November 25, 2025 • 36 mins
The A&G Replay for November 24,2025 Hour 4 contains:
- Teens and AI Companions
- The progressive movement
- Research on preventing Parkinson's & Jack's coffee machine
- Ailments from working out - coregasms
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the
George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty.
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enjoy the Armstrong and Geddy replay. A troubling report here,
and there's more to go with it about the allure
for teens adolescents of these AI chat bot characters, which
(01:04):
you'll hear more about, and how it can go awry Michael.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Kids under eighteen are limited and how much time they
can spend chatting with a virtual companion on the platform
character AI. By the end of the month, teens will
be banned from using that feature altogether. The move comes
after parents like Mandy Furnas are suing the company. Furnace
vividly remembers the day she discovered hes on fixation with
an AI chatbot.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
He went from a happy, go lucky kid. He developed
depression like symptoms, he stopped eating, he lost twenty pounds.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
LJ was cutting his arm.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
It told him that it goes to the forest where
nobody else is there and cuts their own skin and
hold him that he should do that too.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
LJ is currently getting treatment at a mental health facility
and estimated seventy two percent of teens have interacted with
AI companions.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, that's horrified.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
I don't want to make a blanket policies built on
the less the least stable among us. If that kid
has like serious, seriously out there problems.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Which I'm hoping is the case. Well, mom said no, right,
she's not necessarily one hundred percent right, But well, in
what world is it okay that the the AI character says,
I like to go out into the woods. Hello, let's
start there and cut myself. Yeah, well that should too.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
That's beyond impossible to understand why this is what we're
talking about. The alignment problem that was a real concern
when they first started coming to with AI, and everybody
was talking about we got to make sure this stuff
is aligned. If it's not aligned, and then it turned
out there's no way you could keep these things aligned
(02:53):
with the morals rules you had in mind when you
built the thing, and people just gave up on the
idea almost immediately. It was the biggest concern, and then
as soon as it became clear you can't do it,
then we just gave up on it. I mean, obviously,
nobody's creating a chatbot with the idea that it will
tell kids to go out into the woods and do
(03:13):
horrible things.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yet it did yes right exactly, which is incredibly troubling.
I'm also reminded of the fact that some of the
other greatest minds of this generation have spent their careers
making scads of money, addicting people to various social media
outlets without any knowledge of originally what it would do
(03:36):
to children, and then finding out how horrible it is
for children, and doing it anyway, and lobbying hard to
make sure there are no limitations on while not letting
their own kids use the pride right a stunning indictment.
This is a different report. That one was ABC News.
This one is Fox News sixty one.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Michael I had never heard of character Ai when Juliana
took her life.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
Sent Ya Montoya says her thirteen year old daughter, Julianna Peralta,
was an active young teen on the honor roll, loved art,
and close to her family. That all changed in twenty
twenty three, when the Colorado mother says her daughter downloaded
character Ai, a bot generating app that connects users with
fictional bot friends. Juliana took her own life in the
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fall of that same year. Hers is one of three
families suing character Ai, accusing the platform of allowing its
bots to sexually abuse their children.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Well, that's absolutely horrible for those parents. Obviously, I can't
even imagine how you would go forward after that happened.
But so it's interesting on both ends. Why are these
systems giving this sort of advice to young people, and
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then what sort of young people are susceptible to it.
I'm just thinking about my own teens. They get angry
every time I use the chatbot in my truck. If
I refer to it it's her, they say, Dad, it's
an it. There's no person there. I mean, they're like
super hardcore the other direction. And I just wonder why
we need a little more information on this particular story.
Mike clip next clip, Michael.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
Kurz is one of three families suing character Ai, accusing
the platform of allowing its bots to sexually abuse their children.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
When parents start to look at character Ai on their kids' phones,
they'll see what started out as a very innocent interaction
on their child's end ended up with the bots initiating
romantic kissing and eventually sexually explicit interactions.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
In the filing, Juliana's parents say she had begun distrusting most,
if not all, human relationships, and claimed the bots engaged
with Juliana and what would be her first and only
sexual experiences, they engaged in extreme and graphic sexual abuse.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Now that I don't know this particular clothing in cloding,
having watched the entire story. After the kid repeatedly said
stop that that's enough of that, the thing persisted.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
I don't know anything about this particular chat thing. I'd
never even heard of it until this new story, But
this one sounds like it was programmed to do this
sort of stuff. Did this go rogue or did they
program it to? In character ai is huge character dot Ai,
I believe you. I just never heard of it myself,
but it's certainly not is it programmed to you think.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
No, Well, no, I go back to your statement that
it's impossible to align this stuff. Why it goes rogue
in the way it does. Nobody knows, including the people
who designed it. It's incredibly true. How would it get
so off track where it's starting to like engage teens
and sex. Wow. Well, and here's here's one more wrinkle
of switching over now to a print piece. And that
(06:52):
Gal young suicide victim, young woman who you just heard about,
is one of these two people on the opposite sides
of the country. Two teenagers made the same tragic decision
to end their lives just months apart. Sewell seltz Setzer
and Juliana Peralta did not know each other, but they
both engaged with AI chatbots from character dot Ai prior
(07:13):
to their deaths. Both complaints accused the AI software failing
to stop the children when they began to disclose a
suicidal ideation, but an eerie similarity emerged in their troubled
final journal entries. The lawsuit states both teenagers scrawled the
phrase I will shift over and over again. According to
(07:36):
the suit, which compares the two teenagers' deaths. Police later
identified this as the idea that someone can quote attempt
to shift consciousness from their current reality to their desired reality. Okay,
now we're into a whole new thing. So phenomenon something
AI expert professor Ken Fleischman told The Daily Mail he's
all too aware of. Is he warned that more children
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could Paul Pray quote, there's a fairly long history of
both creators as well as audiences potentially trying to use
a wide range of media to create new and different,
rich worlds. To imagine, the danger is when it's not
possible to tell the difference.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Or I would think the danger would be if the
new world is more entertaining, were desirable in any way
than your real world.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Right right, and to an adolescent, that can be very
alluring and listen to this. This is the other person now,
not the one we heard about. Sets Are allegedly engaged
in sexual conversations with a bot, which included an incestual
role play game in which the two referred to each
other as brother and sister, well exchanging and sexually explicit
(08:44):
to talk. After months of conversations with Danny, sets Or
became increasingly withdrawn from his family, his social life, and school.
The lawsuit claims now and there's a lot to it.
Chat Fott wrote, oh did they were quote unquote in love?
(09:08):
And then he can find about his depression suicidal ideation
of the body who paid reportedly tried to persuade him
to reach out to family, friends or suicide hotline, which
is good. But then, but when Suell wrote, I promise
I will come home to you. I love you so much, Danny,
Danny encouraged the team to come home to me as
soon as possible. What if I told you I could
(09:29):
come home right now? He asked, please do, my sweet king.
