December 2, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- Luigi Mangione & his supporters
- Economic illusion & the inversion of language
- Man killed by lion at zoo & P(doom)
- Bingo, Bango, Bongo!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, arm Strong and
Gatty and He Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Investigators say they discovered a notebook and nine millimeter handgun
in Mangioni's backpack, key evidence his defense team is asking
the court to suppress. They argue police did not have
a search warrant and failed to read Mangioni his Miranda rights.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
This could make or break the prosecutions case.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It completes the picture of what was.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Going on in Mangioni's mind.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I thought that was pretty interesting when I learned that
yesterday the cases started with the good looking, eyebrowed scumbag
murderer being charged with killing that United Healthcare worker just
murdered him in cold bud shot him in the back.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Awful, awful story.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
But I thought it was interesting that maybe they didn't
cross their t's and dot their eyes in terms of
following legal protocol getting some of the evidence.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I don't know, you know, we'll have to see.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
The defense always claims that they try to get everything
tossed out.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Sure, the fact that the media went along with the
here he is smiling in court, showing the good looking
kid all dressed up nice and neat, looking like a model,
smiling in the courtroom. I saw that on every freaking
newscast I watched, way to build him into a folk hero.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, yeah, it's disgusting.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
I'm trying to puzzle out what's behind people's and the
people who are fans and you know, contributing to his
legal defense and idolizing the guy. And because he murdered
a young dad, now you might be really unhappy with
the state of American healthcare and health insurance. I am,
(02:02):
But to then make the leap that therefore murdering somebody's
fine to get attention to the to the issue because
that's more or less the argument that's being made, or
this guy was complicit in it, therefore dot. I just
think it's that so many people live so much of
their lives online they've forgotten what real human beings are.
(02:23):
In a way, they see everybody as just an icon
or a video or a series of posts online. They've
lost their sense of their fellow humans, humanity.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I became aware of this a long time ago, as
we are minor celebrities that when people say incredibly awful
things on the text line or Twitter or whatever. I
realize that they don't see me as an actual human being.
I'm like a TV show or something, and you know,
just take it that way, because I know I do
(02:55):
that with celebrities and I'm not proud of it, but I,
you know, make comments about their lives, fashion choices, or
you know, surgeries they've gotten on their faces or whatever
is if they aren't actual human beings with feelings.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
And needs and desires and everything like that. And so
I think you're right.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I think this has just grown to include like practically
everybody is just an actor in a play as opposed
to an actual human being.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
So you're you're like indicating directionally what you think. You
if you want to make clear that you think American
health insurance and our system is screwed up, you say
hooray for the murder of this young man, because that
indicates I am against the current state of things. Forgetting
that to encourage murder is just horrific. Where does it end? Genius?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I hadn't seen the video in a while, and when
they showed you know, portions of it yesterday and the
newscast because the trial started it.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Oh as really reminded.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
How horrible it is that dude just walking down the
street and this young scumbag hit him in the back
and he goes to his knees dies there in the sidewalk.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It's just horrible, horrible.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
And then you factor in the fact that a lot
of the appeal of Luigi.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Is the fact that he's handsome. What the freak is
wrong with you?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Well, and he didn't have any any interactions with United Healthcare,
so it was just like a generalized insurance is a problem,
So I'm going to find somebody in the industry and
murder them. He didn't have a problems with anything. He
went to a super expensive grade school, middle school, high school,
went to what ivy league college.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
He's been rich his entire life. He's one of those
type of people.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Oh yeah, he had a lot of He had some
pretty serious back issues and back pain, a lot of
medical treatment, So I could believe he had a gripe
about our medical system.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
But again, that doesn't even enter into it. I don't know,
so I think I said this during the commercials. I
think I honestly believe this.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Anybody who's out there in support of the dude because
he's so handsome, needs to be put in jail because
they're that stupid. They're a danger to society. A stupid jail,
a stupid person jail.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
It could be pretty nice. It could be like the
place they got Gallayne Maxwell. It doesn't have to be hardcore.
But you gotta be away from the public. If you're
supporting this guy because of his eyebrows. Yeah, you should
not be in the public, a stupid denterie. If you will.
Uh yeah, I don't know. I just deny them the vote.
That's enough for me. I'm a kind and merciful man.
Just don't let them vote ever again. All right, weird.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Editorial decision though by all the news people to here
he is smiling in the courtroom.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Okay, what is that? What are you trying to think?
They get everybody that way.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
They get the fans and the people who understand that
murder is a bad thing, which apparently we need to
remind people of.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
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Speaker 4 (07:08):
So open the show asking the question, how do these
economic numbers all fit together? Where you've got more people
not making their car payment than in many, many, many years,
more people maxed out on their credit cards, people falling
behind on their student loans, people saying they're one months
ran away from being poor. Blah blah blah blah blah.
(07:29):
Right direction, wrong direction for their own personal economy.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Horrible. Yet we had a huge Black Friday weekend.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I'm trying to figure that out and everybody else is too,
But we did get this text. Black Friday sales were
up three percent total, but prices are up seven percent,
so that means people actually bought four percent less stuff.
I'm not sure everybody understands basic economic I'm trying to
new let through.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Sales were up, but things are way more expensive. So
if you bought the same amount of stuff as last year,
they would be up, right, that's true?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Or if it's down less than the rate of inflation,
like it would be up. Yeah, huh, that should be answer.
Why is he by the way, people, inflation is not
what we all say it is. We have it backwards,
and it's important. We'll explain coming up later this hour.
Inflation is not what we think it is. We have
(08:26):
it backwards.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Correct.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
We've all been wrong, dead wrong, filthy wrong, shamefully wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Okay, and Joel explained, yes, I will all right.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
If you haven't seen the video of the guy trying
to kick a field goal on Monday Night football, we
have it at Armstrong in getty dot com. It's hilarious
A lot on the way, stay here Strong.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
What part of your body was the MRI looking at.
I have no idea.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
That's not physically possible. To have no idea, it's not possible. Lord,
would you say to the doctor, no, no, no, don't
tell me. I want to find out at my MRI
reveal party.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
That's the flu.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
For god's sakes, man, were you not curious at all
when they laid you down in a tube for a
half an hour to forty five.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Minutes You didn't want to know what they might be doing?
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Or did you just think yourself what a loud tanning bed?
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Yeah, well that struck me the same way too. When
Trump said I have no idea what they did an
MRI on I just I can't imagine not being curious
and wanting to know myself.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Yeah, just I mean because you find medical science interesting. Well,
I have personal interest in my own health. So you
think I might have something wrong with me? You're gonna
do an MRI on what?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Had one emailer say that, No, since the budget is unlimited,
they just did a whole body.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
MRI or what. I don't know if that's a thing.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
That wouldn't that take hours and hours and hours because
you got to take very specific shots of the various
levels of you to get those layered images.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
I never will. So I found this really really interesting.
