August 15, 2025 • 35 mins
Hour 4 of A&G features...
- Introverts vs. Extroverts & C.O.W. Clips of the Week!
- Trump's meeting with Putin
- Smart phones are ruining our brains
- Final Thoughts!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Getty Armstrong and Jettie and Key.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
We're just having a conversation about introverts and extroverts. And
I think about that a lot as an introvert, when
there's things that I kind of want to do but
I just can't, or I get there and I think
I can't do this, I leave, which I don't know
what that is like.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Introvert with.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Some desire to be an extrovert or something, because I
know introverts is like I never want to be there.
I've never been there and want to stay there. It's
just they're perfectly fine with zero. I must have the
desire for something. But it reminded me of there's this
YouTube video with David Letterman and a whole bunch of
other big time comedians are actually discussing the death.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Of Norm mcdonaldnald anyway.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So it's Letterman, Dave Chappelle, Conan O'Brien, Adam Sandler, David's Maade,
a bunch of heavyweight other like funny people and stuff
like that. And they get onto the conversation about knowing
each other in real life and everything like that, and
David Letterman said in reality or no, he said, in theory,
I would love to have dinner with each and ever
(01:34):
one of you. Like Conan had said something about trying
to go out to eat with David Letterman, good luck,
he said.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
In theory.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Letterman said, in theory, I'd like to go out to
eat with each and every one of you. But in reality,
it's just never going to happen. And I thought that
is interesting. He's got that, like I've got it where
I'd kind of like to like the idea of it
is great, this is never going to happen in reality.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
What is that? It's just somewhere on the spectrum.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, yeah, I think absolutely you've identified there's like a
group of complete introverts who don't even feel the desire
to have that connection with people or whatever. And then
I think it moves up to people who are kind
of fifty to fifty issue or whatever. You know. I
don't know where I am exactly, but I've mentioned this before.
(02:26):
It made a real impression on me and actually helped
me reading Thomas Jefferson saying his natural inclination is for solitude.
And I can't remember precisely how he phrased it. I'm
sure it was quite elegant, but he said, but I
realized I get really weird and angry and like alienated
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if I indulge myself in that.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
So I've got to reach out to other people. And
I thought, yep, that's me.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Well, I'll have to work on that when my kids
leave the house, because with kids, I kind of get
pulled into social interactions all the time, Like I've had
a gazillion this week, just with the week before school.
You know, there's just meetings and this and that and
sporting events and whatever. But without kids, I could see
myself getting pretty isolated pretty fast. Well and clearly, I'll
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let you speak for yourself.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I don't want to make any assumptions, but year old
pal alcohol was kind of helpful in you know, social
encounters as a real introvert.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, just for me, Yeah, that is an interesting thing
that desire. But the one thing that makes me know
I am an introvert as opposed to like an extrovert,
which I've had people tell me I am. And I
just don't know order wherever I know that I get
drained by people as opposed to energized.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
That's the big key. As I've known.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Extroverts, that must be awesome to be an extrovert where
you get energized by being around other people.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It gives you more energy to take on to the
day as opposed to like it just like sucks the life.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
All right, So anybody can answer, because I think we're
all kind of introverts. Small group of people you really
like that you're comfortable with.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Sure, to me, I can do that a lot. Yeah,
I can do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Like I played golf the other day with three friends
who I'm very comfortable with.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
We went out to dinner.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I did not have any of the I'm exhausted feeling
at all because I'm so comfortable with them. There was
abbyer involved. But that's small groups of people you you
are comfortable with. That's that's the exception to the rule.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I think.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Otherwise, you know, just meeting new people and blah blah blah,
do you draw energy from that or does that draw
energy from you?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
That's the that's the dividing line, right.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Oh, just you saying that gonna be a bunch of
new people you don't know there, I'm picturing a big
loud table at a restaurant. Ah, yeah, Katie, I'm doing
the same thing.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You know. I had a physical reaction to that as
similar as if he was talking about like Big Harry
spiders or something like that. You know, I had a
similar reaction. Wow, crazy, You know. Well, each the extroverts
think they're normal, and there's something wrong with introverts.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Introverts are in your DEMI we leave you alone, we
leave you alone. You won't leave us alone?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Right right?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
All right? Well, enough of that.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I want to get back to that AI breakthrough an
animation and how instead of it taking years to animate
a toy story, it might take a day and a
half got to write.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
A great story.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
But among others, I want to hear more of what
you mentioned earlier about that study about how smartphones are
even worse than we think, oh of what they're doing
to us.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Bit of a downer that one. But let's take a
fond look back at the week that was. First, it's
cow clips.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Of the Week's punch them doggies, it's cow hips. Wake up, America.
This is a serious moment we're gonna have thrown at
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us by Pootin for you one another truth. We saw that.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Russia continued its violence into Ukraine last night, launching even
more drones.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
What did you make of that?
Speaker 5 (06:27):
In his mind that helps him make a better deal,
it actually hurts him.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
There's a very real chance President Trump will get up
and leave if Putin refuses to concede anything.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
You'll have some land swamps, but only after you have
security guarantees to Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It's important to see how serious Putin is, and the
only one who can do that is President Trump's for.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
President Donald Trump saying he wants to make Washington, DC
safer and more beautiful.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I'm officially invoking section seven four of the District of
Columbia Home Rule Act.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You know what that is? Washington DC? Very dangerous there that.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I actually was jumped walking just two blocks down from here.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
If people are afraid to come to DC, go to
Disney World, get fat, eat frenchise.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I don't care. I've lived here thirty.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Seven years, and it turns out throwing a sandwich is
no small offense. He's now charged with a felony and
he's fired from the Department of Justice. So there six,
you're subway sandwich somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Donald Trump, you have poked the bear and we were
punched back. Right in front of the home of the
Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Hundreds of people block an interception as drivers perform dangerous don't.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
If you're a driver and you want to see that
car literally crushed as we impound it, go ahead and
test us.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Newly released drone video shows Palestinian militants pretending to be
workers from the world's central kitchen.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
We're wiping your heinee with lies.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
So now we're here, maybe to give you the platform
to apologize to the first lady when.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Targi said that he was smoking seven gramd rocks, he
was smoking seven gramd rocks. Genn Eggs, this is my
brand new album, The Life of a show Girl. Yes,
I'm Clips of the Week.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Have you seen the actual video of the person throwing
the sandwich at the ice officer?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I have, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That It's more violent than you picture it, or at
least than I was picturing it. That person was unhinged.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Now you got federal charges and no sandwich. Dumb dumb right,
look at that lose lose right, idiot, Yeah right, Yeah,
it was a big sandwich. And he hurled it as
hard as he could at the guy's chest. I suspect
he still went the federal officers still went home to
his family that night.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
It was an assault. He turned run and ran like
a well a bad word. I can't say.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yes, well he did, but they caught him and threw
him down on the pavement and ruined his evening, and
again sandwichless.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Trump just said something else on the plane flying to Anchorage.
