June 19, 2025 • 35 mins
Hour 4 of A&G features...
- The Tucker Carlson/Ted Cruz interview & the Tucker school of bullying
- Bonus Mailbag!
- World class dickery & the Iran conflict
- Final Thoughts!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong
and Jetty and know he Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Whether you are moving closer you believe the US is
moving closer to striking Iranian nuclear facilities?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Where's your mindset on that?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Say that right? You don't seriously think I'm going to
answer that question? Will you strike the Iranian nuclear component?
And what time exactly?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Sir?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Sir? Would you strike it? Would you please inform it
so we can be there and watch. I mean, you
don't know that I'm going to even do it. You
don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I may do it, I may not do it.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I mean, nobody knows what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
A reasonably decent response, I think to what do you
think I'm gonna tell you ahead of time?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And what are we doing here? Yeah? Yeah, I mean
traditionally that was I'm afraid I can't comment on that
at this point. I left his answer better I do
too serious? What am I going to tell you? What? Yeah,
y'all tell you right away so you can be there
and watch.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
So, if you follow any news, you've probably seen some
clips of Ted Cruz being interviewed by Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It's about two hours long. I watched the.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Whole freaking thing, and except for a couple of spots,
it wasn't hard to take in. It was a combination
of interesting and entertaining. Let me see how many views
it's got on it so far? Seven million views on
his Twitter, and I know he gets multiples of that
on his own website, where it's actually a little easier
to watch, and I think YouTube has it also, so
(01:46):
I don't know what the how many it'd be double
digit millions. I'm sure it's over ten million people have
watched it already. So Tucker Carlson has a style of
arguing with people that is designed to make you insane,
(02:09):
and some of that's on display here. Let's run through
a little bit of Ted Cruz talking a Tucker.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
The reason is twofold number one is a Christian. Growing
up in Sunday School, I was taught from the Bible
those who bless Israel will be blessed, and those who
curse Israel will be cursed. And from my perspective, I
want to be on the blessing.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Side of things, of those who bless the government of Israel.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Those who bless Israel is what it says, doesn't say
the government of it as the nation of Israel.
Speaker 7 (02:37):
So that's in the Bible. As a Christian, I believe that.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Where is that?
Speaker 5 (02:41):
I can find it to you. I don't have the
scripture off the tip of mine. You pull out the
phone and use it.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
It's in Genesis.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
But so you're quoting a Bible phrase. You don't have
context for it. You don't know where in the Bible it is.
But that's like cri theology. I'm confused, what does that
even mean?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Perfect perfect example of Tucker's incredibly unfair.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
So that's your worldview. You don't know, you don't know
where in the Bible that is. You don't you know
which verse it is. But that's your.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Worldview, no context. Oh the way, I thought that was
fairly weak point by Ted Cruz. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
I agree, certainly criticize that in other ways, good faith ways,
But I agree. Let's roll on with that line, Tucker.
I'm a Christian. I want to know what you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Does where does my support for Israel come from? Number one,
Because Biblically we are commanded to support Israel.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
But number two, no, hold on.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
You're a senator and now you're throwing out theology, and
I am a Christian, I am allowed to weigh in
on this. We are commanded as Christians support the government
of Israel. We are commanded to support Israel. And what
does that mean? We're told those who bless Israel be blessed.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
But what hold on? Define Israel?
Speaker 7 (03:53):
This is important.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Are you kidding this majority Christian.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Country to define Israel? Do you not know what Israel is?
That would be the kind you have asked like forty
nine questions about.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
So that's what Genesis, that's what God is talking in
the nation of Israel. Yes, and he's so does that
the current borders the current leadership. He's talking with the
political instanity called Israel. He's talking about the nation of Israel.
Yet nations exists, and he's discussing a nation. A nation
was the people of Israel.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
He's the nation in Genesis.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Is that the same as the country run by Benjamin
Netya who raised.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yes, yes it is.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
And by the way, it's not run by Benjamin Netya,
who is a dictator.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
It's it's a democratic But he's the prime minister.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Right, but just just like you know, America is the
country run by Donald Trump, not actually the American people
elected Donald Trump.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
The same principle of sicily.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Plenty of unfair to go around, because I know, exhausting.
I don't buy Ted Cruz's the Israel of Genesis can
be transferred directly to the nation that we support sometimes
note support sometimes I mean it seems.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Like half elite.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
But you did say run by Benjamin Nett and Yahoo.
And then when he says Benjamin, I didn't say it
was a dictator.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
What of that?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Right? He implies something unmistakably, then denies vehemently that he'd
implied it a pox on both their houses. So far, well, so.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
The thing I took away mostly from it was, uh, Tucker,
going back to a number of times, we have drug
addicts dying in the streets, So why are we giving
so much money to Ukraine and Israel? And I just
do not understand that woke right point of view that
they're connected in any way, or that what is our
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obligation to drug addicts dying in the street.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I don't know. I don't even understand that. Well, there
are multiple layers of not persuasive to that number one,
it's just a plain false choice either support Ukraine or
help drug addicts in the streets. It's a false choice.
There are a thousand of million different programs, different priorities,
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different areas where waste, fraud, and abuse happened, that we
could free up the money if we if we were
motivated to. The second layer is you're making a really
good point. It's what are you gonna do? What do
you what do you so? Even if I accepted your
false choice, what's your plan? What are you gonna use
the money for?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, it's we in California have thrown tens of billions
of dollars at this and ended up with more drug
addicts on the street.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
It just strikes me as an argument for dumb people.
You want to emphasize domestic concerns over international concerns. That's
that's fine. I get that that's a perfectly sound argument.
But then or or a point of view, I happen
to disagree with it for reasons that we've stated many times.
(06:59):
You know, I'm reminded the old saying you might not
be interested in politics, but believe me, politics is interested
in you. You might not be interested in the rest
of the world. But believe me, they're interested in us
and our stuff and our freedom of navigation and our
trade and the rest of it, in our land and
our resources. And so I just what do you suggest, Well,
(07:23):
it's just it's a false choice and it's silly.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
We played this one earlier, but it is so freaking
good and it contains one of my favorite phrases that
I'll probably use the rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
They were discussing.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Tucker was accusing Ted Cruz of taking money from a
variety of lobby groups that lobby on behalf of Israel,
and so then saying Ted Cruise is in the pocket
of Israel and does their bidding.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
And that sort of thing. That's where we are on this.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
It's just interesting because what you're now describing in a
very defensive way, I will say, is foreign influence over
our politics. Now, and you began and it's so transparently
obvious to everybody. I don't know why you would be embarrassed,
but you've said that you are sincerely for Israel.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I believe you.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
I don't think you have some weird agenda you seem
to by the.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Way, Tucker, it's a very weird thing, the obsession with Israel. Well,
we're talking about for it. You're not talking about Chinese,
you're not talking about Japanese, you're not talking about the Brits,
you're not talking about the French.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
The question what about the Jews? What about the Jews?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Like I'm anti semi now.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
Senator, you're just in the JEWETU Tucker.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
You're asking why are the Jews controlling our foreign polity?