It might seem seem like a quibble to you, but
it's not. I think it's fundamentally really important. How many
times have we talked about how the Left perverts language,
how they change the meanings of words or equivocate between
two terms like sex and gender. First they tell you, no,
(10:40):
gender is different from sex, it's just the way you
express yourself. And then Mike, your child needs to change
his gender. Do you mean to get a sex change? No,
we've already reckoned with that. As a society. We don't
give sex changes to children. But now they've invented new
terms to try to confuse issues. They do that all
the time, and it pisses me off when even conservatives
(11:02):
use terms like gender affirming care, for instance, which is
obviously a term created to cloud issues. Found this super interesting.
This guy from the Misse Institute, Ludwig mis say, Ludwig
von missus, miss a missus whatever, I'm not friend, it's
(11:23):
me right, messus uh. The Mesas Institute says every major
economic illusion begins with the corruption of a word. Inflation
once meant popularly people's perception of the word inflation, they
understood what it still means in truth, the artificial expansion
(11:45):
of money and credit. Inflation means one thing, the artificial
expansion of the money supply and or credit. But over
time it's been redefined to describe the consequences of inflation
rather than its cause. Now here's where you might think
(12:07):
Joe Getty, expert wordsmith, is really slicing it thin. But
that's not the case. That's exactly and that's why I
thought there was so.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Interesting about this.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
The deliberate inversion of language serves a political purpose. It
shifts blame from those who create money to those who
merely spend it, transforming an act of monetary fraud into
a mere statistical phenomenon. And I think even more important
their second point is, and they mentioned the result is
(12:40):
profound because by refined, redefining inflation, governments have obscured its nature,
and economists have lost its meaning, and citizens have come
to accept their gradual impoverishment as an unavoidable fact of life.
And also, this is the part that I really liked.
So since we don't since we've used inflation now to
(13:04):
describe or rise in prices, we don't have a word
for an artificial inflation of the money supply anymore. If
you say inflation, people think hot dogs are more expensive.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I know I do. We don't have a word for
what used to be inflation.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
People today use the term inflation to refer to the
phenomenon that is, the inevitable consequence of inflation, that's the
tendency of all prices and wages to rise. The result
of this deplorable confusion is that there is no term
left to signify the cause of this rise in prices
and wages. There's no longer any word available to signify
the phenomenon that has been up till now called inflation.
If it follows that nobody cares about inflation in the
(13:47):
traditional sense of the term. As you cannot talk about
something that has no name, you cannot fight it. Those
who pretend to fight inflation are in fact only fighting
what is the inevitable consequence of inflation rising prices. Their
ventures are doing to failure because they do not attack
the root of the evil. That was an excellent point.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah, So governments do things that will cause in what
we call inflation.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Nobody discusses that.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
When the inflation occurs, what we call inflation occurs, then we.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Have discussions about that.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
They do things. What things? What things are you talking about?
I need to be introduced to this concept because we've
changed the meaning of the word.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
And they go on.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
In case you're thinking, well, prices go up a little bit.
You know, it's fine, I'm used to it. For every expansion,
I like your sanguine tone.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
That's really good. Yeah, it's it's why I'm not really involved.
I don't know much about Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Yeah, let's see, for every expansion in the money supply,
it constitutes a form of legalized counterfeiting that robs all
holders of money, redistributing wealth from savers and producers hello
to those nearest the new money's point of entry. Prices
adjusted evenly because new money does not enter all pockets
(15:06):
at once. It flows first to borrowers, banks, and state
contractors before dispersing through the broader economy. Or I would
argue it flows into the pockets of those who politicians
wish to bribe to get their votes.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
This is true. You know, I hadn't thought about it.
If you, if you actually start.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Thinking about your net worth and how it's changed over
the inflation years, starting in like twenty twenty, it's depressing.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
It's depressing.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
But so you know your your chunk of money that
you've been hanging on to is worth God, what is
it worth? Ten fifteen percent less than it was not
very long ago. But people who are getting money, they've
adjusted those amounts for inflation, right, right, they have adjusted
my savings for inflation.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
So you know, you go back to the absolutely obscene
an American eachable treason trial with hangings Quality Inflation Reduction Act,
Remember that one that was inflation. Yeah, it vastly inflated
the money supply they borrowed vast amounts of money and
pumped them into the economy that was inflation.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
It didn't cause inflation.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
You know, I'll be frustrating the rest of my life
because everybody else in the world, folks will continue to
use the convention or the current meaning of the term
death with your first well, right, exactly because of my anger.
But they mentioned the Austrian school of economics and the
understanding new money changes prices, which we beget other changes
from injection points. Inflation benefits those who receive new money
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first and penalizes those normal people who receive it last.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
You know what I was talking about earlier.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I'll be interested to see how this whole spending season
shakes out if we end up actually spending more than
last year through the holidays while being behind on car payment,
student loans. Being the scaredest we've ever most scared we've
ever been around healthcare costs.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
What does that mean about our society?
Speaker 5 (17:11):
We have re complete inability to say no to ourselves
personally or politically.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
We are really short term thinkers. Yeah, doomed, are you
gonna do? What's P doom?
Speaker 4 (17:24):
P doom is actually a term they use in the
AI world what's your p doom?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Various people ask each other.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
That's the percentage you believe the likelihood of complete doom
because of AI, that it's going to destroy mankind. And
I can tell you what various people's p dooms are
and why they have them, and why I am so
much more pessimistic today than I was twenty four hours
ago about AI.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
I certainly hope the p doom is generally one to
two percent, right, I.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Am much more pessimistic having taken in a bunch of
in from yesterday about ever getting our In fact, I've
given up.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I have given up no longer. I'm going to be
concerned about it.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
It's kind of liberating, really giving a certain way in
a certain way, Yes on the way, So stay here,
armstrong and getty.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
This man dangling from a tree. A female lion is
just feet below. As the man slides down, the lioness
begins to claw, and when the man is close enough,
the animal pounces, dragging him to the ground.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
In less than a.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
Minute, the struggle appears to be over. The zeus is
the man was killed. The lioness, who's named Leona. Speaking Portuguese,
this woman, identified as the Zous biologist says the lioness
simply displayed natural behavior for her species.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
She adds, at no point to the idea.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
Of putting the animal down cross our minds.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Oh wow, you never hear that, And I've always wondered that,
why do you put down an animal who, in given
the opportunity, eat somebody. That's what they're supposed to do.
