April 8, 2025 • 34 mins
Hour 4 of A&G features...
- No more blaming Biden & tariff talk
- It's a wolf with a dye job!
- Man arrested for snarking about head of school in UK
- Final Thoughts!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong
and Jettiety and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
There was a tweet that went out that signaled that
the President may be open to pausing some of these
terrors for ninety days except on China. And when I
was here in the room, there were cheers when that
went out, but quickly the White House said no, no, no,
that's fake news, saying that that's actually not true. And
you saw the Dow climb about nine hundred points and
(00:45):
then fall again.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, so a tweet went out that wasn't accurate and
two point four trillion dollars of market value was added
in minutes. That's hard to wrap your head around. Then
most of it are raced just as quickly when it
turned out that that tweet was inaccurate. But you wouldn't
think that the economy could work that way. We're at
(01:12):
tweet without even like confirming it or discussing it or
or letting talked about happen would move the market two
point four trillion dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Now, this guy's a blue check mark for what that's
worth on Twitter, it's not worth anything. So quite literally,
a guy said something markets went wild. Now here's a twist.
Was that tweet actually inaccurate? Now that the White House
is starting to say much more openly.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're negotiating.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
It's the huge trade barriers forever is not the goal.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Did the Trump team somehow get that tweet out.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Because they were worried it the way things were going, Perhaps,
I've got to believe God to believe.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Because they were. Markets were down as much as the
Dow was down as much as sixteen hundred when we
went on the air yesterday, and I mean another a third,
really bad day would have been a lot of political pressure.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
There might have been panic in the streets.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
And you got to remember the entire administration is that's
a hell of a lot of people. And surely among
that hell of a lot of people, there are at
least a couple of them that were fielding calls from
Ford Motors CEO or some Wall Street to Super Heavyweight
or something and told them, look, no, giant trade barriers
forever is not our goal.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
We're just trying to get better deals. This is a negotiation.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
And they said, oh, thank god, thank god. And they
went and told everybody they wanted to tell, So we're gone.
There might have been people woke up with a horsehead
in their bed. I mean, these are some high stakes here.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
We often mock Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana for his
folksy jokes and whatnot. What he said, and I thought
was a pretty decent point. This is Trump's economy now,
So there's no more for better or worse. There's no
more blaming Biden or things for anything at all. Any
(03:07):
of it is gonna be ring true now it wouldn't
ring true. But so all of it is at Trump's
feet now. And that's totally quite amazing because we are
it is April, ladies and gentlemen. He took over in January.
You could have been able to ride. I inherited a
bad economy for maybe a couple of years possibly, but
(03:30):
that's over. It's your economy now.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
And you know, it's kind of interesting funny from our perspective,
is I have in front of me like giant stories
that would be three days worth of headlines like at
any other point in history, but they didn't even get
noticed in this just flurry of change and policy, and
you know, tariffs and deportations and the rest of it.
(03:53):
It's just dizzying.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So why are the markets up today? Well, here are
some of the backstories that are probably responsible. Politico says
that Treasury Secretary Scott Besant flew to Florida to encourage
Donald Trump to focus his message on negotiating favorable trade
deals or risk the stock market creating creating further, So,
(04:15):
the Treasury sec went and talked to Trump and that
came out also Politico, with Trump had started telling allies
and phone calls yesterday morning that the endgame of the
tariffs would be sooner than people expect, and that the
White House is in talks with multiple countries, stressing that
(04:37):
deals are close to being made. So you don't know
if Trump wanted that it to get into Politico. I mean,
if you say this is going to be over sooner
than people think, and it's just being reported that this
is when it's going to be over, did you get
that message out on purpose? Quite possible? All right, yeah, yeah,
(05:00):
And per the Washington Post, Elon Musk appealed directly to
President Trump to ditch the tariff regime. He wasn't digging
it and Ted Cruz, who has been a pretty big
backer of Donald Trump, said, if President Trump uses this
moment is leverage, that would be a massive victory for
the American people. But there are voices in the White
(05:22):
House that want high tariffs forever. There are angels and
demons sitting on President Trump's shoulders. Who does he listen to?
