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July 24, 2025 36 mins

Hour 3 of A&G features...

  • A new edition of Gender Bending Madness--featuring Rahm Emanuel...
  • How many steps you need to walk for optimal fitness...
  • Tulsi Gabbard's major announcement about the Russian Election Interference Hoax...
  • Joe's thorough explanation of the aforementioned topic.  

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Show, Katty.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Jettie and he Armstrong and Jetty. There's still
a lot.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Of talk about how awful it was that Trump forced
CBS to fire Colbert. Have some stats around that that
are pretty illuminating. We'll get to a little bit later. Also,
I opened the show saying, I've lost the ability to
grasp newsflow. I just I don't understand the way the

(00:44):
world works anymore. I would have thought that if the
director of National Intelligence of one presidential administration comes out
and says a previous president committed all kinds of crimes
and needs to go to jail, that would be the
biggest story in the country. But it's not being covered
really anywhere except for Fox Right. And she implicated his

(01:05):
DNI at the same time, Yeah, which is interesting. Well,
this would be the biggest scandal in US history easily,
I think so. Yeah, and it didn't really make the news.
So there you go. But more on that later. And
these are odd times.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
First though, before we get to that, it's a gender
bending madness.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Update night, I kept hearing about this thing called by
the loco We're a Brave world.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
It's dem On dem violence edition of the gender Bending
Madness Update. It's more a preview of the violence to come,
and we'll get to that in a moment, But first,
a couple of stories for you. The Trump Department of
Justice subpoenaed more than twenty doctors in medical clinics nationwide
that performed transgender medical procedures on children quote from Pambondi.

(02:03):
Medical professionals and organizations that mutilated children in the service
of a warped ideology will be held accountable by this
Department of Justice as well. They should, given the fact
that multiple reports now in Britain, in the Netherlands, in
the United States say these medical procedures are unsupportable by

(02:23):
the very arguments that the people who perpetrate them say
support them. It's medical malpractice, cruelty to children.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
It's terrible. How do you feel about the word mutilate?
Do you think that's too far or appropriate?

Speaker 5 (02:36):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:36):
I think it's perfectly appropriate.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Even the hormones and the the puberty suppressors cause permanent
physical changes to these kids.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I don't know, mutilate is a perfectly reasonable I don't
know why you'd call it anything else.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
The DOJ's action comes three months after BONDI warned clinics
and hospitals that any suspected cases of female genital mutilation
performed on individuals under eighteen would be investing gated. No
charges have been filed as yet, but Trump and his
administration are on the case, and I am.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Grateful for it.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Meanwhile, in cal Unicornia, America's most prominent Marxist pervo legislator,
Senator State Senator Scott Wiener of San Francisco in California,
has authored a bill seeking to protect the various the
very folks rather who perform these mutilations and chemical castrations. Quote,

(03:31):
California must strongly reject Trump's disgusting efforts to distract from
his own incompetent failures by demonizing our transgender neighbors. Oh
that's what he's doing, Yeah, trying to prevent momentarily confused
teenage girls from being mutilated, have their healthy breasts removed
because of momentary confusion. Yeah, that's demonizing our transgender neighbors,

(03:52):
Scott usiko. He goes on to say the President is
attempting to eliminate trans people's very existence in the eyes
of the law, and he's made clear he's willing to
violate laws and norms to target them.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
What norms would those be, Scott?

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Those which were instituted through vicious bullying like a couple
of years ago, and everybody was too frightened and confused
to resist.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Apparently a slight tangent. But I was listened to a
podcast yesterday about the psychology around the either the Omnikods
or the perma cause, depending on how you look at it.
On how like a guy got Scott Wiener, he fought
so long, so hard for gay marriage, and they won,
and the vast majority of people in all demographics are

(04:35):
okay with that. But unless you're gonna close your doors,
pack up and go home after you win something like that,
if you want to keep fundraising or whatever, you got
to make up new things. And so they applied the
same amount of we're on the right side of this,
you're on the wrong side. History will be our judge

