November 3, 2025 • 35 mins
Hour 1 of A&G features...
- The World Series, government shutdown, NYC mayoral race & more
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty Armstrong and
Getty and Key Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Live from Studio se see Dimly litt Room Deep with
them the fowls of the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound
to kick off a brand new week in a brand
new month.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Today we're under the tutelage of our general manager.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Let's go with your Los Angeles Dodgers World serious champions.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I will tell you what this opportunity.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Sunday morning, I was advocating we should have invaded Canada
then because they were so tomorrow, wized there'd have been
no fight in them. I was rooting for the Blue Jays,
as I stated, But it was a tremendously fun sporting event.
For seven games. Those are the more fun of watching
sports I've had in my wife, really enjoy the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And a Game seven that is not only a Game seven,
but cohost extra innings. Are you kidding? Man? Hardly get
any better than that. That was a good time.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
And then of course La did what La does and
rioted like crazy that night and destroyed all sorts of
property that taxpayers will pay for. Why we put up
with this? I'll never ever in my life understand why
we've decided. Well, you're excited, so I guess if you
take millions of taxpayer dollars destroying public property, that's just
you know, people being people, and the.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Cost of enforcing the law would be too much. It'd
be too nasty, too bloody, too expensive, So we'll just
let people run rampant. Yeah, it's a great example. And
there are so many of the very very thin line,
the fragile line between civilization and chaos, and yet especially
as a young having grown up in civilization their entire lives,
(01:52):
think well, they could never go away.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We're in today, thirty four of the shutdown. Today, if
we have tomorrow we tie the record or set the record. Anyway,
we're getting close to an all time records.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
That's very, very exciting.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And then there's some sort of court ruling that came
out over the weekend that the Trump administration has to
come up with money for the snap benefits. And I
don't know where that one stands AnyWho. I was in
a religious setting over the weekend and a woman actually
said it's hard to believe there is a god.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
With the government shut down going on, hard to believe
there's a brain in your skull, sweetheart. That's show. Not Jack.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Jack much more diplomatic, actually said that. I thought, Wow,
I don't feel it at quite that level. Come on, now,
that was the Babylon b No, it was a parody.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
No, I am not kidding. Good gracious, I.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Know so different people are looking at it in different ways. Well,
I was looking at the polling on this, a couple
of polls that came out over the weekend, and the
percentage of people who are highly worried about this, it's
like eighty percent people that say they were being affected
by it. Was three quarters three quarters of people affected
by this government shutdown.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
No way, three quarters. That can't be. That seems like
a stretch to me. I am not highly worried about it.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I would put myself at barely remembering that it's happening,
and in terms of it affecting my life zero so far. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I was saying that the doctor who was removing my kidney,
my second kidney, because I've sold them both to try
to get me through the government shutdown. I was telling
them I don't feel like it's affected me very much,
and he agreed. I kid, I haven't heard anybody talking
about it in the context of actually affecting their lives. No,
in my real life, now that I think about it,
I'm not denying it has in some ways. You know,
we've heard from various folks who are government contractors or
(03:39):
have well, you know, work tangentially with the government and
or government employees. I'm not saying nobody's affected by it,
but that number stretches my credulity. I do have a
friend in government who's constantly sending me pictures from her
various hikes and trips that she's been taking during government shutdown,
during her WOW vacation.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Here we sit in which suckers in private sector suckers
in which she will get paid at the end of
this thing, for the for the weeks that you know
you didn't get paid. Now, if you're paycheck to paycheck
and you missed a paycheck, obviously that is a that is.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
A really really big deal and would be really really tough.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I mean, there are many years of my life where
if I had had to miss a paycheck, it would
have been quite sucky. I would have been scrambling to
try to figure out how I was gonna make that
month work. But three quarters of people seems a lie.
I'm sorry, where'd that number come from?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Again?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
One of the many polls that came out over the week,
and a lot of them were in that area. I
would say it was prevailing the prevailing wisdom over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Well, given the unbelievable metastasizing of a lot of social
programs where, for instance, there's a free what was the
proposal I was looking at? Oh, it was Obamacare subsidies
that go to people up to four times the poverty level,
(05:07):
which is one hundred and five thousand dollars for a
family of three in earnings per year. If you have
government largess going out to that enormous a group of people,
I suppose maybe more of that than many people are
at least feeling a little pinch.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Three quarters and eighty percent of people are very concerned.
Am I that out of touch with the world?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Either that or I'd love to see the actual wording
of the poll questions, But it seems pretty Straightfor I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I have family and friends of all socioeconomic levels, and
nobody seems to be the least bit concerned.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, I am astounded by that number. Man.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Anyway, So then you got the mayoral race tomorrow, A
bunch of races tomorrow which are not bell weathers.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Are freaking anything.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
God, if there's one narrative I'm tired of in my
life in the world of politics, it's any time there's
a an election anywhere in the country, them trying to convince.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
You that this has got serious national significance.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is a
preview of the midterms whatever that anyway, Oh my goodness,
shall Anyway, the one that is clearly the most interesting
and has the most likelihood of being a bellweather of
something is clearly the New York mayoral race and whether
or not that's the direction that party is going to go.
(06:27):
And I was listened to uh buh who was having
this on him. I don't even remember the news Nation,
I guess it was. And they said that the big
divide is age. That's the biggest divide in mom. Donnie's
big lead there, which has shrunk in the polls, but
he's still going to win. The big divide his age
(06:49):
with the younger not believing in capitalism to the extent
that older generations do idiots and not liking Israel in
the way that older generations have. The capitalism thing, that's
a big deal. That's a big deal. If we have
sweeping in in a generation that doesn't believe in capitalism,
that's a big deal.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Wow. Wow, man, we are generation generation before asleep at
the switch as education was taken over by radicals. Man,
this was one of the most successful ideologagical captures. Maybe
the history of mankind makes Mao's Red Guard look. I mean,
that was overt It was done openly. The perversion of
(07:32):
the minds of American kids was done covertly in the
schoolhouses where we assume they were being taught to read, write,
and do math, you know, as test scores kept telling
us they weren't. We just thought they were doing a
crappy job, but what they were supposed to do. We
didn't realize they were doing something completely different. Yeah, And
I think it's probably like.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Sleeping on your marriage or a relationship with your kids,
or maybe your job and things that you think, you know,
it's going so well, it's been going.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So well for so long. I don't need to even
think about that much. Anymore, and it was.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Of course, this is a settled question whether or not
capitalism free markets are better, whether democracies are better, and
whether or not we're a good country. These are settled questions.