Speaker 6 (08:33):
That's what you just asked, hardly saying that, and I
have that that's exactly what you just said. Well, actually,
I can speak for myself and tell you what I
am said on behalf, not simply of myself, but on
my many Jewish friends who would have the same questions,
which is to what extent? And it's interesting you're trying
to derail my questions by following me an anti semi,
which you are.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
I did not, of course you are, and.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
And rather than be honorable enough to say it right
to my face, I are city squeezy feline way implying it. Well,
just asking questions about the Jews, I'm not questions about
the Jews.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I have. There's nothing to do with Jews or Judis
when it has to a foreign government.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
He is an Israel controlling our foreign policy. That's not
about the you said.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I'm asked. By the way, you're the one.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
That just called me I think a sleezy felie.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
And that happens really early in the two hour discussion,
so they both bring up the other person's insults regularly
through the call. You keep calling me and in I
saim I, no, I didn't you called me a sleezy feline.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah. I feel like I'm overhearing like a really bitter,
stupid argument, like it's a food court at a mall
or something. And I keep thinking, all right, I gotta go.
I can't keep listening to this. Maybe just maybe thirty
more seconds.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
There was some reason Ted Cruz was willing to engage
in this for two hours though. It's a lot to
commit to an interview, and he had to keep saying
to Tucker, look, can you be a little less condescending?
Could you be a little less snarky with everything I say?
You know, I wish we had some examples to continue
to sit there. Well, it was usually when Tucker would
(10:08):
just make noises, you know, like right, you.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Know that sort of stuff, and say, do you need
to be so snarky. Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I'm willing to talk about this as long as you
want and discuss the issues.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
But I think.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I think Ted Cruz, and I mean I'm not being
crass about this. I think he actually sees the division
in the Republican Party. He's probably going to run for
president against JD. Vance and try to get the nomination.
He finished second to Trump when he ran in sixteen.
I mean, he was the last man standing other than Trump.
(10:43):
I think he wants to continue to be able to
reach that Tucker crowd, maybe the JD. Vance crowd, while
bringing along whoever else to get the nomination. That's the
only reason I can think that he would put up
with the snarkiness and the condensation for two hours.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Did did it get to substance in a satisfying way?
At times? I mean, because what's frustrating to me and
listening to these clips is that they will touch on
an interesting point, but one or both of them, mostly Tucker,
but both of them will not. They will try to
(11:24):
score rhetorical points as opposed to saying, Okay, if I
hear you correctly, you're advocating this. Here's why where I
think you're wrong. Well, it's just sword play between the
two a couple of guys. That's not cool.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I went into it leaning toward Ted Cruz anyway, and
I don't I definitely don't always agree with Ted Cruz.
When he first came on the scene, read from his book,
thought it was fantastic, but then he got corrupted by
you know, DC and everything that happens where you got
to start playing the game to stay in office, and
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he's done all kinds of things that I hate.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
But I was on his side going into this interview.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
So and it felt to me like any attempt to
get to any substance.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Always got derailed by Tucker. Tucker is the greatest at
baiting you into tangents on things, and then you're arguing
about the tangent, right, He's like, you know, getting back
to the sword fighting a metaphor and I mean that literally. Uh.
He senses when you are at all a rhetorical threat
(12:30):
to you, and that's when he employs his various trickery.
What do you mean by threat if you're just threatening me?
Is that what you're doing is what you're doing threat? Well,
you just said threat, would you like to rewind the tape.
And by the way, why are you being so defensive?
All of a sudden, You've gotten very, very defensive, And
I just wonder I must have hit a hot spot
(12:52):
with you or something to be so defensive and then
to threaten me. You're a graduate of the Tucker Carlson
school of bullying. He's really skillful, all of them. I
was just I was taking all that in and thinking
this would be so easy to do, and so then
right there, you'd be defending yourself for the next five minutes.
I didn't threaten you, you just did. I think we
all heard it. We all heard you threaten me well,
(13:16):
and not only that, I don't even remember what we
were talking. Yes, exactly, yes, wow, he is so good
at that. Well done. And then he constantly why are
you getting so defensive? I'm just I'm just I'm curious.
I'm just because you're attacking me over and over again. Dull.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
He just called I think a sleazy feline.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Right, Oh my god, it'd be easy to do. If
you want to make enemies for life.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
It would be very easy to engage in conversations like
that with your friends.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
In years since you've been punched in the face, and
you think that might be enjoyable. Right, more on the way,
are you like Tucker? You stay here?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I was looking at the text line. A number of
people really enjoyed my Tucker Carlson impersonation. It's very easy
to do. You just pick a word or a phrase,
you take it out of context, you try to put
them on the defensive, and you get really really quiet
and contemplative while they get madder and madder and.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Hop from angled angled, angle right right, so nobody can
follow what you're even talking about, and then you laugh
like that. So on a related topic, we got an email,
a number of emails about the decision whether to join
Israel in attacking Aroun's nuclear program. That sort of thing,
including justin the truck driver got a lot of attention,
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had a handful of emails in reaction to that, including
this from Frank now Our two yesterday he aired an
anti Semitic and ageist screed from a listener. I know
you aired it in an effort to demonstrate you listen
to a variety of points of view, which is not
a bad thing to do. Well, that's only part of
the reason we read it. It was also partly just
to let you or that point of view to know
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what we're dealing with. But in this case, I think
you went too far. His Odie's views, totally void of
logic and historical context and informed by hatred, did not
deserve your platform. Thank you for your input. Frank Justin,
the truck driver from Sacramento responds in a way with
a follow up wisdom of under thirty people explained because
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they know better than older people. The Internet, for all
its problems, has done one thing very well, open up
the marketplace of ideas. Previously taboo subjects like Zionism and
Jewish power are openly discussed. Boomers and younger Gen xers
are reflexively allergic to this topic and instantly becomes snowflakes,
calling anyone who talks about this subject hateful, anti Semitic,
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and Nazis. And then he goes on for a couple
of paragraphs explaining how the Jews seek to control the other,
the entire earth and actually hate Christians in the United States. Oh,
if that's not what anti Semitic is, I'm not sure
what the term means.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I got this ze guy complaining about us yesterday kept
calling this bomers.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
We are gen xers. Yes, proudly so, Robin Beautiful Kentucky writes,
Justin asserts that men under thirty have a clearer understanding
the boomer. Then Boomer's an older gen x of the
state which the world currently finds it Selfie then goes
on unto subtly to doubt what I consider the basis
of most deep state and puppet master conspiracy theories, the
protocols of the Elders of Zion, the fake document of
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the supposed Jewish plot to take over the world. And
I would say that he's right in that people, not
just men under thirty, are more susceptible to such nonsense
because they're raised with the Internet, which makes such garbage
easily available to the weak minded. Before the Internet, one
would actually have to seek out such information. But now,
with just a couple of clicks, you can sit in
front of a screen and have all the twaddle you
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want fed directly to you. It's truly sad that these
people think of themselves as being open minded or in
the know, when reality they're just tools for content creators
to get clicks. Woo twattle.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I say, here's a little breaking news if it's true,
CNN says Steve Bannet was seen walking into the White
House this morning. Who would be talking to Steve Bannon.
