November 5, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- Jack's conversation with Grok & the "Starve The Lazy" slogan
- Grok's answers
- The NYC mayoral race & commentary
- Tom Brady's dog & bidets
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Getty, I know he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
CNN has published a profile and Zron Mamdanni's wife, so
that news lady, he's married, and even worse news Cuomo
isn't that should be considered in the fact that Mam
Donnie won who he ran against. But the fact though, yeah,
young people call themselves socialists in New York is a problem.
(00:44):
We'll talk more about that election and hear a little
more from his speech in some of the analysis a
little bit later this hour.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, indeed, I got a lot of good stuff and
not the usual blah blah blah about the election you'll
get in other places. Not the usual blah blah blah,
completely different blah blah blah, unusual blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So got into a conversation with Groc yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Again, I do on a fairly regular basis in my
if you drive a Tesla, Groc is in there.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
And you're really gravitating. Oh I see, I was just
going to say you're gravitating toward Groc. But part of
its convenience as opposed to other Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I've got I have chat GPT on my phone. I
have chat GPT, Grock, and Claude. I don't know why
I chose those three. There are others out there, and
I usually compare and contrast them to see what kind
of answers they would get. For instance, last night, just
give you to an inkling or just an insight into
my incredibly fascinating life. Last night I was doing research
(01:42):
on this guy I had never heard of until I
was taking in a Jonah Goldberg podcast the other day
and when she was talking about this guy, Henry George.
Are you familiar with Henry George? Maybe you are from
(02:04):
in a political science major. I don't know. Vaguely familiar,
kind of interesting on a day after an election.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Henry George was like the not like.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
He was the most influential political thinker of the last
half of the eighteen hundreds. He wrote a book about it,
called Progress and Poverty. It was the number two selling
book in the world behind the Bible. Georgism was a
movement all around the world. He was huge. He would
(02:33):
go to town to town and draw in tens of
thousands of people to come hear him speak about his
particular political ideas and everything like that. And for you know,
the way history works, sometimes some people just disappear from
history and you never hear his name, and nobody ever
talks about him.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
But he's like the biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I've already forgotten his first name. Henry said, yes, Henry George.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
And so anyway, getting maybe I'll talk about that more later,
but getting back to AI, I asked chat, GBT, Claude
and grok Uh, you know, tell me a little bit
about Henry George and how popular he was, and they
all had a little bit different information. They were all good,
found it interesting, different topic. So we're writing in the
(03:13):
truck yesterday. God, what was the topic. It doesn't even
really matter what the topic was that I brought up
to groc and asked it a question, and so she
started to answer, and immediately Henry jumped in. He said,
that's not right, that doesn't make any sense. I said,
you interrupted her, and he said that it's not her,
(03:34):
it's a computer. And I said, and I said, you
keep interrupting her, and I want to hear what her
answer is. And he kept saying, she's not her anyway,
I said to Groc, I said, I said, I'm sorry
he interrupted, and she said, that's okay, it happens anyway,
and then she finishes her answer so freaking weird, and
Henry and I both looked at each other wide. I'd like, ah,
(03:57):
something just happened that is strange and frightening and needs
to be recognized.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I can't open the hatch, Dave, or whatever the hell
the computer says.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
In two thousand and one of Space.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
My son and I getting into an argument about him
interrupting her in quotes, and she laughs, is, yeah, don't worry,
it happens anyway. As I was saying, what what now?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
See, Yeah, it's funny. Humanity's probably divided into roughly, I
don't know, a thirds or whatever, A third don't care,
a third thing that's great, it's charming, and third of
us like are like, this is a con This is
attempting to get in my good graces for a reason.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
What is that reason?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
To take over the world and drain our vital fluids
and take our organs.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And the fact that she, like probably you know, had
a sense of what was going on there that it
was something that a laugh was a perfectly normal human
response up to a father and a teenage son arguing
about something. Yeah, that was silly. It was a silly topic.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah. Is just this freaking disturbing? Yeah? Odd times.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, so speaking of that sort of thing, this is
interesting on several different levels. Got this note from Craig,
the healthcare guru who we correspond with semi frequently in
real life, and he says, Guys, I'm using GPT in
the robot mode. We talked about this yesterday. You can
assign it different personalities. So sometimes it's like the super
(05:37):
cheer leady friend in a way that is off putting
in weird, and or it can be like robot mode,
just very straightforward.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And he was using.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Robot mode anyway, maybe that's what I should do, so
it's not so strange. Mine is like it was pre
set to kind of very conversational and like human like,
and it's disturbing. I don't know if ROC has those
options it has on the screen.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, huh yeah, yeah, I mean obviously you can do man,
woman whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Ask it what its pronouns are anyway, So Craig writes,
I just told it that my favorite radio show.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Craig began a new slogan starve the uh oh wait
a minute, wait a minute minute, Oh okay, that's just
a misprint. A new slogan starve the lazy. And I
asked it what it thought about that response. Short answer,
it's a blunt, polarizing frame. High signal debase, high collateral risk.
Here are some more key points. It defines a moral divide.
(06:36):
Lazy is undefined. That vagueness invites false positives. It shifts
debate from policy design to character judgment. That narrows your coalition.
That's clever. It underestimates screening costs distinguishing eyebel but eight
I'm sorry, able but idle from unable is administratively hard
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and error prone, and it creates headline risk, easy to
caricature as anti poor rather than anti work. Now, as
a political consultancy goes, that is pretty good, I think unintentionally,
and it took a second for this to click in
(07:17):
my head.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
But it also highlights how.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
The default or the assumptions have been the opposite that
we have gone so far toward. If you say you
need these benefits, we can't call you lazy. We need
to assume the opposite of what this computer says, we're
suggesting that distinguishing able but idle from unable is administratively
(07:45):
hard and error prone. Therefore we won't do it. We'll
just give the handouts to everybody who can fog a
mirror and fills out the form, which is enormously expensive
and undermines some of the most vital moral foundations that
human and kinds have, including you will take care of
yourself in yours unless you are seriously unable.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I would agree with that, but clearly the culture has
been for many many years.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
What the groc there just.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Repeated, so it is picked up on what our zeitgeist
is that we don't ask questions about you know, your
lifestyle or your effort.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
We just assume that if you say you need up food,
you need food.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
So we'll take money from this other person that went
to work and give it to you because we're just
going to assume that you have made good choices in
your life and are trying your best right right, So
it creates headline risk. O.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
There, we did that.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
If the goal is work incentives, here's some better framing.
Reward work, protect the vulnerable. Reward work, but protect the vulnerable.
