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October 2, 2025 37 mins

Hour 2 of A&G features...

  • The AOC crowd & Biden's note cards
  • The 110mph pitch & Jane Goodall
  • The sombrero trolling continues & the Middle East conflict
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Jettie and he Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
The President's been posting some images of Leader Jefferies and
Senator Schumer. You've said that you're interested in good faith
negotiations with these leaders, But you know what message does
that send? Is it helpful to post pictures of Leader
Jefferies and sombrero if you're trying to have good faith
talks with him?

Speaker 4 (00:40):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (00:40):
I think it's funny. The President's joking and we're having
a good time. You can negotiate in good faith while
also poking a little bit of fun at some of
the absurdities of the Democrats' positions, and even you know,
poking some fun at the absurdity of the Democrats themselves
and telling Jeffries right now.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
I like, I just like the reporter asking the question,
is it helpful to post pictures of Hakeem Jeffreys and
a sombre?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
What a funny question with.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
That serious vine exactly negotiating just asn't aside. JD e
Vance rama Manuel, that's your twenty twenty eight race boy.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
That'll be some good debating right there.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Ram's got an editorial out today in the Wall Street
Journal and it's probably the other places too, in one
version or another. And it's about the state of education
in America, and it's like I co wrote it. It's
it's very common sense. A moderate democraty he sees steering
hard in that direction.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Should be interesting to watch.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yeah, I don't want we don't have to go too
far down this road right now. But Rama Manuel is
a Democrat who's got the guts and I think the
wisdom to just stiff farm that AOC crowd. I don't
care what you think. There aren't enough for you to
have an effect on me.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
And he's more policies don't work, and he has the
balls to say it well, and.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
He just realizes that they're not near as big.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
A deal as right. And he is, like JD. Vance,
a very good verbal swordsman, very skilled. So again, cut
off his fings blnny of time to look forward to
that though, cut off his finger working at Army's.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
That's my favorite part of the Rama manual story. Hey,
he goes full in when he's going to do a job.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah, huh, this is getting a fair amount of attention.
I suppose we should pile on investigative reporting uncovering that
Biden was using note carbs with names and photos of
Democrats that he knows whenever he was going to do
a public event. So it's it's perfectly common to you know,

(02:41):
I would love if we had, you know, the money,
to have an advanced team to do this for us.
If you're going to walk into a room and there's
going to be some people that you don't necessarily know,
and you got a little card in your hand that
says it's Jim Johnson from you know, Home Gardening, and
you met him last year at the Christmas party.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
And I'd look at that and think, oh yeah, ah yeah,
remember the Christmas party. That was a good time. Huh.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
And he grew up like four towns away from you.
You talked about that last year. That'd be super healthful.

Speaker 4 (03:08):
So not only did Joe Biden have those cards for
people he didn't know, he had them for people he
did know, including the name and photo of say, former
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
That's what it's set on the cord. Actually, what's set
on the card? I said, Hey, esther I.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Mean there's people you know, then there's household name, right,
how about Barack Obama?

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Could he recognize him?

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Five different palm cards, which are hand sized note cards
frequently used by politicians for quick reminders or talking points
during public events, especially when on the campaign trail, were
uncovered admitted an investigation of the National Archive documents at something.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
This had to go into the National.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Archives because in theory, we're supposed to save every shred
of paper that a president ever has for anything is
supposed to go into their presidential library. And yeah, I'm
surprised somebody didn't destroy these. Beyond the scenes, I can
barely keep up with them.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Is this? This is the best Joe Biden ever? You
don't like it?

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Have you?

Speaker 4 (04:07):
It's unclear if Biden actually relied on these cards during
the various public events. That doesn't really matter. That doesn't
really matter the fact that his people thought that he
needed to. Clinton was among a handful of Americans who
received a Presidential Medal of Freedom, and so he was
doing that little you know, get together with all the
people lined up, and it had to palm cards for

(04:28):
different people that I'm sure he needed the palm card for,
and that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Where's Jackie, Dude, Jackie, you're here? Where's Jackie?

Speaker 4 (04:35):
But one of that she was dead and he had
talked with Scott sir, and she he had talked to
her husband like a week before or something like that. Uh,
that story, you remember. One of the palm cards obtained
reads Presidential Medal of Freedom recipients and was followed by
photos and short biographies of the recipients, including a photo
of Hillary Clinton and a short note detailing she was
the secretary of State in the Obama and Biden administration.