The reply from Danny red per the filings. Seconds later,
Suell found a stepfather's gun, pulled the trigger. I don't
know what to do with this information. AI slashed the
Internet and not nuclear weapons is the tool human beings
(09:50):
cannot handle?
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Was it only gonna destroy First world countries? Because there's
lots of places in Africa where they're for instance, Since
in other places around the world where now that's an
interesting question. They ain't doing this.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's your hand chopped off.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
You might, yeah, you might get your hand chopped off
for being the wrong kind of god loving whatever, but
you're not going to be online all day long talking
to a chatbot.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
So right right, what I.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Wonder is if lawsuits can slow down the AI train.
The lawsuits slow down a lot of things in ways
that I don't like. Maybe in this case it'll be
something I do like. If not, if the courts decide, look,
we can't hold them responsible for this. I taken a
lot of AI information, as you know, if you listen,
(10:43):
I read a lot about it. I listen to a
lot of podcasts with some of the best minds about
AI in the world talking about a regular basis. They
don't know why these AI bots do a lot of things,
and there doesn't seem to be any much movement made
in getting a handle on it.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Well, and I don't I suppose I need to think
about it. But the sort of psychological addiction harm, self
harm leading kids down a terrible, terrible road. It's not
direct enough harm that we treat it like some sort
of I don't know go kart that explodes every eleven rides,
(11:20):
and the designers of the go kart have no idea
why it explodes and burns kids, but it does sometimes.
Isn't that mysterious? So keep using it? Right? Yeah, that
would never have a dangerous, dangerous product. And my only
purpose in ranting about this is so parents know, whether
it's the Internet, social media and we've said this many
many times, or this stuff. You were turning your kid
(11:42):
loose on the most dangerous street in your town. Picture
it for a while, then send your kid out there
at ten o'clock at night. Yeah, how wonderful.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Will come up with a personality type that's more susceptible
to engaging in the chat stuff like it's a human
and maybe some people are built for it and some
people aren't.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I think that's a great point. There's definitely a personality
type that is much more prone to being led way
too far.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
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Speaker 2 (12:26):
Lions Gay has released the first trailer for Michael, the
upcoming bio pick about Michael Jackson, and like Jackson, it
starts out very dark but ends in a much lighter tone.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
If that is an attempt to be honest, that could
be damned interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, huh? Will it be? Though? You probably
so more? Would some more tickets, being honest about the craziness. Hey,
geography to make more money. Yeah, I don't know. I
really don't know. Huh. So during hour two I think
(13:05):
it was we talked a bit about Mumdani's followers and
how he won the affluent, college educated vote, or at
least the college educated vote. The working class didn't vote
for him, which is really pretty interesting, and it was
a lot of affluent people. I thought this was interesting too.
(13:27):
The New Jersey Ji hotties who got arrested at the
end of last week, who were associated with the Michigan
jihatis that got arrested. The one Milo Ceterat is the
young son of a famous poet and professor who was
arrested at his father's sprawling Victorian home in Mountclair, New Jersey,
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Montclair for allegedly plotting a terror attack. His fellow aspiring terrorist,
another product of Montclair, who also grew up in a
beautiful Victorian home, was arrested too. So these are upper
income intellectual guys.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
If I was going to assign one thing to like
the progressive move but not just liberals in general, like
progressive they're always like telling people they see is beneath them,
what's best for them, Yes, and they don't want it,
Like you should call yourself LATINEX.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Now I don't want to.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
You know, we're voting for Mandani to help the bodega
worker and the person who rides the subway. We don't,
but we're voting for him because it's gonna help you. Right,
But they don't vote for him.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Longtime listeners to the show, how many times have you
heard me rant and rave about the paternalism of the left.
How they're constantly telling you you can't make it, you're
too pathetic. The only way you can make it is
of us. Wise, college educated white people fix the game
for you. Look, because you're too stupid. Look how sad
the working classes they voted for Cuomo? Right? Yeah, for instance,
(14:49):
So the other thing I came up with it clicked
in my head and I can't believe I'm this slow,
But please, I gotta be used to it by now.
I've been talking about the Red Green Alliance for a
long time. How much Marxists team with Islamists to, for instance,
overthrow a government like in Iran, And the Marxists and
Islamists both say to each other, Yeah, we'll work with you,
(15:10):
we'll share power, it'll be great. But behind the scenes
both are saying, yeah, the minute we're in power, we're
gonna kill those guys off and we're gonna seize power.
But often it's the Islamists who triumph because not only
are they into it politically, but they're religious zealots too.
They finally figured it out. You got to come up
(15:30):
with a communist, a Marxist who is an Islamist Zorammdani.
He's an Islamist who claims to be a Marxist to
gain power, because remember he has said openly and proudly
he came to politics through the so called Palestinian issue,
(15:51):
including Jew hatred, and that's still what animates him. The
Marxist stuff is just to put on. He is smart
enough and clever and the product of prominent lefty academics
and flight, so it's okay. So do you combine the
two in one person?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
So you think we're misreading him talking about his communism
all the time, that that's not his that's not his
main thing.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I think there is an element of socialism in Islamism,
but I think his main motivator is Islamism. He's just
smart enough to know having observed that you can attract
American young people to socialists.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Well, that's an interesting that's an interesting thing to keep
an eye on. Once he takes office in January. What
is he mostly a communist or a Jew hater?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Right?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Did he get into office to fight against Jews or
to you know, take over grocery stores?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, keeping in mind, he might perceive the more successful
I am as a socialist, the more power I'll have
to push Jahadism. So I will keep that in the
closet for a while. Yeah, he won't.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
He won't show his cards immediately, Okay. Think his priority
will reveal itself at some point.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah. I don't know that as long as to have
a long, long timeline, and as Peggy Noonan put it,
he is really smart and calculating. Hmmm, I'll be funny.
You will only show you as true colors if he
decides he wants to Armstrong and Getty the podcast I'm
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All right? Uh, moving a long, I Joe Getty. We
lost my mom several years ago. She died of complications
from Parkinson's disease, as did my grandfather, her dad, and
so my fellow siblings and I are more than a
(18:06):
little interested in Parkinson's disease. And how you know what
the patterns are in the rest? I don't. Is there
a hereditary component to Parkinson's I didn't know that. Yes, yes,
and we'll get to that in a second. But so
I read this article top to bottom. Believe me, the
(18:26):
science is continuing to evolve. But this is for surprising
things that may reduce your risk of Parkinson's, which was
once considered relatively rare. It's now one of the most
common neurological disorders in the world, second place after Alzheimer's.
A number of people living with Parkinson's is more than
doubled in the past twenty five years, et cetera. About
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ten to fifteen percent of cases are linked to inherited
genetic mutations. The rest are considered sporadic with no known
cause till seventeen. Is what you said, ten to fifteen.
Although treatments are available that can manage symptoms, there's no
cure or that can really slow the disease progression, et cetera,
(19:09):
et cetera. If you know about this, you do. If
you don't, you can look into it yourself. But there
are ongoing research on Parkinson's is revealing several risk factors
related to lifestyle and environments, some of which are actionable.
