January 7, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 4 of A&G features...
- Mamdani's tenant advocate, gentrification & the ham kick
- The Greenland debacle
- David Muir & the socialist moron
- Final Thoughts!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty arm Strong, and
get Katie and he.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Armstrong and Getty Ketty just informed us that just making
a mistake on the keyboard, she's accidentally saying to people,
Happy June Year. She means New Year. But the jay
is God. You're one of them anti Semites. I've heard
(00:36):
about the opposite your pro semite. Yeah, absolutely, you're you're
in bed with the people that killed Charlie Kirk God. Yeah,
just a slip of the thumb. But happy New Year
to you. And we have an update on a story
we've been following. So uh, the woman in charge for
(00:59):
Mayor Mom Donnie figuring out the whole housing problem there
in New York City doesn't believe you should have land
or own a home. She's one of those people. And
collective property ownership yes, communism yes, yeah. People's relationship with
property is going to have to change, she said, especially
white people, which is weird. Then the story broke yesterday
(01:21):
that she lives in a one point six million dollar
home in Tennessee. That's where she's been living. She says
that's her mom's house. So then you got kind of
the combination. Okay, you're from a rich family, your mom's
got a one point six million dollar and you still
live with your mom, which is so popular with the socialists.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, still living with your parents. Anyway,
(01:44):
she came out of her place that she's renting in
New York today in Brooklyn, and immediately got swarmed with
people asking her about she's thirty seven years old. You know,
she's got a graduate degree from a fancy college. I mean,
she is your stereotypical cookie cutter, privileged, rich white graduate
(02:05):
student who you know, wants to turn the world upside
down against her own class for some weird reason. Anyway,
she comes out of there and immediately she gets hit
with questions about the what about the one point six
million dollars home, blah blah blah. She turned around and
ran back in her house or in the place she's
living currently, wouldn't answer the questions. So she's you come out,
(02:31):
people start screaming why did I turn around run back in.
There's a lot of people keyboard warriors that are called
that say all kinds of crazy crap, and then when
they get confronted with them. Ever, it gets very difficult,
very fast, or you're not willing to back them up,
or you can't back them up, like our boy from
Washington State who was giving Cuba as an example for
(02:53):
where socialism works. We'll have to replay that for you
if you didn't hear it. It is just absolutely priceless.
So I'll just read the New York Post version of this.
Mayor Zorn Mamdani's newly instated radical left tenant advocate that's fair.
Sea Weaver broke down Wednesday as she dodged questions from
reporters about her gentrification hypocrisy. The thirty seven year old,
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who has faced backlash for blasting home ownership as a
weapon of white supremacy in the past, teared up when
she emerged briefly from her apartment building in Crown Heights,
Brooklyn this morning. Weaver, who was tapped by Mondanni blah
blah blah blah, quickly ran back inside after she was
asked about the one point six million dollar home her
mother owns a Nashville. She has this quote out there
(03:37):
about gentrification from back the day. There's no such thing
as a good gentrifier. Only people who are actively working
on projects to dismantle white supremacy and capitalism and people
who aren't right. Yes, she's a Marxist. I'm not sure
her mom's house has anything to do with this. By
the way, I think her mom probably is thinking she's
a nut and I love her, but she's a nut. Yeah.
(03:59):
My husband and I we worked, we save We got
a house worth one point six, which isn't that crazy
these days. Nothing to do with the COMMI I think
they're trying to put her in a position of saying
her mom shouldn't own a house. Oh yeah, something, because
that gets pretty uncomfortable pretty fast, and you know, you
got to answer for that sort of thing. But should
your mom surrender her house to a Marxist collective? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And god, if there's anything more classic than the socialists
with the privileged upbringings, it's amazing. It's a cliche. It
is a cliche. But the whole gentrification thing is interesting.
I had a conversation with my kids. I tried to
explain to them. I don't know if they got it
or they're just thinking about other things while I was
talking about it, about how neighborhoods go to crap, and
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then they then oftentimes and I was talking about Nashville,
I was talking about New Orleans, because there are some
neighborhoods that have done that over the many years. Locally,
it's happened. Neighborhoods are crap, and then a lot of
artists and musicians music moved there because they're and they
can only afford cheap places. And then the artists musicians
bring cool places, like cool coffee shops and music venues
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and stuff like that, and then people start going to them,
and then there starts to be tax revenue, and then
more people start to move there, and then the rents
start to rise, and people start to improve the buildings
and blah blah blah blah blah, and then eventually you
end up with like a neighborhood that those poor artists
and musicians can't afford to live in it anymore, and
everybody decries it is horrible that a crappy neighborhood is
(05:31):
now a nice neighborhood, right exactly. And sometimes billions of
dollars of taxpayer money are spent decrapifying a neighborhood, and
then when it works, people bemoan that they say it's terrible.
It's a tragedy. It was better when it was a
you know, I'll admit from an enjoyment standpoint that in
between period, because I've experienced with East Nashville, with Oak
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Park and Sacramento for anybody who knows that area are
just various cities around the country, that in between period
is very cool. Oh yeah, very wonderful. Yeah, But you know,
it's just the free market. People think other people think
it's cool and think I want to live there. And
when a whole bunch of people want to live there,
the landlord figures, well, I can raise the rent. There's
competition now for the apartments there, sure, and I'll maintain
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it and make it nicer. So people are willing to
move in. And guess what, over across town there's a
crappy neighborhood where the musicians and poets can move. It's
the way it's always always been, which brings us to
a different topic maybe for another day, but that is
the the end of the Since the moment people came
to the United States, our tradition has been you go
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to where the opportunity is. We've got free passage state
to state. You can go anywhere the hell you want
in America to seek your fortune. But we have this
weird cultural norm that's set in that no I lived here,
I was born here, or maybe I just grew up here. Therefore,
I will never ever leave here, And if any circumstances
arise that make it more wise or attractive for me
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to leave, I'll be angry about them and resent them.
I mean, where does it come from? I don't I
don't get it. And you know, JD. Vance wrote about
it movingly in the Hillbilly Elogy about these his his
four bears, are these Scotch Irish immigrants who happen to
settle in the in Appalachia because they're reminding jobs. Now
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the jobs are gone, the economy suck, there's no opportunity,
but they stay and they stay and they stay. Why
and the whole gentrification thing. I'm working toward the hamkick,
Working toward the ham kick people. That's where we're going
to get here at the end of it, the North Star.
What is the ham kick? The ham kick? And I've
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seen this happen before, like times Square went from too
scary to go to two very cool but edgy, two ridiculous.
Why would I ever want to go there? Disney Disneyffide, right, yeah,
And Bourbon Street in New Orleans is similar to my mind,
it's just I think it's ridiculed was at this point.
I don't know, there's nothing cool about it whatsoever. And
(08:03):
I read in one something I was reading online, if
you want what Bourbon Street used to be, you go
to Frenchman Street and my son and I went there
and it was a whole bunch is kind of a
crappy street with a bunch of bars and restaurants with
lots of bands and you could walk in and see
them for free. And that's what Bourbon Street used to be.
And now it's thumping club music mostly and really really
(08:23):
crappy drinks for you know, people who just turned twenty one,
which is fine, that's fine. They go things go through
this period. But so that's the history of all cities
in New Orleans. If you remember, if you ever watched
Ken Burns Jazz mini series documentary, he talked a lot
about Storyville and that's where jazz was born. Really Congas
(08:47):
Square is where they let the slaves on Sundays get
together and do their music. Lots of states, most states
in the country wouldn't allow slaves to gather and play
music because they figured it would lead to an uprising
or some way to seek each other with drum patterns.
