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April 29, 2025 35 mins

Hour 2 of A&G features...

  • Russia/Ukraine war continues & Trump is pissed at Putin
  • 100 unarmed men against a gorilla
  • UPS slashing jobs & Trump answers a cold call
  • The morning routine! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the
George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Getty and he.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Armstrong and Yetty. Wow.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Dude posted that on Facebook. That's what drone missiles sound like.
This guy in his apartment in Ukraine, that's what Russian
drone missiles sound like. Can you imagine living like that?
We can't as Americans. No, just the idea that, yeah,
a own missile, whatever that is. I don't know what

(01:02):
that means. Do you know what that means? I mean
missiles are unmanned anyway, So well, right, you know, it's funny.
I was thinking that very thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
I just I think they're delivered by drone anyway, most
of their own engines. Yeh.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Can you just imagine living somewhere where you hear the
hum of drones and think, okay, here comes attack, and
you've grown used to the fact that there are going
to be some explosions and you hope it's not you. Yeah,
just insane that that can happen. But it's always been
the world and always will be the world. Here's a

(01:36):
little report on where we are on that, and we'll
fill in some more holes.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Ukrainian President Voloni Verzelinski got fifteen minutes with President Trump
this weekend at the Vatican ahead of Pope Francis's funeral,
and Trump now appears to be losing patience with Russian
President Vladimir Putin.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
I was very disappointed that missiles were flying bye Russia,
but that missiles were flying very disappointing.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
As the Trump have been a tries negotiating an end
to the war in Ukraine, Russia continues attacking Ukrainian civilians.
This weekend, President Trump wrote quote, it makes me think
that maybe he doesn't want to stop the war, He's
just tapping me along. Then Trump floated additional sanctions on Russia.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Right, and so then Putin floats this whole three day
ceasefire thing for their victory Day celebrations. Zelenski says that
there are still Russian missile attacks happening in Kiev and
that Moscow has no interest in piece whatsoever, which is
probably true. It's worked for Putin over and over again

(02:40):
throughout well quite a few years now, where he claims
he's going to stop or a ceasefire, and he just
keeps firing missiles and the idiotic media or various European
countries jump at it, and then you got this Putin
and North Korea confirming for the first time yesterday that
North Korean forces are fighting with Russia in its invasion

(03:00):
in Ukraine. We already knew that, but now it's been
admitted by Russia. Earlier in the day, Kim Jong un
announced the construction of a monument honoring the North Korean
soldiers that have been killed in the Russia Ukraine war. Okay,
great wow. That was shortly after Putin thanked North Korean
soldiers for their heroism and fighting alongside Russian forces against Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
This is all because of the threat Ukraine poses, of course,
to North Korea. Weren't anyone, They don't pose a threat
to anyone, No, on any level. South Korean officials say
there are about twelve thousand North Korean troops there deployed
to the Kursk region. I remember at one point somebody saying,

(03:48):
if North Korean soldiers are actually involved in the fighting
and not just doing support, that would be crossing some
sort of red line. Well that was crossed a long
time ago, and now everybody admits that on all sides,
and nothing changes, right, this is interesting just as a
complete aside, I just rebooted my iPhone for instance, reasons

(04:09):
that are not at least been interesting. And now I'm
getting power spammed by one account. I've gotten eight messages
in the last thirty seconds. I hope this is not
somehow dangerous anyway, Moving along back to yeah, I'm under
attack from whatever the hell list is. So a couple
of thoughts on the Ukraine situation, a couple of correspondents,

(04:30):
and then an interesting perspective something else that's happening Russia wise.
But Paolo points out militarily, the only way Ukraine could
win the war with Russia was with enough US support.
Didn't want to do that for fear of escalation. Judge
that giving them enough support to win is too risky,
not in our best interests. Hard to accept, but apparently
that's the case. Given that reality, continuing support them as

