November 6, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- Oral arguments from the Supreme Court on tariffs
- Japan's bear problem & paying bills by phone
- Flight cancellations & the left vs. right
- Mamdani supporters are full of hate
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Letty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
The justification is being used for power to impose tariffs
on any product from any country in any amount for
any length of time. That seems like I'm not suggesting
it's not there, but it does seem like that's major authority,
and the basis for the claim seems to be a misfit.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
That is, Chief Justice Roberts during the oral arguments of
the hotly anticipated tariffs case yesterday at the Supreme Court.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Let me throw in the CNN headline is Trump threatens
to cut flights at forty airports. That's a slightly different
take on what is probably the biggest story of the day.
We will get to that. It's got to do it.
The government shut down coming up in a little bit.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I think the headline is CNN still exists and anybody
watches it isl of garbage.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
So there are oral arguments yesterday around this giant, giant
tariff decision, and you listened to them.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
How many hours did you listen to? Dwell?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
There were two and a half hours worth and I've
just got half an hour to go and wow, dedication. Yeah,
I'm fascinated by this stuff. I love it. It's the
road I did not travel. It's like an like a
super hardcore football fan listening to a conversation between Bill
Belichick and you know, another legendary coach.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So I just really enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
But we've all heard the caveats, right, it's difficult to
read the tea leaves of the.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Oral arguments blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
And the other thing I think a lot of people
who aren't into this don't realize is that it's not
like they flip open a binder and say, oh, oh,
it's the tariff thing, all right, let's hear the oral arguments,
and then at the end of the oral arguments, they think, yeah, yeah,
I'm sold. Like a trial, like a criminal trial might be.
They've been looking at this stuff for months, reading all
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sorts of briefs from both sides, and then amikus briefs,
which means, you know, friends of the court saying hey,
we're on this side as a respected thing tank and
here's why. And their clerks have been working like lunatics
for weeks and weeks in a week studying this stuff,
and what the oral arguments is, generally speaking, is the
justices think. You know, I want to hear from the
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lawyers involved on this point because I'm a little fuzzy
on this, or I want to make sure I've got
this right because I'm going to lower the boom and
i want to make sure my reasoning is sound. So
it doesn't tell you which way it's going to go,
but it's not useless either.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Anyway, any any before you get into the specifics of
this case, any takeaways from the justices themselves and level
terms of level of talent slash intelligence? Wow, anybody stand
out either direction? I will tell you this.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Elina Kagan, with whom I disagree about everything, is incredibly bright.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I've hear people.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
I've heard people say that, and every time I hear
her talk, I feel that way too.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Like I say, I disagree with her on virtually everything,
but I would be honored to have a conversation with her.
She is a serious, serious legal mind.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
She's just wrong.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
The idea that Clarence Thomas doesn't belong to be there.
It doesn't belong there, and is some sort of Uncle
Tom and the fact that his silence through the years
is an indication of something or other. Nothing could be
more wrong. Oh my god, Yeah he no serious, serious man. Yeah,
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you know, Katanji Brown Jackson, the newest, youngest and most
blah blah blige of the justices, is not a dope.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well, God, I would hope not. No.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
No, She's obviously very, very bright. And I'm not surprised
after we had the story yesterday about the fact that
she's decided that the decorum of the court and the
dignity of the court and.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
She's not gonna be held back.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
She's gonna speak her mind and tell her truth to
the media or whatever. Bring really strong descents where she
really kind of grandstands. She's just she looks at life
through an emotionalistic, progressive lens and comes off a little
bit that way on the bench. But she asked some
really good questions anyway, And you know, I could go
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on and on. I'm a huge Brett kavanav fan and
a huge Neil gorsicch fan in particular.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
I was I don't take it in there as much
as you do, But that Amy Coney Barrett really seems
like a.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Smart as a whip, cute as a button. Oh I'm
both going huh.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, oh boy. Anyway, mister Barday, I tip my cap
to you. Anyway, back to the actual testimony, and for
what it's worth, I've read reams now on the oral
arguments as well as listening to it. Every single headline
is virtually the same. For instance, this is Scotus blog.
Court appears dubious of Trump's tariffs. If that one's about Venezuela,
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that would not help us at all. In the Wall
Street Journal, Trump's tough day at Supreme Court puts tariffs
in jeopardy and similar no matter where you look, here's
Justice Gorsicch.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
It does seem to me, and tell me if I'm
wrong that a really key part of the context here,
if not the dispositive one for you, is the constitutional
assignment of the taxing power to Congress, the power to
reach into the pockets of the American people is just different,
and it's been different since the Founding and the Navigation Acts,
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part of the spark of the American Revolution.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
And let's see, we had another great clip of I
thought we had where's the Chief Justice? Do we not
have that one where he makes clear that there's something
very very special in our system and our history about taxation.
There was no Boston licensing Party, or there was no
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Boston quota party. That Boston Tea Party was about tax period,
and we overthrew a government because of taxation without representation.
And the problem with the government's position to me is
that they say, Okay, we have an emergency. Yeah maybe,
and AIPA, the law we've all heard about says you
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can do certain things in emergencies, doesn't mention tariffs, mentions regulation.
Maybe you could say that includes tariffs or is it
a tax I don't know. But then when you get
into taxation, that's like the giant kahuna of who does what?
When they designed our system, the power of the purse
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is Congress's. It cannot be in the hands of the king,
I mean president, and several justices said, you know, Congress
can delegate a lot of stuff, but that power we
got to be super, super careful. Here is the aforementioned
qutie pie. That's terrible, brilliant leg amy cony.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I active, that's the most misogynist thing you've ever.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Done in boll please, in both intellect and demeanor. I
find her comely. Indeed, Wow, Justice Barrett.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
I want to ask you a question about unusual and
extraordinary threat which we have not talked about yet, and
I specifically want to talk about the reciprocal tariffs these
are imposed on. I mean, these are kind of across
the board. And so is it your content, men, that
every country needed to be tariff because of threats to
the defense and industrial base. I mean it Spain, France,
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I mean I could see it with some countries. But
explain to me why as many countries needed to be
subject to the reciprocal tariff policy as are.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Somebody brought up Sweden. We've got a huge trade surplus
with Sweden. What was the emergency there?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Well, remember when the original list came out, it was
like every country on Earth, right, and there were different numbers,
And then they had that formula for how they came
up for the number for each of the one hundred
countries or however many it was, and it was a
fairly complicated formula no one could quite understand. But yeah,
they couldn't all fall under the same emergency, right, right,
Let's flip to a forty four. Michael, it's b John Sower,
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who is the attorney for the President on his side,
and the aforementioned Justice Kagan jawing.
