September 2, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- A weekend crime surge in Chicago....
- Joe tours London...
- A new poll on our pessimism...
- Jack goes to Cracker Barrel!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Ketty Armstrong and Jetty
and now he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Are you prepared to defend this land? This land that
was built by slaves, a layan that was built by
indigenous people, a lan that's built by workers.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Are you prepared to defend this land?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
The people United will always prevail. I need you all
to stand firm, to stand strong.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
That's the mayor of Chicago on news that Yeah, looks
like Trump is going to send National Guard troops to Chicago.
Now a federal judge has just ruled, like like in
the last hour that Trump violated a law sending National
Guard troops to Los Angeles. But we'll ignore that and
(01:09):
focus on Chicago. So that's the mayor. Boy, that's if
there ends up being violence, that that clip ought to
be replayed.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Are you prepared to defend your land? Land built by
slaves and indigenous people?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
You know, I grew up in Chicago Land, and I
don't think there was a great deal of slave labor
that built Chicago. I'm pretty sure it was a bunch
of poor white people. Well not no offense to anybody.
What a moron, Brandon Johnson is well silly. So here's
one of the interesting things about going on vacation. It
gives us a chance to take in the news the
way some of you do, or a lot of America does.
(01:49):
Where because I wasn't paying that close attention. So I
see a headline here and there, I hear a phrase
here and there, but I'm not doing a deep dive.
And all I heard over the weekend was fifty some
people shot in Chicago. Yeah, yeah, that was a pretty
good Labor Day weekend. Actually it's down a some people
shot in Chicago. So I just think overall that, like
(02:12):
the message coming out to people who are barely paying
attention is, jeez, did you hear fifty people were shot
and seven people are dead in Chicago from one weekend?
And did you hear Trump sending the National Guard? That's
all most people are ever gonna hear. How do you
think that's gonna poll? I think they're gonna poll pretty well,
absolutely think it will. It's absolutely horrific.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
It was funny.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I was watching ABC or looking at ABC News's account
of this, and they, you know, they recounted the utterly
astounding numbers, and then took great pains to point out
that violence is actually down, and Trump is oline and
it's terrible and he's a dictator, and it's like, how
many dozens of people need to be gunned down in
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the streets before you think this is an unpleasant way
to live. Well, you're looking at it from the rality
on the ground, which is one way to look at it.
I'm looking at it just from the politics, just like
the thirty thousand foot politics. How do you think that
is working for you? The whole DC is not dangerous,
Chicago's not dangerous. LA's not dangerous screaming that to people?
(03:14):
Do you think that that's what most people believe or
are feeling? How are you so on the wrong side
of this issue? So to that, I thought this was
interesting on News Nation today where the host was asking,
I don't know some guests about how it's worked out
in the couple of weeks that there have been National
Guard troops on the ground in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Here's a little of that.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Is there any way that learns what we're seeing in DC?
But many leaders locals here, you know, we heard this
in the protests yesterday say that why not send federal
funding for things like youth outreach crime prevention programs instead.
Is there any way that both sides could meet in
the middle on something like this.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Absolutely, the community out each funds for the community. I mean,
those things help. The fact is that a lot of
this violence is happening in poorer neighborhoods. But you know,
when you send the resources like I mean that.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
One, I'm sorry, I don't think this is what I
thought it was.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
So this was they ask a guy on there about
how things have gone in Washington, d C. In the
couple of weeks they've had National Guard troops there, and
he listed all the statistics on how break ins are
down one hundred and eighty percent, there wasn't a murder
for the first time. And I don't know how many
years in one week that the National Guard troops are
all the crime being down, down, down, And so the
(04:36):
various Democratic politicians can go around yelling about crime is
down from last year.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
We don't need the troops all you want, But I.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Just don't think that's what is going to resonate with people, right.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I would agree completely.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
It's one more example of where the messaging from the
professional or activist class is completely divorced from people's lives.
I mean, how many you know a fairly brave Democrat
stood up and said, yeah, look the stats and all,
I'm familiar with them, but it's unsafe and I'm scared
all the time, and I don't like living like that.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Right, that's the way normal human beings look at it. Now.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Is Trump allowed to send the National Guard? Could get
a long term solution?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
You know, what are the league?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Gal?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
These are all fairly interesting questions, but the knee jerk
rejection of it is just well, it's Trump derangement syndrome,
I think, plus just this delusional need to for Trump
to be wrong about everything, and he's wrong about plenty,
but he's not wrong about this.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
No.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
And then again politically at thirty thousand feet, I just
I just think it's absolutely gonna be a net win
for law and order politically, over whether a federal judge
says you violated these eighteen seventy five something or other
act by sending National Guard troops, most people won't even
ever hear that headline.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Uh, let alone care about it. If they do, people
like law and order, well.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, and The proof is what headlines have you seen
out of DC lately about you know, a rogue guardsmen
running rough shot over the populace or brutality or them,
but you know, eating in restaurants and not.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Paying or whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Nothing, nothing, but yeah, there's there's no crime because you know,
the bad guys look around and think, yeah, not here,
not now. So an interesting angle to this, another thing
that happened while we were gone, and I don't I
don't like where our politics are right now, does anybody?
This has been headed this way with many presidents in
a row now. But for instance, Trump signed an executive
(06:42):
order about flag burning a week ago, which got headlines
as you would expect outlaw.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
You know, you're they're gonna arrest.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
People for flag burning, Except for the actual executive order,
I mean, if you read the details of it says specifically,
we will not violate First Amendment rights or any court
rulings around this. We'll only arrest you if you're committing
a different crime. So basically it says we aren't going
to arrestu you for burning the flag.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
We can't and we won't.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
But it got the overall veneer of we're going to
crack down on flag burning. People hate flag burning. The
pulling on that has been very consistent for very many years.
People do not like flag burning. So Trump gets the
whole I'm against flag burning win while not actually violating
anybody's rights. There are going to be people, guaranteed Democrats,
(07:34):
burning flags to try to thumb in the eye. That
will be on TV at night. You'll see the evening
news of people burning flags. The evening newscast will think
everybody's a progressive like them and are happy about it.
But that's not real. Most of America sees flag burning
hippies and hates it. Eighty percent of America says flag
burnings ought to be met with nose flattenings, all right,
(07:56):
but we put up with it because we cherish our freedom. Yeah,
it's a complete mystery again of the professional ideologues on
left of where the American people really are. The problem
with where we're going though, of course, is all this
performative stuff like Trump pretending he's cracking down in flag
burning knowing he can't, is the same to me as
Joe Biden pretending he went around the Supreme Court to
(08:20):
wipe out student loans when he didn't, Right, But they
like our current presidents now like pretending they're sticking it
to Congress or sticking it to.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
The law or whatever to stand up for you.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And none of this performative stuff is well gonna take
us in the right direction. It's all online heat it
really any Do you have any interest in Joe Scarborough
and Brandon Johnson? I just any opportunity to kick that
jackass union horror. Sorry, this is a strong word, folks.