(04:52):
we have will eventually end with They're losing their entire
country plus a lot more lives. If we're not willing
to do what's necessary for them to win. The best
we can do is help them to minimize their losses.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Easier for us to say than for them.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yes, yeah, well, this is what I was talking about yesterday.
Convincing Ukraine to come to the table is harder than
Russia because Ukraine wants to fight to the death to
protect their homeland. So that's why Trump is being harder
on Zelensky. And I'm not saying that's right or I'm

(05:26):
arguing in favor of it, but that's the case I
think right.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
For some reason, this popped into my head. I watched
the movie Rocky with my son the other day. If
you remember the original movie Rocky, toward the end, he's
getting the but Jesus beaten out of them. They both
are anyway, he says to his trainer, Mickey says, you've
stopped this fight, and I'll kill you.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
He still wanted to fight, no matter how beat up
he was. And that's where Ukraine is right now there.
You stop this fight and they'll kill you. They just
want give us more stuff and we'll keep fighting.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
We as you know, sovereign nation and taxpayers to decide
whether we want to arm them or not. I think
it's a good idea, So you don't.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Matt points out, he well, he says, now I preface this.
I'm an armchair foreign policy observer if even that. Although
you know, Matt, if you're a man of logic and
reasonable intelligence, most foreign policy does come down to fairly
simple motivations, so you know, feel free to weigh in.
As much as the deal Trump proposed to Russian Ukraine

(06:29):
makes no sense to me in terms not only of
fairness but even the optics, I feel like the administration
has two things in mind. One thing is that it
may be a matter of attempting to soothe the beast
to not go for total conquest. Back to Powlow's point,
and that's if he honors the agreements and doesn't decide
to continue.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
That's a huge if with Putin.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
As much as I don't like it and don't agree
with how he's handling it, I think Trump wants to
avoid further military and monetary involvement in this war. And
then he gets to his bigger point. I think Trump
is away of what may be on the horizon with
China and would rather save his capital for what may
come from that.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Maybe that's why the tariffs too.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
He wants to begin the steps to bring manufacturing back
so he can be ready for you know, when the
great to severing with China.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Occurs.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Just to summarize his thoughts, I would if there is
a whole of administration understanding that conflict with China, be
it merely diplomatic and economic or maybe trade and ordinance
or whatever it is, that is the one thing we
must be ready for. What are lesser priorities that are

(07:39):
detracting from our ability to get ready for China?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, here is the list. As listening to some really
smart people talk about Trump's foreign policy vision and you know,
whether he has one or not, or a worldview or not,
and they seem to settle on this, and this makes
sense to me. I don't know that it's a good idea,
but this makes sense to me that this is the

(08:04):
way he sees the world.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Look, Taiwan is right next to China. Of course, China
is gonna take Taiwan. Ukraine's next to Russia, and they
want it more than the rest of the world wants
to stop them. Of course they're gonna take it. Canada
should be ours, Greenland should be ours. That's the way
he sees the world. And kind of an old timey
just like theirpower spheres of influence, since they say in

(08:29):
the business, Yeah, just very on the ground reality sort
of way. Yeah, yeah, and that might be the way
he looks at it.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
It seems to be, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
I would love to know what he said in that
private meeting with Zelenski the other day as we were discussing.
And then finally this I found very very interesting, Thomas
Grove writing in the Journal. With President Trump and many
other world leaders preoccupied with war in Ukraine, Europeans are
growing alarmed about what the Russian army has been doing
much more quietly along other stretches of its borders with Europe,
someone hundred miles east of its border with Finland in

(09:04):
the Russian city of Unpronounceable, military engineers are expanding army
bases where the Kremlin plans to put a new army
headquarters to oversee tens of thousands of troops over the
next several years. Those soldiers, many now serving on the
front lines in Ukraine, are intended to be the backbone
of a Russian military preparing to face off with NATO.

