to.
You have to. You gotta knowwho your chick is when she get mad.
Don't. You cannot don't because itjust getting nasty. Man, it
just gets nasty. I hate seeingstuff like this because it's just like you
look at it and and Jimmy mine, really I was like, Damn'm surprised

(26:18):
she went that way. I'm surprisedshe went away because of that comment that
Zack Butcher when she was talking abouthow she like a dark meat and then
she, you know whatever, thewhite meat whatever. She like dark meat
on the side. She's like darkmeat on the side. But then she
gonna the white meat for the maincourse or whatever that was. I always
thought that was weird. But youlike them, Okay, you end up

(26:40):
you bury a black man. It'sobviously about the coaching, and more about
the coaching than she probably ever dealtwith in her life. But you use
something against him to try to makehim look bad. GZ ain't done nothing
ever ever. Really, you justyou just see the Yeah, got streatly.
But I just think she playing dirtypool. This is something that this

(27:03):
is a bad tactic. And fellasagain. Watch who you watch you date,
ladies, watch you date, becausethey'll let when somebody gets mad,
they show you who they are.Has a woman ever done has a woman
ever done that? To Utah?Oh oh oh yeah. I just trust
I trust it crazy. When youshow me crazy, I run. I

(27:23):
trust it. I trust it,you know, I just trust you crazy.
I trust you crazy. I justdon't believe in and uh and people
that try and take people down,that's that's that's a you know, sometimes
you are in the relationship, relationshipin but they want to tear the whole
everything else down. That's crazy.That's crazy to me. Well about to

(27:48):
say I'm not about to say anythingnuts because I've already expressed how I felt
about this relationship when it began,and everybody was like, oh, black
women just don't like to see blackmen date outside they race. I could
give a damn. I got whiteaunties. I love them to death.
But my issue with this is I'mgonna stand up for the woman in this

(28:08):
case because although I love Jez andI do agree with everything you all have
said, there was a point inthe case, if I'm correct, where
Jeezi was requesting primary custody of theirdaughter. As a woman, when you
are with a man who resides inAtlanta, for some reason, the men
always end up with the children.So I got to do what I got

(28:33):
to do to protect my child andmy check. Okay, because I give
you my child, that's my checkand that's my you know what I'm saying,
Like, I don't know what's goingon in the Atlanta court system,
but all the time the man endup with the child. Ludacris custody of
the daughter, Usha custody of thekid. What is going on in the
legal system in Atlanta? They knowthat some of them chicks ain't standing on

(28:57):
nothing. No, they down therewith top dog law running the court system,
and the men keep getting these kids. So and Genie Matt probably was
like, he's trying to take fullcussy of my child. Unload the clip,
and that's why we ended up gettingthis. Now, in my opinion,
I my man walking around the housewith a AK forty seven. I
like it. I'm like, like, oh my god, you're not like

(29:22):
I sat up GC. I waslike, you're not, like, oh
child, what is the problem?Like, everybody's safe and secure. You
know what I'm saying like yeah,so I was like, I don't understand
the problem here. But again,if you didn't, you you you a
different type of woman that was scarier, you know, Oh my god,
so that's what you know? Hewas Wait wait Jesus with what type of

(29:47):
woman? Do what? You know? Oh my god? Like, oh
my god, is there? Youknow? I'm more like, oh,
like what you talk from it?Like the ring camera went off, like
where you going with the A whenyou yeah, like don't drink me with
a good time. So I thoughtit was you know, I looked at
it a whole different way. Butyou know, I wish I really hope

(30:11):
it turned I don't know, noman with an AK forty seven right now
like that I could like like ifsomebody showed me what what girl? Let
me get an AK forty seven.Baby, I'm in the house this summer.
But anyway, this is why allthe stuff got good because here they're

(30:40):
like, ooh y this, yes, just let me walk home with the
groceries and you like in the housecleaning your AK forty seven Like god,
So yeah, girl, I don'tknow what that was about, but I
really hope that they can, youknow, split and keep everything. Copa
stated, like, don't ruin Gzu'simage. He is worked very hard to