It's almost gotta be Trump, right, Probably he wants the
Bannon point of view on all this. If he takes
the Bannon point of view, we ain't bombing might be
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the opposite.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Stay tuned, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
I'm asking about your allegation in the Prime Minister of
Israel's allegation that.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
Killing terrorists is a good thing. Killing people are trying
to murder Americans is a good thing because if you're
America first, you want to protect Americans. So taking up
killing O'samovan Laden was a fantastic But you don't believe
that they're trying to murder Trump?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Or yes't it? Yes? But why aren't you calling for
military action against Tehran right now?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Because they're not very effective in terms of hitmen. They're hitmen,
are not very effective, I do think so.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
They're hitman, but not the bad kind, the efficient cond
What they're saying.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
That they're a weak country who is on its knees,
and I think we need.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
To and why are we so afraid of them? Why
are they the biggest threat if they're a week tree that's.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
On sneeze because they're trying trying to keep track, they're
trying to develop. Be a little less snarky. I know
you're right, that is a problem that I have. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Katie your response. He's just such a dick He's good
at it.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Ted did a good job of staying pretty calm through
the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
That is world class dickery right there. I mean, I
thought it.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Was a decent point Tucker was making. So it got
into the hole and net Yahoo the other day saying
Iran was behind two assassination attempts on Donald Trump. And
when I heard that, I thought, what, No, they weren't.
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And then he kind of fudged it a little when
he was asked about that Iran has been trying to
kill Don Trump. That is true and is known, but
they weren't find those two attacks.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
But so I heard that exchange. Yeah, net Yao, who
was trying to hint darkly but it didn't happen, didn't
come on.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
But then so Ted Cruz and Tucker got into that
conversation and Ted crew said, yes, it's well known Iran
is trying to kill the president of the United States
and has you know, has sent people over probably in
the United States. And Tucker's thing was, if they're trying
to kill the president the United States and we know that,
why aren't we bombing them already? I mean, you talk
about an act of war, you're trying to kill the
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president of the United States.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
So that that's what that whole conversation was about. Right, Yeah,
fair enough, But again, no, I'm not even going to
engage in his bad faith arguments, so waste of time.
Could you be a little less snarky? He said, yeah,
you're right, I probably. Yeah. That was an utterly insincere
apology too. It was it was more sarcasm, more snark obnoxious.
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So you were, as we went to break the last segment,
concerned that, Yeah, so Bannon's a trip to the White
House might portend what two interesting things.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
So Tucker mentions in his two hour long interview with
Ted Cruz that I listened to the whole thing of they
got into who likes Trump the most? And Tucker said,
I talked to him last night for a long time,
and I thought, wow, that's interesting. So that was Monday
or Tuesday night. He was on the phone with Trump,
who called him kookie Tucker Carlson, and then the CNN's
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reporting that Steve Bannon was seen walking into the White.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
House this morning.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
I assume to talk to Trump. I don't know who
else would be talking to Steve Bannon. So is Trump
looking for a final Hey, Steve Bannon, explain to me
why this is a bad idea from somebody?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Or no, the opposite. So Trump is not looking for
advice from those people. He's telling him what time it is.
In a situation where Marjorie Taylor Green and AOC are
singing from the same page of music, which is really something,
and President Trump's political bait is at least somewhat divided
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over the prospect that the US could join Israel's assault.
The White House is trying to tamp that down. In
a recent days, White House officials have quietly reached out
to MAGA influencers, according to people familiar, aiming to explain
Trump's possible shift away from a diplomatic solution. They're trying
to get them on the reservation.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Okay, So he was talking to Tucker Carls on the
phone to say, look, Tucker, this is why we got
to do it.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Right, and you got to quit your yap. And you
think he's doing the same with Steve Bannon this morning. Yeah,
I suspect so yeah, and I'll bet he or jdvans
Er somebody is hammer and MTG two.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
So you said that they're singing from the same playbook,
but you didn't say what their song is. They're both
Marjorie Taylor Green and AOC against bombing Iran.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, don't get involved in a Middle Eastern war. Yeah. Indeed,
in fact, MTG I can't remember what she looks like.
Do you have any police line bad built bush body?
Oh that's her, right, She tweeted the other day. Anyone
slobbering for the US to become fully involved in the
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Israel Iran war is not America first slash MAGA appearing
on Matt Gates television show Wait a minute, Matt Gates
has a television show anyway, So when the kids get
out of school, oh boy, uh da da da, Green
said a Middle Eastern war will pull America back twenty years.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I am pretty amazed by the people that are willing
to believe that MAGA is its own separate thing where
you can bad mouth Trump's decisions and we're our own
power base. I don't think that's true. I guess we'll
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find out in the next couple of years. I think
Maggot is Trump.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I would disagree subtly. I think it is a fairly
cohesive interest group or a group of voters and writers
and thinkers in the same way like the open Border's
crowd is. And I'm not saying one is as big
as the other, bigger or whatever, or the gay rights
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crowd is, or it's a belief it's a belief system.
It's kind of I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
I guess we'll see in coming elections. I don't think
they'll win any elections. Well, they haven't when unless Trump
is on the ticket to bring that crowd along. It's
like Obama. I mean, Obama could win elections because he
was so popular, but nobody could nobody when he wasn't
on the ticket.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
It didn't make any difference. Yeah. Yeah. By the way,
the White House also reached out to Charlie Kirk conservative
activist Bannon clearly and in this article, I'm looking at mentions.
Mark Levin doesn't mention Ben Shapiro, but I know a
lot of your woke write types say, yeah, those people
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are just spouting the talking points of the Jews because
they're about Israel. They're not about the United States, which
is a hell of a thing to say about Mark
Levin for instance. Also, and you know what, I've got
to be fair, Matt Gates, in talking to MTG said
President Trump rescued the Republican Party from the doom of
neo conservatism. I think it's a fair question to ask
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those folks who want to entangle themselves in an Iranian war,
what's your plan for the day after?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Yeah, that's always a good one, that's absolutely necessary.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Sometimes people ask questions like they're rhetorical questions. It's not
a rhetorical question. It's a fine question, and I think
Trump would be willing to answer it. I think the
question is less.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Needed now than it was a obviously Iraq or you know,
you know, eliminating Hamas and Gaza, then who's going to
run it. You can't let Iran get a nuclear weapon,
the end is I think Trump's opinion in my opinion
on that, And yeah, looking at the next day is
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a very good idea, and should plan is best you can.
But no matter what the answer to that is, they
can't have a nuclear weapon. You can't let them have
a nuclear weapon because you haven't answered the question what's next?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Right. It reminds me in a weird way of our
discussion through the decades about illegal immigration, and especially back
in the day in cal Unicornia, people would say, as
if they're asking a rhetorical question and a powerful, devastating question. Yeah,
who's going to pick the lettuce? And we crafted the
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answer somebody or nobody or a machine. If lettuce picking
is the tail that wags the entire dog of the
United States, were screwed. You've got to enforce the law.