Maybe we can get that for you in a second.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Bear's going to interview him. I think during the flight
this is a clip from Brett Bears.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
We might have that coming up next. Trump said it
could be a failure from the start. This is not
the Brett Bear thing. This is just New York Times
reporting from like a minute ago, from some reporter on
the plane. Trump said it could be a failure from
the start. Trump said, before leaving Washing Buh, if he
shows up to the news conference alone, like if he
walks out by himself, you'll know there is no forthcoming deal.
(10:13):
So that'll be a tell right off the bat or.
Trump said, if there's a real progress, he might stay
in Alaska and Aska Zelenski to fly in from Ukraine
and he said that'd be the easiest way. I'd be
a heck of a thing. I don't know if you
go on Expedia and like book.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Rooms real fast, same day rooms. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
As interested as I am in Trump's strategy slash reactions
to Putin, I'm even more interest fascinated by by Putin's strategy.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
He is just going to sit there like the alligator.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
He is listen to Trump, read Trump, and decide which
of three strategies he's going to go with, because he
is absolutely going there with multiple, you know, methods of
attack depending on what he hears, unless it's clear to
him he's already sussed all of it out and he
(11:07):
knows which one he's going with.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I forgot to bring this up because I've only heard
it from my favorite see if I can dig this
up real quick, my favorite podcast that I listened to
that's all about Ukraine from the London Telegraph, and one
of their reporters is there, and he was there yesterday.
He's hilarious. I should know his name because I listened
to him every day and he's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
He was there.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
He couldn't find a hotel on short notice because it
had gotten full he said he was trying to book
a hotel and somebody said, we have one forty kilometers away,
and he said, I don't consider that an Anchorage hotel,
so I'm not going to take that. But he rented
a mini Winnie Winnebago, and he and this other guy
and he was complaining.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
As listened to him on the phone.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
He was complaining about how the other guy was taking
up the entire bed and he couldn't sleep and he
should have come with somebody smaller. But they were parked
in the mini when he by the river, and he
said he was going to fish for salmon for dinner
while they're waiting for.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
The somewhat to happen. Wow.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
But that rooms were really tough to get because the
whole world was descending upon Anchorage, just all of a
sudden out of nowhere or is it Fairbanks, whichever one.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Well, and it's high season two for vacationers there.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
But their headline yesterday was Trump proposes West Bank style
occupation of Ukraine and offers putin minerals for peace. And
they called it an exclusive and I haven't heard it
anywhere else that there was some sort of Ukraine gets
to claim it's still their territory, but it will be
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occupied by Russians with some international flavors so that they
don't like just start the war back up again in
the way that Israel's not taking away Gaza, but they're
going to be the people they're running. I hadn't heard
that anywhere else, but that's what the London Telegraph was
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reporting yesterday.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, honey, we're gonna have my best friend the drunk
move into our house. But he has assured me that
he will, and we'll have a method of making sure
that he doesn't and it will be fine. Dot dot
dot on its face. That is disaster waiting to happen
to me. Trump, talk to Brett Baar. Fox will have
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a little bit of that and other stuff on the way.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Stay here, armstrong, heyetti.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putiner said to me
one on one in Alaska. You're meeting alone Donald. Quick
tip if he says it's a bit stuffy in here,
don't open a window.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Tab a lighter side of dictators murdering people by throwing
them out of windows and maybe doing it to our president.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So I was hoping there was audio. There's not yet.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Brettbear of Fox interviewed Trump on the plane en route
to Alaska for the big meeting. Trump told Brett Baer,
if the meeting doesn't go well, isn't going well, I
will walk, so, he says, on the way to the meeting,
I suppose, So Brett's gonna air that in the middle
of the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
His time.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, the meeting probably won't be over yet, and certainly
the lunch will be going on. Living on the West
coast where we do, we're gonna be able to take
in some of this tonight, but it's going to be
like middle of the night for East coast media when
the press conference might happen.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yep, have to wake up to it. Yeah. Speaking of Russia,
this is really interesting analysis from a guy who's written
a book about Putin and the uses of war. Really
really solid account of Putin and the use of force. Anyway,
he mentioned Russia's losing soldiers, some thirty thousand of them
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get killed or seriously wounded every month. These are huge numbers,
about a millions since September of twenty two. He talks
about Putin giving out signing bonuses that are higher than
the average national annual salary, but the number of first
time volunteers might be dipping below the replacement rate.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
God, there are volunteers, How desperate are you to volunteer?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Unestimated two hundred thousand criminals have been persuaded in quotes
to volunteer in quotes.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Of course, we don't have any idea what they know
about the meat grinder, that is the war.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
They might not know that right.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Russia is also losing at least three hundred million dollars
a day on this war. It's eating up about forty
percent of government spending, which is seven or eight percent
of gross domestic product. Oil and gas revenue half the
Russian budget are down by twenty eight percent from last
July and the lowest in a couple of years. Russia
isn't out of money, but it's running out of cash.
(15:52):
No one, including its Chinese friends, without limits, will buy
its debt. It's only a reliable source of money the
National Welfare Fund, where mister Putin has been storing profits
from oil sold above the planned prices since two thousand
and eight. The funds liquid resources are down from one
hundred and seventeen billion dollars four years ago to thirty
(16:13):
five billion this may, and if crude falls much further,
the fund will run out in a few months. Central
Bank of Russia experts say, quote, this is a crisis scenario.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, I hope it's true.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
The only reason I'm not excited about this is I
feel like I've been hearing this for quite a while.
There does have to be a limit. I mean, it's
the old uh whatever that's saying is if something can't continue,
it will end. I mean, right, you can't continue doing this?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, So coming up next segment, something completely different, the
smartphone and the young mind. We should all be alarmed,
more alarmed than we are. Wow, and I'm pretty damned
alarmed already. Yeah yeah, yeah, like alarmed alarmed, Like an
alarm just went off and your looking around frantically alarmed.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Doukay.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I will stay tuned for that if you miss a
segment or now, or getting our podcast Armstrong and Getty
on demand.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Armstrong and Getty. Yeah, let's make a deal on the television.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
In the studio, guy in a porcupine and outfit and
doing the running Man dance. He looks happier than me.