Oh gosh, I hope it's the angels and not the demons.
But from the Treasury Secretary Elon, Ted Cruz and others
saying yeah, that's enough.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, maybe that's why we are If this ends up
with the post WW two intentional and understandable trade imbalances
that lasted way way too long, the tariff at the
barrier imbalances I'm talking about, if this all ends with
those being restructured in a way that's much more twenty
first entry in farty US manufacturers, that this would be
an enormous victory, absolutely great. I find myself wondering and
(06:08):
I will never Well, maybe I will get the answer,
because everybody always writes books after this stuff is done.
But the like the charts with the numbers and the formulas,
and some of it was hilarious. I mean I don't
care how much you love Trump, you got to admit
announcing a thirty percent terrify on and uninhabited island is
pretty funny. Or an island that's just got penguins, or
(06:30):
an island with whom we do zero trade and never.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Have that of all, the penguin means the one where
the penguin is sitting in the chair in the Oval
office like Zelenski and Trump is yelling at him you
don't have the cards, and the penguin looks so aw.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I don't care who you are. That's funny. But here's
my question. Was that at least semi intentionally chaotic and
crazy because Trump likes to well, you know, the Art
of the deal takes it talks about this. He he
likes to inject so much stress and angst and turbulence
into negotiations people are anxious to come to a deal.
(07:11):
Was that intentional or was it just way too fast
and sloppy unintentionally?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
So we have a new Supreme Court ruling, different topic now.
The Supreme Court said the Trump administration can move forward
with the termination of sixteen thousand probationary federal workers across
six agencies and departments.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Wow, okay, that's good. Well that's a can What the
hell is the executive branch. No, if it's one way ratchet,
all you can do is.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Grow please, And so that's rescinding a lower court order.
And I realized sometimes judges disagree, but was this a
you know what Elon was talking about the other day.
A judge is as much a politician that as a
judge that just didn't like Trump and Elon and Doge
and all that sort of stuff, trying to shut it
down because the Supreme Court said, nah ah, he can
(08:00):
do that. He fired sixteen thousand probationary people. And like
you said, if he can't, well then what.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
The thing you have to remember about progressive judges, a
lot of them and not everybody appointed by Obama for instance,
is like an avowed progressive nut.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
A lot of them are. But the thing you have
to remember about them.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Is they they rule for a result, not a strict
interpretation of the Constitution in the law. They will really
stretch the law to get the result they want. That's
what progressive judges has done since the early part of
the twentieth century, and that's why it's so frustrating because
they just they see their job differently than a conservative
judge would.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Back to the tariff thing. Just to wrap it up. So,
Peter Navarro, who is the guy really pushing it on
all the TV shows and advising Trump on this you've
probably seen.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I think he's one of Ted Cruz's demons.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah. Well, Elon musk And on Twitter today has called
Peter Navarro a moron. And what did he call him?
Dumbas a sack of bricks.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yes, that is correct, that's a perfect recitation of the epithet.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yes, that is the modern era we live in. Back
in the old days, you de said, I believe the
gentleman from Kentucky may be confused in his numbers when
he posits that. Know, now you say he's dumb as
a sack of bricks. Peter Navarro was on Laura Ingram
last night and said, I'm telling you this is going
to be a Golden age Dow fifty thousand. I guarantee that,
(09:31):
and I guarantee no recession. When we passed the biggest
broadest tax cut in history. This is going to be
great stimulus, etcetera, etcetera. Well, right, and he just stated
to her out and out. We are going to be
you know, I'm paraphrasing, but we're going to have huge tariffs,
We're going to manufacture everything for ourselves. We're going to
be a self reliant you know, the high Wall economy.
And I saw that and thought, oh, for God's sake, no, Well,
(09:54):
as it turns out, probably no.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I like that stuff. Taking shots at people from Harvard too.
Still have that in front of you.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh yeah, for Thomas Sowell, this is that is really good.
I should remember that for the rest of my life.