(31:00):
go by, you know, gWe call them gz J Jenkins, Yeah,
Jay Jenkins, and he wear themglasses and suits in a little vest
and he gonna play golf. Heoplike he take baths and moisturize like Zach.
So just leave Jezi alone and y'alljust break up and keep it equal.
But I'm trying to take the dog. That's just a good friend of
the show is. Let's go aheadand get to this one. Since you

(31:22):
brought up, you know, interactionaldating, we'll talk about it. So
the draft tab in the NFL drafthaabit and a lot of posts have been
flying around on social media about,you know, the black athletes and they
had white girlfriends. They're like,oh my god, this is why is
all these black athletes having white girlfriends? What's going on? And a lot
of people are blaming it on blackwomen, the state of black women,

(31:44):
saying that you know, I actuallysaw a couple of posts they were saying,
oh, you know, black womenwant this, they asking for stuff,
they want they want the athlete todo this with the white women are
coming in and trying to take careof them. I don't necessarily agree with
that. With that, I thinkyou date with you around because I think
those people at those big power forour schools, the sisters that's there,

(32:07):
I mean, they're not coming outside. They ain't coming outside. The girls
that the girls that go to Imean, I'm sure there's some, but
it's not a lot of black womenon those campuses that's probably coming outside.
They didn't try to get their degrees. But I don't know, what do
you think about all of the athletes, especially with the NFL Draft? What
do you think about that? Kiki? I think it's nothing new. It's

(32:30):
been like that forever. When youyou know, like it's like a part
of the athlete like deal, likethe package, like you get you you
know, a nice car, getyour white girl, and you get you
know, a nice little house,like you become. It's like it's just
not nothing new. So it didn'tshake the table for me seeing all these
black dudes with white women. That'snormal for the I mean, Kanye said

(32:52):
alone, I still think though,I still think there might be a two,
but both things might be true.I think one, I think you
date with you're around, But Ido think you gotta say this. This
is what was a lot of themwhen I heard the comments, were saying
that, yo, a lot ofthe black women that they do run across
is trying to get in their pocketsand not saying the white girl ain't trying

(33:14):
to get in their pockets, butthey hide and they hiding from it.
I don't know, is that thetruth or not? Or y'all just naive
and goofy like that. That's crazy. What just the just the idea that
black men date white women because blackwomen ain't doing something or acting the same
way. It's just makes me throwup because it's just so untrue. You

(33:38):
know what I'm saying, it's noteven close to truth. My cousins,
all of them, all of myKentucky cousins. I love y'all cousins.
They all got white women. Theyknow it's the truth. All my Kentucky
cousins got white women, all gotblack mamas, they all got white women.
Cousins got why they got white girlsin Kentucky, bro, Because it's

(34:00):
a lot of white girls in Kentucky, and the white girls in Kentucky like
them. Yeah, that's why mendate the women that like us. The
black dudes who are sitting here sayingthat dumb about how black women act like
this and like that. No,white girls just like your corny ass,

(34:21):
and black women don't like you.That's what it is you think. I
think it's a little bit of bumyou. I just don't think men.
I don't think men have had anexperience with black women, like, oh
my god, I hate black womenso much from this experience with this one
woman. Because guess what when themwhite boys to be I mean them black
boys to date them white girls.When they have a bad experience with that

(34:44):
white girl, they go get anotherwhite girl. They didn't switch and to
another another race. You know whatI'm saying, Like, who nobody dates
like that? So what do youso? What do you explain that this
this I'm just and I'm being Devil'sadvocate. I'm not saying that I'm Devil's
advocate, but this is what theysaid. They said. Now, in
black culture, black women, it'sabout money, money, money, money.

(35:05):
Why aren't you buy me? Buyme? Some is about that.
But that's just like saying to me, it's just like the reverse of when
they say, oh, black mendon't take care of their kids. You
know what I'm saying. Some don't, oh god, some don't, oh
god. You know, but youcan't just put that on all of us.

