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December 3, 2025 37 mins

Hour 2 of A&G features...

  • Trump on Somalis & the scandal
  • Jack's voice, Minnesota theft & the worst field goal attempt
  • Waymo problems & self driving technology
  • Double tap drug boat controversy

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Jetty and no he Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Last night, President Trump posted over one hundred and sixty
times on Truth's social averaging more than one post a minute. Well,
I think we know where Venezuela's cocaine has been going.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, that's not it, obviously, But what was it?

Speaker 4 (00:41):
One hundred and fifty eight tweets or truths or whatever
they call them in two and a half hours or
something like that.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
That's stream of consciousness, top of the head communication with
the American people. I like that better than Biden. But
maybe there's an in between. Yeah, that's interesting. How about
you you know the whole right it, then sleep on it,
and if it's still a good idea, send it tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
How about we just go with five minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Well, the guy doesn't sleep much, so he's up late
and he just starts sending out thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
So, here's the report from the utterly dishonest mainstream media.

Speaker 6 (01:21):
The president is increasingly going after Somali immigrants, and now
sources tell us that ICE is preparing for a surge
operation in Minneapolis, which has a large Somali population. But
the mayor of Minneapolis says President Trump is wrong and
that these immigrants have only greatly improved their community.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Oh that's funny.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
The President in the next clip has a contrasting point
of view.

Speaker 7 (01:45):
We're going to go the wrong way if we keep
taking in garbage into our country. Elan Omar is garbage.
She is garbage, Her friends are garbage. These are people
that work. These are people that say, let's go, come on,
let's make this place great.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
People that do nothing but complain.

Speaker 7 (02:02):
But when they come from hell and they complain and
do nothing but bitch, we don't want them in our contract.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
Now, let me get back to the mayor before you
talk about the president. So the mayor is saying they've
been nothing but.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
A positive for our community.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
You gotta quit trying to sell that to people. It
doesn't work unless you're just so far down the road
of diversity and believing that's important.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Because you got to lie to yourself.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
If you import a bunch of poor people who don't
speak English into your neighborhood, that is not going to
immediately make your neighborhood better.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's impossible. It's impossible. It's impossible that you bring in.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
A bunch of poor people who don't speak your language
or all your culture and it makes your neighborhood better. Now,
you can make the argument that over time, with assimilation
and bringing in new ideas, it makes our nation stronger.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
You can try to sell me on that, but you
can't possible claim.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
That if you dump a bunch of poor people who
don't speak English in my neighborhood, that my neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Just got better. That's a lie. That's a freaking lie.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
Two thoughts Number one, what if those people have a culture,
indeed a religion that is openly hostile to your culture,
and also come from a country where ripping off government
programs is the way everybody gets by. You don't think
there's a hazard there. That's absurd. That's saying the pro
the pro.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
You know, a large scale immigration crowd needs to crap.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
You need to try to sell it long term or whatever.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Don't pretend that my neighborhood changing into something different overnight.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Oh that's what we were all thinking at the.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Backyard barbecue the other night. I wish we all moved here,
but we wish this neighborhood would change completely. Different music,
different food, different language. We just love it if it
changed completely, That's why we live here. For it to
change into something else, but doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
I know, It's just it's a lie second thought, and
I'm jumping the gun a little bit. Because Jason Riley
has a great piece about this in the Journal. Various
politicians have been quoted as saying, you can't win Minneapolis
unless you have the Somali vote.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Wow, you can't win it.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
And you can't win Minnesota unless you have Minneapolis.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
So goes the power of ethnic urban politics. So what
spawned all this? Well, after really years, the mainstream media
has decided and others, even the conservative media have decided
the story of the massive ongoing fraud and theft from

(04:44):
the taxpayers of America in Minnesota, in particular by a
bunch of criminals in the Somali the Minneapolis's tightly knit
Somali diaspar community is worth talking about. The nation finally
awakening to an ongoing scandal of massive proportions where state
taxpayers have had somewhere north of one billion dollars stolen

(05:04):
from them by constrength as concentric rings of welfare fraudsters
based in and around Minneapolis's Somali community, and there's all
sorts of significance to this story. They note in the
National Review the depth of the fraud and how long
it was ignored by the media at large. In September

