April 24, 2025 • 35 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- Pride Puppy curriculum in our schools
- Real ID & farmbots!
- Trump in talks with Russia about ending the war
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Debt Tatie and he Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
This is not just about books. This is about exposure
to people of different sexual orientations. And the objection, the
sincerely held objection that children shouldn't be exposed to this.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Again, our clients are not raising those and we know
that these kinds of objections aren't happening here.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
The board is imposing indoctrination on children.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
I thought Baxter did very well. I thought the Trump
administration Harris, the assistance Solicitor General, also did extraordinarily well.
And Baxter kept on shutting down the argument. You know,
Jackson said, do you you don't have any affidavits or declarations.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
He said, yes, I do.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
And when he said when they said, well, you just
don't want people to have access to this, and he
said that's not true. He said, we have no objection
to these books being available. This is very different from that.
And then just as so am I er try to
portray them as you just don't want people to see
the image of a of a same sex couple. There's
no real lesson here, and her own colleagues jumped in
(01:21):
and said, there is a lesson here.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
There's a definite message being sent here.
Speaker 7 (01:26):
Which is, don't pay attention to so of my rror,
don't even bother. She's she's talking abouttionate justice.
Speaker 8 (01:33):
We're talking about the We're talking about the book Pride
Puppy and what you're going to hear more about in
a second, and other books like that that are in
school libraries.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
But that well, sorry I got to jump in.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
That's specifically what the lawyers were saying is not the case.
It's that this is being taught as a curriculum aggressively.
There's no you find the book on the shelf, check
it out because you're interested. It's being given affirmatively to
kids from ages three on and todd is part of
a whole curriculum.
Speaker 8 (02:04):
Right, good point. I don't think they should even be
in the library. I'm sorry why I would agree?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Just why why is it there?
Speaker 8 (02:12):
Oh look, here's a dude explaining why Pride Puppy is
a perfectly fine book and it's just hate.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
This is Pride Puppy by Robin Stephenson and Julian maclachlin.
Speaker 9 (02:22):
It doesn't get more innocent than a children's alphabet.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Book see for Car or Old Chevrolet.
Speaker 9 (02:27):
But this one about a dog that breaks loose from
its family while at a Pride parade. He is now
at the center of a censorship case going before the
US Supreme Court.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
It was pitched as a parental rights religious freedom case,
when what I think it's doing is hiding hiding. It's
hate really disguised as parental rights. And what people are
taking offense at, I believe is the fact that Pride
isn't the title, and there are Pride flags in the book.
Speaker 8 (02:56):
That absolutely not a censorship case. That is unlank and believable.
Play that again, just because that thing at the beginning,
I like.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Play that again.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
This is Pride Puppy by Robin Stevenson and Jolie McLachlin.
Speaker 9 (03:07):
It doesn't get more innocent than a children's alphabet book.
Speaker 10 (03:11):
Right.
Speaker 11 (03:12):
That.
Speaker 8 (03:13):
I love that the news lady coming in. It doesn't
get more innocent than a children's alphabet book. How in
the world do you present that story like that and
pretend you're a journalist. It's a censorship Supreme Court mascar
rating is a parent's right case, rights case, as we
tell three year olds about drag queens and and and
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and they can be a little girl. And we've had
into every lesson in school. Yeah, yeah, censorship. Here's a
little bit of a response video to that. And then
I'll fill in some gaps.
Speaker 10 (03:47):
Today we're going to have a reading of Pride Puppy
for all the beautiful queerdos and the late mister pants
dancing over the rainbow bridge.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Oh, that's it. I don't know what querdos are.
Speaker 8 (04:06):
I assume that's another one of her books, because she's
some sort of a very popular author of this sort
of thing. Quirdo's like, they call us weird because we like,
you know, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So where's weird? Yes?
Speaker 8 (04:19):
And then uh, and then he goes through the Pride
Puppy book and the the the basic story of the
book is it's a a puppy that gets loose from
its owners and runs through a pride parade.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And then you see all these and I don't know.
Speaker 8 (04:31):
Why, the barking there is the Pride puppy there, and
then they're trying to catch the dog, and then you
see all these different colorful characters in the parade and
all the rainbow flags and the drag queens are trying
to chase the dog. And it's just an innocent book
about teaching, you know, phonics to kids. And then in
the back of the book they have they go letter
by letter like you do in a lot of these
sorts of books trying to teach reading through the alphabet,
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for instance, like I as in infant insulin, inflatable tube,
sex flag, and insect.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
What of all the eye.
Speaker 8 (05:06):
Words that like you come in contact normally in your life,
that you could.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
Say blue or ice cream inter sex flag.
Speaker 8 (05:14):
Instead of igloo or ice cream, you go with intersex flag.
I mean, it's transparently hilarious what you're doing to get
us through. It's this is for as young as three
year old, is Justice Gorsuch kept pointing out, it's just to.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Get your five year older or even your fifteen year.
Speaker 8 (05:33):
Old to say what's an intersex flag and get into
the whole conversation.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
There's other examples under K.
Speaker 8 (05:41):
Kites, kiss drag king, knapsack keys, not king drag king.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Under k Well, that way they got to put it
under d NK.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
Boy the old we put in porn or how to
have gay sex manuals in school. Then if you say, whoa, whoa, whoa,
this this change you've brought, I don't like it, You're
a censor. You're you're this is a censorship banned books.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
It doesn't get more innocent than a children's alphabet book.
You're the person asking for change. Wait a minute, No,
I'm not under l love Lion leopard print leggings, lippering
and Ladybug leopard print leggings and lippering for your just random,
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easy to understand l words, not ladder. Why why are
you doing this? There's a reason you're doing this.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Yeah, to indoctrinate the kids into radical gender theory in
queer theory.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah under Obviously.
Speaker 8 (06:53):
Under Q they had two words quilt and drag queen,
not queen drag queen.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
What the hell?
Speaker 8 (07:04):
And again the dedication in the Beginnings for all the
beautiful quirdos and the late mister pants dancing over the
rainbow bridge. Shut down all government schools right now. That's
the only answer. We'll have church schools, charitable schools, whatever,
add hoc schools put together by groups of parents. They
won't be perfect, but they'd be better than being indoctrinated into,
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you know, the hatred of your country and Western civilization,
which the education system of this country is so infected.
Good Lord, that book doesn't need to be in the
freaking school at all. But as Joe pointed out, the
problem is, this is like part of the curriculum they're
saying you can't even opt out of for your three
year old. I mean, they're making it that important. There's
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just no excuse for it being in the schools period,
any of these conversations. Leave that to the parents. This
is not the point of public school. Just reading, writing, math, science,
all right, and then shut up about everything else. Let
you know, deal with that in your own home and
however you going, you alread, You read that book to
your kid, fine, but the idea that that's mandatory for
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all kids is insane. Oh and the guy who did
that clapback video, he pointed out that, so there are
these various groups that give out awards to these books,
and they're all each other giving awards to each other,
so that you have an award winning children's book that.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
You put in your library and then you can make that.
Speaker 8 (08:31):
Lord, they're wanting to censor this award winning children's book
on reading. Yeah, the awards from the Indoctrinating your Kids
into Queer Theory Council.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8 (08:42):
Yeah, it's very clever, like we talked about earlier. I mean,
you gotta tip your cat to the to the cleverness
of you know, all the little tentacles that are into
this whole thing, but the idea that I mean, some
of these words are just hilarious.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Oh my god, I intersex flag.