The one non negotiable is we've got to have coherent
immigration policy and we've got to follow it. And if
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it ends up that nobody picks the lettuce and we
all have to eat kale instead, or let us just
triple the expense or whatever, that's just the one possibility
or the one option is untenable. It's unacceptable. That is
what we meant. Same way, the one unacceptable option is
the freaking Mullahs having a nuclear bomb and the desire
(26:41):
to wipe out humanity in the name of their Islamist vision.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Well, first of all, some of you probably remember my
one man play, A World without Lettuce.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
It was.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
It ran briefly, it closed very quickly. It just didn't
catch on. I think it needed some songs.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I urge you to rewrite. I should have made it
as musical and retro as opposed to. Yeah, so that's
interesting that Trump feels like he needs to convince Steve
Bannon and Tucker Carlson before he does this. I wrote
you a song Bacon, Nothing and Tomato, which you rejected.
(27:19):
I'll remind you the BNT. Yes, I'll have a BNT
where And this is the moment in the show Joe
could no longer talk about this stuff seriously.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Right, Yeah, that's true. But uh hmm, interesting, I'll be darned.
Trump has been risked on both the risks and benefits
of bombing fodoh, according to CBS News, Yeah, I assumed that,
and his mindset is that disabling it is necessary because
of the risk of weapons being produced in a relatively
short period of time. Sources say, so he seems to
(27:55):
have been he's completely convinced.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Oh that's right. I'm sorry. I had one more thing
I wanted to throw in about Steve Bennon, specifically, He
said yesterday that Trump really needs to articulate his views
not just a MAGA but to the American people of
why we would get involved in another war over there
as a combatant. So that was Bennon sending a message
to Trump, who apparently, excuse me, called for Bennon to
(28:21):
come to the White House to talk to him. But
Bannon also said this, and this is yesterday before coming
to the White House today. He called on supporters to
pray for Trump, and he predicted that the MAGA movement
wouldn't fully splinter over ran quote. We don't like it,
maybe we hate it, but you know, we'll get on board.
He said, Oh that was pretty get along, ye by
(28:44):
his standards. Yeah, yeah, there will be no mutiny on
the good ship MAGA. According to Steve Bannon, did he
walk into the White House looking like a half a
homeless person? Probably? Yeah, we will finish wrong next.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Whoopie Goldberg on the View just said black people in
America have it as bad as women in Iran. So
that's helpful on this Juneteenth. Why she's a moron, she's
mon or she's being deliberately provocative in a really not
healthy way.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Does she need the money or the attention. I don't know.
It's on. Speaking of getting attention, Tulsy Gabberd, who I
have called a crackpot, among other things, a clip of
her from a hearing congressional hearing in March was getting
a lot of attention this week in which she essentially denied.
She said, according to intelligence, Iran does not have a
(29:47):
nuke or blah blah, we're not to play it for you, right,
we're about to play it for you. But then the
clip generally after about eighteen seconds ends, and what she
said next I thought was really interesting too. So this
is both halves of it together.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
The ICY continues to assess that Iran is not building
a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Kamani has not authorized
the nuclear weapons program that he suspended in two thousand
and three. The ICY continues to monitor closely if Tehran
decides to reauthorize its nuclear weapons program. In the past year,
we've seen an erosion of a decade's long taboo in
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Iran on discussing nuclear weapons in public, likely emboldening nuclear
weapons advocates within Iran's decision making apparatus. Iran's enriched uranium
stockpile is at its highest levels and is unprecedented for
a state without nuclear weapons.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Hm, that is interesting. Why did people leave that It's
not as dramatic. Maybe they were trying to say, I
don't know. They might have had a couple of different purposes.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
And was that for the crowd that's trying to work,
they're not close to a nuke, that's just Netanyahu trying
to stay in office crowd.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yes, yeah, But and then the crowd that thinks Tulsey's
a crackpot and or shouldn't be in the administration floated
that to look at the division within Trump world.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Well, but in reality, her boss, the President, was asked
what he thought of what she had to say, and
he said, I don't care what she thinks. And she
wasn't in. She isn't in these security meetings. You don't
have your director of National Intelligence in the big meetings.
That is a heck of a deal. I don't know
how you don't resign under those circumstances.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, yeah, me too. I don't know what the DNI
does day to day.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
It is a is another layer added after nine to
eleven unnecessary. People always think you got to fix things
with more layers of people in government and offices.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I don't know that it's unnecessary. There's definitely the danger
of what you're suggesting, but it could be like ten people.
And just because it's an umbrella organization meant to make
sure that the CIA is sharing with the FBI, who
is sharing with the NSA, was sharing with the d
i A make sure they're not siloed. Stove piping Jack described,
(32:12):
others have described it.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
I was listening to Ken Pollock being interviewed, and he's
been in the intelligence agencies forever. I was listening to
him on a podcast yesterday and it came up and
he said, the DNA d and I was created. It
doesn't really have a purpose. It's it's it's hard to
figure out what they're supposed to be doing.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
So right, that's what I thought, and I was glad
to hear him say that. It's funny. I forgot my
own point. I was driving toward the idea that, you know,
maybe he doesn't need Tulsi Gabbard in the meetings because
she's not the CIA. She's just the person who makes
sure the CIA is sharing with the FBON. Right, so
you have the CIA and the FBI in.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
There, Yeah, that makes sense. Of course, having the president
say I don't care what you think.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
This is not a good looks. I'm strong, You're ready.
Katie Green's strong.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
I mean I've been told I don't care what you think,
and I found it hurtful.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. Hey, let's
get a final thought from everybody on the crew, because
we care what they think deeply. Let's begin with Michaelangelo
or technical director. Michael final thought, Yes, support your kids
lemonade stands.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
Anytime I see a little lemonade stand in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I pull over Igimo dollar two.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
So I will say, though, the quality of lemonade is
always suspect.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
So I've had some good stuff and I've had stuff
that I've had to spit out the windows.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
When Henry did his a couple of years ago, him
and his buddy, they were fresh squeezed, actual lemons from
the trees.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
It was really good. Oh gimme, Katie Green are esteemed duswoman.
As a final thought, Katie, I think you guys will
be thrilled to know that the band name Ambiguous Genitalia
is up for grabs, not taken yet let's kick out
the jams. Huh jack. A final thought, how long well
my son and I last at a Dodgers game when
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neither one of us are that interested? Do you think
there's enough of the old ballpark just between the food
and the vibe to keep you entertained for a while? Sure?
Watching people watching? Yeah, you're exactly right, I would hope.
So I have two final thoughts. This is unprecedented. Number One,
I've called Telsea Gabbert to crank, definition and eccentric person,
especially one who was obsessed by a particular subject or theory. Okay,
(34:26):
I see is a crank. And also, streaming is king
May this past May last month, first time ever Americans
watching television being streamed outnumbered cable and network TV combined.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
I'm actually surprised he took this long for that line
to be crossed. Armstrong and Getty rare. I think about
another grueling four hour workday.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
So many people thanks a little time go to Armstrong
Egeddy dot com. A lot of great clicks there for you.
Trust me on that. Will we be at war by
this time tomorrow? God bless America. I'm strong and Getty.
There are two ways to look at this Where shade
are you? This is a national emergency. Come on, you weenies,
(35:11):
grow up.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
Okay for those of you that don't understand.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Okay, let me say. Let me say one thing.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
You're a senator who's calling them about the country.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
No, you don't know anything about the country yet I know.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Thank you for your attention to this matter. Armstrong and
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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Whether you are moving closer you believe the US is
moving closer to striking Iranian nuclear facilities?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Where's your mindset on that?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Say that right? You don't seriously think I'm going to
answer that question? Will you strike the Iranian nuclear component?