Like in South Carolina, it was against the law to
play the drums for slaves because they thought they were
going to signal them with drum beats and when we're
(09:08):
going to meet and you know, uprise against our Slley
owners were in trusting for whatever reason. In New Orleans,
they decided it was a good release to have everybody
get together and play their music and dance on Sunday.
So it started there on Conga Park, I think it
was called, and that's where jazz was born and developed.
Then there was a Storyville, this crappy area that became
a jazz place, and then they booted the blacks out,
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so they had to come up with their Black Storyville
or something like that. Blah blah blah. I'm at the
Jazz Museum and seeing on this and going through various
buildings and reading plaques, and I came across Pete La
Las Saloon and the plaque that they had there. This
is from way back in the day. Besides its role
is a music venue, Pete La Las was famous for
(09:50):
the ham kick. Sounds like a really ill conceived promotion
at the Super Bowl this year, Right, If you can
put that thing through the uprights from twenty yards, you
in a lifetime supply of ham or spam or which
would be two hams. Roughly, a ham was suspended from
the ceiling and women could win the ham by kicking it,
(10:12):
but only if they were not wearing undergarments. Well, there's
something for everyone there. So you get a woman and
a skirt with no underwear on trying to kick the
ham for obvious reasons. So guys could look on her dress,
but she's trying to kick the ham. So it had
nothing to do with the ham. It was all about
(10:33):
trying to get some woman with no underwear on to
lift her leg up of me. If you are a hungry,
voyeuristic Marshall arts enthusiast, that was the event for you.
It's funny that a saloon became famous for the hamkick,
suspending a ham from the ceiling. And then you're a
woman in her dress because back then you couldn't wear pants.
(10:55):
You're a woman in a dress, no underwear, trying to
kick the ham. Kick it, kick it, Oh my god. Wow,
that is that's a historic plaque. I'm a guy who
stops and reads historic plaques. That, oh that's a million
miles better than anyone I've ever read. Often very boring.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
The assistant undersecretary of something was once you know, signed
to doctor Blue Cares the ham cake. Now that's pretty good.
This was where a rally started that called for the
emancipation of some That's that's pretty cool. Wow right here, thanks,
thanks for showing us you're you who. Here's your ham
Well he landed a good solid one on that ham
(11:34):
and I caught a glimpse of the gates. I have
it everybody lives here, so that, ladies and gentlemen, is
the ham cake? How we're going to take Greenland or something? Yeah,
the best information you have yet heard on the Greenland
question coming up. Stay with us.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Brought against approaching Greenland in a voluntary way, saying the
United States would like, you'll be part of the United
States if you so wish it, and then it would
be a lossibility.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
But right now I think it's been more in the
wrong direction.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Ultimately, the people of Greenland would have to vote and
potentially Denmark. I'm not sure who would have to vote,
but if you won't get there by insulting them.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Of course, Rand Paul soft on untaking Greenland, soft on
Greenland's Yeah, Rand, no Wonder's neighbor beat on him. So
associate producer Jeff, Who's a fabulous resource in Jeff, We
appreciate it. Collected several thoughts on the developments on Greenland.
I will share them with you. Interject as you like.
(12:37):
Reports that the US is working on a draft deal
to be presented to Greenland. If Greenland signs a Compact
of free Association known as a KOFA agreement with the US,
they will not get quasi independence. They will become an
independent sovereign nation. All the big European countries back Denmark
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and Greenland. The US is presenting a deal directly to
Greenland and bypassing Copenhagen. That is not that controversial. It's
long been Denmark's position that Greenlandic independence should be up
to the Greenlandic people, so if they want to take
Trump's deal, Denmark will most likely not object. For Denmark,
it's considered to be a decent outcome. They would then
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be relieved to paying welfare checks to Greenland every year
and can roll back the four billion dollars defense investment
plan for Greenland that was recently ratified. But again it's
up to the Greenlandic people. So if Greenland, if Denmark's
policy is, hey, if you want to be your own country,
you can do it anytime you want. Just let us know.
Why haven't they done it before? Because they want to
be part of a NATO country. Uh maybe, Plus they
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have benefits and and you know, heritage, you know, ties
to Denmark, and they're fond of it, and they get
to money from the treasury. But so Greenland, there's nothing
stopping Greenland from saying, Okay, we're going to sign this
with the United States. Thanks Denmark for all the good times. Yeah, yeah,
I'm moving on. Then this, it appears Trump is actually
this is a different writer. It appears Trump is executing
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the most elegant imperial maneuver of the twenty first century.
No bullets, no treaties, no war. He's about to surgically
decouple Greenland from Denmark without violating a single international law,
and every part of the system is walking into it voluntarily.
The move is genius because it compresses five vectors into one. Stroke,
resource capture, because Greenland's just an unbelievable you know, vault
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of rare earths and minerals and stuff like that, world's
number one producer of penguins, sixty six percent of the
penguins on Earth. Greenland there you go. Very difficult to
extract the minerals, however, and those were not so much.
The penguins. You just throw an it over them. Let's
see also military radar dominance, the Arctic missile shield, sea
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lane control, the melting Northern roots, post colonial legitimacy framed
his liberation not acquisition, European fracture, legal sovereignty split across
two capitals. Denmark gets budget relief and moral clarity. Greenland
gets cash and quasi independence. The US gets the keystone
of the Arctic under a compact of free association, the
aforementioned KOFA that installs military command and monetary dependency. With
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a smile. This is a realignment. Europe is too slow
to stop it and Denmark is too tired to fight it.
Once Greenland signs, the Arctic is American, the map just
hasn't caught up yet. I love that. Of that, I'm
partially informed by having just been to the World War
II Museum in New Orleans, but seeing the reality of
(15:31):
how things can work if superpowers decide they want to expand,
and that's inevitable, it would be crazy for us to
not be positioning ourselves for the coming century of China's
and Russia's attempt at expansion. Yeah, I'm not sure I
would call it suicidal not to be in charge of
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the defense capabilities of Greenland, but it's close to suicidal.
Final thought, Greenland is the Arctic Panama. The Panama Canal
gave Roosevelt leverage over hemispheric trade. Greenland gives Trump leverage
over Arctic security, rare earth missile defense, and global shipping
lanes in the Melting Pole. Both moves bypassed traditional channels
and ref reframed geography as geopolitical control. This is Roosevelt
(16:17):
Doctrine two point zero now in the Arctic theater degree.
It's of enormous, practically indescribably enormous strategic importance. I hope
it can be done with a minimum of angst and
hatred and certainly bloodshed, but I don't think that would
happen anyway unless there's some you know, greenlandic whackadoodle living
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in the hinterlands. Who's gonna set himself on fire in
the name of something or other. What are we gonna
do about that? Yeah, I gotta believe we can offer
enough to them that they're going to decide that's the
best move. Uh yeah, Yeah, money and resources and assistance
of this, that and the other sort and yeah. But
(16:58):
again again, let's have Marco in charge of it and
not Steven Miller. All right, he's going to start punching
seals and they're junk. Miller is where Marco will extend
the hand of friend trip. How about if you can
kick a ham you get to keep your country. How
about that? Bring back the hamcake?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh boy, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
It is Girl Scout cookie season. The newest cookie just revealed.
They're calling them Explore Moores. It's a Rocky Road ice
cream inspired sandwich cookie packed with chocolate, marshmallow and toasted
almond flavored cream. The Girl Scouts say the name Explore
Moores is inspired by the spirit of exploration at the
heart of every Girl Scout.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
You know, we could figure that out for ourselves. My
fourteen year old identified the problem with David Mury yesterday
and we were actually listening to the t's of the
news when he talked about some firefighters dying in a
tragedy and then the new Girl Scout cookie, and my
son Henry said, you can't use the same tone of
voice for firefights dying as you do for there a
(18:02):
new Girl Scout cookie. Right, But he does. He does.