I shouldn't have said horror. I should have said horror.
(08:54):
Brandon Johnson, He's a rotten human being to the core,
an awful mayor and a half wit to boat. Joe
Scarborough recent returney to sanity, it grilled him the other day.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
We all want the dignity of people in Chicago protected.
Fifty four people shot this weekend in Chicago, seven killed,
I mean, and.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Those numbers just keep piling up, Okay, and then next
one JB. Prinsker should do something radical.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
I think you should pick up the phone, call the
president and say you know, and I know, you don't
have the constitutional authority to deploy the National Guard here
and to police. You can do that in DC, you
can't do that in Chicago. But let's partner up. These
are the most dangerous parts of my state. We would
love to figure out how to have a partnership that's constitutional,
(09:54):
that respects the sort of balance of federalism between the
federal government and the state government. And let's work together
to save lives because right now, just hey, nothing to
see here, moving along, no problem here, Hey, Donald Trump,
we don't need you. And you know the mayor talking
about we're going to protect people's dignity in our city.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
We'll protect their lives. That's protecting their dignity.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
You're laying there bleeding out your belly. You're not so
worried about your dignity. But that would be if our
government kind of worked, if we would act that way.
But we don't act that way at any level anymore.
At any level, right you play to the most online
part of your constituency that's going to raise the most
money or send out the most tweets. The idea of
(10:43):
calmly addressing a problem and coming up with a solution,
you ain't gonna get any headlines with that. I don't know,
I don't know how we get out of this situation. Yeah,
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Speaker 1 (12:05):
So I don't know about you.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I don't get personal calls from Donald Trump and Brandon Johnson.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I wouldn't take his.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Call, and the various newsmakers in America with very few exceptions.
I hear it all through with the media, and the
media has every interest in ratcheting up the angst and
the anger and the heat, the online heat we were
just talking about too. And I just at some point,
I mean it's like, you know, have you ever vacation
(12:32):
in Mexico and you step off the plane, you walk
through the term a little bit, and you got a
dozen different guys trying to sell you, you know, time
shares and boat rides and god knows whatever else.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
You just have to start looking at the media, like
you look at those guys.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Oh, why honey, here is an honest broker with an
excellent offer on a time share opportunity. No nobody thinks that.
They think, all right, here's some scumbags come to take
my money. And I think we need to realize that
that's where our media is to a large extent. I
just can't believe Trump can can be puppetmaster to big
name democrats so easily and have their voices out over
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the next twenty four hours talking about don't send help
to Chicago with underneath the headline fifty shot seven dead.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Last year was sixty one. It's improving. That is crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
You have any thoughts on that text line four one
five five KFTC. He went to Iowa over the weekend.
I want to tell the story later because it went
to the one room schoolhouse from my dad went to
school in the middle of nowhere, Iowa, and took my
son there and it was really cool. So more on
that later. Wow, how many genders were there when he
(13:46):
was in that school? Just the two I Meanwhile, I
was in Great Britain in England, London mostly thanks to everybody, Hey,
thanks to everybody who made all sorts of great suggestions
for what we got to do. You know, we ended
up not doing like museums all the time, partly because
(14:07):
and they've got some incredible museums obviously, like every great
city in the western world does. But I thought you know,
I'd been a lifelong Anglophile, fascinating by the music, literature, politics, comedy,
just all of it, and I'd never been and I
just thought that's crazy. So this was like a week
long date with London in England to get to know
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each other.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And so I thought, art museum.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
There's art museums everywhere, now this has a particularly great collection,
blah blah blah. But no, let's not spend an afternoon
in art museum. Let's walk the streets and blah blah blah.
So it was great fun. Day one hopped on the
famous red double decker buses and rode around all day,
partly because we were exhausted from travel and jet lagged
(14:53):
and the rest of it. It's five hours ahead of
the East coast, eight hours ahead of the West coast,
and so day one and two especially exhausted, yet overcaffeinated.
Just a delightful feeling that just makes you want to
wrap your arms around the world and good on your stomach.
Oh god, yeah, good point. So I at one point
(15:15):
I thought I'm never leaving home again. And then you know,
by day three, we're just plugged in and just love it.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I'm never leaving home again.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, I mean I had that weird paranoid, exhausted, hunted
beast feeling going, you know, get.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Me all of them where wolves in London? Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
But anyway, so we rode around on the big red
bus for hours and hours and just to get the
lay land. And here is my encapsulation of our quite
a few hours on the bus. Kings and Queen's wars, churches, disease, pollution, crime,
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more wars, floods and fires, another war, several more kings,
and brothels, lots of brothels.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
That's pretty much your big city tour.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
There you go, war, death, disease and brothels and architecture too.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
And then let's see another note of note.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
The one museum we did spend a lot of time
at was the British Museum, which is the actual name
of It. Wasn't exactly what I expected, but we had
a guide, which was cool. It has the most incredible
collection of antiquities, like prehistoric and like the dawn of
history stuff. Literally the oldest writing ever found on earth.
(16:45):
You can look at it with your beady eyes, the
oldest book, the oldest scroll, the oldest everything from ancient
languages that either nobody can still translate or they just
learned to translate, you know a century ago with the
Rosetta Stone and the actual Rosetta Stone right there. Yeah, Well,
it's one of the best museums in the world, partially
because Britain was the most powerful country in the world
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for a very very long time, back in the day
where there are no rules around this sort of thing,
and so they were able to grab up stuff from
all around the world, right And the modern woke take
on that is they grabbed up stuff from around the
world and took it and they ought to give it back.
I There is some of that, absolutely, but there are many,
many stories where some of the most incredible and important
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of their discoveries nobody gave a crap right in that country,
especially at the time it would have been destroyed or
just lost. The British were like, this is really important.
This needs to be preserved. We're going to painstakingly excavate it,
take it back to Britain, study it, try to figure
out its significance, connect it to other points in history.
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Because they were modern in a way that a lot
of these countries weren't at all. They sold they Oh
you want to you want our greatest antiquity.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I'm the king.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Give me a thousand bucks. They sold the stuff, they
didn't give a crap. The Brits didn't steal a lot
of it. They preserved it. Power Ball is at one
point three billion dollars. Not much of a news story,
but uh, that's a lot of money. Oh, we got
other actual news stories on the way. If you missed
a second, we get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on
demand Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
Desmond Watson, the four hundred and fifty pounds heaviest player
in NFL history, has been cut by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
He will now go back to his old job as
Stacy Abram's body double.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Michael.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Wow, Michael, that is out a line even bringing that
joke to us, never mind airing it.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
That's full. It was a setup. That's why I chose it.
Four hundred and fifty pound linemen.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
That's some biggest player ever in NFL history. But couldn't
move fast enough. Maybe they couldn't afford to feed him,
that's it. Or they couldn't get him on the plane.