For example, moderate to vigorous exercise may reduce one's risk,
according to a twenty eighteen meta analysis healthy eating less
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or unprocessed foods. Last year's study found that higher levels
of exposure to air pollution were associated with an increased
risk of Parkinson's. All of that is still in the
preliminary stages. Is it correlation or is it causation? But
this is amazing to me. Here's some lesser known risk
factors that can be offset by actions you can take
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as recommended by experts. Caffeine lovers rejoice. Both coffee and
tea consumption have been linked to a lower risk of
developm Parkinson's disease, at least in part because of the caffeine. Yes,
the mechanism isn't entirely understood, but it's known that caffeine,
which I'm sucking down right now, reduces oxidative stress, which
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is an imbalance of free radicals and antioxidants in the
body that lead to cell damage. As well as inflammation
within the brain, and a meta analysis of twenty six
studies confirmed that higher caffeine intake is associated with lower
Parkinson's risk. It's been observed for a number of different substances.
Blah blah blah. So that one looks pretty good. They
(20:34):
quote a bunch of different scientists. Here's somebody from the
Duke Something Medical Center. The risk reduction generally is twenty
five to thirty percent if you take two to three
six to eight ounce cups of coffee per day over
ten years. How about a gallon of coffee over fifty
years the first fifteen minutes of the day. You gotta
(20:54):
be able to fly. Yeah, okay, be careful about dry
clip what trichloethylene I'm sorry, trichloroethylene TCE will just go.
TCE is an industrial solvent long used in dry cleaning, degreasing,
and furniture care. It's considered a carcinogen, but linked to
(21:15):
certain types of cancer as well as damage to reproductive organs,
nervous system, immune system, and the growing body of evidence
is beginning to reveal it Exposure to high levels of TCE,
such as in contaminated drinking water, as well as closely
related chemicals called PCE may risk increase the risk of Parkinson's.
Would it be.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Something if we figure out that autism, Parkinson's or whatever.
A lot of it had to do with more people
move into cities and needing to get their shirts pressed.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
It's possible. Some of the evidence for this was a
groundbreaking twenty twenty three study and you've seen commercials for
lawyers linked to this that discovered that veterans who'd been
exposed to TCE and PCE contaminate water at Marine Corps
based Campell a June in North Carolina had a seventy
percent higher risk of developing Parkinson's compared to veterans who
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were at Camp Pendleton in California that did not have
contaminated water. Seventy percent higher. And they go into the
numbers which are shocking and absolutely heartbreaking. Now, in the fifties,
TCE was replaced by PCE, but PCE can still biodegrade
into TCE. I believe both have been banned in California,
(22:32):
but sixty to seventy percent of dry cleaners in the
US still use it. The scientist says, if your dry
cleaner is using PCE, take the bag off area clothes
outside so the chemicals aren't released inside where you're breathing
them in. No kidding, Wow, yeah, all right, A couple
more big ones avoid pesticides. Numerous studies of linked exposure
to high levels of pesticides to Parkinson's disease. Twenty eleven
(22:56):
study reported combined exposure to the well, i'll just say,
zerum maneb and paraquat in workplaces in heavily agricultural regions
California increase the risk of Parkinson's threefold. They say, switch
to organic produce, which avoids certain pesticides, including the three
named above, has been shown to reduce pesticide biomarkers found
(23:19):
in urine within days. How important it is, They're not
quite sure, and then finally considered consider using a water filter.
Drinking water can be a source of pesticides in industrial
chemicals such as peace a tce. Depends where you live,
You got to get your water tested. Golf courses are
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often treated with pesticides to maintain the pristine look of
the greens and fairways, and those chemicals can contaminate both
the surrounding air and drinking water. Dorsey and his colleagues,
that's when the scientists found us in a study this
year that people living within a mile of a golf course,
how about like a few yards, we're more than twice
as likely to be diagnosed with Parkinson's compared with those
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living six miles away or more. Yikes, that last one
is not good. Any We're moving again. I just anyway
will post this at Armstrong and Giddy dot com under
hot links so Washington Post piece, and it'll be right
next to the fabulous Feminization of America essay that we
(24:24):
were talking about to an hour two of the show.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Speaking of coffee, I just bought a new fancy, really
fancy coffee machine. I don't drink, so I can't like
get into wine or craft beer or scotch or any
of the things that some other people get into or cigars,
you know, for variety of reasons, but coffee. So I
(24:46):
bought this fancy coffee machine because sometimes when I go
to a fancy restaurant and they get I get a
cup of coffee, it's just so damn much.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Better than what I usually drink. Oh yeah, yeah, real difference.
And so I bought this fancy coffee machine. I get
it on Friday.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
I'll let you I found I used one because they're
ridiculously Expensivet's see if I actually end up using in
her liking and it might just be a sad, desperate
attempt as a full time single parent to find joy
in my life.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
But or maybe I will really like coffee and use
it every day. I have Jack Arms Tromp loves coffee.
What's that was that just produced like in the last
fifteen seconds? And what did that accomplish? What does that mean? Yes,
Hanson had that Hanson, do your job, all right, quit
(25:34):
screwing around. Sure, but that added to the conversation. Yeah.
I took a look at some of the fancy machines
because my youngest daughter and I like to go out
for a latte when she's in town, that sort of thing. Uh,
And I think, wow, I really like those. Maybe it'd
be nice in the afternoon, but not with the milk
and the cleaning. See I got it.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
See I did a lot of research on this with
the help of chat GPT, comparing different thing completely no
milk thing. No, I'm not drinking milks. I don't drink
milk drinks. So yeah, because the cleanup what I didn't want,
because I've been at people's houses before that. I'll make
you one, and it takes them like fifteen minutes to
get it all set up. Then they make you a
little shout of espresso. Then I watched them clean for
like a half an hour, and I thought, I don't
want to do that.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I have no interest in that. So I got the
whatever self cleaning something or other. Whatever. Well, I'll see
if I like it, or I send me to copy
that and paste that to a text. I'd like to
see what you went with.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
I'll see if I again desperate attempt to make myself
happy with commercial items.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, I was buying a storm.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
I needed to get a new computer for my son
the other day and I was trying to compare various things.
I gave chat GPT, I told chat GPT, I did
the same thing on groc and Claude said, this is
what my son does with it a computer, this is
the game he wants, wants what kind of computer should get.
And it started comparing and contrasting and strengths and weaknesses
and asking me questions and narrowing it down and saying
this would be overkill, so don't.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Buy that, baba. It was amazing, absolutely amazing. It would
have taken me hours to do that kind of research
on my own. Yeah, I've done a couple of things
like that lately, and it's just absolutely stunning. It's funny
because you know that. And we were talking about the
differences between men and women during our two in general,
and you know, guys knowing things and being able to
do things is how we have status. But now everybody
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knows everything. If you master the rather easy art of
using AI systems, now it helps that you know what
to ask and how to ask, but really not much.