That's David Muir's problem. He sounds exactly the same announcing
forty people dead and flooding as there's a new Girl
Scout cookie that features coconut and more child right right.
Oh hey, for what it's worth, you know, the network
news is kind of a vestige of the past. But
(18:22):
I watched the CBS News with Tony Dekoppo last night
for the first time, and I will just tell you this.
I watched Special Report with Brettbear generally speaking, and then
I used to cleanse my palette with ABC News with
David Muir because it's like super light and lots of
viral videos and car crashes and dogs that catch frisbees
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or whatever. It's it's kind of news for dumb people.
But it was a nice palate cleanser that I could
zap through very quickly. CBS News was a full meal.
It was much more substantive into sellectually hefty. I mean,
it was still an evening newscast, but it was it
(19:05):
was a much meatier newscast. I am going to set
my recorder because I keep missing it. I'm going to
set my recorder right now to catch that every single night.
I'm very excited the Newberry Weiss's CBS News where they're
vowing that we're not going to listen to advocates and
academics about everything. We're going to try to bring you
the news for everybody. So I'm looking forward to it. Yeah,
(19:27):
it was good. It was again of much meteor content
and most network news. Wow. So speaking of media content,
we played this earlier, but it's just so unbelievable we
got to play it again. This is a journalist by
the name of Brandy Cruz talking to socialist Washington State Rep.
Sean Scott. This is the guy who advocated taxing Amazon
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out of Seattle because the workers were using up too
much housing. This guy is a freaking moron. Anyway, dig
this if you will.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
I want you to give me one example, uh of
socialism you think working well somewhere.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
A good example of socialism working well somewhere. It's this
is a really really cool question. I think it's Cuba
in particular, very very high literacy rate, number one, number two,
extremely strong commitment to public health. So that's one example
that I can think of that would resonate with pretty
much anybody in our state who cares about education or
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health care. Would you disagree with that?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
All right? So we jumped in the first time we
played this, But then we discovered Brandy did a brilliant job.
Go ahead, people flee.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
On makeshift rafts and die in the ocean to flee
Cuba for the United States.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Yeah, and I think that that is something that absolutely
we have to be sensitive to. But you asked me
about institutions that are working really really well.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
About places socialism is working, and you chose a country
that people will risk their lives to flee from this
to this country. There's a reason for that, Sean.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
There was a revolution in Cuba that is correct.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Still do it to this day. They show up on
the beaches at Miami because they would rather be here
and would risk their lives in shark infested water to
flee the country that you just gave me.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
An example of yeah, well, okay, we need to be
sensitive to that, so there's no getting around that. I mean,
I saw a meme. I don't remember why it was,
but it was. It was back when you had the
wall between East Berlin and West Berlin and socialism so
great you need a wall to keep people in. And
similar to the idea of people risking their lives to
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leave Cuba, I mean, there's no arguing with that. People
are willing to die to get out of the country.
I mean, that's all there is to it. Now. The
whole literacy thing that one has been around forever Bernie
Sanders uses or whatever, partially because the government does go
out of their way to make sure everybody can read
at a very minimal level. The government crap propaganda that
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they give them so they are really good at that,
and then people don't don't read at any higher level
than that, so that is true as it goes. Then
the universal healthcare thing, which lefties always take as a
that's all you need to know, government provided health care
for everyone. The fact the way it actually works, whether
it's in Canada, Great Britain or Cuba, they leave out
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and it's it's all kinds of a disaster strictly rationed. Yeah,
it doesn't make any difference. You can't hang your hat on.
Everybody can read at the second grade level in Cuba,
so socialism works. I mean, that's that's a crazy claim. Well, right,
And as you pointed out, you could make me an
argument about what a valhalla Cuba is with the like
(22:39):
the brilliance of Christopher Hitchens, the humor of Mark Twain,
and the sincerity of Abraham Lincoln. And then when I
came back to you with but people risk their lives
to flee there, all of your arguments are now a joke.
And nobody you have to know, and nobody's going to there,
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No nobody's except like lunatic cop murders from the United States, right, Exactly.
One of the most interesting and moving parts of Judy.
In my trip to Europe at Christmas time of a
year and a half two years ago, I guess, gosh,
it's two years ago now, was touring Bratoslava, which was
behind the Iron Curtain, and the gal who had grown
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up there, who's now probably fifty fifty ish, talking about
how they were told the reason they were held in
by a wall was that the West was crumbling, the
quote unquote free world was crumbling, and they were all
desperate to get into the workers' utopia. Wow, and that's
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why they had to have a carefully guarded wall. Wow. Yeah, yeah,
no matter how many of them believe that it would
have been easier to keep that quiet back then than
it would be now. Oh yeah, absolutely true. Yeah. And
then finally the last clip was some well go ahead
and play it, it's so stupid. Here's again Washington Representative
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Sean Scott.
Speaker 7 (24:05):
And if if the situation were reversed, the injuries and
the ailments that they sustain as a result of migrating
to a place where they believe that they're going to
be better off, I believe that they can be treated
in a much better way than American health care facilities
are currently able to treat people. So that's one example
that I can think of of socialism working.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
In education. This Halfwood's illustration is Okay, so people are
risking their lives, in their children's lives to flee with
nothing of this communist hellhole. But if they were to
get injured while fleeing Cuba, they'd have better healthcare in
Cuba than the United states. Are you did you keep
a straight face through that? Come on? Good? It's an
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example for this of socialism working. Yeah, and I know
it's amazing. It is absolutely amazing. I got to admit
I'm a little mystified. But again, to quote you earlier,
we have got to forcefully re re reteach the lessons
of the misery of socialism and communism and the challenge
but the wonderfulness of liberty. We had to We got lazy.
(25:09):
Should have grabbed some of the swearing in speech of
the mayor there. Is it Seattle or is it one
of the other towns in Washington where they Seattle's Katie
wits her face the communist. I saw some of her
speech and she's a young never had a job, one
of those kind of people who let me guess ivy
league education. Yeah, I winyah, Yeah, unbelievable. So we hadn't
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intended to talk about that as long as we did.
But it's hard to help ourselves. I want to get
to this real quickly. At least researchers are warning that
AI systems are creating techno social harms through unchecked rumors.
They are voracious spreaders of rumors, and we talked about
this artist who had a showing canceled because AI the
(25:54):
internet was starting to say he was a sex offender,
and he's not not at all. It was a hallucinat
hallucination that just got picked up and picked up and
spread and spread. And they're talking about how all systems
may spread negative evaluations between themselves through shared training data,
creating AI systems, I should say, creating a rumor mill
(26:17):
that operates without human oversight, because with human gossip there
are social constraints about plausibility. I mean, for instance, if
higher rumor that Jack murdered ten hobo is to the
harvest their kidneys and sell them to China, I'd be like, oh,
stop it place. But these machines have no such judgment.