What's going on there? Anyway? Trump did talk to Brett
Baar of Fox on the plane on the way to Alaska,
and we got a clip of that coming up next segment.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
So alarming new study find smartphones are ruining our brains
at unprecedented speed.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
We all feel it.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yes, yes, what was once speculation hyperbole has turned into science.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
The results are beyond alarming. This right up is a
little uh.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
It's conversational, and I'd like to get at the original study.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I usually do that, although.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
This is one of those studies that while I would
like to know the methodology, It's like if I heard
there was a study that businessmen who get drunk and
hang out in hotel bars where there are a lot
of drunk business women who are lonely have a higher
incidence of infidelity. I don't need to know a lot
about the methodology. Good, I mean, it's in front of
us anyway. The universal addiction to smartphones is actively ruining
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our brains, especially gen Z, at a pace that should
shock us. The Financial Times, which is a serious freaking publication,
published a devastating analysis of American personality changes using data
from the Understanding America Study and blah blah blah. In
less than a decade, conscientiousness which is a trait most
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closely linked to responsibility, follow through and self control, has
collapsed among young adults. Oo again, I would like to
know more about the methodology of this. That's my only
grain assault. But the longer I go, the more you're
going to think, Uh, yeah, that's what I'm observing.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Wow. I have thought a lot about it and observed
the attention span conscientiousness.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Again, that's responsibility, follow through, and self control for those
age sixteen to thirty nine. It's not a gradual erosion.
It's a plunge from respectability, specifically in the mid to
upper forties. In it's a personality score that you get
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anyway from the mid to upper forties to the upper twenties.
Older adults who aren't as addicted as smartphones meanwhile remain
essentially unchanged. Let's see the score for neuroticism has gone
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from sixty to seventy, agreeableness from forty five to thirty five.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I have that problem, but I've got two teenagers and
you know.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Do telling with a conversation of earlier extroversion from fifty
one to thirty eight.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
A plunge from being extroverts toward introvert interesting right, just
as a class of people. And it makes sense because
we're talking about extroverts and introverts in terms of socializing
and that sort of thing. Can you think of any
gen zers who can't pick up the phone to call
for a pizza or are horrified if somebody reaches out
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to them without warning and wants to talk. I mean
that is introversion, like an extreme point.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Sure, the Financial Time writes up their findings, while a
full explanation of these shifts requires thorough investigation, and there
will be many factors at work. Smartphones and streaming services
seem likely culprits. The advent of ubiquitous and hyper engaging
digital media has led to an explosion in distraction, as
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well as making it easier than ever to either not
make plans in the first place or to abandon them.
The sheer convenience of the online world makes real life
commitments feel messy and effortful wo and the rise of
time spent online in the attendant decline in face to
face interactions enable behaviors such as ghosting.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I'm thinking of somebody I know who already had those
tendencies and they're so much worse now. I'll bet this
is what drove it.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Again.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Hyper engaging digital media has led to an explosion and distraction, obviously,
but it's made it easier than ever either to not
make plans because you can amuse yourself with your device,
and or to abandon them.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
You think I'm not gonna bother to go do that.
I can be very amused with my device.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah, well think it back to mine when I was
in my twenties, Gladys.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
You still work here, Gladys, And she was tuning her hard.
Lan needs to do that during the conversa they get
about my twenties.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
If I didn't have plans on a Friday night, I
was gonna be sitting at home watching TV. And there's
only a couple of channels on and like, not much
to see. So I was gonna be sitting all home
doing nothing. Now you're twenty something, you sit at home,
You got the entire world in front of you, every
piece of music, art, movie, TV, porn, whatever that.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Exists on earth.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
It's a different to you by the greatest minds of
our generations. There are no push factors to get you
out of your apartment. Right, So and again I like
this line. The sheer convenience of the online world makes
real life commitments and relationships, I would add, feel messy
and effortful.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, that is brutal.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Other charts in the article reveal that attention deficits are
not just at issue, a deeper commitment to a digital
world over the real world is also evolving at an
alarming rate, as is a sharp decline in trust and extraversion.
If you need evidence of the just go to any
public park and witness the vast majority of people staring
into their phones.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Well, wh our brains will evolve to adjust to this,
it'll The problem is it'll take about one hundred thousand.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Years, right and in what way? We don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Uh. We are living through a revolution bigger than the
printing press. That's not hyperbole, I believe when when Gutenberg's
press arrived in the fifteenth century, it rewired the world
by making knowledge scalable. It took centuries for that transformation
to ripple through every corner of human society. The smartphone
has done something similar, only it's moving at light speed
and in the opposite direction. In less than fifteen years,
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we've tethered billions of brains to an always on, infinitely
stimulating meta world, a hybrid of the broader digital ecosystem,
the aipowered feed that tells you what is conventionally known,
and social media platforms that distort reality by promoting the loudest,
most self promotional slivers of humanity. This is not a
tool for quiet reflection. It's a b behavioral slot machine
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that lives in your hand.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
A behavioral slot machine. That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, this is I absolutely believe this is a bigger
deal for humankind than the printing press, and much faster.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
And there's more. I tell you what. Just every bit
I read, well, I'll just keep going.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
And the cost is attention, not just I get distracted
sometimes attention, but the deep sustained focus that conscientious conscientiousness requires,
the skill of delaying gratification, resisting impulse, and staying the
course is being replaced by an addiction to novelty, validation,
and stimulation.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
The more we.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Indulge, the less we can resist indulging. And the chart's
free falling red line for young adults shows exactly where
that road leads.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
The speed of the shift should terrify us.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I'm in the winter of my life. I will be
gone soon, So what difference does it make for me?
But I worry about this a lot with my kids.
Oh my god, and I is.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
There any realistic hope of keeping it from happening?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
To that point, anyone who claims there's a quick fix
is selling snake oil, app timer's, grayscale screens, digital detoxes.
These are band aids on a bullet wound. The deeper
realities that smartphones is a portal to the digital metisphere
have rewired how an entire generation things feels and relates
to the world. There's no undo button, but there is
one place to start recognition. We must acknowledge that we've
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engineered an attention economy whose most precious raw material is
human focus, and we are burning through it like cheap fuel.
Until we admit that there's no hope of slowing the decline,
much less reversing it.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, I'm not optimistic.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, I just I'm not either on a global or
societal scale. I am on an individual and a family scale.
Understanding what you are doing is a precursor to doing
better things. Understanding what you're doing to yourself the problem.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I was comparing it to smoking earlier, and well, someday,
you know, we'll look at staring at your phone like
we look at smoking today. The problem is smoking head
Eventually we figured out unbelievable downsides. It kills you with
a zero upside, I mean slight temporary boost from nicodine,
and if you don't smoke, you don't need it.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
So there's this is different. I mean, it's comforting in
a way.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It's a it's a you know, the blanket of habit.