Speaker 8 (09:01):
What what if I was gonna list a thousand.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Eyewords, it wouldn't have popped it into my head?
Speaker 8 (09:08):
B is for bear and barn and bisexual, right, yeah,
that is something. It looks like the Supreme Court agrees.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
With most of us on this. Uh. Yes, yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
It was a absolute blood bath oral arguments wise, I
was really enjoying argent listening to it.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I'll listen to the rest of it today. But the
only place where it got a.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Little sketchy was, interestingly enough, Katanji Brown Jackson, who was
pointing out that we have opt outs for this and
opt outs for that.
Speaker 8 (09:50):
Surely government does how have the power to teach certain
moral or cultural things are good in schools.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
That's part of the reason they exist.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
How you quoting a friend, how do you draw the
line between saying parents can copt out, can opt out
of the trans's fine stuff, but not out of MLK
was a good guy stuff. And I'm not saying that
line can't be drawn. But the answer really is, there
is no answer other than I know it when I
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see it, or we need to establish certain fundamental values
that are taught in schools and.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Not let the other stuff in. Because it's one of
the problems with having.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
Lawyers run the world, is this sort of thing. Yeah,
I'm perfectly fine with the public for your local school.
I know it when I see it. We'll pick We'll
do it on an individual basis. I'm not writing a
law that delineates it because I'd be impossible. And saying
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the Civil rights movement was a cause for good perfectly fine.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
All this crap in this.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Book no, well, right, and that is why school boards
or should exist.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Now. Are there woke lunatics on school boards.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
Yes, but we on the same side of America are
becoming more and more aware of how important it is
to be represented there. So yeah, school boards can decide
this stuff. The problem is in Montgomery County, Maryland, which
is the case that we're talking about. The school board
is just it is such a affluent, deep blue limousine
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liberal Look how enlightened I am.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Nightmare.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
And so you've got parents of various religious stripes saying, Hey,
our kids are being indoctrinated every single day from the
age of three on into a philosophy and sexual stuff
that I find repugnant and only rich.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
People can escape it.
Speaker 11 (11:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
Somebody, I don't forget who came up with the costs
five figures to send your kid to private school? Somebody texted,
it's six figures. What are you going to send your
kid to a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Of private school?
Speaker 8 (11:58):
If you're going to send up a private schoo the
whole their whole lives, it's easily six figures.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Obviously, Yeah, that was an annual figure they're talking about.
But but you know, you're either into it or you're not. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
Uh. The the advantage they have on that other side
is a well, what do you got it? What's wrong
with a puppy running through a pride parade.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And depicting that you just hate gays?
Speaker 8 (12:18):
No, but why do we have to Well, you'd what
would be wrong with a puppy running through a Fourth
of July parade.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
What's the difference? Eh No, I just don't want to.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
It's a celebration of our national identity and birth is
a country that's normal. What you're describing is is obvious
indoctrination of something that there's no need to have it
in schools. Why don't you have a puppy run through
a condom factory?
Speaker 11 (12:40):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Why didn't you have the puppy run through a swinger's party.
Look at all the loud. Don't knock over the lube
party or puppy. It's a freak off.
Speaker 8 (12:49):
Look there's ditty puppy because that would be perverse. The
hell shut it all down. Yes, I'll write a book.
Didty puppy and he runs through a freak off? Right,
there's the woman who's being compelled to have sex against
her will. Careful, puppy, did he might shoot you too, allegedly?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Oh please? You people are sick.
Speaker 8 (13:16):
I got nothing against people and their choices in life,
but stop grooming the children. Why and especially, as we
say every single time, and I'll end with this, it'd
be bad if they were doing well.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
At math and reading.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
But they're not oh my god, Okay, more on the way.
Speaker 12 (13:36):
From TSA officers now handing out reminder flyers starting May seventh,
you'll need a real ID if you're planning to fly
at DMB Officers nationwide long lines and long waits for
appointments to get a real ID, but nearly twenty percent
of current airline passengers don't have a real ID, four
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hundred thousand passengers a day. TSA is hoping not to
turn passengers away if you don't have a real ID
and you don't have a passport. That TSA says, plan
on an extra thirty minutes for extra.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
Screening, okay, Or just say I am an illegal alien
and they'll say, okay, get in that line over there,
you don't need an ID.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
That made me feel bad about myself.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Only twenty percent of current flyers don't have the real ID.
I assumed it was the vast majority of us, but no,
it's a small minority.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Okay. I was at the airport the other day.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
They were handing out that piece of paper to all
of us, uh, saying, don't forget your real ID. I
started the process yesterday and on the website, and we'll
see how this turns.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Out.
Speaker 8 (14:39):
I look forward to paying the stupid tax of waiting
in line for something that I knew was coming for
years and again, as you keep pointing out, Joe, yes,
this is to deal with the terrorists on nine to eleven,
two thousand and one exactly.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
So you're gonna be pulled out a line. No real
id on this one, Jim, Oh my goodness, come over here.
You do you know, oh, Sama bin Laden, are you
part of al Qaeda? You know you're gonna be asking
people and they're going to say, what's al Qaida? You know,
you're some nineteen year old that happened before I was born.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Why do I hate? Yeah? I know, I know. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
So A couple of food related stories worth passing along
mentioned this briefly earlier, but it's interesting. In recent years,
scientists have found that some additives like emulsifiers, dies, artificial sweeteners,
and there are a dozen other things, are linked to
health problems, but the studies have generally focused on the
impact of one substance at a time or a type
of additive, which makes sense if you understand the scientific method,
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but that's not the way people consume them, of course,
and ultra processed foods often contain a cocktail of additives,
and I do enjoy a cocktail.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
Now again, if I eat a bunch of skittles, I'm
gonna get red dye number ten and yellow dye number
fifteen and blue dye number one.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
On a mulsifier and a preservative. And many people eat
more than one ultra processed product in a day, so
they're getting multiple cocktails. So a new study conducted by
researchers from several French universities and research institutions found that
some common combinations of multifiers, colors, and sweeteners was associated
with high risk of type two diabetes beyond what could
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be explained by the individual substances alone. This suggests that
when some of these substances are eaten together, the negative
health impacts may be compounded. So they're looking at it
in a more real lifey way.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
Yeah, this seems fairly obvious. Surprise, we're just getting to
it now, but yeah, there you go.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
I get the scientific problem with having multiple variables in
one experiment, but I mean that's the way it's taken in.
So another quick food related story, farm robots or farmbots,
if you ever, are getting much closer to reality the
way they navigate between rosa crops, for instance, is changing
in a way that relies less on GPS and more
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on just they're looking at the strawberries and they can
see they're two inches from the strawberry. They're supposed to
be two inches from the strawberries, and so they can
do all the stuff, which reminds me of early on
in the illegal immigration discussion. People will say who's going
to pick the lettuce, and we would always say somebody
or nobody or a machine. Well, the machine is gaining
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on the outside and coming on.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Fast, Armstrong and getty.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
President Trump lashing out at Ukraine's president vladimir's Lensky on
social media, writing he can have peace, or he can
fight for another three years before losing the whole country.