There's no reason to revisit bad I mean, come on,
that's ridiculous. I think that's where we were.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Right, That's absolutely true, undred percent.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And uh, we're about to get our come up on
tomorrow when a whole generation gets excited about a freaking cop.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Well Trump called him a communist last night on sixty minutes.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Fine, close enough, yeah, close enough is right, especially because
Marxists have for the entire history of Marxism known they
have to pretend to be something else since that practically
one of their trade marks.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Is no Marxist Marxism. What said the Marxist?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
All right, so we uh, there are a lot of
flight delays and cancelations now that you know what a
when I was flying over the weekend, then I probably
would have been able to check the box of my
life was affected by.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
The government shutdown. You're right, you're right. That expanded the number.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yep, that definitely expanded the number because there were quite
a few delays and cancelations, and that's going to grow
a lot this week and next from people who legitimately
are not wanting to go to work because they ain't
getting paid and maybe have to stay home with the kids,
or they're driving an uber or whatever, and then you know,
politically they're not going to work because it causes more pain.
(09:29):
So that might be the best way to reach lots
of people is the flight cancelations.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, I heard one guy who was was he like,
what the flight to the air Traffic Union or something,
I can't remember. He wasn't an air traffic controller himself,
but he was explaining how with the government shut down
and the paychecks being was held, even though they'll be
paid back eventually probably, they just they're offended. Essentially, they
can't believe that they're being asked to work without being paid.
(09:55):
And but essentially what he said was and so people,
you're in a mood like, na, I'm calling in, I'm
gonna pretend to be sick. So the mood is kind
of feisty and defiant, and yeah, I don't have to
act like a good employee because you're screwing me kind
of sort of by laying my paycheck and so people
are just calling in because they figured nobody's.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Gonna call me on it, right, So kind of on
that subject, are they starve the lazy?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
T shirts and sweatshirts? In our story, they are, oh,
in the hoodies, very attractive. Armstrong and Geeddy dot com
check out the store. This is not an implication that
everyone who needs help is lazy, but there are lots
of lazy people, and those we might say starve the poor.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It says starve the lazy exactly, exactly, very succinct, very straightforward.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Get your starve the lazy Armstrong and Geddy gear. Wear
it proudly. People ask you about it. Oh my god,
let's start the show. Officially, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe
Getty on this. It is Monday, November third, brand new month.
The rent is do the rent. It's too damn in
the year twenty brother, they're twenty twenty five. That's why
I'm voting mom, Donnie, because the rent's too high. We're
(11:05):
gonna find run man, Donnie. That's not actually right, Doron.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
We're gonna finally get pro finally get rent control in
the city, which has been proven to work everywhere.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Oh, it's always a winner.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
You're twenty twenty five. We are armstrong in getting we
approve of this program.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
You know, I generally don't wear political stuff when I'm
not working, because I talk about it all day long,
and I would just assume talk about the weather. But
the thing I like about the star of the Lazy gear,
and the reason I would be willing to wear that
is if somebody brought it up to me. The answer
is so brilliant and persuasive. It's that social programs are
(11:45):
for people who truly need them, not just people who
are unwilling to work. Well, what about the young mother
who blah blah, Oh no, no, I'm fine with that.
It's just the lazy. We're just talking about the lazy.
And you would have to be either a lunatic or
a communist not to say, yeah, I guess I agree
with you.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Perfectly healthy working age dudes, of which we have millions
who aren't even looking for a job that crowd, for instance,
bingo gringo.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
All right, let's start the show officially according to FCC
rules regulations.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Here we go at Mark, I want to be mayor
so I can deliver a better New York free healthcare
affordable housing, free Wi Fi as mayor can I make
that happen? I'm not sure yet, but together we're gonna
find out that the answer is no.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
That was the faux New York mayoral debate on Saturday
Night Live, with the Mama Donnie character being represented as
someone who's promising things he can't do. Although I don't
think that really matters. It's similar to the Trump running
for election.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
We just signaled directionally where we are, and people vote
for that, knowing that they might not necessarily be able
to do what they're saying, but you know.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
It's gonna be fun to talk about.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
On Wednesday, we got Katie's headlines on the way, lots
of stuff Today's stay right here.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I took the.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Kids to I Hop yesterday, me and two kids, eighty bucks,
and I thought, I remember, it doesn't seem like it
was that long ago, that that'd be like going to
a nice restaurant.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Sorry, that sounds like dinner and a nice bottle of wine.
Perhaps you share a desserts romantic and delicious. Me and
two kids at I Hop. Wow, Yeah, that's crazy. That's
Inflation was the number one issue people were concerned about
on all the pulling that came out over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
This is Donald Trump's America, all right, A lot to
say on that topic tariff.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Soh my gosh, huge Supreme Court to case this to
a week but no time. We got to figure out
who's reporting what. It's the lead story with Katie Green
and Katie Oh geeze, it is getting late jumped to it, Katie,
alrighty Bleacher Report.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Jeff Hoffman takes blame. Feels pretty Essie to cost the
Blue Jays the World Series.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Can't blame a person in a team sport like that.
Lots of opportunities for both teams. It could have gone
either way. Oh, in the stuff that happens early in
the game. Everybody forgets about that.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
But man, that you get as many runs for a
run in the second inning as you do in the eleventh.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Man, that's Dodgers catch where the one outfielder ran over
the other and that would have been the end of
the game. Uh wow.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
How the US economy has defied doomsday predictions on tariffs.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, I just gonna bring that up. We need to
talk about that. Yeah, that is amazing.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
From the New York Post Mississippi Mom Guns down monkey
that escaped from overturned truck to project protect her children.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
So that is hoomb of the year. Is that the
last one? The last of the diseased monkey's on the
loose that the mom CROs Well, maybe they keep giving
us different numbers to try to cover up their complicity.
And the doctor fauci like unleashing of disease monkeys on
her food. Yeah, and the first one hit your tongue off.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Apparently, this one from study fines one bite of dark
chocolate could sharpen your memory for.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
The next hour. Well that's good for me.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Because I bought the dark chocolate Hershey Kisses for Halloween
and because we didn't have that many kids come by,
I got this big bag of Hershey kids is sitting
on the counter.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
One Hershey's Kisses. Nothing. I'll just have a walk by
five and ittes like everyone more. Is not a very
big deal. It's just a little war. I love the
dark chocolate. Oh, the dark chocolate Hershey's kiss is pretty good.
I've been doing the dark chocolate covered almonds lately.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, that's funny me too.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Until you walk by the bag, you get a couple.
It's an omens let me have one more for me.
That's our fat voice.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Finally, this one from the Babylon Bee all kind of
activating sleeper cells to help get out.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
The vote for Mandami. Oh oh boy, not far off.