I wouldn't say that there's no upside, but I see
your point.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
But there's so much immediate upside from staring at your phone,
and the people that know the difference are going to
be dead soon. I mean, everybody else that grew up
with that, their whole lives are gonna be like, what.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Are you talking about? This is the only thing I've
ever done.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I don't I can't conceive of I've never felt a
different life.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So shut up.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Well, and back to the point that the author was
making the one place to start recognition, which means receiving
the information.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Whoops.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
The people distributing the information are those that profit the
most greedily from doing this to the brains of the young,
and they ain't talking.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I mean, I understand you're a recognition on an individual
or family level. But man, there's a tiny little window
here for arresting this by those of us who didn't
grow up with this technology. And when we're gone, there'll
be nobody worried about this. I don't think if you've
(27:36):
always been miserable, you don't know how miserable you are,
or I don't know, they wouldn't call themselves miserable. They
call themselves. I know my kids call themselves perfectly happy.
They're miserable when I make them stop looking at their
phone while we're on our road trip.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You've made my point. Yeah, Oh god, dang it, that
is rough. Okay, here you go.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Uh, we'll consider the twenty ten's the way we look
at the dawn of the industrial are a technological leap
that unleashed prosperity, yes, but also pollution and collapse of
the old ways of life. Only this time the pollution
is in our minds. And while conservation movements helped to
toxify our rivers lakes notions, I suspect we'll soon need
(28:20):
to consider a similar prescription for our collective mind rot.
Maybe it already exists. Let me check TikTok or chat
GPT for what it has to say.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
This is going to get fixed by the fact that
we're not going to have kids and human beings are
going to disappear. Right bebeavers have no interest in social media.
I honestly, one hundred percent believe that's likely. The most
likely scenario is we just populations dwindled down to so little,
because that's where we're screaming toward. And I can't imagine
anything changing as we head further into what you just described.
(28:51):
The you know, it's more fun to stay at home
than go out and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Here's a question for you, and I think I know
the answer, But you know how you're young, hungry, brutal
civilizations which are still having plenty of kids and are
not soft and decadent in the rest like the developed West.
They're willing to kill their way to resources and predominance
and the rest of it. But then I realized, well,
(29:18):
wait a minute, as soon as those countries get at
all prosperous, everybody gets fat.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah, yeah, and they're gonna get and they're gonna get smartphones.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
They're gonna get smartphones and Wi Fi.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
We should be dropping smartphones on some of these beleaguered
countries that we consider our enemies. That'd be the best
way to take on Al Qaeda. Drop smartphones on them
and put up a startlink so they have Wi Fi.
They quit caring about jihad by six months from now.
You're not wrong, I know.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
We got to get to Trump on the plane on
the way to Alaska. He just said something interesting. Stay tuned. Okay,
in the office with President Trump on Air Force one,
heading in, what's your initial feeling.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
How are you feeling about what you're going to get
out of this? I think we're going to do very well.
Our country is doing very well.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
We're setting records economically like we never have before, exluding
the sock markets are all at a record high. We're
taking entridians and tridions of dollars with tariffs. We're going
for a meeting with President Booton in Alaska, and I think.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
It's going to work out very well.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
And if it doesn't, I'm going to head back home
real fast.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I mean, if it doesn't, you walk I would walk
down bye bye.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Okay, We'll see well.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I don't know if saying that out loud is going
to make Putin be more measured and what I have
no idea, kind of wanted to get this on.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I haven't heard it. I hope the juice is worth
the squeeze.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
On this clip, it's Hillary Clinton talking about how she
might recommend Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
I understand from everything I've read he very much would
like to receive the Nobel Peace Prize. And honestly, if
he could bring about the to this terrible war where
Putin is the aggressor invading a neighbor country trying to
change the borders, if he could end it without putting
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Ukraine in a position where it had to concede its
territory to the aggressor, had to in a way validate
Putin's vision of greater Russia. But instead could really stand
up to Putin something we haven't seen. But maybe this
(31:33):
is the opportunity to make it clear that there must
be a cease fire, there will be no exchange of territory,
and that over a period of time Putin should be
actually withdrawing from the territory he seized in order to
demonstrate his good faith efforts. Let us say not to
(31:56):
threaten European security. You know, look, if we could pull
that off, if President Trump were the architect of that,
I'd nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
That's pretty interesting. That's not an impossible scenario. For one thing,
her talking in that you know way about Donald Trump.
You know she used to go wrong claiming that Russia
stole the election for Trump and he wasn't a legitimate president.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I saw, yeah, that's interesting. Her campaign started it so
she would know. Yeah, it is sure.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
And I heard one of my favorite punt saying yesterday
on this whole Nobel Peace Prize thing. The euro weenies
who would have never, ever, in a million years, you know,
first term, had him win the prize have now figured
out that praising him and given him awards is the
best way to get him to do things you want.
So they might give him the Nobel Peace Prize just
as a be nicer to us.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Gesture right right the hill. The beast is smart and tough.
I've always said that she's seventy seven years old. How
much sharper than Biden?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Does she sounds? My god, Hey kids, it's time again
with Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
She's been around my entire adult life She's still five
years younger than Joe Biden. Here's your host for final thoughts,
Joe Geddy.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Why not get a final thought from everybody on the
crew to wrap up this show, Let's begin with Michaelangelow
or technical director.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Michael final thought? All right, here's my biggest worry.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Putin turns out to be a look alike and that
this is a prank and Trump ends up on a
comedy show on Russian tvoy.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Putting's back in Moscow watching it.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yes, punked Putin stuff. Katie Green are esteemed Newswoman. As
a final thought, Katie, I just want to take this
opportunity to congratulate Michael Angelo for totally redeeming himself this
morning with cal Yep.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
That was good stuff. If you didn't hear it the
halfway into the first hour. I always betrayed by those I
trust the most. It'll bring you joy. Jack, you have
a final thought for us? Yeah, this is kind of
like my Super Bowl. I just I really like gu politics,
So I'm gonna be paying attention to this news story
all day long for every bit of information I can get.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, I'd like to pay attention. But the worst has
happened I feared this moment. The man cave has fallen
prey to the construction on my house. They have now
taped shut the gentleman's lounge where.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I have my couch and my TV and my whiskey.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
And it's just it's taped up like a crime scene.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I'm strung in it there, arms strung in Getty wrapping
go another grueling four hour workday.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Dare it?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
That's where I watch golf. So many people, thanks so
little time. Good Armstrong a geeddy dot com got some
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Speaker 2 (34:42):
In geeddy dot com.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
We'll see a Monday God bless America when another stunning lee.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Oh they Armstrong Eddy show me when Jack shoo Hi
and my Glendaye Helo.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
I brought you every single major story that we're kind.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Of weak, but certainly they'll try to do much better
if they're allowed.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
To come back next week.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
They are wrong, Getty show the Constant South, They show
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Russian Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Getty Armstrong and Jettie and Key.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
We're just having a conversation about introverts and extroverts. And
I think about that a lot as an introvert, when
there's things that I kind of want to do but
I just can't, or I get there and I think
I can't do this, I leave, which I don't know
what that is like.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Introvert with.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Some desire to be an extrovert or something, because I
know introverts is like I never want to be there.