(35:27):
You know what I'm saying, Somewomen are gold diggers, but it's
you know, some ain't. Butyou can't put that on a whole race.
I just hate that, and theymake it gold diggers all over.
They come in all share size,and a lot of y'all don't even have
no money for us to dig.That's what I hate. The men in
the comments too, saying this,Black women, you're broke. You don't

(35:49):
even have anything for us to wantor chase after most of us make more
money than y'all. So let's stopthat narrative, because like it's crazy,
Black black women were working our assaf we out here running companies and hiring
y'all. So please, sorry,no, no, that was just to
the people in the comments. Okay, the people in the comments, I

(36:10):
get it. And if you don'tknow that, I'm sorry confused. I
was like, what what because I'mnot saying it. But I do think
in culture from a women's point ofview, looking at one women's point of
view, I think that they saythat, like the guys are going after

(36:36):
white women, and that that partI don't agree with. I just believe
that they're going to I mean,you're playing ball in US Okay, USC
is not a good Alabama. You'rein Alabama, and I don't I don't
know if it's a lot of blackwomen on Alabama's campus. I do know
some in Alabama State in Alabama andm maybe I don't know if there's some.
If you play, if you FloridaUniversity of Florida, I don't know.

(37:00):
It's just I just think that theaccess especially to to you know,
you might Yeah, I'm not gonnasay it's not even black women on the
campus. But does it look likeHoward? Hell no, don't look like
Howard. If them brothers, samething, if you reversed it and them
same athletes played at a Howard orsomething, they'd have a black woman sitting
on the couch. Bro. Theywouldn't go find the two three black girls,

(37:22):
three white girls to go to theschool and go get them. No,
no, that's what I'm saying.But if you ever notice this,
now, let's just now, let'slet's look at this one though, Let's
look at this. A lot oftimes you see the black athletes come out
with the with the white girlfriend orwhite wife, and they end up getting
replaced by black women because they ain'tseen, not not not a out and

(37:44):
they get not a ce Like,yeah, don't get excited. What now
you see them? Baby? You'relike, you got a game in Atlanta,
Atlanta, look a lot different gamesbefore. Now what what I mean
you didn't played, but you know, say football and you and my champagne.

(38:07):
I want to let you know whereyou go play for the Commanders and
go up to DC and on theroad ball park. One what I got
to Houston? Yeah? CJ.Stroud playing football at Ohio State University.
That's in Columbus, Ohio. Youdon't think when he got to Houston check
and see was like what listen?Yes, oh my god. So that's

(38:31):
that's a lot of looking. Imean, that's the reason when I wasn't
playing it. Russell wasn't playing within c State in Wisconsin. You got
him a black woman. Now thoughhe got out there and like ooh ooh,
I mean she liked me. Ohit's up up and I'm about to
see you up. You got threeof them, all of them back to

(38:52):
back back. Are you praying I'ma raging Why do you think I went
to t s U. He wasn'tfor the illustrious and I want to throw
some stuff in it. I justsaid. Russell was like, yeah,
I'm gonna eat three babies, butI'm You'm gonna raise your first one too.
That's how fast she was. That'swhat I'm raised. First one got
an interracial child. Yeah, soI had no. I don't have no

(39:14):
issue with interracial data. But Idon't think it was the fact that I
was like, yo, I'm justit was it was a relationship that happened.
It wasn't like I was like,Yo, I'm going to go find
me a white girl. And Idated other white women in my life and
it's never It's never been a thingwhile I've always said, and I was
to hear, like, yo,you you only like white girls? Like
No, I just I dated acouple back to back because that was what

(39:35):
I was around. But what ifI dated in my life majority has been
black women. Yeah, but youknow what I mean, I like,
I just I think it's it's it'slevels to black women too. It's definitely
I'm gonna tell you, look whatthis is now I'm a person. I'm
a person who's only been around blackpeople. Period. Okay, y'all knew.