It's not bad I still like starve the lazy better. Oh,
please help first require progress That one sucks. Policy levers
(09:04):
that match that pair work requirements with supports childcare, transport, stipends,
job placement, short training.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
It's in favor of work requirements, use earning subsidies over
cliffs ei TC style wage boost Gradual phase outs that
is actually really really good if you're not familiar with
the idea of the welfare cliff. If you get a
certain amount in welfare, and if you dare try to
improve your life by getting a job that earns, say
(09:34):
three quarters of your welfare payments, society cuts off your
welfare payments.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
And you'll have a net loss.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
You've just diminished your life by doing the right thing. Yeah,
I appreciate that gradual phase outs is a great idea.
Titan fraud controls where measurable identity, income and residency verifications,
periodic redeterminations, have time limits with hardship exemptions and clear
appeal paths. Sanctions that a graduated and reversible upon compliance.
(10:02):
Here's how to test it before adopting pilot in one program,
pre specify metrics.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I mean it's like if you were paying for a
policy paper on this sort of thing, it would it
would cost you a lot of money and take a
lot of time.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And I'm guessing it spit it out and roughly three seconds.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, yeah. Bottom line, the sentiment don't subsidize idleness is common.
The slogan invites unavoidable blowpack. Yeah, I don't care. Blow
back as hard.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
As you want.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Use language the target's behavior and preserves dignity, while tightening incentives.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
You know, getting away from a gros take on it.
I have long said this, as you've listened for a
long time. I apologize for repeating myself. But the fact
that there's no mechanism for your life choices to take
a look at that drives me nuts, and it would
be administratively hard. But Okay, you're out of money now,
(10:57):
and you're legitimately out of money. Tell me about your
last vacation, show me your phone. Can we walk out
and check out your car?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Can I look in your closet and see your clothes?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
See the fact that that is taboo in American politics
now and practically in the culture.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I mean, I don't hear people saying that effort.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
No nobody ever says that, well, it's.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Something we talk a lot about the symptoms, but there's
the disease right there. And one more note, So Craig,
just for fun, said one more question. On the show,
they often say KFTC, what does that mean? And an
answered immediately keep blanking that chicken.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
It's non.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
To TV anchor Ernie Anesto's on air Blooper, Angie adopted
it for their text line and merch how.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
In the world did it know that? Instantly? Wow? And
then this.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Uh as he asked essentially about ang Armstrong and Getty.
Those guys don't pull lunches? Do they starve the lazy?
As a slogan that's equal parts motivational, boot camp and
bar fight starter. On one hand, I get the vibe.
It's a raw called the hustle. Ditch the excuses and
own your grind. In a world full of participation trophies
(12:13):
and endless scrolling, little tough love can light a fire
under folks you need it.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Props to them for merching it too.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Nothing says commitment like a hoodie that roasts your inner sloth.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
That's it, come up double, that's a humor.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Wow, that's some pretty good smack. I want to curl
up in the fetal position. There's more to this.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
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Speaker 2 (13:32):
It's good to be right.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
The argument with my son and then Grock laughing about it,
and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I suggest you interact with these things because they're they're
here to stay and they're gonna be a big part
of everybody's lives. But I'd be interested in how you
react to that. If you get like I got like
a chill to my bone over that some weird something
happened there. But if your dog started talking, it's like.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Right, the Uncanny Valley, something that's almost human troubling.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
We've got a lot more on the waistare.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Just to finish up our conversation work, I guess our
friend Craig had a conversation with Grock about the Armstrong
and Getty showing.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It was interesting to see what AI thinks about all this.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, so I'm talking about the star of the lazy slogan.
And if you didn't hear the first part of the
analysis in last segment, grab the podcast Armstrong and Getty
on demand. It's actually quite subtle and nuanced and interesting.
On the one hand, I get the vibe. It's raw,
called a hustle, ditch your own excuses and own your
own grind. It's hipster terminology is disturbing to me. The
(14:43):
fact that it's language so up to date. Anyway, in
a world full of participant patient trophies and endless scrolling,
a little tough love can light a fire under folks
who need it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
That said, it's got that edge that might overlook the
gray areas mental health struggles, economic traps are just playing
bad luck.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
It isn't laziness at all. True. That's absolutely true.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But here's what I object to, mister Rock, and that
is that the entire discussion in our society has been
pegged at the opposite end of the spectrum for a
very long time. That you can't for a second assign
any responsibility to the individual who has got their hand
out wanting taxpayer money. Yeah, and so the subtleties that
(15:26):
suggest are absolutely true. But why is it that the
left gets to traffic only in slogans, only in greeting
card rhetoric, and then the right has to respond as
adults with with you know, fleshed out policies that include
the gray areas.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
It's a tough situation to be and it doesn't seem
to work very well with a lot of crowds, just
because you don't get credit for saying, of course, there
are people who are mentally ill, who can't feed themselves,
or you know, they get a bad break that would
have brought any of us down, or whatever course that exists.
And we are a big enough, rich enough country to
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help those people out. But are you gonna pretend that
you haven't known people in your life that make bad
decision after bad decision, or take nicer vacations than you,
or buy a new car every couple of years, and
you don't, And then they get to plead I need.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Help at some point like that.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
I've known lots of people like that, including myself when
I was younger. I mean, I never looked for government help,
but I made bad financial decisions that were completely my
fault and.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
In the gro thing, which instantaneously answered some fairly obscure
trivia questions about the show through whatever vood who it uses.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
It.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
It didn't take a note the five thousand times I
have said, people who are truly needy mentally physically handicapped,
they can't get out and earn. It is my delight
that my taxpayer, of my tax money, helps those poor,
unfortunate souls. How many times have I said that, what
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now you get no credit from? But see this fits
in with the politics of today. After the elections of yesterday,
Marjorie Taylor Green was on the view We're going to
play clips of that later. She's carving out kind of
this new Republican. I was going to say conservative, but
that's all right, this new Republican we need to help
the downtrodden crowd. Trump is out today saying the shutdown
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is what cost Republicans elections last night. He's clearly leaning
toward extend the Obama subsidies. So there's there's way more movement.