(04:58):
to mutilate children that they did the gay marriage the
name of transgenderism.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
It was only a couple of years ago the Senator
wien Are celebrated the passage of a different bill to
erode parents' rights by allowing minor children to travel to
California for trans procedures, puberty blockers, chemical castration, what they
call gender affirming healthcare, and allows non parent adults, non
parent adults to bring children to California for experimental and

(05:28):
damaging transgender medical interventions without the knowledge or consent of
their parents.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
That's a law that how is that? That's kidnapping. That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah, it's absolutely insane, And, as Katie Grimes writes in
The California Globe, never addressed were the detransitioner warnings and
experiences of trauma, regret, and often normal issues that confused teenagers.
She mentions a great New York Post in depth report
on this important aspect of regret, which we've talked about,
in which they identified many young people seeking to transition,

(06:00):
but who are doing so without any proper mental health evaluation.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
It is monstrous. So I know we've passed a lot
of crazy laws, but are you're telling me it's a
law that if I live in another state. I live
in Colorado and my kid has been convinced by our
local public liberal school that they're actually a boy or

(06:25):
a girl, the opposite of the sex that they actually are.
They're transgender jack right. And my neighbor finds out that
I am not doing the surgeries. They could take my
kid and drive to California and get the surgeries done,
and that would.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Be the very activist teacher could do it. Sure well,
California would give zero cooperation.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
It'd be like a sanctuary state. In fact, that's what
they called it.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
The authorities in California would be legally forbidden forum cooperating
with you in any way.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
That is crazy. Yeah, it's monstrous. It's actually monstrous. Now
I promise you dem on dem violence. And here's what
I was talking about.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
The fabulous Megan Kelly was talking to Ram Emmanuel, he
of the Obama administration and the mayor of Chicago and
a very sharp, fairly moderate Democrat who has his eyes
on the prize. And she asked him some questions about

(07:29):
gender bending madness. And we're going to compare and contrast
his answers with one Gavin Newsom of Kelly Unicorneia in
a moment. But Michael, let's go with the eighty three first, So.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Do you believe boys should be able to play in
girls sports?

Speaker 5 (07:44):
Now?

Speaker 6 (07:44):
Do you believe that Roald Robin.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yeah, this will do a quick rabbit fire and then
we can move past this. Do you believe that kids
under the age of eighteen should be able to be
put on puberty blockers and then cross sex hormones.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
I think parents have to make that decision themselves. I
think that is to a child is too young at
eighteen to make that decision has to be made with
a family, and that choice I think, and before somebody
makes a life decision, they have to think twice about that.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
So he didn't explicitly reject the perverse Scott Wiener Gavin
Newsome idea that no, no, the kid can't decide on
their own and get risked somewhere to do it by
an activist teacher, but he made it clear that that's
what he thinks.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
He went on eighty four B Michael.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Should we be putting men in female prisons? Men claiming
they're women?

Speaker 7 (08:35):
No?

Speaker 1 (08:36):
And all right, here's my last one for you. Can
a man become a woman?

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Can a man become a woman?

Speaker 5 (08:45):
No?

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Thank you, that's so easy. Why don't more people in
your party just say that?

Speaker 6 (08:50):
Because I'm now going to go into a witness protection plan.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Exactly and I wish we had time.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Maybe it will get into it next But Noah Rothman
of the National Review wrote a great column about a
couple of jokes that have been made lately by Democrat politicians,
including that one in which Rom Immanuel said, Yeah, having said,
given you those easy, obvious answers, I now got to
get into the witness protection program in my own party,
Ram stating obviously that this is really dangerous for me

(09:21):
Democrat politics.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, but I don't know how much people know Ram
Emmanuel's act. I've watched him in interviews for many, many years.
He's strong enough to stand up to that. He is
not a guy that will shrink from that.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
No, he's not intimidating by anybody. So should men be
in female prisons because they say they're a woman?