(09:25):
According to Western military and intelligence officials, You.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Think Premlin actually believes NATO would preemptively attack him, I mean,
because that's what a lot of you say. Ukraine started
this war talk of being in NATO when we put
NATO right on their doorstep and that blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Putn't think NATO is going to attack him, an, I
think you know more about this than I do. But
I know that through the years, through the centuries, there
has been a certain paranoia that's run through Russian defense
and just their leadership because they don't have natural barriers

(10:05):
to invasion, right, But in the modern world, NATO's never
going to it just preemptively invade Russia. No, it doesn't
matter whether that's true or not. If he believes it's true,
I guess I wouldn't think so. So they get into
the way, I'm sorry, into the fact that Finland has
joined NATO, and there are a couple more examples, but yeah,

(10:26):
the Russians are definitely projecting some of their power toward
Europe in a defensive slash saber rattling way, which has
the Euros somewhat on edge.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
There you go, freaking those You know, the saddest people
on earth might be those poor North Korean soldiers. You
got the miserable life back home in your country with
your family starving, and to try to help them out
in some way, or because you got a gun at
pointed at your head. More or less there you are
in Russia. You probably don't even couldn't even put it
on a map. You had no schooling. The slightest idea

(11:05):
where you are what you're doing, dying for for Putin
and whatever he's it's good lord. So maybe your family
gets a few shekels. So when you get killed back home? Yeah,
just miserable miserable existence. Yuck. You know see what this.
Here's a tip for you, young listener. What's that, Mike Jack.
I'll do my teas after you say this. Okay, ah,

(11:27):
what was I gonna say? Eh?

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Oh, for you young folks, it is possible there will be
another period of peace and prosperity on the war in
the world won't last long, but we would urge you
when that moment comes to remember our wise old words
and say to yourself, Wow, this is weird and great.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
It's like spring vacation. It's not gonna last.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, based on my reading and history, it could be
like two hundred years.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Before that happens again. Before it's like you know, the nineties.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Well, eat your sorghum and avoid saturated fats if you
want to live that long. I find myself wondering what
the answer to the age old question is if you
pitted one hundred unarmed men against a single eight hundred
pound lowland gorilla, who would win?

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Right?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
I'm glad according the answer according to science and artificial intelligence.
Oh okay, among other things we got on the wails.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Stay here? Can AI answer all questions? Can you just
plug in? Could twelve third grade girls take on a beaver?

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Or?

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I mean, there are all kinds of AI questions we
can answer.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Now. What was the uh?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Would you rather have a horse sized duck or one
hundred duck sized horses?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Something like that? Yeah? I always went to duck sized
horses because I think they just be cutere neck. Oh
my gosh, it'd be amazing.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
You could You could have like tourism constantly coming to
your tiny little horse farm. Speaking of little girls, were
charge of anything you wanted?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Where is a horse sized duck?

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Would have you soil in your pants?

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Put the duck back? Please?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
The thing decided to pack you? Could you know, remove
your head? Speaking of which, this guy Mark, what's his name?
He's a software and AI guy and he likes to
pose various questions to AI and parse out the information,
and one of his questions has gone slightly viral. Apparently

(13:35):
there's a wild debate blowing up online. He says, can
one hundred unarmed men defeat a single gorilla in a fight,
and he breaks it down step by step. First, let's
take a look at the combatants, starting with the gorilla.
These beasts are insanely strong. A silver back that's you're big,

(13:56):
mature like lowland gorilla, and they range from six to
like eight hundred pounds that proverbial eight.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Hundred pound gorilla. They can lift.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Now, this guy's a brit So he uses a kilograms,
but a silverback can lift up to seventeen hundred pounds
seventeen one hundred pounds.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Almost a ton. That's amazing. Run it twenty five miles
per hour. Wow, and.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Has a bite force of thirteen hundred pounds per square inch,
enough to crush bones.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
I have a feeling I'm going to quibble with the
result of this, but yeah, go on, quibble away. That's
what we're doing here.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
One swing of its arm could kill a man instantly.
So the whole clothes line A giant silverback gorilla clotheslines you.
It could kill you. I'm sever of your spine, traumatic
brain injury.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Gorillas are also agile and tough. They can charge fast,
dodge attacks, and they're thick skulls and bones make them
very hard to injure. They're built for combat in a
way that humans simply aren't.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
I believe all of this.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Keep in mind, Jack, that the life of the average
male gorilla is gonna include a handful of fights, if
not to the death to one guy saying I've had enough,
I've had enough. You can mate with her. I'm going
I'm leaving. I'm heading off into the jungle. You can
have her.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I don't want her.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Now, let's handicap the humans. You'll be sicker for soon enough.
With one hundred men, they have sheer numbers. Clearly, if
they swarm the gorilla all at once, they might restrain it,
but it's risky. Many would get seriously hurt or killed
in the process.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, that's where I'm gonna quibble. After you get through this.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Now, we the humans have intelligence and endurance. We can
plan strategies like distracting the gorilla while others attack from behind,
might even wear it down over time. But it's not
easy and without deppens, it's brutal. Humans lack natural defenses,
we're soft. Speaking for myself, the gorilla could break bones,
are killed with a single blow. Coordination of the human

