Deacon Tone, The Russell Simmons Argument, Family Members Shade & More

Tone Kapone, KeKe, and Zach Boog talk Deacon Tone, The Russell Simmons Argument, Family Members Shade & More!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, welcome to it. What can I say?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Podcast episode rider to eighty four to ninety four.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Damn even the first.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
The very first time rider. That's crazy. Rider's okay. I
said Tiger was the best rapper.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Were good?

Speaker 4 (00:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I'm one of your whole shong
pone that was happening, y'all? All right, welcome, welcome, all right,
the first lady of the pot little Evil today Fluffy
and five Keiki, what's happening?

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Rag City?

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Rag rack City. I'm not easy, okay. I just don't
want to hear all that hooting and holland about sports.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Okay, I don't want to We don't want to hear that.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
You need to tap in. We tap in with all
of the reality shows. Were trying to learn more about them.
You need to learn about sport.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
They just did a whole podcast before this podcast about sports,
and I had to sit and listen, so we would
have still been we wouldn't even been started.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
We were just passionate about the sports teams.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yes, they just passionate about their parlays. Ain't there what
you'all callings?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
They plays? That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
But I'm back, I'm nice. I'm being nice today Zach,
I told you I'll talk to the people, all.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Right, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
That man she referred to over there, comedian and funny man,
Zach boh Man, what's up boy?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
What's up? Own? Hey? Y'all? All right? Other than Key
being mean.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Shoot some hoops, talking about some layups, he said, hey,
shut up.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Don't nobody say nothing else about sports? Take that ship outside?

Speaker 1 (01:48):
What's us out over there?

Speaker 5 (01:51):
They ain't got mad at me, like you know what
we said at lunch, that's your fault.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
What are you talking about? And I ain't even like
my food? What do you order it? I'm like, how
to do with me? Definitely got blamed for her experience.
Was messed up that she mad here loveing his lunch.

Speaker 6 (02:07):
He wasn't even gonna go there. He was gonna go
to the other place.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
He told me about. I'm gonna go order it tomorrow.
You should. It's good, bro. Shout out to Ryan. Put
me on.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
It's just hard to hear, y'all. It's it's four men
and me.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
That's how you know, so hard.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
I gotta keep them off me, ut me. They want
to talk sports with me, I'm not one of the bros.
I don't care I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Oh that's so messed up. Hey, I'm disappointed at you too.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Y'all didn't even talk or say anything about my my
time in the pool pit this past Sunday.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
Did he catch you gonna fire?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I saw you on that brother, congratulations?

Speaker 6 (03:04):
Did your thing on Instagram? I hearted, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Want a chance to touch the fellowship stage. Yes, you're doing.
I was talking about our pastores cultural impact.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
Okay, shout out pastor shot shout out the pastor shop
and shout on the six year pastorial anniversary.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yep, and lady for sure, yep. Shout out to them.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
You get up there and start talking like a pastor.
Keep it?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Did you just give up a little? He knew once
he got a little clap. You should have seen it.
He got they gave him a little ape.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
Man, and then he started doing a dramatic policy.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
You know he access You don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
I went back and checked that. I went to the
eight o'clock. I went back and watched at one o'clock,
and he told me he started putting it on war.
He had on a little sweat event. Never tell Jess
I had a Louis.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
I had a Louis Vauton zip up with a Livaton
College shirt underneath.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I want, you know you put Louis.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, I had, you know, anniversary. I gotta you know
what I mean. So I went up there and that's funny.
He went back and watched it. My mama went and
washed it. She was she said, boy, she was like, boy,
you you did all right up there. She was like,
you look like you got some of your future. I've
always felt that the later part of my life would

(04:30):
be that I've lived in the world. I know, I enjoyed,
like I really I enjoy church like I know you
do you do go I enjoy like I don't. I
don't be like I enjoy church. I enjoy going inside
the church means I enjoy seeing people get you know,
get messages.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
I don't know what do you see yourself going like?

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Do you see it like you you pastor?

Speaker 5 (04:57):
Do you see yourself as like a deacon can assistant
pastor or something?

Speaker 1 (05:02):
The deacon pastor that once he I get to get
to work.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
A deacon pastor.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Past me a deacon past I think.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
You would be great because let me tell you what
the Lord ain't looking for. He's not looking for a
perfect person. He's looking for the vest. So that's willing
and I think you would do an amazing job. Yeah,
so you know what, right on, brother deacon, brother.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Deacon, preacher, preach, apostle.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
That's so, that is so amazing though I was when
I saw you, I was like.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Oh my god, don't watch it go out. I thought,
like Zach is right now.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
I will say for the pastes when they say man,
they want you to give a little call and responsor
neither a man a couple of a mans to get
you going up.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, he should have said. He started he started blinking,
and that's when he's feeling it now. And at one
point they just clapped like all together, just like it
was clapping. He had a whole pulse break like clap
like it was.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
It was really dope. You spoke from the heart too, Yeah,
it was. It was a heart speech. That's good speech
because I appreciate passing shot shot him.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
You do.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
Okay, all right, that's hold on. So a few things
we need to address before start the pot. Okay, first,
second thing we need to address. We talked about you
at church. We need to talk about kis.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
T shirt right now? What's going on? What's your shirt?
Saying try to you. Ain't never set like that.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
It says I am part of o'maryan's entourage.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
No, it says head head of Now who did you
get that? And who did it?

Speaker 3 (06:39):
So my best friend did it. She she made this
shirt for me back when O. Marian did the thing
on stage, so way back then. She made this shirt
for me when he said you want to be you
the head of the age. So she's had this. She
just recently gave it to me though, and I wore today.
But honestly, I wasn't trying to even show it off
like that.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
But Zach just you know I saw it, so yes,
well that's good, shout out to you. I just wondered
what was going on.

Speaker 6 (07:06):
It's very on brand for me. Ain't nothing changed, ain't
nothing new about me.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
And I knew it was customed. I knew that. I
know it wasn't another one.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
I'm cool you are your own one. Well mm hmm,
you one of these.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
The last thing I want to bring up then I
want to address.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
Hold on now you know we're just having a conversations. Yeah,
we're just talking on the podcast. Last thing I want
to address is you two losers. The pod do you
all see that the pod agree with me on my
eggnog tape? And y'all haven't even addressed the fact that
the Pod had my back on the egg nog.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
They did, they did.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
But try it out if you really watch that, if
you really know us, you know, see a lot of them.
People don't know us. That's in them comments. They was
new to the pod. If you watch it and really
know us, they know I was trolling you. I'm saying
is freaky. That ain't really a fact about that, you know,
I say, that's just something to say.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
I was just trying.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Like but I saw I saw all the eggnog warriors
in the world. They about to unite and okay about eggnog.
Like I was trolling, but hey, it's still freaky. You're
still freaky for that. And I bring y'all some to try.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
I'm not don't ask.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
I don't want to make eggnog for y'all if you
really like it.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Seriously, that's what I mean.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
Y'all was serious about not trying it, and I want
you to try it before you judge it. You've never
I've had it.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
No, listen, I don't want your drinks. I want your
rum your eggnog. I don't want it.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
I would giggy on that one. Yes, No, I'm cool.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
I don't understand that's right, But the eggnog, I mean
they can't founds of comments.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Who knew?