Oh he couldn't go to away games?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Wow? Wow, have to hire a flatbed. Right.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Oh see, that's insensitive and I regret it. Michael, you
started this, I'm sorry. So coming up a really interesting
front page story in British newspapers while I was there
about the left's desperation to give children the vote. We're
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talking sixteen and seventeen year olds, the absolute naked strategy there,
and interestingly polls of British teenagers that might as well
have been done in the US, including the unbelievable divide
between boys and girls politically.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
So that coming up next hour. Stay with us.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Well, I'm just looking at the headline on CNN. President
she of China to host Russia Iran in North Korea
a military parade. This is like the thirties Germany stuff,
not the usual Trump is Hitler thirty two. This is
like the world's worst people getting together and talking about
starting some s. Right, Russia Iran in North Korea in
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a military parade. Anyway, more on that later. We are
the most pessimistic economically that we have ever been, according
to those Wall Street Journal nork Pole that is out
that found that the share of people who say they
have a good chance of improving their standard of living,
so that's a question, do you feel like you've got
a good chance of improving your standard of living? It
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fell to twenty five percent. That's a record low dating
back to nineteen eighty seven. More than that is horrified.
It is horrifying. More than three quarters said they lack
confidence that life for the next generation will be better
than their.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Own, The Pole found. Let me think about that question
for a a while. Do I think.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Do I think that life for my kids will be
better than mine? I don't know that I do, but
I wouldn't put it all around economics. Here's a question,
in a preliminary question before you ask that question, is
the American assumption that every generation will be better off
than the previous, which began, you know in the twentieth
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century when America was, you know, just stood.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Alone as an economic superpower.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Is that expectation realistic in the twenty first century, I
would argue it's not.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
No. I think it was a blip in time and odd.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah, how could you craft any system where you can
always expect your kids to do better than you? Well,
we could bomb Europe back to the Stone Age and
do the same day age, I guess, because that's what
it took.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
The first time.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I should ask my plus head start because we're an optimistic,
freedom loving, entrepreneurial people, or at least I thought so
until this poll came out. Back to the poland just
a second minute, and I'll tell this story about visiting
Iowa and my dad's side of the family with my son.
But we're talking to my dad and we're at his
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older sister's house, who's ninety four. She's still alive and
as with it as can be, and we all went
out eat and everything like that. But they're talking about
when they were kids and they grew up with no electricity,
no running water, going to school in a horse drawn wagon.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I mean, like it was eighteen ten.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
But I doubt they ever even thought about will my
economic situation be better than my parents? It's just what
are we going to eat today? How do I get warm?
I think I don't know where we came up with
this standard.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Well, right, and.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
As baselines go, I mean, it's pretty easy for the
next generation to do better, really right anyway, So it's
only twenty five percent of people who say they have
a good chance of improving their standard of living and
seventy five percent lack confidence that life for the next
generation would be better than our own. Nearly seventy percent
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of people said they believe the American dream that if
you work hard, you will get ahead no longer holds
true or never did. I don't agree with that the
highest level of nearly fifteen years of surveys. I do
believe that if you work hard, you will get ahead.
I think that's clearly true. And you're using and if
you don't believe it's true, you're using it as an
excuse to not try hard.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
That's what I believe.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Will it necessarily get you as far ahead as soon
as you'd hoped?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Probably not. Well, are you rich and famous?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
No? And I know that's the standard for a lot
of people. If you're not rich and famous, then it
was a failure.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Boy.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Optimism has powered this country since the beginning, since before
it was a country, and belief in self anyway, more
of the numbers, well, so that bothers me way more
than those other numbers, though that they made the headline
in the Wall Street Journal, the fact that you can't
think you can get ahead, or your kid's going to
be better off or whatever. Okay, you can pick around that,
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but the idea that if you work hard you'll get ahead.
Very few people believe that. That is the most troubling
statistic to me of all.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
It's defeatism. Where does that come from? I don't know.
I find this so troubling.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
What in your life experience are looking around you leads
you to believe that? You know, I can picture people
having done all the right things and then their industry
changing very suddenly, being rattled by that and having a
bad attitude about it. I did all the right things,
and I still look at me, I'm screwed. That's a
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discouraging thing. It absolutely is. But the fact that sometimes
it doesn't work out the way you had hoped doesn't mean.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
That your premise wasn't accurate.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
In general, working hard, looking for opportunities, believing in yourself
is good.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It's not only good, it's necessary.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Does it always pan out as quickly as a rich
is blah blah blah?
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Or sometimes do you get screwed? Yeah? Certain percentage of
the time.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Well maybe it's an expectations always been Well, that's yeah,
that's what I'm driving it.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
You said it in far fewer words.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
It's all expectations then, because if you ever have the
idea that I've gotten into an industry and now I'm
set for life. That was an unrealistic expectation. Now here's
a stupid, stupid aspect of this poland that's that there's
a long standing trend that the party holding the White
House has a rosier view of the economy than.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Whoever's out of power.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Fifty five percent of Republicans had a negative view of
the prospects for themselves and their children over half of Republicans,
it was ninety percent of Democrats ninety percent. Because what
kind of message do you think they're giving to those
aforementioned children?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Right? Good lord boy?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
And that's what's that saying that I've never quite understood
whether you think you can or think you can't. You're right, yes,
uh but yeah, if you're telling your kids every day
or telling yourself every day, you can't get ahead, You
just can't.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Well let me guess how that's going to turn out.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, working hard and looking for opportunities and trying to
change the world.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
That won't do me any good anyway. So I'm not
gonna Wow, what a depressing poll that is.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Yeah, Well, one of the guys behind it, this Stanford
economics professor who is one of the good guys at Stanford.
I'm going to shame Stanford with all of my might
as soon as I can. They are just woke and
sick anyway. But this guy, Neil Mahoney says it sort
of saddens me. I think one of our superpowers as
a country is our relentless optimism. It is the fuel
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for entrepreneurship and other exceptional achievements.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
But it's not just optimism. It's also true if you
work hard, you will get ahead.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, eventually, sure, as opposed to what, by the way,
getting ahead by not working hard or doing nothing? I
mean what i'd I don't even understand. I barely understand
the question. You know, one of the most interesting and
powerful things I've read in the last several years. I
(27:09):
can't remember who said this, I've got to look it up,
but they said success is temporary because you.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Want to go out and prove it again.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
You've got other hills to climb, more challenges to take on,
or you know, just staying on top so that challenge
never ends.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
If you quit, that's permanent.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
That's the warm, huggy blanket of I'm not even gonna
try because there's no point in it, and everybody's against me.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And that's why I have a bad life.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
That is like a drug that you take once and
it numbs you forever. Hmmm, that's why it's so attractive
to people. Does that sound ugly and judgmental?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Good.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I'm on a big Bruce Springsteen kick. But I remember
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on this big Bruce Strip Springsteen kick for a while
his music, and I started reading his autobiography Over the
Vacation and everything like that, really interesting stuff. As an artist,
(29:24):
his view of economics and politics is insane and it's
hard to overlook to enjoy the music. But I remember
seeing a video of him way back in the day
and he said basically what this poll is saying. Unfortunately.