(05:24):
of twenty two, the federal government began to indict multiple
sets of Minneapolis area Somali Americans on charges of the
defrauding Minnesota welfare and public assistance programs. First came the
Feeding Our Future scandal, where so far seventy five defendants
associated with the Somali charitable organization allegedly chose to feed

(05:46):
on the sudden flood of COVID money available to anyone
who could even vaguely claim a good cause.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Feeding Our Future hoovered up millions.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
Of dollars of COVID funding with the promise of providing
school lunches to disadvantage children in the Twin Cities Somali community.
Well to their credit, the FBI back in twenty twenty
two rated their fake meal locations, and the federal indictments
have been piling up ever since. But that turns out
to be only one of multiple government fraud schemes emerging

(06:17):
from the Twin City Somali community during.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
The COVID era.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
September eighteenth of this year, federal prosecutors also dropped the
first in a wave of indictments against eight defendants for
defrauding the state's housing stabilization program to the tunes of
hundreds of millions of dollars. Hundreds of millions. Yeah, and
there's much more that they're working to untangle.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
This is just these are.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
The investigations that are done, and they're ready to prosecute.
They note in the National Review appropriately that the scandal
has finally been dignified over the weekend with a New
York Times investigative article that calls out Tim Waltz that
useless embarrassment for his responsibility for coach Walls.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I know, yeah, I know, he's changing his carburetor. He's
going to teach men how to be masculine. I'm a
knucklehead sometimes and I'm a ninyhead eight times.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
So the New York Times has given Progressive America permission
to notice the matter, although that article, which I read,
was full of Republicans pounds as verbiage, which is utterly unnecessary,
lent as a career prosecutor. The federal lead on the
case says, fraud crisis didn't come out of nowhere. It's

(07:31):
the result of widespread failure, of course, across nearly every
level of leadership in Minnesota. You know, we could get
into that, but the unpleasant reality is that we imported
an element of Somalia's culture of criminality, and for no
good reason. While bogus charges a racism, we're used to
keep suspicious authorities from following up on the blatant signs

(07:52):
that something was a miss.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
And there was a heap blow to that.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
Every time somebody would look into this, they were accused
of races them. So the scandal raises the question what
does America owe to those who seek to immigrate here.
Surely we as the nation are not commanded to accept
an in an endless influx of people from third world
countries with cultures opposite, inimical to American values, merely because
they have the status of quote unquote refugees. What cases

(08:20):
there to be made for admitting them in numbers large
enough to recreate the cultural pathologies they escaped only in
miniature well, and then own the politics of a state
that was just illustrating skipping ahead. Here's another angle of
it headline from Fox News, ABC, NBC, and CBS. Evening
newscasts ignore widening Minnesota fraud case on Tim Waltz's watch.

(08:46):
Fox News was on it, of course last night, but
the Alphabet networks pretended it didn't happen. Unbelievable. Moving along
to Jason Riley's piece, which I think is well worth highlighting,
and he talks about how the Manhattan Institute and what
is the other I'll think of the other publication that's

(09:08):
been doing good reporting on this, because they deserve the credit.
But last month the City Journal published an investigative report
by Ryan Thorpe and Christopher Ruffo about COVID related fraud.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
In the Somali thing. What we've been talking about.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
Instead of instead of them using the money to provide
housing or medicase services, all the stuff they owned, quote,
the money was being used to fund lavish lifestyles, purchase
luxury vehicles, and by real estate, including in foreign countries.
According to The New York Times, Minnesota's fraud scandal stood
out even in the context of rampant theft during the pandemic,

(09:43):
when Americans well and foreigners that's interesting that the New
York Times would say just Americans stole tens of billions
of dollars to unemployment benefits, business loans and other forms
of made et cetera, et cetera. Here's the quote, even Bath,
it happens, you know, to the point that that was
a you know, plenty of born here in this country.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
People were ripping off a lot of that COVID money.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
That happens when you start throwing out trillions of dollars,
all kinds of people are going to be stealing it.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Oh yeah, and everybody at every level of government knew
that they were squandering your tax dollars, but wanted to
buy an inflated hot economy to save their own skins.
So here's a couple of key quotes. Former state senator
told Thorpe and Rufo quote, the media does not want
to put a light on this. And if you're a politician,
it's a significant disadvantage for you to alienate the Somali community.