You remember the clip of him at that Democratic Socialists
of America gathering said he came to politics through the
quote unquote Palestinian Cause. I also have another Islamist leader admitting, Yeah,
the Palestinian Cause is just wiping out the Jews. That's
(16:20):
just code we use for wiping out the Jews. Trump
threatened some military action over some Islamists that are killing
Christians in Nigeria, which it's gonna be a heck of
a thing if he actually follows through on that. You know,
we got a lot to talk about today to catch
up from the weekend. I hope you can stick around
if you missed a segment. Gets the podcast Armstrong and
Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
The White House Face is a deadline to payout snap
benefits despite the government shutdown. A federal judge ordered the
Trump administration to start making foodstamp payments today or partial
payments by Wednesday, but it's unclear if the White House
will comply. The Trump administration argued it can't legally use
emergency funds.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
So depending on how that whole thing turns out.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
And that's, of course, assuming the shutdown still going on
by Wednesday, which I think most experts think it will be,
and that'll make it the longest shut down in US history.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I feel like that.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
While it's kind of being portrayed as a like gotcha
to the Republicans, I feel like it's going to delay
any pressure on the right to cave on the whole
shutdown if they because that's the biggest leverage over the
last several weeks anyway. So that benefits the poor, the hungry,
starving people starving, is the point, Gavin Newsom said. And
(17:37):
then if they have to continue with that, okay, then
what's your what's your leverage now? Flying We just got
a text from somebody who said they flew to Boston
back from the West Coast. They had no delays and
they never heard anybody bring it up in the airports
or anywhere at all.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
The shutdown thing.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Again getting to my confusion overpolling that shows eighty percent
of Americans are highly concerned about the shot.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
But now, really, I don't feel that. But now I
gotta call horsecrap on that. Sorry, horsecrap. Yeah, I'm calling
that to manure. I just I can't imagine that to
be true. Of course, you got the media telling you
every day.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
If you take in any media at all, the mainstream
media telling you that it is a crisis, whether you're
feeling it in your life or not, that might affect
some people. You wouldn't even my contention, as the vast
majority of people wouldn't even know it was happening. If
the news wasn't telling you, you should be concerned about
it on a regular basis. Breaking news ish happened Yesterday.
Trump said he will not be attending the Supreme Court
(18:38):
oral arguments on Wednesday. The Supreme Court is going to
have their arguments on Wednesday about whether or not he
has the power to start throwing all these tariffs around
and roiling the world economy as one guy. He's using
some emergency powers to do that. He said he is
going to go on Wednesday because it was such a
big decision and sit there. Other people talked him down
and said it'll look bad and look like he's putting
pressure on the court and all that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, other people meeting everyone, absolutely, everyone from Jadvans to Milania.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And Baron said, don't do that, So he tweeted out
our truth doubt. I will not be going to the
court on Wednesday. I do not want to distract from
the importance of this decision, and he went on to
say it will be, in my opinion, one of the
most important and consequential decisions ever made by the United
States Supreme Court. If we lose, our country could be
reduced to third world status. Pray to God that it
(19:27):
doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well, that's ridiculous. I don't agree with that.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
It's interesting. I don't know anything about this. But Mark
Alprin writes in his newsletter, even if the court rules
against him, there are many workarounds that Trump can use
to continue to tariff if he wants to.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Other different ways. I don't know anything about that. Yeah
I don't. Yeah, yeah, I'm that is getting way way
into the weeds. But it's going to be a hell
of an interest in case, no doubt, if only because
we've already collected a ton of money in tariffs, not
as much as was predicted significantly, but a heck of
(20:04):
a lot and figuring out how to return that if
it turns out they were illegal, because I think we
probably would need to now that could cause quite the
fiscal crisis, as if we don't have one already. But
it's a huge case in a lot of different ways.
Number One, obviously the economic impact of it, because a
(20:24):
heck of a lot of money is trading hands. There's
the power of Trump to make trade deals right now,
and he's already made a bunch of them. Undoing that
would be just crazy economically and a little confusing. There's
the question of the status of the Court and its
willingness to become a hot, hot, hot political football and
(20:48):
specifically go up against a very dynamic president on a big,
big issue for him because the Court, you know, the
Court has to They don't talk about this much, but
they're supposed to be completely a political They just are
our Lady Justice blind with the scales and everything right.
But they're not idiots.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
They understand that if there's a news Joe Getty says,
the Supreme Court not idiots.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Most of them aren't idiots. I'd like to amend my comments,
mister Chairman, but this would be incredibly disruptive and really
really anger the executive branch. And so I've been trying
to read comprehensible theories by legal experts on you know,
how the court might maneuver a way to get the
(21:37):
result they know they need to without utter defiance, open defiance.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
What an example of that being what John Roberts did
on Obamacare. It was a popular president signature legislation passed
by the by Congress, to like, went out of his
way to come up with a way that it was
legal to do that.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, it's not good, No, that was not good, but yes,
they might try to find a way to do that.
You know, it's funny about this whole thing. Not funny
ha ha, but funny. Annoying is that if Congress would
do their damn jobs. This is a question for Congress.
They need to clarify the nineteen seventy seven Emergency Powers Law,
(22:22):
which is nothing about tariffs, nothing about tariffs whatsoever. It's
a stretch to think it includes tariffs. But you know,
they could clarify it tomorrow. Of course they can't because
the government shut down, which is affecting eighty two percent
of US.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I'll admit I was all excited about this ruling until
I read that there are workarounds that he could legally.
You know, it's like the Supreme Court shut down Biden
on bailing out the college kids, but he found other
ways to get around it, the other weird, different complicated laws.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, but maybe that's good news in a way if
they can set the president that And I don't want
to get into the legal weeds into this, partly because
I don't know what I'm talking about. If they could
find a way for Trump to and Trump World to
(23:10):
accept the decision and have some face saving ways to
get around it at the edges, but at the same
time not giving the executive branch the uniality unilateral power
to tax if it has to do with imports, because
the Constitution never dreamed of that. It is not a
constitutional power of the president. It's imports. When when the
(23:33):
you know, George Washington was president, what percentage of the
the economy was imports? I don't know, but it was
definitely lower. So I don't I don't know. This is
a mess. Trump has gone too far and they're going
to rein him in, I think. But we'll say. What's
interesting about this is I've read conservative legal commentators and
(23:54):
it's it's a toss up, toss up rather, nobody knows
exactly which way it's going to go.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
And then the Wall Street Journal article today that the
feared inflation from all the tariffs has not hit the
way it was expected to here in November.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Right, we would feel it in November. Part of that
is that companies thought, oh my god, and they stocked
up like crazy on goods. Plus, there are technical ways
you can get around the TERFF regulations. They have what
are called bonded warehouses, where if I'm an exporter in India,
I have these warehouses and I store goods in India,
(24:38):
but say these are in America now because they're all
going to America. So there they are imported already even
though they're still on Indian territory, and you got warehouses
full of those. Interesting to know about that today, honestly, Yeah,
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Speaker 1 (26:01):
Never forget wow. Letting that go pye four time? I
think four times in a row? Three or four times
in a row. Was the Japan League MVP. Comes to
the United States. The next year he's the World Series MVP.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Well, he was the difference in the World Series, no
doubt about it, no donabout he was the only picture
that Toronto couldn't hit eight games plus two innings that
World Series went innings.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, throws one hundred pitches of ninety two pitches, comes
out and pitches the next day. Nobody does that these days.