He said, they've been selling that lie forever, and he
was talking about working hard to get ahead. They've been
selling that lie to people like us, our whole lives.
(29:46):
And I thought, wow, what a depressing view of the
world that somebody is selling you. What advantage did they
get out of that? What advantage is the somebody getting
out of selling you the law that if you work
hard you'll get ahead, And what is your alternative method? Again,
I can barely wrap my head around the premise of this. Well,
(30:09):
I think like half wit Marxist, like Bruce, and he's
not a half wit in general. He's a very good writer,
but he just he has practically a child's view of
these things. He would say, Well, they convince you to
go down to the factory and bust your ass and
you wear out your back and then you're still poor,
and that's the lie they're selling. Well, dude, you figured
(30:29):
out what you were good at then worked like crazy
to become successful at it. I know your story. Why
is that true for you? But it's a fantasy for
everybody else because you're the special man or you just
got lucky or what.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I just I don't understand the reasoning.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yeah, you know what's weird about this pole is the
number of people who rate the economy as excellent or
good is up significantly.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
There, well, last and it sucks. It was a different
poll last week while you're gone. But there is a
certain amount of Oh, I'm fine, but it's bad for
everybody else that's going on in polling right now, which
is a strange phenomenon. I'm doing okay. I think we're
going to be okay my family, but it's really rough
out there for everybody else, which is its own weird negativity.
Right right now, housing is really really difficult now for
(31:19):
young people, it's brutally hard. So what are you going
to do? Quit because ninety percent of Democrats think there's
no point. I mean, that's that's a miserable philosophy of life.
It really is, you know, I I don't know. I'm
profoundly discouraged about humanity right now. We are not facing
(31:43):
we you, your kids, your grandkids, your great grandparents. All
of us face our own set of challenges in the
times we live.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
And sometimes it's world wars. Sometimes it's horrific pandemics.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Sometimes it's just pretty bad pandemics that the government fs
up the response so badly it makes everybody miserable. Anyway,
everybody has their own list, every single generation that's ever lived.
Just because guys could stumble out of high school in
nineteen fifty onto an assembly line and make a good
living and raise a couple of kids, then retire with
a pension for like a blip.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
That's not where our expectations need to be said. It's
just not a good way to be a human being.
Try to be good at being a human being.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
That's a good tea shirt. Try to be good at
being a human being. What was the thing you said
you got coming up? I want to something. Oh that
is excited. British lefties are trying desperately to get children
to vote.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Gee, why do you think that might be?
Speaker 3 (32:50):
We got a full hour dedicated to Travis and Taylor
getting married, so of course we'll take a look at
the ring and the proposal.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
All of it kill me. It's there, armstrong, heyety.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
Taylor swift engagement post on Instagram has made history for
having the most likes in one day. It beat the
previous record set by Rashida Taleb announcing she bought a razor.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
So I mentioned Taylor Swift's ring. I did think it
was kind of interesting. I came across she got.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Heirloom style and apparently that's the trendy new style for
jewelry is for stuff to look like it's like really
really old that your grandmother gave you. If your grandmother
happened to give you a sixty carr or whatever the.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Hell was she was married to a Rockefeller.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Ye, but the heirloom style, it's not the big blingy fancy.
It's like flat and not as shiny anyway, So that's
what they did. I got to jump into one of
the controversies of the last couple of weeks, the whole
cracker barrel thing as we went to cracker barrel. Well,
I was so I flew to Kansas and then we
(34:03):
drove up to Iowa, and then during the trip we
ate a crackerber. Cracker Barrell got talked about a lot
just because he was in the news so much, and like,
so I'm talking to people that have all been to
cracker barrel lots, like I've been to our one hundred times.
My parents have been there, and we all been there
at the time, none of us. If you did ask
us three weeks ago, who's the guy on the sign,
(34:23):
we would have all responded with there's a guy on
the sign.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Every single one of us.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
It wasn't, well, that's beloved uncle Herschel the very important.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
You know, I don't know a figure.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
That represents Cracker Barrel and I couldn't eat there if
you weren't on the sign. I mean, none of us
even knew there was a guy on the sign, which
is funny. And then who decided that it was woke
what Cracker Barrew was doing.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I don't quite get that.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
It seems to me they're just like updating their brand
a little.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
And for whatever.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Reason I do, I didn't really follow it. The amount
of controversy he got was tremendous. And then and then
you know, and then they constant backpedaling and trying to
clean it up of the CEO, which is, you know,
hilarious always when these people do that. Now, if it is,
as the rumors say, gonna go to some sort of
like it looks like a Starbucks on the inside, like
(35:20):
the booths and the modern look, I can see where
that's gonna turn off a lot of the customers who
like the old time you look. But the main thing
that I do think is great if this is true,
the little triangle game. So you take the little pigs
and you move them around and you try to end
up with one peg, which I've never been able to
do once in my life. It's an IQ test, Jack
says right at the top. My brother regularly gets down
(35:41):
to one peg. Even as a little kid, I was
never able to do better than two. I did get
two over the weekend while I was eating my chicken
fried chicken with hash browns and eggs over easy. I
got it down to two. But what it says on
the little triangle thing, I don't know. You probably don't
know this, Joe. If you get it down to one,
it says genius. If you get it down to it
says pretty smart. If you get it down to three,
(36:03):
it says I forget something. You need to try harder.
And if it's four, it says you're an ignoramus. Well, apparently,
the new triangle thing it's all positive stuff. It's like
the we all get a participation certificate for playing soccer
as an eight year old even though we couldn't play.
It's all like that. It's like one, nice job, Two,
still a nice job. Three, try better number four, You're
(36:25):
still we still love you?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
You know that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Because I thought it was too mean to call people
then remis I guess.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
We've gone so soft as a country.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
You know, I regularly failed at that little logic puzzle
as a youngster, and it didn't discourage me. I went
ahead and showed up to school as an ignoramus and
got less ignorant. No, that's not the way I did it.
The first time I got four and it said I
was an ignoramus. I put my head in my hands
and I thought, I am doomed. I'm doomed in life.
I have taken this important test. I did not pass it.
(36:56):
I quit school, and that's why I live under a
bridge doing math right now.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I picked it up and.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
I fired it right off the waitress' forehead, and a
she bled.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I yelled, who you call?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
By the way, the first cracker barrel we stopped at
had an hour wait, so we drove down the interstate
to the next one that had a forty five minute wait.