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Who knew the eggnog would get a popular like that?
So gets it popular?

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I made y'all.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Hey, you got all the people in the condess and
write them to your egg nog party with the low
bone to freaked out for me?

Speaker 1 (09:06):
It's a nasty man. Yeah, all right, man? An update
come only.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Simmons respond to Russell Simmons accusing her of turning their
kids against him.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
Her response is in the group texts Okay, I don't
think he's supposed to read that part.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Oh, I just kept going, I.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
Got you, I got you. It says.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
I'm just reading.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
She said, my girls are grown women. You know that
these are lies. Why are you typing from thousands of
miles away in a non extradition extradition country.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
Go negotiated answer your accusers?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Got dog?

Speaker 3 (09:49):
She's she did that.

Speaker 6 (09:53):
That's a clap back for your ass.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
She ate him alive.

Speaker 6 (09:56):
She said, go talk to them, accusers.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
That was a don't play with me. Stop playing with
before it get real. I know where all the body's buried.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yep, that is true. That's what she said on this
Go talk to them, accusers. Our daughters has grown.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
If you wanted a relationship with your kids, they've grown.
You don't have to go through me no more. They
twenty three and twenty five, they got phones. You could
talk to them. You ain't got me to talk to them.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
And I'm sitting in that country where they can't come
get me. I'm gonna keep going, keep talking my stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
If they can't get go negotiate and answer your accusers.
Is wild. Yeah. Yeah, the fact that you know that's
just a sad thing.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
You know, Russell got the hell up out of here
and has not ever come out.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
He not ever coming back ever. And that's the crazy
thing you're talking about. The person that invented depth jam
and quite frankly that I don't want to be you
know me and.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
To Kamal Alice Simmys. But we wouldn't know who the
hell she was if it wasn't for Russell Simmons.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
She's just another pretty woman. Key.

Speaker 6 (11:00):
She would have been a supermodel that we would have known, okay,
well to the status in the culture exactly, but we
wouldn't know her.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Because she was.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Being a model. But let's stop it. We're talking about
this level.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
God, we would have been we would have been seen
her and not on the level have a.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
But my modeling career, guys, just because it was like
Tyra Banks, No, no, but it was, it was, it
was excelling. That's how she ended up running into a
Russell because she was on a very high fashion runway
in Paris, already with the who's who's of the fashion industry.

Speaker 6 (11:40):
That's how he found her.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Seventeen nobody.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
We don't know nobody else on seventeen.

Speaker 6 (11:46):
So if I was him, I wouldn't come back to
this country either.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Damn Russell seventeen, She.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
Was seventeen, he was thirty.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
No that I didn't know that part right.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
So one he went on up into a you know, school,
he bumped into it because she was already in the
work for we would have known, we would have known.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Who to stop poking the beer for real, he gotta
stop poking the beer.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
This saying what you want to do? That? That ain't it?

Speaker 2 (12:16):
But I mean, I just hate seeing these type of things.
And again he's probably going off of and this is
if somebody that's kind of lived it in a way,
in a certain way that the I'm trying to think
of the right way to say it, things that happened
in the past can affect the future relationships, right. So

(12:38):
he's what I think with Russell's speaking to what could
have allegedly happened, is that Russell and Camor's relationship may
have been a bit toxic and that could have rubbed
off on the kids, and all the kids don't want
a relationship, and that's he's blaming the lack of the
relationship for what happened past transgressions.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
But you know that's hard to do when you thoubt
miles away and won't true, that's a tough That's a
tough tape, you know what I'm saying, Like, you're a
thousand miles away and you won't come back, can'ked in
so that.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
I can't give you that brouh.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
I know a lot of times women do make it
tough for a lot of guys having a relationship with
their kids. I get that, But being a thousand being
in another country talking about yeah, you you the reason
why no, you the reason why you don't want to
stand over there a thousand miles away. Y'all might have
been able to mend the You might have been able
to mend the relationship had you been in the United States.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Did one of his daughters go visit him?

Speaker 3 (13:33):
My thought, Yeah, allegedly the younger daughter, I think went
over and spent some time with him out there, and
that visit him. But he's had a weird, strained relationships
with his girls for a minute, Like I don't know
if y'all remember a couple of years back, he was
online yelling and screaming at them and cursing them out online.
They posted the videos to him, So you know, Russell

(13:54):
Simmons is an icon in our culture for what he
did at death Jam. But I think there's a person
outside of the man that we y'all know that Kamor
and her girls may have experienced that it's causing her
to react like.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
That to him.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Sometimes men crash out in a way, and I'm not
giving Russell any excuses, but sometimes people like of Russell
Simmons that is achieved the type of success that he has,
he might want a certain thing for his girls and
a lot of times people get especially that dads get
get looked at bad in a way because they want

(14:24):
to try to navigate the path of the child.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Well, he don't really need to navigate their path. Because
one graduated from Harvard, the other one is the top
of her.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Class in a business. What do you think that they're
amazing but his but.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
Russell's What we're forgetting is is that Russell's finances and
status helped start that.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
He's helped start that.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Those kids, those kids have been put in the best
educational since because of Russell Simmons genius, his and and
the money that he provided. So what happens is is
that you want to still try to help and God,
that's that stuff doesn't happen without Russell Simmons genius.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
From depth Jairs, Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
You don't get you, but you you get it. You
graduate Harvard from your hard work and dedications.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
You don't get the Harvard but but you don't get
There's two.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
You don't get to Harvor without your daddy paying for
a good private school, for a good for another, good
for tutors, for everything.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
You you don't you don't get there. I'm just saying
in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
You don't get an applause because you did your job
as a parent, even what you running from accusers.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
And it's not about applause, it's about appreciation. That's the
other words. It's the other word that a lot of people.

Speaker 6 (15:38):
It's hard for me to appreciate you, d when you
run it from accusations.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
In the country.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
That's fair, son, I mean, yeah, he did his job
as a father.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
Okay, But what else?

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no. How
do women get there?

Speaker 6 (15:51):
What else did you do that prevented you from being
in your girl's day to day life.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
That's my issue.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
But but but it's not fair. It's not fair for you,
not for you to skip over. Okay, a job as
a dad. That's not that's not cool.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
That's not cool.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
That's not cool, because that would be like me saying, okay,
digit job is a mama no a mama's no no,
a good mama, a good mama doing her good mama.
Mama job is a part of the help that helps
you achieve the greatness. But it's a it's a big
difference from a good mama and a good daddy doing

(16:26):
what they supposed to do.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
That helps children go on to be great. So we
can't give over that.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
I can't say, let me finish this. I can't say
he's a good father. He didn't raise me, and from
what I've seen on the internet, it didn't look like
he had too much to do with raising his daughters
after they after he went to another country.