(04:59):
Huh secretary of state when you were vice president?

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Oh right, yeah, Hillary right.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Another note card for a recipient included a photo of
Hollywood actor Denzel Washington, who also received the award, saying
he's a famous actor.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
It set on the card, Yes he is thereby making
us wonder why you need the car, you know, speaking
to Hillary. It might have been on Brett Paar last night,
I can't remember, but they're shown Hillary back in the
day angrily stating that government healthcare money should absolutely not
go to illegal immigrants because that'llllure even more people across

(05:36):
the border. It's the last thing we ought to do,
said the Democrat who whose policies are now unrecognizable.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yeah, I don't know if we've had this clip this week,
we probably ought to get it.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
If we didn't.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Rocana, congress Person of California, kind of slipped over the
weekend in one of the talk shows and basically said, yes,
this would allow some taxpayer money to go to healthcare
for illegals. But it's a tiny amount of money in
the overall scheme of things, So it's to make that
the hang up is just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Uh yeah, okay, so vote in the shutdown then fine.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
It's a it's the it's not the amount of money necessarily,
it's the fact that we're doing it, and it always
these things always grow.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
That's the prime. Well, and the funny part of his
argument is that.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Spending the money is no big deal, So why are
you why is.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
The comment shutdown? All right? Then? Roe?

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Not spending the money is no big deal either, right
as well?

Speaker 2 (06:41):
So what are we doing here? Excellent point. Bit y'
all know what's happening.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Chuck Schumer is gonna get primaried by AOC, so he
wants the left to see him.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
I'm a fighter, I'm an eighty year old fighter.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Well, anybody who listened to NPR yesterday speaking of that
sort of argument. NPR yesterday constantly throughout this is the
first day an NPR's history that we've had to broadcast
without federal funding, so.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
And exactly, and the argument was always it's not that
much money that we receive.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Okay, then don't get it. If it doesn't matter that much,
how about we just stop it, which we did. What
do we talk to You can't have it both ways.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
You can't claim it's really not that important to us,
so it's not that big a deal.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Okay, fine, then let's shut it off.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
And it is a disaster that threatens all that is
holy that that money has been without.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
But their promos and NPR also included a lot of
comments like critics claim NPR is a partisan news outfit,
which NPR says is not true and we have seen
no evidence of and like.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Oh are you staying corrected? Hilarious, very very hilarious.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
And how it's gonna be They're going to lead to
layoffs and NPR stations. Ooh, now you might not know
this since you're not in the radio industry. But the
radio industry has been devastated with layoffs over the last
twenty years, but they continue year by year by year
because of the changing media structure. So the fact that
NPR would have to lay off some people, ooh, that
really really hurts. So many people have left radio stations

(08:17):
I've worked for in my lifetime to go to NPR
because they pay so much more. The radio station that
doesn't need advertisers because they get tax money, it pays
a lot more. How are you support I'm supposed to
open a radio station as a tax paying citizen and
compete with the government radio station for talent. That's fantastic, right, right,

(08:39):
And they never downsize their local radio ranch might have
gone from one hundred and twenty employees to twenty in
the last decade legitimately, but NPR has to lay off
one or two people conceivably, and they act like it's
the apocalypse. Please, this is a first day in NPR's
history of broadcasting without federal funding.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
But we will continue to try to bring you the truth.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
And then they run all this promost with listeners calling
in saying I'm just glad that there's somebody out there
that doesn't have any spin or lies, someplace I can
go to get the real story.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
You've got to be kidding me. You're fool absolute fool.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
That reminds me a little later on the show.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Really interesting study of media bubbles in what they look like.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
It's a Charlie Kirk thing.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
It's we're gonna stand back like Jane Goodall did and
observe the chimps in their natural.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Habitat wow, describe their behaviors.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Nice job of working in a celebrity death, although she
kind of did what what I was talking about with
Robert Redford. She outlived her her peak moment to be
to get the real, the real good treatment from your death.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
So I don't understand that.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
So what do you suggest she do hurt herself off
a cliffl She's in her prime.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
No, but if you get.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Better media, if you live long enough, people don't remember
your big moment, which was like in the eighties.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Really yeah, she's a pretty big presence on the scene
for a long time. Again, this anti Jane Goodall rhetoric,
where does it come from? What did what happened?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Did she throw her poo at you? Or something. Chimplanke,
I don't understand Again.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
When the news broke yesterday, I thought the monkeys finally
got to her, But that's not happened.