Democrats have always been this way, and now on the
Republican side toward assume everybody needs it. Everybody's doing their
best they're getting screwed by the system or life and
they need a more wealth less redistribution, and or it's
(17:48):
just too difficult to explain why I'm not going to
give you something that you really really want. Giving you
what you really really want is way easier, especially when
we're not constrained by the amount of tax money we
take in.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
We can spend whatever we want. Joe Getty quoting the
Spice Girls in a political sense.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Interesting. We'll hear a little very eclectic.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
We'll hear a little from the communist mayor's speech and
other stuff on the way.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Some of that analysis is good Armstrong and Getty. So,
Donald Trump, since I know you're watching, I have four
words for you. Turn the volume up.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
As I've said before, the only times I've heard roarers
like that Obama, Bernie Trump. I mean, that's an enthusiastic
crime and college basketball and football. I mean, that's an
enthusiast that's not just the yay, we're on your side mostly,
but it could be somebody else and we'd be just
as excited. We just need somebody. No, this is that's
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that's the that's the sound of a movement, right, which
is a people who mentioned were What's interesting in that
this was we predicted this. This was not a hard
prediction that when he won he was really gonna unleash.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
And why wouldn't you?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You won by what he won, by twenty five points
or whatever, that's a pretty solid indication that your style
is hot.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Here's Van Jones on CNN with his analysis. Van Jones,
who's a Democratic operative analyst on CNN with his take
on last night.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
That's speech appeal to some, but I think he missed
an opportunity. I think the mom Donnie that we saw
in the campaign trail, who was a lot more calm,
who was a lot warmer, who was a lot more embracing,
was not present in that speech. And I think that
Mom Donnie is the one you need to hear from tonight.
(19:49):
There are a lot of people trying to figure out
can I get on this train with him or not?
Is he going to include me?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Is he going is he going.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
To be more of a class warrior even in office.
I think he missed a chance tonight to open up
and bring more people into the tent.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I think its tone was sharp.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
I think he was using the microphone in a way
that he was almost yelling. And that's not the mom
dining that we've seen on TikTok and the great interviews and.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
So I felt like there was a little bit of
a character switch here where the warm, open embracing guy
that's close to working people was not on stage night,
and there was some other voice on stage.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
That's it. He's very young.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Okay, that's good, that's you know what's funny about that?
Van Jones is a super smart guy and his mate
is living in politics. Is that you think that that
was like a mistake or missed opportunity or the real
guy was the guy who ran the guy last night?
Given the speech is some sort of phony put on?
(20:51):
What on today's Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
And Getty showed Joe Getty really missed an opportunity to
come off as a liberal. No, he had no intention
on coming off as a liberal. That would be a lie.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Mom.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Donnie was being honest. Van poor Van who I can't
I like him. I disagree with him on you know,
three quarters of stuff, but I think he's a decent
enough guy. What we heard there was a man who
was desperately hoping that the Islamist Marxist was not an
Islamic Marxist.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
He was desperately hoping that he would show his true colors,
which are a moderate man of the left who is
just rallying the kids with some rhetoric. No, Van, No,
I'm sorry to disappoint you. He's precisely what he said.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
He is, which is basically Scott Jennings take So he's
the one conservative they have on the panel of nine
to get punched every night.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Retorted right, And I love this about Scott Jennings.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
He is not your old school conservative like on Meet
the Press or really up until fairly recently on CNN
or anywhere else, who's like kind of I'm sorry, I'm conservative,
and I just really want to get along with you
lefty people. So I'm gonna sort of hint at what
I think, but I'm I'm sorry for taking your time.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
No, Scott Jennings is proud of his conservatism. I love
that about So.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
They were having a back and forth, he and Van
Jones over what mom Donnie's speech meant last night, and
here's Jennings, Oh.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Are you saying he didn't He wasn't the unifying voice
of a generation that you predicted mere moments ago acts,
Where was the man that you predicted would.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Not slice and dice dealer. Look, guys.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
He started his speech by quoting Eugene Debs, who ran
for President of the United States five times as the
Socialist Party of America candidate.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
He went after everybody that he thinks is a problem.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
People who own things, people who have businesses. He said
an interesting quote, no problem too large for government to.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Solve or too small in part.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
And so when you think of the world that way,
that every problem, no matter how small or how large,
is something for government to do.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Let me just decipher this for you.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Tax increases as far as the eye can see, which
means the people who need to provide jobs to the
young people that you say need jobs are going to
flee as quickly as they possibly can. I think this
was a divisive speech. And he clearly sees the world
in terms of the people who are oppressing you and
the oppressed, and he said the oppressed are.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Now in city Hall.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, I am glad.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Jennings highlighted that bit about there's no problem too large
or too small for government to fix.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
That is a.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Horrific statement among as many it's tough to pick a favorite.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
But that's sick.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Well, big chunk of the country believes that something ain't right,
it's a government's job to fix it, not me, my family,
a private sector.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
In any way, my town, my county, my state.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Although granted he's representing a city, but essentially government should
solve every problem.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Which if you can sell people on that.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Then if you have a lust for socialism or Marxism
in which the government controls everything, that is a great,
great thing to sell people on.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
In fact, it's completely necessary.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
You've got to destroy the nation of the notion of
limited government and of liberty or you're not going to
get over.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
My concern is.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
When I see the pushback against socialist communists, it's always
kind of a laughing oh please, as opposed to making
the argument right, the old police.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Is getten lazy. Yeah, they're black on making the argument.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, the old please isn't working with the young crowd
who hasn't heard the argument on why socialism doesn't work.
And they're here in my rent's going to be a
I get to ride the bus for free, I get
to eat for free, I get to go to school
for free, and they aren't here any pushed back on
there's no such thing as free Where do you think
the money comes from?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Just kind of an older crowd laughing, Oh that's ridiculous,
young person.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Well, I ain't gonna work. You gotta make the argument.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, So big black SUVs are now lined up across
the George Washington Bridge into New Jersey and head for
a Connecticut or wherever. We'll have to see. Well, there's there.
I need to admit there are limits to what he
can actually accomplish in terms of moving toward his socialist
(25:38):
goals because the limits of the state government and they
have to approve certain stuff, and there's a fifty one
person city council, etcetera.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
There.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
But he'll be able to get pretty far in that direction.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
And to what extent the job creators for flee and
the rich people who are the most mobile people in
the world will go to Florida or wherever remains to
be seen. I will predict two with virtual certainty. Number One,
you will see a continuing rise in crime in New
York City as the support for the police. Waynes here's
(26:09):
a guy who has pitched defund the police in similar
notions that the police are an anti queer force for
racism or whatever the hell he said for his entire
very very short career. And the other thing is, and
you remember, in the closing days of his campaign, he
went hardcore at so called Islamophobia, really trying to whip
(26:33):
up the Muslim vote in New York City. I just
read yesterday there has been a huge increase in so
called hate crimes in New York City. Eighty eight percent
of the religion oriented hate crimes in New York City
eighty eight percent or against Jews. So if every single
(26:57):
one of the other ones was against muslim which is
not the case, it would be nine to one ish.
So nine to one anti Semitism at the very very
very very very least is a bigger problem than so
called Islamophobia. And I could redo my screed. Why does
(27:21):
one sound like a political philosophy anti Semitism, and the
other one sounds like a disease Islamophobia? Like it's an
irrational fear, there's something wrong with you. So being against
the Jews is rational, Being against Muslims is irrational. Do
you see how the left manipulates language? Anyway, I am
predicting something like blasphemy laws in New York City. Mamdanni
(27:43):
will claim that rampant anti Islam feeling justifies punishing London style,
great Britain style. Don't get me starting like a jabber
all day about this passing laws against inciting hate or discomfort.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
He might be again pushing for that tomorrow. Interesting.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
So then on the economic side, him being a socialist,
the fact that he came out there and you know,
some people like Van Jones, thinking he was going to
moderate after running as a socialist, he doubled down on it.