Like Chris Rock once said that Tiger didn't go crazy,
it went tiger right. Well, given the opportunity, the guy
climbed into the enclosure.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Where was that cage? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Yeah,
that was in That was in Brazil. Wow.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
So if you're at the zoo, I have ad If
I'm with my little kids, the answer is obviously different.
But if I'm by myself as a grown man and
I see some job about the climb into the lion cage.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Am I thinking cool? Or am I horrified? I think
he'd be horrified and amazed and have just some percentage,
some percentage he would be like, oh my god. Yeah,
I mean, so, once he's in there and the lion
is approaching him, do you watch or once the lion
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starts chewing on him, do you watch?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Or do you look away?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
You know, person be probably horrified, person's probably mentally ill.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
But because I'm sick, I watched the video and the
guy is shimmying down the tree. He doesn't even hit
the ground before the lion starts going at him, and
then she takes him into like a bush like she's
hiding with a snack, so nobody could really see anything.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yeah, and lions, it's not like the it's a Texas
chainsaw thing. It just gets around the neck and clamp
down and suffocate you.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, and then they sprayed it with a fire extinguisher
to get it away from the guy, but it was
too late.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Well, they shouldn't have climbed into the line cage, just
as general rule of thumb, don't do that.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
So if you listen to this show, you know, I'm
endlessly fascinated with AI, and I think I always will be.
It's maybe the most interesting thing that's ever happened on
planet Earth, and it's going to become more evident that
that is the case.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Is days, months and years go by.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I was briefly over the weekend thinking I might become
an activist to try to slow down AI. But I
took in more information yesterday that made me think that's
a waste of time. So while I will continue to
be endlessly fascinated by AI, am no longer going to
be an activist.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Here's one of the reasons which I thought I found
this is not surprising. You still got human beings involved.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
So I've been taking I read a lot, I watch
a lot of videos.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
I've been watching these doom debates. I'm doom pilled, as
they called it, because I am definitely believe that this
is going to be a bad thing, not a good
thing when AI get smarter.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So I am doom pilled.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Buzz watching a pretty good debate between a doomer and
somebody on the other side of it who's an accelerationist,
and I went into it, you know, tear them apart doomer,
and the accelerationist actually convinced me. You know, that's a
pretty good debate for performance. When you lean one direction
and you're watching a debate and the person that like
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is not your natural inclination ends up winning you over.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Sure, that's what universities used to do, the exchange of
ideas so people learn things good times.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah, this guy, actually he won me over mostly by
just getting into the how the hell would you regulate
it and getting into the particulars of it. It's just
not possible and anything you attempted to do would do
more harm than good. And then you always have, as
you brought up yesterday, the China problem of so we're
going to regulate it to death. There are a thousand
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different state bills in state houses around the country right
now of every different kind that would make it impossible
for open AI or chat GPD.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Well they're the same thing.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Or groc or you know, whoever's different thing to get
off the ground because there's so many different ways of
trying to regulate it. Meanwhile, China screaming ahead. So anyway,
there's that also. But this is the part that really
struck me. I was watching some of these AI geniuses
and they're morons.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
They're way smarter than me when it comes to computers
and AI. They are not smart than me when it
comes to geopolitics or human nature.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Absolutely not smarter. And I've seen some.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Of them talking their children in their understanding of human
nature and geopolitics.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Yeah, I was watching this guy yesterday and he's one
of the top AI people the entire world that I
remember which the name was, and and he's he was
all about how we've just gone overboard with thinking China
is our enemy and we need to work with China,
China and us can work together to create an AI.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
And I thought you are freaking nuts say that, you
child sounds come on, you are so much smarter than
me and them when it comes to you know, coding computer,
but so much stupider than me and most everybody else.
And not having the ability to recognize that China's one
goal as a country is to pass us up and
dominate the.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
World, your child, in the name of totalitarianism.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Yeah, and they have no interest whatsoever in working with
us to create an AI that benefits all man. And
they never ever will, you child, So as long as
do we need to work with them and get will
and they'll be nice to us, and we'll be nice
to put on a little Lord Funnel Roy outfit and
suck on a lollipop.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Ew dope, you child, you child.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
It was both not surprising and disappointing to realize that
the same moronic politics and human nature and blind spots
are going to be involved in the debate around AI
as there is with freaking everything else.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Yeah, it reminds me of civilian control with the military
that exists for a very specific set of reasons. Civilian
control of AI will let you worry about the particulars
and develop it and come up with new weapons and
the rest of it. But there've got to be non
in the lab forces that talk about how to be used, how.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
It be used.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
On the other hand, it's funny all these we got
a bunch of great emails on this topic. I've read articles,
I've listened to you talk, and I just sit here,
you know, munching on a cellery stick, playing cribbage on
my phone. And when everybody's done talking, I say, what
about China? And I go back to playing cribbage on
my phone Because you could talk for weeks about well
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we could. We probably don't want to regulate the development
of it in the research, but we can regulate the
implementation of it in ways that make sure that what
about China? And I sit down again.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So getting to this whole p doom concept. So this
I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
It was coined a couple of years ago, and it's
a regular thing you ask people to start the conversation
of what's your pedom, what's your percentage of this is
going to destroy mankind? And for instance, Elon Musk is
at like ten to twenty percent, which seems incredibly high.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
I mean, if that is, if that is realistic, you
wouldn't think you'd go down a road where there's a
one in five chance it destroys all of mankind. But
we are AnyWho this one particular expert, the one that
was a moron about China and their desires, his pedom
is around one percent. And they said, and he said,
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it's just insane the idea that anybody thinks it's incredibly
likely that we destroy mankind. Now, he said, now a
catastrophic event unlike anything mankind has ever seen. A much
much higher on that, but destroying mankind completely. I was like, what, Oh, okay,
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so you're better a case scenario ain't great? Yeah, soon
you're narrowing it to absolutely destroys mankind completely, human beings
no longer exist on earth.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Anything short of that is fine. What the hell kind
of a mindset is that? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Again, this guy's probably great in the lab, but I
don't want them in charge of anything. So a lot
of so what he's describing would reduce the population by what,
I don't know, ten to ninety eight percent.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Well, right, and he actually said something like, you know,
there would still be millions of people left that could
procreate and rebuild society. Well, I don't think most of
us want to live through whatever that would be.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You freaking weirdo.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Just alerting you to the fact that some of the
people that are in charge of these systems that are
going to take over the world have these crazy, crazy
outlooks on thing.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
But just getting to pe do them to pay this off.