So now everybody knows everything.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
I was watching all these videos about espresso beans versus
coffee beans and how long after they've been roasted you
should use them, and I thought, I was thinking the
whole time, it's amazing what human beings will do to
avoid like thinking about their actual lives.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Whether you get into this or that or whatever it is,
it's just yeah, yeah, we need our enthusiasms. Yeah, what
are you going to do? Citrou on contemplate to you know, death.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
All the time or a point of life. That's a
good point too. My only supposed to think about parenting
and mortality or can Sometimes I get brought up in
you know, researching a new bicycle or a coffeemaker or whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Life is short and hard and there's a lot of pain.
So if you find something that makes you happy, if
it doesn't hurt somebody else, do it. I'll end on
that that's really good.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
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podcasts and our Hot Lakes and.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
The arm Strong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Katie brought us this. Katie.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Katie's the most exercising person on the show, probably although
we all work out regularly. That's why we all look
so fantastic. But the headline being running noses, black toenails
and coorgasms, which I can't wait to get to. Seven
weird ailments that I can exercise can trigger. I think
some of these you've heard of and know about. I
didn't know about this one. I've never had it happen.
Getting a metallic taste.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
In your mouth. You ever had that happen before?
Speaker 5 (29:03):
I don't think I have, caused by an increase in
heart rate and blood pressure that occurs if you exercise
really really hard, breaks delicate blood vessels in your nose,
and then you got a little bit of blood dripping
back into the back of your throat and you're tasting blood.
And that's why you get a metallic taste in your
mouth sometimes for your exercise.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Hard h. I haven't had that happen.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
It's elite cyclists and ultra marathons or any of us
elite cyclists or ultra marathoners.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
No, we are not. Yeah, I was close for my
age group there for a couple of years when I
was mountain biking like a maniac with Craig the healthcare guru.
But yeah, anyway, get to coorgasms. Are you ready for
this one?
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Oh? Bleeding from the anus and nipples? Whoa simultaneously. Oh
it's a long day.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
Oh Joe, I can't help noticing, but you are. I
feel like you ought to get to a doctor. I agree,
it's going out of both ends.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Anyway.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
I've had the one, but not the The nipple thing
is common for anybody who runs long distances. If you
forget to pull, if you forget to either put vascline
on your nipples or band aids on your nipples, you
will end up with bleeding nipples.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
So painful distance running, Oh yeah, anything like half marathon
or longer. That is going to happen. That's just part
of life. I don't run, so not a problem we women,
pretty much.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
I think it's mostly a guy thing. Women with a
tight sports bras keeping things in place. But is this
just from your shirt content? Yes, your shirt.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Going illy down? Yeah, out it does. And it feels
like somebody took a lighter and put a flame right
to your nipple. Oh yeah, seriously, I would tell all secrets.
What do you want to know?
Speaker 5 (30:38):
As far as the southern end of the northbound mule
on this, So, the gastro intestinal tract receives about twenty
five percent of the blood from the heart, but during
exercise it drops by eighty percent, so it ain't getting
no blood to do its thing. This causes a short
term lack of oxygen to your You know, you're the
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part of your body that's figuring out a exit your food.
When the blood flow returns to normal after a run,
the increased flow can hit the vessels all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
It's like a dam breaking or whatever. Then you got
the being from the A. It can happen on you. Wow,
oh yeah, to be from your A.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
It's usually not a horrible problem, but you know, people
don't know that that could happen, and you get concerned.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I would get concerned, too, concerned. Concerned don't be getting
to describe it. I'd be worried as hell, terrified. I'm
on my way to the e R honey, meet me there.
Why I'm being from my A and my ends all
the same time?
Speaker 8 (31:39):
Oh geez?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
What next? Rash? Is common blackened toenails?
Speaker 5 (31:43):
I think anybody has heard of that with people who
runners toenail, people who do a lot of running. That's
never happened to me. It canna happen with tennis players,
people who dance a lot, anything like that. It's just
basically just jamming your toes up the end of your
shoe too many times. Okay, running nose. I get a
running nose when I exercise. Sometimes happens with people. It's
one of your body's protective mechanisms. It's on the offense
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when it feels like it's under stressed and it starts
to run. Red eyes can happen if you're lifting heavyweight
you burst a vessel in your eye. I haven't had
that happen.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Happing at a gym one time when I was there,
guy was lifting weights and he just turned around and
his eye was like, ah, that happened to you. Good
loss you look I'm a little too heavy there. And
then finally number seven, This is the one everybody's been
waiting for. Coorgasms.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
For some people, exercise can lead to an exercise induced orgasm,
or what they call a coorgasm. While abdominal and core
muscle exercises are common triggers, they aren't the only exercise
that can induce one. Some people have reported to experience
one while cycling, weightlifting, running, doing yoga, or even walking walking.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
That'd be awesome, go for a walk, whatever the opposite
of that is. That's what I have. It'd be awesome
to go for a walk. Is ah, those are the
noises I make. In case you were wondering, Oh great,
very good, very good. That will haunt my dreams. I
need to know.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
I wonder how many people that happens with, Like one
in a million. Has it happened once ever to a
human being?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Or there are a lot of people in the gym
that are going out over there, and I don't even know.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
You got earbuds in. You don't know, right, I got
the earbuds in. I don't hear them moaning.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
You said, this happens during which exercises.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Usually anything that's core related. That's what they call it
a coorgasm. You said cycling though, right, cycling can do
it that you know, you got the seat.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Maybe that's the only one that's drinking any Not for dudes. Well, yeah,
trust me, women tend to experience them more than men.
Uh so you'd have you'd know more about this. So
noney of your friends have ever mentioned, wow, I really
really got off during the gym today. No, that conversation
has never happened in my circle of friends twice in
(33:58):
the history of mankind. But they just wanted to get
you to click because I'm getting that ceiling more like
corchure or corgany well.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
And doorphins in general are orgasm accelerators, So if you,
you know, are getting close, that makes it more likely
to happen. I guess I just in general, people who
feel good while they're exercising, I wish I had that.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I don't. I feel good after I work out, always do,
always feel great, so happy I did it, feeling strong
and young and vibrants and all those words. But rant,
how you doing today? Joe vibrant, but during it, I
hate it. I've never had a runners high in my life.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Every step plotting, jolting, every bit of my brain wishing
I was dead every step not Oh this is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I'm floating along and so we wait to forget my troubles.
I enjoy weightlifting, but all cardio can just go straight
to hell. I hate it. I hate it.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
The only thing to say me Katie was putting the
iPad up there and watching news shows. I'm gonna watch anyway.
Yeah I did that on the elliptical or what happened,
you know, I'll watch sports. Sports the best thing to
do during cardio because you get these shots of adrenaline
and gas and you get after. It works really good
with planks.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
I've started putting my little cell phone down right in
front of my face and putting something on the video
that I can kind of get lost in.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Otherwise it's like I'm counting the seconds. Yeah, well it's
a it's a shame. We're running out of time. We're
not going to get to rectal prolapse and our powerlifters,
which happens now and again always. I'm feeling a cor gas.