His opening line quoting Eugene Debs, the most successful socialist
presidential candidate in US history. Jene Debs actually got six
percent of the vote in nineteen twelve as a presidential candidate,
(28:26):
and he got quoted last night by young mom. Dammy,
that's something nice.
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Speaker 3 (29:42):
So pretty important oral arguments going on in front of
the Supreme Court today as they're arguing about whether or
not President Trump has the power to do all this
tariff stuff he's been doing since he took office. He
might not, Probably shouldn't. One guy shouldn't be able to
do this. Just seems crazy that any one guy ever
be able to do that. But to agree, we have
(30:04):
some of the audio I think of that and some
early indications of where the conservatives are on this topic,
so we can bring you that among other things on
the way.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Stay here.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
There are many important issues today to discuss. I think
toward the top of the list is this Tom Brady's
cloned dog.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
Here you go, the revelation from Tom Brady about his
family pet. The former NFL star says his new dog, Juni,
is a clone of his previous dog, Lua, who died
in twenty twenty three. Brady says he worked with a
biotech company he has invested in to clone his beloved
pit bull mix using a blood sample collected while Lua
(30:46):
was alive.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
First of all, here.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
It's a publicity stunt for this company he's invested in place.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Your beloved family dog was a pit bull mix. You're
freaking Tom Brady, what are you doing getting pit bull
mixes for the family dog?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
An?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
That was the last straw I Giselle dumped him. Could
be any who, Katie, you love your dog, Joe loves
his dog. Michael's got cat? Yeah? Hey, hey what that
was speciesist?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Michael.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I'm standing up for you. I'm not going to have this,
this casual derision of your lifestyle choices.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Not allowed to say Michael has cats. It was the
way you said it. I didn't notice it. Michael less cats.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
How do you feel about the need to clone our
dog because we like the current one so much?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Now, no evener than idiotic.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
I thought you might be a yes on that, Katie,
now because it's not the same dog. Ah, you are
well read enough on this topic to realize, yes, it
is not the same dog. It will not behave the
same It's well, it's not the same dog, period. You
don't even really need anything after that. It's not the
same dog, but it's.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
A particular source of self indulgent more money than sense madness.
And that's the one chink in the armor of my
hero Javier and Milai.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Didn't he clone his dog five, he's got the city,
he had a favorite dog, and he's got five of
exactly the same and no kids. So that is a
weird thing about it. But anyway, I don't want to
get a hung up on that any port in a storm.
So yeah, and Tom Brady's invested in this corporation that
will do it. And from what I understand, I have
no idea how true this is, particularly among the wealthy.
(32:30):
Cloning their beloved Fufu who passed away is a thing
because you're stupid and think it's going to be the
same dog.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
It's a weird sort.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Of conceit to think that Fufu was just so special.
She was the most special dog ever. I mean, I've
got to say that. Because I'm a rich person, I
can't say, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
The dogs are great. The dog's a dog. The next
one will be as good as this one. From them,
No no, no, no, no no, yeah, go say have
another dog hit the shelter. That's a good mix. There's
plenty of them, no kidding, yeah, no kiddingy.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Do you serve a three hundred and fifty dollars bottle
of wine when there are plenty of seventy five dollars
bottles that everybody's good. It's the same answer to a
different question to show showing how rich you.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Are, gotcha.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Uh yeah, no kidding, Particularly in Tom Brady's case, you
need to put bull mix.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Go to your local shelter.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Maybe not where he lives, but drive a little further
outside of town from where you live and go to
a shelter.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
There are lots of pit bull mixes, oh plenty to
choose from.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, but that's part of the way I stay down
on earth is though I am fabulously wealthy, I generally
drink a prison toilet pruno I've got well, I've got
it my own, you know pruno toilet that I use.
We don't use it for anything but action of my
prison style wine.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
It's not multi It keeps me connected to you common people.
You know. That reminds me. You're a I'm choking.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
You're a fan of speaking of being fancy, you're a
fan of the bidet. Oh yes, I am, and uh
I the house I moved into it has a bidet
in my bathroom, and I have an actual bidet. You're
like the seat of the day seat on top of
your toilet. That one Okay, of a day is a
separate thing, right, yeah? Yeah, formally speaking, I stayed in
(34:17):
a European hotel and it had the separate thing, and
I never used it, and you gotta hop on over
to use it. It's ridiculous. But I got the bidet
thing that this is. Isn't that what most people get
for a Yeah? What's exactly the attachment? The attachment? Okay,
but I've never used it, and I just have never
(34:37):
even thought about figuring. There's no instruction manual, and I
don't want you know, uh, water up my you hoo
if I if I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Stream electric lyching, but I'm not gonna use your money
if the electricity burns me, your blinds me?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Come on line? Here is that Jack's got a you? Who?
That was new?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
I like joke comparing middays to electricity. Yeah, in terms
of a look.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
At you, what do you think it's gonna blast you
junk off or something. I'm gonna try you a coward.
I'm afraid I'll like it. You won't be able to
get me out of there. Yeah, So I don't know,
I really I just don't know how to use it.
And I don't know who I would ask? Can you
come into my toilet and show me how to use this?
(35:25):
Ask you ask Groc right, and have that record preserved forever.
But what what's your hesitance here to like ask the
internet or what brand is it? There's a number of
knobs and buttons, and I just don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You take a picture of it, send it to GROC
and say how do I use this thing? And I'm
flipping sixty years old. I've lived my whole life without one,
and it's been fine. Although you say it's a.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Damn pin of shilling, I'm not user. Not to hear
my section it's new fanvored. I've lived sixty years old,
as ab Shasta are telling about it.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I not use no new fangle drugs.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Game now comparing penicillin to a bidang, which is apt comparison,
of course, A right?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Where were we?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Well?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
So important stuff to discuss? Is it just I've power
washed many things in my life. I used to when
I worked at the feed lot, I was regularly power
washing things. Is not basically what you're doing. You're power
washing your undercarriage right with the uh the water pressure
appropriately dialed back. You're not taking the paint off the
quarter panel and an old Chrysler.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
You're you're indeed just cleansing your your nether regions. Yes,
and again, what if I like it so much you
can't get me out of there?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Dad? We're hungry. I don't care. I am staying here.