Speaker 6 (16:42):
So I don't.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
I can't say he's such a good father. What I
can say is I believe that he definitely provided financially
from them. But outside of that, I don't know what
Russell did for these kids. I can look at what
the girls are saying and how they're acting and reacting
to him, and where they're standing now.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (16:59):
So maybe you know he was a good father.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I don't know. No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
My point being is this is that we can't look
over the financial the financial because a lot of people
the financial is a part of it. You can say
he'll pay for the thing, that's not that's a huge
You can't have that part without the relationship, and that's
the issue. Sometimes I think I think that's the issue
because I know fathers who couldn't put their kids in

(17:24):
private schools and didn't have the funds like Russell, but
they have a relationship with they and they daughters adore them.
Who fought baby Mama's all types of stuff, you know
what I'm saying, Like all types of tough situations and
strange relationships and still have still have maintained a relationship
with their child.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
You know what I'm saying. I don't care if the
child work at McDonald's. You know what I'm saying. I
think the true test of being a father is through
your kids f with you. But because and I think
and I give him credit, I do. I give him
credit for paying these bills. I think what you're saying
a lot of times when the things that men have

(18:03):
to provide gets overlooked so quick and we just throw
that under the rug like it ain't shit, even though
he dedicated his whole life to even be able to
do those things. But you got to you got to
have the relationship part two.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
You know what I'm saying, Like if you.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
Zach, baby sometimes can sometimes the relationship. And again to
his own doing, like Keiky said, to his own doing,
he has strained it because of the things that he's
done outside. Well, he's a alleged accused of doing doing
has has Mundy the waters All.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
I'm all I'm saying is that we got to give
a little bit of credence to what what he's provided
to help those, help everybody that's involved with a Russell Simmons,
to help Kamae Simmons, that Camaie Simmons, she's still this
man all away all the way in a whole other country,

(18:58):
got an accusation, she's of all of these different things.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
About them, but she still got that band's last name,
kids last name.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
Because because she was married, you got other kids too,
and she's been married to other people.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
I know, I understand that. But she built the brand
off Comorley Simmons.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Because it was brand buildable. Yeah it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
She's a supermodel and she has y'all need do y'all
research on Kamortley Simmons.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
I ain't gonna keep I ain't.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Brand buildable like Simmons name.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Okay, what did that matter? What I'm saying is Malee
is a brand. It was a brand women when Russell Mattter,
y'all need to.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
Go look that up.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
I know that she was popular. We're not We're not.
We're not we're not we're not doing that.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
She was birtha birtha baby fat wasn't gonna hit the same.
So we gotta give Kimora some credit. She's a superman.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
But baby Fat came from baby thank you? And who
is the creative fat.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Her fashion connections didn't help fat Farm come into existence.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
Russell Simmons did music. Are we okay?

Speaker 5 (20:03):
No?

Speaker 1 (20:03):
No, I was allowed that that was during.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Baby that Russell Simmons was was one of the most fashionals.
He was the one that kind of in v inventis
street wear. He was he was the exec that didn't
wear the tie. He was the exec that was coming
in in the in the call canis in the powerhouse?
What she said she introduced some to fashion.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
You don't think her connections helped with the creation of
fat Farm and where it went.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
No, I think Russell Simmons was one of the most
powerful black men in America and he yes, she was
able to cultivate fat Farm.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
I don't think he had anything to do.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I think her creative fashion that he didn't have anything
to do with fat Farm.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
She was a baby fat.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
I'm sorry she was able to to cultivate a brand
on her own, but it came off of Russell. So
I'm not gonna I'm not trying to shoot on camor
Lee Simmons at all. But what I am trying to
say is that this we can't he was the foundation
if we can't.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Forgive seventeen guys. Yeah, yeah, Mike Groomer taught me stuff. Yeah,
Mike Groomor helped me do stuff. Okay, so what are
we doing?

Speaker 6 (21:16):
So I'm just staking the fact she was seventeen, he
was thirty.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
You're trying to compare.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
You know what he showed her. Yeah, he's supposed to
show u stuff. He's thirty, well.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Enough to be her dabdy.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
But but I'm saying what you're trying to say is
that his contribution means nothing.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
That's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
What I'm saying is we have to give credit to
her as a mother for where those girls are today,
because we don't know the status of his relationship with
his daughters, and if we go out, what we see
in the public doesn't look so great. So I cannot
vouch it. He was a great father. Now, we got
into the fashion discussion and you always like, well, she
ain't did this since her name is completely off of Russell,
and I just had to remind everybody that she was
a supermodel when he met her. You don't running those circles,

(21:55):
Steven meet Russell Simmons unless you are doing something great.
So even at her tender age of seventeen, she was
on a runway and that's where he spotted her, not
on not on the runway down at the flea market,
but she was in Paris on the runway. So that
to me is like, okay, she was doing something. So
to say that she would be nothing if she never
met Russell, I think beginning no.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
No, no, no, we were saying that, we were saying
we would not know. Kmallee Simmons would not have the
impact on culture. Models typically don't have that big of
an impact on culture unless they move into like a
Miss America type.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Of thing like Cambell exactly so exactly, yeah, exactly like Mary,
Like it's just they was just.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
They just know they they had they had the it.
We don't know if come on, we never gonna know.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
She had the it because when she got her Russell,
look at the brands they made, the brands.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
That she ain't no brands aft and know what I'm saying,
so what Like, I know again, I'm not shipping on it.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
I don't want to. I don't want to. Like, here's
what y'all are. Y'all are.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
Y'all are both moving to go to be honest, y'all
are both moving to because all Tom wants to do
is credit Russell Simmons for what Russell Simmons created. Kiki,
you is shipping on Russell Simmons, like as saying that's
what he's supposed to do being a great Uh what's
it called pioneer to to hip hop and culture and fashion.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
It's not what you're supposed to do. That's extraordinary, especially
if you're gonna call her nothing to do with fatherhood.
But I'm not saying, well, we were demating about his fatherhood.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
I'm getting there. I'm getting there.

Speaker 6 (23:34):
So me saying what he contributed to hip hop with that.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
I'm gonna sit out.