(10:38):
If you don't win the Somalik community, you can't win Minniceapolis.
And if you don't win Minneapolis, you can't win the state.
In a follow up, Rufo wrote that critics on the
left were accusing him and as co author of racist reporting. God,
we've got to just ignore that completely, all of us.
Apparently no one is supposed to notice that Minnesota's welfare
fraud was heavily concentrated among people who are relatively new

(11:00):
to the country and share ethnic identity, writes Jason Riley.
Rufo says, quote, and this, you know what, I'm gonna
get this tattooed on me. I'm finally gonna get a tattoo.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Okay, here we go.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
A description of.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
The facts should not be measured as racist or not racist,
but rather as true or not true.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
That's pretty good. That is really, no kidding, no kidding.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
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Speaker 2 (11:42):
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off by the Somali's and all kinds of different stuff

(12:37):
and many people asking what's wrong with my voice?

Speaker 2 (12:39):
We'll have to answer that question. Stay tuned, Armstrong.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Quick things to get back into Joe explaining how people
are ripping off taxpayers in Minnesota, particularly the Somali community. One,
what's wrong with my voice? I don't know, a number
of people have been texting. That's just the way I sound.
I have a coldness, is why I sound.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I don't know. Maybe I'm dying. Could be that. Two.
I saw it all dying jack slowly from time. This
is a good point. Two.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
I saw the pictures of the drunk raccoon passed out
by the toilet. That raccoon had.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
A big night.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
That again hitting a little close to home exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
The fact that he got drunk and then passed out
next to a toilet is too much.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
That's funny because as far as I can discern, raccoons
don't use toilets to vomit or otherwise.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Right, it's almost to make perfect to drag it in
there or even know what a toilet is.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Well, So it's a good point.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
And thirdly, the way the media takes on stories like
the Somali thing. Joe was talking about Republicans pounds. You
either know that troper you don't. But for instance, Time
magazine what to know about Trump's targeting of Somalis in Minnesota.
Have they done any stories on what to know about
Somali's ripping off taxpayers in Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Probably not, but they do.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
A story of what to know about Trump's targeting of
Somali's Like, that's the story, not the original taxpayer ripoff,
which is what Trump's commenting.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
On, right exactly.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
So.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
Ahmad Samitar, an expert on Somali culture at McAllister College,
told The New York Times that many Somali refugees were
raised in a culture where stealing from the government was common,
and that a reckoning over the fraud was overdue. So
here's an expert on Somali culture. Is like, oh, yeah,
ripping off the government is what you do, Okay? So

(14:36):
is he eurasist, mister Ahmed Samitar morons? Anyway, Then Jason
Riley goes into a little American history, which I found
very very interesting in the early nineteen hundreds, because the
Somalis are hardly the first immigrant group to arrive in
America with a little cultural baggage. In the early nineteen hundreds,
crime was so prevalent in New York's Jewish and Italian

(14:57):
neighborhoods that a specialized detective was established and the city's
police commissioner wrote that among the most expert of all
the street thieves are the Hebrew boys under sixteen Da
da da. Chinese immigrants who arrived in California during the
mid eighteen hundreds during the Gold Rush earned a reputation
for poor hygiene, prostitution, gambling, and other behavior that fanned

(15:19):
anti Chinese sentiment poor hiling the mass Following the massive
influx of Irish immigrants beginning around the same time. It
was hard not to notice that cholera, tuberculosis, and alcoholism
disproportionately plagued Irish communities. So he points out these weren't
negative perceptions or ugly stereotypes. They were truth, and fortunately

(15:43):
these groups were willing to face reality. The Chinese and
Americans formed benevolent societies to help new arrivals assimilate. Jewish
leaders in New York themselves established a Bureau of Social
Morals and worked with police to address the crime problem,
and according to the History and Howard Sacker, by the
nineteen twenties, Jews and criminality cease to be interchangeable terms

(16:04):
in the public vernacular. In other words, cultures can adapt,
but that will require confronting the problem rather than ignoring
it or pretending that anyone who speaks out is acting
in bad faith or you know.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Is a racist. Well said, as always, Jason Riley, back
when we used to call out hygiene.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Finally we just we need to air so far back
toward plain common sense. Oh, which reminds me later in
the show a gender bending madness update that absolutely proves
this battle has just begun the entrenched forces of postmodernism.
They are absolutely not laying down their weapons. They're just

(16:45):
adapting their game and fighting as hard as they can
to keep the perversion going.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Has anybody seen that kicker from the Giants alive? No,
the guy that kicked his foot into the ground two feet.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Behind the ball the other night of Monday Night football?
Is he okay?