So one more note on the whole tariff thing. The
court evidently understands that this is a monster. This is
an eight hundred pound gorilla.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
So they set a brisk schedule for the parties to
submit written briefs and present oral arguments, and they now
seem likely to rule swiftly rather than wait until the
end of the term next summer, which is the usual
practice for most of the Yeah, yeah, you can't wait
to June to say, by the way, all that tear
off stuff between the number one and number two economies
(27:05):
for the past year illegal. I mean, that'd be ridiculous, right.
You gotta announce it like Wednesday afternoon or whenever you
make your decision.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
So you know, to me, the pivotal question in the
case is this nineteen seventy seven law gave the president
certain tools to quote deal with any unusual and extraordinary
threat to the national security, foreign policy, or economy of
the United States.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Talking about the International Emergency Economics Powers.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Act, and that includes the power to quote regulate imports.
Lil vague, right, is we have a trade deficit as
a country with a gigantic consumer spending, you know, base
of our economy having a trade deficit. Is that an
unusual or an extraordinary threat? I say no, I see
(27:54):
understand this, Friends, understand I want to reign in the
wild powers of the executive branch because they're gonna be
in Democrat hands eventually, and with the Democratic Party swinging
to the left, you will praise God that the Supreme
Court existed when that lunatic, if they're elected, is in
the office. You'll be internally grateful that the Supreme Court
(28:18):
found its kahonas imported from Mexico, Oh Tiff. You'll be
thrilled that they had found their cojones and reigned in
executive power when that day comes.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
That's right, cojones are forty percent more expensive because of tariffs.
Now the order them through the mail, want them fresh.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I find myself I got to choose between my rent
and my khonees, especially with the government shutdown.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, Gavin Newsom did a big interview yesterday on Meet
the Press.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I think it was did he actually say anything or
did he just string together a bunch of unrelated phrases.
He's good.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
He's good in that politician good. He's horrible and good
and that politician sort of way. He's good at being
a politician. I don't understand why politicians get over the
way they do on people, because they're almost all full
of crap. But in terms of doing that sport that
is being a politician, he's pretty good at it. I
am not a dead mackerel at midnight.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
He shines and he stinks.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I'm not optimistic about things. We got some clips of
that and other stuff we can get to a little
bit later. We got mail bag coming up.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Stay here.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I didn't come across some zero sugar peanut butter cups
in the store. I didn't buy them because I figure
whatever they're putting in the peanut butter cup to make
it sweet, it's probably worse for me than sugar. Yeah,
that's that's my current stance. Yeah, yeah, let's see, here's
your freedom loving quote of the day. I was.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Motivated to revisit one of the greatest works of English
language writing this ever existed, John Stuart Mills on liberty
over the weekend and beginning a series of quotes some
of the key passages of that brilliant, foundational, irreplaceable argument
(30:15):
in favor of free speech. Aren't we something? Listen to this?
I'm a little fancy. Yes, that's true. Guilty. We'll start
with this, and it has to do with one of
his foundational arguments that liberty can only be limited to
prevent harm to others and more on that. But the
only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over
(30:38):
any member of a civilized community against his will is
to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical
or moral, is not a sufficient warrant.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Oh boy, how far away are we from that? Yeah,
that's against paternalism and Nanni statism. The current hot topic
out of that quote, though, is the question of preventing
harm to others, which is why leftist totalitarians try to
convince you that speech is violence, because fortunately, any civilized
(31:10):
person would agree that violence is the one thing we
can forbid except under special circumstances. And so they've thought,
they've realized, Okay, well, ideas are our greatest enemy.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
So we've got to find a way to outlaw ideas.
I know, say, speech is violence. I have much to
say on this.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Whole government shouldn't do anything just because it would be
good for people.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I want to talk about that again more.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Of course, the delace core problem with that is who's
making this decision on what's good for me?
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Why are they better at this than a me?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
And whose money is being forcefully appropriated to accomplish said goal.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Mail bag talk about that all week. If you want,
mail bag at Armstrong and geedtdy dot com is our
email address. Drop is a note, won't you mail bag
at Armstrong and getty dot com. Good morning, gentlemen and Kate,
he writes a bridget and beautiful of heals Burg, California.
I think you a wine country, don't you know? I
think you may have not given enough credit to the
great term you used on Friday's show, All Shocks. As
(32:12):
you poured over the Timothy Lee article about Agi, Joe
usually came up with a perfect metaphor for today's youngster,
which is being created by the ease of life, immedia gratification,
social media, parents who never parented, educational system, et.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Cetera, et cetera. A blob of bitter on Wii. Yes,
I described America's youth as blobs of bitter on Wei.
Heretofore known as bbes or is it Bobie's anyway? Idle
hands are the devil's playthings. Indeed, Yeah, I've got some
good stuff on that from an economics podcast I listened
to over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Can't wait to talk about it. A bunch of bbes.
Dan writes, Guys, you mentioned how chat GPT is designed
to kiss your heini. Absolutely true, and I would like
to apologize in advance for the content of this email.
But I think it's sheer stupidity and grossness proves the point.
I let my six year old niece ask any questions
she wanted to chat GPT. I was talking about the
(33:06):
fact that it flatters you all the time. I could ask,
you know, what's the best place to get a replacement
tube for my bike tire? Excellent question, it will say, No,
it's a basicfing question because I need an fing bike too,
but it's not a great question at all Anyway, the
six year old the text of her question was why
(33:26):
do farts stink? And before it answered, it hit me
with a what an excellent question? Oh god, is it
really gets to the heart of human digestion? Lol, So dumb.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I liked doing that with Groc, like I said something
about how I was rooting for the Blue Jays. Oh man,
I want the blue Jays to win, and Groc said,
I know me too. Isn't it fun rooting for a
plucky team up against the blah blah blah. I mean
they just go with whatever your vibe is to make
you feel this so clearly a deliberate strategy to you know,
answer apomorphon these computer programs so we become more addicted
(34:03):
to them. We've absolutely a story later about Chat something
or other telling a kid to go cut himself, which
is horrifying. We've got teen suicides from the AI characters.
How about this AI please be careful?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Rights Manny put down my two hundred dollars for an
annual subscription to the premium version. Obviously have been challenging
and prompting and pushing my AI chat bought in all
sorts of ways in my own profession, with serious questions
and requests for designs and specifications, and also about religion, philosophy, politics, finance,
home improvement. I've spent a lot of time pushing and
prodding at this thing. His field is a technical one,
(34:43):
and he needs to know how good it is and
how good it isn't I would say anyway, it's amazing
and also amazingly scary how inaccurate and badly misleading it
can be. It is really good at convincing you it's
your friend who's willing to help. But across the line
last night when I asked it to play a simple
game of chess, and I had to shut it down
after ree restarts based on illegal moves, and he goes
into what illegal.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Moves they want, moves like the Bishop of jumping people
or something, yes, specifically the queen well called jack. The
only response I get when I protest is you're right,
I made an illegal move.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Wow, Wow, that is really interesting, because I mean the
rules of chess that's not very complicated, and it can't
even stick with that.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
And I'll use this as his summary. There are a
lot of very smart people spending billions and billions of
dollars building something that they do not fully understand, but
they're selling it like snake oil.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, and as one of the keys. They do not
understand exactly themselves why their AI does what it does.