And what time exactly?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Sir?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Sir? Would you strike it? Would you please inform it
so we can be there and watch. I mean, you
don't know that I'm going to even do it. You
don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I may do it, I may not do it.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I mean, nobody knows what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
A reasonably decent response, I think to what do you
think I'm gonna tell you ahead of time?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And what are we doing here? Yeah? Yeah, I mean
traditionally that was I'm afraid I can't comment on that
at this point. I left his answer better I do
too serious? What am I going to tell you? What? Yeah,
y'all tell you right away so you can be there
and watch.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
So, if you follow any news, you've probably seen some
clips of Ted Cruz being interviewed by Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It's about two hours long. I watched the.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Whole freaking thing, and except for a couple of spots,
it wasn't hard to take in. It was a combination
of interesting and entertaining. Let me see how many views
it's got on it so far? Seven million views on
his Twitter, and I know he gets multiples of that
on his own website, where it's actually a little easier
to watch, and I think YouTube has it also, so
(01:46):
I don't know what the how many it'd be double
digit millions. I'm sure it's over ten million people have
watched it already. So Tucker Carlson has a style of
arguing with people that is designed to make you insane,
(02:09):
and some of that's on display here. Let's run through
a little bit of Ted Cruz talking a Tucker.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
The reason is twofold number one is a Christian. Growing
up in Sunday School, I was taught from the Bible
those who bless Israel will be blessed, and those who
curse Israel will be cursed. And from my perspective, I
want to be on the blessing.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Side of things, of those who bless the government of Israel.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Those who bless Israel is what it says, doesn't say
the government of it as the nation of Israel.
Speaker 7 (02:37):
So that's in the Bible. As a Christian, I believe that.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Where is that?
Speaker 5 (02:41):
I can find it to you. I don't have the
scripture off the tip of mine. You pull out the
phone and use it.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
It's in Genesis.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
But so you're quoting a Bible phrase. You don't have
context for it. You don't know where in the Bible it is.
But that's like cri theology. I'm confused, what does that
even mean?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Perfect perfect example of Tucker's incredibly unfair.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
So that's your worldview. You don't know, you don't know
where in the Bible that is. You don't you know
which verse it is. But that's your.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Worldview, no context. Oh the way, I thought that was
fairly weak point by Ted Cruz. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
I agree, certainly criticize that in other ways, good faith ways,
But I agree. Let's roll on with that line, Tucker.
I'm a Christian. I want to know what you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Does where does my support for Israel come from? Number one,
Because Biblically we are commanded to support Israel.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
But number two, no, hold on.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
You're a senator and now you're throwing out theology, and
I am a Christian, I am allowed to weigh in
on this. We are commanded as Christians support the government
of Israel. We are commanded to support Israel. And what
does that mean? We're told those who bless Israel be blessed.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
But what hold on? Define Israel?
Speaker 7 (03:53):
This is important.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Are you kidding this majority Christian.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Country to define Israel? Do you not know what Israel is?
That would be the kind you have asked like forty
nine questions about.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
So that's what Genesis, that's what God is talking in
the nation of Israel. Yes, and he's so does that
the current borders the current leadership. He's talking with the
political instanity called Israel. He's talking about the nation of Israel.
Yet nations exists, and he's discussing a nation. A nation
was the people of Israel.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
He's the nation in Genesis.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Is that the same as the country run by Benjamin
Netya who raised.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yes, yes it is.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
And by the way, it's not run by Benjamin Netya,
who is a dictator.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
It's it's a democratic But he's the prime minister.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Right, but just just like you know, America is the
country run by Donald Trump, not actually the American people
elected Donald Trump.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
The same principle of sicily.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Plenty of unfair to go around, because I know, exhausting.
I don't buy Ted Cruz's the Israel of Genesis can
be transferred directly to the nation that we support sometimes
note support sometimes I mean it seems.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Like half elite.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
But you did say run by Benjamin Nett and Yahoo.
And then when he says Benjamin, I didn't say it
was a dictator.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
What of that?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Right? He implies something unmistakably, then denies vehemently that he'd
implied it a pox on both their houses. So far, well, so.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
The thing I took away mostly from it was, uh, Tucker,
going back to a number of times, we have drug
addicts dying in the streets, So why are we giving
so much money to Ukraine and Israel? And I just
do not understand that woke right point of view that
they're connected in any way, or that what is our
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obligation to drug addicts dying in the street.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I don't know. I don't even understand that. Well, there
are multiple layers of not persuasive to that number one,
it's just a plain false choice either support Ukraine or
help drug addicts in the streets. It's a false choice.
There are a thousand of million different programs, different priorities,
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different areas where waste, fraud, and abuse happened, that we
could free up the money if we if we were
motivated to. The second layer is you're making a really
good point. It's what are you gonna do? What do
you what do you so? Even if I accepted your
false choice, what's your plan? What are you gonna use
the money for?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, it's we in California have thrown tens of billions
of dollars at this and ended up with more drug
addicts on the street.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
It just strikes me as an argument for dumb people.
You want to emphasize domestic concerns over international concerns. That's
that's fine. I get that that's a perfectly sound argument.
But then or or a point of view, I happen
to disagree with it for reasons that we've stated many times.
(06:59):
You know, I'm reminded the old saying you might not
be interested in politics, but believe me, politics is interested
in you. You might not be interested in the rest
of the world. But believe me, they're interested in us
and our stuff and our freedom of navigation and our
trade and the rest of it, in our land and
our resources. And so I just what do you suggest, Well,
(07:23):
it's just it's a false choice and it's silly.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
We played this one earlier, but it is so freaking
good and it contains one of my favorite phrases that
I'll probably use the rest of my life.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
They were discussing.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Tucker was accusing Ted Cruz of taking money from a
variety of lobby groups that lobby on behalf of Israel,
and so then saying Ted Cruise is in the pocket
of Israel and does their bidding.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
And that sort of thing. That's where we are on this.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
It's just interesting because what you're now describing in a
very defensive way, I will say, is foreign influence over
our politics. Now, and you began and it's so transparently
obvious to everybody. I don't know why you would be embarrassed,
but you've said that you are sincerely for Israel.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I believe you.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
I don't think you have some weird agenda you seem
to by the.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Way, Tucker, it's a very weird thing, the obsession with Israel. Well,
we're talking about for it. You're not talking about Chinese,
you're not talking about Japanese, you're not talking about the Brits,
you're not talking about the French.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
The question what about the Jews? What about the Jews?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Like I'm anti semi now.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
Senator, you're just in the JEWETU Tucker.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
You're asking why are the Jews controlling our foreign polity?