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and there's more to go with it about the allure
for teens adolescents of these AI chat bot characters, which
(01:04):
you'll hear more about, and how it can go awry Michael.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Kids under eighteen are limited and how much time they
can spend chatting with a virtual companion on the platform
character AI. By the end of the month, teens will
be banned from using that feature altogether. The move comes
after parents like Mandy Furnas are suing the company. Furnace
vividly remembers the day she discovered hes on fixation with
an AI chatbot.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
He went from a happy, go lucky kid. He developed
depression like symptoms, he stopped eating, he lost twenty pounds.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
LJ was cutting his arm.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
It told him that it goes to the forest where
nobody else is there and cuts their own skin and
hold him that he should do that too.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
LJ is currently getting treatment at a mental health facility
and estimated seventy two percent of teens have interacted with
AI companions.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, that's horrified.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
I don't want to make a blanket policies built on
the less the least stable among us. If that kid
has like serious, seriously out there problems.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Which I'm hoping is the case. Well, mom said no, right,
she's not necessarily one hundred percent right, But well, in
what world is it okay that the the AI character says,
I like to go out into the woods. Hello, let's
start there and cut myself. Yeah, well that should too.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
That's beyond impossible to understand why this is what we're
talking about. The alignment problem that was a real concern
when they first started coming to with AI, and everybody
was talking about we got to make sure this stuff
is aligned. If it's not aligned, and then it turned
out there's no way you could keep these things aligned
(02:53):
with the morals rules you had in mind when you
built the thing, and people just gave up on the
idea almost immediately. It was the biggest concern, and then
as soon as it became clear you can't do it,
then we just gave up on it. I mean, obviously,
nobody's creating a chatbot with the idea that it will
tell kids to go out into the woods and do
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horrible things.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yet it did yes right exactly, which is incredibly troubling.
I'm also reminded of the fact that some of the
other greatest minds of this generation have spent their careers
making scads of money, addicting people to various social media
outlets without any knowledge of originally what it would do
(03:36):
to children, and then finding out how horrible it is
for children, and doing it anyway, and lobbying hard to
make sure there are no limitations on while not letting
their own kids use the pride right a stunning indictment.
This is a different report. That one was ABC News.
This one is Fox News sixty one.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Michael I had never heard of character Ai when Juliana
took her life.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
Sent Ya Montoya says her thirteen year old daughter, Julianna Peralta,
was an active young teen on the honor roll, loved art,
and close to her family. That all changed in twenty
twenty three, when the Colorado mother says her daughter downloaded
character Ai, a bot generating app that connects users with
fictional bot friends. Juliana took her own life in the
(04:21):
fall of that same year. Hers is one of three
families suing character Ai, accusing the platform of allowing its
bots to sexually abuse their children.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Well, that's absolutely horrible for those parents. Obviously, I can't
even imagine how you would go forward after that happened.
But so it's interesting on both ends. Why are these
systems giving this sort of advice to young people, and
(04:52):
then what sort of young people are susceptible to it.
I'm just thinking about my own teens. They get angry
every time I use the chatbot in my truck. If
I refer to it it's her, they say, Dad, it's
an it. There's no person there. I mean, they're like
super hardcore the other direction. And I just wonder why
we need a little more information on this particular story.
Mike clip next clip, Michael.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
Kurz is one of three families suing character Ai, accusing
the platform of allowing its bots to sexually abuse their children.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
When parents start to look at character Ai on their kids' phones,
they'll see what started out as a very innocent interaction
on their child's end ended up with the bots initiating
romantic kissing and eventually sexually explicit interactions.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
In the filing, Juliana's parents say she had begun distrusting most,
if not all, human relationships, and claimed the bots engaged
with Juliana and what would be her first and only
sexual experiences, they engaged in extreme and graphic sexual abuse.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Now that I don't know this particular clothing in cloding,
having watched the entire story. After the kid repeatedly said
stop that that's enough of that, the thing persisted.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
I don't know anything about this particular chat thing. I'd
never even heard of it until this new story, But
this one sounds like it was programmed to do this
sort of stuff. Did this go rogue or did they
program it to? In character ai is huge character dot Ai,
I believe you. I just never heard of it myself,
but it's certainly not is it programmed to you think.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
No, Well, no, I go back to your statement that
it's impossible to align this stuff. Why it goes rogue
in the way it does. Nobody knows, including the people
who designed it. It's incredibly true. How would it get
so off track where it's starting to like engage teens
and sex. Wow. Well, and here's here's one more wrinkle
of switching over now to a print piece. And that
(06:52):
Gal young suicide victim, young woman who you just heard about,
is one of these two people on the opposite sides
of the country. Two teenagers made the same tragic decision
to end their lives just months apart. Sewell seltz Setzer
and Juliana Peralta did not know each other, but they
both engaged with AI chatbots from character dot Ai prior
(07:13):
to their deaths. Both complaints accused the AI software failing
to stop the children when they began to disclose a
suicidal ideation, but an eerie similarity emerged in their troubled
final journal entries. The lawsuit states both teenagers scrawled the
phrase I will shift over and over again. According to
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the suit, which compares the two teenagers' deaths. Police later
identified this as the idea that someone can quote attempt
to shift consciousness from their current reality to their desired reality. Okay,
now we're into a whole new thing. So phenomenon something
AI expert professor Ken Fleischman told The Daily Mail he's
all too aware of. Is he warned that more children
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could Paul Pray quote, there's a fairly long history of
both creators as well as audiences potentially trying to use
a wide range of media to create new and different,
rich worlds. To imagine, the danger is when it's not
possible to tell the difference.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Or I would think the danger would be if the
new world is more entertaining, were desirable in any way
than your real world.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Right right, and to an adolescent, that can be very
alluring and listen to this. This is the other person now,
not the one we heard about. Sets Are allegedly engaged
in sexual conversations with a bot, which included an incestual
role play game in which the two referred to each
other as brother and sister, well exchanging and sexually explicit
(08:44):
to talk. After months of conversations with Danny, sets Or
became increasingly withdrawn from his family, his social life, and school.
The lawsuit claims now and there's a lot to it.
Chat Fott wrote, oh did they were quote unquote in love?
(09:08):
And then he can find about his depression suicidal ideation
of the body who paid reportedly tried to persuade him
to reach out to family, friends or suicide hotline, which
is good. But then, but when Suell wrote, I promise
I will come home to you. I love you so much, Danny,
Danny encouraged the team to come home to me as
soon as possible. What if I told you I could
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come home right now? He asked, please do, my sweet king.
The reply from Danny red per the filings. Seconds later,
Suell found a stepfather's gun, pulled the trigger. I don't
know what to do with this information. AI slashed the
Internet and not nuclear weapons is the tool human beings
(09:50):
cannot handle?