(16:10):
team absolutely critical. Any mistakes and it's chaos. By the way,
we'll post the link to this Twitter thread because it
includes AI generated videos.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Oh yes, not the violent part. I'm sorry. Good. Yeah,
you're sticking of.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Thirty eight.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
So you got a picture of the fight. The gorilla
charges and scatters the group. The first few men to
engage would likely die fast. The rest would need to
swarm and pylon without hesitation to have a shot. Even
if they pin the gorilla, killing it unarmed is tough.
They'd have to suffocate it or cause massive trauma, which
could take time and lead to more casualties.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
It would be a grim struggle, to say the least. Jack. Yeah,
I wouldn't want to see it because obviously the animal
doesn't have a vote and whether or not it wants
to participate in this willa.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Seeing the gorilla's consentant and actually the guy points out,
this is not a fight anyone would want to see.
So could one hundred men do it? Possibly? But with
heavy losses. It's a meaningless victory at best. The gorillas
of powerhouse humans outmatched without weapons, the costs staggering.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Wow, AI continues to benefit us all with things like this.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Armstrong and Getty ups to slash twenty thousand jobs on
weak Amazon deliveries over the Trump tariff thing.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Because you know, practically everything you ordered through Amazon comes
through UPS, and they're delivering on less packages. I guess
there are that many fewer packages already. UPS slashing twenty
thousand jobs. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, YOUPS had severed their relationship with Amazon. I remember
reading that a while back. Interestingly enough, we mentioned earlier
that Amazon is going to show a tariff fee. Essentially,
how much of this price is the tariffs on your
transactions coming out of what soonish? The White House slamed

(18:03):
Amazon's reported plan. This is a hostile and political act
by Amazon, said White House spokeslady Caroline Levitt.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Political political obviously, and they have, you know, every right
to be not in favor of the tariffs and how
it affects their businesses. Hostile. I don't know if it's hospital.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Well, just to go on quoting Caroline Levitt, because it's interesting,
why did Amazon do this when the Biden administration hiked
inflation to the highest level in four years. It's not
really a surprise because Amazon has partnered with a Chinese
propaganda arm. Oh shoot, Trump v Bezos. Now, I wouldn't
mind if this caught on. Of course, there'd be all

(18:51):
kinds of fact checking that would have to occur.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
But I wish more gas stations in California would have
a sign that says this five dollars and ten cent
gallon gas. You're paying for eighty cents of it? Is this,
sixty cents of it? Is this? Blah blah blah blah blah.
I would love that, you know, or yeah, it should
I happen during inflation. This costs this much more because

(19:16):
of the Inflation Reduction Act. Now, we did have the
pictures of a goofy looking Biden pointing at the price
and saying I did this, which essentially the same thing. Right,
that was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
How is that not happened in cal Unicornia with a
Gavin Newsom's face next to gas pumps.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
I'm kind of surprised. I don't know. I loved that
period of time though, when you go around and have
the smiling Biden. Let's come Brandon good time. I wanted
to get this on before we get further into the
one hundred days of Donald Trump. So this is a
person Trump did an interview with the Atlantic, including Jeffrey Goldberg,