Speaker 3 (09:38):
No, can a man become a woman?

Speaker 5 (09:41):
No?

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Should boys playing girls sports?

Speaker 5 (09:43):
No?

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Let's compare that with Gavin I want the White House
so badly I have to rearrange my pants. Newsome talking
the other day to Sean Ryan in eighty five, Michael.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
What about for your values? I mean, is eight years
old too young? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (10:00):
I mean, look, I now that I have a nine
year old just became nine. Come on, man, I get it.
So those are legit. You know, it's interesting just the
issue of age.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
I haven't.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
I'm as I and there's someone that's been so focused
on equality broadly LGBT rights, particularly gay marriage. The trans
issue for me is also novel. It's it's over the
last few years. I'm trying to understand as much as
anyone else, whole pronoun thing, try and understand all of that. Well,

(10:39):
you know that was like the hell, I mean all
that stuff, I get it. This, all this stuff started
collapse on us. I joked with Charlie about.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Latin X rama. Manuel is going to thrash you.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Gavin thrash you for several reasons. Number one, I think
just innate ability, and secondly, have said more than once.
Gavin Newsom is a sports team that has never played
an actual game. He has just had inter squad scrimmages,
in trust squad scrimmages. He is in a one party

(11:13):
state where he was anointed the chosen one by Nancy
Pelosi and his relatives at all many years ago. You've
you've never been in a fistfight, Gavin. All you've done
is taken some self defense classes. You are going to
get thrashed.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
I think Grummanuel said at some point, look, the whole
trans thing is like one out of one thousand of
one percent. We've got to stop talking about this stuff.
But as an indicator to people of where you are,
it's huge. Remember the Trump ad that everybody agreed was

(11:50):
the best Trump ad was you play Kamala Harris talking
about trans stuff and you say, Kamala's for she, her
Trump is for you. They them for they them, Trump
is for you. Was huge, and not because how many
trans people come into your life. It's just okay, are
you a nut job who's gonna play this game or not?
And Gavin can't pick a lane. I mean that was

(12:13):
so weak. I've heard that now like five or six times,
and it's worse every time I hear it. Oh yeah,
The number of coherent sentences there is very very small.
The number of half stated, half truth garbage is very large. Michael,
I know we ought to take a break, but give
me eighty one eighty two back to back real quick.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
The fact is we teach kids and we should basically
focus on the fundamentals and get back to the fundamentals.
I do think as it relates to and I did
this as mayor twenty sixteen. Ambassador, I word, you got
an issue and you're working through on your pronoun, et cetera.
I respect that I come from an inclusive kind of culture,

(12:55):
but it is not the preoccupation for the rest of
the class. The rest of the preoccupation for the class.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Do you want the schools to stop pushing that stuff?

Speaker 6 (13:04):
Yeah, we're spending now, I don't know, eight minutes on this,
there's fifteen million.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
That's only because you're wont give me a straight answer.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
We can move on and give a straight answer. Let
me get you, let me get give you rabbing.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
Kids go to public schools, to schools in elementary education
in America.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
We're talking about point oh one percent, right, So why
are the teachers unions insisting on teaching this stuff every
year to kids as young as six years old?

Speaker 3 (13:30):
It's perverse. Stop it, man, It's gonna be fun to
watch that primary when it finally happens. Oh, gender bending madness,
we gotta play the Okay, more on the way, stay here.

Speaker 7 (13:42):
Bartet, the maker of pop tarts and pringles, said that
they are removing all synthetic dies from their foods. People
who eat pop tarts and pringles are like good Because
my health is very important to me. I think it's

(14:03):
more concerned than that they have to dye pringles the
color of it.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
What color are pringles? Were you dyeing khaki?

Speaker 7 (14:10):
I don't understand this happen. Things have really changed. I
mean now everyone's against artificial dies. I remember the good
old days when people were eating tide pods.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Come on that was that's a good question. What color
are pringles? I get that there's probably not a lot
of strawberry and a strawberry pop tart, so you need
to dye something red to make it look like that.
But what color is a pringle? Who knows?