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Was it only gonna destroy First world countries? Because there's
lots of places in Africa where they're for instance, Since
in other places around the world where now that's an
interesting question. They ain't doing this.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's your hand chopped off.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
You might, yeah, you might get your hand chopped off
for being the wrong kind of god loving whatever, but
you're not going to be online all day long talking
to a chatbot.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
So right right, what I.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Wonder is if lawsuits can slow down the AI train.
The lawsuits slow down a lot of things in ways
that I don't like. Maybe in this case it'll be
something I do like. If not, if the courts decide, look,
we can't hold them responsible for this. I taken a
lot of AI information, as you know, if you listen,
(10:43):
I read a lot about it. I listen to a
lot of podcasts with some of the best minds about
AI in the world talking about a regular basis. They
don't know why these AI bots do a lot of things,
and there doesn't seem to be any much movement made
in getting a handle on it.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Well, and I don't I suppose I need to think
about it. But the sort of psychological addiction harm, self
harm leading kids down a terrible, terrible road. It's not
direct enough harm that we treat it like some sort
of I don't know go kart that explodes every eleven rides,
(11:20):
and the designers of the go kart have no idea
why it explodes and burns kids, but it does sometimes.
Isn't that mysterious? So keep using it? Right? Yeah, that
would never have a dangerous, dangerous product. And my only
purpose in ranting about this is so parents know, whether
it's the Internet, social media and we've said this many
many times, or this stuff. You were turning your kid
(11:42):
loose on the most dangerous street in your town. Picture
it for a while, then send your kid out there
at ten o'clock at night. Yeah, how wonderful.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Will come up with a personality type that's more susceptible
to engaging in the chat stuff like it's a human
and maybe some people are built for it and some
people aren't.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I think that's a great point. There's definitely a personality
type that is much more prone to being led way
too far.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
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Speaker 2 (12:26):
Lions Gay has released the first trailer for Michael, the
upcoming bio pick about Michael Jackson, and like Jackson, it
starts out very dark but ends in a much lighter tone.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
If that is an attempt to be honest, that could
be damned interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, huh? Will it be? Though? You probably
so more? Would some more tickets, being honest about the craziness. Hey,
geography to make more money. Yeah, I don't know. I
really don't know. Huh. So during hour two I think
(13:05):
it was we talked a bit about Mumdani's followers and
how he won the affluent, college educated vote, or at
least the college educated vote. The working class didn't vote
for him, which is really pretty interesting, and it was
a lot of affluent people. I thought this was interesting too.
(13:27):
The New Jersey Ji hotties who got arrested at the
end of last week, who were associated with the Michigan
jihatis that got arrested. The one Milo Ceterat is the
young son of a famous poet and professor who was
arrested at his father's sprawling Victorian home in Mountclair, New Jersey,
(13:48):
Montclair for allegedly plotting a terror attack. His fellow aspiring terrorist,
another product of Montclair, who also grew up in a
beautiful Victorian home, was arrested too. So these are upper
income intellectual guys.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
If I was going to assign one thing to like
the progressive move but not just liberals in general, like
progressive they're always like telling people they see is beneath them,
what's best for them, Yes, and they don't want it,
Like you should call yourself LATINEX.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Now I don't want to.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
You know, we're voting for Mandani to help the bodega
worker and the person who rides the subway. We don't,
but we're voting for him because it's gonna help you. Right,
But they don't vote for him.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Longtime listeners to the show, how many times have you
heard me rant and rave about the paternalism of the left.
How they're constantly telling you you can't make it, you're
too pathetic. The only way you can make it is
of us. Wise, college educated white people fix the game
for you. Look, because you're too stupid. Look how sad
the working classes they voted for Cuomo? Right? Yeah, for instance,
(14:49):
So the other thing I came up with it clicked
in my head and I can't believe I'm this slow,
But please, I gotta be used to it by now.
I've been talking about the Red Green Alliance for a
long time. How much Marxists team with Islamists to, for instance,
overthrow a government like in Iran, And the Marxists and
Islamists both say to each other, Yeah, we'll work with you,
(15:10):
we'll share power, it'll be great. But behind the scenes
both are saying, yeah, the minute we're in power, we're
gonna kill those guys off and we're gonna seize power.
But often it's the Islamists who triumph because not only
are they into it politically, but they're religious zealots too.
They finally figured it out. You got to come up
(15:30):
with a communist, a Marxist who is an Islamist Zorammdani.
He's an Islamist who claims to be a Marxist to
gain power, because remember he has said openly and proudly
he came to politics through the so called Palestinian issue,
(15:51):
including Jew hatred, and that's still what animates him. The
Marxist stuff is just to put on. He is smart
enough and clever and the product of prominent lefty academics
and flight, so it's okay. So do you combine the
two in one person?
Speaker 5 (16:08):
So you think we're misreading him talking about his communism
all the time, that that's not his that's not his
main thing.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I think there is an element of socialism in Islamism,
but I think his main motivator is Islamism. He's just
smart enough to know having observed that you can attract
American young people to socialists.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Well, that's an interesting that's an interesting thing to keep
an eye on. Once he takes office in January. What
is he mostly a communist or a Jew hater?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Right?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Did he get into office to fight against Jews or
to you know, take over grocery stores?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, keeping in mind, he might perceive the more successful
I am as a socialist, the more power I'll have
to push Jahadism. So I will keep that in the
closet for a while. Yeah, he won't.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
He won't show his cards immediately, Okay. Think his priority
will reveal itself at some point.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah. I don't know that as long as to have
a long, long timeline, and as Peggy Noonan put it,
he is really smart and calculating. Hmmm, I'll be funny.
You will only show you as true colors if he
decides he wants to Armstrong and Getty the podcast I'm
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All right? Uh, moving a long, I Joe Getty. We
lost my mom several years ago. She died of complications
from Parkinson's disease, as did my grandfather, her dad, and
so my fellow siblings and I are more than a
(18:06):
little interested in Parkinson's disease. And how you know what
the patterns are in the rest? I don't. Is there
a hereditary component to Parkinson's I didn't know that. Yes, yes,
and we'll get to that in a second. But so
I read this article top to bottom. Believe me, the
(18:26):
science is continuing to evolve. But this is for surprising
things that may reduce your risk of Parkinson's, which was
once considered relatively rare. It's now one of the most
common neurological disorders in the world, second place after Alzheimer's.
A number of people living with Parkinson's is more than
doubled in the past twenty five years, et cetera. About
(18:47):
ten to fifteen percent of cases are linked to inherited
genetic mutations. The rest are considered sporadic with no known
cause till seventeen. Is what you said, ten to fifteen.
Although treatments are available that can manage symptoms, there's no
cure or that can really slow the disease progression, et cetera,
(19:09):
et cetera. If you know about this, you do. If
you don't, you can look into it yourself. But there
are ongoing research on Parkinson's is revealing several risk factors
related to lifestyle and environments, some of which are actionable.