Speaker 6 (23:39):
I'm right, Russell Simmons as a part of the culture.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
That's not.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
What I'm going I'm going talking about fatherhood. We're going
to the fatherhood park, right the carse.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
He's tried to make it make sense, but he's not.
I'm talking to Tom, but go ahead because he's talking
to me. So what do you call because I was talking,
But you just made a fact that wasn't true. You said, Keiki,
you shipped on Russell Simmons about you.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Can go back and change that. You ain't got to
do it in the middle of the go ahead.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
What I'm saying to the fatherhood piece, him being a father,
it was enough because of what he built, he was,
that was enough for Kimore to have a whole career.
You know what I'm saying, Like shit, I can't speak
on the father. No, he was, he was a husband, Okay, okay,
that was enough for her to have her for her
to still want the brand this day, even though it's aizations. Yeah,
she want the name that she want that name. She's

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been married twice since then. They took none of them names,
all right, had other kids too, So it ain't just
about the kids. Then you then you add what he's
saying is the kids got a great start in life
because of what Russell built and Kimora's contributions as a mother.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
You got to give them both that. You got to
give them both that.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
And what he's saying is you can't ship on Russell's
contributions or him as a father, because part of being
a father is providing and protected. So did I ship
on him he provided that? Or did I say, I
can't say that he's a good father.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
You said, but but you say, okay, you did that?
Who cares? You said?

Speaker 3 (25:19):
You talking about what he provided financially? And what I said?
I didn't say, who dismissed? Because when we talk about
fatherho what you just said? You just proved my point
in this switch sides.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
You just sat here and agree with me about how
a father is not just financial and it could and
a man can't even have a job and be a
great father.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Did you just say that you can't thank you? So
what did I say?

Speaker 6 (25:40):
Differently?

Speaker 1 (25:41):
You still dismissing what the what provided? Because if your.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Father gave you a million dollars and never spoke to you,
is that a great father?

Speaker 1 (25:49):
No, you're a great father?

Speaker 6 (25:51):
So yes or no I am your father.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
We're going to extreme, That's what I'm going so extreme.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
I just want to ask you to answer this question
because you just sat here and said a father could
not have nothing and he could be a great dad.
And so when I say he's his point is Russell
paid for this, and Russell made this, and.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
I said, okay, but that don't mean he a great father.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yes, no, no, I know.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
What I was saying is because none of us, honestly,
none of us know how good or bad Russell Simmons
his his fathering is.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
But his point being, I mean, some people that look
like they're the best dad and turned out to be
the worst dad.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
So again we don't know.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
So what I was saying was, which I'll go back
and they can go back on the pot.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
I would say, you.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Was dismissive over Russell's contribution, you like we had it
since they went to Harvard, they had to be doing something.
I'm saying, Russell's Russell's success which we all know when
you had kids. One day, when Zach has another kid,
if I have another one, the success of us will

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put our kids in a different place than what they
would be people for prior generations of our family. And
that's all I'm saying is that we have to acknowledge
that those kids didn't magically get to where they were at,
and they obviously have some type of relationship with them.
That's why I asked, didn't a young one go visit him.

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So he had to have something. And again from a
person that's lived something like this, is that the relationships sometimes.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Men hold on to the past.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Hey, remember when you were making it hard for me
to see my kids, Remember you made it hard for
me and you did this. Remember you did this, and
that was affecting the relationship. So now when they become
twenty five, or they become twenty two or twenty three
or whatever age you as a father, you started to
think about all of those times that they were playing

(27:52):
with those playing with the relationships in the past, and
it's affecting the now.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Does that make sense? That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
We don't agree, but.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
All right. The baby confirmed that he never slept with
Kamon Lee Simmons.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
And then the radio personality decided to backtrack and say
he meant to say uh bird man instead of the baby,
which shows that that person welcome them on the radio.
You are a journalist, you should know what the if
you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
I gave the baby all that credit yesterday. I mean,
I was so proud of the baby we were I
saw I was like, damn to have the balls to
step to km on Lee, and you've been famous four
years and it wasn't even the right person. It wasn't
even that, but us knowing the baby, uh, we're definitely

(28:50):
a friend of the show. I would suggest you don't
say his name no more. The other radio personality. He
wasn't playing with.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
You or he did heat.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
I saw the baby mad, he responded. He reponded in
a very street dude way.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
What do you say?

Speaker 2 (29:08):
It was basically like a man how dag like, I
can't believe you had the nerve to say my name.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
He said.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
I don't know what you own bringing me in this,
but don't do that. I ain't got nothing, he said.
I don't mean no disrespect to the woman. I don't
want nothing happened like he was. It's watch it and tell.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Me what you think. Well, I don't want the baby
to be mad about that mistake.

Speaker 6 (29:33):
Would y'all be.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Mad about that? You know what?

Speaker 5 (29:35):
The baby been trying to be low? Yeah, he was chilling.
He ain't been in nothing and been out the way.
And then I'm trending all of a sudden because funk Master,
because dude is yelling, yeah you know what I'm saying,
Like he's really yelling, telling everybody, I slept with somebody.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
I don't even know what you could.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
You don't know my relationship situations? Is that like, but
I came on you bringing up too much dust in
my life for it ain't even on no merit.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, Now imagine you gotta you gotta, you gotta chick
and y'all. You might he might be trying to really
lock in with what some and then she asked him
about people. And now this dude is saying stuff you
causing problems at his house and he like it. Just
and then just from interviewing the baby on several times,
he doesn't like to talk about his personal life.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
He will, but he don't like it.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
So I can imagine somebody just pulling him into some
stuff that he ain't had nothing to do with.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
If you watch the video, you're gonna see. So did
he say the birdman? Is that what he tried to say?

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Like not baby and that baby baby bird man baby.
So he's saying he meant baby.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Is a baby.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
But when I heard it was actually birdman baby, that
made way more sense.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
And that's the truth. They did. They did date for
a n but I still I still thought that.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Was weird for that radio person to bring him up
and say, hey, man, like, come on, at least Simmons
was single, Like it wasn't like she was sneaking around
with with the bird man when they when when he
was when they were day, they.

Speaker 5 (31:13):
Were out, And I think I don't think that dub
baby respects that corniness that funk Master Flex did trying
to bring up who she slept with that was lane
and then then you bring me into it, and that
week you got me in this lane as like that's
the And I ain't never heard the baby really brag
about who he slept with.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Mm hmmm. Oh except, okay, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
I don't want to fight me in today, man, fighting
with the baby.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 6 (31:42):
I don't want to smoke. I don't want to smoke
with the baby.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I love the baby.

Speaker 6 (31:45):
Okay, I don't want to talk about who he said
he slept with.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
Oh yeah, I know he'll kill her. Though I didn't
didn't gonna say I ain't gonna talk about it.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
I just know that that that dude don't play no games,
no games in the streets.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Man.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
All right, cool, let's go ahead and get to this.
Though Nelly announced did you see this?