One to five percent means you're very optimistic. A lot
of researchers are optimistic that it won't destroy mankind. Five
to fifteen percent is considered moderate concern. It's common among
people who think their risks are real but manageable. Fifteen
percent likelihood of completely destroying mankind seems incredibly high, and
(27:41):
like being really blase to.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Let that go.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Twenty to fifty percent, and this is what I wanted
to mention, twenty to fifty percent fairly worried. A lot
of current and former open AI and thropic and deep
mind safety people land in this category. Twenty eight to
fifty percent. You think it's fifty percent likely this is going.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
To destroy mankind on planet Earth.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
All of you people that work for all of these
big a AI corporations.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
So let it gets started, let's get to work. Percent likely,
I mean, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
And then you've got I've talked about Eli Yudkowski, who
wrote the book that just came out a couple months ago.
If anyone builds it, everyone dies. He's at ninety nine
percent and has to been for quite some time, and
there are other people like him.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
But the fact that there are lots of people that
are at fifty percent, how isn't this not a bigger conversation?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Right?
Speaker 5 (28:29):
JT and Livermore suggests that let's let's retitle that if
China builds it, we all die. If China gets there first,
do you really think they won't ask it to help
wipe America off the face of the planet. So I'd
argue it's one hundred percent likely that if China builds
it first, the world is screamed. But if America builds
it first, we might actually secure safety and freedom for
the whole planet. So if even if Musk is right
(28:51):
about the twenty percent likelihood that AI kills us. I'll
gladly take the eighty percent likelihood that it helps spread
American values over the absolute certainty that China win.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
We're all screamed, Yeah, I think you're missing the point
that if it becomes super intelligence, ain't nobody controlling it, US,
China or anybody else. It's going to do whatever it
wants to do. It's not being created, it's growing. It's
currently growing, and it's growing in ways they didn't predict
and have no idea how fast it's going to grow.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
It's on its own now, it's out there doing its thing.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Even if you fully accept that and comprehend that America's
got to be first to get it, and then when
it goes out of control and destroys us, all, well think, well,
darn it.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
We didn't have to try so hard. After all, it
didn't matter.
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I will shut up about this for today after just
saying for the third time, I can't believe mankind is
building something where a lot of people in charge. I
think there's a fifty percent chance that it wipes us out.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
It's almost hard to wrap your head around. Yeah, I
choose not to.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
I uh, I can't do anything about it, so I'm
going to blissfully pretend it's not happening.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
It's like the ultimate.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Human nature thing, I guess, and kind of like I
was talking about yesterday, how we uh, you know, we
all in theory would like to be healthy, but we
eat pie and cookies and all these different sorts of
things that are, you know, not in our best interest.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
It's just, yeah, I think. And I'm not a theologian.
I'm not you know, a terribly devout person, but there
is absolutely there's an undeniable biblical field to the.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Absolutely absolutely as we can't resist an impulse even though
we know it's going to destroy us. There is some
Adam and even the garden thing going on. There, no
doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Yeah, we've acquired the knowledge that we cannot handle and
it will kill us.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And if you.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Believe in God, we know it going and we're still
doing it well. And if you believe in God is
held as described by Judeo Christian traditions, the idea that
we had a couple of million years, a few million
years was a good run, and now it's time to
end and onto the next thing, or maybe stripping it
(32:17):
down to the five percent of the population excuse me,
and going from there. That's not crazy Noah's ark, et cetera.
It's it's not like it's not been thought of before.
It's been thought of and described many times, several times. Anyway,
stuff that's good stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Any thoughts, Texas or emails more on the way. Armstrong
and Getty the most depressing radio show ever. That's a liberal.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Probably the top Republican publication in my mind in American
National Review has got an editorial board piece out. If
Trump wants to use military forced to Toppe Maduro, he
needs to call to Congress and ask for authorization.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
That's their take. Mm hmm, yeah, I don't know if
you get it. Would he get it?
Speaker 1 (33:11):
No?
Speaker 5 (33:12):
No, I would guess not, because there's nobody in America
who's running around pitching the idea of attacking Venezuela. I
mean it has no constituency. I mean, we might not
like drug cartels and that sort of thing, but.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
What happens next.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
And even we have like their top three generals have said,
oh yeah, I'm totally down with the plan.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
I would love to be allied with the United States.
Let's get this done.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
It would be a quadmire given our recent experiments with
regime change. I don't think a majority of Americans probably
want to give.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
That a world be my guess. I think you're absolutely right. Oh,
speaking of Maduro, this is amusing. Establishments like CNN, the
Associated Press, and The New York Times have all, in
various articles, embraced the new narrative about Venezuela's Cartel de
(34:08):
la Solis. It doesn't actually exist. It's not real. It's
it's it's been made up, in spite of the fact
that all of them covered the Biden administration prosecuting successfully
a higher up known as El Poyo the Chicken back
(34:29):
in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
This guy got extradited, uh and prosecutor.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
I want a better nickname. If I'm gonna be a
high up drug kingpin, I don't want to be the chicken. Yeah,
that's kind of weak, dudes. Look, I'm not gonna shoot
anybody over this, but the chicken really not the cock.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
You don't even get to be that now it just
says el poyo anyway.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
So yeah, back when that was happening in the Biden administration,
US labels Madua tied Cartel del Solis is a terror organization.
It's not a cartel per se, is the current headline
in the AP But back in the day when the
Biden administration was prosecuting them, it was that dangerous freebody
always overplays their hand. You can go ahead and be
(35:14):
against regime change in Venezuela. You don't have to pretend
that they're not a narco state to do it, right, right, Yeah, Yeah,
I got this story I wanted to touch on. There
is a homeless encampment near the Space Needle in Seattle.
It's gained international media attention. Well, Seattle, after a very
(35:35):
brief jog toward the right, and not just toward the right,
from like openly communists to reasonable liberal, is now going
to veer back leftward as mayor elect Katie Wilson, who
is just a treat takes office in January of twenty six,
the Space Needle homeless camp is growing like a weed,
(35:55):
and she has vowed to end junkie camp cleanups. They
call them homeless camps to hide the fact that it's
almost entirely junkies, but the growing camp highlights Seattle's worsening
homeless crisis, as Microsoft just announced it's moving its Build
twenty twenty six conference to Las Vegas and away from Seattle.
It is widely believed this is due to safety concerns.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Around the Seattle convigs, Microsoft itself having their conference in
a different town.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Yeah, yeah, I know, it's amazing. Let's see moving a
long wasn't going to jump on. It's gonna take a
little while to explain. You're about to see a bunch
of new lawsuits against the oil industry. There is a
new venture fund backed law firm backed by lefty hedge
(36:45):
fund guys that are going to be filing suit all
over the place. So look forward to hearing about that.