The man with no cards to play should now finally
get it done.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Trump angered by.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Zelinsky's refusal to accept a US proposed peace deal that
would prohibit NATO membership for Ukraine and would include Ukraine
giving up land that Russia has seized since its invasion,
in addition to giving up CRIMEA.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
Is it fair to say we're at an inflection point
on this whole thing?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
This is just not a another little blip in this story.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
This seems like this could really be a big deal,
which is probably why the Wall Street Journal editorial board,
New York Post editorial board both out with pieces today,
both you know, Republican leading publications really pretty horrified at
Trump continuing to bad mouth and pressure Zelensky while giving
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putin a complete pass. We'll hear more from jd Vance
in a second on that. Well, let's hear a little
more from Trump as he explains himself.
Speaker 11 (18:33):
I will say that I think Russia is ready. And
a lot of people said Russia wanted to go for
the whole thing, and they've I think we have a
deal with Russia. We have to get a deal with Zelensky,
and I hope that Selensky. I thought it might be
easier to deal with Selensky. So far it's been harder.
But that's okay, It's all right. But I think we
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have a deal with both.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
One more and then we'll discuss if I may this
deal that you have with Russia, does it include recognizing
Russia's sovereignty over PREMEA.
Speaker 11 (19:11):
Well, everything is good. Look, I just want to see
the war end. I don't care if they're both happy.
They both signed an agreement. I have no favorites. I
don't want to have any favorites. I want to have
a deal done now.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
I don't think Trump is like a puppet of Putin.
I don't think Putin has something on him, you know,
on that stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
But I don't get it.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
I don't get the lack of willingness to call Putin
a really bad guy, the aggressor, a war criminal. Why
why does he not want to say Why does he
need to say bad things about Zelensky and refuses to
say bad things.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
About But what's the point. I think it's just a
question of leverage.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
He can say anything he wants to Zelensky and Zelynsk,
he still needs the US's help. He feels like he
cannot alienate Putin or else his scheme of and I
don't mean scheme in a negative way, his hope of
ending the war will be for naught. So he's got
to lure him into the bargaining.
Speaker 8 (20:18):
So we have an update on the story just since
this morning, because overnight Russia launched the deadliest attack on
Kiev since the war began. So how does Trump not
take that personally? So you're in the midst yesterday of
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doing all the things I just mentioned, saying, you know,
friendliest things about Putin, bad mouth and Zelenski, and.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
How does Putin reward him?
Speaker 8 (20:47):
And Trump saying you get to keep Crimea, you get
to create, keep all the land.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I'm saying Ukraine can't be part of NATO. I mean,
I'm handing you all this stuff. And how does.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
Putin reward him With the biggest attack on the capital
of Ukraine since the war started, and now it is
twelve and one hundreds dead? Are twelve dead, hundreds injured,
and they might find more dead people. So Trump wasn't
happy about that, and he did respond.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I've got it right in front of me.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
I'm not happy with the Russian strikes on Kiev. Not
necessary and very bad timing. Five thousand soldiers a week
are dying. Let's get the peace deal done. But even that,
I mean, I'm not happy with this bad timing and
not necessary is pretty tapid. Yes, yeah, And Putin's thinking, well, okay,
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as tapid as that is, I can continue this on
for weeks or months, grab more land, kill more soldiers,
weaken the Western leaning regime of Ukraine even more.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
Thereby cementing my control over it, and then in six
weeks time or six months or whatever, I say to Trump, Yeah, yeah,
you're right, we really need to come to a deal,
and I will will be welcomed at the bargaining table.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So why would I stop?
Speaker 8 (22:07):
Like Trump and his post yesterday said, if Zelenski wants
CRIMEO so bad, why didn't they fight for it eleven
years ago when it was handed over to Russia without
a shot being fired? When Russia overwhelming went in with
overwhelming force, got no support from Ukraine, had almost no
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support from anybody at the time. They just militarily talk
about not having the cards. They just couldn't stop the
bigger aggressor and their powerful army at the time. So
Trump said, if you want CRIMEA so bad, why didn't
you fight harder for it?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
What?
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Well, yeah, crime is complicated just for cultural reasons and
the history of it and the rest of it.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, it's it's ugly. I just I.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
What's your theory on this? What is your theory on this?
I'm completely just doing let's hear from JD. Vans and
then maybe we can have that conversation.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Well, I'm going to echo something Secretary Rubio said, which
is luck. We've issued a very explicit proposal to both
the Russians and the Ukrainians, and it's time for them
to either say yes or for the United States to
walk away from this process. We've engaged in an extraordinary
amount of diplomacy of on the ground work. We've really
tried to understand things from the perspective of both the
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Ukrainians and the Russians. What do Ukrainians care the most about?
What do the Russians care the most about? And I
think that we've put together a very fair proposal.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I don't see it. I don't see what. I don't
see what has no interest in it.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
I don't see what Putin has had to give or
what Ukraine gets.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Out of this.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
We've looked at both sides and their needs and a
fair proposal. Yeah, Russia gets everything they want and Ukraine
gets nothing that they want.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Is your proposal? Yeah, I don't know it.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
Hell you this, I don't I don't see a deal
taking shape. Honestly. Well, let's unless Trump were to exhort
enormous pressure, including military pressure, on Russia, which I just
don't see in the cards.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
Well, I know some of you are pretty hardcore. We
shouldn't be involved in this, and you agree with jd Vance. Obviously,
the Wall Street Journal does not agree with that standpoint.
Neither does the New York Post, and neither does Brit Hume,
the senior political an analyzer on Fox. Here he is yesterday.
Speaker 13 (24:35):
He keeps pounding Zielenski and saying it's harder to deal
with him than it is with Putin. Putin, so far
as I can tell, hasn't agreed to much of anything
except yes, he'd love to ann action CRIMEA, which was
part of the proposal that's before him. Now, that's no concession,
that's just that's just that, all that is is taking
a gain. Zielenski resists that because crime up until the
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Russian invaded it ten years or so ago, was part
of Ukraine. So I'm not exactly sure what the President
is talking about when he says that Zelensky has been
more difficult to deal with than Putin. You know, they
have been a series of ceased fire proposals. Putin either
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hasn't agreed to them or has immediately broken them. I'm
not sure you know what concessions Putin will ever be
willing to make. But he's surely hadn't many made very
many so far.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Oh yeah, yeah, I just I don't know how deep
we want to get into this. From Putin's perspective, Crimea
is like what would be a good analogy there really
isn't a good one for the United States.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
But it's like.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
The discussion about Greenland, except much much closer and much
much more important. It's his only access to open water
to the south there. And when it was part of
the Soviet Union, which was the Russian Empire. And interestingly enough,
Tom Cotton is starting to refer to the Soviet Union
as Communist Russia, which I think is smart because he's
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bringing younger voters along they understand, you know, I think
it's clever anyway. But when it was Communist Russia, they
had twenty four to seven access to their ports through Crimea,
obviously because it was part of the Soviet Union. And
then post Soviet Union, the Ukraine and its government was
still pretty closely tired tied to the former Communists and
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the oligarchs that took power in the rest of it,
and so Russia had twenty four to seven access to Crimea.
And then when the Ukrainian government started leaning strongly to
the West, they started to lose access to this critical
military asset, and that's why they invaded. So and I
say that not to argue therefore Putin's a good guy
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and in the right. No, just explained to me the
bargain that struck on Crimea that doesn't include something close
to total Russian control that Putin would agree to.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I don't see it. Well, that's my opinion.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
That's why we and NATO needed to arm Ukraine to
the point that they militarily defeat Russia and drive them
out of there, starting three years ago, actually starting ten
years ago.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
But obviously that did not happen.