Speaker 6 (32:11):
Yes, I did.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Saint Louis.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
I told you, I know you so happy to tell y'all.
I tried to tell y'all this is great. I didn't
know this was coming, but they one of the greats
broke Nelly Saint Luia Tics album being produced by metro
Boom and Saint Louis on Saint Louis.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
It's gonna be amazing.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
I'm I'm asking the kid in me is excited. When
I say kid in me was really excited to see
Nellie in the Saint Luthera Tics back on metro Booming beats.
I think I was the only person on this pod
who played the hell out of that metro Booming tribute
he did to Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
I like, I played the hell out of that. I
ain't gonna say I played the hell out I did.
I like the Droe songs. I went crazy. It took
me back to a time.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
So one thing I know metro Booming can do is
bring nostalgia, whatever nostalgia he trying to bring from that
Saint Luthera Tics.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Nellie. Ever, y'all didn't like.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Which one of y'all didn't like the metroc woman, one
of y'all said it sounded like he needed to leave
them old beats alone or something.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
No, no, no, why you.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
I didn't say it.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
I know.

Speaker 6 (33:17):
Because I need them to fact check everything today.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
I need them to do you'll homework. But when Zach
was saying he was sick of it because it's the
old beat, I think.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
I think I want is that your I think I
mind said that. I think I would.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
I might have said I listened to it, it was cool,
but I like, I would like those old beats to
never come outside again.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
And I said, I.

Speaker 6 (33:42):
Love Okay, okay, I think that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I loved I don't want to Take Me Through That
is absolutely one of my favorite records.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Though, okay, take me Through that is it's something about
that that it grew. It grew on you, be honest. No, No,
I like, I like to take me to the first
time I heard like, it's a lot of stuff on
that Metro album. It was bad. I just wanted to
stay remind me, remind you of Atlanta in the early
two thousand. That's what it felt like.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
One of y'all was hating, I'm gonna get to the bottom.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Oh my god, he just tried to backtrack. What do
y'all say?

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Well, look, I get the backtrack, got the Kicky literally
has jumped from Ovio to Kendrick's side.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
See, I admit when I'm flipping like I see y'all like,
okay today, I'm.

Speaker 6 (34:30):
Td e key Tomorrow I'm over here.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, I admit it.

Speaker 6 (34:33):
But y'all sit here and act like this never happened.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
I'm Christy. I will.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
I know you will. I know you.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
I ain't gonna lie, but I will.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Lizzo celebrates after weight shaming allegations were dropped from her
former employees lawsuits. So shout out to Lizzo. That was
a bad thing. I didn't understand that.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Did anybody ever think weight shaming allegations are gonna stand
up in court against Lizzo? Come on, that don't even
make sense, huts for what if you don't understand what
happened is her background now is are suing her for wrong,
wrongful termination and a legend that she did all kinds
of stuff to them. But one of the pieces in
the lawsuit was that she fat shamed them and she

(35:15):
fired them because they gained weight. Come on, now, we're
talking about Lizzo who'd been out here getting fat shamed
a whole career, So why would she turn around and
do that to some backup then? So that don't even
make sense, but it got dropped, and so you know,
hopefully she can move forward.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
We'll go shout out Lizzo. All right, let's take a
listen to this from Coco Jones.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
I actually have been very into nice nasty reads.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
I would get a couple of pivots.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
So when she says something, I'd be like, Oh, Auntie,
don't you.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Need to worry about that job? He wasn't.

Speaker 6 (35:46):
No, I think you don't need to worry about uncle,
because I thought he Oh, I just feel like you.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
I thought you had a lot on your hands.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
Okay, it seems like you got a lot of free
time these days.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Period.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
You know what, I like to know our free time
pilates aggy a little read like that, because girl, you
know what, at this point, we have boundaries.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
That is good. Its click on her feet, man, y'all
gotta leave that lady alone.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
Man, Oh, that's crazy, so quick on her feet she
was to give a little context. She what she was
talking about was how you're supposed to read the family
when they come to you talking about some why you
ain't married, why you ain't got no kids, why you
ain't doing all that?

Speaker 1 (36:19):
And then she's like, you just hit their ass right
back where it hurt. Why you ain't class? I thought
I believe in that. I don't, man, I can't.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
My my, you know, everybody's family said some crazy stuff
I tell people.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
And I you don't believe in clapping back.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
It's hard for It's hard for me to do it.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
I do every once in a while because as a Gemini,
we go too far, we go too far, we go
too far.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
So you gotta that's true. I have to. I have to, like,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (36:55):
I tell people, I got to be the weakest dude
in the world because everybody says the craziest it to me.
Everybody says and does wild stuff to be like, I
don't even bothering people coming.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
What up?

Speaker 4 (37:06):
You?

Speaker 1 (37:06):
What an old man? I know you're getting sleepy in here.
What I'm just drinking and drinking, having a good time.
I'm like, why why this? I mean the things that
I could tell you that people say to.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Me on a regular Literally, I'm trying. Zack's not lying
to you. When I say, like, I'll call Za black.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Zach.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
I got to be the weakest dude in the world
because everybody just say anything to me.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
God, I don't think they trying you, just they think
that they're your friends and they plan I know, and
that's what it comes from. It's like, oh, I want
to It's like I want to talk to tone, but
I don't know what to say. Here's a joke. Maybe
he'll think this is funny. And they don't know that.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
They know they can't do that.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
They tried it, they can't do that.

Speaker 6 (37:53):
They're not Zach. You will get your ass. Please keep
the way.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, so I get it though, But I mean y'all,
y'all would do that to y'all family. I just like,
for me, I kind of I step back us again.
I know I'll take it too far.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Yeah, I'm back.

Speaker 6 (38:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (38:18):
I cannot.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
I let you get like one or two in. But
if you keep and I know your situation, that's insane.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
Girl.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Why would you keep playing with me?

Speaker 6 (38:28):
And you know my math is slick.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
I be trying.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
You know, I'm big on respect. But there's a way too,
there's a way to shut shut it down respectfully, so
you know, not to play like let me tap your
hand before we get too hot over here, you know.
So it's just like that type of stuff. And I
want to and I'm always conscious. I try to be conscious,
like as I get older, when my nieces and nephews

(38:51):
or family members like because I was real bad, I
was giving my unsolicited advice real bad, like my brothers.

Speaker 6 (38:57):
Now I'll be telling them what they need to do,
who they needed.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
I stop doing that because don't nobody want to be
around a person who do that. You know what I'm saying,
They see you coming, like, here's she come? I always
got something to say. Nope, just shut up, Just shut up.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Sometimes yeah, I'll say nothing to my family about unless
they ask me. They asked me some stuff or I
do like to take because I do, see y'all.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
I'm like, you know I might.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
I'm the self improvement guy, like I was like, yo,
if I see something that I can help you with.
I feel like they help you make a play, like hey,
you like doing this, Hey, my man know this? You
should probably get with them. And that's my thing.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
I like to try to put people on the play
to make some more money to better themselves. So especially
like if you do somebody your family member, like they
up and down the jobs, blah blah blah blah, Like well, man,
you should try this, to try that.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Yeah, but if you you know, asking why you ain't
married and you on your third husband, like girl, one
of us needs to stop getting married, you know, like
it's like little stuff like that, like you got to
assess your own situation before you try to talk. I
would never pull up to the family and be like,
why you gain a weight girl?