They got more free advertising for their business in the
last couple of weeks. You couldn't buy it with billions
of dollars. Yeah, I have more to say on why
I think people were outraged, but we're out of time.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
We do several more hours.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Are you prepared to defend this land? This land that
was built by slaves, a layan that was built by
indigenous people, a lan that's built by workers.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Are you prepared to defend this land?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
The people United will always prevail. I need you all
to stand firm, to stand strong.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
That's the mayor of Chicago on news that Yeah, looks
like Trump is going to send National Guard troops to Chicago.
Now a federal judge has just ruled, like like in
the last hour that Trump violated a law sending National
Guard troops to Los Angeles. But we'll ignore that and
(01:09):
focus on Chicago. So that's the mayor. Boy, that's if
there ends up being violence, that that clip ought to
be replayed.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Are you prepared to defend your land? Land built by
slaves and indigenous people?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
You know, I grew up in Chicago Land, and I
don't think there was a great deal of slave labor
that built Chicago. I'm pretty sure it was a bunch
of poor white people. Well not no offense to anybody.
What a moron, Brandon Johnson is well silly. So here's
one of the interesting things about going on vacation. It
gives us a chance to take in the news the
way some of you do, or a lot of America does.
(01:49):
Where because I wasn't paying that close attention. So I
see a headline here and there, I hear a phrase
here and there, but I'm not doing a deep dive.
And all I heard over the weekend was fifty some
people shot in Chicago. Yeah, yeah, that was a pretty
good Labor Day weekend. Actually it's down a some people
shot in Chicago. So I just think overall that, like
(02:12):
the message coming out to people who are barely paying
attention is, jeez, did you hear fifty people were shot
and seven people are dead in Chicago from one weekend?
And did you hear Trump sending the National Guard? That's
all most people are ever gonna hear. How do you
think that's gonna poll? I think they're gonna poll pretty well,
absolutely think it will. It's absolutely horrific.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
It was funny.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I was watching ABC or looking at ABC News's account
of this, and they, you know, they recounted the utterly
astounding numbers, and then took great pains to point out
that violence is actually down, and Trump is oline and
it's terrible and he's a dictator, and it's like, how
many dozens of people need to be gunned down in
(02:53):
the streets before you think this is an unpleasant way
to live. Well, you're looking at it from the rality
on the ground, which is one way to look at it.
I'm looking at it just from the politics, just like
the thirty thousand foot politics. How do you think that
is working for you? The whole DC is not dangerous,
Chicago's not dangerous. LA's not dangerous screaming that to people?
(03:14):
Do you think that that's what most people believe or
are feeling? How are you so on the wrong side
of this issue? So to that, I thought this was
interesting on News Nation today where the host was asking,
I don't know some guests about how it's worked out
in the couple of weeks that there have been National
Guard troops on the ground in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Here's a little of that.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Is there any way that learns what we're seeing in DC?
But many leaders locals here, you know, we heard this
in the protests yesterday say that why not send federal
funding for things like youth outreach crime prevention programs instead.
Is there any way that both sides could meet in
the middle on something like this.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Absolutely, the community out each funds for the community. I mean,
those things help. The fact is that a lot of
this violence is happening in poorer neighborhoods. But you know,
when you send the resources like I mean that.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
One, I'm sorry, I don't think this is what I
thought it was.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
So this was they ask a guy on there about
how things have gone in Washington, d C. In the
couple of weeks they've had National Guard troops there, and
he listed all the statistics on how break ins are
down one hundred and eighty percent, there wasn't a murder
for the first time. And I don't know how many
years in one week that the National Guard troops are
all the crime being down, down, down, And so the
(04:36):
various Democratic politicians can go around yelling about crime is
down from last year.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
We don't need the troops all you want, But I.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Just don't think that's what is going to resonate with people, right.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I would agree completely.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
It's one more example of where the messaging from the
professional or activist class is completely divorced from people's lives.
I mean, how many you know a fairly brave Democrat
stood up and said, yeah, look the stats and all,
I'm familiar with them, but it's unsafe and I'm scared
all the time, and I don't like living like that.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Right, that's the way normal human beings look at it. Now.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Is Trump allowed to send the National Guard? Could get
a long term solution?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
You know, what are the league?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Gal?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
These are all fairly interesting questions, but the knee jerk
rejection of it is just well, it's Trump derangement syndrome,
I think, plus just this delusional need to for Trump
to be wrong about everything, and he's wrong about plenty,
but he's not wrong about this.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
No.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
And then again politically at thirty thousand feet, I just
I just think it's absolutely gonna be a net win
for law and order politically, over whether a federal judge
says you violated these eighteen seventy five something or other
act by sending National Guard troops, most people won't even
ever hear that headline.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Uh, let alone care about it. If they do, people
like law and order, well.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, and The proof is what headlines have you seen
out of DC lately about you know, a rogue guardsmen
running rough shot over the populace or brutality or them,
but you know, eating in restaurants and not.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Paying or whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Nothing, nothing, but yeah, there's there's no crime because you know,
the bad guys look around and think, yeah, not here,
not now. So an interesting angle to this, another thing
that happened while we were gone, and I don't I
don't like where our politics are right now, does anybody?
This has been headed this way with many presidents in
a row now. But for instance, Trump signed an executive
(06:42):
order about flag burning a week ago, which got headlines
as you would expect outlaw.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
You know, you're they're gonna arrest.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
People for flag burning, Except for the actual executive order,
I mean, if you read the details of it says specifically,
we will not violate First Amendment rights or any court
rulings around this. We'll only arrest you if you're committing
a different crime. So basically it says we aren't going
to arrestu you for burning the flag.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
We can't and we won't.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
But it got the overall veneer of we're going to
crack down on flag burning. People hate flag burning. The
pulling on that has been very consistent for very many years.
People do not like flag burning. So Trump gets the
whole I'm against flag burning win while not actually violating
anybody's rights. There are going to be people, guaranteed Democrats,
(07:34):
burning flags to try to thumb in the eye. That
will be on TV at night. You'll see the evening
news of people burning flags. The evening newscast will think
everybody's a progressive like them and are happy about it.
But that's not real. Most of America sees flag burning
hippies and hates it. Eighty percent of America says flag
burnings ought to be met with nose flattenings, all right,
(07:56):
but we put up with it because we cherish our freedom. Yeah,
it's a complete mystery again of the professional ideologues on
left of where the American people really are. The problem
with where we're going though, of course, is all this
performative stuff like Trump pretending he's cracking down in flag
burning knowing he can't, is the same to me as
Joe Biden pretending he went around the Supreme Court to
(08:20):
wipe out student loans when he didn't, Right, But they
like our current presidents now like pretending they're sticking it
to Congress or sticking it to.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
The law or whatever to stand up for you.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
And none of this performative stuff is well gonna take
us in the right direction. It's all online heat it
really any Do you have any interest in Joe Scarborough
and Brandon Johnson? I just any opportunity to kick that
jackass union horror. Sorry, this is a strong word, folks.
I shouldn't have said horror. I should have said horror.