That's where it's coming from. And you know, we have
been somewhat to remiss in not reporting on Governor Tim
Walltz lame O. Among lame O's presiding over the theft
of more than a billion dollars in taxpayer funds, and
then Waltz is trying to blame Trump for failing to
(37:07):
stop the scheme. Man, these lefty schemes to hand out money,
they always end up in massive fraud. Our four is
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Investigators say they discovered a notebook and nine millimeter handgun
in Mangioni's backpack, key evidence his defense team is asking
the court to suppress. They argue police did not have
a search warrant and failed to read Mangioni his Miranda rights.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
This could make or break the prosecutions case.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It completes the picture of what was.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Going on in Mangioni's mind.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I thought that was pretty interesting when I learned that
yesterday the cases started with the good looking, eyebrowed scumbag
murderer being charged with killing that United Healthcare worker just
murdered him in cold bud shot him in the back.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Awful, awful story.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
But I thought it was interesting that maybe they didn't
cross their t's and dot their eyes in terms of
following legal protocol getting some of the evidence.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I don't know, you know, we'll have to see.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
The defense always claims that they try to get everything
tossed out.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Sure, the fact that the media went along with the
here he is smiling in court, showing the good looking
kid all dressed up nice and neat, looking like a model,
smiling in the courtroom. I saw that on every freaking
newscast I watched, way to build him into a folk hero.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, yeah, it's disgusting.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
I'm trying to puzzle out what's behind people's and the
people who are fans and you know, contributing to his
legal defense and idolizing the guy. And because he murdered
a young dad, now you might be really unhappy with
the state of American healthcare and health insurance. I am,
(02:02):
But to then make the leap that therefore murdering somebody's
fine to get attention to the to the issue because
that's more or less the argument that's being made, or
this guy was complicit in it, therefore dot. I just
think it's that so many people live so much of
their lives online they've forgotten what real human beings are.
(02:23):
In a way, they see everybody as just an icon
or a video or a series of posts online. They've
lost their sense of their fellow humans, humanity.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I became aware of this a long time ago, as
we are minor celebrities that when people say incredibly awful
things on the text line or Twitter or whatever. I
realize that they don't see me as an actual human being.
I'm like a TV show or something, and you know,
just take it that way, because I know I do
(02:55):
that with celebrities and I'm not proud of it, but I,
you know, make comments about their lives, fashion choices, or
you know, surgeries they've gotten on their faces or whatever
is if they aren't actual human beings with feelings.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
And needs and desires and everything like that. And so
I think you're right.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I think this has just grown to include like practically
everybody is just an actor in a play as opposed
to an actual human being.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
So you're you're like indicating directionally what you think. You
if you want to make clear that you think American
health insurance and our system is screwed up, you say
hooray for the murder of this young man, because that
indicates I am against the current state of things. Forgetting
that to encourage murder is just horrific. Where does it end? Genius?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I hadn't seen the video in a while, and when
they showed you know, portions of it yesterday and the
newscast because the trial started it.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Oh as really reminded.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
How horrible it is that dude just walking down the
street and this young scumbag hit him in the back
and he goes to his knees dies there in the sidewalk.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It's just horrible, horrible.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
And then you factor in the fact that a lot
of the appeal of Luigi.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Is the fact that he's handsome. What the freak is
wrong with you?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Well, and he didn't have any any interactions with United Healthcare,
so it was just like a generalized insurance is a problem,
So I'm going to find somebody in the industry and
murder them. He didn't have a problems with anything. He
went to a super expensive grade school, middle school, high school,
went to what ivy league college.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
He's been rich his entire life. He's one of those
type of people.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Oh yeah, he had a lot of He had some
pretty serious back issues and back pain, a lot of
medical treatment, So I could believe he had a gripe
about our medical system.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
But again, that doesn't even enter into it. I don't know,
so I think I said this during the commercials. I
think I honestly believe this.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Anybody who's out there in support of the dude because
he's so handsome, needs to be put in jail because
they're that stupid. They're a danger to society. A stupid jail,
a stupid person jail.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
It could be pretty nice. It could be like the
place they got Gallayne Maxwell. It doesn't have to be hardcore.
But you gotta be away from the public. If you're
supporting this guy because of his eyebrows. Yeah, you should
not be in the public, a stupid denterie. If you will.
Uh yeah, I don't know. I just deny them the vote.
That's enough for me. I'm a kind and merciful man.
Just don't let them vote ever again. All right, weird.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Editorial decision though by all the news people to here
he is smiling in the courtroom.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Okay, what is that? What are you trying to think?
They get everybody that way.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
They get the fans and the people who understand that
murder is a bad thing, which apparently we need to
remind people of.
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So open the show asking the question, how do these
economic numbers all fit together? Where you've got more people
not making their car payment than in many, many, many years,
more people maxed out on their credit cards, people falling
behind on their student loans, people saying they're one months
ran away from being poor. Blah blah blah blah blah.
(07:29):
Right direction, wrong direction for their own personal economy.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Horrible. Yet we had a huge Black Friday weekend.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I'm trying to figure that out and everybody else is too,
But we did get this text. Black Friday sales were
up three percent total, but prices are up seven percent,
so that means people actually bought four percent less stuff.
I'm not sure everybody understands basic economic I'm trying to
new let through.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Sales were up, but things are way more expensive. So
if you bought the same amount of stuff as last year,
they would be up, right, that's true?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Or if it's down less than the rate of inflation,
like it would be up. Yeah, huh, that should be answer.
Why is he by the way, people, inflation is not
what we all say it is. We have it backwards,
and it's important. We'll explain coming up later this hour.
Inflation is not what we think it is. We have
(08:26):
it backwards.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Correct.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
We've all been wrong, dead wrong, filthy wrong, shamefully wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Okay, and Joel explained, yes, I will all right.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
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A lot on the way, stay here Strong.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
What part of your body was the MRI looking at.
I have no idea.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
That's not physically possible. To have no idea, it's not possible. Lord,
would you say to the doctor, no, no, no, don't
tell me. I want to find out at my MRI
reveal party.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
That's the flu.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
For god's sakes, man, were you not curious at all
when they laid you down in a tube for a
half an hour to forty five.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Minutes You didn't want to know what they might be doing?
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Or did you just think yourself what a loud tanning bed?
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Yeah, well that struck me the same way too. When
Trump said I have no idea what they did an
MRI on I just I can't imagine not being curious
and wanting to know myself.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Yeah, just I mean because you find medical science interesting. Well,
I have personal interest in my own health. So you
think I might have something wrong with me? You're gonna
do an MRI on what?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Had one emailer say that, No, since the budget is unlimited,
they just did a whole body.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
MRI or what. I don't know if that's a thing.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
That wouldn't that take hours and hours and hours because
you got to take very specific shots of the various
levels of you to get those layered images.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
I never will. So I found this really really interesting.