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Slide a little card in his hand that says Jill Biden.
She's your wife. You sleep next to her in bed
for the last forty years. She has a fake degree.
People call her doctor for some reason. That other guy,
the other guy with the crooked jaw, his hunter Biden
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throughout the years. Just have this little note card in

(11:36):
case you need it. Wow, we got more on the way.
Stay here from Mason Miller. About as fast as a
human being has ever thrown a baseball.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
And look it's not just a veloci. I mean one
don't force. But look at the placement of it. I
mean you couldn't walk up there. It any better than
that one oh four.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Uh yeah, that's fastest pitch of the year in Padre's
game last night.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
And got to move the mound back.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Come on, all the series, except for Dodgers had gone
to Game three winner go home today. That's exciting baseball.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
One O four.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
So what I thought was interesting about that, I've never
I have no idea what that would look like standing
at the plate one hundred and four mile an hour fastball,
but it looked to me like just observing it, it
looked faster than like the ninety eight mile an hour fastball.
It's like it looked faster just watching it on TV. Yeah,
so I'm wondering, wow, can you even see anything?

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (12:39):
You see, it leaves hand and your brain can predict
where it's going more or less, and you start your swing.
But that's again and the I remember talking about this
months ago, but the number of pitches over one hundred
miles per hour went from like seven five years ago
to one hundred and seventy five. Really, guys are just

(13:00):
throwing harder and harder, and they're ruining their arms and
then getting Tommy John surgery. But uh, yeah, I don't
I don't know where baseball goes. I mean because at
the point if somebody starts throwing at one ten, well
what are we even doing here? I mean, you're gonna
have to send guys up to a bat with those
You remember the big orange bat that little kids play with.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, the bats are gonna be have to shape like
that to be able to hit the ball. Or catchers
refuse to catch the ball.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Here, you're killing me. Uh oh yeah yeah, nomps please.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Well, they're talking about the game last night, and this
is getting a little sports see beut a game last night.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
The average.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
National League batting average this year was two forty five,
which is really low historically. Like the pitchers are, you know,
are winning the day right now? Your average Major league
hitter HiT's two forty five. Yeah, it's usually been hard
enough offense.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, exactly. I want to hear charming Jane Goodall tail
that's the monkey lady that died yesterday.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
They're chimps or apes. But I'm sat along by Mike
the attorney from Chicago. I love this and I remember
this happening at the time. Do you remember when the
brilliant Far Side comic was Yeah, it was current and
Gary Larson just everybody loved the Far Side. Yeah, oh
my gosh. Anyway, one of the Far Side comics was

(14:21):
a lady chimp and a male chimp, and the lady
looks at the mail chimp and sees a blonde hair
on him and says, you've been tramping around with that
Jane Goodall, haven't you well? And it was hilarious, but
the Jane Goodall Foundation went ape poo over it.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Really that's right.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
But then she herself weighed in and said, no, that's hilarious,
and Gary Larson went to visit her sanctuary and donated
to her foundation. Goodness, but yeah, yeah, yeah, So organizations
in general, bureaucracies.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Are are just they're not nice people, you know.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
So you gotta admit I've never paid attention to the
Jane Goodall story. I knew she did something with almost gosh,
I have since I was a little kid. Well, good
then you're the perfect person to ask. I knew she
did something with monkeys, and then they made a movie
about it apes with Yes, Meryl Street played her in
the movie, and that was a really big deal. Gorillas
in the miss. So what did Jane Goodall do that
made her famous? She was, And interestingly, she was not

(15:22):
a trained scientist. She was an employee of a scientist
who wanted some observations and data, and so he sent
her and her mom out into the mountains of Uganda.
I think it was one of your African countries that
are you know, rich with chimps anyway, just to see
if she could observe their behavior in the wild. And

(15:43):
so she went out there and camped for weeks and
weeks and weeks before she ever encountered any of them,
but then finally figured.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Out where they hung out.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
They slowly but surely got used to her presence and
she was the first person to really observe chimpanzees in
the wild and how they behave, and made some amazing
discoveries like got video of a chimp stripping a stick
of leaves and then sticking it down into a termite hole.
The termites would latch onto it, he'd lift it up