Speaker 8 (08:56):
The president has to make a formal declaration of a
national emergency, which subjects him to particularly intensive oversight by Congress,
repeadio natural lapsing, repeated review reports, and so forth. It says,
you have to consult with Congress to the end of
the maximum.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I mean, you yourself think that the declaration of emergency
is unreviewable. And even if it's not unreviewable, it's of
course the kind of determination that this Court would grant
considerable deference to the to the president on. So that
doesn't seem like much of a constraint, but it is.
And that you know, we've had cases recently which deals
with the president's emergency powers, and it turns out we're
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in emergencies everything all the time, about like half the world.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Yeah, yeah, which ought to bother you if you're a
lover of liberty, this constant state of emergency. The other
really interesting point that a couple of the justices made
was that if we were to play a little fast
and loose with granting this power of taxation in tariffs
or taxes to the president, you can't claw that back
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without a two two thirds majority in both houses, because
once you grant a president that sort of power, a
no president either party is going to give it back willingly.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So you've got to.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Be willing to or able to overcome a presidential veto
to claw that power back to Congress, which a couple
of the justices referred.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
To as a one way ratchet.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
One final note, Justice Alito, who I also am a
big fan of, he seemed much more sympathetic to the
president than the others in forty six.
Speaker 9 (10:34):
Can you say that this is not this case does
not that these executive orders do not address an unusual
and extraordinary threat.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I understand that argument. I suppose that.
Speaker 9 (10:48):
The facts were that it was suppose that there was
an imminent threat of war, not a declared war, but
an imminent threat of war with a very powerful enemy
whose economy was heavily dependent on US trade. Could a
president under this provision impose a tariff as a way
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of trying to stave off that war? Or would you say, no,
the president lacks that power.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, The answer was long. But Alito was finding a
way to He was trying to find a way to
protect what somebody else referred to as the President's toolkit.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
So you said yesterday, I don't remember if you said
it on the air or now. You think Justice Roberts
is really going to try to get a nine to
zero vote on this against Yeah, the Trump having the
power to do.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
This, right.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I reached out to some of my favorite legal authorities
and they said, yeah, he would like that, but it's unlikely.
So you know, it's it's going to be interesting to
see play out. And they're going to get to the decision,
I'm told, not next June like they usually do because
it's too big a tours. Well, didn't they need to
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get to it like eight months ago would have been helpful.
Takes the time to write them legal briefs.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Trump said yesterday in his interview with Brett Bair that
this is one of the biggest decisions the Court's going
to make in his entire administration.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Well, and Trump said, yeah, if it goes the wrong way,
it'll cause a worldwide depression for the rest of our lives,
which I actually laughed out loud.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
I hope he's wrong, it won't. Well, what's going to
be the unraveling of the tariffs?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Though?
Speaker 5 (12:30):
If the Court does decide the president can't do this?
How they how do they unring the bell? What's that process?
That is unclear? Might have to go back to lower
courts to adjudicate that issue. Where's its way back to
the Supreme Court?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Somebody might hint, take Congress, wonder if you freaking do
your jobs and come up with a solution. But all
kinds of companies have paid, you know, lost tons of
revenue or had to adjust prices in way and then
consumer and then domestic, yeah, foreign end, domestic and consumers
have paid you know, X thousand dollars more for this
or that because the derf. Do you get your money back?
Or how does that all work?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Nobody knows. Nobody knows. Again, we got more of the ways.
Stay here.
Speaker 10 (13:10):
Japan is grappling with a grizzly problem, deadly bear attacks.
A record twelve people have been killed in more than
one hundred barrencounters since April alone, and issues so serious
the country's pacifist military has taken the extraordinary step to
deploy forces to the northern Akita and Iwate prefectures, arms
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with shields, bear spray and traps.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Watch out, bears are gonna go Pearl Harbor on you
what they got a national emergency?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Bear attacks in Japan Bear exactly.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Right, there's one. Yeah, Japanese bear attack. The name of
my new band. We're going to tour with Toad the
wet Sprocket And what's another good multi word panic at
the disco. Yeah, in an all wordy banned festival, Japanese betack.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
What an interesting situation.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
They rarely used their military for anything. We trained for
a Chinese invasion or attack in the United States. Again,
we've trained for all these things, but and got a
lot of how to handle bears.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
While we're watching China, our bears rose up. Yeah, you
know what, Donald JA got very little credit when he
was in Asia a couple of weeks ago for brow beaten.
A number of our allies to spend more on defense
for God's sake, to get beefed up, gets strong because
they're gonna need it because of bear tas No No,
I was thinking more in terms of China.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
But a couple of things I want to get on
before we have to take a break again. I do
want to get into this person from the Heritage Foundation
that resigned yesterday so unhappy about the leader of that
conservative organation backing Tucker and Nick Fuentes the way he did.
Now he has apologized even further. That's quite the interesting
inter intro a conservative argument that's going on there.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
But and it's kind of a cool thing too, because
we police are crazies, unlike the left.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
We've been talking about.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Affordability is like the word of the last forty eight
hours with the election everything like that Trump administration just
announced there's going to be a big weight loss drug
price announcement coming today. That is classic Trump right there.
Nation of fat people who want their fat drugs cheaper,
that's what Trumb's thinking. And I'm going to announce that
we're going to cut those weight down and you can
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afford your don't be fat drug.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
That's a nice way to step on yesterday's headlines. Yeah, yeah,
that's a good one.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Came across this who's in charge of security at the
Louver me The Louver Museum's surveillance password was Louver.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Holy crap. They shouldn't have put me in charge because
that's a way things. Isn't that something that's like the
guest password at your dentist's office, right?
Speaker 6 (16:06):
You know?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
And that's the security password.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
That's pretty funny. How much time I got, Michael, depends
how you keep eating. Yeah, about one minute, though.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I know we came up with a word for this,
when you're flummished by some sort of technical thing and
you just and it's the feeling you get when you're
having that, it's just it's its only unique feeling.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
I think we decided on texhaustion.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I was trying to pay a bill online yesterday and
you go, you had to go through like and you
have to pay it this way, and I had to
go through like ninety steps to get to the end.
It took probably fifteen minutes at least. Wow, you know,
press one for this, press two for that, and then
they say it and blah blah blah. And at the
end it was we'll send you a code. You have
to type in the code to show that you and
you know this is the right phone. And every time
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I typed in the code, it would read back the
wrong numbers. I would type in six oh three nine
and it would say five oh two six is the
wrong number.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I typed in, you bastards.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Anyway, I did it like three or four times, and
I was getting so mad.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I thought I was going to punch a hole in
the wall. That feeling is my least favorite feeling.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Yeah, the scourge of the modern man.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
There's nobody to complain to. That's what's so mad thing.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
About it, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 11 (17:21):
The impact here will be huge for the American traveler.