I've never been there and want to stay there. It's
just they're perfectly fine with zero. I must have the
desire for something. But it reminded me of there's this
YouTube video with David Letterman and a whole bunch of
other big time comedians are actually discussing the death.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Of Norm mcdonaldnald anyway.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So it's Letterman, Dave Chappelle, Conan O'Brien, Adam Sandler, David's Maade,
a bunch of heavyweight other like funny people and stuff
like that. And they get onto the conversation about knowing
each other in real life and everything like that, and
David Letterman said in reality or no, he said, in theory,
I would love to have dinner with each and ever
(01:34):
one of you. Like Conan had said something about trying
to go out to eat with David Letterman, good luck,
he said.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
In theory.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Letterman said, in theory, I'd like to go out to
eat with each and every one of you. But in reality,
it's just never going to happen. And I thought that
is interesting. He's got that, like I've got it where
I'd kind of like to like the idea of it
is great, this is never going to happen in reality.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
What is that? It's just somewhere on the spectrum.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, yeah, I think absolutely you've identified there's like a
group of complete introverts who don't even feel the desire
to have that connection with people or whatever. And then
I think it moves up to people who are kind
of fifty to fifty issue or whatever. You know. I
don't know where I am exactly, but I've mentioned this before.
(02:26):
It made a real impression on me and actually helped
me reading Thomas Jefferson saying his natural inclination is for solitude.
And I can't remember precisely how he phrased it. I'm
sure it was quite elegant, but he said, but I
realized I get really weird and angry and like alienated
(02:47):
if I indulge myself in that.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
So I've got to reach out to other people. And
I thought, yep, that's me.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Well, I'll have to work on that when my kids
leave the house, because with kids, I kind of get
pulled into social interactions all the time, Like I've had
a gazillion this week, just with the week before school.
You know, there's just meetings and this and that and
sporting events and whatever. But without kids, I could see
myself getting pretty isolated pretty fast. Well and clearly, I'll
(03:15):
let you speak for yourself.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I don't want to make any assumptions, but year old
pal alcohol was kind of helpful in you know, social
encounters as a real introvert.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, just for me, Yeah, that is an interesting thing
that desire. But the one thing that makes me know
I am an introvert as opposed to like an extrovert,
which I've had people tell me I am. And I
just don't know order wherever I know that I get
drained by people as opposed to energized.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
That's the big key. As I've known.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Extroverts, that must be awesome to be an extrovert where
you get energized by being around other people.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It gives you more energy to take on to the
day as opposed to like it just like sucks the life.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
All right, So anybody can answer, because I think we're
all kind of introverts. Small group of people you really
like that you're comfortable with.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Sure, to me, I can do that a lot. Yeah,
I can do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Like I played golf the other day with three friends
who I'm very comfortable with.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
We went out to dinner.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I did not have any of the I'm exhausted feeling
at all because I'm so comfortable with them. There was
abbyer involved. But that's small groups of people you you
are comfortable with. That's that's the exception to the rule.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I think.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Otherwise, you know, just meeting new people and blah blah blah,
do you draw energy from that or does that draw
energy from you?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
That's the that's the dividing line, right.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Oh, just you saying that gonna be a bunch of
new people you don't know there, I'm picturing a big
loud table at a restaurant. Ah, yeah, Katie, I'm doing
the same thing.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You know. I had a physical reaction to that as
similar as if he was talking about like Big Harry
spiders or something like that. You know, I had a
similar reaction. Wow, crazy, You know. Well, each the extroverts
think they're normal, and there's something wrong with introverts.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Introverts are in your DEMI we leave you alone, we
leave you alone. You won't leave us alone?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Right right?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
All right? Well, enough of that.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I want to get back to that AI breakthrough an
animation and how instead of it taking years to animate
a toy story, it might take a day and a
half got to write.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
A great story.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
But among others, I want to hear more of what
you mentioned earlier about that study about how smartphones are
even worse than we think, oh of what they're doing
to us.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Bit of a downer that one. But let's take a
fond look back at the week that was. First, it's
cow clips.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Of the Week's punch them doggies, it's cow hips. Wake up, America.
This is a serious moment we're gonna have thrown at
(06:17):
us by Pootin for you one another truth. We saw that.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Russia continued its violence into Ukraine last night, launching even
more drones.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
What did you make of that?
Speaker 5 (06:27):
In his mind that helps him make a better deal,
it actually hurts him.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
There's a very real chance President Trump will get up
and leave if Putin refuses to concede anything.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
You'll have some land swamps, but only after you have
security guarantees to Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It's important to see how serious Putin is, and the
only one who can do that is President Trump's for.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
President Donald Trump saying he wants to make Washington, DC
safer and more beautiful.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I'm officially invoking section seven four of the District of
Columbia Home Rule Act.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You know what that is? Washington DC? Very dangerous there that.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I actually was jumped walking just two blocks down from here.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
If people are afraid to come to DC, go to
Disney World, get fat, eat frenchise.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I don't care. I've lived here thirty.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Seven years, and it turns out throwing a sandwich is
no small offense. He's now charged with a felony and
he's fired from the Department of Justice. So there six,
you're subway sandwich somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Donald Trump, you have poked the bear and we were
punched back. Right in front of the home of the
Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Hundreds of people block an interception as drivers perform dangerous don't.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
If you're a driver and you want to see that
car literally crushed as we impound it, go ahead and
test us.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Newly released drone video shows Palestinian militants pretending to be
workers from the world's central kitchen.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
We're wiping your heinee with lies.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
So now we're here, maybe to give you the platform
to apologize to the first lady when.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Targi said that he was smoking seven gramd rocks, he
was smoking seven gramd rocks. Genn Eggs, this is my
brand new album, The Life of a show Girl. Yes,
I'm Clips of the Week.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Have you seen the actual video of the person throwing
the sandwich at the ice officer?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I have, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That It's more violent than you picture it, or at
least than I was picturing it. That person was unhinged.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Now you got federal charges and no sandwich. Dumb dumb right,
look at that lose lose right, idiot, Yeah right, Yeah,
it was a big sandwich. And he hurled it as
hard as he could at the guy's chest. I suspect
he still went the federal officers still went home to
his family that night.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
It was an assault. He turned run and ran like
a well a bad word. I can't say.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yes, well he did, but they caught him and threw
him down on the pavement and ruined his evening, and
again sandwichless.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Trump just said something else on the plane flying to Anchorage.