Speaker 6 (08:33):
That's what you just asked, hardly saying that, and I
have that that's exactly what you just said. Well, actually,
I can speak for myself and tell you what I
am said on behalf, not simply of myself, but on
my many Jewish friends who would have the same questions,
which is to what extent? And it's interesting you're trying
to derail my questions by following me an anti semi,
which you are.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
I did not, of course you are, and.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
And rather than be honorable enough to say it right
to my face, I are city squeezy feline way implying it. Well,
just asking questions about the Jews, I'm not questions about
the Jews.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
I have. There's nothing to do with Jews or Judis
when it has to a foreign government.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
He is an Israel controlling our foreign policy. That's not
about the you said.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I'm asked. By the way, you're the one.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
That just called me I think a sleezy felie.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
And that happens really early in the two hour discussion,
so they both bring up the other person's insults regularly
through the call. You keep calling me and in I
saim I, no, I didn't you called me a sleezy feline.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah. I feel like I'm overhearing like a really bitter,
stupid argument, like it's a food court at a mall
or something. And I keep thinking, all right, I gotta go.
I can't keep listening to this. Maybe just maybe thirty
more seconds.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
There was some reason Ted Cruz was willing to engage
in this for two hours though. It's a lot to
commit to an interview, and he had to keep saying
to Tucker, look, can you be a little less condescending?
Could you be a little less snarky with everything I say?
You know, I wish we had some examples to continue
to sit there. Well, it was usually when Tucker would
(10:08):
just make noises, you know, like right, you.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Know that sort of stuff, and say, do you need
to be so snarky. Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I'm willing to talk about this as long as you
want and discuss the issues.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
But I think.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I think Ted Cruz, and I mean I'm not being
crass about this. I think he actually sees the division
in the Republican Party. He's probably going to run for
president against JD. Vance and try to get the nomination.
He finished second to Trump when he ran in sixteen.
I mean, he was the last man standing other than Trump.
(10:43):
I think he wants to continue to be able to
reach that Tucker crowd, maybe the JD. Vance crowd, while
bringing along whoever else to get the nomination. That's the
only reason I can think that he would put up
with the snarkiness and the condensation for two hours.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Did did it get to substance in a satisfying way?
At times? I mean, because what's frustrating to me and
listening to these clips is that they will touch on
an interesting point, but one or both of them, mostly Tucker,
but both of them will not. They will try to
(11:24):
score rhetorical points as opposed to saying, Okay, if I
hear you correctly, you're advocating this. Here's why where I
think you're wrong. Well, it's just sword play between the
two a couple of guys. That's not cool.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I went into it leaning toward Ted Cruz anyway, and
I don't I definitely don't always agree with Ted Cruz.
When he first came on the scene, read from his book,
thought it was fantastic, but then he got corrupted by
you know, DC and everything that happens where you got
to start playing the game to stay in office, and
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he's done all kinds of things that I hate.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
But I was on his side going into this interview.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
So and it felt to me like any attempt to
get to any substance.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Always got derailed by Tucker. Tucker is the greatest at
baiting you into tangents on things, and then you're arguing
about the tangent, right, He's like, you know, getting back
to the sword fighting a metaphor and I mean that literally. Uh.
He senses when you are at all a rhetorical threat
(12:30):
to you, and that's when he employs his various trickery.
What do you mean by threat if you're just threatening me?
Is that what you're doing is what you're doing threat? Well,
you just said threat, would you like to rewind the tape.
And by the way, why are you being so defensive?
All of a sudden, You've gotten very, very defensive, And
I just wonder I must have hit a hot spot
(12:52):
with you or something to be so defensive and then
to threaten me. You're a graduate of the Tucker Carlson
school of bullying. He's really skillful, all of them. I
was just I was taking all that in and thinking
this would be so easy to do, and so then
right there, you'd be defending yourself for the next five minutes.
I didn't threaten you, you just did. I think we
all heard it. We all heard you threaten me well,
(13:16):
and not only that, I don't even remember what we
were talking. Yes, exactly, yes, wow, he is so good
at that. Well done. And then he constantly why are
you getting so defensive? I'm just I'm just I'm curious.
I'm just because you're attacking me over and over again. Dull.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
He just called I think a sleazy feline.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Right, Oh my god, it'd be easy to do. If
you want to make enemies for life.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
It would be very easy to engage in conversations like
that with your friends.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
In years since you've been punched in the face, and
you think that might be enjoyable. Right, more on the way,
are you like Tucker? You stay here?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I was looking at the text line. A number of
people really enjoyed my Tucker Carlson impersonation. It's very easy
to do. You just pick a word or a phrase,
you take it out of context, you try to put
them on the defensive, and you get really really quiet
and contemplative while they get madder and madder and.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Hop from angled angled, angle right right, so nobody can
follow what you're even talking about, and then you laugh
like that. So on a related topic, we got an email,
a number of emails about the decision whether to join
Israel in attacking Aroun's nuclear program. That sort of thing,
including justin the truck driver got a lot of attention,
(14:40):
had a handful of emails in reaction to that, including
this from Frank now Our two yesterday he aired an
anti Semitic and ageist screed from a listener. I know
you aired it in an effort to demonstrate you listen
to a variety of points of view, which is not
a bad thing to do. Well, that's only part of
the reason we read it. It was also partly just
to let you or that point of view to know
(15:02):
what we're dealing with. But in this case, I think
you went too far. His Odie's views, totally void of
logic and historical context and informed by hatred, did not
deserve your platform. Thank you for your input. Frank Justin,
the truck driver from Sacramento responds in a way with
a follow up wisdom of under thirty people explained because
(15:23):
they know better than older people. The Internet, for all
its problems, has done one thing very well, open up
the marketplace of ideas. Previously taboo subjects like Zionism and
Jewish power are openly discussed. Boomers and younger Gen xers
are reflexively allergic to this topic and instantly becomes snowflakes,
calling anyone who talks about this subject hateful, anti Semitic,
(15:43):
and Nazis. And then he goes on for a couple
of paragraphs explaining how the Jews seek to control the other,
the entire earth and actually hate Christians in the United States. Oh,
if that's not what anti Semitic is, I'm not sure
what the term means.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
I got this ze guy complaining about us yesterday kept
calling this bomers.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
We are gen xers. Yes, proudly so, Robin Beautiful Kentucky writes,
Justin asserts that men under thirty have a clearer understanding
the boomer. Then Boomer's an older gen x of the
state which the world currently finds it Selfie then goes
on unto subtly to doubt what I consider the basis
of most deep state and puppet master conspiracy theories, the
protocols of the Elders of Zion, the fake document of
(16:23):
the supposed Jewish plot to take over the world. And
I would say that he's right in that people, not
just men under thirty, are more susceptible to such nonsense
because they're raised with the Internet, which makes such garbage
easily available to the weak minded. Before the Internet, one
would actually have to seek out such information. But now,
with just a couple of clicks, you can sit in
front of a screen and have all the twaddle you
(16:43):
want fed directly to you. It's truly sad that these
people think of themselves as being open minded or in
the know, when reality they're just tools for content creators
to get clicks. Woo twattle.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I say, here's a little breaking news if it's true,
CNN says Steve Bannet was seen walking into the White
House this morning. Who would be talking to Steve Bannon.