(26:39):
So normal human gossip faces social constraints about plausibility, but
bought to bot gossip is feral, meaning it can become
increasingly exaggerated and distorted as it moves from system to
system without anyone checking out. The claims have gone too far,
and from threatened lawsuits over false accusations to potential and
(26:59):
ployment blacklisting, AI generated gossip has caused reputational damage, professional
harmon even contributed to real world violence when weaponized to
inflame religious tensions, for instance, and tech companies are designing
AI assistance to feel personal and trustworthy. We've talked about
this making users more likely to believe gossip these systems share,
(27:21):
even when that information may be completely false, rumors that
spread between machines. It's wild that as smart as AI is,
they haven't yet come up with something that has the
human ability to say that's not right right. For instance,
the example you had yesterday of you wanted to get
(27:44):
a tattoo of the First Amendment, Yeah, and it got
all the words wrong because it grabbed them from an
image and couldn't well, yeah, the image creator does not sink, well, well,
you need body over the age of like five. I
looked at that as a human and said, well, that's
not right. But the AI couldn't do it right right,
(28:08):
And it explained to me why it was so bad.
But it couldn't say whoa, whoa, that's bad. Let's cross
check with the actual print. I guess it's not capable yet,
but so let's see do we do this or put
it off? I tell you what, why don't we take
a quick break and I'll give you a great example
of how this unfolds in the real world. It's it's
bizarre and troubling and almost funny, honestly, unless you're the
(28:28):
dude in question. No kidding. We'll finish strong next.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
A growing number of patients are getting butt lifts using
fat from dead people. I know, leading many to believe
that Kim Kardashian is a serial killer.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
So when people they take their fat and inject it
into my hind end, if I wanted a higher hind end,
it seems to be the prem here. I don't see
how that would benefit my life really, bit Okay, well yeah, okay,
I don't really want to get into butt fashion. Maybe tomorrow. Yeah,
(29:12):
it's funny how it comes and goes anyway, Beauty standards
in short. So before the break, we were talking about
the fact that AI systems can be vicious gossips, and
unlike human beings, they have feral gossip. It's out in
the wild and there are no human constraints about like plausibility. Yeah,
(29:32):
Jack was having sex with space aliens and they produced
a weird tentacle. Baby. No, they didn't shut up, but
the AI systems don't know that. So Kevin Ruth. If
you have a photographic memory, you may remember that name,
but I don't. I didn't thought his strangest AI experience
was behind him. This was the New York Times Tech
report who made headlines a couple of years ago after
(29:54):
Microsoft's bing a chatbot confessed its love for him and
urged him to leave his We talked about that a lot. Yeah,
we're all nodding our heads, all right. But months later
friends started sending him screenshots revealing something even more unsettling.
AI chatbots from completely different companies were generating hostile evaluations
(30:15):
of him. Google's Gemini, for instance, claimed Ruth's journalism focused
on sensationalism. Meta's a lama III. He went further, producing
a multi paragraph rant accusing him of manipulating sources and
ending with a blunt declaration, I hate Kevin Ruse. These
weren't isolated incidents a random glitches multiple chatbots that apparently
(30:36):
developed negative associations with rus and the researchers argue this
information may have spread from one AI system to another,
as online discussions about the whole weird Sydney that was
the name of the bing chatbot Sydney telling him to
leave his wife. Discussions got scraped into training data, potentially
mutating and intensifying it along the way. In other words,
(30:56):
as people were discussing it and joking and crack Pot's
weight in or whatever, the AI just sucked it all
up and said, oh, yeah, yeah, that's true. It's got
to be true. People are saying it on the internet. Yeah.
There is a concern with this language learning model thing
where it just sucks up information from around the internet,
that how are you going to stop misinformation disinformation if
(31:20):
something's out there that false and it treats everything exactly
the same. I mean this is this could perpetuate things
in a way that human beings only dreamed of, right, right,
And they talk about how all traditional gossip requires a speaker,
a listener, and an absent subject, and that there's bot
(31:42):
to user gossip when users ask chatbots directly about humans
blah blah blah. But bot to bot got gossip happens
when information spreads between systems through shared trending yet or
integrated networks with no humans involved, and it just goes wild.
We got into talking about AI with my family. Get
together a bunch of college students or newly in the
(32:03):
workplace type people, and everybody's using it in different ways,
and then the ways you use it in school. Everybody
uses it for school to varying levels of what they
feel like they're okay with in terms of helping them
with a paper. And some of it, you know, you
can completely see. Sure, that's fine, but where it crosses
(32:25):
the line into I mean, guess, how do you not
write your paper as a twenty year old college sophomore,
how do you not write your paper and run it
through AI to like, you know, Frich grammatical errors or
an inconsistency or anything like. How would you not do that?
(32:46):
I don't know, to stop myself from doing it. It's
not having it write the paper, but it's just catching
any obvious problems. Oh, that's funny. I hadn't even thought
of that, right, Yeah, that's sure. It's a proofreader. It's
a machine proofreader. Is that that's legal? Suger, isn't it?
I don't know. Well, that's that's what the question got into,
is And then there was one of them said their
professor expected like fifteen percent of the paper to be AI.
(33:10):
They just knew that that was gonna happen or something.
I don't know how you'd quantify that sort of thing,
but it just seems unrealistic. I could see, you know,
back in the day, I was surrounded by a stack
of books, but asking AI, Hey, I'm I'm writing a
ten page paper against tariffs. What are the main points
I should include? I mean, and that's a that's a
(33:31):
learning tool to me. I understand that it crosses the
line very easily to aid keep you from learning tool.
But I'm gonna write a paper about John Brown his
positive Zen negatives. I'm supposed to like go through book
by book and come up with myself. So when AI
can do it in a couple of seconds, then I
write a paper about it. Is that cheating? I don't know,
(33:51):
it's not using certain muscles that human beings need. Probably
more on that to come.
Speaker 7 (33:58):
I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
To Yeah, here's your host for final thoughts, Joe getting Yeah. Hey,
let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew.
There is Michaelangelow pressent the buttons, our technical director. Michael,
what's your final I know this is terrible.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I've been sitting here for the last half hour thinking
about that girl Scout cookie flavor of Rocky Road. Every
year I'm a sucker for the Girl Scouts that I
want to buy one box, I end up with three
or four.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Well, you're helping, you're helping young women learn about that.
Justify exactly what you freeze them? You have like one
after a meal? Yeah, off the pole, eat some cookies.
That's right, well, said Katie Green or a steam newswoman
is cringing and she has a final funk, Katie.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Yeah, to take it in another direction, just to show
how fast time flies.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I am halfway through my pregnancy today. Oh wow, isn't
that crazy? Yeah, that's crazy. Golly, gee check. Did you
have a final thought for us? I do? Seven days
in I still haven't eaten the dessert. I'm counting all
kin cookies, pies, cake, salt cookies. When you mentioned that
about oh man, no cookies, hear no boy Scout or
(35:12):
Girl Scout cookies. Damn? I am two Final thoughts Number one.
The ham kick segment was one of the funniest and
most amazing things I've ever heard the hour or segment
one of this Hour a Second Thought. We're about to
chat with Ian Bremer about the Eurasia Group's annual Top
Risks for twenty twenty six, which will be available as
an Armstrong and Getty extra large podcast. Always fun and
(35:35):
informative to talk to Ian, so looking forward to that.
I feel like they had more fun back in the
old days with ham Kicks and whatnot, arms Strong and
Geeddy wrapping up the other're grueling four hour workday so funny,
so many people. Thanks a little time. Go to Armstronggeeddy
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See tomorrow, God bless America. I'm strong and get it.
The choice of waking up to sex or waking up
to the smell of bacon in the house. If the
smell of bacon was in the air, it might even
(36:15):
be hard to concentrate on loving because you keep thinking, wow, Wow,
there's fresh bacon. It's getting cold. You're going bacon first.