Which life should trouble you. We've got a lot on
the way. If you missed the SEGM maget the podcast
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Speaker 1 (35:53):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Live from Studio se see Dimly litt Room Deep with
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to kick off a brand new week in a brand
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Today we're under the tutelage of our general manager.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Let's go with your Los Angeles Dodgers World serious champions.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I will tell you what this opportunity.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Sunday morning, I was advocating we should have invaded Canada
then because they were so tomorrow, wized there'd have been
no fight in them. I was rooting for the Blue Jays,
as I stated, But it was a tremendously fun sporting event.
For seven games. Those are the more fun of watching
sports I've had in my wife, really enjoy the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And a Game seven that is not only a Game seven,
but cohost extra innings. Are you kidding? Man? Hardly get
any better than that. That was a good time.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
And then of course La did what La does and
rioted like crazy that night and destroyed all sorts of
property that taxpayers will pay for. Why we put up
with this? I'll never ever in my life understand why
we've decided. Well, you're excited, so I guess if you
take millions of taxpayer dollars destroying public property, that's just
you know, people being people, and the.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Cost of enforcing the law would be too much. It'd
be too nasty, too bloody, too expensive, So we'll just
let people run rampant. Yeah, it's a great example. And
there are so many of the very very thin line,
the fragile line between civilization and chaos, and yet especially
as a young having grown up in civilization their entire lives,
(01:52):
think well, they could never go away.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We're in today, thirty four of the shutdown. Today, if
we have tomorrow we tie the record or set the record. Anyway,
we're getting close to an all time records.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
That's very, very exciting.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And then there's some sort of court ruling that came
out over the weekend that the Trump administration has to
come up with money for the snap benefits. And I
don't know where that one stands AnyWho. I was in
a religious setting over the weekend and a woman actually
said it's hard to believe there is a god.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
With the government shut down going on, hard to believe
there's a brain in your skull, sweetheart. That's show. Not Jack.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Jack much more diplomatic, actually said that. I thought, Wow,
I don't feel it at quite that level. Come on, now,
that was the Babylon b No, it was a parody.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
No, I am not kidding. Good gracious, I.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Know so different people are looking at it in different ways. Well,
I was looking at the polling on this, a couple
of polls that came out over the weekend, and the
percentage of people who are highly worried about this, it's
like eighty percent people that say they were being affected
by it. Was three quarters three quarters of people affected
by this government shutdown.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
No way, three quarters. That can't be. That seems like
a stretch to me. I am not highly worried about it.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I would put myself at barely remembering that it's happening,
and in terms of it affecting my life zero so far. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I was saying that the doctor who was removing my kidney,
my second kidney, because I've sold them both to try
to get me through the government shutdown. I was telling
them I don't feel like it's affected me very much,
and he agreed. I kid, I haven't heard anybody talking
about it in the context of actually affecting their lives. No,
in my real life, now that I think about it,
I'm not denying it has in some ways. You know,
we've heard from various folks who are government contractors or
(03:39):
have well, you know, work tangentially with the government and
or government employees. I'm not saying nobody's affected by it,
but that number stretches my credulity. I do have a
friend in government who's constantly sending me pictures from her
various hikes and trips that she's been taking during government shutdown,
during her WOW vacation.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Here we sit in which suckers in private sector suckers
in which she will get paid at the end of
this thing, for the for the weeks that you know
you didn't get paid. Now, if you're paycheck to paycheck
and you missed a paycheck, obviously that is a that is.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
A really really big deal and would be really really tough.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I mean, there are many years of my life where
if I had had to miss a paycheck, it would
have been quite sucky. I would have been scrambling to
try to figure out how I was gonna make that
month work. But three quarters of people seems a lie.
I'm sorry, where'd that number come from?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Again?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
One of the many polls that came out over the week,
and a lot of them were in that area. I
would say it was prevailing the prevailing wisdom over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Well, given the unbelievable metastasizing of a lot of social
programs where, for instance, there's a free what was the
proposal I was looking at? Oh, it was Obamacare subsidies
that go to people up to four times the poverty level,
(05:07):
which is one hundred and five thousand dollars for a
family of three in earnings per year. If you have
government largess going out to that enormous a group of people,
I suppose maybe more of that than many people are
at least feeling a little pinch.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Three quarters and eighty percent of people are very concerned.
Am I that out of touch with the world?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Either that or I'd love to see the actual wording
of the poll questions, But it seems pretty Straightfor I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I have family and friends of all socioeconomic levels, and
nobody seems to be the least bit concerned.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, I am astounded by that number. Man.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Anyway, So then you got the mayoral race tomorrow, A
bunch of races tomorrow which are not bell weathers.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Are freaking anything.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
God, if there's one narrative I'm tired of in my
life in the world of politics, it's any time there's
a an election anywhere in the country, them trying to convince.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
You that this has got serious national significance.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is a
preview of the midterms whatever that anyway, Oh my goodness,
shall Anyway, the one that is clearly the most interesting
and has the most likelihood of being a bellweather of
something is clearly the New York mayoral race and whether
or not that's the direction that party is going to go.
(06:27):
And I was listened to uh buh who was having
this on him. I don't even remember the news Nation,
I guess it was. And they said that the big
divide is age. That's the biggest divide in mom. Donnie's
big lead there, which has shrunk in the polls, but
he's still going to win. The big divide his age
(06:49):
with the younger not believing in capitalism to the extent
that older generations do idiots and not liking Israel in
the way that older generations have. The capitalism thing, that's
a big deal. That's a big deal. If we have
sweeping in in a generation that doesn't believe in capitalism,
that's a big deal.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Wow. Wow, man, we are generation generation before asleep at
the switch as education was taken over by radicals. Man,
this was one of the most successful ideologagical captures. Maybe
the history of mankind makes Mao's Red Guard look. I mean,
that was overt It was done openly. The perversion of
(07:32):
the minds of American kids was done covertly in the
schoolhouses where we assume they were being taught to read, write,
and do math, you know, as test scores kept telling
us they weren't. We just thought they were doing a
crappy job, but what they were supposed to do. We
didn't realize they were doing something completely different. Yeah, And
I think it's probably like.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Sleeping on your marriage or a relationship with your kids,
or maybe your job and things that you think, you know,
it's going so well, it's been going.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So well for so long. I don't need to even
think about that much. Anymore, and it was.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Of course, this is a settled question whether or not
capitalism free markets are better, whether democracies are better, and
whether or not we're a good country. These are settled questions.