Speaker 4 (14:34):
I mean potatoes are like potato color, and pringles are
roughly Maybe they're too gray when they come out of
the factory. And that's a great place to get your
food from a factory. As I finish off a protein bar,
that absolutely came from.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
The point I mean, we shouldn't be taking in stuff
that's bad, forced when it's completely unnecessary. But if you're
eating pringles and pop tarts, you're not super concerned about
what you put in your body. I say to myself
as a guy, who's had pringles and pop tarts fairly
recently coming up. You know, the whole ten thousand steps

(15:10):
a day was completely made up. I mean, it's just
a good round number, completely made up. But they have
since everybody got into the whole counting your steps and
your watch app has it and all that sort of
stuff fitbits counting your steps, they have figured out what
numbers make the difference, and at what point beyond that
it doesn't really make any different. So the number you
got to get to every day, we'll get to that

(15:30):
a little bit later. That's a good one to know.
I'm actually gonna put the app back on my watch.
I had taken it off because I don't like being
yelled at my watch because I sat down too much
or whatever. Ye shut up, Watch, shut up. Watch. I
bought you. I can take you back too. I can
take you back to best Buy. It's still offendery turn time.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
I like how I haven't worn it for three days
and I put it on. It says Joe, you haven't
reached your goal lately, but you can today. I'm like, dude,
according to you, I've been completely motionless for seventy two hours.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
I'm dead. How do you not know somebody had an
interesting text with you. So the new fertility rate came
out and weren't an all time low in the United States,
and somebody, who I am, it seems like we should
call it, uh out the call it the reproduction rate,
not the fertility rate, because if it's the fertility rate,

(16:20):
like and we were trying but couldn't have babies, that
would be a completely different story than the fact that
people aren't really trying. They aren't getting together, they aren't mating,
they aren't having sex, they aren't being in relationships. And
then if even if you do, you go out of
your way to make sure you don't get pregnant. So
that's different than fertility rate. It's a good point. Yeah,

(16:41):
it's the we don't want to have kids. That's a
psychological well maybe it's not. Maybe it maybe who knows,
Maybe it's.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
The dies they put in pop darts, or some innate
sense we have of whether we ought to reproduce or not.
I don't mean in these troubled times with global warming, No,
I'm not talking about that crap. I'm just talking about
we look around and just don't feel the need. We're
too safe and secure happy.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
How it's not the lead story today everywhere. I do
not know. Tulci Gabbard press conference yesterday in the briefing
room accusing Barack Obama of some serious crimes. Stay tuned
for that are strong and getty.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
It was worse than we thought, because now we know
it did in fact go all the way to the
White House, all the way to the President of the
United States.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
That's Jim Jordan, who we've had on the show. I
like the guy, but there have been a lot of
Republicans that I tend to like, say some things that
have not turned out to be as nailed down as
they claimed, or you know, they just don't go anywhere
for a variety of reasons. If what Toulci Gabbard said

(17:55):
yesterday is true, I think this would be the biggest
scandal in US history, and it it's hardly made the news.
She's the Director of National Intelligence c and Ferry has
the ability to look at all of it, NSACIA, FBI,
bring it together, figure it out right. And then she's

(18:19):
in the White House press briefing room yesterday and makes
all these claims which are about to claim are about
to play for you, and it's not getting a hell
of a lot of attention anywhere out of Fox other
than Fox. But let's run through all this stuff. There's
some entertaining stuff in here too. One at a time, Michael,
here we go.

Speaker 8 (18:35):
The report goes into great detail about the information that
Russia and Putin had which on Hillary Clinton, which included
possible criminal acts like secret meetings with multiple named US
religious organizations in which State Department officials offered, in exchange
for supporting Secretary Clinton's campaign for the presidency, significant increases

(18:56):
in financing from the State Department. They also had documents
that showed the patronage of the State Department to State
Department employees who would go and support Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
I mean, that's a completely new angle that I don't
remember hearing before, it tolds. He goes on.