(16:11):
and eat them. And until that moment, all scientists have
been saying humans are the only animal that crafts and
uses tools. Oh really, yeah, wow, Well that is a
big breakthrough. Yeah, And she showed the way they nurtured
their young, informed alliances and rivalries and that sort of thing.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
And she never got attacked or anything. She didn't show
up with a different haircut and get ripped to pieces.
Well no, no, indeed, there are a couple of tense
moments in her career. So really, because those things will
rip off your arm. They'll rip off your arm.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
And beat you to death with a bloody stump. It
never happened to her.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
I have a chip sanctuary near where I live, and
I know people that have worked there who would they
quit because it was not what they thought it was
going to be.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
It is quite dangerous.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
And you know, I was watching some of the archival
footage of her, and with all due respect and the
work she did and everything, there was a teeny tiny
little bit of Grizzly Man to it. You remember that
Timothy Treadway character who thought he was communicating with the
and communing with the grizzlies and lived among them, and
there's a documentary about him, and he and his girlfriend

(17:14):
ended up getting eaten.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
She had a little bit of that. You're saying, Nah,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
She was much more serious and much less crazy. She
was very very serious about studying chimp behavior. But she
lived among them and would touch them, and they would
touch her, and she kind of became an athorary chimp.
But thank god, nothing bad ever apped. Good lord, Yeah,
it would be a much different story. And she died
in her nineties yesterday, and good for her. You know,
some scientists say her presence among them altered their behavior,

(17:44):
so it's not a really pristine study.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
But she did something.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
Bore no doubt that they invented the stick and the
stick down the hold to eat termites because she was there.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Though. Hey, there's a hot blonde chick. Somebody do something
clever cool.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
I want to impress her, right, maybe I'll stick the
stick down us all. Trump just said something funny about
the shutdown, among other things on.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
The web Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 6 (18:09):
Look, guys, there's no way to sugarcoat it.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Nobody likes Democrats anymore.

Speaker 6 (18:13):
We have no voters left because of all of our
woke trans voting. Not even black people want to vote
for us anymore. Even Latinos hate us. So we need
new voters. And if we give all these illegal aliens
free healthcare, we might be able to get them on
our side so they can vote for us.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
That is not actually Chuck Schumer.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
That is an ai voice of the Democratic leader of
the Senate. And that was not actually Donald Trump in
a sombrero behind him playing the trumpet.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I was gonna praise Schumer for his candor.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Keem Jeffreys was not actually wearing a sombrero with a big,
giant black mustache. Also, jd Vance did not actually say this, okay.

Speaker 7 (18:53):
As do as mucco simply as Democrat Party as mucho ritardo, Okay,
mucho ritardo, especially Hakimo Jeffries, eyel chuck O Schumer, they
are extra ritardo, so el presidente. And I cannot negotiate
with these Democrat ritardos.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no no no, I
don't like that term.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Start otherwise, that was.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Very funny, started earlier in the week with that just
Schumer saying this about the Democrats and then there's kind
of the subtle ish sombrero and mustache. And it's grown
since then and do this all subtenly has been lost
and it's just completely out of control.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Well, and I love that reporter before. Is it helpful
to post sombrero pictures when you're attempting to negotia?

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Oh come on.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
So here's Hakeen Jeffries, a leader of the Democrats in
the House.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
He just reacting to the videos.

Speaker 8 (19:46):
It's a disgusting video and we're going to continue to
make clear bigotry will get you nowhere, we are fighting
to protect the healthcare of the American people in the
face of an unprecedented Republican all on all the things.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
There the disgusting video, and here here's the reporter thing
Joe was mentioning.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
The president's been posting some images of Leader Jeffries and
Sandra Schumerly, you've said that you're interested in good faith
negotiations with these leaders, But you know what messages that's
And is it helpful to post pictures of Leader Jeffries
and sombrero if you're trying to have.

Speaker 9 (20:23):
Something talk to He goes into the answer, But yeah,
you know what it shows. It shows that we're the
party that's got a sense of humor, Wow, angry all
the time.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Mustache?