There's no reason to revisit bad I mean, come on,
that's ridiculous. I think that's where we were.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Right, That's absolutely true, undred percent.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And uh, we're about to get our come up on
tomorrow when a whole generation gets excited about a freaking cop.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Well Trump called him a communist last night on sixty minutes.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Fine, close enough, yeah, close enough is right, especially because
Marxists have for the entire history of Marxism known they
have to pretend to be something else since that practically
one of their trade marks.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Is no Marxist Marxism. What said the Marxist?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
All right, so we uh, there are a lot of
flight delays and cancelations now that you know what a
when I was flying over the weekend, then I probably
would have been able to check the box of my
life was affected by.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
The government shutdown. You're right, you're right. That expanded the number.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yep, that definitely expanded the number because there were quite
a few delays and cancelations, and that's going to grow
a lot this week and next from people who legitimately
are not wanting to go to work because they ain't
getting paid and maybe have to stay home with the kids,
or they're driving an uber or whatever, and then you know,
politically they're not going to work because it causes more pain.
(09:29):
So that might be the best way to reach lots
of people is the flight cancelations.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, I heard one guy who was was he like,
what the flight to the air Traffic Union or something,
I can't remember. He wasn't an air traffic controller himself,
but he was explaining how with the government shut down
and the paychecks being was held, even though they'll be
paid back eventually probably, they just they're offended. Essentially, they
can't believe that they're being asked to work without being paid.
(09:55):
And but essentially what he said was and so people,
you're in a mood like, na, I'm calling in, I'm
gonna pretend to be sick. So the mood is kind
of feisty and defiant, and yeah, I don't have to
act like a good employee because you're screwing me kind
of sort of by laying my paycheck and so people
are just calling in because they figured nobody's.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Gonna call me on it, right, So kind of on
that subject, are they starve the lazy?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
T shirts and sweatshirts? In our story, they are, oh,
in the hoodies, very attractive. Armstrong and Geeddy dot com
check out the store. This is not an implication that
everyone who needs help is lazy, but there are lots
of lazy people, and those we might say starve the poor.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
It says starve the lazy exactly, exactly, very succinct, very straightforward.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Get your starve the lazy Armstrong and Geddy gear. Wear
it proudly. People ask you about it. Oh my god,
let's start the show. Officially, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe
Getty on this. It is Monday, November third, brand new month.
The rent is do the rent. It's too damn in
the year twenty brother, they're twenty twenty five. That's why
I'm voting mom, Donnie, because the rent's too high. We're
(11:05):
gonna find run man, Donnie. That's not actually right, Doron.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
We're gonna finally get pro finally get rent control in
the city, which has been proven to work everywhere.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Oh, it's always a winner.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
You're twenty twenty five. We are armstrong in getting we
approve of this program.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
You know, I generally don't wear political stuff when I'm
not working, because I talk about it all day long,
and I would just assume talk about the weather. But
the thing I like about the star of the Lazy gear,
and the reason I would be willing to wear that
is if somebody brought it up to me. The answer
is so brilliant and persuasive. It's that social programs are
(11:45):
for people who truly need them, not just people who
are unwilling to work. Well, what about the young mother
who blah blah, Oh no, no, I'm fine with that.
It's just the lazy. We're just talking about the lazy.
And you would have to be either a lunatic or
a communist not to say, yeah, I guess I agree
with you.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Perfectly healthy working age dudes, of which we have millions
who aren't even looking for a job that crowd, for instance,
bingo gringo.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
All right, let's start the show officially according to FCC
rules regulations.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Here we go at Mark, I want to be mayor
so I can deliver a better New York free healthcare
affordable housing, free Wi Fi as mayor can I make
that happen? I'm not sure yet, but together we're gonna
find out that the answer is no.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
That was the faux New York mayoral debate on Saturday
Night Live, with the Mama Donnie character being represented as
someone who's promising things he can't do. Although I don't
think that really matters. It's similar to the Trump running
for election.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
We just signaled directionally where we are, and people vote
for that, knowing that they might not necessarily be able
to do what they're saying, but you know.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
It's gonna be fun to talk about.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
On Wednesday, we got Katie's headlines on the way, lots
of stuff Today's stay right here.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I took the.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Kids to I Hop yesterday, me and two kids, eighty bucks,
and I thought, I remember, it doesn't seem like it
was that long ago, that that'd be like going to
a nice restaurant.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Sorry, that sounds like dinner and a nice bottle of wine.
Perhaps you share a desserts romantic and delicious. Me and
two kids at I Hop. Wow, Yeah, that's crazy. That's
Inflation was the number one issue people were concerned about
on all the pulling that came out over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
This is Donald Trump's America, all right, A lot to
say on that topic tariff.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Soh my gosh, huge Supreme Court to case this to
a week but no time. We got to figure out
who's reporting what. It's the lead story with Katie Green
and Katie Oh geeze, it is getting late jumped to it, Katie,
alrighty Bleacher Report.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Jeff Hoffman takes blame. Feels pretty Essie to cost the
Blue Jays the World Series.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Can't blame a person in a team sport like that.
Lots of opportunities for both teams. It could have gone
either way. Oh, in the stuff that happens early in
the game. Everybody forgets about that.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
But man, that you get as many runs for a
run in the second inning as you do in the eleventh.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Man, that's Dodgers catch where the one outfielder ran over
the other and that would have been the end of
the game. Uh wow.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
How the US economy has defied doomsday predictions on tariffs.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah, I just gonna bring that up. We need to
talk about that. Yeah, that is amazing.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
From the New York Post Mississippi Mom Guns down monkey
that escaped from overturned truck to project protect her children.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
So that is hoomb of the year. Is that the
last one? The last of the diseased monkey's on the
loose that the mom CROs Well, maybe they keep giving
us different numbers to try to cover up their complicity.
And the doctor fauci like unleashing of disease monkeys on
her food. Yeah, and the first one hit your tongue off.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Apparently, this one from study fines one bite of dark
chocolate could sharpen your memory for.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
The next hour. Well that's good for me.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Because I bought the dark chocolate Hershey Kisses for Halloween
and because we didn't have that many kids come by,
I got this big bag of Hershey kids is sitting
on the counter.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
One Hershey's Kisses. Nothing. I'll just have a walk by
five and ittes like everyone more. Is not a very
big deal. It's just a little war. I love the
dark chocolate. Oh, the dark chocolate Hershey's kiss is pretty good.
I've been doing the dark chocolate covered almonds lately.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, that's funny me too.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Until you walk by the bag, you get a couple.
It's an omens let me have one more for me.
That's our fat voice.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Finally, this one from the Babylon Bee all kind of
activating sleeper cells to help get out.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
The vote for Mandami. Oh oh boy, not far off.