Speaker 8 (19:15):
They were high level DNC emails that detailed evidence of
Hillary's quote, psycho emotional problems, uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression,
and cheerfulness, and that then Secretary Clinton was allegedly on
a daily regiment of heavy tranquilizers.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
So what is that?

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Wait, what I know, I know, Okay, I'm confused.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
What what's she alleging.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
That that somebody held that back or well, first of all,
when whoever, because we no longer remember it was low confidence,
we now know that it was Russia that hacked the emails.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
But so whoever hacked the emails, they did get hacked.
There were emails in there that had information about Hillary
being play that again just because that list of her
mental situation was kind of entertaining. Their high level.

Speaker 8 (20:12):
DNC emails that detailed evidence of Hillary's quote, psycho emotional problems,
uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression, and cheerfulness.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
There you go, cheerfulness.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah, and she was on heavy doses, daily doses of tranquilize.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
But the idea that Hillary would explode in rage then
laugh like she would, I mean, you know, it was
mocked by Amy Poehler on Saturday Night Live. It was
so weird that she was just birth of But I
don't I don't think that she was like insane or anything.
I think she was just a politician trying to come
off as cheerful.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Now, Hillary did claim at one point that Tulsi is
a Russian asset.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Is this her vengeance? Oh boy?

Speaker 4 (20:55):
And besides, if when the Russians hack emails, they don't
like very carefully and professionally make sure that exactly precisely
accurate renderings that the emails are then.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Issued to the public.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
No, they'll mess with them in an effort to do
as much crazy as they can.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
If indeed it was then behind it, you would be
crazy not to if you don't hack the emails and
then write some yourself that you include and give them
to wikileits or whoever. You're not trying, right, let's roll on.

Speaker 8 (21:23):
Then, CIA Director Brennan and the intelligence community mischaracterized intelligence
and relied on dubious, substandard sources to create a contrived,
false narrative that putin developed a quote unquote clear preference
for Trump.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
I think that's completely true. Yeah, I agree completely and
with that as well. Go on, TELSI.

Speaker 8 (21:42):
There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and
his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence
community assessment.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
That they knew was false.

Speaker 8 (21:54):
They knew it would promote this contrived narrative that Russia
interfered in the twenty sixteen election to help President Trump win,
selling it to the American people as though it were true.
It wasn't. The report that we released today shows in
great detail how they carried this out. They manufactured findings
from shoddy sources. They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that

(22:18):
disproved their false claims. They disobeyed traditional trade craft intelligence
community standards and withheld the truth from the American people.
In doing so, they conspired to subvert the will of
the American people who elected Donald Trump in that election
in November of twenty sixteen. They worked with their partners

(22:38):
in the media to promote this lie, ultimately to undermine
the legitimacy of President Trump and launching what would be
a year's long coup against him and his administration. We're
here today because the American people deserve the truth, They
deserve accountability, and they deserve justice. Even the bipartisan Senate
Select Committee on Intelligence report published in twenty twenty, criticized

(23:01):
the FBI's handling of the Steele dossier. James Coby and others,
including their mouthpieces in the media, knowingly lied as they
repeated the contrived narrative that was created in this January
twenty seventeen Intelligence Community assessment.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Very briefly, she said, we deserve the truth, and I
think that long clip was full of truth.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
That was good, solid stuff.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
We deserve accountability, not going to get it, Nope, And
we deserve justice, not going to get that either. It
all struck me as a very well constructed editorial based
on what we now know about how dishonest all those
people were, and that's probably where it's going to end.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
But that was solid. Yeah. I think it's going to
end there too, which is pretty awful. Yeah. Well, so
here's Ed O'Keefe, who I have dined with. I found
him to be both pleasant, cheerful, and quite happy with
himself of CB's news asking TELSI about our proof. Help

(24:06):
us from a fifty thousand foot level, explain what do
you now have that refutes those two of the share
I will encourage you.