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Is it helpful to post pictures of mister Jefferies and
a sombrero and giant black mustache. Well, a whole bunch
of Trumps. There's only one Trump, while five different Trumps
play trumpets and giant guitars, implying.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Some might say that there are multiple Trumps who should
run for a third term.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
If there were multiple Trumps, they'd be in a mariachi band.
Is that helpful.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Oh my golly, Now this is it's almost kind of
fun to watch, not the really silly part of it,
but the effort Hakeem jeffries to try to get his
civil rights movement. I'm outraged, we're all fighting together, voice going,
and he runs it off the flagpole and absolutely no
one salutes.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, I'll say it again.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
I've said it multiple times, but the fact that the
Washington Post editorial board, the people that run the Washington Post,
said the Democrats walked into a trap on this one
and then, and that they shouldn't have shut down the government.
They should have cobbled together to votes to go with this.
So I heard it explain. It's actually pretty good explanation.
These shutdowns are dumb and don't matter. And the last

(21:48):
one lasted a month and you don't even remember it happened,
all right, so quit acting like it's a big deal.
But several times this happened. Last couple of times with
Republicans were like the Tea Party did this, like we're
gonna show how hard we're gonna fight. And I was
on board with the fighting and everything like that, but
you just don't have the leverage of the votes to

(22:09):
actually make anything happen. And Ted Cruz did it around Obamacare.
He did the law the really long what do you
call it? A filibuster And then they also wouldn't go
along because they needed his vote to avoid a shut down,
and he had no leverage to actually get anything accomplished.
And that's what the the woke progressive end of Democrats

(22:32):
are doing. Now, We're gonna force a shutdown to show
how much we fight, but we don't actually have the
leverage to do anything. And so this has happened a
couple of times, and again nobody nobody, nobody dies, Nobody
even notices it happens. It disappears into the history books. Man,
if you ever read that history book, you are bored
to death. But speaking of jokes, here's an AI or no,
this is a comedian. This is not Ai. This is

(22:54):
a comedian who does a good Trump voice.

Speaker 10 (22:57):
Olah me, fellow americanas cebn anos al sierre de Schumer.
That means welcome to the Schumer shattawn. We call it
the Schumer Siesta, right, it's the Schumer Siesta. He put
the government on siesta. Crying chuck and el hakimo. Hefe
Jeffreys We used to call him Dallas Store Obama until

(23:19):
we realize he's worth far less than a dollar. But
they put the government on siesta to give illegal aliens
your healthcare. We're not gonna let it happen. I looked
at both of them. I said, We're not gonna let
it happen.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
There's no boy no.

Speaker 10 (23:34):
I said, it's no boyno.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
They begged me.

Speaker 10 (23:36):
They said, but signor or for more, please give illegal
aliens death care. So we're not gonna do it. We're
never gonna do it. It's not gonna happen. We're gonna
end the siesta. We're going to reopen the government, and
we will not give in to the demands of Chuck
and el Hefe. We're not gonna do that. Thank you,
God bless you, Diolo Bendiga, and God bless America. Thank

(24:00):
you for your attention to this matter.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
That last part was probably funny, but I don't speak
enough Spanish to know what he said. Yeah, I missed
that one too, uh the uh, but please, Senor, it's
pretty funny. The funny thing is that that's only like
one tick off actual Trump. Yes, I mean, it's just
barely even comedy as opposed to the President actually saying

(24:25):
what he was saying, and so Trump said, I got
it home word.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
I grabbed it somewhere and I lost it.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Trump said something funny, but I can't remember what it
was about the Democrats handing him this the he can't
believe that they same thing the Washington Post editorial board
basically said is he can't believe that the Democrats are
allowing him to do this and.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
All the leverage well in.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Trump's Boy Russell vote, the budget chief is taking advantage
of it to try to shrink the government as fast
as he possibly can.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Whether it holds up or not, nobody quite sure.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
But it's exactly what Trump and Elon Musk and company
and a lot of conservatives have been wanting to happen.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
So let it continue. That's fine. I saw.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
So there was some thing in the New York Times yesterday.
I got the bulletin during the day. You're nervous. Our
experts are here to answer your questions about the shutdown,
I thought, And I'm not nervous. I don't have any questions.
I'm perfectly fine. It'll end, like I keep saying, this
afternoon or Friday night or next Tuesday and nobody will

(25:32):
ever think about it ever again.