You remember the clip of him at that Democratic Socialists
of America gathering said he came to politics through the
quote unquote Palestinian Cause. I also have another Islamist leader admitting, Yeah,
the Palestinian Cause is just wiping out the Jews. That's
(16:20):
just code we use for wiping out the Jews. Trump
threatened some military action over some Islamists that are killing
Christians in Nigeria, which it's gonna be a heck of
a thing if he actually follows through on that. You know,
we got a lot to talk about today to catch
up from the weekend. I hope you can stick around
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Speaker 5 (16:44):
The White House Face is a deadline to payout snap
benefits despite the government shutdown. A federal judge ordered the
Trump administration to start making foodstamp payments today or partial
payments by Wednesday, but it's unclear if the White House
will comply. The Trump administration argued it can't legally use
emergency funds.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
So depending on how that whole thing turns out.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
And that's, of course, assuming the shutdown still going on
by Wednesday, which I think most experts think it will be,
and that'll make it the longest shut down in US history.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I feel like that.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
While it's kind of being portrayed as a like gotcha
to the Republicans, I feel like it's going to delay
any pressure on the right to cave on the whole
shutdown if they because that's the biggest leverage over the
last several weeks anyway. So that benefits the poor, the hungry,
starving people starving, is the point, Gavin Newsom said. And
(17:37):
then if they have to continue with that, okay, then
what's your what's your leverage now? Flying We just got
a text from somebody who said they flew to Boston
back from the West Coast. They had no delays and
they never heard anybody bring it up in the airports
or anywhere at all.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
The shutdown thing.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Again getting to my confusion overpolling that shows eighty percent
of Americans are highly concerned about the shot.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
But now, really, I don't feel that. But now I
gotta call horsecrap on that. Sorry, horsecrap. Yeah, I'm calling
that to manure. I just I can't imagine that to
be true. Of course, you got the media telling you
every day.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
If you take in any media at all, the mainstream
media telling you that it is a crisis, whether you're
feeling it in your life or not, that might affect
some people. You wouldn't even my contention, as the vast
majority of people wouldn't even know it was happening. If
the news wasn't telling you, you should be concerned about
it on a regular basis. Breaking news ish happened Yesterday.
Trump said he will not be attending the Supreme Court
(18:38):
oral arguments on Wednesday. The Supreme Court is going to
have their arguments on Wednesday about whether or not he
has the power to start throwing all these tariffs around
and roiling the world economy as one guy. He's using
some emergency powers to do that. He said he is
going to go on Wednesday because it was such a
big decision and sit there. Other people talked him down
and said it'll look bad and look like he's putting
pressure on the court and all that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, other people meeting everyone, absolutely, everyone from Jadvans to Milania.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And Baron said, don't do that, So he tweeted out
our truth doubt. I will not be going to the
court on Wednesday. I do not want to distract from
the importance of this decision, and he went on to
say it will be, in my opinion, one of the
most important and consequential decisions ever made by the United
States Supreme Court. If we lose, our country could be
reduced to third world status. Pray to God that it
(19:27):
doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well, that's ridiculous. I don't agree with that.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
It's interesting. I don't know anything about this. But Mark
Alprin writes in his newsletter, even if the court rules
against him, there are many workarounds that Trump can use
to continue to tariff if he wants to.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Other different ways. I don't know anything about that. Yeah
I don't. Yeah, yeah, I'm that is getting way way
into the weeds. But it's going to be a hell
of an interest in case, no doubt, if only because
we've already collected a ton of money in tariffs, not
as much as was predicted significantly, but a heck of
(20:04):
a lot and figuring out how to return that if
it turns out they were illegal, because I think we
probably would need to now that could cause quite the
fiscal crisis, as if we don't have one already. But
it's a huge case in a lot of different ways.
Number One, obviously the economic impact of it, because a
(20:24):
heck of a lot of money is trading hands. There's
the power of Trump to make trade deals right now,
and he's already made a bunch of them. Undoing that
would be just crazy economically and a little confusing. There's
the question of the status of the Court and its
willingness to become a hot, hot, hot political football and
(20:48):
specifically go up against a very dynamic president on a big,
big issue for him because the Court, you know, the
Court has to They don't talk about this much, but
they're supposed to be completely a political They just are
our Lady Justice blind with the scales and everything right.
But they're not idiots.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
They understand that if there's a news Joe Getty says,
the Supreme Court not idiots.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Most of them aren't idiots. I'd like to amend my comments,
mister Chairman, but this would be incredibly disruptive and really
really anger the executive branch. And so I've been trying
to read comprehensible theories by legal experts on you know,
how the court might maneuver a way to get the
(21:37):
result they know they need to without utter defiance, open defiance.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
What an example of that being what John Roberts did
on Obamacare. It was a popular president signature legislation passed
by the by Congress, to like, went out of his
way to come up with a way that it was
legal to do that.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, it's not good, No, that was not good, but yes,
they might try to find a way to do that.
You know, it's funny about this whole thing. Not funny
ha ha, but funny. Annoying is that if Congress would
do their damn jobs. This is a question for Congress.
They need to clarify the nineteen seventy seven Emergency Powers Law,
(22:22):
which is nothing about tariffs, nothing about tariffs whatsoever. It's
a stretch to think it includes tariffs. But you know,
they could clarify it tomorrow. Of course they can't because
the government shut down, which is affecting eighty two percent
of US.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I'll admit I was all excited about this ruling until
I read that there are workarounds that he could legally.
You know, it's like the Supreme Court shut down Biden
on bailing out the college kids, but he found other
ways to get around it, the other weird, different complicated laws.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, but maybe that's good news in a way if
they can set the president that And I don't want
to get into the legal weeds into this, partly because
I don't know what I'm talking about. If they could
find a way for Trump to and Trump World to
(23:10):
accept the decision and have some face saving ways to
get around it at the edges, but at the same
time not giving the executive branch the uniality unilateral power
to tax if it has to do with imports, because
the Constitution never dreamed of that. It is not a
constitutional power of the president. It's imports. When when the
(23:33):
you know, George Washington was president, what percentage of the
the economy was imports? I don't know, but it was
definitely lower. So I don't I don't know. This is
a mess. Trump has gone too far and they're going
to rein him in, I think. But we'll say. What's
interesting about this is I've read conservative legal commentators and
(23:54):
it's it's a toss up, toss up rather, nobody knows
exactly which way it's going to go.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
And then the Wall Street Journal article today that the
feared inflation from all the tariffs has not hit the
way it was expected to here in November.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Right, we would feel it in November. Part of that
is that companies thought, oh my god, and they stocked
up like crazy on goods. Plus, there are technical ways
you can get around the TERFF regulations. They have what
are called bonded warehouses, where if I'm an exporter in India,
I have these warehouses and I store goods in India,
(24:38):
but say these are in America now because they're all
going to America. So there they are imported already even
though they're still on Indian territory, and you got warehouses
full of those. Interesting to know about that today, honestly, Yeah,
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Speaker 1 (26:01):
Never forget wow. Letting that go pye four time? I
think four times in a row? Three or four times
in a row. Was the Japan League MVP. Comes to
the United States. The next year he's the World Series MVP.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Well, he was the difference in the World Series, no
doubt about it, no donabout he was the only picture
that Toronto couldn't hit eight games plus two innings that
World Series went innings.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, throws one hundred pitches of ninety two pitches, comes
out and pitches the next day. Nobody does that these days.