And then Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy just said if there
is no deal ending the government shutdown, this policy will
go into effects.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Starting Friday morning.
Speaker 11 (17:33):
To put this simply, the FAA is imposing a ten
percent cut the flights at forty major airports across the country.
Those specific airports remain undisclosed. So what the FIA is
talking about here is equivalent to canceling about forty five
hundred flights a day.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Yeah, that was undisclosed. The list is now out and
we'll get to that in a second. Forty five hundred
flights a day starting tomorrow. Forty airports, as Joe predicted,
it's not going to be, you know, tiny little airports.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I'm not I'm going to read all forty. I only
need to hit you with.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
The couple Hartsfield in Atlanta, Denver International, the Big I
Report in Chicago, lax I can go through the whole list,
but that should be enough to let you realize it's
going to be a giant mess.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Well, and I guarantee Phoenix and Chance K you're in there,
and they're all on here. Every bigger report you can
possibly think of SFO.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
You know, if I'm going to do local Oakland International.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Somewhere around forty five hundred flights, it'll be canceled tomorrow.
This is when the shutdown has reached the Okay, that's
enough point, I think for everybody.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yes, And there's going to be some political pressure now.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Mark Alpern wrote in his newsletter he doesn't think the
political pressure will start to mount until it gets closer
to Thanksgiving. But every day we get closer to the biggest,
biggest travel a week of the year, more and more
people are going to get angry or anger. You can't
have forty five hundred flights canceled every day for three weeks, though,
can you?
Speaker 4 (19:05):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And I disagree with Mark.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
My reaction was immediate and strong to the news. I
don't need it to happen for a few days before
I realize what it means.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
I think this is gonna be the forcing mechanism what's
interesting is there's been a bunch of reporting that the
Democrats were ready to.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
Cave.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
I don't know if that's fair or not, but give
in and and enough of them, we're going to come
across to sign on to open the government back up again.
Until they had such a overwhelmingly good day on Tuesday,
bigger than they even thought. And then enough people inside
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the caucus said, wait a second, we got the upper hand,
they're on the back foot. Now's not the time to cave.
And so they decided we ain't got a cave. And
now we're back to square one, with both sides thinking
the other side.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Is getting the worst of it.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
It's interesting on the the same day that Trump said
and what was reported as a very quiet room when
he came out and said, we lost because of the shutdown.
We're getting blamed for the shutdown. That's why we lost.
We need to end this. And everybody, all the Republicans
of the norm are like dead quiet, like uh oh,
the President has just said it's our fault.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
So where do we go now? I don't even agree.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I mean, it may have been a factor, but please
span Berger didn't beat winsome Seers in Virginia because of
the shutdown.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I don't agree either.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
The real point is that you know he took any
cover they have for blaming the Democrats. I mean, if
the biggest political voice in America as a Republican, says
it's our fault, doesn't help your argument, right.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
I Actually I was listening to NPR to punish myself
for the bad things I've done. And they had a
moderate congress guy from Colorado on and he's part of
the problem solver's caucus, and they're trying to come to
some sort of common rise and reop the government. But
and I thought, Okay, surely, dude, you will say something
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like the Republicans are just for following what the Democrats
passed two years ago. The Democrats have said no, no, no, no, no,
we want more to reopen the government.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
But he never enunciated that.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
I'm not sure I've heard any Republican enunciate that with
any clarity.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I haven't either. Yeah, you're bad at your jobs.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I realize you know your job mostly is to legislate,
but let's face it, the big part of your job
is to get elected and to communicate with the people
and help them understand your policies and the Republican.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Party is just bad at it.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
You know, I could go through the list of airports
that they're going to cut ten percent of flights just
based on cities.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Were on.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Salt Lake City International, San Francisco, Saddle Tacoma, San Diego, Phoenix, Portland.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
We don't know any states in the Chicago area. Yeah,
oh yeah, okay, under for Chicago. O' sorry, sorry for
saying shout.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Out to our friends in the Yeah, Oakland. Hansome is
shaking his head.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I know he's angry with me. Yes again as usual.
Oh there he is, glowering into the camera. Lax Vegas.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Yes, I could go on and on, but yeah, all
the bins, all the big airports are cutting ten percent
of their flights.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
That's many hundreds of flights. Oh god. And you know
how that affects.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Things, So everybody, people that have to get somewhere are
going to have to get onto a different flight, which
makes those more crowded, which makes all the flights more expensive.
And it's cascading is the word of the day. Joe
came up with on this whole thing. And people decide,
screw all drive and all the rental cars, are.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Used up right well, And picture flying during the holiday
season and all those empty seats. Wait a minute, there
aren't any. So what are you going to do with
the ten percent of air travel that now has no seat?
Where are you going to put them in the overhead bin?
Have them walk? They'll they'll have to go days later,
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which is not the way holidays work.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Really, No, it's not you show up Sunday morning for Thanksgiving.
It's not the same thing. I uh don't think that's
gonna be a problem. I would be shocked if this
doesn't get worked out in the next forty eight hours.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I hope you're right.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
I just don't think there's a chance they're gonna let
forty five hundred flights a day be canceled and put
up with the noise that that is. No parties, Schumer
and Trumper, whoever who is leading this goat rodeo on
either side, are going to get together and say, Okay,
what do we do? How do we I'll let you
save face, you let me save face.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
We got to end this.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I'll say something bad about AOC once a week. No,
that would actually help her, you know, because that's what
this is all about, is Schumer getting primary by AOC
and them thinking, yeah, the expiration of our extra subsidies
to a Obamacare which we signed into law, fighting against
that and claiming it's something evil the Republicans are doing
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that looks really good for us.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
So it's all just dishonest politics.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
But again, without good messaging, you can't to communicate that
to people. But I suspect you're right that it will
end by the end of the week.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
I'm just so discouraged by the state of our government.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
How would you not be, and you know, and just
our politics and our culture and everything like that to
that point. Yesterday, I was in my liberal college town,
like all college towns are, and I was going to
pick up a friend of mine. We were going to
go eat lunch, and he said, drive your cyber truck.
(24:46):
It'll drive my neighbors crazy. And then he told me
a story about a friend of his from one of
your red counties in California showed up in his pickup
truck that had like Trump stickers on on it and
all that sort of stuff. I mean, like a full
on Maga stickered up truck was parked in his driveway,
(25:07):
and he said the neighbors talk to his wife because
they didn't want to talk to him because I knew
he was sympathetic toward to God. Neighbors talk to his
wife and we're having a conversation of like, what do
we do?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
What should we do?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
His response was, what you do is you ignore somebody
else's truck in somebody else's driveway. I mean, what do
you mean what you do? But I just thought that
was such a reach down.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Get hold of your panties, pull them in this direction,
then that direction, and that should unwadd them.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Now each side likes to claim the other side is worse,
but I really do think in general, Oh, people on
the right think the people on the left are wrong.