Speaker 8 (24:15):
In my role as the Director of National Intelligence, my job, again,
as I said when I came into this role, was
to make sure that we are telling the truth to
the American people and that we are ensuring that the
intelligence community is not being politicized. So I'm not asking
you to take my word for it. I'm asking you
and the media to conduct honest journalism and the American

(24:37):
people to see for yourself and the documents that we've
released now close to two hundred pages that point in
multiple references, multiple examples, to include comments that have been
made by senior intelligence professionals who are some still working
within these agencies today that confirm the conclusions that we

(24:58):
have drawn that President Obama directed an intelligence community assessment
to be created to further this contrived, false narrative that
ultimately led to a year's long cue to try to
undermine President Trump's presidency.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Those two previous investigations dismissed that or covered it up.

Speaker 8 (25:18):
I'm telling you to look at the evidence. Look at
the evidence, and you will know the truth.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
So we talked about it yesterday when we were reading
from the transcripts and everything like that. So even without
the Obama stuff, which I'm sure the media would really
not want to, you know, have to dig into. Even
without the Obama stuff, did you hear anybody report other
than Fox and shows like ours, the fact that CIA

(25:45):
and FBI had very low confidence that that narrative that
Russia was trying to help Trump win was true? Very
low confidence from CIA and the FBI. Have you heard
anybody report that at all? That seems to be irrefutable
unless you're gonna claim that those documents are made up,
but I haven't. Everybody claim that they just don't know.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
How specific quotes from high level of people saying this
is ridiculous, we can't include this.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
This goes against all of our standards. Yeah, that is known. Well,
have you heard anybody reported other than Fox and Again
shows like ours? Not?

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Really?

Speaker 3 (26:20):
No, no, So they're not. See, that's the new era
that we're in. You don't have to like come up
with a rebuttal or or or even make something up
to push back on something. If it's a story you
don't like, you just don't cover it and it disappears.

(26:41):
Because our new our media is so fragmented, and everything
moves so fast, and our attention span is so short,
just ignore it.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
I read a piece by Holman Jenkins in the Wall
Street Journal, and it's I was trying to figure out
how to distill it and bring it to you.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
It's it's honestly a little bit confusing.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
The bottom line is that Komy and Brennan and Clapper
and Obama got baited by the Russians over and over again,
and and they're various hacked. There are various hacks and
and mouthpieces and stuff like that, and they kept being
jerked around by by false intelligence and by planted Russian

(27:26):
crap intended to confuse them, and that a lot of
this was a cover up of their incompetence. But again
that part how he makes that case is it's really
complicated and it'll make your head hurt.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
So I'll just skip to this part. Well, so are
you saying that so that the Russians goal was to
like trick the Obama administration into thinking all this bad
stuff was happening kind of and again it which would
be I mean, that's a hell of a good plan.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
Well, and and again I I'm resisting getting into this
because it's complicated and it's impossible to summarize. Comy got
duped into reopening the Clinton email thing by some false
Russian propaganda that claimed to be signal interceptions from high

(28:20):
level Obama administration people. It was fake, but he thought,
this will get out and make all of us look bad.
So I've got to cover our tracks by making a
big deal of the Hillary thing. Blah blah blah. And
that led into ways in which Jenkins explains the whole
Russian collusion thing because they were trying to cover up

(28:42):
their incredible incompetence in the Hillary email thing in one
other matter. But trust me when I say this is
the really interesting part.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Do you remember when Hillary coughed up that thing that
was kind of green white colored.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
I think dust was born. The must explains all that follows.
I further stipulate that Messer's komy klas it was a
cover up. Mister Comy's first untoard decision spawned a second
reopening the Hillary probe shortly before election day, which missus
Clinton and independent posters say elected mister Trump. Imagine if
the subject in twenty sixteen's wake hadn't been mister Trump's