So one more note on the whole tariff thing. The
court evidently understands that this is a monster. This is
an eight hundred pound gorilla.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
So they set a brisk schedule for the parties to
submit written briefs and present oral arguments, and they now
seem likely to rule swiftly rather than wait until the
end of the term next summer, which is the usual
practice for most of the Yeah, yeah, you can't wait
to June to say, by the way, all that tear
off stuff between the number one and number two economies
(27:05):
for the past year illegal. I mean, that'd be ridiculous, right.
You gotta announce it like Wednesday afternoon or whenever you
make your decision.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
So you know, to me, the pivotal question in the
case is this nineteen seventy seven law gave the president
certain tools to quote deal with any unusual and extraordinary
threat to the national security, foreign policy, or economy of
the United States.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Talking about the International Emergency Economics Powers.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Act, and that includes the power to quote regulate imports.
Lil vague, right, is we have a trade deficit as
a country with a gigantic consumer spending, you know, base
of our economy having a trade deficit. Is that an
unusual or an extraordinary threat? I say no, I see
(27:54):
understand this, Friends, understand I want to reign in the
wild powers of the executive branch because they're gonna be
in Democrat hands eventually, and with the Democratic Party swinging
to the left, you will praise God that the Supreme
Court existed when that lunatic, if they're elected, is in
the office. You'll be internally grateful that the Supreme Court
(28:18):
found its kahonas imported from Mexico, Oh Tiff. You'll be
thrilled that they had found their cojones and reigned in
executive power when that day comes.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
That's right, cojones are forty percent more expensive because of tariffs.
Now the order them through the mail, want them fresh.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I find myself I got to choose between my rent
and my khonees, especially with the government shutdown.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, Gavin Newsom did a big interview yesterday on Meet
the Press.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I think it was did he actually say anything or
did he just string together a bunch of unrelated phrases.
He's good.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
He's good in that politician good. He's horrible and good
and that politician sort of way. He's good at being
a politician. I don't understand why politicians get over the
way they do on people, because they're almost all full
of crap. But in terms of doing that sport that
is being a politician, he's pretty good at it. I
am not a dead mackerel at midnight.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
He shines and he stinks.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I'm not optimistic about things. We got some clips of
that and other stuff we can get to a little
bit later. We got mail bag coming up.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Stay here.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I didn't come across some zero sugar peanut butter cups
in the store. I didn't buy them because I figure
whatever they're putting in the peanut butter cup to make
it sweet, it's probably worse for me than sugar. Yeah,
that's that's my current stance. Yeah, yeah, let's see, here's
your freedom loving quote of the day. I was.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Motivated to revisit one of the greatest works of English
language writing this ever existed, John Stuart Mills on liberty
over the weekend and beginning a series of quotes some
of the key passages of that brilliant, foundational, irreplaceable argument
(30:15):
in favor of free speech. Aren't we something? Listen to this?
I'm a little fancy. Yes, that's true. Guilty. We'll start
with this, and it has to do with one of
his foundational arguments that liberty can only be limited to
prevent harm to others and more on that. But the
only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over
(30:38):
any member of a civilized community against his will is
to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical
or moral, is not a sufficient warrant.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Oh boy, how far away are we from that? Yeah,
that's against paternalism and Nanni statism. The current hot topic
out of that quote, though, is the question of preventing
harm to others, which is why leftist totalitarians try to
convince you that speech is violence, because fortunately, any civilized
(31:10):
person would agree that violence is the one thing we
can forbid except under special circumstances. And so they've thought,
they've realized, Okay, well, ideas are our greatest enemy.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
So we've got to find a way to outlaw ideas.
I know, say, speech is violence. I have much to
say on this.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Whole government shouldn't do anything just because it would be
good for people.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I want to talk about that again more.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Of course, the delace core problem with that is who's
making this decision on what's good for me?
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Why are they better at this than a me?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
And whose money is being forcefully appropriated to accomplish said goal.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Mail bag talk about that all week. If you want,
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email address. Drop is a note, won't you mail bag
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he writes a bridget and beautiful of heals Burg, California.
I think you a wine country, don't you know? I
think you may have not given enough credit to the
great term you used on Friday's show, All Shocks. As
(32:12):
you poured over the Timothy Lee article about Agi, Joe
usually came up with a perfect metaphor for today's youngster,
which is being created by the ease of life, immedia gratification,
social media, parents who never parented, educational system, et.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Cetera, et cetera. A blob of bitter on Wii. Yes,
I described America's youth as blobs of bitter on Wei.
Heretofore known as bbes or is it Bobie's anyway? Idle
hands are the devil's playthings. Indeed, Yeah, I've got some
good stuff on that from an economics podcast I listened
to over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Can't wait to talk about it. A bunch of bbes.
Dan writes, Guys, you mentioned how chat GPT is designed
to kiss your heini. Absolutely true, and I would like
to apologize in advance for the content of this email.
But I think it's sheer stupidity and grossness proves the point.
I let my six year old niece ask any questions
she wanted to chat GPT. I was talking about the
(33:06):
fact that it flatters you all the time. I could ask,
you know, what's the best place to get a replacement
tube for my bike tire? Excellent question, it will say, No,
it's a basicfing question because I need an fing bike too,
but it's not a great question at all Anyway, the
six year old the text of her question was why
(33:26):
do farts stink? And before it answered, it hit me
with a what an excellent question? Oh god, is it
really gets to the heart of human digestion? Lol, So dumb.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I liked doing that with Groc, like I said something
about how I was rooting for the Blue Jays. Oh man,
I want the blue Jays to win, and Groc said,
I know me too. Isn't it fun rooting for a
plucky team up against the blah blah blah. I mean
they just go with whatever your vibe is to make
you feel this so clearly a deliberate strategy to you know,
answer apomorphon these computer programs so we become more addicted
(34:03):
to them. We've absolutely a story later about Chat something
or other telling a kid to go cut himself, which
is horrifying. We've got teen suicides from the AI characters.
How about this AI please be careful?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Rights Manny put down my two hundred dollars for an
annual subscription to the premium version. Obviously have been challenging
and prompting and pushing my AI chat bought in all
sorts of ways in my own profession, with serious questions
and requests for designs and specifications, and also about religion, philosophy, politics, finance,
home improvement. I've spent a lot of time pushing and
prodding at this thing. His field is a technical one,
(34:43):
and he needs to know how good it is and
how good it isn't I would say anyway, it's amazing
and also amazingly scary how inaccurate and badly misleading it
can be. It is really good at convincing you it's
your friend who's willing to help. But across the line
last night when I asked it to play a simple
game of chess, and I had to shut it down
after ree restarts based on illegal moves, and he goes
into what illegal.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Moves they want, moves like the Bishop of jumping people
or something, yes, specifically the queen well called jack. The
only response I get when I protest is you're right,
I made an illegal move.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Wow, Wow, that is really interesting, because I mean the
rules of chess that's not very complicated, and it can't
even stick with that.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
And I'll use this as his summary. There are a
lot of very smart people spending billions and billions of
dollars building something that they do not fully understand, but
they're selling it like snake oil.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, and as one of the keys. They do not
understand exactly themselves why their AI does what it does.
Which life should trouble you. We've got a lot on
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