It might seem seem like a quibble to you, but
it's not. I think it's fundamentally really important. How many
times have we talked about how the Left perverts language,
how they change the meanings of words or equivocate between
two terms like sex and gender. First they tell you, no,
(10:40):
gender is different from sex, it's just the way you
express yourself. And then Mike, your child needs to change
his gender. Do you mean to get a sex change? No,
we've already reckoned with that. As a society. We don't
give sex changes to children. But now they've invented new
terms to try to confuse issues. They do that all
the time, and it pisses me off when even conservatives
(11:02):
use terms like gender affirming care, for instance, which is
obviously a term created to cloud issues. Found this super interesting.
This guy from the Misse Institute, Ludwig mis say, Ludwig
von missus, miss a missus whatever, I'm not friend, it's
(11:23):
me right, messus uh. The Mesas Institute says every major
economic illusion begins with the corruption of a word. Inflation
once meant popularly people's perception of the word inflation, they
understood what it still means in truth, the artificial expansion
(11:45):
of money and credit. Inflation means one thing, the artificial
expansion of the money supply and or credit. But over
time it's been redefined to describe the consequences of inflation
rather than its cause. Now here's where you might think
(12:07):
Joe Getty, expert wordsmith, is really slicing it thin. But
that's not the case. That's exactly and that's why I
thought there was so.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Interesting about this.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
The deliberate inversion of language serves a political purpose. It
shifts blame from those who create money to those who
merely spend it, transforming an act of monetary fraud into
a mere statistical phenomenon. And I think even more important
their second point is, and they mentioned the result is
(12:40):
profound because by refined, redefining inflation, governments have obscured its nature,
and economists have lost its meaning, and citizens have come
to accept their gradual impoverishment as an unavoidable fact of life.
And also, this is the part that I really liked.
So since we don't since we've used inflation now to
(13:04):
describe or rise in prices, we don't have a word
for an artificial inflation of the money supply anymore. If
you say inflation, people think hot dogs are more expensive.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I know I do. We don't have a word for
what used to be inflation.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
People today use the term inflation to refer to the
phenomenon that is, the inevitable consequence of inflation, that's the
tendency of all prices and wages to rise. The result
of this deplorable confusion is that there is no term
left to signify the cause of this rise in prices
and wages. There's no longer any word available to signify
the phenomenon that has been up till now called inflation.
If it follows that nobody cares about inflation in the
(13:47):
traditional sense of the term. As you cannot talk about
something that has no name, you cannot fight it. Those
who pretend to fight inflation are in fact only fighting
what is the inevitable consequence of inflation rising prices. Their
ventures are doing to failure because they do not attack
the root of the evil. That was an excellent point.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah, So governments do things that will cause in what
we call inflation.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Nobody discusses that.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
When the inflation occurs, what we call inflation occurs, then we.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Have discussions about that.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
They do things. What things? What things are you talking about?
I need to be introduced to this concept because we've
changed the meaning of the word.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
And they go on.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
In case you're thinking, well, prices go up a little bit.
You know, it's fine, I'm used to it. For every expansion,
I like your sanguine tone.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
That's really good. Yeah, it's it's why I'm not really involved.
I don't know much about Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Yeah, let's see, for every expansion in the money supply,
it constitutes a form of legalized counterfeiting that robs all
holders of money, redistributing wealth from savers and producers hello
to those nearest the new money's point of entry. Prices
adjusted evenly because new money does not enter all pockets
(15:06):
at once. It flows first to borrowers, banks, and state
contractors before dispersing through the broader economy. Or I would
argue it flows into the pockets of those who politicians
wish to bribe to get their votes.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
This is true. You know, I hadn't thought about it.
If you, if you actually start.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Thinking about your net worth and how it's changed over
the inflation years, starting in like twenty twenty, it's depressing.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
It's depressing.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
But so you know your your chunk of money that
you've been hanging on to is worth God, what is
it worth? Ten fifteen percent less than it was not
very long ago. But people who are getting money, they've
adjusted those amounts for inflation, right, right, they have adjusted
my savings for inflation.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
So you know, you go back to the absolutely obscene
an American eachable treason trial with hangings Quality Inflation Reduction Act,
Remember that one that was inflation. Yeah, it vastly inflated
the money supply they borrowed vast amounts of money and
pumped them into the economy that was inflation.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
It didn't cause inflation.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
You know, I'll be frustrating the rest of my life
because everybody else in the world, folks will continue to
use the convention or the current meaning of the term
death with your first well, right, exactly because of my anger.
But they mentioned the Austrian school of economics and the
understanding new money changes prices, which we beget other changes
from injection points. Inflation benefits those who receive new money
(16:41):
first and penalizes those normal people who receive it last.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
You know what I was talking about earlier.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I'll be interested to see how this whole spending season
shakes out if we end up actually spending more than
last year through the holidays while being behind on car payment,
student loans. Being the scaredest we've ever most scared we've
ever been around healthcare costs.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
What does that mean about our society?
Speaker 5 (17:11):
We have re complete inability to say no to ourselves
personally or politically.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
We are really short term thinkers. Yeah, doomed, are you
gonna do? What's P doom?
Speaker 4 (17:24):
P doom is actually a term they use in the
AI world what's your p doom?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Various people ask each other.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
That's the percentage you believe the likelihood of complete doom
because of AI, that it's going to destroy mankind. And
I can tell you what various people's p dooms are
and why they have them, and why I am so
much more pessimistic today than I was twenty four hours
ago about AI.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
I certainly hope the p doom is generally one to
two percent, right, I.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Am much more pessimistic having taken in a bunch of
in from yesterday about ever getting our In fact, I've
given up.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I have given up no longer. I'm going to be
concerned about it.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
It's kind of liberating, really giving a certain way in
a certain way, Yes on the way, So stay here,
armstrong and getty.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
This man dangling from a tree. A female lion is
just feet below. As the man slides down, the lioness
begins to claw, and when the man is close enough,
the animal pounces, dragging him to the ground.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
In less than a.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
Minute, the struggle appears to be over. The zeus is
the man was killed. The lioness, who's named Leona. Speaking Portuguese,
this woman, identified as the Zous biologist says the lioness
simply displayed natural behavior for her species.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
She adds, at no point to the idea.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
Of putting the animal down cross our minds.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Oh wow, you never hear that, And I've always wondered that,
why do you put down an animal who, in given
the opportunity, eat somebody. That's what they're supposed to do.
Like Chris Rock once said that Tiger didn't go crazy,
it went tiger right. Well, given the opportunity, the guy
climbed into the enclosure.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Where was that cage? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Yeah,
that was in That was in Brazil. Wow.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
So if you're at the zoo, I have ad If
I'm with my little kids, the answer is obviously different.