Maybe we can get that for you in a second.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Bear's going to interview him. I think during the flight
this is a clip from Brett Bears.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
We might have that coming up next. Trump said it
could be a failure from the start. This is not
the Brett Bear thing. This is just New York Times
reporting from like a minute ago, from some reporter on
the plane. Trump said it could be a failure from
the start. Trump said, before leaving Washing Buh, if he
shows up to the news conference alone, like if he
walks out by himself, you'll know there is no forthcoming deal.
(10:13):
So that'll be a tell right off the bat or.
Trump said, if there's a real progress, he might stay
in Alaska and Aska Zelenski to fly in from Ukraine
and he said that'd be the easiest way. I'd be
a heck of a thing. I don't know if you
go on Expedia and like book.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Rooms real fast, same day rooms. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
As interested as I am in Trump's strategy slash reactions
to Putin, I'm even more interest fascinated by by Putin's strategy.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
He is just going to sit there like the alligator.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
He is listen to Trump, read Trump, and decide which
of three strategies he's going to go with, because he
is absolutely going there with multiple, you know, methods of
attack depending on what he hears, unless it's clear to
him he's already sussed all of it out and he
(11:07):
knows which one he's going with.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I forgot to bring this up because I've only heard
it from my favorite see if I can dig this
up real quick, my favorite podcast that I listened to
that's all about Ukraine from the London Telegraph, and one
of their reporters is there, and he was there yesterday.
He's hilarious. I should know his name because I listened
to him every day and he's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
He was there.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
He couldn't find a hotel on short notice because it
had gotten full he said he was trying to book
a hotel and somebody said, we have one forty kilometers away,
and he said, I don't consider that an Anchorage hotel,
so I'm not going to take that. But he rented
a mini Winnie Winnebago, and he and this other guy
and he was complaining.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
As listened to him on the phone.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
He was complaining about how the other guy was taking
up the entire bed and he couldn't sleep and he
should have come with somebody smaller. But they were parked
in the mini when he by the river, and he
said he was going to fish for salmon for dinner
while they're waiting for.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
The somewhat to happen. Wow.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
But that rooms were really tough to get because the
whole world was descending upon Anchorage, just all of a
sudden out of nowhere or is it Fairbanks, whichever one.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Well, and it's high season two for vacationers there.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
But their headline yesterday was Trump proposes West Bank style
occupation of Ukraine and offers putin minerals for peace. And
they called it an exclusive and I haven't heard it
anywhere else that there was some sort of Ukraine gets
to claim it's still their territory, but it will be
(12:34):
occupied by Russians with some international flavors so that they
don't like just start the war back up again in
the way that Israel's not taking away Gaza, but they're
going to be the people they're running. I hadn't heard
that anywhere else, but that's what the London Telegraph was
(12:56):
reporting yesterday.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, honey, we're gonna have my best friend the drunk
move into our house. But he has assured me that
he will, and we'll have a method of making sure
that he doesn't and it will be fine. Dot dot
dot on its face. That is disaster waiting to happen
to me. Trump, talk to Brett Baar. Fox will have
(13:19):
a little bit of that and other stuff on the way.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Stay here, armstrong, heyetti.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putiner said to me
one on one in Alaska. You're meeting alone Donald. Quick
tip if he says it's a bit stuffy in here,
don't open a window.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Tab a lighter side of dictators murdering people by throwing
them out of windows and maybe doing it to our president.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So I was hoping there was audio. There's not yet.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Brettbear of Fox interviewed Trump on the plane en route
to Alaska for the big meeting. Trump told Brett Baer,
if the meeting doesn't go well, isn't going well, I
will walk, so, he says, on the way to the meeting,
I suppose, So Brett's gonna air that in the middle
of the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
His time.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, the meeting probably won't be over yet, and certainly
the lunch will be going on. Living on the West
coast where we do, we're gonna be able to take
in some of this tonight, but it's going to be
like middle of the night for East coast media when
the press conference might happen.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yep, have to wake up to it. Yeah. Speaking of Russia,
this is really interesting analysis from a guy who's written
a book about Putin and the uses of war. Really
really solid account of Putin and the use of force. Anyway,
he mentioned Russia's losing soldiers, some thirty thousand of them
(14:55):
get killed or seriously wounded every month. These are huge numbers,
about a millions since September of twenty two. He talks
about Putin giving out signing bonuses that are higher than
the average national annual salary, but the number of first
time volunteers might be dipping below the replacement rate.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
God, there are volunteers, How desperate are you to volunteer?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Unestimated two hundred thousand criminals have been persuaded in quotes
to volunteer in quotes.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Of course, we don't have any idea what they know
about the meat grinder, that is the war.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
They might not know that right.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Russia is also losing at least three hundred million dollars
a day on this war. It's eating up about forty
percent of government spending, which is seven or eight percent
of gross domestic product. Oil and gas revenue half the
Russian budget are down by twenty eight percent from last
July and the lowest in a couple of years. Russia
isn't out of money, but it's running out of cash.
(15:52):
No one, including its Chinese friends, without limits, will buy
its debt. It's only a reliable source of money the
National Welfare Fund, where mister Putin has been storing profits
from oil sold above the planned prices since two thousand
and eight. The funds liquid resources are down from one
hundred and seventeen billion dollars four years ago to thirty
(16:13):
five billion this may, and if crude falls much further,
the fund will run out in a few months. Central
Bank of Russia experts say, quote, this is a crisis scenario.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, I hope it's true.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
The only reason I'm not excited about this is I
feel like I've been hearing this for quite a while.
There does have to be a limit. I mean, it's
the old uh whatever that's saying is if something can't continue,
it will end. I mean, right, you can't continue doing this?
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, So coming up next segment, something completely different, the
smartphone and the young mind. We should all be alarmed,
more alarmed than we are. Wow, and I'm pretty damned
alarmed already. Yeah yeah, yeah, like alarmed alarmed, Like an
alarm just went off and your looking around frantically alarmed.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Doukay.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I will stay tuned for that if you miss a
segment or now, or getting our podcast Armstrong and Getty
on demand.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Armstrong and Getty. Yeah, let's make a deal on the television.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
In the studio, guy in a porcupine and outfit and
doing the running Man dance. He looks happier than me.