(08:54):
Brandon Johnson, He's a rotten human being to the core,
an awful mayor and a half wit to boat. Joe
Scarborough recent returney to sanity, it grilled him the other day.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
We all want the dignity of people in Chicago protected.
Fifty four people shot this weekend in Chicago, seven killed,
I mean, and.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Those numbers just keep piling up, Okay, and then next
one JB. Prinsker should do something radical.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
I think you should pick up the phone, call the
president and say you know, and I know, you don't
have the constitutional authority to deploy the National Guard here
and to police. You can do that in DC, you
can't do that in Chicago. But let's partner up. These
are the most dangerous parts of my state. We would
love to figure out how to have a partnership that's constitutional,
(09:54):
that respects the sort of balance of federalism between the
federal government and the state government. And let's work together
to save lives because right now, just hey, nothing to
see here, moving along, no problem here, Hey, Donald Trump,
we don't need you. And you know the mayor talking
about we're going to protect people's dignity in our city.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
We'll protect their lives. That's protecting their dignity.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
You're laying there bleeding out your belly. You're not so
worried about your dignity. But that would be if our
government kind of worked, if we would act that way.
But we don't act that way at any level anymore.
At any level, right you play to the most online
part of your constituency that's going to raise the most
money or send out the most tweets. The idea of
(10:43):
calmly addressing a problem and coming up with a solution,
you ain't gonna get any headlines with that. I don't know,
I don't know how we get out of this situation. Yeah,
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Speaker 1 (12:05):
So I don't know about you.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
I don't get personal calls from Donald Trump and Brandon Johnson.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I wouldn't take his.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Call, and the various newsmakers in America with very few exceptions.
I hear it all through with the media, and the
media has every interest in ratcheting up the angst and
the anger and the heat, the online heat we were
just talking about too. And I just at some point,
I mean it's like, you know, have you ever vacation
(12:32):
in Mexico and you step off the plane, you walk
through the term a little bit, and you got a
dozen different guys trying to sell you, you know, time
shares and boat rides and god knows whatever else.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
You just have to start looking at the media, like
you look at those guys.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Oh, why honey, here is an honest broker with an
excellent offer on a time share opportunity. No nobody thinks that.
They think, all right, here's some scumbags come to take
my money. And I think we need to realize that
that's where our media is to a large extent. I
just can't believe Trump can can be puppetmaster to big
name democrats so easily and have their voices out over
(13:11):
the next twenty four hours talking about don't send help
to Chicago with underneath the headline fifty shot seven dead.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Last year was sixty one. It's improving. That is crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
You have any thoughts on that text line four one
five five KFTC. He went to Iowa over the weekend.
I want to tell the story later because it went
to the one room schoolhouse from my dad went to
school in the middle of nowhere, Iowa, and took my
son there and it was really cool. So more on
that later. Wow, how many genders were there when he
(13:46):
was in that school? Just the two I Meanwhile, I
was in Great Britain in England, London mostly thanks to everybody, Hey,
thanks to everybody who made all sorts of great suggestions
for what we got to do. You know, we ended
up not doing like museums all the time, partly because
(14:07):
and they've got some incredible museums obviously, like every great
city in the western world does. But I thought you know,
I'd been a lifelong Anglophile, fascinating by the music, literature, politics, comedy,
just all of it, and I'd never been and I
just thought that's crazy. So this was like a week
long date with London in England to get to know
(14:30):
each other.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
And so I thought, art museum.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
There's art museums everywhere, now this has a particularly great collection,
blah blah blah. But no, let's not spend an afternoon
in art museum. Let's walk the streets and blah blah blah.
So it was great fun. Day one hopped on the
famous red double decker buses and rode around all day,
partly because we were exhausted from travel and jet lagged
(14:53):
and the rest of it. It's five hours ahead of
the East coast, eight hours ahead of the West coast,
and so day one and two especially exhausted, yet overcaffeinated.
Just a delightful feeling that just makes you want to
wrap your arms around the world and good on your stomach.
Oh god, yeah, good point. So I at one point
(15:15):
I thought I'm never leaving home again. And then you know,
by day three, we're just plugged in and just love it.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I'm never leaving home again.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, I mean I had that weird paranoid, exhausted, hunted
beast feeling going, you know, get.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Me all of them where wolves in London? Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
But anyway, so we rode around on the big red
bus for hours and hours and just to get the
lay land. And here is my encapsulation of our quite
a few hours on the bus. Kings and Queen's wars, churches, disease, pollution, crime,
(15:57):
more wars, floods and fires, another war, several more kings,
and brothels, lots of brothels.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
That's pretty much your big city tour.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
There you go, war, death, disease and brothels and architecture too.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
And then let's see another note of note.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
The one museum we did spend a lot of time
at was the British Museum, which is the actual name
of It. Wasn't exactly what I expected, but we had
a guide, which was cool. It has the most incredible
collection of antiquities, like prehistoric and like the dawn of
history stuff. Literally the oldest writing ever found on earth.
(16:45):
You can look at it with your beady eyes, the
oldest book, the oldest scroll, the oldest everything from ancient
languages that either nobody can still translate or they just
learned to translate, you know a century ago with the
Rosetta Stone and the actual Rosetta Stone right there. Yeah, Well,
it's one of the best museums in the world, partially
because Britain was the most powerful country in the world
(17:06):
for a very very long time, back in the day
where there are no rules around this sort of thing,
and so they were able to grab up stuff from
all around the world, right And the modern woke take
on that is they grabbed up stuff from around the
world and took it and they ought to give it back.
I There is some of that, absolutely, but there are many,
many stories where some of the most incredible and important
(17:28):
of their discoveries nobody gave a crap right in that country,
especially at the time it would have been destroyed or
just lost. The British were like, this is really important.
This needs to be preserved. We're going to painstakingly excavate it,
take it back to Britain, study it, try to figure
out its significance, connect it to other points in history.
(17:49):
Because they were modern in a way that a lot
of these countries weren't at all. They sold they Oh
you want to you want our greatest antiquity.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I'm the king.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Give me a thousand bucks. They sold the stuff, they
didn't give a crap. The Brits didn't steal a lot
of it. They preserved it. Power Ball is at one
point three billion dollars. Not much of a news story,
but uh, that's a lot of money. Oh, we got
other actual news stories on the way. If you missed
a second, we get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on
demand Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
Desmond Watson, the four hundred and fifty pounds heaviest player
in NFL history, has been cut by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
He will now go back to his old job as
Stacy Abram's body double.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Michael.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Wow, Michael, that is out a line even bringing that
joke to us, never mind airing it.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
That's full. It was a setup. That's why I chose it.
Four hundred and fifty pound linemen.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
That's some biggest player ever in NFL history. But couldn't
move fast enough. Maybe they couldn't afford to feed him,
that's it. Or they couldn't get him on the plane.