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Is he?

Speaker 2 (17:07):
The great?

Speaker 5 (17:08):
JT and Livermore was the thought? I wish I'd had
it myself. I'm a little ashamed.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Guys.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
There's almost zero chance that the failed kick was natural.
There's a reason people are saying worst ever, I've never
seen that what yet, because no serious kicker could muffet
that bad a decade plus building up muscle memory, et cetera,
et cetera. I smell another micro bet scandal.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Wow, it's funny that we all didn't jump to that immediately,
having just watched the videos of those pitches from a
couple of weeks ago, where we know for a fact
the guy throwing the ball like straight into the ground
halfway to the plate was on purpose because he had
money on it.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
The only problem with that theory the holder badly bobbled
the snap and it looked there for a second, and
all you have is the second that the kicker wasn't
going to be able to kick.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
It at all.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
That it was a complete abort run the ball situation.
So yeah, he completely lost focus. It was also the
worst attempt in the history of the NFL. But I
say not malfeasant sputting competence.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
Sure's funny to watch, though every time I see it,
I laugh. We've got more on the way. If you
missed a second, make it the podcast Armstrong and Getty
on demand.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 7 (18:18):
Oh my god, Oh my god, what the is that
weimo doing?

Speaker 4 (18:33):
So that was a police stand off in Los Angeles
in which the weimo drove.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Into the middle of it. That's you know, that's not
what you want out of your weimo. No, that'd make
for an exciting and perhaps final ride. And here's a
report from NBC News about Weimo.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
A line of police cars blocking the road and a
man lying on the ground. Entered this Weimo driverless taxi,
which while servicing riders, proceeds to take a left turn,
driving right past the active police stop, and officers two
moments later are seen walking towards the subject with weapons drawn.
In a statement of the company saying safety is our
highest priority and that when we encounter unusual events like

(19:09):
this one, we learn from them. Their vehicles are still
facing challenges. Last year, a passenger got stuck in a
Weimo after the car repeatedly circled around a parking lot
at the Phoenix Airport, and a federal investigation is now
underway into Weimo's repeatedly passing stop school buses with lights flashing.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
That ain't good, But for whatever reason, the mainstream media
loves stories of Weimo or Tesla's automatic driving when it fails.
I don't know what exactly that's all about, but regardless,
we all know that the day is coming when they
get all those kinks worked out and that will no

(19:48):
longer be a problem.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Right.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
I thought I would think so everybody agrees on that
I think interestingly headlined in the Wall Street Journal, weaimo's
self driving cars are suddenly behaving like New York cabvies.
Autonomous vehicles are adopting human like qualities, making illegal U
turns and flooring it the second light turn screen.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Wow, that's interesting. I'd like to know something about how
it learned to do that and why. But the latest
Tesla update for their FSD they call it for full service.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Driving, is so good. Oh, it's just unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
I did the first time the other day, tried to
like do from my driveway where I hit the button
and had me take me all the way, and it
was so good. The way that technology has improved in
just a couple of years of me using it is
quite amazing.

Speaker 7 (20:34):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
And Elon keeps promising that they'll be able to go
you know, you don't have to pay attention anymore, blah
blah blah, that sort of stuff. So that leads us
to this. This is this doctor who wrote a piece
over the weekend in the New York Times, a guest
essay about autonomous vehicle safety. WEIMO recently released data covering

(20:58):
nearly one hundred million driverless miles. Weimo is a driverless taxi.
I guess we should throw that out in case you
don't know that. We live in the area where they started,
San Francisco, and they have Weymo taxis all over the
place in San Francisco, and now they're spread across different
cities across America. Weimo recently released data covering nearly one
hundred million driverless miles. I spent weeks analyzing it because