Speaker 8 (27:32):
Wall Street Journal, Mister Trump's current offer looks more like
an ultimatum than grounds for a durable piece. Mister Trump
is angry that Ukraine won't accept the deal that legitimizes
Russia's occupation of Crimea, as if this is a minor
map revision. Mister Trump likes to say that Ukraine doesn't
have the cards, but it does have one. The President
won't be able to abandon Ukraine without paying a heavy
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political price.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I don't know if I agree with that.
Speaker 8 (27:58):
The Wall Street Journal editorial board I think Trump will
pay a political price for letting Russia get its way here.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
I'm not sure. No, I don't think it'll be heavy.
I'd be curious. I haven't seen polling on this recently.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
Well, the polling shows, and I saw it yesterday. The
polling is Americans are still overwhelmingly like two to one
in favor of Ukraine either winning or US supporting them
or however ask the question, but I just I don't
think it ranks as very high as an issue. Is
my thing, yes, even if it goes against the majority,
I just don't think most people care enough.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
Sure, every question like that is two tiered what would
you like to happen? Then the follow up question is
at what cost? How much would you be willing to
pay for it? And I think the answer is not
enough to get it done.
Speaker 8 (28:46):
The final word from the Wall Street Journal editorial board,
mister Trump can still salvage a deal in Ukraine, but
the current final settlement offer looks like it would set
up mister Putin to win the war. An hour or later,
the world's rogues will notice and mister Trump's had a
will have only begun, which is my belief. I mean,
if that isn't beyond a signal. It's like stating the president,
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she you can take Taiwan and we ain't gonna do
nothing about it.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Good luck U.
Speaker 8 (29:16):
Yes, correct, which again Trump and jad Vance might say
that was true before.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Russia invaded Ukraine, and it's true now.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
If China wants to take Taiwan, they're going to and
we ain't gonna stop them.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
The world ain't gonna be able to stop them. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
And I don't mean to come off as cynical or
having given up, although I have to some extent on
certainly Crimea. You can't always go in reverse in life.
Anybody with a little life experience can tell you that
when you've concluded your stupid affair, for instance, with some
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waitress and realize you adore your wife and it's the
single most moronic thing you will ever do in you life,
well that's fine, but you're already there.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
You've already done it.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
And I think, to a large extent, the hesitation, the
effeckless response to the Biden administration Russia's extremely strong interest
in Crimea. At this point, there's no hit and rewind,
there's no getting CRIMEA back. Russia owns it and will
until the day I die. How about a bigger picture?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
The world order? Is that just over? Is that cake baked?
Speaker 8 (30:26):
Is it just the US led world order is over
and it's coming apart?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
And that's just a fact?
Speaker 7 (30:34):
Yes, some ten percent or seventy percent, I don't know.
I think it's more like probably twenty five percent.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Man.
Speaker 8 (30:41):
I think once it starts, I think it goes from
ten to seventy in a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
I think because we're still the strongest military on earth,
although how strong like in the navy naval realm remains
to be seen with China's incredible build up. I think remember,
people react and countries react to that twenty percent going away.
We don't just continue doing the same things. I think
we rise up and say h oh as a nation.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Call it the uh oh doctrine? Right?
Speaker 8 (31:12):
Any thoughts on that text line four one five two kftc.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Arstaetti.
Speaker 14 (31:19):
We're in a waimo. It was going the wrong way.
We called customer support. It stopped us right here and
wouldn't let us out of the car, and we kept saying, hey, run,
we're on a highway please. Cars kept honking at us
and it would not move, it would not let us out,
no one from customer support, but actually move the Waymo.
(31:39):
So now we're walking on Mopack and our Waimo is
still there. This is insane waybo.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
Ha ha ha.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
So that's a good story right there.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
So Waimo is the driverless taxis, which I know a
number of people that have ridden in.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I can't believe. I haven't tried yet. They have.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
They make them in Phoenix, and so Phoenix is covered
in Waymo's and San Francisco I think is the only
other city in America. I think it's just Phoenix in
San Francisco right now that has Waymo's driving around. And
I've seen them took place in Austin. Oh Okay, But
I haven't ridden in one yet, and I've got to.
But a buddy.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
He's not a buddy of mine. He's my insurance agent.
He's a nice guy. I wish we were friends, but
I don't think he likes me anyway.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
He was sitting in my cyberbeast the other day because
I got rear ended, So you got to see your
insurance agent anyway, and we were talking about automated driving
and all that sort of stuff. And I was asking him,
you know, what are the insurance companies gonna do, because
the claim is from Tesla that in twenty six they're
going full Waimo. They're gonna go full automated driving where
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you don't have to pay attention autonomous driving like Waimo is,
so you know, you can read or sleep or do
whatever you want. And I said, are the insurance company
is going to allow that? And he said, well, first
it'll be the state allowing it legally. And remember Weimo
came into like San Francisco. Originally they had the rights
to drive them around. Then the city shut them down
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for a while where a couple of wrecks that I
don't know how they earned their way back, but they
drive all over the place and the city allowed it.
So it's possible the state of California allows. Of course,
wouldn't that be something if they don't allow Tesla autonomous
vehicles because they hate elon right a political thing. So
here's what happened to these people.
Speaker 7 (33:29):
They came to a merge where two lanes became one
and the car just stopped. This is on a major
highway and as the lady described, the cars were honking
and they were stuck for over five minutes, and they
just requested to be let out of the car to
walk the rest of the way. They were on the
phone with a Waymo person, and the representative kept insisting
I need a specific address before unlocking the vehicle, and
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the group told them over and over again.
Speaker 8 (33:54):
We're at the merge lane. There's nothing an address for
a merged lane. How do you write a letter to
a mergelne one two three where two lanes meets boulevard anyway, So.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
The car suddenly unlocked.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
As they walked away, the car remained in the same
spot at a further distance.
Speaker 8 (34:12):
The car suddenly roared back to life and drove past them.
Now it wants to go, she said on her video.
The uh go in the wrong directions one thing, you know,
you don't want to be late to where over your
head or something. But the on a freeway stopped and
I can't get out, I would be seriously one worried
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and two angry with the product. I'm on a freeway
where I could get hit and I can't get out
of this damn thing.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
That's nuts.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
Yeah, way Moss spokesman said passengers can always pause the
ride and exit the vehicle by pulling the handle.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Twice during the ride.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
The passengers in the video pressed the pullover button in
the vehicle pulled to the side of a thirty mile
per hour road with a sidewalk so quick, bitch, could.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Be operator error, That's not impossible. Yeah, I suppose. I
don't know. She sounds pretty sincere.
Speaker 8 (35:05):
Do you think this, well, they already have them, you know,
way most Do you think this is gonna happen like
in a couple of years where there's gonna be lots
of cars driving around you can sleep in and drink
or whatever.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
I don't know what the laws are going to be,
uh that, whether legally you can or just effectively you
can wink nod.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah, probably Wow. We do another hour.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
If you don't get it, get the podcast Armstrong and
Getty on demand. Otherwise I'm Strong and Getty.