As long as we got water pressure, I'm staying in here. Okay.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Supreme Court oral arguments going on. We got a little
clip of that and some of the analysis on the
whole tariff thing, among other things.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
In hour three.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
If you missed a secondent, get the podcast Armstrong and
Getting on demand
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Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Getty, I know he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
CNN has published a profile and Zron Mamdanni's wife, so
that news lady, he's married, and even worse news Cuomo
isn't that should be considered in the fact that Mam
Donnie won who he ran against. But the fact though, yeah,
young people call themselves socialists in New York is a problem.
(00:44):
We'll talk more about that election and hear a little
more from his speech in some of the analysis a
little bit later this hour.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, indeed, I got a lot of good stuff and
not the usual blah blah blah about the election you'll
get in other places. Not the usual blah blah blah,
completely different blah blah blah, unusual blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So got into a conversation with Groc yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Again, I do on a fairly regular basis in my
if you drive a Tesla, Groc is in there.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
And you're really gravitating. Oh I see, I was just
going to say you're gravitating toward Groc. But part of
its convenience as opposed to other Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I've got I have chat GPT on my phone. I
have chat GPT, Grock, and Claude. I don't know why
I chose those three. There are others out there, and
I usually compare and contrast them to see what kind
of answers they would get. For instance, last night, just
give you to an inkling or just an insight into
my incredibly fascinating life. Last night I was doing research
(01:42):
on this guy I had never heard of until I
was taking in a Jonah Goldberg podcast the other day
and when she was talking about this guy, Henry George.
Are you familiar with Henry George? Maybe you are from
(02:04):
in a political science major. I don't know. Vaguely familiar,
kind of interesting on a day after an election.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Henry George was like the not like.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
He was the most influential political thinker of the last
half of the eighteen hundreds. He wrote a book about it,
called Progress and Poverty. It was the number two selling
book in the world behind the Bible. Georgism was a
movement all around the world. He was huge. He would
(02:33):
go to town to town and draw in tens of
thousands of people to come hear him speak about his
particular political ideas and everything like that. And for you know,
the way history works, sometimes some people just disappear from
history and you never hear his name, and nobody ever
talks about him.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
But he's like the biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I've already forgotten his first name. Henry said, yes, Henry George.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
And so anyway, getting maybe I'll talk about that more later,
but getting back to AI, I asked chat, GBT, Claude
and grok Uh, you know, tell me a little bit
about Henry George and how popular he was, and they
all had a little bit different information. They were all good,
found it interesting, different topic. So we're writing in the
(03:13):
truck yesterday. God, what was the topic. It doesn't even
really matter what the topic was that I brought up
to groc and asked it a question, and so she
started to answer, and immediately Henry jumped in. He said,
that's not right, that doesn't make any sense. I said,
you interrupted her, and he said that it's not her,
(03:34):
it's a computer. And I said, and I said, you
keep interrupting her, and I want to hear what her
answer is. And he kept saying, she's not her anyway,
I said to Groc, I said, I said, I'm sorry
he interrupted, and she said, that's okay, it happens anyway,
and then she finishes her answer so freaking weird, and
Henry and I both looked at each other wide. I'd like, ah,
(03:57):
something just happened that is strange and frightening and needs
to be recognized.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I can't open the hatch, Dave, or whatever the hell
the computer says.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
In two thousand and one of Space.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
My son and I getting into an argument about him
interrupting her in quotes, and she laughs, is, yeah, don't worry,
it happens anyway. As I was saying, what what now?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
See, Yeah, it's funny. Humanity's probably divided into roughly, I
don't know, a thirds or whatever, A third don't care,
a third thing that's great, it's charming, and third of
us like are like, this is a con This is
attempting to get in my good graces for a reason.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
What is that reason?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
To take over the world and drain our vital fluids
and take our organs.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And the fact that she, like probably you know, had
a sense of what was going on there that it
was something that a laugh was a perfectly normal human
response up to a father and a teenage son arguing
about something. Yeah, that was silly. It was a silly topic.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah. Is just this freaking disturbing? Yeah? Odd times.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, so speaking of that sort of thing, this is
interesting on several different levels. Got this note from Craig,
the healthcare guru who we correspond with semi frequently in
real life, and he says, Guys, I'm using GPT in
the robot mode. We talked about this yesterday. You can
assign it different personalities. So sometimes it's like the super
(05:37):
cheer leady friend in a way that is off putting
in weird, and or it can be like robot mode,
just very straightforward.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And he was using.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Robot mode anyway, maybe that's what I should do, so
it's not so strange. Mine is like it was pre
set to kind of very conversational and like human like,
and it's disturbing. I don't know if ROC has those
options it has on the screen.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, huh yeah, yeah, I mean obviously you can do man,
woman whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Ask it what its pronouns are anyway, So Craig writes,
I just told it that my favorite radio show.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Craig began a new slogan starve the uh oh wait
a minute, wait a minute minute, Oh okay, that's just
a misprint. A new slogan starve the lazy. And I
asked it what it thought about that response. Short answer,
it's a blunt, polarizing frame. High signal debase, high collateral risk.
Here are some more key points. It defines a moral divide.
(06:36):
Lazy is undefined. That vagueness invites false positives. It shifts
debate from policy design to character judgment. That narrows your coalition.
That's clever. It underestimates screening costs distinguishing eyebel but eight
I'm sorry, able but idle from unable is administratively hard
(06:56):
and error prone, and it creates headline risk, easy to
caricature as anti poor rather than anti work. Now, as
a political consultancy goes, that is pretty good, I think unintentionally,
and it took a second for this to click in
(07:17):
my head.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
But it also highlights how.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
The default or the assumptions have been the opposite that
we have gone so far toward. If you say you
need these benefits, we can't call you lazy. We need
to assume the opposite of what this computer says, we're
suggesting that distinguishing able but idle from unable is administratively
(07:45):
hard and error prone. Therefore we won't do it. We'll
just give the handouts to everybody who can fog a
mirror and fills out the form, which is enormously expensive
and undermines some of the most vital moral foundations that
human and kinds have, including you will take care of
yourself in yours unless you are seriously unable.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I would agree with that, but clearly the culture has
been for many many years.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
What the groc there just.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Repeated, so it is picked up on what our zeitgeist
is that we don't ask questions about you know, your
lifestyle or your effort.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
We just assume that if you say you need up food,
you need food.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
So we'll take money from this other person that went
to work and give it to you because we're just
going to assume that you have made good choices in
your life and are trying your best right right, So
it creates headline risk. O.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
There, we did that.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
If the goal is work incentives, here's some better framing.
Reward work, protect the vulnerable. Reward work, but protect the vulnerable.