(39:57):
I grew up in Gary black,went to all black high school.
Okay, But the reason I wentto the Tennessee State University is because when
I went on that college tour andI stepped on that campus, I saw
them women out. I said,sign I only grew up around black women.
But these black women were different.Okay, they were so fine and

(40:22):
the way the sun went off thebuttery brown skin. When I tell you,
Southern Midwestern's first taste of a Southernblack beautiful woman changes his life.
However, it's like biting into acenter bun for the first time you ever

(40:44):
had a hot center bud from themiddle of the mall, and it smelled
good, and you'd be like,this is a companion. Have you ever
had a hot window, like agood hot when you It's so good,
ain't it? Warrior? And Iwent down there, and I've never looked
back since. I've never looked backthat way when s I U, I

(41:07):
have never looked back then. Womenwas fine, the tour guide was fine.
I felt that way about s IU. I mean, I left
a black coge and went to apredominant white college. I just like,
Yo, this is great. It'sall these women in this door. They're
all right here, and they allthey all like me. I'm about to

(41:29):
figure I didn't have that luxury,have the luxury of all these women in
this door, and they all likeme at least. That's but that was
what that was what I told myself. If all these women, all these
women like me, he could beat church. All these women in here

(41:53):
they like me. I love itbecause I know you. You are.
You walk, and that's how youshould walk into any room. I do
not do that, kid. Youdo me like I have my pick of
everybody. It's all everybody here married, they all like me, they all
wish is wild. I don't eventhink that. I don't think that.

(42:22):
I did think that in college,though. I went out in college in
that door, and that door,I had never seen nothing like that.
I was like, why is itso many pretty women? That's how you
was a beautiful thing. I waslike, I'm like, this is like
my own little apartment. Yeah,I mean I thought that, But no,
I don't walk in the rooms likethat anymore. I don't do that.
I don't. I don't think thatyou can't, even saying with a

(42:44):
straight no, I don't. That'snothing to apologize for. It's okay,
you're supposed to walk like that.No, I think now that conversation I
could get. I could, ButI have a conversation with I if I
catch her. I smelled some evilon and like I think, I definitely
think I'm ana win, like Isaid, I do. He said,

(43:04):
it's a room full of a buildingfull of women, and they all want
like that's a quote. That's aquote. That's a quote from the talk
upon him. But I'm in theretrying to work. I'm like Zach and
that he doing out. I gottamake him. I know it's gonna be

(43:25):
a process. No, look,I got thirty days of work to put
in four weeks, the same typeof game. I gotta go the same.
We literally subscribe to the same gamehand book. Yes we do.
I've been in the parties with bothof y'all, and I work harder he
walk in, he's gonna find hima comfortable place to stand where he can

(43:47):
everybody can see his full fit.So you're gonna even gonna be like on
the edge of the bar or likeright at the section, he gonna stand.
Now, all tong got to dois standing. He's gonna stand there
with his Hennessy elimonade eight and he'sjust gonna stand there and smell and look
around the room. Zach, onthe other hand, and Zach is attractive.
And I see the girls in ourcomments who coming after Zach big?

(44:08):
Look what your hair cut? Sothe ladies love Zach too. But what
that's gonna do. Thata gonna goget him two drinks, one for him
and one for whoever he decided helikes. But he gonna go go around
the whole party smell. You seeall thirty two teeth. He gonna go
around smelling, and whoever give himthat bad back, baby, that's your
drink. And they gonna connect.But Tom, he's just gonna stand there

(44:29):
like because guess what, I gottahurry up and connect him. He doing
the damn meet and Greek before theyget the tone. So it's a lie,
y'all. It's let me go scouthim out for you big y'alls.
I see too, I know whatyou like that is not with Zach.

(44:53):
Zach has literally because he does.That is the thing to circle the party
and go through the party. He'llcome back. He'll come back and check
in. Eight big dog, I'mwinning here, baby. They like boom.
He starts talking about his seven thirdperson. I don't live. They

(45:15):
love so true. I got himlaughing. I'm going back, like what's
up? I'm going over there.Next question. That's that, And you
know he'd be like, he like, Kiki, this is a great party.
I didn't even ask you. Thatwas the part. This is a
great party. I'd be like,oh god, Zach, I love black

(45:37):
beautiful way like all women. Ye. Man never went back. And it's
something about women they get, especiallyblack women. When y'all start to learn
how to do y'all weave y'all,y'all go up too much. Y'all go
up to not what you said thebeginning. They should be rock the blend

(46:00):
be this part funny, this partsmooth and all. Yes, the lead
out is why do you know somuch about on? Y'all learn how to
blend it and y'all get y'all makeup together, y'all be super fun.