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that still wears COVID masks alone outdoors. Right, Well, those
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Speaker 2 (26:43):
Wow. I hadn't seen this.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Israel struck overnight in the Gaza Strip, killed at least
thirteen Palestinians according to whoever, according to hospitals. Of course,
a lot of hospitals are just Homas holdouts and they
call them a hospital. But anyway, Israel's continuing to blast
that area Gaza while Hamas is waiting to decide thumbs
up or thumbs down on the peace proposal, which the

(27:08):
deadline is this weekend. It's Thursday now, running out of time.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, well, maybe they ought to take a hard look
at it and figure it out quick. What do you
think is gonna happen? I still think there are only
two choices. One Hamas says, all right, we'll go along
with it and pretends to go along with it, uh,
and seeks to do what they've always thought to do
as hard as they can. Secondly, they just reject it

(27:34):
and say we'll fight to the death because they've vowed
martyred them over and over again.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
So the critics are saying, like, uh, I saw this.
Peter Baker of the New York Times that this was basically, uh,
you know, and all or nothing for Hamas proposal from
the Yeah, you see, one side is winning the war,
and they're gonna win the war no matter what. So
they offered to the people that they're about to comply,

(28:00):
deletely decimate. Here's a way out if you want it.
If you don't, we're just gonna continue.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
To do what we're doing. That's the way most wars end. Yeah,
so what like all of them.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, so they can decide to do it, Joe said,
And you know, they're uh dead enders, so they might say,
you know, we're gonna go ahead and fight to the
death because they don't care if they take all the
Palestinians with them, doesn't matter to them.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
In fact, they think that would be great. Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
In fact, they're gonna fight as long as they can
and have as many civilians die as possible to hope
that the world opinion turns against Israel, because it already
has to some extent. So yeah, that's probably the most
likely scenario, but the idea that you know, the Peter
Baker's of the world, and he's a bright enough guy,
but my god, you're holding Israel to a standard that
has never existed in warfare in the history of the world.

(28:46):
You've just invented this special new one for Israel. All right,
speaking of that sort of thing, a look from inside
the media bubble, specifically around Charlie Kirk, stepping aside from
like partisan advocacy, just looking at it as a scientist,
a political scientist.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Cool. What an odd moment we find ourselves in.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
And I just became aware of the term digital dopamine,
which I hope catches on as a phrase because that
is what's going on with social media and the way
everybody's addicted to it and just online everything. Anyway, lots
of stuff on the way. Stay here, hi, y'all doing.
I don't know about you. If your kids are back

(29:29):
in school, do you get illnesses running through your house
like we do when kids are getting back in school?

Speaker 2 (29:32):
And I don't know, I don't know what you're gonna
do about that. Oh, I think it's damn near universal. Yeah,
is it that happened when your kids were in school?
Oh yeah, more cold than that sort of Oh yeah, yeah,
never ending.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Because only one of your kids has to be in
one classroom with somebody, and then anybody's got it.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Sure, yep.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
So, speaking of classrooms, want to talk a little bit
about media and information bubbles. And I was gonna mention that,
uh well, I did mention on the air the other
day that a friend of mine has a professional relationship
with a person and it would not be appropriate for
my friend to call them out and disagree with them
on politics. But this person was commenting on the Charlie

(30:11):
Kirk assassination. And this fella, who my friend identified as
a very nice guy and quite reasonably brian, just an
overall good dude, was one hundred percent convinced that the
young man who killed Charlie Kirk was a flag waving
maga conservative who resented Charlie for not being maga enough.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Was completely convinced of that.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
And I'm saving it for a campus madness update probably tomorrow.
But the head of the Association of University Professors, which
is tens of thousands of university professors, was out the
other day saying, oh, yeah, absolutely, he was a right
wing activist who killed Charlie Kirk and exactly the same thing.
And if there's a theme to this, and I've got

(30:59):
a couple more like exhibits, it's that a lot of
folks who think some crazy ass they're probably not bad people,
but they're used to looking in some fairly normal, mainstreamish
places for information and what they're getting is just wildly inaccurate.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
I'm thinking of a couple of people I know who
have really warped views of what's going on in the world.
It's not because they're bad, it's just because of where
they go to get their information.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Right, and so choice. Yeah, yeah, and you've got to
be a better consumer of news. But maybe the theme,
the overall theme, is when you're running too people who
think this crazy stuff, it could well be they've just
never heard an alternative explanation, and be nice. Be what

(31:52):
we on the right tend to be, which is I'll
listen to you now if you don't mind, can you
listen to me because I haven't heard you know?