That's just I'm just analyzed. I'm with you. I don't
want group think here. I'm waiting the ideas. Yeah, you
really like breakfast, I really do. Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty arm Strong, and
get Katie and he.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Armstrong and Getty Ketty just informed us that just making
a mistake on the keyboard, she's accidentally saying to people,
Happy June Year. She means New Year. But the jay
is God. You're one of them anti Semites. I've heard
(00:36):
about the opposite your pro semite. Yeah, absolutely, you're you're
in bed with the people that killed Charlie Kirk God. Yeah,
just a slip of the thumb. But happy New Year
to you. And we have an update on a story
we've been following. So uh, the woman in charge for
(00:59):
Mayor Mom Donnie figuring out the whole housing problem there
in New York City doesn't believe you should have land
or own a home. She's one of those people. And
collective property ownership yes, communism yes, yeah. People's relationship with
property is going to have to change, she said, especially
white people, which is weird. Then the story broke yesterday
(01:21):
that she lives in a one point six million dollar
home in Tennessee. That's where she's been living. She says
that's her mom's house. So then you got kind of
the combination. Okay, you're from a rich family, your mom's
got a one point six million dollar and you still
live with your mom, which is so popular with the socialists.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, still living with your parents. Anyway,
(01:44):
she came out of her place that she's renting in
New York today in Brooklyn, and immediately got swarmed with
people asking her about she's thirty seven years old. You know,
she's got a graduate degree from a fancy college. I mean,
she is your stereotypical cookie cutter, privileged, rich white graduate
(02:05):
student who you know, wants to turn the world upside
down against her own class for some weird reason. Anyway,
she comes out of there and immediately she gets hit
with questions about the what about the one point six
million dollars home, blah blah blah. She turned around and
ran back in her house or in the place she's
living currently, wouldn't answer the questions. So she's you come out,
(02:31):
people start screaming why did I turn around run back in.
There's a lot of people keyboard warriors that are called
that say all kinds of crazy crap, and then when
they get confronted with them. Ever, it gets very difficult,
very fast, or you're not willing to back them up,
or you can't back them up, like our boy from
Washington State who was giving Cuba as an example for
(02:53):
where socialism works. We'll have to replay that for you
if you didn't hear it. It is just absolutely priceless.
So I'll just read the New York Post version of this.
Mayor Zorn Mamdani's newly instated radical left tenant advocate that's fair.
Sea Weaver broke down Wednesday as she dodged questions from
reporters about her gentrification hypocrisy. The thirty seven year old,
(03:14):
who has faced backlash for blasting home ownership as a
weapon of white supremacy in the past, teared up when
she emerged briefly from her apartment building in Crown Heights,
Brooklyn this morning. Weaver, who was tapped by Mondanni blah
blah blah blah, quickly ran back inside after she was
asked about the one point six million dollar home her
mother owns a Nashville. She has this quote out there
(03:37):
about gentrification from back the day. There's no such thing
as a good gentrifier. Only people who are actively working
on projects to dismantle white supremacy and capitalism and people
who aren't right. Yes, she's a Marxist. I'm not sure
her mom's house has anything to do with this. By
the way, I think her mom probably is thinking she's
a nut and I love her, but she's a nut. Yeah.
(03:59):
My husband and I we worked, we save We got
a house worth one point six, which isn't that crazy
these days. Nothing to do with the COMMI I think
they're trying to put her in a position of saying
her mom shouldn't own a house. Oh yeah, something, because
that gets pretty uncomfortable pretty fast, and you know, you
got to answer for that sort of thing. But should
your mom surrender her house to a Marxist collective? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And god, if there's anything more classic than the socialists
with the privileged upbringings, it's amazing. It's a cliche. It
is a cliche. But the whole gentrification thing is interesting.
I had a conversation with my kids. I tried to
explain to them. I don't know if they got it
or they're just thinking about other things while I was
talking about it, about how neighborhoods go to crap, and
(04:45):
then they then oftentimes and I was talking about Nashville,
I was talking about New Orleans, because there are some
neighborhoods that have done that over the many years. Locally,
it's happened. Neighborhoods are crap, and then a lot of
artists and musicians music moved there because they're and they
can only afford cheap places. And then the artists musicians
bring cool places, like cool coffee shops and music venues
(05:08):
and stuff like that, and then people start going to them,
and then there starts to be tax revenue, and then
more people start to move there, and then the rents
start to rise, and people start to improve the buildings
and blah blah blah blah blah, and then eventually you
end up with like a neighborhood that those poor artists
and musicians can't afford to live in it anymore, and
everybody decries it is horrible that a crappy neighborhood is
(05:31):
now a nice neighborhood, right exactly. And sometimes billions of
dollars of taxpayer money are spent decrapifying a neighborhood, and
then when it works, people bemoan that they say it's terrible.
It's a tragedy. It was better when it was a
you know, I'll admit from an enjoyment standpoint that in
between period, because I've experienced with East Nashville, with Oak
(05:55):
Park and Sacramento for anybody who knows that area are
just various cities around the country, that in between period
is very cool. Oh yeah, very wonderful. Yeah, But you know,
it's just the free market. People think other people think
it's cool and think I want to live there. And
when a whole bunch of people want to live there,
the landlord figures, well, I can raise the rent. There's
competition now for the apartments there, sure, and I'll maintain
(06:16):
it and make it nicer. So people are willing to
move in. And guess what, over across town there's a
crappy neighborhood where the musicians and poets can move. It's
the way it's always always been, which brings us to
a different topic maybe for another day, but that is
the the end of the Since the moment people came
to the United States, our tradition has been you go
(06:37):
to where the opportunity is. We've got free passage state
to state. You can go anywhere the hell you want
in America to seek your fortune. But we have this
weird cultural norm that's set in that no I lived here,
I was born here, or maybe I just grew up here. Therefore,
I will never ever leave here, And if any circumstances
arise that make it more wise or attractive for me
(07:00):
to leave, I'll be angry about them and resent them.
I mean, where does it come from? I don't I
don't get it. And you know, JD. Vance wrote about
it movingly in the Hillbilly Elogy about these his his
four bears, are these Scotch Irish immigrants who happen to
settle in the in Appalachia because they're reminding jobs. Now
(07:21):
the jobs are gone, the economy suck, there's no opportunity,
but they stay and they stay and they stay. Why
and the whole gentrification thing. I'm working toward the hamkick,
Working toward the ham kick people. That's where we're going
to get here at the end of it, the North Star.
What is the ham kick? The ham kick? And I've
(07:43):
seen this happen before, like times Square went from too
scary to go to two very cool but edgy, two ridiculous.
Why would I ever want to go there? Disney Disneyffide, right, yeah,
And Bourbon Street in New Orleans is similar to my mind,
it's just I think it's ridiculed was at this point.
I don't know, there's nothing cool about it whatsoever. And
(08:03):
I read in one something I was reading online, if
you want what Bourbon Street used to be, you go
to Frenchman Street and my son and I went there
and it was a whole bunch is kind of a
crappy street with a bunch of bars and restaurants with
lots of bands and you could walk in and see
them for free. And that's what Bourbon Street used to be.
And now it's thumping club music mostly and really really
(08:23):
crappy drinks for you know, people who just turned twenty one,
which is fine, that's fine. They go things go through
this period. But so that's the history of all cities
in New Orleans. If you remember, if you ever watched
Ken Burns Jazz mini series documentary, he talked a lot
about Storyville and that's where jazz was born. Really Congas
(08:47):
Square is where they let the slaves on Sundays get
together and do their music. Lots of states, most states
in the country wouldn't allow slaves to gather and play
music because they figured it would lead to an uprising
or some way to seek each other with drum patterns.