(19:55):
because Trump's that kind of guy. AnyWho, Maybe we'll get
to that a little bit later. Here's one of the
Atlantic journalists cold calling Trump on his own cell phone.
I don't know how he had Trump's number, but this
is how it went.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Right.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
This is Michael Hello, this is President Trump.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
There.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
This is Michael Sheer. I'm a reporter for the Atlantic.
You wrote, oh, I know who you are. Michael, I
know who you are.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
I never write you never write good about me, Michael,
you never ever wow.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
So so Trump like old people, I guess, answers the
phone for random numbers without somebody texting first. Those of
us who are younger, we will not take a phone
call unless you have warned us for a long time
ahead of time, when we know exactly who it is,
because it's so scary to answer the phone, I guess
or something I don't know. Short of spouse and best friend, Yes,

(20:51):
we all now react with why are they calling me? Oh?

Speaker 2 (20:55):
My god, what is this? Trump still edges the bone?
Who is it? I know who you are? You never
say anything nice about me? Wow?

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Wow, So we have to Oh, you know what, you
got to do your your quibble about the gorilla.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Versus the Fellas thing we're discussed.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I'm gonna throw that one hundred unarmed men best an
eight hundred pound.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Gorilla in a fight. How about I throw that into
the One More Thing podcast that we do every day
after the show you can tune in look forward to
wherever you get your podcasts. The more I think about
that idea, the more I like it.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yes, yes, we do an additional segment that never airs
on the radio, and therefore sometimes there are swears. So
if you're excited by that prospect, Oh, that reminds me.
There's a great piece. A couple of folks have commented
on this, the Democrats new strategy of swearing a lot. Yeah,
we're all going to start swearing at the same time

(21:52):
to prove how authentic and like regular people we are
ready begin and reflect your anger right exactly, and it's
just it's pathetic. So we have declared aloud and repeatedly
that the first one hundred days and there's generally theme music.

(22:13):
The first one days of the Trump administration is a
completely silly and arbitrary measuring stick.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
It is the pseudo. It is a pseudo event is
created by the media and then the report on it
like it's not something they invented.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Right, It's like Black Friday, which never was what it
claimed to be.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Ever, it's entirely made up. Anyway.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Having conceded that, it is a decent enough chance to
look at some of the pros and cons and ups
and downs. Kim Strasse a little Wall Street Journal, one
of our favorite writers, very reasonable woman. She says, when
Trump is right, he's right, and vicey versy. And she
points out that the opening two months of the administration,
we're mold breaking, the policy equivalent of shock and awe.

(23:04):
And now it has slowed somewhat definitely.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
And is a little more mixed as the.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Many many court battles which the administration had mostly intentionally provoked,
are working their way through the system. You've got a
little strm and drawing at the Pentagon, although that seems
to have died down. The one point she makes that
I think is pretty interesting was that and she goes

(23:37):
through and it's absolutely fair to do this because we've
criticized Trump for some of the things he's done, the
tariffs and the rest of it, but not only has
the victory on the border been just astonishing, and we're
moving toward figuring out how to deport all the people
who should not be here, which is you know, it's
not done yet, obviously, but it's an amazing victory. You
got the Education Department holding student bar wers accountable for

(24:02):
their debt. You've got women's sports and private spaces being
protected aggressively. We haven't won all those battles, but great
progress is being made. Marco Rubio has made a sweeping
and overdue restructuring in the State Department.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
That's Kim Strassel's words.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Trump has slapped down the idiotic populist idea of a
so called millionaire's tax by various Republicans. There's a long
list of stuff that's pretty good. But the point that
she made that I thought was really interesting was if
you look at the first term, Trump's first term, which
got him reelected, the positives of the first term, because

(24:45):
the chaos of the first term was a you know,
it faded in time and didn't seem as bad and
b A lot of people realized, Oh, Trump didn't cause
that chaos. He didn't say, Hey, you know, I might
be a Russian agent. Let's argue about it for the
next two years.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Right.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
No, that was entirely from the left. But she says,
dig under the surface, there's a common foundation of some
of the missteps. Mister Trump's first term success came largely
down to his reaganesque agenda, and it's those policies deregulation,
tax cuts, peace through strength that still resonate best with voters.
Yet his decision in recent years to draw closer to