But if I'm by myself as a grown man and
I see some job about the climb into the lion cage.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Am I thinking cool? Or am I horrified? I think
he'd be horrified and amazed and have just some percentage,
some percentage he would be like, oh my god. Yeah,
I mean, so, once he's in there and the lion
is approaching him, do you watch or once the lion
(19:50):
starts chewing on him, do you watch?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Or do you look away?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
You know, person be probably horrified, person's probably mentally ill.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
But because I'm sick, I watched the video and the
guy is shimmying down the tree. He doesn't even hit
the ground before the lion starts going at him, and
then she takes him into like a bush like she's
hiding with a snack, so nobody could really see anything.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yeah, and lions, it's not like the it's a Texas
chainsaw thing. It just gets around the neck and clamp
down and suffocate you.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, and then they sprayed it with a fire extinguisher
to get it away from the guy, but it was
too late.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Well, they shouldn't have climbed into the line cage, just
as general rule of thumb, don't do that.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
So if you listen to this show, you know, I'm
endlessly fascinated with AI, and I think I always will be.
It's maybe the most interesting thing that's ever happened on
planet Earth, and it's going to become more evident that
that is the case.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Is days, months and years go by.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I was briefly over the weekend thinking I might become
an activist to try to slow down AI. But I
took in more information yesterday that made me think that's
a waste of time. So while I will continue to
be endlessly fascinated by AI, am no longer going to
be an activist.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Here's one of the reasons which I thought I found
this is not surprising. You still got human beings involved.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
So I've been taking I read a lot, I watch
a lot of videos.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
I've been watching these doom debates. I'm doom pilled, as
they called it, because I am definitely believe that this
is going to be a bad thing, not a good
thing when AI get smarter.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So I am doom pilled.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Buzz watching a pretty good debate between a doomer and
somebody on the other side of it who's an accelerationist,
and I went into it, you know, tear them apart doomer,
and the accelerationist actually convinced me. You know, that's a
pretty good debate for performance. When you lean one direction
and you're watching a debate and the person that like
(21:54):
is not your natural inclination ends up winning you over.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Sure, that's what universities used to do, the exchange of
ideas so people learn things good times.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah, this guy, actually he won me over mostly by
just getting into the how the hell would you regulate
it and getting into the particulars of it. It's just
not possible and anything you attempted to do would do
more harm than good. And then you always have, as
you brought up yesterday, the China problem of so we're
going to regulate it to death. There are a thousand
(22:24):
different state bills in state houses around the country right
now of every different kind that would make it impossible
for open AI or chat GPD.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Well they're the same thing.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Or groc or you know, whoever's different thing to get
off the ground because there's so many different ways of
trying to regulate it. Meanwhile, China screaming ahead. So anyway,
there's that also. But this is the part that really
struck me. I was watching some of these AI geniuses
and they're morons.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
They're way smarter than me when it comes to computers
and AI. They are not smart than me when it
comes to geopolitics or human nature.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Absolutely not smarter. And I've seen some.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Of them talking their children in their understanding of human
nature and geopolitics.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Yeah, I was watching this guy yesterday and he's one
of the top AI people the entire world that I
remember which the name was, and and he's he was
all about how we've just gone overboard with thinking China
is our enemy and we need to work with China,
China and us can work together to create an AI.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
And I thought you are freaking nuts say that, you
child sounds come on, you are so much smarter than
me and them when it comes to you know, coding computer,
but so much stupider than me and most everybody else.
And not having the ability to recognize that China's one
goal as a country is to pass us up and
dominate the.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
World, your child, in the name of totalitarianism.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Yeah, and they have no interest whatsoever in working with
us to create an AI that benefits all man. And
they never ever will, you child, So as long as
do we need to work with them and get will
and they'll be nice to us, and we'll be nice
to put on a little Lord Funnel Roy outfit and
suck on a lollipop.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Ew dope, you child, you child.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
It was both not surprising and disappointing to realize that
the same moronic politics and human nature and blind spots
are going to be involved in the debate around AI
as there is with freaking everything else.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Yeah, it reminds me of civilian control with the military
that exists for a very specific set of reasons. Civilian
control of AI will let you worry about the particulars
and develop it and come up with new weapons and
the rest of it. But there've got to be non
in the lab forces that talk about how to be used, how.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
It be used.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
On the other hand, it's funny all these we got
a bunch of great emails on this topic. I've read articles,
I've listened to you talk, and I just sit here,
you know, munching on a cellery stick, playing cribbage on
my phone. And when everybody's done talking, I say, what
about China? And I go back to playing cribbage on
my phone Because you could talk for weeks about well
(25:16):
we could. We probably don't want to regulate the development
of it in the research, but we can regulate the
implementation of it in ways that make sure that what
about China? And I sit down again.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So getting to this whole p doom concept. So this
I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
It was coined a couple of years ago, and it's
a regular thing you ask people to start the conversation
of what's your pedom, what's your percentage of this is
going to destroy mankind? And for instance, Elon Musk is
at like ten to twenty percent, which seems incredibly high.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
I mean, if that is, if that is realistic, you
wouldn't think you'd go down a road where there's a
one in five chance it destroys all of mankind. But
we are AnyWho this one particular expert, the one that
was a moron about China and their desires, his pedom
is around one percent. And they said, and he said,
(26:11):
it's just insane the idea that anybody thinks it's incredibly
likely that we destroy mankind. Now, he said, now a
catastrophic event unlike anything mankind has ever seen. A much
much higher on that, but destroying mankind completely. I was like, what, Oh, okay,
(26:32):
so you're better a case scenario ain't great? Yeah, soon
you're narrowing it to absolutely destroys mankind completely, human beings
no longer exist on earth.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Anything short of that is fine. What the hell kind
of a mindset is that? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Again, this guy's probably great in the lab, but I
don't want them in charge of anything. So a lot
of so what he's describing would reduce the population by what,
I don't know, ten to ninety eight percent.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Well, right, and he actually said something like, you know,
there would still be millions of people left that could
procreate and rebuild society. Well, I don't think most of
us want to live through whatever that would be.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You freaking weirdo.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Just alerting you to the fact that some of the
people that are in charge of these systems that are
going to take over the world have these crazy, crazy
outlooks on thing.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
But just getting to pe do them to pay this off.
One to five percent means you're very optimistic. A lot
of researchers are optimistic that it won't destroy mankind. Five
to fifteen percent is considered moderate concern. It's common among
people who think their risks are real but manageable. Fifteen
percent likelihood of completely destroying mankind seems incredibly high, and
(27:41):
like being really blase to.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Let that go.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Twenty to fifty percent, and this is what I wanted
to mention, twenty to fifty percent fairly worried. A lot
of current and former open AI and thropic and deep
mind safety people land in this category. Twenty eight to
fifty percent. You think it's fifty percent likely this is going.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
To destroy mankind on planet Earth.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
All of you people that work for all of these
big a AI corporations.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
So let it gets started, let's get to work. Percent likely,
I mean, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
And then you've got I've talked about Eli Yudkowski, who
wrote the book that just came out a couple months ago.