People on the left think the people on the right
are evil. You think I'm evil because if I see
a truck in my neighborhood and in part next door,
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and it's got the coexist and Kamala Harris Biden, Harris
Mumpers singing on the steve, I roll my eyes and
that's the only that's the last of me thinking about it.
A lot of go about your life, right, I wouldn't
get with my other names, sek what should we do?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
What should we do? What the hell are you talking about?
That's hilarious, I know, isn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I just see the non hilarious side of that way
of thinking coming up in a little bit. We've got
some audio of people, including Mom Donnie supporters who may
well rouse you to want to get into the fight.
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Speaker 5 (28:08):
Try to picture this a group of neighbors knocking on
the door to talk to the wife to say, we're
trying to decide what to do about that truck that's
in your driveway with the Trump bumper sticker. I would
have wanted to play along, precious. Oh yeah, it's boy.
What are our options things to do? I suppose I
don't know. We could set him on sugar?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Should we call the police?
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Advocate that I think we should call the police, go
them into calling nine one one.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I think we should.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
I'm calling the report a pickup truck with a very
hostile bumper sticker in a driveway in my neighborhood, maybe
so that nine to one one tape would exist and
leak its way into the media.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Do you suppose they should close the local schools until
it leaves? And I'm sorry, you know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
It's the person in the truck doing something now, it's
the very presence of the truck that bothers us some
up moral gadget I don't understand. Is it parked illegally?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Is it now? It's got a Trump bumper sticker on it.
What shouldn't we do? What should we go hiding those
bush ears and just sit there exactly.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Arm yourselves hiding the bush keep an eye on it.
You need to work on shifts. So nobody get lets
the truck out of its site all night long, you weirdos. Okay,
we got more on the way. Stay here, Armstrong.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
When the day starts with Dick Cheney being dead, it
ends with mom Donnie winning.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Yes, Oh I'm so happy. All right, that's a lefty
woman is celebrating. Well, it's clear what she's celebrating, Big
mum Donny fan. Here's another mum Donnie fan in New
York City, real.
Speaker 12 (29:56):
Lostart Stanisic Califate of New York starts today.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Sharia law starts today. Islamic Caliphate of New York. Zoran
our brother in Islam.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
So being happy that Dick Cheney died the same day
socialists got elected mayor in New York is It's one
thing to have those feelings, and it's another thing decide.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
To post it.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
You know, you wouldn't think you'd be the sort of
person that ever posts glee over anyone's death. But the
more disturbing one is celebrating the Caliphate is coming. What
in the world, Yeah, yeah, she said the quiet part
out loud.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
There are a number of Muslim uh supremacists Islamists if
you prefer the term, who are very happy about Mamdani's
election uh for a variety of reasons, mostly having to
do with establishing a worldwide caliphate and overthrowing democracy, Christianity
and Judaism.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
More on that to come headline.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
There it is more arrests have been made as part
of that ISIS terrorist plot against LGBTQ plus minus over
the power three bars on Halloween. According to the acting
US Attorney for the District of New Jersey, the arrests
in New Jersey were a couple of Muslim fellas who
(31:24):
were on their way to Newark Liberty International Airport to
flee to Turkey because their buddies in Michigan had been arrested.
These guys had actually traveled to Michigan to discuss shooting
up gay bars with the guys who got arrested the
other day. In Michigan, two of the guys pledged themselves
(31:47):
to ISIS post for photos in front of an ISIS
flag planning in terrorist attech on US soil, all of
them I believe, in their twenties. Yeah, so well done, FBI.
It's a testament to the great work that agency and
(32:08):
others do that kept us protected.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Anyway, on that topic, here's somebody who has only dimly
aware of Jennifer Welch. She is, she was known Bravo TV,
one of those home many home shows.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But she's a.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Way way lefty, like a bitter, nasty, angry lefty. In
her far left podcast, I think it's We've had it.
I think is the name of it is a big
deal on the far left. I guess this audio is
not great. I will interpret it as necessary. Here's Jennifer Welch.
Speaker 12 (32:48):
Means live.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Journey. Okay, So what she said was, look, we're surrounded
by a lot of white people. Americans have no culture
except for multiculturalism. White people need to be taught this
(33:17):
crusty white people need to learn how to embrace it.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
So she's a self hating white person.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
There is no American culture except for modern multiculturalism, says
this Jenner for Welsh Monster, America hating zenophile ignoramus. The
idea that we don't have a culture. That the ignorance
(33:44):
is astonishing, never mind the political perversity of it. American
culture has been so dominant both you know culture as
people refer to it, arts, and entertainment that sort of thing.
But American political culture, the culture of free speech and religion, entrepreneurialism,
(34:09):
individual rights, all of it has been so incredibly successful
and popular around the world. People like you used to say,
our culture is too dominant in the world. We need
to not dominate other cultures being less entertaining or something.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
The fact that you can go to any corner of
the world and there's a McDonald's and somebody wearing Levi's
jeans waiting in line for a big mac is, you.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Know, and people yearning to breathe free and speak freely
and come to the United States literally by the billions.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah, because of our culture. Maybe the thing we take.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
The most for granted is the lack of corruption in
our culture compared to other countries, because man, that's a
hard thing to get going, yeah, and a tough thing
to get back if you lose it.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
And one more time, and I'm borrowing a little from
Samuel Hunting on this, but culture here's how Here's what
culture is. It's how we do things around here. It's
not just your native dance and your traditional clothing that
you throw on at your national holidays. It is the
relationship between people and their government, between husbands and wives,
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children and their teachers. It is our arts and entertainment,
but it's also free speech is part of our culture.
The freedom of religion is an incredibly important part of
our culture. The fact that we don't have government corruption
on the level of other people. How we do things
around here is our culture. And for this malignant ignoramus
(35:37):
to claim that Americans have no culture except for multiculturalism,
she's evil, evil and ignorant.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
What was the name of your band? Gonna be Japanese
Bear Attack? Japanese Bear Attack. That's right, Yeah, I'm gotta
remember that. That's a good one. Great logo.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Katie brought us the news that the year's closest. I'm
thinking it'll be a samurai like protecting itself as it
is beset by a bear.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
That'll be our logo. Katie told us about the years
close to super Moon the other day.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
The results of that are quite amazing to me. I
want to work that into hour three. The way that
seems to affect people. According to a couple of medical
professionals I talk to, I know, seems crazy, doesn't I
So hope you can get our three if you don't
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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Letty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
The justification is being used for power to impose tariffs
on any product from any country in any amount for
any length of time. That seems like I'm not suggesting
it's not there, but it does seem like that's major authority,
and the basis for the claim seems to be a misfit.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
That is, Chief Justice Roberts during the oral arguments of
the hotly anticipated tariffs case yesterday at the Supreme Court.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Let me throw in the CNN headline is Trump threatens
to cut flights at forty airports. That's a slightly different
take on what is probably the biggest story of the day.