Speaker 1 (40:01):
You know, Like.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Girl, I would never do no mess like that, man,
And that's what family members do.

Speaker 6 (40:11):
Sometime you'd be like, grand.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Do you see you you're asking me?

Speaker 6 (40:16):
So it's just like you gotta be careful, man.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
I remember when my uncle was that a Thanksgiving asked
me why I was transferring to school so much, got
a little chuckle out of everybody, like you ain't gonna never,
You're gonna be thirty years old by the time you
get out of college. I was like, I ain't I
had and now I'm I'm nineteen. I am ready to

(40:40):
I was like I've never and I was about to
let it go.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
God rest my Grandma's soul. She must have saw the
face coming over. She looked at me, she was like,
all right, hey, I was it was. I would never
forget that moment. And I said, and I told her,
I said, Grandma, if anybody play with me like that again,
I'm going crazy and I'm gonna ruin. I'm gonna say

(41:05):
I'm going to ruin the dinner because I know I'm
going ruin. I was because I was, you know, you
at that age when you could cuss around your family
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
I was about to be like, man, you can shut
yourm up. It was about to be wild.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
Larry.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
You are cashier. Damn all right, okay, damn you're sixty
in cash.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
I don't think you need to be giving careers like
you're a teacher, my nigg you not at.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
The teachers teachers, but you don't talk to me about
like like you out here, big William.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Let me finish this with me.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
And you see that happened when you was at nineteen.
You when you're making them comments to your family, they
never forget, especially young people.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
You never forget.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
You never forget that. I held that I'm whatever age
and I've never forgotten, never forget. Yeah, I never When
I graduated across the stage, I remember thinking about that, like, yeah,
what do we think now?

Speaker 1 (42:03):
I got these papers in my hand?

Speaker 5 (42:04):
That's tough. I think you should encourage. I try to
encourage my little you know, like I try to give.
I do give a lot of unsolicited advice that they
probably don't like, but it's usually like uplifted stuff. Yeah,
like what you want to do and then they was
like tell me about Oh that's cool, or like I
try to like tell them they can Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Gonna push it. And that's what I learned.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
There's some people that like to get to a point
and stop whatever that comfortable, comfortable point is, and that's
nothing wrong with that. I'm a person that, like I said,
I treat my life like a video game. I get
to that point and I'm like, all right, what we're
about to do?

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Next level? We on?

Speaker 5 (42:38):
What's the next level? How do I get to that
next level? Because I know it's one. Where's the next level?

Speaker 4 (42:43):
So?

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Yeah, you know I get you on that. When you
say you don't want to be the person that's always
telling people something. M yeah, you don't want to do that.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Oh, let's see what we got here, we got something
from twenty one Savage.

Speaker 7 (42:58):
I talked that do anyway, but he felt like he
was being challenged lyrically, so he wanted to respond, and
people people chose who they You know what I told Drake,
I think this was after the first song, the song
with Metro them. I said, you're finish going to a
battle that you can't win no matter what brouh certain situations.

(43:21):
Even if you win, you still don't win like people
say like, oh, Kendrick won. Kendrick a good ass rapper,
though you get what I'm saying, And some of his
songs was hard. God damn Drake. Like Drake's songs too,
But I feel like the only difference is when you're
at the top, when you're the number one, where does
winning put you? You can't go like number one point win,

(43:42):
so how could you win? Anyway? That's what I told him.

Speaker 5 (43:46):
I disagree with that, Okay, I disagree with it. Why
because I think what is one?

Speaker 2 (43:53):
I get what he was saying, like the battling and
and I can understand that, but for Drake being challenge,
Drake really had no choice.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
He had to go. He had to do it.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
You're the number one guy, and you're as the number
one guy, you got to say, I'm going to destroy you,
so nobody else ever ever does it again. Same way
with Meek Mill tried to challenge him, letting out reference tracks,
doing all of that, and Drake destroyed me, so me
couldn't nobody. Well, Kendrick like, all right, here's my chance

(44:27):
at the champ, here's my chance.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
I'm better than all y'all, I know it.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Drake being the champ, got to say, all you think
you better than me, let's go. It didn't work out
for Drake and that's it. And to me, it's okay.
It's okay. We saw Knives and jay Z do what
we've seen Biggie and Pop do it. Losing is okay
because at the end of the day, when you are

(44:51):
That's the part I didn't respect from the other people
that were taking shots to Drake as well.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
It is that when you lose.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
To Drake, Drake's still better than you, even like well,
the people that was taking shots at Drake, that taking
shots to Drake on the back of Kendrick's win, that
ain't that ain't what it is. The only two people
that can say they beat Drake is pushing in Kendrick
and that's it.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
That ain't bad.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
But for everybody else that was trying to take shots
at him, I felt like it was a little weak.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
But I definitely think Drake did what he's supposed to do.
He got challenged and he he just lost.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
It's fine.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
I don't know, though, I think sometimes you don't have
to accept every fight, like you ain't got to accept
every invite to every battle, because when you are number one,
everybody shooting at the at the stars, everybody gonna shoot up.

Speaker 6 (45:37):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Everybody gotta take shots up. What you put yourself in
a vulnerable spot when you shoot back down. If imagine
what would have happened if Drake just ignored that. Look
that love lying on after Big three is just big me.
What if he just would ignore that none we wouldn't
have not like us, probably we wouldn't have all the
stuff that he'd been through if he had it, just

(45:58):
ignored that you already number one?

Speaker 6 (46:00):
What you argue with Kendrick Lamar for I.

Speaker 5 (46:02):
Got that, But we can't act like Kendrick wasn't a
formaal opponent.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Kendrick is like in the same. You know, it ain't
reaching down. It's like a.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Little like you know what I'm saying, Like he ain't
shooting down. Kendrick was right here as one of the
conversation of the generation was Kendrick Cole drink it was.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
That was the conversation.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
Kendrick took up on hisself to say, fuck all that
come by y'all stuff. I'm better than all y'all get
cold bowed out. He said, I'm cool. I don't want
that smoke exactly, which was seemed like the right move.
But hindsight, I think it is smart. But in the moment,
you know what I'm saying, nobody knew. I don't even

(46:45):
think Kendrick knew that, not like us the biggest gun.
I mean the I'll say it now. It's it's proven.
The greatest disc record of all time was coming.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Stop that what not?

Speaker 5 (46:57):
Like that's not the greatest dis record of all time.
The greatest disc record of all time was coming. Well,
that's that's debatable, but I think that's another conversation. The
greatest I wouldn't know who you. Nobody knew that is coming.
The greatest, the greatest, the greatest, No hit him up
Hit him up is the best.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
It is nothing. It's nothing. Hit him up. It's better
because of the heighten of the situation.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
No, because he actually was saying their names.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
He wasn't. It was no reference in ye it was
it was.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
I still just like I was, just like it better. Okay,
I'm gonna tell you what. I'm gonna tell you why
it's not better. I'm gonna tell you why I give
Kendrick kids. Kendrick said, he was direct.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
It was quotable. Three verses of quotable.