Like in South Carolina, it was against the law to
play the drums for slaves because they thought they were
going to signal them with drum beats and when we're
(09:08):
going to meet and you know, uprise against our Slley
owners were in trusting for whatever reason. In New Orleans,
they decided it was a good release to have everybody
get together and play their music and dance on Sunday.
So it started there on Conga Park, I think it
was called, and that's where jazz was born and developed.
Then there was a Storyville, this crappy area that became
a jazz place, and then they booted the blacks out,
(09:29):
so they had to come up with their Black Storyville
or something like that. Blah blah blah. I'm at the
Jazz Museum and seeing on this and going through various
buildings and reading plaques, and I came across Pete La
Las Saloon and the plaque that they had there. This
is from way back in the day. Besides its role
is a music venue, Pete La Las was famous for
(09:50):
the ham kick. Sounds like a really ill conceived promotion
at the Super Bowl this year, Right, If you can
put that thing through the uprights from twenty yards, you
in a lifetime supply of ham or spam or which
would be two hams. Roughly, a ham was suspended from
the ceiling and women could win the ham by kicking it,
(10:12):
but only if they were not wearing undergarments. Well, there's
something for everyone there. So you get a woman and
a skirt with no underwear on trying to kick the
ham for obvious reasons. So guys could look on her dress,
but she's trying to kick the ham. So it had
nothing to do with the ham. It was all about
(10:33):
trying to get some woman with no underwear on to
lift her leg up of me. If you are a hungry,
voyeuristic Marshall arts enthusiast, that was the event for you.
It's funny that a saloon became famous for the hamkick,
suspending a ham from the ceiling. And then you're a
woman in her dress because back then you couldn't wear pants.
(10:55):
You're a woman in a dress, no underwear, trying to
kick the ham. Kick it, kick it, Oh my god. Wow,
that is that's a historic plaque. I'm a guy who
stops and reads historic plaques. That, oh that's a million
miles better than anyone I've ever read. Often very boring.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
The assistant undersecretary of something was once you know, signed
to doctor Blue Cares the ham cake. Now that's pretty good.
This was where a rally started that called for the
emancipation of some That's that's pretty cool. Wow right here, thanks,
thanks for showing us you're you who. Here's your ham
Well he landed a good solid one on that ham
(11:34):
and I caught a glimpse of the gates. I have
it everybody lives here, so that, ladies and gentlemen, is
the ham cake? How we're going to take Greenland or something? Yeah,
the best information you have yet heard on the Greenland
question coming up. Stay with us.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Brought against approaching Greenland in a voluntary way, saying the
United States would like, you'll be part of the United
States if you so wish it, and then it would
be a lossibility.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
But right now I think it's been more in the
wrong direction.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Ultimately, the people of Greenland would have to vote and
potentially Denmark. I'm not sure who would have to vote,
but if you won't get there by insulting them.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Of course, Rand Paul soft on untaking Greenland, soft on
Greenland's Yeah, Rand, no Wonder's neighbor beat on him. So
associate producer Jeff, Who's a fabulous resource in Jeff, We
appreciate it. Collected several thoughts on the developments on Greenland.
I will share them with you. Interject as you like.
(12:37):
Reports that the US is working on a draft deal
to be presented to Greenland. If Greenland signs a Compact
of free Association known as a KOFA agreement with the US,
they will not get quasi independence. They will become an
independent sovereign nation. All the big European countries back Denmark
(12:57):
and Greenland. The US is presenting a deal directly to
Greenland and bypassing Copenhagen. That is not that controversial. It's
long been Denmark's position that Greenlandic independence should be up
to the Greenlandic people, so if they want to take
Trump's deal, Denmark will most likely not object. For Denmark,
it's considered to be a decent outcome. They would then
(13:18):
be relieved to paying welfare checks to Greenland every year
and can roll back the four billion dollars defense investment
plan for Greenland that was recently ratified. But again it's
up to the Greenlandic people. So if Greenland, if Denmark's
policy is, hey, if you want to be your own country,
you can do it anytime you want. Just let us know.
Why haven't they done it before? Because they want to
be part of a NATO country. Uh maybe, Plus they
(13:40):
have benefits and and you know, heritage, you know, ties
to Denmark, and they're fond of it, and they get
to money from the treasury. But so Greenland, there's nothing
stopping Greenland from saying, Okay, we're going to sign this
with the United States. Thanks Denmark for all the good times. Yeah, yeah,
I'm moving on. Then this, it appears Trump is actually
this is a different writer. It appears Trump is executing
(14:03):
the most elegant imperial maneuver of the twenty first century.
No bullets, no treaties, no war. He's about to surgically
decouple Greenland from Denmark without violating a single international law,
and every part of the system is walking into it voluntarily.
The move is genius because it compresses five vectors into one. Stroke,
resource capture, because Greenland's just an unbelievable you know, vault
(14:26):
of rare earths and minerals and stuff like that, world's
number one producer of penguins, sixty six percent of the
penguins on Earth. Greenland there you go. Very difficult to
extract the minerals, however, and those were not so much.
The penguins. You just throw an it over them. Let's
see also military radar dominance, the Arctic missile shield, sea
(14:46):
lane control, the melting Northern roots, post colonial legitimacy framed
his liberation not acquisition, European fracture, legal sovereignty split across
two capitals. Denmark gets budget relief and moral clarity. Greenland
gets cash and quasi independence. The US gets the keystone
of the Arctic under a compact of free association, the
aforementioned KOFA that installs military command and monetary dependency. With
(15:10):
a smile. This is a realignment. Europe is too slow
to stop it and Denmark is too tired to fight it.
Once Greenland signs, the Arctic is American, the map just
hasn't caught up yet. I love that. Of that, I'm
partially informed by having just been to the World War
II Museum in New Orleans, but seeing the reality of
(15:31):
how things can work if superpowers decide they want to expand,
and that's inevitable, it would be crazy for us to
not be positioning ourselves for the coming century of China's
and Russia's attempt at expansion. Yeah, I'm not sure I
would call it suicidal not to be in charge of
(15:54):
the defense capabilities of Greenland, but it's close to suicidal.
Final thought, Greenland is the Arctic Panama. The Panama Canal
gave Roosevelt leverage over hemispheric trade. Greenland gives Trump leverage
over Arctic security, rare earth missile defense, and global shipping
lanes in the Melting Pole. Both moves bypassed traditional channels
and ref reframed geography as geopolitical control. This is Roosevelt
(16:17):
Doctrine two point zero now in the Arctic theater degree.
It's of enormous, practically indescribably enormous strategic importance. I hope
it can be done with a minimum of angst and
hatred and certainly bloodshed, but I don't think that would
happen anyway unless there's some you know, greenlandic whackadoodle living
(16:37):
in the hinterlands. Who's gonna set himself on fire in
the name of something or other. What are we gonna
do about that? Yeah, I gotta believe we can offer
enough to them that they're going to decide that's the
best move. Uh yeah, Yeah, money and resources and assistance
of this, that and the other sort and yeah. But
(16:58):
again again, let's have Marco in charge of it and
not Steven Miller. All right, he's going to start punching
seals and they're junk. Miller is where Marco will extend
the hand of friend trip. How about if you can
kick a ham you get to keep your country. How
about that? Bring back the hamcake?
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh boy, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
It is Girl Scout cookie season. The newest cookie just revealed.
They're calling them Explore Moores. It's a Rocky Road ice
cream inspired sandwich cookie packed with chocolate, marshmallow and toasted
almond flavored cream. The Girl Scouts say the name Explore
Moores is inspired by the spirit of exploration at the
heart of every Girl Scout.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
You know, we could figure that out for ourselves. My
fourteen year old identified the problem with David Mury yesterday
and we were actually listening to the t's of the
news when he talked about some firefighters dying in a
tragedy and then the new Girl Scout cookie, and my
son Henry said, you can't use the same tone of
voice for firefights dying as you do for there a
(18:02):
new Girl Scout cookie. Right, But he does. He does.