We will get to that. It's got to do it.
The government shut down coming up in a little bit.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I think the headline is CNN still exists and anybody
watches it isl of garbage.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
So there are oral arguments yesterday around this giant, giant
tariff decision, and you listened to them.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
How many hours did you listen to? Dwell?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
There were two and a half hours worth and I've
just got half an hour to go and wow, dedication. Yeah,
I'm fascinated by this stuff. I love it. It's the
road I did not travel. It's like an like a
super hardcore football fan listening to a conversation between Bill
Belichick and you know, another legendary coach.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So I just really enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
But we've all heard the caveats, right, it's difficult to
read the tea leaves of the.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Oral arguments blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
And the other thing I think a lot of people
who aren't into this don't realize is that it's not
like they flip open a binder and say, oh, oh,
it's the tariff thing, all right, let's hear the oral arguments,
and then at the end of the oral arguments, they think, yeah, yeah,
I'm sold. Like a trial, like a criminal trial might be.
They've been looking at this stuff for months, reading all
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sorts of briefs from both sides, and then amikus briefs,
which means, you know, friends of the court saying hey,
we're on this side as a respected thing tank and
here's why. And their clerks have been working like lunatics
for weeks and weeks in a week studying this stuff,
and what the oral arguments is, generally speaking, is the
justices think. You know, I want to hear from the
(02:35):
lawyers involved on this point because I'm a little fuzzy
on this, or I want to make sure I've got
this right because I'm going to lower the boom and
i want to make sure my reasoning is sound. So
it doesn't tell you which way it's going to go,
but it's not useless either.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Anyway, any any before you get into the specifics of
this case, any takeaways from the justices themselves and level
terms of level of talent slash intelligence? Wow, anybody stand
out either direction? I will tell you this.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Elina Kagan, with whom I disagree about everything, is incredibly bright.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I've hear people.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
I've heard people say that, and every time I hear
her talk, I feel that way too.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Like I say, I disagree with her on virtually everything,
but I would be honored to have a conversation with her.
She is a serious, serious legal mind.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
She's just wrong.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
The idea that Clarence Thomas doesn't belong to be there.
It doesn't belong there, and is some sort of Uncle
Tom and the fact that his silence through the years
is an indication of something or other. Nothing could be
more wrong. Oh my god, Yeah he no serious, serious man. Yeah,
(03:57):
you know, Katanji Brown Jackson, the newest, youngest and most
blah blah blige of the justices, is not a dope.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well, God, I would hope not. No.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
No, She's obviously very, very bright. And I'm not surprised
after we had the story yesterday about the fact that
she's decided that the decorum of the court and the
dignity of the court and.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
She's not gonna be held back.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
She's gonna speak her mind and tell her truth to
the media or whatever. Bring really strong descents where she
really kind of grandstands. She's just she looks at life
through an emotionalistic, progressive lens and comes off a little
bit that way on the bench. But she asked some
really good questions anyway, And you know, I could go
(04:46):
on and on. I'm a huge Brett kavanav fan and
a huge Neil gorsicch fan in particular.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
I was I don't take it in there as much
as you do, But that Amy Coney Barrett really seems
like a.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Smart as a whip, cute as a button. Oh I'm
both going huh.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, oh boy. Anyway, mister Barday, I tip my cap
to you. Anyway, back to the actual testimony, and for
what it's worth, I've read reams now on the oral
arguments as well as listening to it. Every single headline
is virtually the same. For instance, this is Scotus blog.
Court appears dubious of Trump's tariffs. If that one's about Venezuela,
(05:26):
that would not help us at all. In the Wall
Street Journal, Trump's tough day at Supreme Court puts tariffs
in jeopardy and similar no matter where you look, here's
Justice Gorsicch.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
It does seem to me, and tell me if I'm
wrong that a really key part of the context here,
if not the dispositive one for you, is the constitutional
assignment of the taxing power to Congress, the power to
reach into the pockets of the American people is just different,
and it's been different since the Founding and the Navigation Acts,
(06:00):
part of the spark of the American Revolution.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
And let's see, we had another great clip of I
thought we had where's the Chief Justice? Do we not
have that one where he makes clear that there's something
very very special in our system and our history about taxation.
There was no Boston licensing Party, or there was no
(06:29):
Boston quota party. That Boston Tea Party was about tax period,
and we overthrew a government because of taxation without representation.
And the problem with the government's position to me is
that they say, Okay, we have an emergency. Yeah maybe,
and AIPA, the law we've all heard about says you
(06:50):
can do certain things in emergencies, doesn't mention tariffs, mentions regulation.
Maybe you could say that includes tariffs or is it
a tax I don't know. But then when you get
into taxation, that's like the giant kahuna of who does what?
When they designed our system, the power of the purse
(07:12):
is Congress's. It cannot be in the hands of the king,
I mean president, and several justices said, you know, Congress
can delegate a lot of stuff, but that power we
got to be super, super careful. Here is the aforementioned
qutie pie. That's terrible, brilliant leg amy cony.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I active, that's the most misogynist thing you've ever.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Done in boll please, in both intellect and demeanor. I
find her comely. Indeed, Wow, Justice Barrett.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
I want to ask you a question about unusual and
extraordinary threat which we have not talked about yet, and
I specifically want to talk about the reciprocal tariffs these
are imposed on. I mean, these are kind of across
the board. And so is it your content, men, that
every country needed to be tariff because of threats to
the defense and industrial base. I mean it Spain, France,
(08:09):
I mean I could see it with some countries. But
explain to me why as many countries needed to be
subject to the reciprocal tariff policy as are.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Somebody brought up Sweden. We've got a huge trade surplus
with Sweden. What was the emergency there?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Well, remember when the original list came out, it was
like every country on Earth, right, and there were different numbers,
And then they had that formula for how they came
up for the number for each of the one hundred
countries or however many it was, and it was a
fairly complicated formula no one could quite understand. But yeah,
they couldn't all fall under the same emergency, right, right,
Let's flip to a forty four. Michael, it's b John Sower,
(08:49):
who is the attorney for the President on his side,
and the aforementioned Justice Kagan jawing.