Speaker 5 (47:47):
Hit them up is one verse and then them dudes
come on and we don't know them. Always do this
up because them dudes come ont. Gave you one verse
and then them dudes came on. Kendrick gave you a hook.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
It was. That's the greatest. I take it. You just
on the strip of the quotables. I got it because
that's kind of.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
How I always say, if you got a lot of
singable lines in your joint, that's a lot.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Bro. He put out a perfect song. He did. It
ain't too many perfect songs.

Speaker 5 (48:23):
I can only name two, two off the top of
my head that not like Us and no Hands.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Those the only two perfect songs. I can think of
on the top of my head. Yeah, they didn't let
that slide.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
No Hands is a perfect song. No hands is perfect song.
We went from this record to talk about no hand.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
Perfect that I can think of right now, it's now
hands is your perfect song. No Hands is a perfect song,
a perfect Let me give you all my perfect I
don't let me give you my perfect criteria this week.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
No Hands of God why it was a wild hand.
It was a perfect record.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
So a perfect record consists of a hook that everybody sings.
It's it's bumping from the very beginning, and you can sing,
you can sing every you can quote every word of
every verse, and you can't tell me no hands. Ain't
that from Floka to Roscoe to Lee it's a perfect record.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
It is. It's the beat. It's a perfect Why was
you thinking of that?

Speaker 4 (49:25):
Like?

Speaker 6 (49:25):
That's what?

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Those only two perfect songs that I remember.

Speaker 6 (49:31):
Hip Like? Why? Like I don't know, Zack, I don't
know that was.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Listen to this track? You know exactly what I want
to let you know. When you said the two perfect
songs you ever.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
Heard in hip hop that I can remember, you remember
and you said not like us and no Hand, No hands.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
That's we said, be y'all are in y'all bag this week.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
I don't know what's going on, but I get what
Zach was saying, but I that was my point too,
of like if you, if I'm if I'm Drake and
I'm looking at Kendrick is taking a shot where I'm
at right now, is it really worth me putting it
all on the wrist, like risking it all to go
with Kendrick because you look, he look at them other
people like, no that she stayed with Meek Meal.

Speaker 6 (50:21):
That's easy for Drake.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
You know what I'm saying, Yes, I can whoop your
ass and make it and have fun doing it. But
looking at somebody of Kendrick's stature, I would have been like,
because if I.

Speaker 6 (50:31):
If one wrong with this gold Woman, if this gonna
go my way, he could end up at the super
Bowl kicking.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
He was fighting.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
He was in the fight until until not like us,
he was in the fight.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
But he really was, he those say because when when
he did it, it opened up the floodgates of everybody
who had a problem with Drake. And I think Drake
didn't realize that piece, Like he didn't expect that he
thought he was gonna go spar with Kendrick. But you
got all these other people that came out, the Woodworth,
the Ya's, the Rosses, the I mean, it was just
a pal on. And if I was Drake, I mean,

(51:00):
I'm sure he probably think this now, but maybe, like
I don't think it was worth me giving Kendrick that
I could have just ignored the line and put out
another hit and we would have moved on. But now
he's at the super Bowl. When I'm beefing with Meek Mill,
I know he ain't gonna end up at the super Bowl.
So it ain't no you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
It's just a thing. Yeah, I get what you're saying.
But so I agree with twenty one. I think I
think he had to do it. He had to do it.
He had to do it. He had a lot of
great records.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
But you know, but you know, Kendrick can rap, but
you ain't know he had. You saw what push it did?

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Yeah, push it? You know him lyrically, lyrically deaf.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
My thing is, though, think about it, though, if I'm Drake,
I saw what push It did to me lyrically. Now
imagine if I found somebody just as good as if
I'm beefing with somebody, just as good as pushing and
got a machine behind them.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
That's a dangerous place. That's a day.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
To be honest.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
And let's just look at Kendrick's body of work, right,
we look at his body of work. And I'm not
saying he doesn't have these type of records.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
He doesn't. He has like one or two in an album.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Right, So if I look at Kendrick's body of work,
I think, Okay, what Kendrick's gonna do is basically what
push you're gonna do?

Speaker 1 (52:16):
He gonna beat me up. We're gonna be in there
spar and lyrically.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Nobody thought Kendrick Lamar had a not like us.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Nobody thought it.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
And then turn around, and remember we said it on
the pot, I said, if he makes not like us
and he comes with the normal Kendrick album, when we
get like one record, two records, he turned around and
gave us a whole, perfect album.

Speaker 5 (52:41):
He got He didn't know that he was gonna find
his whole Kendrick found his groove on Yes, know that.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
We wouldn't know.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
But to twenty one's point, you are already number one
and it's just a lesson because every everybody got eyesight
hindsight twenty twenty out. We could say he should have
did it, should have done that. But the lesson in
this is when you are already number one and you
are already the big dog, every battle ain't worth it.
And if they look like they could possibly swing knock

(53:13):
you out, maybe don't even engage because you still number
one no matter how many times they shoot you.

Speaker 6 (53:19):
He STI would have been number one.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
I want to let you know.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yes to most people to rap heads, they think Nas
beat jay Z because because of ether that is for
most rap heads. People like Jay lost that. Jay lost that.
But the way jay Z handled the L was different,
was different than the way.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
Everybody.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Everybody was challenging Jay every time and he hit you
with a bar, shut you up, you say something, hit
you with a bar, shut you up. To the point
where they were talking about Lil Wayne and he would
hit you with something. D Wayne's better than you hit
you with a little something. Shut you up. So when
you're in that number one spot, I just think you
have to do it.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
You have to do it.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
But it's always about how you handle the L. Everybody's
gonna lose. It's about how.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
You l Yeah, but he also people, but guess what
Now's biggest record was not Ether. It was a Ether's
amazing this record, but he didn't have his best record
off of off.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Of this strick. Nobody could see.

Speaker 5 (54:27):
It's almost like, I don't think Kendrick could do that
again if you want, like you know how you No,
he definitely could know what I'm saying some certain stuff.
Everything has to line up to be that perfect.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
I'm not. This is no dis to Kendrick, but I.