Wonder when he said that how many years ago he
said that, because I would like to keep that in
my uh my holster if you will.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Can paraphrase that if it's not handy, but I'd like.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
To get it exactly right.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Go ahead, Well, hang on a second, Uh, let me
see if I can find it, because you're right, he's
such a brilliant writer. Yeah, he essentially said there's been
no great disaster in this country that there wasn't somebody
(10:45):
from Harvard right in.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
The middle of right and he's Elon retweeted that, referring
to Peter Navarro the aforementioned sack O bricks.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, the other thing he said that I think as
good as the principal benefit of a Harvard degree is
never again having to be impressed by anyone with a
Harvard degree.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
A sack of bricks has really no IQ whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I mean, it's very intellectually speaking, really not impressed.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Okay, so we'll look at the Supreme Court ruling a
little bit, see if there's anything more to that, and
some other stuff on the way.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Stay.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Our economy is in the midst of a beautiful metamorphosis,
turning from a simple caterpillar into a dead caterpillar.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
It's a good punch.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Line, funny last night. He's pretty anti.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Trump, of course, but all right, So cleaning up the
mess from last segments, Thomas Sowell. In every disaster throat
American history, there always seems to be a man from
Harvard in the middle of it.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, love Thomas anyway. So this is just funny and
ironic and denoying. Have you ever heard of Johnny Kim.
He is forty one years old. He was successfully a
Navy seal, a Harvard educated doctor, and a NASA astronaut,
(12:29):
and he has become quite the meme, I guess among
Asian people. The theme being thank God my mom isn't
friends with his mom, getting to the whole tiger mom
superachieving Asian thing. It doesn't matter how much you've achieved,
you're falling short of Johnny Kim Navy seal, Harvard Med
(12:51):
School graduate, and on Tuesday blasted off as part of
his latest act, astronaut. I'm sure he is penning a
best selling novel in space that will make him completely
unattainable and insufferable. It's the son of South Korean immigrants. No,
(13:11):
this isn't the line of opportunity, Bruce Springstein. Then still
in the live that you can get ahead in America.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Oh my god, um, I want to make sure you
hear it here because you can see the story all
day long. That freaking dire wolf is not a dire wolf.
It's a gray wolf with white hair. All right, that's it.
That's the end of the story.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It's a regular wolf with a die job.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Please, I mean, look into it. It's true.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Let's play that ABC clip again, okay, just that we
need to drive a steak through the heart, the still
beating heart of a vampire of mainstream media.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Drive it, Michael, drive it.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
In a first for science biotech company Colossal Bioscience.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
It says it.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Brought the extinct dire wolf back to life that hasn't
want the earth since the Stone Age.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
We've taken a gray wolf genome, which is already genetically
ninety nine point five percent identical to dire wolves, and
we've edited those cells at multiple places in its DNA
sequence to contain the dire wolf version of the DNA.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
The company tells us they're not stopping there. They plan
to have wooly mammoths roaming the earth again by twenty
twenty eight, but critics argue that this de extinction could
harm fragile ecosystems.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
No, critics should argue that you shouldn't actually bring back
the dire wolf.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Not even close.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
It's like Joe Mocking couple weeks ago. Was it the
same company with their hairy elephants.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, exactly. They're not bringing back the wooly mammoths. They've
introduced a gene into regular elephants that make the hairer.
That's it. Critics say, no, critics say they didn't make
an effing dire wolves, all right, and I love that lead.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
The company says, yeah, okay, I have a tyrannosaurce Rex
in my basement.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I feed it cows. Radio reports say that this man
has a terreno source Rex.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
ABC News. You're just you're, you're, you're just entertainment for moron,
Holy crep. To even hint that you're a journalist and
then do that report is absurd.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. The Today
version of NBC, their headline was extinct dire wolf seen
on Game of Thrones has been revived. No it hasn't. Wow, Wow, Shane.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
It's like pointing to a hairy Italian guy and saying,
we have recreated the sasquatch.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
No, you haven't. You bred a wolf that's kind of
big and has light fur and like the Yahoo News.