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Debt Tatie and he Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
This is not just about books. This is about exposure
to people of different sexual orientations. And the objection, the
sincerely held objection that children shouldn't be exposed to this.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Again, our clients are not raising those and we know
that these kinds of objections aren't happening here.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
The board is imposing indoctrination on children.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
I thought Baxter did very well. I thought the Trump
administration Harris, the assistance Solicitor General, also did extraordinarily well.
And Baxter kept on shutting down the argument. You know,
Jackson said, do you you don't have any affidavits or declarations.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
He said, yes, I do.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
And when he said when they said, well, you just
don't want people to have access to this, and he
said that's not true. He said, we have no objection
to these books being available. This is very different from that.
And then just as so am I er try to
portray them as you just don't want people to see
the image of a of a same sex couple. There's
no real lesson here, and her own colleagues jumped in
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and said, there is a lesson here.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
There's a definite message being sent here.
Speaker 7 (01:26):
Which is, don't pay attention to so of my rror,
don't even bother. She's she's talking abouttionate justice.
Speaker 8 (01:33):
We're talking about the We're talking about the book Pride
Puppy and what you're going to hear more about in
a second, and other books like that that are in
school libraries.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
But that well, sorry I got to jump in.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
That's specifically what the lawyers were saying is not the case.
It's that this is being taught as a curriculum aggressively.
There's no you find the book on the shelf, check
it out because you're interested. It's being given affirmatively to
kids from ages three on and todd is part of
a whole curriculum.
Speaker 8 (02:04):
Right, good point. I don't think they should even be
in the library. I'm sorry why I would agree?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Just why why is it there?
Speaker 8 (02:12):
Oh look, here's a dude explaining why Pride Puppy is
a perfectly fine book and it's just hate.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
This is Pride Puppy by Robin Stephenson and Julian maclachlin.
Speaker 9 (02:22):
It doesn't get more innocent than a children's alphabet.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Book see for Car or Old Chevrolet.
Speaker 9 (02:27):
But this one about a dog that breaks loose from
its family while at a Pride parade. He is now
at the center of a censorship case going before the
US Supreme Court.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
It was pitched as a parental rights religious freedom case,
when what I think it's doing is hiding hiding. It's
hate really disguised as parental rights. And what people are
taking offense at, I believe is the fact that Pride
isn't the title, and there are Pride flags in the book.
Speaker 8 (02:56):
That absolutely not a censorship case. That is unlank and believable.
Play that again, just because that thing at the beginning,
I like.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Play that again.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
This is Pride Puppy by Robin Stevenson and Jolie McLachlin.
Speaker 9 (03:07):
It doesn't get more innocent than a children's alphabet book.
Speaker 10 (03:11):
Right.
Speaker 11 (03:12):
That.
Speaker 8 (03:13):
I love that the news lady coming in. It doesn't
get more innocent than a children's alphabet book. How in
the world do you present that story like that and
pretend you're a journalist. It's a censorship Supreme Court mascar
rating is a parent's right case, rights case, as we
tell three year olds about drag queens and and and
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and they can be a little girl. And we've had
into every lesson in school. Yeah, yeah, censorship. Here's a
little bit of a response video to that. And then
I'll fill in some gaps.
Speaker 10 (03:47):
Today we're going to have a reading of Pride Puppy
for all the beautiful queerdos and the late mister pants
dancing over the rainbow bridge.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Oh, that's it. I don't know what querdos are.
Speaker 8 (04:06):
I assume that's another one of her books, because she's
some sort of a very popular author of this sort
of thing. Quirdo's like, they call us weird because we like,
you know, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
So where's weird? Yes?
Speaker 8 (04:19):
And then uh, and then he goes through the Pride
Puppy book and the the the basic story of the
book is it's a a puppy that gets loose from
its owners and runs through a pride parade.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And then you see all these and I don't know.
Speaker 8 (04:31):
Why, the barking there is the Pride puppy there, and
then they're trying to catch the dog, and then you
see all these different colorful characters in the parade and
all the rainbow flags and the drag queens are trying
to chase the dog. And it's just an innocent book
about teaching, you know, phonics to kids. And then in
the back of the book they have they go letter
by letter like you do in a lot of these
sorts of books trying to teach reading through the alphabet,
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for instance, like I as in infant insulin, inflatable tube,
sex flag, and insect.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
What of all the eye.
Speaker 8 (05:06):
Words that like you come in contact normally in your life,
that you could.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
Say blue or ice cream inter sex flag.
Speaker 8 (05:14):
Instead of igloo or ice cream, you go with intersex flag.
I mean, it's transparently hilarious what you're doing to get
us through. It's this is for as young as three
year old, is Justice Gorsuch kept pointing out, it's just to.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Get your five year older or even your fifteen year.
Speaker 8 (05:33):
Old to say what's an intersex flag and get into
the whole conversation.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
There's other examples under K.
Speaker 8 (05:41):
Kites, kiss drag king, knapsack keys, not king drag king.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Under k Well, that way they got to put it
under d NK.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
Boy the old we put in porn or how to
have gay sex manuals in school. Then if you say, whoa, whoa, whoa,
this this change you've brought, I don't like it, You're
a censor. You're you're this is a censorship banned books.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
It doesn't get more innocent than a children's alphabet book.
You're the person asking for change. Wait a minute, No,
I'm not under l love Lion leopard print leggings, lippering
and Ladybug leopard print leggings and lippering for your just random,
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easy to understand l words, not ladder. Why why are
you doing this? There's a reason you're doing this.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Yeah, to indoctrinate the kids into radical gender theory in
queer theory.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah under Obviously.
Speaker 8 (06:53):
Under Q they had two words quilt and drag queen,
not queen drag queen.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
What the hell?
Speaker 8 (07:04):
And again the dedication in the Beginnings for all the
beautiful quirdos and the late mister pants dancing over the
rainbow bridge. Shut down all government schools right now. That's
the only answer. We'll have church schools, charitable schools, whatever,
add hoc schools put together by groups of parents. They
won't be perfect, but they'd be better than being indoctrinated into,
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you know, the hatred of your country and Western civilization,
which the education system of this country is so infected.
Good Lord, that book doesn't need to be in the
freaking school at all. But as Joe pointed out, the
problem is, this is like part of the curriculum they're
saying you can't even opt out of for your three
year old. I mean, they're making it that important. There's
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just no excuse for it being in the schools period,
any of these conversations. Leave that to the parents. This
is not the point of public school. Just reading, writing, math, science,
all right, and then shut up about everything else. Let
you know, deal with that in your own home and
however you going, you alread, You read that book to
your kid, fine, but the idea that that's mandatory for
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all kids is insane. Oh and the guy who did
that clapback video, he pointed out that, so there are
these various groups that give out awards to these books,
and they're all each other giving awards to each other,
so that you have an award winning children's book that.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
You put in your library and then you can make that.
Speaker 8 (08:31):
Lord, they're wanting to censor this award winning children's book
on reading. Yeah, the awards from the Indoctrinating your Kids
into Queer Theory Council.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8 (08:42):
Yeah, it's very clever, like we talked about earlier. I mean,
you gotta tip your cat to the to the cleverness
of you know, all the little tentacles that are into
this whole thing, but the idea that I mean, some
of these words are just hilarious.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Oh my god, I intersex flag.
Speaker 8 (09:01):
What what if I was gonna list a thousand.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Eyewords, it wouldn't have popped it into my head?