(25:22):
his party's new breed of uber populists and neo isolationists
and to seed them, excuse me, through his government is
causing real backroom power struggles. A team of rivals sounds great,
but absent Abe Lincoln, it usually produces a mess.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
That's interesting. I always wonder about that that that book
unfortunately or fortunately and fine book, but got so much
attention that everybody thinks having a whole bunch of people,
you know, in your staff and your work team or whatever,
that disagree wholeheartedly is the way to go. And I'm
not sure that's true.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
No, I think you need agreement on certain critical concepts.
I mean, there was a reason Lincoln put together the
cabinet that he did. Read the book if you want
to know, it wasn't like entirely high minded idealism. You
know what I shall know, I shall Listenmber most of
my opponents into the nose, trying to co opt their
support and their coalition.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Get them on his side to win the election. Blah
blah blah. And then you might take it might take
a genius running that to make it work out.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Also, yeah, perhaps one of the greatest geniuses ever to
hold the office. Yeah, indeed. Yeah, you've got to agree
on certain fundamental principles of domestic and foreign policy. I
think the key is to have advisors who are willing
to say either a here's the weakness or risk of

(26:45):
what I'm proposing, or a cabinet where you say, all right,
Jim has come out with a really good idea. Let's
take a look at the weaknesses and risks of his argument.
Let's make sure we understand this thing from three hundred
and sixty degrees.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
As opposed to you know, a JD.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Vance Marco Rubio, who might disagree violently on foreign policy
just they might.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
It's difficult to tell with those two fellas, but yeah,
I'm repeating some of my favorite pundits who have been
saying this for years. Every president gets elected and thinks
that they have a mandate for just maximum change to
all different parts of the way we run our country.
And it's kind of odd if you think about it,

(27:29):
that we would every four years need major changes in
tax structure, healthcare, border, whatever it is. Just seems unlikely,
doesn't it, as opposed to, you know, tweaking the course
of the ship of state? Right, Yeah, you know, yes,

(27:51):
I was just going to say, I think if Trump
had rolled in and and I know he's been talking
about tariffs since he was a young man, but if
he had rolled in the border and then just kind
of tend to, you know, other things, I think he'd
still be at fifty five percent.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
At the risk of various young populists writing angry emails,
which I chuckle at, what would Reagan do is not
a bad standard just for the big stuff of domestic policy,
especially economics. I'm going to violently restructure trade in the

(28:34):
economy to bring it into conformity with what we need going.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Forward is a great, great goal, but you've.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Got to be realistic about the enormous amount of discontent
that's going to cause and understand that you're going to
get shellacked in a historic way in the midterms.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
I hope I'm wrong, but it's possible. We have no
idea what discontent about this looks like that a month
from now, it's going to it'll be the only thing
anybody talks about.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Right, And what really bothers me about that is the
good stuff that's happening is so good, I mean so good.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
The awareness of the rot in the American education system. Right.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Imagine if that was just cut off after two years,
I mean, Trump would still have his bully pulpit. But
if that progress ended. What to do about the universities?
You know, what to do about elementary education that is
so incredibly important. Protecting women's rights and slapping down the
radical gender theory lunatics, bringing back Columbus that's another big one, certainly. Yeah. Yeah, Again,

(29:45):
if you stay in your lane and maybe one lane
on either side, enormous amounts of good can be done.
As if it's getting over ambitious, that's going to bring
everything down.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
As we've said multiple times, if if, if it turns
out Mark Alpern's got his piece today he said, don't
judge any of this stuff yet. Judge is the war
between Russia and Ukraine over and settled six months from now.
If in quarter four we've got strong growth in this country,
then judge the tariffs. Not today.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
I'd be perfectly happy, perfectly happy with no qualms whatsoever
six months from now. To say, man, that was a
brilliant move that really worked. If it works out well,
and I didn't think it would, but I don't think
it's going to d and I think this is going
to go down as one of the historically own goals