Oh he couldn't go to away games?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Wow? Wow, have to hire a flatbed. Right.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Oh see, that's insensitive and I regret it. Michael, you
started this, I'm sorry. So coming up a really interesting
front page story in British newspapers while I was there
about the left's desperation to give children the vote. We're
(19:24):
talking sixteen and seventeen year olds, the absolute naked strategy there,
and interestingly polls of British teenagers that might as well
have been done in the US, including the unbelievable divide
between boys and girls politically.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
So that coming up next hour. Stay with us.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Well, I'm just looking at the headline on CNN. President
she of China to host Russia Iran in North Korea
a military parade. This is like the thirties Germany stuff,
not the usual Trump is Hitler thirty two. This is
like the world's worst people getting together and talking about
starting some s. Right, Russia Iran in North Korea in
(20:06):
a military parade. Anyway, more on that later. We are
the most pessimistic economically that we have ever been, according
to those Wall Street Journal nork Pole that is out
that found that the share of people who say they
have a good chance of improving their standard of living,
so that's a question, do you feel like you've got
a good chance of improving your standard of living? It
(20:28):
fell to twenty five percent. That's a record low dating
back to nineteen eighty seven. More than that is horrified.
It is horrifying. More than three quarters said they lack
confidence that life for the next generation will be better
than their.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Own, The Pole found. Let me think about that question
for a a while. Do I think.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Do I think that life for my kids will be
better than mine? I don't know that I do, but
I wouldn't put it all around economics. Here's a question,
in a preliminary question before you ask that question, is
the American assumption that every generation will be better off
than the previous, which began, you know in the twentieth
(21:12):
century when America was, you know, just stood.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Alone as an economic superpower.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Is that expectation realistic in the twenty first century, I
would argue it's not.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
No. I think it was a blip in time and odd.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah, how could you craft any system where you can
always expect your kids to do better than you? Well,
we could bomb Europe back to the Stone Age and
do the same day age, I guess, because that's what
it took.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
The first time.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I should ask my plus head start because we're an optimistic,
freedom loving, entrepreneurial people, or at least I thought so
until this poll came out. Back to the poland just
a second minute, and I'll tell this story about visiting
Iowa and my dad's side of the family with my son.
But we're talking to my dad and we're at his
(22:04):
older sister's house, who's ninety four. She's still alive and
as with it as can be, and we all went
out eat and everything like that. But they're talking about
when they were kids and they grew up with no electricity,
no running water, going to school in a horse drawn wagon.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I mean, like it was eighteen ten.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
But I doubt they ever even thought about will my
economic situation be better than my parents? It's just what
are we going to eat today? How do I get warm?
I think I don't know where we came up with
this standard.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Well, right, and.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
As baselines go, I mean, it's pretty easy for the
next generation to do better, really right anyway, So it's
only twenty five percent of people who say they have
a good chance of improving their standard of living and
seventy five percent lack confidence that life for the next
generation would be better than our own. Nearly seventy percent
(22:56):
of people said they believe the American dream that if
you work hard, you will get ahead no longer holds
true or never did. I don't agree with that the
highest level of nearly fifteen years of surveys. I do
believe that if you work hard, you will get ahead.
I think that's clearly true. And you're using and if
you don't believe it's true, you're using it as an
excuse to not try hard.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
That's what I believe.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Will it necessarily get you as far ahead as soon
as you'd hoped?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Probably not. Well, are you rich and famous?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
No? And I know that's the standard for a lot
of people. If you're not rich and famous, then it
was a failure.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Boy.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Optimism has powered this country since the beginning, since before
it was a country, and belief in self anyway, more
of the numbers, well, so that bothers me way more
than those other numbers, though that they made the headline
in the Wall Street Journal, the fact that you can't
think you can get ahead, or your kid's going to
be better off or whatever. Okay, you can pick around that,
(23:51):
but the idea that if you work hard you'll get ahead.
Very few people believe that. That is the most troubling
statistic to me of all.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
It's defeatism. Where does that come from? I don't know.
I find this so troubling.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
What in your life experience are looking around you leads
you to believe that? You know, I can picture people
having done all the right things and then their industry
changing very suddenly, being rattled by that and having a
bad attitude about it. I did all the right things,
and I still look at me, I'm screwed. That's a
(24:34):
discouraging thing. It absolutely is. But the fact that sometimes
it doesn't work out the way you had hoped doesn't mean.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
That your premise wasn't accurate.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
In general, working hard, looking for opportunities, believing in yourself
is good.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It's not only good, it's necessary.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Does it always pan out as quickly as a rich
is blah blah blah?
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Or sometimes do you get screwed? Yeah? Certain percentage of
the time.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Well maybe it's an expectations always been Well, that's yeah,
that's what I'm driving it.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
You said it in far fewer words.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
It's all expectations then, because if you ever have the
idea that I've gotten into an industry and now I'm
set for life. That was an unrealistic expectation. Now here's
a stupid, stupid aspect of this poland that's that there's
a long standing trend that the party holding the White
House has a rosier view of the economy than.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Whoever's out of power.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Fifty five percent of Republicans had a negative view of
the prospects for themselves and their children over half of Republicans,
it was ninety percent of Democrats ninety percent. Because what
kind of message do you think they're giving to those
aforementioned children?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Right? Good lord boy?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
And that's what's that saying that I've never quite understood
whether you think you can or think you can't. You're right, yes,
uh but yeah, if you're telling your kids every day
or telling yourself every day, you can't get ahead, You
just can't.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Well let me guess how that's going to turn out.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, working hard and looking for opportunities and trying to
change the world.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
That won't do me any good anyway. So I'm not
gonna Wow, what a depressing poll that is.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Yeah, Well, one of the guys behind it, this Stanford
economics professor who is one of the good guys at Stanford.
I'm going to shame Stanford with all of my might
as soon as I can. They are just woke and
sick anyway. But this guy, Neil Mahoney says it sort
of saddens me. I think one of our superpowers as
a country is our relentless optimism. It is the fuel
(26:40):
for entrepreneurship and other exceptional achievements.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
But it's not just optimism. It's also true if you
work hard, you will get ahead.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, eventually, sure, as opposed to what, by the way,
getting ahead by not working hard or doing nothing? I
mean what i'd I don't even understand. I barely understand
the question. You know, one of the most interesting and
powerful things I've read in the last several years. I
(27:09):
can't remember who said this, I've got to look it up,
but they said success is temporary because you.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Want to go out and prove it again.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
You've got other hills to climb, more challenges to take on,
or you know, just staying on top so that challenge
never ends.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
If you quit, that's permanent.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
That's the warm, huggy blanket of I'm not even gonna
try because there's no point in it, and everybody's against me.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And that's why I have a bad life.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
That is like a drug that you take once and
it numbs you forever. Hmmm, that's why it's so attractive
to people. Does that sound ugly and judgmental?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Good.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I'm on a big Bruce Springsteen kick. But I remember
something he said about working hard and getting ahead years ago.