It's not bad I still like starve the lazy better. Oh,
please help first require progress That one sucks. Policy levers
(09:04):
that match that pair work requirements with supports childcare, transport, stipends,
job placement, short training.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
It's in favor of work requirements, use earning subsidies over
cliffs ei TC style wage boost Gradual phase outs that
is actually really really good if you're not familiar with
the idea of the welfare cliff. If you get a
certain amount in welfare, and if you dare try to
improve your life by getting a job that earns, say
(09:34):
three quarters of your welfare payments, society cuts off your
welfare payments.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
And you'll have a net loss.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
You've just diminished your life by doing the right thing. Yeah,
I appreciate that gradual phase outs is a great idea.
Titan fraud controls where measurable identity, income and residency verifications,
periodic redeterminations, have time limits with hardship exemptions and clear
appeal paths. Sanctions that a graduated and reversible upon compliance.
(10:02):
Here's how to test it before adopting pilot in one program,
pre specify metrics.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I mean it's like if you were paying for a
policy paper on this sort of thing, it would it
would cost you a lot of money and take a
lot of time.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And I'm guessing it spit it out and roughly three seconds.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, yeah. Bottom line, the sentiment don't subsidize idleness is common.
The slogan invites unavoidable blowpack. Yeah, I don't care. Blow
back as hard.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
As you want.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Use language the target's behavior and preserves dignity, while tightening incentives.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
You know, getting away from a gros take on it.
I have long said this, as you've listened for a
long time. I apologize for repeating myself. But the fact
that there's no mechanism for your life choices to take
a look at that drives me nuts, and it would
be administratively hard. But Okay, you're out of money now,
(10:57):
and you're legitimately out of money. Tell me about your
last vacation, show me your phone. Can we walk out
and check out your car?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Can I look in your closet and see your clothes?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
See the fact that that is taboo in American politics
now and practically in the culture.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I mean, I don't hear people saying that effort.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
No nobody ever says that, well, it's.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Something we talk a lot about the symptoms, but there's
the disease right there. And one more note, So Craig,
just for fun, said one more question. On the show,
they often say KFTC, what does that mean? And an
answered immediately keep blanking that chicken.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
It's non.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
To TV anchor Ernie Anesto's on air Blooper, Angie adopted
it for their text line and merch how.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
In the world did it know that? Instantly? Wow? And
then this.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Uh as he asked essentially about ang Armstrong and Getty.
Those guys don't pull lunches? Do they starve the lazy?
As a slogan that's equal parts motivational, boot camp and
bar fight starter. On one hand, I get the vibe.
It's a raw called the hustle. Ditch the excuses and
own your grind. In a world full of participation trophies
(12:13):
and endless scrolling, little tough love can light a fire
under folks you need it.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Props to them for merching it too.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Nothing says commitment like a hoodie that roasts your inner sloth.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
That's it, come up double, that's a humor.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Wow, that's some pretty good smack. I want to curl
up in the fetal position. There's more to this.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
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Speaker 3 (13:36):
The argument with my son and then Grock laughing about it,
and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I suggest you interact with these things because they're they're
here to stay and they're gonna be a big part
of everybody's lives. But I'd be interested in how you
react to that. If you get like I got like
a chill to my bone over that some weird something
happened there. But if your dog started talking, it's like.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Right, the Uncanny Valley, something that's almost human troubling.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
We've got a lot more on the waistare.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Just to finish up our conversation work, I guess our
friend Craig had a conversation with Grock about the Armstrong
and Getty showing.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It was interesting to see what AI thinks about all this.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, so I'm talking about the star of the lazy slogan.
And if you didn't hear the first part of the
analysis in last segment, grab the podcast Armstrong and Getty
on demand. It's actually quite subtle and nuanced and interesting.
On the one hand, I get the vibe. It's raw,
called a hustle, ditch your own excuses and own your
own grind. It's hipster terminology is disturbing to me. The
(14:43):
fact that it's language so up to date. Anyway, in
a world full of participant patient trophies and endless scrolling,
a little tough love can light a fire under folks
who need it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
That said, it's got that edge that might overlook the
gray areas mental health struggles, economic traps are just playing
bad luck.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
It isn't laziness at all. True. That's absolutely true.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But here's what I object to, mister Rock, and that
is that the entire discussion in our society has been
pegged at the opposite end of the spectrum for a
very long time. That you can't for a second assign
any responsibility to the individual who has got their hand
out wanting taxpayer money. Yeah, and so the subtleties that
(15:26):
suggest are absolutely true. But why is it that the
left gets to traffic only in slogans, only in greeting
card rhetoric, and then the right has to respond as
adults with with you know, fleshed out policies that include
the gray areas.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
It's a tough situation to be and it doesn't seem
to work very well with a lot of crowds, just
because you don't get credit for saying, of course, there
are people who are mentally ill, who can't feed themselves,
or you know, they get a bad break that would
have brought any of us down, or whatever course that exists.
And we are a big enough, rich enough country to
(16:03):
help those people out. But are you gonna pretend that
you haven't known people in your life that make bad
decision after bad decision, or take nicer vacations than you,
or buy a new car every couple of years, and
you don't, And then they get to plead I need.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Help at some point like that.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
I've known lots of people like that, including myself when
I was younger. I mean, I never looked for government help,
but I made bad financial decisions that were completely my
fault and.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
In the gro thing, which instantaneously answered some fairly obscure
trivia questions about the show through whatever vood who it uses.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
It.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
It didn't take a note the five thousand times I
have said, people who are truly needy mentally physically handicapped,
they can't get out and earn. It is my delight
that my taxpayer, of my tax money, helps those poor,
unfortunate souls. How many times have I said that, what
(17:05):
now you get no credit from? But see this fits
in with the politics of today. After the elections of yesterday,
Marjorie Taylor Green was on the view We're going to
play clips of that later. She's carving out kind of
this new Republican. I was going to say conservative, but
that's all right, this new Republican we need to help
the downtrodden crowd. Trump is out today saying the shutdown
(17:26):
is what cost Republicans elections last night. He's clearly leaning
toward extend the Obama subsidies. So there's there's way more movement.
Democrats have always been this way, and now on the
Republican side toward assume everybody needs it. Everybody's doing their
best they're getting screwed by the system or life and
they need a more wealth less redistribution, and or it's
(17:48):
just too difficult to explain why I'm not going to
give you something that you really really want. Giving you
what you really really want is way easier, especially when
we're not constrained by the amount of tax money we
take in.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
We can spend whatever we want. Joe Getty quoting the
Spice Girls in a political sense.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Interesting. We'll hear a little very eclectic.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
We'll hear a little from the communist mayor's speech and
other stuff on the way.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Some of that analysis is good Armstrong and Getty. So,
Donald Trump, since I know you're watching, I have four
words for you. Turn the volume up.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
As I've said before, the only times I've heard roarers
like that Obama, Bernie Trump. I mean, that's an enthusiastic
crime and college basketball and football. I mean, that's an
enthusiast that's not just the yay, we're on your side mostly,
but it could be somebody else and we'd be just
as excited. We just need somebody. No, this is that's
(18:55):
that's the that's the sound of a movement, right, which
is a people who mentioned were What's interesting in that
this was we predicted this. This was not a hard
prediction that when he won he was really gonna unleash.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
And why wouldn't you?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
You won by what he won, by twenty five points
or whatever, that's a pretty solid indication that your style
is hot.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Here's Van Jones on CNN with his analysis. Van Jones,
who's a Democratic operative analyst on CNN with his take
on last night.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
That's speech appeal to some, but I think he missed
an opportunity. I think the mom Donnie that we saw
in the campaign trail, who was a lot more calm,
who was a lot warmer, who was a lot more embracing,
was not present in that speech. And I think that
Mom Donnie is the one you need to hear from tonight.