(21:20):
the results seem too good to be true. Ninety one
percent fewer serious injury crashes than human driven taxis, ninety
two percent less pedestrians hit, ninety six percent fewer injury
crashes at intersections.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
The list goes on, and then he makes this.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Argument, Thirty nine thousand Americans died in auto crashes last year.
It's more than homicide, plane crashes, and natural disasters combined.
It's the number two killer of children and young adults,
number one cause of spinal cord injury. We've accepted this
as a price of mobility. We no longer have to right, Yeah,

(21:56):
I'm dying, so to get and then we'll have the
conversation I wanted to get to. Charles CW. Cook on
The National Reviews response to that essay was this, I
like Waymo, But the moment that this argument switches, as
it inevitably will, from we have cool new technology that

(22:16):
works and is available everywhere and saves lives too, you
must now be banned from driving your own car. I
am going to become a foe, says Charles sa Cook.
As am I as are a lot of people. But
good luck with that, because it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
I hate it. I hate it a lot.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
I don't think there's a chance in hell that my
kids will end their lives getting to drive cars wherever.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
They want to in the United States of America on
their own.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
I would agree the track is to slick. Probably an
unfortunate metaphor in the math is too easy to do.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's number one.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
It's safety, and especially on the left, safety is the
only priority that matters. It matters more than liberty, even
it matters more than fun and adventure and discovery.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
It's just safety.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
Even though traffic deaths are way down, but when they
were at their highest, I had this number the other day.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
I think the highest was nineteen seventy one.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Adjusted for population inflation, it'd be like the equivalent of
like ninety five thousand people a year dying. Even with
those levels of people dying, we're all perfectly comfortable going
out driving every day. Everybody's willing to take that risk
for the enjoyment of freedom. Whatever of driving it wasn't.
We weren't cringing, scared to death. In fact, we're the opposite.

(23:33):
We're staring at our phone as we fly down the freeway.
That's how little we're worried about it. But safetyism will
take over, and then you bring in the insurance companies
and the lawyers, and goodbye freedom to drive ever again.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
I think it's inevitable. I hate it. It hurts my
heart to think about it.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
I don't talk about it around my son because it's
gonna just devastate him if he finds out that by
the time he's twenty five, he will no longer be
able to drive a car.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
He can't wait.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
And the resultant never ending government tracking of our whereabouts, right,
I mean, that's going to be part of it.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
You'll never go anywhere ever again where it's not tracked.
It's practically that way now because we carry phones in our.

Speaker 5 (24:12):
Pockets, right, There will be a certain percentage of US
lone wolfs.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Who wolves?

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Who will you know, disable tracking devices and break the
motor laws to quote a great rush song.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, but no, I don't see any flaw on your logic.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
No, be Uh the SAFETYSM combined with the insurance companies
and the lawyers, I mean, how how you're going to
get around that. It's it's going to be a situation
where the insurance would just be so expensive, right that
you just can't afford to drive. And then at some
point they'll probably just flat out law it well.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
Right because you know, the insurance would be expensive because
the pool of the risk pool would get very very small,
because only a certain number of people would be the
lone wolfists. Uh.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Well, and when the technology gets practically perfect, and as
if you heard these waymost stats, it's really good already
you can understand the insurance company's argument. You can be
throw in you can get a little so you can
get a little loving d'uring your your drive there, or
watch your favorite movie.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Maybe you watch you know, a full.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
Metal jacket in four parts as you go back and
forth to work or whatever.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
You know, they could sweeten the pot a little bit.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Well, and I've got a factor in the fact that
I'm an outlier. Apparently every single human I talked to
as I was driving across the country, I told him
what I had doing it.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Oh my god, why don't you fly? I just want
to get there?

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Nobody likes driving like I do, so I'm I have
reaped to realize I'm an outlier. Most people hate the
idea of driving, so they're gonna willingly give up being
able to get out.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
On the open road and go wherever the hell they want,
whenever they want.

Speaker 5 (25:48):
Well, I've got to steal man the other side's argument.
After I do that, I'm gonna run its steel ass down.
But here's what if. What if chain saws killed thirty
nine thousand Americans every year? Now, granted, chainsaws aren't nearly
as necessary, but let me just go with it.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Maybe we can work on the metaphor as we go.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
So chainsaws kill thirty nine thousand people here, and they
come up with an automated chainsaw that you put.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
The tree or whatever the log in there, and the.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
Chainsaw just it does a real nice cut, and you
can stand back with your goggles and watch you do it.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
It's zero risk to yourself chaincea.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
Would they still sell the regular old chainsaw? Which could
you even buy them?