What's going on there? Anyway? Trump did talk to Brett
Baar of Fox on the plane on the way to Alaska,
and we got a clip of that coming up next segment.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
So alarming new study find smartphones are ruining our brains
at unprecedented speed.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
We all feel it.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yes, yes, what was once speculation hyperbole has turned into science.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
The results are beyond alarming. This right up is a
little uh.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
It's conversational, and I'd like to get at the original study.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I usually do that, although.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
This is one of those studies that while I would
like to know the methodology, It's like if I heard
there was a study that businessmen who get drunk and
hang out in hotel bars where there are a lot
of drunk business women who are lonely have a higher
incidence of infidelity. I don't need to know a lot
about the methodology. Good, I mean, it's in front of
us anyway. The universal addiction to smartphones is actively ruining
(18:18):
our brains, especially gen Z, at a pace that should
shock us. The Financial Times, which is a serious freaking publication,
published a devastating analysis of American personality changes using data
from the Understanding America Study and blah blah blah. In
less than a decade, conscientiousness which is a trait most
(18:39):
closely linked to responsibility, follow through and self control, has
collapsed among young adults. Oo again, I would like to
know more about the methodology of this. That's my only
grain assault. But the longer I go, the more you're
going to think, Uh, yeah, that's what I'm observing.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Wow. I have thought a lot about it and observed
the attention span conscientiousness.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Again, that's responsibility, follow through, and self control for those
age sixteen to thirty nine. It's not a gradual erosion.
It's a plunge from respectability, specifically in the mid to
upper forties. In it's a personality score that you get
(19:26):
anyway from the mid to upper forties to the upper twenties.
Older adults who aren't as addicted as smartphones meanwhile remain
essentially unchanged. Let's see the score for neuroticism has gone
(19:48):
from sixty to seventy, agreeableness from forty five to thirty five.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I have that problem, but I've got two teenagers and
you know.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Do telling with a conversation of earlier extroversion from fifty
one to thirty eight.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
A plunge from being extroverts toward introvert interesting right, just
as a class of people. And it makes sense because
we're talking about extroverts and introverts in terms of socializing
and that sort of thing. Can you think of any
gen zers who can't pick up the phone to call
for a pizza or are horrified if somebody reaches out
(20:28):
to them without warning and wants to talk. I mean
that is introversion, like an extreme point.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Sure, the Financial Time writes up their findings, while a
full explanation of these shifts requires thorough investigation, and there
will be many factors at work. Smartphones and streaming services
seem likely culprits. The advent of ubiquitous and hyper engaging
digital media has led to an explosion in distraction, as
(20:54):
well as making it easier than ever to either not
make plans in the first place or to abandon them.
The sheer convenience of the online world makes real life
commitments feel messy and effortful wo and the rise of
time spent online in the attendant decline in face to
face interactions enable behaviors such as ghosting.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I'm thinking of somebody I know who already had those
tendencies and they're so much worse now. I'll bet this
is what drove it.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Again.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Hyper engaging digital media has led to an explosion and distraction, obviously,
but it's made it easier than ever either to not
make plans because you can amuse yourself with your device,
and or to abandon them.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
You think I'm not gonna bother to go do that.
I can be very amused with my device.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah, well think it back to mine when I was
in my twenties, Gladys.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
You still work here, Gladys, And she was tuning her hard.
Lan needs to do that during the conversa they get
about my twenties.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
If I didn't have plans on a Friday night, I
was gonna be sitting at home watching TV. And there's
only a couple of channels on and like, not much
to see. So I was gonna be sitting all home
doing nothing. Now you're twenty something, you sit at home,
You got the entire world in front of you, every
piece of music, art, movie, TV, porn, whatever that.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Exists on earth.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
It's a different to you by the greatest minds of
our generations. There are no push factors to get you
out of your apartment. Right, So and again I like
this line. The sheer convenience of the online world makes
real life commitments and relationships, I would add, feel messy
and effortful.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, that is brutal.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Other charts in the article reveal that attention deficits are
not just at issue, a deeper commitment to a digital
world over the real world is also evolving at an
alarming rate, as is a sharp decline in trust and extraversion.
If you need evidence of the just go to any
public park and witness the vast majority of people staring
into their phones.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Well, wh our brains will evolve to adjust to this,
it'll The problem is it'll take about one hundred thousand.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Years, right and in what way? We don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Uh. We are living through a revolution bigger than the
printing press. That's not hyperbole, I believe when when Gutenberg's
press arrived in the fifteenth century, it rewired the world
by making knowledge scalable. It took centuries for that transformation
to ripple through every corner of human society. The smartphone
has done something similar, only it's moving at light speed
and in the opposite direction. In less than fifteen years,
(23:39):
we've tethered billions of brains to an always on, infinitely
stimulating meta world, a hybrid of the broader digital ecosystem,
the aipowered feed that tells you what is conventionally known,
and social media platforms that distort reality by promoting the loudest,
most self promotional slivers of humanity. This is not a
tool for quiet reflection. It's a b behavioral slot machine
(24:01):
that lives in your hand.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
A behavioral slot machine. That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah, this is I absolutely believe this is a bigger
deal for humankind than the printing press, and much faster.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
And there's more. I tell you what. Just every bit
I read, well, I'll just keep going.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
And the cost is attention, not just I get distracted
sometimes attention, but the deep sustained focus that conscientious conscientiousness requires,
the skill of delaying gratification, resisting impulse, and staying the
course is being replaced by an addiction to novelty, validation,
and stimulation.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
The more we.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Indulge, the less we can resist indulging. And the chart's
free falling red line for young adults shows exactly where
that road leads.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
The speed of the shift should terrify us.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
I'm in the winter of my life. I will be
gone soon, So what difference does it make for me?
But I worry about this a lot with my kids.
Oh my god, and I is.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
There any realistic hope of keeping it from happening?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
To that point, anyone who claims there's a quick fix
is selling snake oil, app timer's, grayscale screens, digital detoxes.
These are band aids on a bullet wound. The deeper
realities that smartphones is a portal to the digital metisphere
have rewired how an entire generation things feels and relates
to the world. There's no undo button, but there is
one place to start recognition. We must acknowledge that we've
(25:33):
engineered an attention economy whose most precious raw material is
human focus, and we are burning through it like cheap fuel.
Until we admit that there's no hope of slowing the decline,
much less reversing it.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, I'm not optimistic.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, I just I'm not either on a global or
societal scale. I am on an individual and a family scale.
Understanding what you are doing is a precursor to doing
better things. Understanding what you're doing to yourself the problem.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
I was comparing it to smoking earlier, and well, someday,
you know, we'll look at staring at your phone like
we look at smoking today. The problem is smoking head
Eventually we figured out unbelievable downsides. It kills you with
a zero upside, I mean slight temporary boost from nicodine,
and if you don't smoke, you don't need it.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
So there's this is different. I mean, it's comforting in
a way.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It's a it's a you know, the blanket of habit.