(19:49):
There are a lot of people trying to figure out
can I get on this train with him or not?
Is he going to include me?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Is he going is he going.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
To be more of a class warrior even in office.
I think he missed a chance tonight to open up
and bring more people into the tent.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I think its tone was sharp.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
I think he was using the microphone in a way
that he was almost yelling. And that's not the mom
dining that we've seen on TikTok and the great interviews and.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
So I felt like there was a little bit of
a character switch here where the warm, open embracing guy
that's close to working people was not on stage night,
and there was some other voice on stage.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
That's it. He's very young.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Okay, that's good, that's you know what's funny about that?
Van Jones is a super smart guy and his mate
is living in politics. Is that you think that that
was like a mistake or missed opportunity or the real
guy was the guy who ran the guy last night?
Given the speech is some sort of phony put on?
(20:51):
What on today's Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
And Getty showed Joe Getty really missed an opportunity to
come off as a liberal. No, he had no intention
on coming off as a liberal. That would be a lie.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Mom.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Donnie was being honest. Van poor Van who I can't
I like him. I disagree with him on you know,
three quarters of stuff, but I think he's a decent
enough guy. What we heard there was a man who
was desperately hoping that the Islamist Marxist was not an
Islamic Marxist.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
He was desperately hoping that he would show his true colors,
which are a moderate man of the left who is
just rallying the kids with some rhetoric. No, Van, No,
I'm sorry to disappoint you. He's precisely what he said.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
He is, which is basically Scott Jennings take So he's
the one conservative they have on the panel of nine
to get punched every night.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Retorted right, And I love this about Scott Jennings.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
He is not your old school conservative like on Meet
the Press or really up until fairly recently on CNN
or anywhere else, who's like kind of I'm sorry, I'm conservative,
and I just really want to get along with you
lefty people. So I'm gonna sort of hint at what
I think, but I'm I'm sorry for taking your time.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
No, Scott Jennings is proud of his conservatism. I love
that about So.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
They were having a back and forth, he and Van
Jones over what mom Donnie's speech meant last night, and
here's Jennings, Oh.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Are you saying he didn't He wasn't the unifying voice
of a generation that you predicted mere moments ago acts,
Where was the man that you predicted would.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Not slice and dice dealer. Look, guys.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
He started his speech by quoting Eugene Debs, who ran
for President of the United States five times as the
Socialist Party of America candidate.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
He went after everybody that he thinks is a problem.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
People who own things, people who have businesses. He said
an interesting quote, no problem too large for government to.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Solve or too small in part.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
And so when you think of the world that way,
that every problem, no matter how small or how large,
is something for government to do.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Let me just decipher this for you.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Tax increases as far as the eye can see, which
means the people who need to provide jobs to the
young people that you say need jobs are going to
flee as quickly as they possibly can. I think this
was a divisive speech. And he clearly sees the world
in terms of the people who are oppressing you and
the oppressed, and he said the oppressed are.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Now in city Hall.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, I am glad.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Jennings highlighted that bit about there's no problem too large
or too small for government to fix.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
That is a.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Horrific statement among as many it's tough to pick a favorite.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
But that's sick.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Well, big chunk of the country believes that something ain't right,
it's a government's job to fix it, not me, my family,
a private sector.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
In any way, my town, my county, my state.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Although granted he's representing a city, but essentially government should
solve every problem.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Which if you can sell people on that.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Then if you have a lust for socialism or Marxism
in which the government controls everything, that is a great,
great thing to sell people on.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
In fact, it's completely necessary.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
You've got to destroy the nation of the notion of
limited government and of liberty or you're not going to
get over.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
My concern is.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
When I see the pushback against socialist communists, it's always
kind of a laughing oh please, as opposed to making
the argument right, the old police.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Is getten lazy. Yeah, they're black on making the argument.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah, the old please isn't working with the young crowd
who hasn't heard the argument on why socialism doesn't work.
And they're here in my rent's going to be a
I get to ride the bus for free, I get
to eat for free, I get to go to school
for free, and they aren't here any pushed back on
there's no such thing as free Where do you think
the money comes from?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Just kind of an older crowd laughing, Oh that's ridiculous,
young person.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Well, I ain't gonna work. You gotta make the argument.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, So big black SUVs are now lined up across
the George Washington Bridge into New Jersey and head for
a Connecticut or wherever. We'll have to see. Well, there's there.
I need to admit there are limits to what he
can actually accomplish in terms of moving toward his socialist
(25:38):
goals because the limits of the state government and they
have to approve certain stuff, and there's a fifty one
person city council, etcetera.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
There.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
But he'll be able to get pretty far in that direction.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
And to what extent the job creators for flee and
the rich people who are the most mobile people in
the world will go to Florida or wherever remains to
be seen. I will predict two with virtual certainty. Number One,
you will see a continuing rise in crime in New
York City as the support for the police. Waynes here's
(26:09):
a guy who has pitched defund the police in similar
notions that the police are an anti queer force for
racism or whatever the hell he said for his entire
very very short career. And the other thing is, and
you remember, in the closing days of his campaign, he
went hardcore at so called Islamophobia, really trying to whip
(26:33):
up the Muslim vote in New York City. I just
read yesterday there has been a huge increase in so
called hate crimes in New York City. Eighty eight percent
of the religion oriented hate crimes in New York City
eighty eight percent or against Jews. So if every single
(26:57):
one of the other ones was against muslim which is
not the case, it would be nine to one ish.
So nine to one anti Semitism at the very very
very very very least is a bigger problem than so
called Islamophobia. And I could redo my screed. Why does
(27:21):
one sound like a political philosophy anti Semitism, and the
other one sounds like a disease Islamophobia? Like it's an
irrational fear, there's something wrong with you. So being against
the Jews is rational, Being against Muslims is irrational. Do
you see how the left manipulates language? Anyway, I am
predicting something like blasphemy laws in New York City. Mamdanni
(27:43):
will claim that rampant anti Islam feeling justifies punishing London style,
great Britain style. Don't get me starting like a jabber
all day about this passing laws against inciting hate or discomfort.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
He might be again pushing for that tomorrow. Interesting.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
So then on the economic side, him being a socialist,
the fact that he came out there and you know,
some people like Van Jones, thinking he was going to
moderate after running as a socialist, he doubled down on it.