Speaker 4 (26:33):
I don't think you're even steel manning it as well
as you can, because that's just me taking the risk.
How about if chainsaws killed your neighbors? You using a
chainsaw killed your neighbors, you know, tens of thousands of
times a year when they're just minding their own business.
Because that's why carrecks are. Other people driving poorly can

(26:54):
kill me.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
Now, don't get all pissed off and back over me
with your weird looking true fuck, what if you're just
wrong on this one? There are so many advantages. It's
clearly a good idea. Now I can't say that without
getting a sick feeling in my stomach, because every step
away from liberty I think in this country is a
bad one.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
I think I am literally wrong. That's why it's going
to happen. But I still don't like it. I still
don't like it at all. I much prefer the idea.
I will willingly the rest of my life drive out
on the roads knowing that about forty thousand people a
year die sometimes it's not your fault, and still drive
around this country and love it with that risk, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
But it's gonna get taken away from us. It just is. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
I feel like a guy whose family is constantly being
attacked illegitimately, false accusations and slanders. Then somebody in my
family actually does something wrong. I don't want to admit it.
I don't want to give up more liberty, even if
it's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Just the idea sickens me. Get it go ahead?

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Speaker 4 (29:07):
I know I've said this before, but it wasn't very
many years ago. I'm old, but I'm not like one
hundred and fifty. It wasn't very many years ago. And
I like to go on road trips. I'd go on
a road trip and there wouldn't anybody in the country
knew where I was. I mean nobody, and it would
been impossible to know I'm in Montana in some hotel

(29:30):
that I paid cash for. You know, I was paying
cash at the gas stations. I mean, there's no record
of where I am at all, right, And I think
that's fantastic, but I can't really nail down.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Why.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
I just like the freedom of I'm doing whatever the
hell I want and nobody's keeping track of it. Now
that is completely gone. Everything has to be on a
credit card, so the credit card companies know you're carrying
your phone. Everybody knows the location, and soon it will
be the thing will be driving you. And there's a
map that I'm sure the government will have access to
of everywhere you go, cameras on you, every building you

(30:05):
walk into. That can't possibly be a good thing.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yeah, you know, I think I've come up with my
stance on this because what you just described, the change
has made it vastly more difficult to be a serial killer.
There has been a huge drop in serial killings.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
In the United States.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
And so those of you who, in the interest of
safety and law and order want to push things further
in that direction. I understand that you're not entirely wrong.
You keep pushing for that. I'm going to keep pushing
for liberty just because you only have so much time
on earth. I'm going to make that my cause, and

(30:46):
I'm going to try to counterbalance your worst do good
or impulses.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
I'm not saying you're always wrong.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
I'm just saying if we let you people run rough shot,
we will go even further down the road of becoming
a nation of veal calves, well, a nation of Mandarin
speaking field calves. Because the hard asses of the world
aren't going to say leave them alone. They're soft and
they have lots of resources, so don't be mean to them.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Please.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Before we take a break, what would be your guess
how many more years we have the freedom to drive.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
The moment the technology is although it's very close to
being good enough, very very quickly after there's a general
consensus that it's safe and effective the technology.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
So do you think it's single digit years or decade
or more from now? Less than a decade?

Speaker 4 (31:40):
I don't bet it is, too boy, that's bad news.
If you're a young man looking forward to drive, like.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
My son, well, either listen to these incredibly important and
helpful commercial messages or a queue up Rushes song the
Red Barchetta, and enjoy it during the commercial break a
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Speaker 2 (31:58):
More on the way stair, We'll get this.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
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shareable highlight reel of your years watch history.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
In other words, blackmail. Yeah, now, your.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Friend, continue a reel of all the videos you didn't
watch the first time he sent them to you.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
You gotta love. This was great. You gotta watch guys.
Know the trampoline you gonna forget.

Speaker 7 (32:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
The best thing about Fallon is is he seems to
have a a good heart, a positive spirit. As he
does as humor. He's not superior and hateful like a Kimmel.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Or Jerry Seinfeld says, Jimmy Sallen is the most normal
person in all of show business.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
Yeah, I believe it seems like a fine bloke. Speaking
of fine blokes, he's the president of the United States.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Then we're gonna start doing those strenks on land too.
You know, the land is much easier.