Speaker 8 (08:56):
The president has to make a formal declaration of a
national emergency, which subjects him to particularly intensive oversight by Congress,
repeadio natural lapsing, repeated review reports, and so forth. It says,
you have to consult with Congress to the end of
the maximum.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I mean, you yourself think that the declaration of emergency
is unreviewable. And even if it's not unreviewable, it's of
course the kind of determination that this Court would grant
considerable deference to the to the president on. So that
doesn't seem like much of a constraint, but it is.
And that you know, we've had cases recently which deals
with the president's emergency powers, and it turns out we're
(09:30):
in emergencies everything all the time, about like half the world.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Yeah, yeah, which ought to bother you if you're a
lover of liberty, this constant state of emergency. The other
really interesting point that a couple of the justices made
was that if we were to play a little fast
and loose with granting this power of taxation in tariffs
or taxes to the president, you can't claw that back
(09:59):
without a two two thirds majority in both houses, because
once you grant a president that sort of power, a
no president either party is going to give it back willingly.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
So you've got to.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Be willing to or able to overcome a presidential veto
to claw that power back to Congress, which a couple
of the justices referred.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
To as a one way ratchet.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
One final note, Justice Alito, who I also am a
big fan of, he seemed much more sympathetic to the
president than the others in forty six.
Speaker 9 (10:34):
Can you say that this is not this case does
not that these executive orders do not address an unusual
and extraordinary threat.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I understand that argument. I suppose that.
Speaker 9 (10:48):
The facts were that it was suppose that there was
an imminent threat of war, not a declared war, but
an imminent threat of war with a very powerful enemy
whose economy was heavily dependent on US trade. Could a
president under this provision impose a tariff as a way
(11:10):
of trying to stave off that war? Or would you say, no,
the president lacks that power.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, The answer was long. But Alito was finding a
way to He was trying to find a way to
protect what somebody else referred to as the President's toolkit.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
So you said yesterday, I don't remember if you said
it on the air or now. You think Justice Roberts
is really going to try to get a nine to
zero vote on this against Yeah, the Trump having the
power to do.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
This, right.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I reached out to some of my favorite legal authorities
and they said, yeah, he would like that, but it's unlikely.
So you know, it's it's going to be interesting to
see play out. And they're going to get to the decision,
I'm told, not next June like they usually do because
it's too big a tours. Well, didn't they need to
(12:02):
get to it like eight months ago would have been helpful.
Takes the time to write them legal briefs.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Trump said yesterday in his interview with Brett Bair that
this is one of the biggest decisions the Court's going
to make in his entire administration.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Well, and Trump said, yeah, if it goes the wrong way,
it'll cause a worldwide depression for the rest of our lives,
which I actually laughed out loud.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
I hope he's wrong, it won't. Well, what's going to
be the unraveling of the tariffs?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Though?
Speaker 5 (12:30):
If the Court does decide the president can't do this?
How they how do they unring the bell? What's that process?
That is unclear? Might have to go back to lower
courts to adjudicate that issue. Where's its way back to
the Supreme Court?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Somebody might hint, take Congress, wonder if you freaking do
your jobs and come up with a solution. But all
kinds of companies have paid, you know, lost tons of
revenue or had to adjust prices in way and then
consumer and then domestic, yeah, foreign end, domestic and consumers
have paid you know, X thousand dollars more for this
or that because the derf. Do you get your money back?
Or how does that all work?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Nobody knows. Nobody knows. Again, we got more of the ways.
Stay here.
Speaker 10 (13:10):
Japan is grappling with a grizzly problem, deadly bear attacks.
A record twelve people have been killed in more than
one hundred barrencounters since April alone, and issues so serious
the country's pacifist military has taken the extraordinary step to
deploy forces to the northern Akita and Iwate prefectures, arms
(13:32):
with shields, bear spray and traps.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Watch out, bears are gonna go Pearl Harbor on you
what they got a national emergency?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Bear attacks in Japan Bear exactly.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Right, there's one. Yeah, Japanese bear attack. The name of
my new band. We're going to tour with Toad the
wet Sprocket And what's another good multi word panic at
the disco. Yeah, in an all wordy banned festival, Japanese betack.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
What an interesting situation.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
They rarely used their military for anything. We trained for
a Chinese invasion or attack in the United States. Again,
we've trained for all these things, but and got a
lot of how to handle bears.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
While we're watching China, our bears rose up. Yeah, you
know what, Donald JA got very little credit when he
was in Asia a couple of weeks ago for brow beaten.
A number of our allies to spend more on defense
for God's sake, to get beefed up, gets strong because
they're gonna need it because of bear tas No No,
I was thinking more in terms of China.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
But a couple of things I want to get on
before we have to take a break again. I do
want to get into this person from the Heritage Foundation
that resigned yesterday so unhappy about the leader of that
conservative organation backing Tucker and Nick Fuentes the way he did.
Now he has apologized even further. That's quite the interesting
inter intro a conservative argument that's going on there.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
But and it's kind of a cool thing too, because
we police are crazies, unlike the left.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
We've been talking about.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Affordability is like the word of the last forty eight
hours with the election everything like that Trump administration just
announced there's going to be a big weight loss drug
price announcement coming today. That is classic Trump right there.
Nation of fat people who want their fat drugs cheaper,
that's what Trumb's thinking. And I'm going to announce that
we're going to cut those weight down and you can
(15:36):
afford your don't be fat drug.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
That's a nice way to step on yesterday's headlines. Yeah, yeah,
that's a good one.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Came across this who's in charge of security at the
Louver me The Louver Museum's surveillance password was Louver.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Holy crap. They shouldn't have put me in charge because
that's a way things. Isn't that something that's like the
guest password at your dentist's office, right?
Speaker 6 (16:06):
You know?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
And that's the security password.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
That's pretty funny. How much time I got, Michael, depends
how you keep eating. Yeah, about one minute, though.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I know we came up with a word for this,
when you're flummished by some sort of technical thing and
you just and it's the feeling you get when you're
having that, it's just it's its only unique feeling.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
I think we decided on texhaustion.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I was trying to pay a bill online yesterday and
you go, you had to go through like and you
have to pay it this way, and I had to
go through like ninety steps to get to the end.
It took probably fifteen minutes at least. Wow, you know,
press one for this, press two for that, and then
they say it and blah blah blah. And at the
end it was we'll send you a code. You have
to type in the code to show that you and
you know this is the right phone. And every time
(16:53):
I typed in the code, it would read back the
wrong numbers. I would type in six oh three nine
and it would say five oh two six is the
wrong number.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I typed in, you bastards.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Anyway, I did it like three or four times, and
I was getting so mad.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I thought I was going to punch a hole in
the wall. That feeling is my least favorite feeling.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Yeah, the scourge of the modern man.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
There's nobody to complain to. That's what's so mad thing.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
About it, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 11 (17:21):
The impact here will be huge for the American traveler.