His opening line quoting Eugene Debs, the most successful socialist
presidential candidate in US history. Jene Debs actually got six
percent of the vote in nineteen twelve as a presidential candidate,
(28:26):
and he got quoted last night by young mom. Dammy,
that's something nice.
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So pretty important oral arguments going on in front of
the Supreme Court today as they're arguing about whether or
not President Trump has the power to do all this
tariff stuff he's been doing since he took office. He
might not, Probably shouldn't. One guy shouldn't be able to
do this. Just seems crazy that any one guy ever
be able to do that. But to agree, we have
(30:04):
some of the audio I think of that and some
early indications of where the conservatives are on this topic,
so we can bring you that among other things on
the way.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Stay here.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
There are many important issues today to discuss. I think
toward the top of the list is this Tom Brady's
cloned dog.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
Here you go, the revelation from Tom Brady about his
family pet. The former NFL star says his new dog, Juni,
is a clone of his previous dog, Lua, who died
in twenty twenty three. Brady says he worked with a
biotech company he has invested in to clone his beloved
pit bull mix using a blood sample collected while Lua
(30:46):
was alive.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
First of all, here.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
It's a publicity stunt for this company he's invested in place.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Your beloved family dog was a pit bull mix. You're
freaking Tom Brady, what are you doing getting pit bull
mixes for the family dog?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
An?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
That was the last straw I Giselle dumped him. Could
be any who, Katie, you love your dog, Joe loves
his dog. Michael's got cat? Yeah? Hey, hey what that
was speciesist?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Michael.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I'm standing up for you. I'm not going to have this,
this casual derision of your lifestyle choices.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Not allowed to say Michael has cats. It was the
way you said it. I didn't notice it. Michael less cats.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
How do you feel about the need to clone our
dog because we like the current one so much?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Now, no evener than idiotic.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
I thought you might be a yes on that, Katie,
now because it's not the same dog. Ah, you are
well read enough on this topic to realize, yes, it
is not the same dog. It will not behave the
same It's well, it's not the same dog, period. You
don't even really need anything after that. It's not the
same dog, but it's.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
A particular source of self indulgent more money than sense madness.
And that's the one chink in the armor of my
hero Javier and Milai.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Didn't he clone his dog five, he's got the city,
he had a favorite dog, and he's got five of
exactly the same and no kids. So that is a
weird thing about it. But anyway, I don't want to
get a hung up on that any port in a storm.
So yeah, and Tom Brady's invested in this corporation that
will do it. And from what I understand, I have
no idea how true this is, particularly among the wealthy.
(32:30):
Cloning their beloved Fufu who passed away is a thing
because you're stupid and think it's going to be the
same dog.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
It's a weird sort.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Of conceit to think that Fufu was just so special.
She was the most special dog ever. I mean, I've
got to say that. Because I'm a rich person, I
can't say, yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
The dogs are great. The dog's a dog. The next
one will be as good as this one. From them,
No no, no, no, no no, yeah, go say have
another dog hit the shelter. That's a good mix. There's
plenty of them, no kidding, yeah, no kiddingy.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Do you serve a three hundred and fifty dollars bottle
of wine when there are plenty of seventy five dollars
bottles that everybody's good. It's the same answer to a
different question to show showing how rich you.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Are, gotcha.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Uh yeah, no kidding, Particularly in Tom Brady's case, you
need to put bull mix.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Go to your local shelter.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Maybe not where he lives, but drive a little further
outside of town from where you live and go to
a shelter.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
There are lots of pit bull mixes, oh plenty to
choose from.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, but that's part of the way I stay down
on earth is though I am fabulously wealthy, I generally
drink a prison toilet pruno I've got well, I've got
it my own, you know pruno toilet that I use.
We don't use it for anything but action of my
prison style wine.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
It's not multi It keeps me connected to you common people.
You know. That reminds me. You're a I'm choking.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
You're a fan of speaking of being fancy, you're a
fan of the bidet. Oh yes, I am, and uh
I the house I moved into it has a bidet
in my bathroom, and I have an actual bidet. You're
like the seat of the day seat on top of
your toilet. That one Okay, of a day is a
separate thing, right, yeah? Yeah, formally speaking, I stayed in
(34:17):
a European hotel and it had the separate thing, and
I never used it, and you gotta hop on over
to use it. It's ridiculous. But I got the bidet
thing that this is. Isn't that what most people get
for a Yeah? What's exactly the attachment? The attachment? Okay,
but I've never used it, and I just have never
(34:37):
even thought about figuring. There's no instruction manual, and I
don't want you know, uh, water up my you hoo
if I if I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Stream electric lyching, but I'm not gonna use your money
if the electricity burns me, your blinds me?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Come on line? Here is that Jack's got a you? Who?
That was new?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
I like joke comparing middays to electricity. Yeah, in terms
of a look.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
At you, what do you think it's gonna blast you
junk off or something. I'm gonna try you a coward.
I'm afraid I'll like it. You won't be able to
get me out of there. Yeah, So I don't know,
I really I just don't know how to use it.
And I don't know who I would ask? Can you
come into my toilet and show me how to use this?
(35:25):
Ask you ask Groc right, and have that record preserved forever.
But what what's your hesitance here to like ask the
internet or what brand is it? There's a number of
knobs and buttons, and I just don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You take a picture of it, send it to GROC
and say how do I use this thing? And I'm
flipping sixty years old. I've lived my whole life without one,
and it's been fine. Although you say it's a.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Damn pin of shilling, I'm not user. Not to hear
my section it's new fanvored. I've lived sixty years old,
as ab Shasta are telling about it.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I not use no new fangle drugs.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Game now comparing penicillin to a bidang, which is apt comparison,
of course, A right?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Where were we?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Well?
Speaker 3 (36:14):
So important stuff to discuss? Is it just I've power
washed many things in my life. I used to when
I worked at the feed lot, I was regularly power
washing things. Is not basically what you're doing. You're power
washing your undercarriage right with the uh the water pressure
appropriately dialed back. You're not taking the paint off the
quarter panel and an old Chrysler.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
You're you're indeed just cleansing your your nether regions. Yes,
and again, what if I like it so much you
can't get me out of there?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Dad? We're hungry. I don't care. I am staying here.
As long as we got water pressure, I'm staying in here. Okay.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Supreme Court oral arguments going on. We got a little
clip of that and some of the analysis on the
whole tariff thing, among other things.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
In hour three.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
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