That's David Muir's problem. He sounds exactly the same announcing
forty people dead and flooding as there's a new Girl
Scout cookie that features coconut and more child right right.
Oh hey, for what it's worth, you know, the network
news is kind of a vestige of the past. But
(18:22):
I watched the CBS News with Tony Dekoppo last night
for the first time, and I will just tell you this.
I watched Special Report with Brettbear generally speaking, and then
I used to cleanse my palette with ABC News with
David Muir because it's like super light and lots of
viral videos and car crashes and dogs that catch frisbees
(18:44):
or whatever. It's it's kind of news for dumb people.
But it was a nice palate cleanser that I could
zap through very quickly. CBS News was a full meal.
It was much more substantive into sellectually hefty. I mean,
it was still an evening newscast, but it was it
(19:05):
was a much meatier newscast. I am going to set
my recorder because I keep missing it. I'm going to
set my recorder right now to catch that every single night.
I'm very excited the Newberry Weiss's CBS News where they're
vowing that we're not going to listen to advocates and
academics about everything. We're going to try to bring you
the news for everybody. So I'm looking forward to it. Yeah,
(19:27):
it was good. It was again of much meteor content
and most network news. Wow. So speaking of media content,
we played this earlier, but it's just so unbelievable we
got to play it again. This is a journalist by
the name of Brandy Cruz talking to socialist Washington State Rep.
Sean Scott. This is the guy who advocated taxing Amazon
(19:50):
out of Seattle because the workers were using up too
much housing. This guy is a freaking moron. Anyway, dig
this if you will.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
I want you to give me one example, uh of
socialism you think working well somewhere.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
A good example of socialism working well somewhere. It's this
is a really really cool question. I think it's Cuba
in particular, very very high literacy rate, number one, number two,
extremely strong commitment to public health. So that's one example
that I can think of that would resonate with pretty
much anybody in our state who cares about education or
(20:23):
health care. Would you disagree with that?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
All right? So we jumped in the first time we
played this, But then we discovered Brandy did a brilliant job.
Go ahead, people flee.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
On makeshift rafts and die in the ocean to flee
Cuba for the United States.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Yeah, and I think that that is something that absolutely
we have to be sensitive to. But you asked me
about institutions that are working really really well.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
About places socialism is working, and you chose a country
that people will risk their lives to flee from this
to this country. There's a reason for that, Sean.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
There was a revolution in Cuba that is correct.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Still do it to this day. They show up on
the beaches at Miami because they would rather be here
and would risk their lives in shark infested water to
flee the country that you just gave me.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
An example of yeah, well, okay, we need to be
sensitive to that, so there's no getting around that. I mean,
I saw a meme. I don't remember why it was,
but it was. It was back when you had the
wall between East Berlin and West Berlin and socialism so
great you need a wall to keep people in. And
similar to the idea of people risking their lives to
(21:30):
leave Cuba, I mean, there's no arguing with that. People
are willing to die to get out of the country.
I mean, that's all there is to it. Now. The
whole literacy thing that one has been around forever Bernie
Sanders uses or whatever, partially because the government does go
out of their way to make sure everybody can read
at a very minimal level. The government crap propaganda that
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they give them so they are really good at that,
and then people don't don't read at any higher level
than that, so that is true as it goes. Then
the universal healthcare thing, which lefties always take as a
that's all you need to know, government provided health care
for everyone. The fact the way it actually works, whether
it's in Canada, Great Britain or Cuba, they leave out
(22:15):
and it's it's all kinds of a disaster strictly rationed. Yeah,
it doesn't make any difference. You can't hang your hat on.
Everybody can read at the second grade level in Cuba,
so socialism works. I mean, that's that's a crazy claim. Well, right,
And as you pointed out, you could make me an
argument about what a valhalla Cuba is with the like
(22:39):
the brilliance of Christopher Hitchens, the humor of Mark Twain,
and the sincerity of Abraham Lincoln. And then when I
came back to you with but people risk their lives
to flee there, all of your arguments are now a joke.
And nobody you have to know, and nobody's going to there,
(23:00):
No nobody's except like lunatic cop murders from the United States, right, Exactly.
One of the most interesting and moving parts of Judy.
In my trip to Europe at Christmas time of a
year and a half two years ago, I guess, gosh,
it's two years ago now, was touring Bratoslava, which was
behind the Iron Curtain, and the gal who had grown
(23:22):
up there, who's now probably fifty fifty ish, talking about
how they were told the reason they were held in
by a wall was that the West was crumbling, the
quote unquote free world was crumbling, and they were all
desperate to get into the workers' utopia. Wow, and that's
(23:43):
why they had to have a carefully guarded wall. Wow. Yeah, yeah,
no matter how many of them believe that it would
have been easier to keep that quiet back then than
it would be now. Oh yeah, absolutely true. Yeah. And
then finally the last clip was some well go ahead
and play it, it's so stupid. Here's again Washington Representative
(24:04):
Sean Scott.
Speaker 7 (24:05):
And if if the situation were reversed, the injuries and
the ailments that they sustain as a result of migrating
to a place where they believe that they're going to
be better off, I believe that they can be treated
in a much better way than American health care facilities
are currently able to treat people. So that's one example
that I can think of of socialism working.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
In education. This Halfwood's illustration is Okay, so people are
risking their lives, in their children's lives to flee with
nothing of this communist hellhole. But if they were to
get injured while fleeing Cuba, they'd have better healthcare in
Cuba than the United states. Are you did you keep
a straight face through that? Come on? Good? It's an
(24:48):
example for this of socialism working. Yeah, and I know
it's amazing. It is absolutely amazing. I got to admit
I'm a little mystified. But again, to quote you earlier,
we have got to forcefully re re reteach the lessons
of the misery of socialism and communism and the challenge
but the wonderfulness of liberty. We had to We got lazy.
(25:09):
Should have grabbed some of the swearing in speech of
the mayor there. Is it Seattle or is it one
of the other towns in Washington where they Seattle's Katie
wits her face the communist. I saw some of her
speech and she's a young never had a job, one
of those kind of people who let me guess ivy
league education. Yeah, I winyah, Yeah, unbelievable. So we hadn't
(25:30):
intended to talk about that as long as we did.
But it's hard to help ourselves. I want to get
to this real quickly. At least researchers are warning that
AI systems are creating techno social harms through unchecked rumors.
They are voracious spreaders of rumors, and we talked about
this artist who had a showing canceled because AI the
(25:54):
internet was starting to say he was a sex offender,
and he's not not at all. It was a hallucinat
hallucination that just got picked up and picked up and
spread and spread. And they're talking about how all systems
may spread negative evaluations between themselves through shared training data,
creating AI systems, I should say, creating a rumor mill
(26:17):
that operates without human oversight, because with human gossip there
are social constraints about plausibility. I mean, for instance, if
higher rumor that Jack murdered ten hobo is to the
harvest their kidneys and sell them to China, I'd be like, oh,
stop it place. But these machines have no such judgment.