(29:14):
imaginary Russia tized, but the real incompetence of US officials
in tilting the election of mister Trump based on false
Russian intelligence danglings.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
In other words, Comy.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
And Clapper and Brennan got duped into believing some Russian
fake intelligence that impuned Hillary.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
What was that a week before the election. It was
real close, Yeah, are real close to the election and
tip the election in the favor of Hillary.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
And that was known, so they had to cloud the
water with new scary intelligence all about how Trump's an evildoer,
which completely eclipsed their role in screwing Hillary and getting
Trump elected.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Now that reminds me of the summary. That reminds me
a little like the COVID thing. The Fauci crowd got
caught making up horrible viruses in a sloppy lab, so
they had to go hardcore. A completely different direction and
different story. Great comparison, Yeah, really good.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
I haven't even gotten to my favorite part of this,
the part that made me say, oh my god, when
Hillary you have to be after the break, when Hillary
coughed up that weird thing.

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It's pretty amazing when you think about it. Yes, okay,
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(31:58):
That's insane, I know.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
So.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
As I mentioned earlier, Holman Jenkins Junior of The Wall
Street Journal was writing this piece about how some Russian
intelligence came up with a couple of memos in Russian
that seemed to rely on intercepted US communications and made
it clear that the Obama administration was trying to kill
the Clinton email investigation.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Komy knew it.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
Was false, but thought it represented a counterintelligence matter that
they had to deal with, and so they in order
to avoid the perception that was the case, they overcorrected,
and he like went big on the Hillary email thing
right before the election and probably tipped it toward Trump.
And Jenkins believes that a lot of what followed was

(32:43):
a cover up of that screw up. So just jumping ahead,
now here's the really interesting part. Then there's a part
nobody wants to think about. Vladimir Putin was walked. First,
US officials use bogus Russian intelligence to try to assure

(33:05):
MISSUS Clinton's victory with mister Trump's surprise when new bogus
intelligence has rolled out to suggest mister Trump was in
treasonous codes with Russia, mister Putin knows it's all nonsense,
and he knows his US.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Counterparts know it.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Oh then the twenty twenty election comes along and fifty
one top figures in US intelligence people mister Putin might
have dealt with personally concoct a story that a laptop
of embarrassing and incriminate information about Joe Biden's son is
a Russian intelligence plant. Putin knows they're lying, and they
know he knows.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
When waging excuse me, when weighing the probabilities of this
Ukraine grab, what did mister Putin make of the feckless
and self abasing and frankly maxwell smartish acts of US
intelligent leaders in it's anything goes battle with mister Trump.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
These events filled.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
The six years before February twenty fourth, twenty two, when
mister Putin was mulling the most important bed of his career.
The US response to his Ukraine move, in turn, would
affect how the Ukrainians themselves responded, resist or cut a deal.
The Biden administration's first impulse, remember, was to urge the
Zelenski government to flee. When CIA chief Burns of Biden

(34:21):
administration visited Moscow in twenty one to warn the Russians
off invading, did he also breathe the CIA's conclusion that
a Russian invasion would be successful? That whole bit about
Putin knew we were lying, and Putin knew that we knew,

(34:43):
he knew we were lying, and he.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Had to think. The US is falling apart.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
They're utterly ineffective, They're so tied up in well Trump
derangement syndrome. They're completely debasing themselves in the.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Very thing they do for a living. Yeah, that had
to be something for him when that whole this has
all the earmarks of Russian disinformation about the laptop, and
he was like, you know that that's not true, right
at which they did, by the way.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Oh yeah yeah, And he had to think this country
is completely screwed up.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
He's pretty close to right there. I don't think they
have the will to stand up to me. Yeah, that
is a hell of a thing. There is not going
to be the ending to this story that I would like.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
No, as Jenkins says, Unfortunately, there's more to learn and
we probably.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Won't yep, not for a long long time decades from
now maybe, as is often the case with these kind
of things. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Wow, spooks plus politics equals trouble.

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A good hour four by the way, A lot of
good stuff I can't wait to get to, including is
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A bunch of tech stories.

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