Speaker 8 (09:08):
B is for bear and barn and bisexual, right, yeah,
that is something. It looks like the Supreme Court agrees.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
With most of us on this. Uh. Yes, yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
It was a absolute blood bath oral arguments wise, I
was really enjoying argent listening to it.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I'll listen to the rest of it today. But the
only place where it got a.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Little sketchy was, interestingly enough, Katanji Brown Jackson, who was
pointing out that we have opt outs for this and
opt outs for that.
Speaker 8 (09:50):
Surely government does how have the power to teach certain
moral or cultural things are good in schools.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
That's part of the reason they exist.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
How you quoting a friend, how do you draw the
line between saying parents can copt out, can opt out
of the trans's fine stuff, but not out of MLK
was a good guy stuff. And I'm not saying that
line can't be drawn. But the answer really is, there
is no answer other than I know it when I
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see it, or we need to establish certain fundamental values
that are taught in schools and.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Not let the other stuff in. Because it's one of
the problems with having.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
Lawyers run the world, is this sort of thing. Yeah,
I'm perfectly fine with the public for your local school.
I know it when I see it. We'll pick We'll
do it on an individual basis. I'm not writing a
law that delineates it because I'd be impossible. And saying
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the Civil rights movement was a cause for good perfectly fine.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
All this crap in this.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Book no, well, right, and that is why school boards
or should exist.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Now. Are there woke lunatics on school boards.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
Yes, but we on the same side of America are
becoming more and more aware of how important it is
to be represented there. So yeah, school boards can decide
this stuff. The problem is in Montgomery County, Maryland, which
is the case that we're talking about. The school board
is just it is such a affluent, deep blue limousine
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liberal Look how enlightened I am.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Nightmare.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
And so you've got parents of various religious stripes saying, Hey,
our kids are being indoctrinated every single day from the
age of three on into a philosophy and sexual stuff
that I find repugnant and only rich.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
People can escape it.
Speaker 11 (11:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
Somebody, I don't forget who came up with the costs
five figures to send your kid to private school? Somebody texted,
it's six figures. What are you going to send your
kid to a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Of private school?
Speaker 8 (11:58):
If you're going to send up a private schoo the
whole their whole lives, it's easily six figures.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Obviously, Yeah, that was an annual figure they're talking about.
But but you know, you're either into it or you're not. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
Uh. The the advantage they have on that other side
is a well, what do you got it? What's wrong
with a puppy running through a pride parade.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And depicting that you just hate gays?
Speaker 8 (12:18):
No, but why do we have to Well, you'd what
would be wrong with a puppy running through a Fourth
of July parade.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
What's the difference? Eh No, I just don't want to.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
It's a celebration of our national identity and birth is
a country that's normal. What you're describing is is obvious
indoctrination of something that there's no need to have it
in schools. Why don't you have a puppy run through
a condom factory?
Speaker 11 (12:40):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Why didn't you have the puppy run through a swinger's party.
Look at all the loud. Don't knock over the lube
party or puppy. It's a freak off.
Speaker 8 (12:49):
Look there's ditty puppy because that would be perverse. The
hell shut it all down. Yes, I'll write a book.
Didty puppy and he runs through a freak off? Right,
there's the woman who's being compelled to have sex against
her will. Careful, puppy, did he might shoot you too, allegedly?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Oh please? You people are sick.
Speaker 8 (13:16):
I got nothing against people and their choices in life,
but stop grooming the children. Why and especially, as we
say every single time, and I'll end with this, it'd
be bad if they were doing well.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
At math and reading.
Speaker 8 (13:31):
But they're not oh my god, Okay, more on the way.
Speaker 12 (13:36):
From TSA officers now handing out reminder flyers starting May seventh,
you'll need a real ID if you're planning to fly
at DMB Officers nationwide long lines and long waits for
appointments to get a real ID, but nearly twenty percent
of current airline passengers don't have a real ID, four
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hundred thousand passengers a day. TSA is hoping not to
turn passengers away if you don't have a real ID
and you don't have a passport. That TSA says, plan
on an extra thirty minutes for extra.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
Screening, okay, Or just say I am an illegal alien
and they'll say, okay, get in that line over there,
you don't need an ID.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
That made me feel bad about myself.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Only twenty percent of current flyers don't have the real ID.
I assumed it was the vast majority of us, but no,
it's a small minority.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Okay. I was at the airport the other day.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
They were handing out that piece of paper to all
of us, uh, saying, don't forget your real ID. I
started the process yesterday and on the website, and we'll
see how this turns.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Out.
Speaker 8 (14:39):
I look forward to paying the stupid tax of waiting
in line for something that I knew was coming for
years and again, as you keep pointing out, Joe, yes,
this is to deal with the terrorists on nine to eleven,
two thousand and one exactly.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
So you're gonna be pulled out a line. No real
id on this one, Jim, Oh my goodness, come over here.
You do you know, oh, Sama bin Laden, are you
part of al Qaeda? You know you're gonna be asking
people and they're going to say, what's al Qaida? You know,
you're some nineteen year old that happened before I was born.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Why do I hate? Yeah? I know, I know. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
So A couple of food related stories worth passing along
mentioned this briefly earlier, but it's interesting. In recent years,
scientists have found that some additives like emulsifiers, dies, artificial sweeteners,
and there are a dozen other things, are linked to
health problems, but the studies have generally focused on the
impact of one substance at a time or a type
of additive, which makes sense if you understand the scientific method,
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but that's not the way people consume them, of course,
and ultra processed foods often contain a cocktail of additives,
and I do enjoy a cocktail.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
Now again, if I eat a bunch of skittles, I'm
gonna get red dye number ten and yellow dye number
fifteen and blue dye number one.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
On a mulsifier and a preservative. And many people eat
more than one ultra processed product in a day, so
they're getting multiple cocktails. So a new study conducted by
researchers from several French universities and research institutions found that
some common combinations of multifiers, colors, and sweeteners was associated
with high risk of type two diabetes beyond what could
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be explained by the individual substances alone. This suggests that
when some of these substances are eaten together, the negative
health impacts may be compounded. So they're looking at it
in a more real lifey way.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
Yeah, this seems fairly obvious. Surprise, we're just getting to
it now, but yeah, there you go.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
I get the scientific problem with having multiple variables in
one experiment, but I mean that's the way it's taken in.
So another quick food related story, farm robots or farmbots,
if you ever, are getting much closer to reality the
way they navigate between rosa crops, for instance, is changing
in a way that relies less on GPS and more
(16:56):
on just they're looking at the strawberries and they can
see they're two inches from the strawberry. They're supposed to
be two inches from the strawberries, and so they can
do all the stuff, which reminds me of early on
in the illegal immigration discussion. People will say who's going
to pick the lettuce, and we would always say somebody
or nobody or a machine. Well, the machine is gaining
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on the outside and coming on.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Fast, Armstrong and getty.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
President Trump lashing out at Ukraine's president vladimir's Lensky on
social media, writing he can have peace, or he can
fight for another three years before losing the whole country.