(46:22):
It's crazy. We're not gonna leaveKekey out on this. You know,
KII in a relationship. Yeah,Kiki definitely knows how to ladies don't fall
for the gas up. She's knowhow you're doing shots. And definitely Kiky
is she is gonna get the twerkinggoing. She was like, come on,
girl, he that's what that's reallythe person over there, that's really

(46:46):
the a. If you ever seeKicky out, she is definitely a Hey
go look at her. Nicki Minaj'svideo definitely all across it's drinks. She
always getting people dropped and that's whyshe am because she'll gin the hell is

(47:07):
that. Don't worry about her.It's a great classic cock here wild she
didn't make it. Seeing baby allright, thoughts, what a good what
a great pot, great pie.Shout out to the pot. That's it.
I love him. I love y'all, I love the pie. We

(47:28):
love it. Y'all. Keep runningthem numbers up and congratulations on that Pott.
Please stop gatekeeping what I've been seeingit. Mm hmmm, I see
y'all. It's a lot of y'allwho come out. Oh this is my
favorite podcast. I love y'all.This is the best podcast ever. But
I notice y'all not tagging people andtelling people to watch this clip or what's

(47:50):
it and I get it. Inour culture, we like to be the
first on stuff, and we liketo be the only one on That's one
of our things that we like.But y'all gotta stop gate keeping the pod.
I see a lot of y'all gatekare y'all coming right back. Y'all
love it, But tell your peopleso we can continue to grow. Yes,
and we're not gonna change. Thisis what they think. They think

(48:14):
we're gonna blow up, and thenwe're gonna get different in the pod.
Not gonna be the same. We'regonna stay the same. You're gonna get
different. Who's gonna get different?You're gonna be rich? How would I
be different? Though, I'm justplaying with you, Joe, Yeah,
be the same. Just joking.I'm joking. I'm joking you already rich.
I was like, wait a minute, so I ain't rich. Don't
tell them that that is y'all sugardaddy right there, Zach bug. I'm

(48:38):
definitely not gonna sugar daddy to I'mat least sixty. You will, sugar
daddy, though I wouldn't mind.I wouldn't like about about forty five,
too young? The sugar daddy.Okay, what I'm talking about what I'm
talking about. You sixty? Theyforty five? Yeah, no, I'm
not sugar daddy in no forty fiveyear old and I'm sixty. What about
what you gonna get? You gottabe thirty. You gotta be out my

(49:00):
range. Like I heard. It'scrazy. I'm thirty five. She thirty
five and I'm sixty. Tell youI'm dropping that paper. You hear me,
young girl? What you need?I know what you need because I've
been thirty five. Befock, I'vebeen thirty five before. I know you
need some new times. Don't takeit up to the I know you need

(49:20):
a full set. Don't take themup there. Oh my god, tell
him Larry took care of Sugaris fourtires at once. I'm gonna have.
I'm gonna get like I'm like.I want me like a like it used
to be real real fire back inlike a twenty ten, like a twenty
ten that used to be real fire. But I want man about about fifty.

(49:44):
I want my girl to have ahysterectory. I want no chance to
kids. This man sick. Weknow he like to put stuff in the
freezer. I'm trying to go outlike a but no, goddamn kids,
I was she ain't got nothing.That's so wrong on so many last Why

(50:05):
you got that? I don't wantto go. Man, you're gonna have
a good time. You imagine youyou want to child? That's ridiculous.
This man is gold here. Hehaven't what he got the child from one

(50:29):
corner? Man, what's going on? Seriously, that's crazy. I don't
blame you. I would I endup at sixty AFTERID sixty, I cannot
up and gotten child for court.Don't nobody want to no man ass baby?