I'll tell you about that right after this. He is
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on this big Bruce Strip Springsteen kick for a while
his music, and I started reading his autobiography Over the
Vacation and everything like that, really interesting stuff. As an artist,
(29:24):
his view of economics and politics is insane and it's
hard to overlook to enjoy the music. But I remember
seeing a video of him way back in the day
and he said basically what this poll is saying. Unfortunately.
He said, they've been selling that lie forever, and he
was talking about working hard to get ahead. They've been
selling that lie to people like us, our whole lives.
(29:46):
And I thought, wow, what a depressing view of the
world that somebody is selling you. What advantage did they
get out of that? What advantage is the somebody getting
out of selling you the law that if you work
hard you'll get ahead, And what is your alternative method? Again,
I can barely wrap my head around the premise of this. Well,
(30:09):
I think like half wit Marxist, like Bruce, and he's
not a half wit in general. He's a very good writer,
but he just he has practically a child's view of
these things. He would say, Well, they convince you to
go down to the factory and bust your ass and
you wear out your back and then you're still poor,
and that's the lie they're selling. Well, dude, you figured
(30:29):
out what you were good at then worked like crazy
to become successful at it. I know your story. Why
is that true for you? But it's a fantasy for
everybody else because you're the special man or you just
got lucky or what.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I just I don't understand the reasoning.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yeah, you know what's weird about this pole is the
number of people who rate the economy as excellent or
good is up significantly.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
There, well, last and it sucks. It was a different
poll last week while you're gone. But there is a
certain amount of Oh, I'm fine, but it's bad for
everybody else that's going on in polling right now, which
is a strange phenomenon. I'm doing okay. I think we're
going to be okay my family, but it's really rough
out there for everybody else, which is its own weird negativity.
Right right now, housing is really really difficult now for
(31:19):
young people, it's brutally hard. So what are you going
to do? Quit because ninety percent of Democrats think there's
no point. I mean, that's that's a miserable philosophy of life.
It really is, you know, I I don't know. I'm
profoundly discouraged about humanity right now. We are not facing
(31:43):
we you, your kids, your grandkids, your great grandparents. All
of us face our own set of challenges in the
times we live.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
And sometimes it's world wars. Sometimes it's horrific pandemics.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Sometimes it's just pretty bad pandemics that the government fs
up the response so badly it makes everybody miserable. Anyway,
everybody has their own list, every single generation that's ever lived.
Just because guys could stumble out of high school in
nineteen fifty onto an assembly line and make a good
living and raise a couple of kids, then retire with
a pension for like a blip.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
That's not where our expectations need to be said. It's
just not a good way to be a human being.
Try to be good at being a human being.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
That's a good tea shirt. Try to be good at
being a human being. What was the thing you said
you got coming up? I want to something. Oh that
is excited. British lefties are trying desperately to get children
to vote.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Gee, why do you think that might be?
Speaker 3 (32:50):
We got a full hour dedicated to Travis and Taylor
getting married, so of course we'll take a look at
the ring and the proposal.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
All of it kill me. It's there, armstrong, heyety.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
Taylor swift engagement post on Instagram has made history for
having the most likes in one day. It beat the
previous record set by Rashida Taleb announcing she bought a razor.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
So I mentioned Taylor Swift's ring. I did think it
was kind of interesting. I came across she got.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Heirloom style and apparently that's the trendy new style for
jewelry is for stuff to look like it's like really
really old that your grandmother gave you. If your grandmother
happened to give you a sixty carr or whatever the.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Hell was she was married to a Rockefeller.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Ye, but the heirloom style, it's not the big blingy fancy.
It's like flat and not as shiny anyway, So that's
what they did. I got to jump into one of
the controversies of the last couple of weeks, the whole
cracker barrel thing as we went to cracker barrel. Well,
I was so I flew to Kansas and then we
(34:03):
drove up to Iowa, and then during the trip we
ate a crackerber. Cracker Barrell got talked about a lot
just because he was in the news so much, and like,
so I'm talking to people that have all been to
cracker barrel lots, like I've been to our one hundred times.
My parents have been there, and we all been there
at the time, none of us. If you did ask
us three weeks ago, who's the guy on the sign,
(34:23):
we would have all responded with there's a guy on
the sign.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Every single one of us.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
It wasn't, well, that's beloved uncle Herschel the very important.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
You know, I don't know a figure.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
That represents Cracker Barrel and I couldn't eat there if
you weren't on the sign. I mean, none of us
even knew there was a guy on the sign, which
is funny. And then who decided that it was woke
what Cracker Barrew was doing.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I don't quite get that.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
It seems to me they're just like updating their brand
a little.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
And for whatever.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Reason I do, I didn't really follow it. The amount
of controversy he got was tremendous. And then and then
you know, and then they constant backpedaling and trying to
clean it up of the CEO, which is, you know,
hilarious always when these people do that. Now, if it is,
as the rumors say, gonna go to some sort of
like it looks like a Starbucks on the inside, like
(35:20):
the booths and the modern look, I can see where
that's gonna turn off a lot of the customers who
like the old time you look. But the main thing
that I do think is great if this is true,
the little triangle game. So you take the little pigs
and you move them around and you try to end
up with one peg, which I've never been able to
do once in my life. It's an IQ test, Jack
says right at the top. My brother regularly gets down
(35:41):
to one peg. Even as a little kid, I was
never able to do better than two. I did get
two over the weekend while I was eating my chicken
fried chicken with hash browns and eggs over easy. I
got it down to two. But what it says on
the little triangle thing, I don't know. You probably don't
know this, Joe. If you get it down to one,
it says genius. If you get it down to it
says pretty smart. If you get it down to three,
(36:03):
it says I forget something. You need to try harder.
And if it's four, it says you're an ignoramus. Well, apparently,
the new triangle thing it's all positive stuff. It's like
the we all get a participation certificate for playing soccer
as an eight year old even though we couldn't play.
It's all like that. It's like one, nice job, Two,
still a nice job. Three, try better number four, You're
(36:25):
still we still love you?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
You know that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Because I thought it was too mean to call people
then remis I guess.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
We've gone so soft as a country.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
You know, I regularly failed at that little logic puzzle
as a youngster, and it didn't discourage me. I went
ahead and showed up to school as an ignoramus and
got less ignorant. No, that's not the way I did it.
The first time I got four and it said I
was an ignoramus. I put my head in my hands
and I thought, I am doomed. I'm doomed in life.
I have taken this important test. I did not pass it.
(36:56):
I quit school, and that's why I live under a
bridge doing math right now.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
I picked it up and.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
I fired it right off the waitress' forehead, and a
she bled.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I yelled, who you call?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
By the way, the first cracker barrel we stopped at
had an hour wait, so we drove down the interstate
to the next one that had a forty five minute wait.
They got more free advertising for their business in the
last couple of weeks. You couldn't buy it with billions
of dollars. Yeah, I have more to say on why
I think people were outraged, but we're out of time.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
We do several more hours.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
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