(26:39):
So normal human gossip faces social constraints about plausibility, but
bought to bot gossip is feral, meaning it can become
increasingly exaggerated and distorted as it moves from system to
system without anyone checking out. The claims have gone too far,
and from threatened lawsuits over false accusations to potential and
(26:59):
ployment blacklisting, AI generated gossip has caused reputational damage, professional
harmon even contributed to real world violence when weaponized to
inflame religious tensions, for instance, and tech companies are designing
AI assistance to feel personal and trustworthy. We've talked about
this making users more likely to believe gossip these systems share,
(27:21):
even when that information may be completely false, rumors that
spread between machines. It's wild that as smart as AI is,
they haven't yet come up with something that has the
human ability to say that's not right right. For instance,
the example you had yesterday of you wanted to get
(27:44):
a tattoo of the First Amendment, Yeah, and it got
all the words wrong because it grabbed them from an
image and couldn't well, yeah, the image creator does not sink, well, well,
you need body over the age of like five. I
looked at that as a human and said, well, that's
not right. But the AI couldn't do it right right,
(28:08):
And it explained to me why it was so bad.
But it couldn't say whoa, whoa, that's bad. Let's cross
check with the actual print. I guess it's not capable yet,
but so let's see do we do this or put
it off? I tell you what, why don't we take
a quick break and I'll give you a great example
of how this unfolds in the real world. It's it's
bizarre and troubling and almost funny, honestly, unless you're the
(28:28):
dude in question. No kidding. We'll finish strong next.
Speaker 8 (28:36):
A growing number of patients are getting butt lifts using
fat from dead people. I know, leading many to believe
that Kim Kardashian is a serial killer.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
So when people they take their fat and inject it
into my hind end, if I wanted a higher hind end,
it seems to be the prem here. I don't see
how that would benefit my life really, bit Okay, well yeah, okay,
I don't really want to get into butt fashion. Maybe tomorrow. Yeah,
(29:12):
it's funny how it comes and goes anyway, Beauty standards
in short. So before the break, we were talking about
the fact that AI systems can be vicious gossips, and
unlike human beings, they have feral gossip. It's out in
the wild and there are no human constraints about like plausibility. Yeah,
(29:32):
Jack was having sex with space aliens and they produced
a weird tentacle. Baby. No, they didn't shut up, but
the AI systems don't know that. So Kevin Ruth. If
you have a photographic memory, you may remember that name,
but I don't. I didn't thought his strangest AI experience
was behind him. This was the New York Times Tech
report who made headlines a couple of years ago after
(29:54):
Microsoft's bing a chatbot confessed its love for him and
urged him to leave his We talked about that a lot. Yeah,
we're all nodding our heads, all right. But months later
friends started sending him screenshots revealing something even more unsettling.
AI chatbots from completely different companies were generating hostile evaluations
(30:15):
of him. Google's Gemini, for instance, claimed Ruth's journalism focused
on sensationalism. Meta's a lama III. He went further, producing
a multi paragraph rant accusing him of manipulating sources and
ending with a blunt declaration, I hate Kevin Ruse. These
weren't isolated incidents a random glitches multiple chatbots that apparently
(30:36):
developed negative associations with rus and the researchers argue this
information may have spread from one AI system to another,
as online discussions about the whole weird Sydney that was
the name of the bing chatbot Sydney telling him to
leave his wife. Discussions got scraped into training data, potentially
mutating and intensifying it along the way. In other words,
(30:56):
as people were discussing it and joking and crack Pot's
weight in or whatever, the AI just sucked it all
up and said, oh, yeah, yeah, that's true. It's got
to be true. People are saying it on the internet. Yeah.
There is a concern with this language learning model thing
where it just sucks up information from around the internet,
that how are you going to stop misinformation disinformation if
(31:20):
something's out there that false and it treats everything exactly
the same. I mean this is this could perpetuate things
in a way that human beings only dreamed of, right, right,
And they talk about how all traditional gossip requires a speaker,
a listener, and an absent subject, and that there's bot
(31:42):
to user gossip when users ask chatbots directly about humans
blah blah blah. But bot to bot got gossip happens
when information spreads between systems through shared trending yet or
integrated networks with no humans involved, and it just goes wild.
We got into talking about AI with my family. Get
together a bunch of college students or newly in the
(32:03):
workplace type people, and everybody's using it in different ways,
and then the ways you use it in school. Everybody
uses it for school to varying levels of what they
feel like they're okay with in terms of helping them
with a paper. And some of it, you know, you
can completely see. Sure, that's fine, but where it crosses
(32:25):
the line into I mean, guess, how do you not
write your paper as a twenty year old college sophomore,
how do you not write your paper and run it
through AI to like, you know, Frich grammatical errors or
an inconsistency or anything like. How would you not do that?
(32:46):
I don't know, to stop myself from doing it. It's
not having it write the paper, but it's just catching
any obvious problems. Oh, that's funny. I hadn't even thought
of that, right, Yeah, that's sure. It's a proofreader. It's
a machine proofreader. Is that that's legal? Suger, isn't it?
I don't know. Well, that's that's what the question got into,
is And then there was one of them said their
professor expected like fifteen percent of the paper to be AI.
(33:10):
They just knew that that was gonna happen or something.
I don't know how you'd quantify that sort of thing,
but it just seems unrealistic. I could see, you know,
back in the day, I was surrounded by a stack
of books, but asking AI, Hey, I'm I'm writing a
ten page paper against tariffs. What are the main points
I should include? I mean, and that's a that's a
(33:31):
learning tool to me. I understand that it crosses the
line very easily to aid keep you from learning tool.
But I'm gonna write a paper about John Brown his
positive Zen negatives. I'm supposed to like go through book
by book and come up with myself. So when AI
can do it in a couple of seconds, then I
write a paper about it. Is that cheating? I don't know,
(33:51):
it's not using certain muscles that human beings need. Probably
more on that to come.
Speaker 7 (33:58):
I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
To Yeah, here's your host for final thoughts, Joe getting Yeah. Hey,
let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew.
There is Michaelangelow pressent the buttons, our technical director. Michael,
what's your final I know this is terrible.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I've been sitting here for the last half hour thinking
about that girl Scout cookie flavor of Rocky Road. Every
year I'm a sucker for the Girl Scouts that I
want to buy one box, I end up with three
or four.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Well, you're helping, you're helping young women learn about that.
Justify exactly what you freeze them? You have like one
after a meal? Yeah, off the pole, eat some cookies.
That's right, well, said Katie Green or a steam newswoman
is cringing and she has a final funk, Katie.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Yeah, to take it in another direction, just to show
how fast time flies.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I am halfway through my pregnancy today. Oh wow, isn't
that crazy? Yeah, that's crazy. Golly, gee check. Did you
have a final thought for us? I do? Seven days
in I still haven't eaten the dessert. I'm counting all
kin cookies, pies, cake, salt cookies. When you mentioned that
about oh man, no cookies, hear no boy Scout or
(35:12):
Girl Scout cookies. Damn? I am two Final thoughts Number one.
The ham kick segment was one of the funniest and
most amazing things I've ever heard the hour or segment
one of this Hour a Second Thought. We're about to
chat with Ian Bremer about the Eurasia Group's annual Top
Risks for twenty twenty six, which will be available as
an Armstrong and Getty extra large podcast. Always fun and
(35:35):
informative to talk to Ian, so looking forward to that.
I feel like they had more fun back in the
old days with ham Kicks and whatnot, arms Strong and
Geeddy wrapping up the other're grueling four hour workday so funny,
so many people. Thanks a little time. Go to Armstronggeeddy
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See tomorrow, God bless America. I'm strong and get it.
The choice of waking up to sex or waking up
to the smell of bacon in the house. If the
smell of bacon was in the air, it might even
(36:15):
be hard to concentrate on loving because you keep thinking, wow, Wow,
there's fresh bacon. It's getting cold. You're going bacon first.
That's just I'm just analyzed. I'm with you. I don't
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