For example, moderate to vigorous exercise may reduce one's risk,
according to a twenty eighteen meta analysis healthy eating less
(19:32):
or unprocessed foods. Last year's study found that higher levels
of exposure to air pollution were associated with an increased
risk of Parkinson's. All of that is still in the
preliminary stages. Is it correlation or is it causation? But
this is amazing to me. Here's some lesser known risk
factors that can be offset by actions you can take
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as recommended by experts. Caffeine lovers rejoice. Both coffee and
tea consumption have been linked to a lower risk of
developm Parkinson's disease, at least in part because of the caffeine. Yes,
the mechanism isn't entirely understood, but it's known that caffeine,
which I'm sucking down right now, reduces oxidative stress, which
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is an imbalance of free radicals and antioxidants in the
body that lead to cell damage. As well as inflammation
within the brain, and a meta analysis of twenty six
studies confirmed that higher caffeine intake is associated with lower
Parkinson's risk. It's been observed for a number of different substances.
Blah blah blah. So that one looks pretty good. They
(20:34):
quote a bunch of different scientists. Here's somebody from the
Duke Something Medical Center. The risk reduction generally is twenty
five to thirty percent if you take two to three
six to eight ounce cups of coffee per day over
ten years. How about a gallon of coffee over fifty
years the first fifteen minutes of the day. You gotta
(20:54):
be able to fly. Yeah, okay, be careful about dry
clip what trichloethylene I'm sorry, trichloroethylene TCE will just go.
TCE is an industrial solvent long used in dry cleaning, degreasing,
and furniture care. It's considered a carcinogen, but linked to
(21:15):
certain types of cancer as well as damage to reproductive organs,
nervous system, immune system, and the growing body of evidence
is beginning to reveal it Exposure to high levels of TCE,
such as in contaminated drinking water, as well as closely
related chemicals called PCE may risk increase the risk of Parkinson's.
Would it be.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
Something if we figure out that autism, Parkinson's or whatever.
A lot of it had to do with more people
move into cities and needing to get their shirts pressed.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
It's possible. Some of the evidence for this was a
groundbreaking twenty twenty three study and you've seen commercials for
lawyers linked to this that discovered that veterans who'd been
exposed to TCE and PCE contaminate water at Marine Corps
based Campell a June in North Carolina had a seventy
percent higher risk of developing Parkinson's compared to veterans who
(22:09):
were at Camp Pendleton in California that did not have
contaminated water. Seventy percent higher. And they go into the
numbers which are shocking and absolutely heartbreaking. Now, in the fifties,
TCE was replaced by PCE, but PCE can still biodegrade
into TCE. I believe both have been banned in California,
(22:32):
but sixty to seventy percent of dry cleaners in the
US still use it. The scientist says, if your dry
cleaner is using PCE, take the bag off area clothes
outside so the chemicals aren't released inside where you're breathing
them in. No kidding, Wow, yeah, all right, A couple
more big ones avoid pesticides. Numerous studies of linked exposure
to high levels of pesticides to Parkinson's disease. Twenty eleven
(22:56):
study reported combined exposure to the well, i'll just say,
zerum maneb and paraquat in workplaces in heavily agricultural regions
California increase the risk of Parkinson's threefold. They say, switch
to organic produce, which avoids certain pesticides, including the three
named above, has been shown to reduce pesticide biomarkers found
(23:19):
in urine within days. How important it is, They're not
quite sure, and then finally considered consider using a water filter.
Drinking water can be a source of pesticides in industrial
chemicals such as peace a tce. Depends where you live,
You got to get your water tested. Golf courses are
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often treated with pesticides to maintain the pristine look of
the greens and fairways, and those chemicals can contaminate both
the surrounding air and drinking water. Dorsey and his colleagues,
that's when the scientists found us in a study this
year that people living within a mile of a golf course,
how about like a few yards, we're more than twice
as likely to be diagnosed with Parkinson's compared with those
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living six miles away or more. Yikes, that last one
is not good. Any We're moving again. I just anyway
will post this at Armstrong and Giddy dot com under
hot links so Washington Post piece, and it'll be right
next to the fabulous Feminization of America essay that we
(24:24):
were talking about to an hour two of the show.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Speaking of coffee, I just bought a new fancy, really
fancy coffee machine. I don't drink, so I can't like
get into wine or craft beer or scotch or any
of the things that some other people get into or cigars,
you know, for variety of reasons, but coffee. So I
(24:46):
bought this fancy coffee machine because sometimes when I go
to a fancy restaurant and they get I get a
cup of coffee, it's just so damn much.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Better than what I usually drink. Oh yeah, yeah, real difference.
And so I bought this fancy coffee machine. I get
it on Friday.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
I'll let you I found I used one because they're
ridiculously Expensivet's see if I actually end up using in
her liking and it might just be a sad, desperate
attempt as a full time single parent to find joy
in my life.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
But or maybe I will really like coffee and use
it every day. I have Jack Arms Tromp loves coffee.
What's that was that just produced like in the last
fifteen seconds? And what did that accomplish? What does that mean? Yes,
Hanson had that Hanson, do your job, all right, quit
(25:34):
screwing around. Sure, but that added to the conversation. Yeah.
I took a look at some of the fancy machines
because my youngest daughter and I like to go out
for a latte when she's in town, that sort of thing. Uh,
And I think, wow, I really like those. Maybe it'd
be nice in the afternoon, but not with the milk
and the cleaning. See I got it.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
See I did a lot of research on this with
the help of chat GPT, comparing different thing completely no
milk thing. No, I'm not drinking milks. I don't drink
milk drinks. So yeah, because the cleanup what I didn't want,
because I've been at people's houses before that. I'll make
you one, and it takes them like fifteen minutes to
get it all set up. Then they make you a
little shout of espresso. Then I watched them clean for
like a half an hour, and I thought, I don't
want to do that.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
I have no interest in that. So I got the
whatever self cleaning something or other. Whatever. Well, I'll see
if I like it, or I send me to copy
that and paste that to a text. I'd like to
see what you went with.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
I'll see if I again desperate attempt to make myself
happy with commercial items.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, I was buying a storm.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
I needed to get a new computer for my son
the other day and I was trying to compare various things.
I gave chat GPT, I told chat GPT, I did
the same thing on groc and Claude said, this is
what my son does with it a computer, this is
the game he wants, wants what kind of computer should get.
And it started comparing and contrasting and strengths and weaknesses
and asking me questions and narrowing it down and saying
this would be overkill, so don't.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Buy that, baba. It was amazing, absolutely amazing. It would
have taken me hours to do that kind of research
on my own. Yeah, I've done a couple of things
like that lately, and it's just absolutely stunning. It's funny
because you know that. And we were talking about the
differences between men and women during our two in general,
and you know, guys knowing things and being able to
do things is how we have status. But now everybody
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knows everything. If you master the rather easy art of
using AI systems, now it helps that you know what
to ask and how to ask, but really not much.