Speaker 5 (54:39):
Just feel like it lined up so perfectly that this
was damn their faith, Like dude for that song. I
remember when I first heard it and I ran.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
I was in the car.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
I stopped and I heard it and I ran, listen
to it again. I said, it's over. It's it's nothing, Drake.
I knew that Drake doesn't have a song that can
beat this because this this song is amazing. It was quotable.
A marching band can play it. You can wrap all
three verses. He's direct. It's like it was commercial yet

(55:14):
it was streak yet it was thought provoking. You can't
do it. It's almost like when you okay, like sports reference.
You don't like Steph is hitting about to get twenty three.
Let's say Steph on fire, he hit twenty three, he
has the record for three pointers. If he has the
record for three pointers one game, he hit thirty three's
in the game. Nobody's ever done that before, right, Yes,

(55:36):
Steph is probably one of the best shooters ever.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
You'd be like, you gotta guard stuff.

Speaker 5 (55:39):
Yeah, I know you got a guard STEFP, but you
don't know he getting ready to hit every damn thing
that he was in his zone. And he put out
a perfect record on Drake, and Drake ain't recovered.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
But two years also after you take the all, it's
about how you handle it. And I think that that,
but y'all turned your back on them. I turn my back.
Maybe I took that over your chain off the moment
I heard not like us and put my.

Speaker 6 (56:05):
T t a TD had on. So I ain't gonna lie,
you know.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
But uh I showed her.

Speaker 6 (56:15):
I sure turned my back on.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Listen to this. We gotta do this real quick.

Speaker 6 (56:22):
Yeah, let me croaker, And you would not believe audacity.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Some people have me and my husband ain't.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
The shopping And this woman is with another woman and
She's like, sir, excuse me, sir.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Can you reach this off the top shelf for me?
We're sure?

Speaker 6 (56:37):
I look at them, I look at him, he look
at me, he said food.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
The fact that he knew he needed permission how.

Speaker 5 (56:44):
To help these people, in the fact that they thought
they could just ask him and he was gonna move
for them.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
So audacity. I'm confused.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
So what happened was a woman was shopping with her husband, Yes,
and they were in the aisle, and then two other
ladies asked her husband, Hey, sir, could you help us
grab that from that at the top and said before
he did it, he turned and looked at looked at
his wife, like is that cool? And she said she
basically said, them women thought they were gonna get my

(57:17):
husband to move before he got checked with me. The
audacity of them thinking they could ask my husband for help.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
I get I get it now, Okay, I mean that
that's a coin flip.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Flex, Yeah, it's a coin flip.

Speaker 6 (57:33):
I want to be scared, disrespectful.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
I don't know would you be scared? Would you? Would you?
You got to look at your wife before you help them.
I'm not at that height.

Speaker 5 (57:42):
You not if another woman in the grocery show. Why
you didn't hear me. I'm not at that height for
anybody to call me to reach up and grab I
am not. I have never never in my life has
anybody asked me to reach a goddamn thing.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Never in my life. If I've been walking, it was
like that, can you reach that?

Speaker 5 (58:08):
The only time that has happened is in my house
when I'm the tallest person there. Okay, I'm just not
going to be your go to if you're at the
grocery store, you might go through that. That's funny, I have.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Yeah, you've done it. You got to deal with that.
Them ladies my heart. That's so funny.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
That is funny though her back, that's funny. But yeah,
I definitely. If I was with my wife and another
woman asked me to grab.

Speaker 6 (58:30):
Something, I was like, do you look like you want
her to be like it's okay.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Yet next thing? And when she says SI, right, no.

Speaker 6 (58:43):
No, and I don't even want I don't even want
him to listen.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
To an example of what you just said about Drake,
is it worthless? That is me going to reach and
help that lady out? Worth the possibility of arguments Later on, like, damn,
why would you just go help a woman? You just
said any woman asks you to do something?

Speaker 5 (59:07):
Sorry for being a gentleman. Somebody asked me to you're
standing right there. I can see I'm by myself. One here, girl,
I got you, I.

Speaker 6 (59:15):
Got you help him behind my back.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
I want you to.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
I've rather you help him in my face because now
you're sneaky. Why are you want to throw around a line?

Speaker 1 (59:23):
I'm just so you're supposed to do the same thing
either way. Tom want to ask?

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Tom want permission because he's sneaky and he don't want
He know what he's thinking when a woman asks him
for some help. He thinking like I handed you this,
Now what you're gonna have me? And that's why you
feel like he needs permission. Any regular man with an
honest intentions, then a lady thing ain't thought twice about it?

Speaker 1 (59:48):
My help, come with shrinks? Yeah, see, because.

Speaker 6 (59:50):
If my man looked back to him, come helping him?

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Lady? What you looking at me for?

Speaker 3 (59:54):
But now that I know you're gonna help her when
I ain't around? Yeah, we got a problem. So yeah, yeah,
what we got right, We're gonna have to go.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
We're gonna have to just do a h we gotta
do a lifestyle pod.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
We're gonna have to do after the pod and they.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Do the shout out to one of the podcasts, they
send me a long message. She said, I wish I
knew my name. But she said she wants to see
more behind the scenes stuff from us while we're on break.
She says it's gonna be very hard for her to
be without us when we're on holiday break, so she
would like and would request some stuff from behind the scenes.

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
So we got you, Yes, we got what scene she
wants to be behind she likes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
She want to see some stuff what.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
She want to see because it depends baby, that might
cover a subscription.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
We want to see to pay to ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Yeah, any any besides that letter from the pod?

Speaker 6 (01:00:48):
Oh comments, Yes, okay, let's see.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Well she's excited today yesterday to.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Get I'm really trying to fix myself. I want to
be nicer, not earlier. I want to like sports. I
want to I want to agree with fathers.

Speaker 6 (01:01:09):
You know what I'm saying, Like, I don't want to.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Change, I want to be better. So today, tell me
yesterday get my acts together. When I read the comment,
I'm working out that I'm gonna work in progress. So
today this said, HM, morning pot Fam. I'll see now
we didn't shouted you out too much. Okay, morning Potfam.

(01:01:33):
Thank you for the shoutout last episode. I've been rocking
with you guys since the beginning, and I'm so proud
of my Shottown cousins and all the success you have
and will come to gain. Love you guys, keep going
for the culture and beyond. That is from j N
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She say yes, I'm tuned in. No, I'm turned up

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and tuned in all the way from Bermuda baby, So
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Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
Yes, sneak of queen.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Now, I usually agree with most of what Kiki be saying,
but this is wowd Tiger wrapping circles around the game
is why girl?

Speaker 6 (01:02:16):
Are you okay? Kiki?

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
On one, I'm sorry for I'm standing by Tiger. And
then let me see toxic tone said you ain't never
heard nobody try to kill you like that's a normal experience.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
I'm laughing, but I know what you mean.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Big dog.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Oh god, this is so funny. I mean, they just
they going crazy in the comments. So shout out to
the podcast from the latest episode. That is, from the
latest episode, Hammer J Kiki don't tweak often often, but
Tiger over Game is top five worst takes in pod history.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
You ain't wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
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So turn the notifications on on your YouTube and your
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Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
There you go there, All right, y'all you I know
what it is. We'll be back tomorrow or what more?
And what more can I say? What more can we say?