Speaker 2 (32:00):
How about if I go with back away slowly and
keep my eye on their hands. A lot of war
two free beacon.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Let me the major AI platforms which have emerged as
significant American news sources, especially for the young, describe Charlie
Kirk's assassination as motivated by right wing ideology and downplay
left wing violence as quote exceptionally rare. According to the
Free Beacon, when asked to name recent assassination in the

(32:32):
US motivated by right wing ideology, multiple chat bots, including
chat GPT, Google's Gemini Perplexity all listed Charlie Kirk's murder
as a right wing act of violence.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Well, obviously, Jimmy Kimmel got misled by this. He seemed
to actually.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Believe that Gemini's chatbot made the provably false statement that quote.
The assassination of conservative active as Charlie Kirk in September
of twenty five has been identified by researchers as the
only fatal right wing terrorist incident in the US during
the first half of twenty twenty five, and they go
into some detail. Keep in mind that a recent Free

(33:11):
Beacon analysis we talked about this on the air found
that Al Jazeera was one of the two most popular
sources used by AI chatbots for news about the Israel
Hamas war, and there were zero Israel learn leaning sites
that were in their top ten. I think it was

(33:31):
so garbage in, garbage out. Then you've got Hannah Nicole Jones,
Nicole Hannah Jones, whatever her name is. New York Times
the Crazy Lady, the racist who came out with a
sixteen nineteen project, wrote recently that public mourning for Kirk
is unsettling. In the wake of Kirk's death, individuals and

(33:54):
institutions across the nation moved not just to condemn his
killings in political violence, but to venerate him. It was
unsettling to see many politicians from across the political spectrum
speak with reverence about Kirk. And she went on to
describe how he was a man who spread hate. Said

(34:18):
black women lack the brain processing power to otherwise be
taken seriously, which is a deliberate misquoting of Charlie. And
again that's in the New York Times. Wow, flamingly. You know,
liberal obviously, but you could be a person serious about
getting your information and be completely misled.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Well, on the same story, but a different version of it.
I was talking to somebody yesterday who is completely into
this story that that poor kid in Utah is going
to be executed for something he didn't do. He was
framed he was a patsy like Lee Harvey Hoswald, that
the the FBI planted that gun and they're pinning it

(35:02):
on him and it was the masade working with our
FBI to Arlie killed Charlie Kirk and they're gonna pin
it on this kid, and this poor kid is gonna
be executed. And how I mean this person was upset
that this innocent kid is gonna be executed for something
he didn't do.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
God unplugged the Internet, and I think that comes from
the Candace Owen's crowd. Yeah, yeah, I was just gonna
ask that.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, all right, final note on this topic, because Nelly
Bowles is so great writing in the free press and
the left.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yes, but why so like why for you and I?

Speaker 4 (35:38):
Is it so obviously he was half crazy also upset
about the trans thing, but he's dating a trans person
and blah blah blah suicidal And I just believe that story.
Why do you think you and I are the way
we are on that story, which I believe is the
accurate version.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
By the way, I don't.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Know experience the skepticism. I've described before, how my three
kids all are very different on the skepticism scale, it's
got to be inborn to some extent.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
I wish I could help people on the right and
left not to fall for what is obvious crap.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
I have no doubt that what I just laid out
there is the truth, like no doubt.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
I'm not even exactly sure why though. What is the truth?
That he was a half.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
Crazy, suicidal kid that was upset about the trans stuff,
and he did it himself.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Because he's dating a transperson.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
He was alienating from his family because they were conservatives,
and yeah, yeah, and he'd spend all of his time online,
got radicalized.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah, it's absolutely true. Yeah, Anyway, no.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Time to get to Nelly Bowles and her beautiful takedown
of yet another writer in The New York Times who
suggested that killing Charlie Kirk was just like a Jew
in World War Two killing a Nazi.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
What. Yeah, Okay, I don't follow that. You have to
defend yourself. We've got a lot of candles.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Let here in the control room for the count count
because of the shutdown. We're all dealing with it in
our own way. But I hope you can stick around.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
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