(50:50):
Don't nobody want no old man assbaby? Right? Oh I can't,
I can't, I can't. Iwant to be able to shoot the
club on baby. We know we'restill traveling at this that. Yeah,
there ain't no babysitters. But ohyeah, here's another one. Also,
I'm sorry about the gym clothes stuff, ladies. I don't really be looking
like that. I do look downa lot, I am, you know,

(51:14):
But I'm not telling women they can'twear what they want to wear.
You could wear whatever you want towear. Just know when you got that
thing you making your butt you like, hey, everybody, my butl looks
good in it. Which I dorespectfully. I tell you you gotta do
the side peak. It's kind oflike when you get ready, like you
got to do both sides, likeyou check it make nobody around, you

(51:36):
know, when you take it,you pop up all type of tricks.
So now and then the last one, you got less than a second to
look because if you cant do along stands want out, it's gotta be
within the main movie. You gottabe like, yeah, all one movement,
don't stop. And last is thegray and the beard. Yeah what

(51:57):
was that? Okay, so whathappened with that hair? People got mad
because they were saying that I wassaying that every man doesn't want gray in
his beard. Like you know,I like the salt pepper. Look the
salt and pepper. That's the thingI get it for guys that's read.
It's like it's almost just like beingbald. It really, it is like
being bald, Like hey, someguys ain't ready to go ball, and
you like, hey man, lookyou your line's going. You got the

(52:19):
little shady part or you're getting themad unit. Do what you gotta do
to make yourself feel comfortable. Youain't ready to go ball? Cool I
did. I ain't ready to goall gray yet. I'm not ready for
salt pepper. Don't make me feelgood, you know, it makes me
feel good looking at this the black. And I'm not saying the guys that
have salt pepper you bogus. Andthat doesn't mean that I want young women.

(52:40):
Don't do that. Don't do that. I like all women like I
just told you, hey, lookit don't matter, and I can pull
off the die. I don't looklike an evil villain except on some episodes.
If you go back, I wasworking it out, yeah, because
I remember you was on like thejet black at first. But I'm happy
you switch your color. What colordid you switch? Switch? Dark brown?
Okay, remember when it was ashortage, it ain't they won't making

(53:04):
nothing. Remember it was one episodewhere yeah, he was like, they
y'all out the stores out, Theyain't lining, they can't make it.
I combun was so funny. Itwas bad. I was walking around with
a grand black beard. I ain'tlike that. You should do costco and
just I mean, like, getlike a group. You can't just buy
a lot of it in Boom,it's hot the man, are you trying
to be funny. Nope, shotgonna change when you get rich. No,

(53:30):
I'm not gonna change. No,but no, I'm not no,
no shot. You're gonna pay forfood like like you don't like when you
get rich, and you're gonna liketreat me and Kiki? Why what not?
Yeah? I got y'all what y'allwant? Damn? What happened?
You owe him some money for food? You had tong get an uber east
the water in there? Paying back? No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't
mind. I'll take y'all out todinner. Okay, we ain't gonna do

(53:52):
that. I ain't putting no dateas soon as we get the shirts.
Why are you? It's better thanDrake and Kendrick? What's going on?
And the thing? He had toomuch sauce and now we haven't realized.
You don't put all these packages toketch up on my one nugget and I

(54:13):
realized did too much. I hadone nugget. I threw one nugget in
it. Y'all want to fight?Hit my head? My head is crazy.
No, I'm not mad, andthat's not even a fair. Fight
is way bigger than me, right, have you? I would never fight
that I would do players with beinge. I would do stuff to him.

(54:35):
I would like steal stuff and thenlike like steal his laptop for like a
week, like with my laptop,like that's my big. Dude got mad
at me one time and beat meup by He wouldn't hit me because we
was cool, but he did tossme around. Oh my god, and
you just have no control, likejust beat me up. Yeah, that's

(54:58):
worm. I ain't gonna hit you. You talking to you while you throw
you around? Oh my god,Oh Zach, I did some stupid show.
I had tripped m or something.Got mad. I ain't gonna hit
you. I finally caught me andstarted like enough. Oh my god,
Yeah, that's worse. That wasworse, and I couldn't do nothing.

(55:21):
That's when I realized I couldn't goto jail. You know, let's get
out of here. Man, Whatbore can we say
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The Burden

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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.

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