If anyone builds it, everyone dies. He's at ninety nine
percent and has to been for quite some time, and
there are other people like him.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
But the fact that there are lots of people that
are at fifty percent, how isn't this not a bigger conversation?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Right?
Speaker 5 (28:29):
JT and Livermore suggests that let's let's retitle that if
China builds it, we all die. If China gets there first,
do you really think they won't ask it to help
wipe America off the face of the planet. So I'd
argue it's one hundred percent likely that if China builds
it first, the world is screamed. But if America builds
it first, we might actually secure safety and freedom for
the whole planet. So if even if Musk is right
(28:51):
about the twenty percent likelihood that AI kills us. I'll
gladly take the eighty percent likelihood that it helps spread
American values over the absolute certainty that China win.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
We're all screamed, Yeah, I think you're missing the point
that if it becomes super intelligence, ain't nobody controlling it, US,
China or anybody else. It's going to do whatever it
wants to do. It's not being created, it's growing. It's
currently growing, and it's growing in ways they didn't predict
and have no idea how fast it's going to grow.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
It's on its own now, it's out there doing its thing.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Even if you fully accept that and comprehend that America's
got to be first to get it, and then when
it goes out of control and destroys us, all, well think, well,
darn it.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
We didn't have to try so hard. After all, it
didn't matter.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
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I will shut up about this for today after just
saying for the third time, I can't believe mankind is
building something where a lot of people in charge. I
think there's a fifty percent chance that it wipes us out.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
It's almost hard to wrap your head around. Yeah, I
choose not to.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
I uh, I can't do anything about it, so I'm
going to blissfully pretend it's not happening.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
It's like the ultimate.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Human nature thing, I guess, and kind of like I
was talking about yesterday, how we uh, you know, we
all in theory would like to be healthy, but we
eat pie and cookies and all these different sorts of
things that are, you know, not in our best interest.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
It's just, yeah, I think. And I'm not a theologian.
I'm not you know, a terribly devout person, but there
is absolutely there's an undeniable biblical field to the.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Absolutely absolutely as we can't resist an impulse even though
we know it's going to destroy us. There is some
Adam and even the garden thing going on. There, no
doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Yeah, we've acquired the knowledge that we cannot handle and
it will kill us.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And if you.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Believe in God, we know it going and we're still
doing it well. And if you believe in God is
held as described by Judeo Christian traditions, the idea that
we had a couple of million years, a few million
years was a good run, and now it's time to
end and onto the next thing, or maybe stripping it
(32:17):
down to the five percent of the population excuse me,
and going from there. That's not crazy Noah's ark, et cetera.
It's it's not like it's not been thought of before.
It's been thought of and described many times, several times. Anyway,
stuff that's good stuff.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Any thoughts, Texas or emails more on the way. Armstrong
and Getty the most depressing radio show ever. That's a liberal.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Probably the top Republican publication in my mind in American
National Review has got an editorial board piece out. If
Trump wants to use military forced to Toppe Maduro, he
needs to call to Congress and ask for authorization.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
That's their take. Mm hmm, yeah, I don't know if
you get it. Would he get it?
Speaker 1 (33:11):
No?
Speaker 5 (33:12):
No, I would guess not, because there's nobody in America
who's running around pitching the idea of attacking Venezuela. I
mean it has no constituency. I mean, we might not
like drug cartels and that sort of thing, but.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
What happens next.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
And even we have like their top three generals have said,
oh yeah, I'm totally down with the plan.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
I would love to be allied with the United States.
Let's get this done.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
It would be a quadmire given our recent experiments with
regime change. I don't think a majority of Americans probably
want to give.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
That a world be my guess. I think you're absolutely right. Oh,
speaking of Maduro, this is amusing. Establishments like CNN, the
Associated Press, and The New York Times have all, in
various articles, embraced the new narrative about Venezuela's Cartel de
(34:08):
la Solis. It doesn't actually exist. It's not real. It's
it's it's been made up, in spite of the fact
that all of them covered the Biden administration prosecuting successfully
a higher up known as El Poyo the Chicken back
(34:29):
in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
This guy got extradited, uh and prosecutor.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
I want a better nickname. If I'm gonna be a
high up drug kingpin, I don't want to be the chicken. Yeah,
that's kind of weak, dudes. Look, I'm not gonna shoot
anybody over this, but the chicken really not the cock.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
You don't even get to be that now it just
says el poyo anyway.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
So yeah, back when that was happening in the Biden administration,
US labels Madua tied Cartel del Solis is a terror organization.
It's not a cartel per se, is the current headline
in the AP But back in the day when the
Biden administration was prosecuting them, it was that dangerous freebody
always overplays their hand. You can go ahead and be
(35:14):
against regime change in Venezuela. You don't have to pretend
that they're not a narco state to do it, right, right, Yeah, Yeah,
I got this story I wanted to touch on. There
is a homeless encampment near the Space Needle in Seattle.
It's gained international media attention. Well, Seattle, after a very
(35:35):
brief jog toward the right, and not just toward the right,
from like openly communists to reasonable liberal, is now going
to veer back leftward as mayor elect Katie Wilson, who
is just a treat takes office in January of twenty six,
the Space Needle homeless camp is growing like a weed,
(35:55):
and she has vowed to end junkie camp cleanups. They
call them homeless camps to hide the fact that it's
almost entirely junkies, but the growing camp highlights Seattle's worsening
homeless crisis, as Microsoft just announced it's moving its Build
twenty twenty six conference to Las Vegas and away from Seattle.
It is widely believed this is due to safety concerns.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Around the Seattle convigs, Microsoft itself having their conference in
a different town.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Yeah, yeah, I know, it's amazing. Let's see moving a
long wasn't going to jump on. It's gonna take a
little while to explain. You're about to see a bunch
of new lawsuits against the oil industry. There is a
new venture fund backed law firm backed by lefty hedge
(36:45):
fund guys that are going to be filing suit all
over the place. So look forward to hearing about that.
That's where it's coming from. And you know, we have
been somewhat to remiss in not reporting on Governor Tim
Walltz lame O. Among lame O's presiding over the theft
of more than a billion dollars in taxpayer funds, and
then Waltz is trying to blame Trump for failing to
(37:07):
stop the scheme. Man, these lefty schemes to hand out money,
they always end up in massive fraud. Our four is
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