The man with no cards to play should now finally
get it done.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Trump angered by.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Zelinsky's refusal to accept a US proposed peace deal that
would prohibit NATO membership for Ukraine and would include Ukraine
giving up land that Russia has seized since its invasion,
in addition to giving up CRIMEA.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
Is it fair to say we're at an inflection point
on this whole thing?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
This is just not a another little blip in this story.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
This seems like this could really be a big deal,
which is probably why the Wall Street Journal editorial board,
New York Post editorial board both out with pieces today,
both you know, Republican leading publications really pretty horrified at
Trump continuing to bad mouth and pressure Zelensky while giving
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putin a complete pass. We'll hear more from jd Vance
in a second on that. Well, let's hear a little
more from Trump as he explains himself.
Speaker 11 (18:33):
I will say that I think Russia is ready. And
a lot of people said Russia wanted to go for
the whole thing, and they've I think we have a
deal with Russia. We have to get a deal with Zelensky,
and I hope that Selensky. I thought it might be
easier to deal with Selensky. So far it's been harder.
But that's okay, It's all right. But I think we
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have a deal with both.
Speaker 8 (19:01):
One more and then we'll discuss if I may this
deal that you have with Russia, does it include recognizing
Russia's sovereignty over PREMEA.
Speaker 11 (19:11):
Well, everything is good. Look, I just want to see
the war end. I don't care if they're both happy.
They both signed an agreement. I have no favorites. I
don't want to have any favorites. I want to have
a deal done now.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
I don't think Trump is like a puppet of Putin.
I don't think Putin has something on him, you know,
on that stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
But I don't get it.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
I don't get the lack of willingness to call Putin
a really bad guy, the aggressor, a war criminal. Why
why does he not want to say Why does he
need to say bad things about Zelensky and refuses to
say bad things.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
About But what's the point. I think it's just a
question of leverage.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
He can say anything he wants to Zelensky and Zelynsk,
he still needs the US's help. He feels like he
cannot alienate Putin or else his scheme of and I
don't mean scheme in a negative way, his hope of
ending the war will be for naught. So he's got
to lure him into the bargaining.
Speaker 8 (20:18):
So we have an update on the story just since
this morning, because overnight Russia launched the deadliest attack on
Kiev since the war began. So how does Trump not
take that personally? So you're in the midst yesterday of
(20:38):
doing all the things I just mentioned, saying, you know,
friendliest things about Putin, bad mouth and Zelenski, and.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
How does Putin reward him?
Speaker 8 (20:47):
And Trump saying you get to keep Crimea, you get
to create, keep all the land.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I'm saying Ukraine can't be part of NATO. I mean,
I'm handing you all this stuff. And how does.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
Putin reward him With the biggest attack on the capital
of Ukraine since the war started, and now it is
twelve and one hundreds dead? Are twelve dead, hundreds injured,
and they might find more dead people. So Trump wasn't
happy about that, and he did respond.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I've got it right in front of me.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
I'm not happy with the Russian strikes on Kiev. Not
necessary and very bad timing. Five thousand soldiers a week
are dying. Let's get the peace deal done. But even that,
I mean, I'm not happy with this bad timing and
not necessary is pretty tapid. Yes, yeah, And Putin's thinking, well, okay,
(21:40):
as tapid as that is, I can continue this on
for weeks or months, grab more land, kill more soldiers,
weaken the Western leaning regime of Ukraine even more.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
Thereby cementing my control over it, and then in six
weeks time or six months or whatever, I say to Trump, Yeah, yeah,
you're right, we really need to come to a deal,
and I will will be welcomed at the bargaining table.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So why would I stop?
Speaker 8 (22:07):
Like Trump and his post yesterday said, if Zelenski wants
CRIMEO so bad, why didn't they fight for it eleven
years ago when it was handed over to Russia without
a shot being fired? When Russia overwhelming went in with
overwhelming force, got no support from Ukraine, had almost no
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support from anybody at the time. They just militarily talk
about not having the cards. They just couldn't stop the
bigger aggressor and their powerful army at the time. So
Trump said, if you want CRIMEA so bad, why didn't
you fight harder for it?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
What?
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Well, yeah, crime is complicated just for cultural reasons and
the history of it and the rest of it.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, it's it's ugly. I just I.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
What's your theory on this? What is your theory on this?
I'm completely just doing let's hear from JD. Vans and
then maybe we can have that conversation.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Well, I'm going to echo something Secretary Rubio said, which
is luck. We've issued a very explicit proposal to both
the Russians and the Ukrainians, and it's time for them
to either say yes or for the United States to
walk away from this process. We've engaged in an extraordinary
amount of diplomacy of on the ground work. We've really
tried to understand things from the perspective of both the
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Ukrainians and the Russians. What do Ukrainians care the most about?
What do the Russians care the most about? And I
think that we've put together a very fair proposal.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I don't see it. I don't see what. I don't
see what has no interest in it.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
I don't see what Putin has had to give or
what Ukraine gets.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Out of this.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
We've looked at both sides and their needs and a
fair proposal. Yeah, Russia gets everything they want and Ukraine
gets nothing that they want.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Is your proposal? Yeah, I don't know it.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
Hell you this, I don't I don't see a deal
taking shape. Honestly. Well, let's unless Trump were to exhort
enormous pressure, including military pressure, on Russia, which I just
don't see in the cards.
Speaker 8 (24:15):
Well, I know some of you are pretty hardcore. We
shouldn't be involved in this, and you agree with jd Vance. Obviously,
the Wall Street Journal does not agree with that standpoint.
Neither does the New York Post, and neither does Brit Hume,
the senior political an analyzer on Fox. Here he is yesterday.
Speaker 13 (24:35):
He keeps pounding Zielenski and saying it's harder to deal
with him than it is with Putin. Putin, so far
as I can tell, hasn't agreed to much of anything
except yes, he'd love to ann action CRIMEA, which was
part of the proposal that's before him. Now, that's no concession,
that's just that's just that, all that is is taking
a gain. Zielenski resists that because crime up until the
(25:01):
Russian invaded it ten years or so ago, was part
of Ukraine. So I'm not exactly sure what the President
is talking about when he says that Zelensky has been
more difficult to deal with than Putin. You know, they
have been a series of ceased fire proposals. Putin either
(25:22):
hasn't agreed to them or has immediately broken them. I'm
not sure you know what concessions Putin will ever be
willing to make. But he's surely hadn't many made very
many so far.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
Oh yeah, yeah, I just I don't know how deep
we want to get into this. From Putin's perspective, Crimea
is like what would be a good analogy there really
isn't a good one for the United States.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
But it's like.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
The discussion about Greenland, except much much closer and much
much more important. It's his only access to open water
to the south there. And when it was part of
the Soviet Union, which was the Russian Empire. And interestingly enough,
Tom Cotton is starting to refer to the Soviet Union
as Communist Russia, which I think is smart because he's
(26:17):
bringing younger voters along they understand, you know, I think
it's clever anyway. But when it was Communist Russia, they
had twenty four to seven access to their ports through Crimea,
obviously because it was part of the Soviet Union. And
then post Soviet Union, the Ukraine and its government was
still pretty closely tired tied to the former Communists and
(26:40):
the oligarchs that took power in the rest of it,
and so Russia had twenty four to seven access to Crimea.
And then when the Ukrainian government started leaning strongly to
the West, they started to lose access to this critical
military asset, and that's why they invaded. So and I
say that not to argue therefore Putin's a good guy
(27:01):
and in the right. No, just explained to me the
bargain that struck on Crimea that doesn't include something close
to total Russian control that Putin would agree to.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I don't see it. Well, that's my opinion.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
That's why we and NATO needed to arm Ukraine to
the point that they militarily defeat Russia and drive them
out of there, starting three years ago, actually starting ten
years ago.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
But obviously that did not happen.