It's almost gotta be Trump, right, Probably he wants the
Bannon point of view on all this. If he takes
the Bannon point of view, we ain't bombing might be
(17:15):
the opposite.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Stay tuned, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
I'm asking about your allegation in the Prime Minister of
Israel's allegation that.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
Killing terrorists is a good thing. Killing people are trying
to murder Americans is a good thing because if you're
America first, you want to protect Americans. So taking up
killing O'samovan Laden was a fantastic But you don't believe
that they're trying to murder Trump?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Or yes't it? Yes? But why aren't you calling for
military action against Tehran right now?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Because they're not very effective in terms of hitmen. They're hitmen,
are not very effective, I do think so.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
They're hitman, but not the bad kind, the efficient cond
What they're saying.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
That they're a weak country who is on its knees,
and I think we need.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
To and why are we so afraid of them? Why
are they the biggest threat if they're a week tree that's.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
On sneeze because they're trying trying to keep track, they're
trying to develop. Be a little less snarky. I know
you're right, that is a problem that I have. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Katie your response. He's just such a dick He's good
at it.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Ted did a good job of staying pretty calm through
the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
That is world class dickery right there. I mean, I
thought it.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Was a decent point Tucker was making. So it got
into the hole and net Yahoo the other day saying
Iran was behind two assassination attempts on Donald Trump. And
when I heard that, I thought, what, No, they weren't.
(18:50):
And then he kind of fudged it a little when
he was asked about that Iran has been trying to
kill Don Trump. That is true and is known, but
they weren't find those two attacks.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
But so I heard that exchange. Yeah, net Yao, who
was trying to hint darkly but it didn't happen, didn't
come on.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
But then so Ted Cruz and Tucker got into that
conversation and Ted crew said, yes, it's well known Iran
is trying to kill the president of the United States
and has you know, has sent people over probably in
the United States. And Tucker's thing was, if they're trying
to kill the president the United States and we know that,
why aren't we bombing them already? I mean, you talk
about an act of war, you're trying to kill the
(19:30):
president of the United States.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
So that that's what that whole conversation was about. Right, Yeah,
fair enough, But again, no, I'm not even going to
engage in his bad faith arguments, so waste of time.
Could you be a little less snarky? He said, yeah,
you're right, I probably. Yeah. That was an utterly insincere
apology too. It was it was more sarcasm, more snark obnoxious.
(19:53):
So you were, as we went to break the last segment,
concerned that, Yeah, so Bannon's a trip to the White
House might portend what two interesting things.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
So Tucker mentions in his two hour long interview with
Ted Cruz that I listened to the whole thing of they
got into who likes Trump the most? And Tucker said,
I talked to him last night for a long time,
and I thought, wow, that's interesting. So that was Monday
or Tuesday night. He was on the phone with Trump,
who called him kookie Tucker Carlson, and then the CNN's
(20:23):
reporting that Steve Bannon was seen walking into the White.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
House this morning.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
I assume to talk to Trump. I don't know who
else would be talking to Steve Bannon. So is Trump
looking for a final Hey, Steve Bannon, explain to me
why this is a bad idea from somebody?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Or no, the opposite. So Trump is not looking for
advice from those people. He's telling him what time it is.
In a situation where Marjorie Taylor Green and AOC are
singing from the same page of music, which is really something,
and President Trump's political bait is at least somewhat divided
(21:03):
over the prospect that the US could join Israel's assault.
The White House is trying to tamp that down. In
a recent days, White House officials have quietly reached out
to MAGA influencers, according to people familiar, aiming to explain
Trump's possible shift away from a diplomatic solution. They're trying
to get them on the reservation.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Okay, So he was talking to Tucker Carls on the
phone to say, look, Tucker, this is why we got
to do it.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Right, and you got to quit your yap. And you
think he's doing the same with Steve Bannon this morning. Yeah,
I suspect so yeah, and I'll bet he or jdvans
Er somebody is hammer and MTG two.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
So you said that they're singing from the same playbook,
but you didn't say what their song is. They're both
Marjorie Taylor Green and AOC against bombing Iran.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, don't get involved in a Middle Eastern war. Yeah. Indeed,
in fact, MTG I can't remember what she looks like.
Do you have any police line bad built bush body?
Oh that's her, right, She tweeted the other day. Anyone
slobbering for the US to become fully involved in the
(22:15):
Israel Iran war is not America first slash MAGA appearing
on Matt Gates television show Wait a minute, Matt Gates
has a television show anyway, So when the kids get
out of school, oh boy, uh da da da, Green
said a Middle Eastern war will pull America back twenty years.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I am pretty amazed by the people that are willing
to believe that MAGA is its own separate thing where
you can bad mouth Trump's decisions and we're our own
power base. I don't think that's true. I guess we'll
(22:59):
find out in the next couple of years. I think
Maggot is Trump.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I would disagree subtly. I think it is a fairly
cohesive interest group or a group of voters and writers
and thinkers in the same way like the open Border's
crowd is. And I'm not saying one is as big
as the other, bigger or whatever, or the gay rights
(23:29):
crowd is, or it's a belief it's a belief system.
It's kind of I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
I guess we'll see in coming elections. I don't think
they'll win any elections. Well, they haven't when unless Trump
is on the ticket to bring that crowd along. It's
like Obama. I mean, Obama could win elections because he
was so popular, but nobody could nobody when he wasn't
on the ticket.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
It didn't make any difference. Yeah. Yeah. By the way,
the White House also reached out to Charlie Kirk conservative
activist Bannon clearly and in this article, I'm looking at mentions.
Mark Levin doesn't mention Ben Shapiro, but I know a
lot of your woke write types say, yeah, those people
(24:14):
are just spouting the talking points of the Jews because
they're about Israel. They're not about the United States, which
is a hell of a thing to say about Mark
Levin for instance. Also, and you know what, I've got
to be fair, Matt Gates, in talking to MTG said
President Trump rescued the Republican Party from the doom of
neo conservatism. I think it's a fair question to ask
(24:35):
those folks who want to entangle themselves in an Iranian war,
what's your plan for the day after?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Yeah, that's always a good one, that's absolutely necessary.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Sometimes people ask questions like they're rhetorical questions. It's not
a rhetorical question. It's a fine question, and I think
Trump would be willing to answer it. I think the
question is less.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Needed now than it was a obviously Iraq or you know,
you know, eliminating Hamas and Gaza, then who's going to
run it. You can't let Iran get a nuclear weapon,
the end is I think Trump's opinion in my opinion
on that, And yeah, looking at the next day is
(25:20):
a very good idea, and should plan is best you can.
But no matter what the answer to that is, they
can't have a nuclear weapon. You can't let them have
a nuclear weapon because you haven't answered the question what's next?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Right. It reminds me in a weird way of our
discussion through the decades about illegal immigration, and especially back
in the day in cal Unicornia, people would say, as
if they're asking a rhetorical question and a powerful, devastating question. Yeah,
who's going to pick the lettuce? And we crafted the
(25:55):
answer somebody or nobody or a machine. If lettuce picking
is the tail that wags the entire dog of the
United States, were screwed. You've got to enforce the law.