(30:42):
in presidential history. I hope, I know you really get
it wrong. I really want to be wrong for all
kinds of reasons. Financially, personally, I want to be wrong.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
I want to be wrong.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
For the fact that if it is an historic own goal,
the Democrats are going to win like several elections in
a row over it.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
I don't want that to home. Oh yeah again.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Having run on immigration in the economy and hit like
a towering nine hundred foot home run on immigration, to
mess up the economy.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Would just be tragic. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Well, let's hope not yeah again. I'd be happy to
say I'm wrong. Any thoughts in that text line four
one five KFTC.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
Strong Paul land Security second in Christy Noan reportedly had
her perse stolen while dining with her family at a Washington,
DC restaurant. And you would now believe how many Dalmatians
it took to make.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
That's unfair but funny, I would say.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
So.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
I got a weird fomo fear of missing out thing
about when when I when I find out this popular
meme and then I read about it and I think, Hi,
I missed that, and uh. Part of it is this job,
like I don't want to miss out on popular trends
that people are talking about without bringing them to you.
Part of it's just fomo, I guess. But somehow I

(32:10):
missed out on this viral video from a while back
about this guy in his early morning routine that apparently
has caught on. The four am wake up is not
just for Superman's CEOs anymore, says The Wall Street Journal,
and a quest to be ever more productive, the morning
routines of American men hit new extremes, and it's about
how It's become a big deal, whether you're Disney CEO

(32:32):
Bob Iger who starts super early in the morning, or
CEO Tim Cook of Apple getting up at four AM.
I guess is the thing. And I didn't know about
this Ashton Hall, who posted a video his morning routine
that involved mouth tape. Do you know what that is, Katie?
What's mouth tape?

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (32:50):
You put it over your mouth when you sleep.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
It's supposed to force you to breathe through your nose,
which is better for you.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
I think my kids would discover my lifeless body if
I did that. But all right, and I think Almighty
God probably came up with a decent plan for how
you got to breathe while you're asleep. But thanks anyway.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
This guy, he got his mouth tape an ice bath
filled with bottled Saratoga water because the kind of water
cold water in your bath obviously makes a huge difference.
A banana peel rubbed across his face, and most importantly,
it all starts. It's what is sense the oils or something,
And most importantly it all begins at three point fifty

(33:30):
five am.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
I kind of like this sin lives late at night.
According to this post, that got so much attention. If
you're dealing with a weak mind, bad decisions, or lack
of productivity, go to sleep early. You do tend to
make bad decisions at night. Eating a relationship.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Wise shortly after he took the tape off of his
mouth that Benjamin Franklin said, early to bed, early to
rise makes man healthy, wealthy, and wise.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
In the days that fall, that video going viral.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Seemingly half of the Internet, from Ed Shearan to somebody
I've never heard of, posted clips parroting the Hall's routine
about getting up at four o'clock in the morning anyway
that sounds entertaining. I feel like last week we were
talking about how I feel like I don't feel like
I know this is true. Extroverts get to like run

(34:23):
the world and act like that's the only way to
do things.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Because they're extroverts. They're they're loud and proud and are
willing to get in your face and say it, whereas
we introverts.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Are kind of, yeah, I don't, I don't really like
it a whatever, and so you get all the attention.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
I feel like people who are built to get up
early kind of dominate that conversation.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
It works for you because that's the way you're built. Yeah,
it doesn't work for everyone.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
And the sort of person who is more productive, maybe
as productive as you, but does it getting up later
and staying up later.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
So right, exactly, But there's no Look what a hard
guy I am aspect to that.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Right.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
For some reason, that is kind of interesting. I don't
know why it is. I get up at ten am,
but I don't go to sleep until four in the morning,
and I'm productive the whole day gets no attention.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
But yeah, here you've seen as a sloth or something
like that. Yes, kah, Well, there's nothing more manly than
rubbing a banana peel on your face or making sure
you have Saratoga water to jump into as opposed to tapwater.
Good lord, ugh, oh my skin, my poor skin.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Hand me another banana peel quickly it's all dried or
something

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Armstrong and getdy.
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