Speaker 8 (27:32):
Wall Street Journal, Mister Trump's current offer looks more like
an ultimatum than grounds for a durable piece. Mister Trump
is angry that Ukraine won't accept the deal that legitimizes
Russia's occupation of Crimea, as if this is a minor
map revision. Mister Trump likes to say that Ukraine doesn't
have the cards, but it does have one. The President
won't be able to abandon Ukraine without paying a heavy
(27:54):
political price.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I don't know if I agree with that.
Speaker 8 (27:58):
The Wall Street Journal editorial board I think Trump will
pay a political price for letting Russia get its way here.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
I'm not sure. No, I don't think it'll be heavy.
I'd be curious. I haven't seen polling on this recently.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
Well, the polling shows, and I saw it yesterday. The
polling is Americans are still overwhelmingly like two to one
in favor of Ukraine either winning or US supporting them
or however ask the question, but I just I don't
think it ranks as very high as an issue. Is
my thing, yes, even if it goes against the majority,
I just don't think most people care enough.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
Sure, every question like that is two tiered what would
you like to happen? Then the follow up question is
at what cost? How much would you be willing to
pay for it? And I think the answer is not
enough to get it done.
Speaker 8 (28:46):
The final word from the Wall Street Journal editorial board,
mister Trump can still salvage a deal in Ukraine, but
the current final settlement offer looks like it would set
up mister Putin to win the war. An hour or later,
the world's rogues will notice and mister Trump's had a
will have only begun, which is my belief. I mean,
if that isn't beyond a signal. It's like stating the president,
(29:08):
she you can take Taiwan and we ain't gonna do
nothing about it.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Good luck U.
Speaker 8 (29:16):
Yes, correct, which again Trump and jad Vance might say
that was true before.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Russia invaded Ukraine, and it's true now.
Speaker 8 (29:26):
If China wants to take Taiwan, they're going to and
we ain't gonna stop them.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
The world ain't gonna be able to stop them. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
And I don't mean to come off as cynical or
having given up, although I have to some extent on
certainly Crimea. You can't always go in reverse in life.
Anybody with a little life experience can tell you that
when you've concluded your stupid affair, for instance, with some
(29:53):
waitress and realize you adore your wife and it's the
single most moronic thing you will ever do in you life,
well that's fine, but you're already there.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
You've already done it.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
And I think, to a large extent, the hesitation, the
effeckless response to the Biden administration Russia's extremely strong interest
in Crimea. At this point, there's no hit and rewind,
there's no getting CRIMEA back. Russia owns it and will
until the day I die. How about a bigger picture?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
The world order? Is that just over? Is that cake baked?
Speaker 8 (30:26):
Is it just the US led world order is over
and it's coming apart?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
And that's just a fact?
Speaker 7 (30:34):
Yes, some ten percent or seventy percent, I don't know.
I think it's more like probably twenty five percent.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Man.
Speaker 8 (30:41):
I think once it starts, I think it goes from
ten to seventy in a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
I think because we're still the strongest military on earth,
although how strong like in the navy naval realm remains
to be seen with China's incredible build up. I think remember,
people react and countries react to that twenty percent going away.
We don't just continue doing the same things. I think
we rise up and say h oh as a nation.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Call it the uh oh doctrine? Right?
Speaker 8 (31:12):
Any thoughts on that text line four one five two kftc.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Arstaetti.
Speaker 14 (31:19):
We're in a waimo. It was going the wrong way.
We called customer support. It stopped us right here and
wouldn't let us out of the car, and we kept saying, hey, run,
we're on a highway please. Cars kept honking at us
and it would not move, it would not let us out,
no one from customer support, but actually move the Waymo.
(31:39):
So now we're walking on Mopack and our Waimo is
still there. This is insane waybo.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
Ha ha ha.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
So that's a good story right there.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
So Waimo is the driverless taxis, which I know a
number of people that have ridden in.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
I can't believe. I haven't tried yet. They have.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
They make them in Phoenix, and so Phoenix is covered
in Waymo's and San Francisco I think is the only
other city in America. I think it's just Phoenix in
San Francisco right now that has Waymo's driving around. And
I've seen them took place in Austin. Oh Okay, But
I haven't ridden in one yet, and I've got to.
But a buddy.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
He's not a buddy of mine. He's my insurance agent.
He's a nice guy. I wish we were friends, but
I don't think he likes me anyway.
Speaker 8 (32:26):
He was sitting in my cyberbeast the other day because
I got rear ended, So you got to see your
insurance agent anyway, and we were talking about automated driving
and all that sort of stuff. And I was asking him,
you know, what are the insurance companies gonna do, because
the claim is from Tesla that in twenty six they're
going full Waimo. They're gonna go full automated driving where
(32:48):
you don't have to pay attention autonomous driving like Waimo is,
so you know, you can read or sleep or do
whatever you want. And I said, are the insurance company
is going to allow that? And he said, well, first
it'll be the state allowing it legally. And remember Weimo
came into like San Francisco. Originally they had the rights
to drive them around. Then the city shut them down
(33:09):
for a while where a couple of wrecks that I
don't know how they earned their way back, but they
drive all over the place and the city allowed it.
So it's possible the state of California allows. Of course,
wouldn't that be something if they don't allow Tesla autonomous
vehicles because they hate elon right a political thing. So
here's what happened to these people.
Speaker 7 (33:29):
They came to a merge where two lanes became one
and the car just stopped. This is on a major
highway and as the lady described, the cars were honking
and they were stuck for over five minutes, and they
just requested to be let out of the car to
walk the rest of the way. They were on the
phone with a Waymo person, and the representative kept insisting
I need a specific address before unlocking the vehicle, and
(33:52):
the group told them over and over again.
Speaker 8 (33:54):
We're at the merge lane. There's nothing an address for
a merged lane. How do you write a letter to
a mergelne one two three where two lanes meets boulevard anyway, So.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
The car suddenly unlocked.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
As they walked away, the car remained in the same
spot at a further distance.
Speaker 8 (34:12):
The car suddenly roared back to life and drove past them.
Now it wants to go, she said on her video.
The uh go in the wrong directions one thing, you know,
you don't want to be late to where over your
head or something. But the on a freeway stopped and
I can't get out, I would be seriously one worried
(34:33):
and two angry with the product. I'm on a freeway
where I could get hit and I can't get out
of this damn thing.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
That's nuts.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
Yeah, way Moss spokesman said passengers can always pause the
ride and exit the vehicle by pulling the handle.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Twice during the ride.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
The passengers in the video pressed the pullover button in
the vehicle pulled to the side of a thirty mile
per hour road with a sidewalk so quick, bitch, could.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Be operator error, That's not impossible. Yeah, I suppose. I
don't know. She sounds pretty sincere.
Speaker 8 (35:05):
Do you think this, well, they already have them, you know,
way most Do you think this is gonna happen like
in a couple of years where there's gonna be lots
of cars driving around you can sleep in and drink
or whatever.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
I don't know what the laws are going to be,
uh that, whether legally you can or just effectively you
can wink nod.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah, probably Wow. We do another hour.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
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