The one non negotiable is we've got to have coherent
immigration policy and we've got to follow it. And if
(26:16):
it ends up that nobody picks the lettuce and we
all have to eat kale instead, or let us just
triple the expense or whatever, that's just the one possibility
or the one option is untenable. It's unacceptable. That is
what we meant. Same way, the one unacceptable option is
the freaking Mullahs having a nuclear bomb and the desire
(26:41):
to wipe out humanity in the name of their Islamist vision.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Well, first of all, some of you probably remember my
one man play, A World without Lettuce.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
It was.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
It ran briefly, it closed very quickly. It just didn't
catch on. I think it needed some songs.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I urge you to rewrite. I should have made it
as musical and retro as opposed to. Yeah, so that's
interesting that Trump feels like he needs to convince Steve
Bannon and Tucker Carlson before he does this. I wrote
you a song Bacon, Nothing and Tomato, which you rejected.
(27:19):
I'll remind you the BNT. Yes, I'll have a BNT
where And this is the moment in the show Joe
could no longer talk about this stuff seriously.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Right, Yeah, that's true. But uh hmm, interesting, I'll be darned.
Trump has been risked on both the risks and benefits
of bombing fodoh, according to CBS News, Yeah, I assumed that,
and his mindset is that disabling it is necessary because
of the risk of weapons being produced in a relatively
short period of time. Sources say, so he seems to
(27:55):
have been he's completely convinced.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Oh that's right. I'm sorry. I had one more thing
I wanted to throw in about Steve Bennon, specifically, He
said yesterday that Trump really needs to articulate his views
not just a MAGA but to the American people of
why we would get involved in another war over there
as a combatant. So that was Bennon sending a message
to Trump, who apparently, excuse me, called for Bennon to
(28:21):
come to the White House to talk to him. But
Bannon also said this, and this is yesterday before coming
to the White House today. He called on supporters to
pray for Trump, and he predicted that the MAGA movement
wouldn't fully splinter over ran quote. We don't like it,
maybe we hate it, but you know, we'll get on board.
He said, Oh that was pretty get along, ye by
(28:44):
his standards. Yeah, yeah, there will be no mutiny on
the good ship MAGA. According to Steve Bannon, did he
walk into the White House looking like a half a
homeless person? Probably? Yeah, we will finish wrong next.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Whoopie Goldberg on the View just said black people in
America have it as bad as women in Iran. So
that's helpful on this Juneteenth. Why she's a moron, she's
mon or she's being deliberately provocative in a really not
healthy way.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Does she need the money or the attention. I don't know.
It's on. Speaking of getting attention, Tulsy Gabberd, who I
have called a crackpot, among other things, a clip of
her from a hearing congressional hearing in March was getting
a lot of attention this week in which she essentially denied.
She said, according to intelligence, Iran does not have a
(29:47):
nuke or blah blah, we're not to play it for you, right,
we're about to play it for you. But then the
clip generally after about eighteen seconds ends, and what she
said next I thought was really interesting too. So this
is both halves of it together.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
The ICY continues to assess that Iran is not building
a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Kamani has not authorized
the nuclear weapons program that he suspended in two thousand
and three. The ICY continues to monitor closely if Tehran
decides to reauthorize its nuclear weapons program. In the past year,
we've seen an erosion of a decade's long taboo in
(30:23):
Iran on discussing nuclear weapons in public, likely emboldening nuclear
weapons advocates within Iran's decision making apparatus. Iran's enriched uranium
stockpile is at its highest levels and is unprecedented for
a state without nuclear weapons.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Hm, that is interesting. Why did people leave that It's
not as dramatic. Maybe they were trying to say, I
don't know. They might have had a couple of different purposes.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
And was that for the crowd that's trying to work,
they're not close to a nuke, that's just Netanyahu trying
to stay in office crowd.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yes, yeah, But and then the crowd that thinks Tulsey's
a crackpot and or shouldn't be in the administration floated
that to look at the division within Trump world.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Well, but in reality, her boss, the President, was asked
what he thought of what she had to say, and
he said, I don't care what she thinks. And she
wasn't in. She isn't in these security meetings. You don't
have your director of National Intelligence in the big meetings.
That is a heck of a deal. I don't know
how you don't resign under those circumstances.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, yeah, me too. I don't know what the DNI
does day to day.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
It is a is another layer added after nine to
eleven unnecessary. People always think you got to fix things
with more layers of people in government and offices.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
I don't know that it's unnecessary. There's definitely the danger
of what you're suggesting, but it could be like ten people.
And just because it's an umbrella organization meant to make
sure that the CIA is sharing with the FBI, who
is sharing with the NSA, was sharing with the d
i A make sure they're not siloed. Stove piping Jack described,
(32:12):
others have described it.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
I was listening to Ken Pollock being interviewed, and he's
been in the intelligence agencies forever. I was listening to
him on a podcast yesterday and it came up and
he said, the DNA d and I was created. It
doesn't really have a purpose. It's it's it's hard to
figure out what they're supposed to be doing.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
So right, that's what I thought, and I was glad
to hear him say that. It's funny. I forgot my
own point. I was driving toward the idea that, you know,
maybe he doesn't need Tulsi Gabbard in the meetings because
she's not the CIA. She's just the person who makes
sure the CIA is sharing with the FBON. Right, so
you have the CIA and the FBI in.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
There, Yeah, that makes sense. Of course, having the president
say I don't care what you think.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
This is not a good looks. I'm strong, You're ready.
Katie Green's strong.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
I mean I've been told I don't care what you think,
and I found it hurtful.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. Hey, let's
get a final thought from everybody on the crew, because
we care what they think deeply. Let's begin with Michaelangelo
or technical director. Michael final thought, Yes, support your kids
lemonade stands.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
Anytime I see a little lemonade stand in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I pull over Igimo dollar two.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
So I will say, though, the quality of lemonade is
always suspect.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
So I've had some good stuff and I've had stuff
that I've had to spit out the windows.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
When Henry did his a couple of years ago, him
and his buddy, they were fresh squeezed, actual lemons from
the trees.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
It was really good. Oh gimme, Katie Green are esteemed duswoman.
As a final thought, Katie, I think you guys will
be thrilled to know that the band name Ambiguous Genitalia
is up for grabs, not taken yet let's kick out
the jams. Huh jack. A final thought, how long well
my son and I last at a Dodgers game when
(34:04):
neither one of us are that interested? Do you think
there's enough of the old ballpark just between the food
and the vibe to keep you entertained for a while? Sure?
Watching people watching? Yeah, you're exactly right, I would hope.
So I have two final thoughts. This is unprecedented. Number One,
I've called Telsea Gabbert to crank, definition and eccentric person,
especially one who was obsessed by a particular subject or theory. Okay,
(34:26):
I see is a crank. And also, streaming is king
May this past May last month, first time ever Americans
watching television being streamed outnumbered cable and network TV combined.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
I'm actually surprised he took this long for that line
to be crossed. Armstrong and Getty rare. I think about
another grueling four hour workday.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
So many people thanks a little time go to Armstrong
Egeddy dot com. A lot of great clicks there for you.
Trust me on that. Will we be at war by
this time tomorrow? God bless America. I'm strong and Getty.
There are two ways to look at this Where shade
are you? This is a national emergency. Come on, you weenies,
(35:11):
grow up.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
Okay for those of you that don't understand.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Okay, let me say. Let me say one thing.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
You're a senator who's calling them about the country.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
No, you don't know anything about the country yet I know.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
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