So now everybody knows everything.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
I was watching all these videos about espresso beans versus
coffee beans and how long after they've been roasted you
should use them, and I thought, I was thinking the
whole time, it's amazing what human beings will do to
avoid like thinking about their actual lives.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Whether you get into this or that or whatever it is,
it's just yeah, yeah, we need our enthusiasms. Yeah, what
are you going to do? Citrou on contemplate to you know, death.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
All the time or a point of life. That's a
good point too. My only supposed to think about parenting
and mortality or can Sometimes I get brought up in
you know, researching a new bicycle or a coffeemaker or whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Life is short and hard and there's a lot of pain.
So if you find something that makes you happy, if
it doesn't hurt somebody else, do it. I'll end on
that that's really good.
Speaker 8 (28:21):
The Armstrong and Getty Show, Yeah, or Jack your show
podcasts and our Hot Lakes and.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
The arm Strong and Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Katie brought us this. Katie.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Katie's the most exercising person on the show, probably although
we all work out regularly. That's why we all look
so fantastic. But the headline being running noses, black toenails
and coorgasms, which I can't wait to get to. Seven
weird ailments that I can exercise can trigger. I think
some of these you've heard of and know about. I
didn't know about this one. I've never had it happen.
Getting a metallic taste.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
In your mouth. You ever had that happen before?
Speaker 5 (29:03):
I don't think I have, caused by an increase in
heart rate and blood pressure that occurs if you exercise
really really hard, breaks delicate blood vessels in your nose,
and then you got a little bit of blood dripping
back into the back of your throat and you're tasting blood.
And that's why you get a metallic taste in your
mouth sometimes for your exercise.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Hard h. I haven't had that happen.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
It's elite cyclists and ultra marathons or any of us
elite cyclists or ultra marathoners.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
No, we are not. Yeah, I was close for my
age group there for a couple of years when I
was mountain biking like a maniac with Craig the healthcare guru.
But yeah, anyway, get to coorgasms. Are you ready for
this one?
Speaker 8 (29:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Oh? Bleeding from the anus and nipples? Whoa simultaneously. Oh
it's a long day.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
Oh Joe, I can't help noticing, but you are. I
feel like you ought to get to a doctor. I agree,
it's going out of both ends.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Anyway.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
I've had the one, but not the The nipple thing
is common for anybody who runs long distances. If you
forget to pull, if you forget to either put vascline
on your nipples or band aids on your nipples, you
will end up with bleeding nipples.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
So painful distance running, Oh yeah, anything like half marathon
or longer. That is going to happen. That's just part
of life. I don't run, so not a problem we women,
pretty much.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
I think it's mostly a guy thing. Women with a
tight sports bras keeping things in place. But is this
just from your shirt content? Yes, your shirt.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Going illy down? Yeah, out it does. And it feels
like somebody took a lighter and put a flame right
to your nipple. Oh yeah, seriously, I would tell all secrets.
What do you want to know?
Speaker 5 (30:38):
As far as the southern end of the northbound mule
on this, So, the gastro intestinal tract receives about twenty
five percent of the blood from the heart, but during
exercise it drops by eighty percent, so it ain't getting
no blood to do its thing. This causes a short
term lack of oxygen to your You know, you're the
(30:58):
part of your body that's figuring out a exit your food.
When the blood flow returns to normal after a run,
the increased flow can hit the vessels all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
It's like a dam breaking or whatever. Then you got
the being from the A. It can happen on you. Wow,
oh yeah, to be from your A.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
It's usually not a horrible problem, but you know, people
don't know that that could happen, and you get concerned.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I would get concerned, too, concerned. Concerned don't be getting
to describe it. I'd be worried as hell, terrified. I'm
on my way to the e R honey, meet me there.
Why I'm being from my A and my ends all
the same time?
Speaker 8 (31:39):
Oh geez?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
What next? Rash? Is common blackened toenails?
Speaker 5 (31:43):
I think anybody has heard of that with people who
runners toenail, people who do a lot of running. That's
never happened to me. It canna happen with tennis players,
people who dance a lot, anything like that. It's just
basically just jamming your toes up the end of your
shoe too many times. Okay, running nose. I get a
running nose when I exercise. Sometimes happens with people. It's
one of your body's protective mechanisms. It's on the offense
(32:05):
when it feels like it's under stressed and it starts
to run. Red eyes can happen if you're lifting heavyweight
you burst a vessel in your eye. I haven't had
that happen.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Happing at a gym one time when I was there,
guy was lifting weights and he just turned around and
his eye was like, ah, that happened to you. Good
loss you look I'm a little too heavy there. And
then finally number seven, This is the one everybody's been
waiting for. Coorgasms.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
For some people, exercise can lead to an exercise induced orgasm,
or what they call a coorgasm. While abdominal and core
muscle exercises are common triggers, they aren't the only exercise
that can induce one. Some people have reported to experience
one while cycling, weightlifting, running, doing yoga, or even walking walking.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
That'd be awesome, go for a walk, whatever the opposite
of that is. That's what I have. It'd be awesome
to go for a walk. Is ah, those are the
noises I make. In case you were wondering, Oh great,
very good, very good. That will haunt my dreams. I
need to know.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
I wonder how many people that happens with, Like one
in a million. Has it happened once ever to a
human being?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Or there are a lot of people in the gym
that are going out over there, and I don't even know.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
You got earbuds in. You don't know, right, I got
the earbuds in. I don't hear them moaning.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
You said, this happens during which exercises.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Usually anything that's core related. That's what they call it
a coorgasm. You said cycling though, right, cycling can do
it that you know, you got the seat.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Maybe that's the only one that's drinking any Not for dudes. Well, yeah,
trust me, women tend to experience them more than men.
Uh so you'd have you'd know more about this. So
noney of your friends have ever mentioned, wow, I really
really got off during the gym today. No, that conversation
has never happened in my circle of friends twice in
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the history of mankind. But they just wanted to get
you to click because I'm getting that ceiling more like
corchure or corgany well.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
And doorphins in general are orgasm accelerators, So if you,
you know, are getting close, that makes it more likely
to happen. I guess I just in general, people who
feel good while they're exercising, I wish I had that.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
I don't. I feel good after I work out, always do,
always feel great, so happy I did it, feeling strong
and young and vibrants and all those words. But rant,
how you doing today? Joe vibrant, but during it, I
hate it. I've never had a runners high in my life.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Every step plotting, jolting, every bit of my brain wishing
I was dead every step not Oh this is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
I'm floating along and so we wait to forget my troubles.
I enjoy weightlifting, but all cardio can just go straight
to hell. I hate it. I hate it.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
The only thing to say me Katie was putting the
iPad up there and watching news shows. I'm gonna watch anyway.
Yeah I did that on the elliptical or what happened,
you know, I'll watch sports. Sports the best thing to
do during cardio because you get these shots of adrenaline
and gas and you get after. It works really good
with planks.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
I've started putting my little cell phone down right in
front of my face and putting something on the video
that I can kind of get lost in.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Otherwise it's like I'm counting the seconds. Yeah, well it's
a it's a shame. We're running out of time. We're
not going to get to rectal prolapse and our powerlifters,
which happens now and again always. I'm feeling a cor gas.
I'm coming on. Oh god, stop it, invert your eyes.
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