And then Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy just said if there
is no deal ending the government shutdown, this policy will
go into effects.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Starting Friday morning.
Speaker 11 (17:33):
To put this simply, the FAA is imposing a ten
percent cut the flights at forty major airports across the country.
Those specific airports remain undisclosed. So what the FIA is
talking about here is equivalent to canceling about forty five
hundred flights a day.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Yeah, that was undisclosed. The list is now out and
we'll get to that in a second. Forty five hundred
flights a day starting tomorrow. Forty airports, as Joe predicted,
it's not going to be, you know, tiny little airports.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I'm not I'm going to read all forty. I only
need to hit you with.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
The couple Hartsfield in Atlanta, Denver International, the Big I
Report in Chicago, lax I can go through the whole list,
but that should be enough to let you realize it's
going to be a giant mess.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Well, and I guarantee Phoenix and Chance K you're in there,
and they're all on here. Every bigger report you can
possibly think of SFO.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
You know, if I'm going to do local Oakland International.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Somewhere around forty five hundred flights, it'll be canceled tomorrow.
This is when the shutdown has reached the Okay, that's
enough point, I think for everybody.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yes, And there's going to be some political pressure now.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Mark Alpern wrote in his newsletter he doesn't think the
political pressure will start to mount until it gets closer
to Thanksgiving. But every day we get closer to the biggest,
biggest travel a week of the year, more and more
people are going to get angry or anger. You can't
have forty five hundred flights canceled every day for three weeks, though,
can you?
Speaker 4 (19:05):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And I disagree with Mark.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
My reaction was immediate and strong to the news. I
don't need it to happen for a few days before
I realize what it means.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
I think this is gonna be the forcing mechanism what's
interesting is there's been a bunch of reporting that the
Democrats were ready to.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
Cave.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
I don't know if that's fair or not, but give
in and and enough of them, we're going to come
across to sign on to open the government back up again.
Until they had such a overwhelmingly good day on Tuesday,
bigger than they even thought. And then enough people inside
(19:46):
the caucus said, wait a second, we got the upper hand,
they're on the back foot. Now's not the time to cave.
And so they decided we ain't got a cave. And
now we're back to square one, with both sides thinking
the other side.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Is getting the worst of it.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
It's interesting on the the same day that Trump said
and what was reported as a very quiet room when
he came out and said, we lost because of the shutdown.
We're getting blamed for the shutdown. That's why we lost.
We need to end this. And everybody, all the Republicans
of the norm are like dead quiet, like uh oh,
the President has just said it's our fault.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
So where do we go now? I don't even agree.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
I mean, it may have been a factor, but please
span Berger didn't beat winsome Seers in Virginia because of
the shutdown.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I don't agree either.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
The real point is that you know he took any
cover they have for blaming the Democrats. I mean, if
the biggest political voice in America as a Republican, says
it's our fault, doesn't help your argument, right.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
I Actually I was listening to NPR to punish myself
for the bad things I've done. And they had a
moderate congress guy from Colorado on and he's part of
the problem solver's caucus, and they're trying to come to
some sort of common rise and reop the government. But
and I thought, Okay, surely, dude, you will say something
(21:06):
like the Republicans are just for following what the Democrats
passed two years ago. The Democrats have said no, no, no, no, no,
we want more to reopen the government.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
But he never enunciated that.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
I'm not sure I've heard any Republican enunciate that with
any clarity.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I haven't either. Yeah, you're bad at your jobs.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I realize you know your job mostly is to legislate,
but let's face it, the big part of your job
is to get elected and to communicate with the people
and help them understand your policies and the Republican.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Party is just bad at it.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
You know, I could go through the list of airports
that they're going to cut ten percent of flights just
based on cities.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Were on.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Salt Lake City International, San Francisco, Saddle Tacoma, San Diego, Phoenix, Portland.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
We don't know any states in the Chicago area. Yeah,
oh yeah, okay, under for Chicago. O' sorry, sorry for
saying shout.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Out to our friends in the Yeah, Oakland. Hansome is
shaking his head.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I know he's angry with me. Yes again as usual.
Oh there he is, glowering into the camera. Lax Vegas.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
Yes, I could go on and on, but yeah, all
the bins, all the big airports are cutting ten percent
of their flights.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
That's many hundreds of flights. Oh god. And you know
how that affects.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Things, So everybody, people that have to get somewhere are
going to have to get onto a different flight, which
makes those more crowded, which makes all the flights more expensive.
And it's cascading is the word of the day. Joe
came up with on this whole thing. And people decide,
screw all drive and all the rental cars, are.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Used up right well, And picture flying during the holiday
season and all those empty seats. Wait a minute, there
aren't any. So what are you going to do with
the ten percent of air travel that now has no seat?
Where are you going to put them in the overhead bin?
Have them walk? They'll they'll have to go days later,
(23:09):
which is not the way holidays work.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Really, No, it's not you show up Sunday morning for Thanksgiving.
It's not the same thing. I uh don't think that's
gonna be a problem. I would be shocked if this
doesn't get worked out in the next forty eight hours.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I hope you're right.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
I just don't think there's a chance they're gonna let
forty five hundred flights a day be canceled and put
up with the noise that that is. No parties, Schumer
and Trumper, whoever who is leading this goat rodeo on
either side, are going to get together and say, Okay,
what do we do? How do we I'll let you
save face, you let me save face.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
We got to end this.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I'll say something bad about AOC once a week. No,
that would actually help her, you know, because that's what
this is all about, is Schumer getting primary by AOC
and them thinking, yeah, the expiration of our extra subsidies
to a Obamacare which we signed into law, fighting against
that and claiming it's something evil the Republicans are doing
(24:07):
that looks really good for us.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
So it's all just dishonest politics.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
But again, without good messaging, you can't to communicate that
to people. But I suspect you're right that it will
end by the end of the week.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
I'm just so discouraged by the state of our government.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
How would you not be, and you know, and just
our politics and our culture and everything like that to
that point. Yesterday, I was in my liberal college town,
like all college towns are, and I was going to
pick up a friend of mine. We were going to
go eat lunch, and he said, drive your cyber truck.
(24:46):
It'll drive my neighbors crazy. And then he told me
a story about a friend of his from one of
your red counties in California showed up in his pickup
truck that had like Trump stickers on on it and
all that sort of stuff. I mean, like a full
on Maga stickered up truck was parked in his driveway,
(25:07):
and he said the neighbors talk to his wife because
they didn't want to talk to him because I knew
he was sympathetic toward to God. Neighbors talk to his
wife and we're having a conversation of like, what do
we do?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
What should we do?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
His response was, what you do is you ignore somebody
else's truck in somebody else's driveway. I mean, what do
you mean what you do? But I just thought that
was such a reach down.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Get hold of your panties, pull them in this direction,
then that direction, and that should unwadd them.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Now each side likes to claim the other side is worse,
but I really do think in general, Oh, people on
the right think the people on the left are wrong.