Speaker 7 (32:56):
It's much easier, and we know the routes you take,
We know everything about we know where they live, we
know where.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
The bad ones live, and we're going to shut that
very soon too.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
Trump talking about the powers that be in Venezuela and
the drug cartels and whatever we're up to there, which
again I think is just establishing that this is our
neighborhood and there are going to be no more Narco
states unfriendly the United states, We're.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Not We're going to start rockets hitting people on land
in Venezuela.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Perhaps this is not a bluff per se.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
I think that Trump is saying, look, you're going to
make a deal with us, or we're going to blow
you to smitherings. Anyway, on the boat, the double tap
controversy got this note from Joe the Marine. He says,
good morning, gents. I've been biting my tongue over this
boat thing for a couple of days. But Mike Lions
commentary yesterday on the show Grab It By Podcast, if
you missed it, hit the nail on the head. This
is a political scheme that's akin to the strife we

(33:50):
had in the Vietnam War and creates huge issues within
the services. The only thing he didn't address that I
would is that we need clarity for the context. As
Mike Clients said, people seem to think this is Leonardo
DiCaprio trying to fit on the floating door outside the
sinking Titanic. While a hell fire missile is a precision weapon,
it's not precise enough to strike a person floating in

(34:10):
the water. Having run controls on several it would get close.
But anything that is not the person. It would splash
into the water and probably never even set off the warhead.
It needs a decent sized target, a vehicle, at tank,
a building. I haven't seen the videos, but from a
weaponearing perspective, there's almost certainly a boat still floating, which
if the mission is to destroy it, then it would

(34:31):
require a reattack. This is political banter of the worst kind.
Military operates within the law, but fog of war is
real and split seconds. Decisions are made by people with
years of experience to make that decision using their best
military judgment, with the goal of the mission accomplishment within
the law. If politicians start witch hunting service members, we
create an environment of hesitation which leads to bloodshed for Americans.

(34:55):
Question the validity of the executive policy and the decision
to prosecute the campaign. Don't start poking at the individual
actions within the scope of that campaign anyway. Zero and two,
Well said Joe, Well done, sir, appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
So the OFT commented on for the last week or
so that you don't it's against the law to bomb
shipwreck survivors. That assumes the ship has wrecked. What if
the ship is not wrecked yet we're trying to sink
an aircraft carrier and it hadn't been sunk yet. There's
still people on it, but it hasn't been sunk yet.

(35:29):
It might be sinking. We're not sure. We're going to
hit it again to make sure it sinks, right, bombed
up Jesus out of it.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:35):
Absolutely, And having heard personally stories from and Jack, I
know you have too, at least as much as me,
stories from folks who served in Afghanistan particular, but also Iraq,
where the rules of engagement were so handcuffing them that
it was a statement that, look for kind of political
pr reasons, we're gonna let more of you guys get killed, killed, dead,

(35:59):
or horribly aim so you don't like accidentally shoot first
and make a mistake that it made me so madic
could barely function. And what Joe the Marine and other
people are pointing out is all right, go after the
mission if you want, but do not be armchair quarterbacking
guys who have to make the quick decisions. I agree
with that completely.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Now, where is this story going? The Venezuela story, yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:25):
The bigger story yea, I don't know. This is clearly
an assertive and overdue policy. You've heard me advocating this
for years, to really clean up our neighborhood and make
our neighborhood about America and its allies. But the not
every tin horned jackass kami who grabs power in some

(36:47):
god forsaken Banana Republic.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Why would we do that? Name a superpower that's ever
done that. It's stupid. But Trump got what did he get?
Eighty million votes or something like that?

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Wasn't one of them because they wanted regime chaining in Venezuela.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
He's ahead of his time. Oh no, no, just that we
got our hemisphere needs to be our hemisphere.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yeah, that'll be interesting to watch and we'll talk about
it because that's what we do. And if you miss
a segment in an hour you should get or an
hour you should get the podcast Armstrong you getting on demand.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
That's how it works.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
I will admit that if that is the policy, it's
going to be a big, challenging, complicated and I hope
we're going in with both eyes wide open.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah, it often gets more complicated than you're expecting. Its right,
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