I wouldn't say that there's no upside, but I see
your point.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
But there's so much immediate upside from staring at your phone,
and the people that know the difference are going to
be dead soon. I mean, everybody else that grew up
with that, their whole lives are gonna be like, what.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Are you talking about? This is the only thing I've
ever done.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I don't I can't conceive of I've never felt a
different life.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So shut up.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Well, and back to the point that the author was
making the one place to start recognition, which means receiving
the information.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Whoops.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
The people distributing the information are those that profit the
most greedily from doing this to the brains of the young,
and they ain't talking.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I mean, I understand you're a recognition on an individual
or family level. But man, there's a tiny little window
here for arresting this by those of us who didn't
grow up with this technology. And when we're gone, there'll
be nobody worried about this. I don't think if you've
(27:36):
always been miserable, you don't know how miserable you are,
or I don't know, they wouldn't call themselves miserable. They
call themselves. I know my kids call themselves perfectly happy.
They're miserable when I make them stop looking at their
phone while we're on our road trip.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You've made my point. Yeah, Oh god, dang it, that
is rough. Okay, here you go.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Uh, we'll consider the twenty ten's the way we look
at the dawn of the industrial are a technological leap
that unleashed prosperity, yes, but also pollution and collapse of
the old ways of life. Only this time the pollution
is in our minds. And while conservation movements helped to
toxify our rivers lakes notions, I suspect we'll soon need
(28:20):
to consider a similar prescription for our collective mind rot.
Maybe it already exists. Let me check TikTok or chat
GPT for what it has to say.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
This is going to get fixed by the fact that
we're not going to have kids and human beings are
going to disappear. Right bebeavers have no interest in social media.
I honestly, one hundred percent believe that's likely. The most
likely scenario is we just populations dwindled down to so little,
because that's where we're screaming toward. And I can't imagine
anything changing as we head further into what you just described.
(28:51):
The you know, it's more fun to stay at home
than go out and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Here's a question for you, and I think I know
the answer, But you know how you're young, hungry, brutal
civilizations which are still having plenty of kids and are
not soft and decadent in the rest like the developed West.
They're willing to kill their way to resources and predominance
and the rest of it. But then I realized, well,
(29:18):
wait a minute, as soon as those countries get at
all prosperous, everybody gets fat.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah, yeah, and they're gonna get and they're gonna get smartphones.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
They're gonna get smartphones and Wi Fi.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
We should be dropping smartphones on some of these beleaguered
countries that we consider our enemies. That'd be the best
way to take on Al Qaeda. Drop smartphones on them
and put up a startlink so they have Wi Fi.
They quit caring about jihad by six months from now.
You're not wrong, I know.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
We got to get to Trump on the plane on
the way to Alaska. He just said something interesting. Stay tuned. Okay,
in the office with President Trump on Air Force one,
heading in, what's your initial feeling.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
How are you feeling about what you're going to get
out of this? I think we're going to do very well.
Our country is doing very well.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
We're setting records economically like we never have before, exluding
the sock markets are all at a record high. We're
taking entridians and tridions of dollars with tariffs. We're going
for a meeting with President Booton in Alaska, and I think.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
It's going to work out very well.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
And if it doesn't, I'm going to head back home
real fast.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I mean, if it doesn't, you walk I would walk
down bye bye.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Okay, We'll see well.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I don't know if saying that out loud is going
to make Putin be more measured and what I have
no idea, kind of wanted to get this on.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
I haven't heard it. I hope the juice is worth
the squeeze.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
On this clip, it's Hillary Clinton talking about how she
might recommend Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
I understand from everything I've read he very much would
like to receive the Nobel Peace Prize. And honestly, if
he could bring about the to this terrible war where
Putin is the aggressor invading a neighbor country trying to
change the borders, if he could end it without putting
(31:12):
Ukraine in a position where it had to concede its
territory to the aggressor, had to in a way validate
Putin's vision of greater Russia. But instead could really stand
up to Putin something we haven't seen. But maybe this
(31:33):
is the opportunity to make it clear that there must
be a cease fire, there will be no exchange of territory,
and that over a period of time Putin should be
actually withdrawing from the territory he seized in order to
demonstrate his good faith efforts. Let us say not to
(31:56):
threaten European security. You know, look, if we could pull
that off, if President Trump were the architect of that,
I'd nominate him for a Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
That's pretty interesting. That's not an impossible scenario. For one thing,
her talking in that you know way about Donald Trump.
You know she used to go wrong claiming that Russia
stole the election for Trump and he wasn't a legitimate president.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I saw, yeah, that's interesting. Her campaign started it so
she would know. Yeah, it is sure.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
And I heard one of my favorite punt saying yesterday
on this whole Nobel Peace Prize thing. The euro weenies
who would have never, ever, in a million years, you know,
first term, had him win the prize have now figured
out that praising him and given him awards is the
best way to get him to do things you want.
So they might give him the Nobel Peace Prize just
as a be nicer to us.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Gesture right right the hill. The beast is smart and tough.
I've always said that she's seventy seven years old. How
much sharper than Biden?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Does she sounds? My god, Hey kids, it's time again
with Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
She's been around my entire adult life She's still five
years younger than Joe Biden. Here's your host for final thoughts,
Joe Geddy.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Why not get a final thought from everybody on the
crew to wrap up this show, Let's begin with Michaelangelow
or technical director.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Michael final thought? All right, here's my biggest worry.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Putin turns out to be a look alike and that
this is a prank and Trump ends up on a
comedy show on Russian tvoy.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Putting's back in Moscow watching it.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yes, punked Putin stuff. Katie Green are esteemed Newswoman. As
a final thought, Katie, I just want to take this
opportunity to congratulate Michael Angelo for totally redeeming himself this
morning with cal Yep.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
That was good stuff. If you didn't hear it the
halfway into the first hour. I always betrayed by those I
trust the most. It'll bring you joy. Jack, you have
a final thought for us? Yeah, this is kind of
like my Super Bowl. I just I really like gu politics,
So I'm gonna be paying attention to this news story
all day long for every bit of information I can get.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, I'd like to pay attention. But the worst has
happened I feared this moment. The man cave has fallen
prey to the construction on my house. They have now
taped shut the gentleman's lounge where.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I have my couch and my TV and my whiskey.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
And it's just it's taped up like a crime scene.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I'm strung in it there, arms strung in Getty wrapping
go another grueling four hour workday.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Dare it?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
That's where I watch golf. So many people, thanks so
little time. Good Armstrong a geeddy dot com got some
great clicks there for you. Drop us a note if
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Speaker 2 (34:42):
In geeddy dot com.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
We'll see a Monday God bless America when another stunning lee.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Oh they Armstrong Eddy show me when Jack shoo Hi
and my Glendaye Helo.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
I brought you every single major story that we're kind.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Of weak, but certainly they'll try to do much better
if they're allowed.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
To come back next week.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
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