People on the left think the people on the right
are evil. You think I'm evil because if I see
a truck in my neighborhood and in part next door,
(26:00):
and it's got the coexist and Kamala Harris Biden, Harris
Mumpers singing on the steve, I roll my eyes and
that's the only that's the last of me thinking about it.
A lot of go about your life, right, I wouldn't
get with my other names, sek what should we do?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
What should we do? What the hell are you talking about?
That's hilarious, I know, isn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I just see the non hilarious side of that way
of thinking coming up in a little bit. We've got
some audio of people, including Mom Donnie supporters who may
well rouse you to want to get into the fight.
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Try to picture this a group of neighbors knocking on
the door to talk to the wife to say, we're
trying to decide what to do about that truck that's
in your driveway with the Trump bumper sticker. I would
have wanted to play along, precious. Oh yeah, it's boy.
What are our options things to do? I suppose I
don't know. We could set him on sugar?
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Should we call the police?
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Advocate that I think we should call the police, go
them into calling nine one one.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
I think we should.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
I'm calling the report a pickup truck with a very
hostile bumper sticker in a driveway in my neighborhood, maybe
so that nine to one one tape would exist and
leak its way into the media.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
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it leaves? And I'm sorry, you know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
It's the person in the truck doing something now, it's
the very presence of the truck that bothers us some
up moral gadget I don't understand. Is it parked illegally?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Is it now? It's got a Trump bumper sticker on it.
What shouldn't we do? What should we go hiding those
bush ears and just sit there exactly.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Arm yourselves hiding the bush keep an eye on it.
You need to work on shifts. So nobody get lets
the truck out of its site all night long, you weirdos. Okay,
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Speaker 6 (29:33):
When the day starts with Dick Cheney being dead, it
ends with mom Donnie winning.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Yes, Oh I'm so happy. All right, that's a lefty
woman is celebrating. Well, it's clear what she's celebrating, Big
mum Donny fan. Here's another mum Donnie fan in New
York City, real.
Speaker 12 (29:56):
Lostart Stanisic Califate of New York starts today.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
Sharia law starts today. Islamic Caliphate of New York. Zoran
our brother in Islam.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
So being happy that Dick Cheney died the same day
socialists got elected mayor in New York is It's one
thing to have those feelings, and it's another thing decide.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
To post it.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
You know, you wouldn't think you'd be the sort of
person that ever posts glee over anyone's death. But the
more disturbing one is celebrating the Caliphate is coming. What
in the world, Yeah, yeah, she said the quiet part
out loud.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
There are a number of Muslim uh supremacists Islamists if
you prefer the term, who are very happy about Mamdani's
election uh for a variety of reasons, mostly having to
do with establishing a worldwide caliphate and overthrowing democracy, Christianity
and Judaism.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
More on that to come headline.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
There it is more arrests have been made as part
of that ISIS terrorist plot against LGBTQ plus minus over
the power three bars on Halloween. According to the acting
US Attorney for the District of New Jersey, the arrests
in New Jersey were a couple of Muslim fellas who
(31:24):
were on their way to Newark Liberty International Airport to
flee to Turkey because their buddies in Michigan had been arrested.
These guys had actually traveled to Michigan to discuss shooting
up gay bars with the guys who got arrested the
other day. In Michigan, two of the guys pledged themselves
(31:47):
to ISIS post for photos in front of an ISIS
flag planning in terrorist attech on US soil, all of
them I believe, in their twenties. Yeah, so well done, FBI.
It's a testament to the great work that agency and
(32:08):
others do that kept us protected.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Anyway, on that topic, here's somebody who has only dimly
aware of Jennifer Welch. She is, she was known Bravo TV,
one of those home many home shows.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
But she's a.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Way way lefty, like a bitter, nasty, angry lefty. In
her far left podcast, I think it's We've had it.
I think is the name of it is a big
deal on the far left. I guess this audio is
not great. I will interpret it as necessary. Here's Jennifer Welch.
Speaker 12 (32:48):
Means live.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Journey. Okay, So what she said was, look, we're surrounded
by a lot of white people. Americans have no culture
except for multiculturalism. White people need to be taught this
(33:17):
crusty white people need to learn how to embrace it.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
So she's a self hating white person.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
There is no American culture except for modern multiculturalism, says
this Jenner for Welsh Monster, America hating zenophile ignoramus. The
idea that we don't have a culture. That the ignorance
(33:44):
is astonishing, never mind the political perversity of it. American
culture has been so dominant both you know culture as
people refer to it, arts, and entertainment that sort of thing.
But American political culture, the culture of free speech and religion, entrepreneurialism,
(34:09):
individual rights, all of it has been so incredibly successful
and popular around the world. People like you used to say,
our culture is too dominant in the world. We need
to not dominate other cultures being less entertaining or something.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
The fact that you can go to any corner of
the world and there's a McDonald's and somebody wearing Levi's
jeans waiting in line for a big mac is, you.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Know, and people yearning to breathe free and speak freely
and come to the United States literally by the billions.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah, because of our culture. Maybe the thing we take.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
The most for granted is the lack of corruption in
our culture compared to other countries, because man, that's a
hard thing to get going, yeah, and a tough thing
to get back if you lose it.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
And one more time, and I'm borrowing a little from
Samuel Hunting on this, but culture here's how Here's what
culture is. It's how we do things around here. It's
not just your native dance and your traditional clothing that
you throw on at your national holidays. It is the
relationship between people and their government, between husbands and wives,
(35:17):
children and their teachers. It is our arts and entertainment,
but it's also free speech is part of our culture.
The freedom of religion is an incredibly important part of
our culture. The fact that we don't have government corruption
on the level of other people. How we do things
around here is our culture. And for this malignant ignoramus
(35:37):
to claim that Americans have no culture except for multiculturalism,
she's evil, evil and ignorant.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
What was the name of your band? Gonna be Japanese
Bear Attack? Japanese Bear Attack. That's right, Yeah, I'm gotta
remember that. That's a good one. Great logo.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Katie brought us the news that the year's closest. I'm
thinking it'll be a samurai like protecting itself as it
is beset by a bear.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
That'll be our logo. Katie told us about the years
close to super Moon the other day.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
The results of that are quite amazing to me. I
want to work that into hour three. The way that
seems to affect people. According to a couple of medical
professionals I talk to, I know, seems crazy, doesn't I
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