Of course it's got Yahoo right in the name of
you expected to. The revival of the once think to
dire wolf species has everyone asking the same thing, what
animal is next? No? Anybody, I for brain is asking
(16:08):
did you really let me look a little further into this? No,
you didn't. Is the dodo next? Dinosaurs? People, shad Park. Yeah,
the dinosaurs will eat the dodos. If they run out
of dodos, they'll bring down a Willie mammoth. Yes, that's
going to happen. So now you have hairy elephants and
white regular wolves. Whoop be.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Yeh, I've got a saber toothed tiger in my backyard.
You can't look at it.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Oh boy, that's good. More on the waist to hear.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Ugh Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Five seconds to shark top of the key.
Speaker 8 (16:47):
Lost the dribble, He's got to pick it up. It's
scripped up by content content SETUSA had drawn a found
a way from twelve down to the school's third national
championship in men's basketball.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
So that's Florida winning the national championship last time. In
that last couple of minutes, the defense Florida played was amazing.
That's what you don't see. Like you said earlier, the
NBA doesn't play defense. That's not the way the league
is structured anymore. So when you see it, it's like, oh, yeah,
that could be part of the game too.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Oh and it requires so much energy to play that
sort of swarming, suffocating defense. But oh it makes it
hard to score baskets for sure.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah, really exciting.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
So I am so troubled by what's happening in Great
Britain for a couple of reasons. And what's happening is,
essentially they've really really chucked a lot of the bedrock
principles that we at least partially shared about free speech,
free expression, the idea that you don't have the right
(17:49):
to not be offended. Just because you're offended doesn't mean
you're right. And I'm reminded, as i often am, of
Reagan's great quote that freedom is never more than one
generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our
children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected
and handed on to them to do the same, or
one day we will spend our sunset years telling our
children and our children's children what it was once like
(18:11):
in the United States when men were free. Ooh, that's
a great quote, and it's not alarmism. He's absolutely right
to wit. And I'm going to quote some from Nelly Bowles,
who is both very very smart and very very funny,
but she says what's going on in Britain. The Sentencing
Council for England and Wales was hours away from implementing
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a new criminal code that would have required different procedures
for sentencing ethnic minorities for crimes. They would have had
two sentencing systems, at least one for white people and
no one for non white people, which is like the
bizarro not comparative justice restorative justice procedures of some of
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our woke schools in the university universities. At the last minute,
the Ministry of Justice planned emergency legislation to stop it.
As the Guardian said, the Sentencing Council cave to pressure
and Nelly right, putting aside that justice should be race blind.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Obviously.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
There's an interesting note here on the idea of a minority.
There are straight up two billion people in South Asia,
many of whom want to move to England, while the
total population of England and Wales is something like sixty million.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
So two billion to sixty million.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
The plan was to give gentler sentencing for any of
those two billion who have arrived or will arrive in
the future. Just seems hard to sustain. Makes me a
little sorry for the ethnic English. Then she makes a
joke that kind of lands. Then in their own native
land they want to give themselves harsher punishment by dint
of their own ethnicity. Sad strange death by politeness. That's
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just one of several examples, so I'll give you one more.
In free speech news on the Island, a Times radio
producer was arrested a few months ago, and this week
he told his story. He was arrested by the police.
Now he explains, quote I complained about my daughter's school
on What's app then six police officers turned up. The
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video of him was talking about what happened, paired with
the footage of arrest is truly incredible.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I'll see if we can get you a link at
onstring getty dot com.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
High His arrest was on suspicion of quote harassment and
malicious communications for being in a group chat snarking about
the new.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Head of the school.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
The most defensive thing I could find, right snelly that
the Times radio producer's wife referred to a school leader
as a control freak and for that he was arrested
by the British police for quote unquote harassment and malicious communications.
Can you imagine that sort of incursion against free speech
in the United States. If the woke British declare somebody
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beyond criticism, you dare not criticize them or you will
be jailed.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
That is great Britain.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
There are more examples of this, but I will end
with a bit of humor before we get onto a brilliant,
brilliant quote. England's economy is so sad, and they think
the problem is that they need to grow faster deeprivilege
more as though anyone thinks those castles have central air.
In my opinion, there's no saving them. All we can
do is treat their ideas like Ebola builds seawalls around
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their island. They are America's intellectual parent, but like all
elderly relatives, there comes a time to throw them off
a cliff, give ourselves a new name, and never speak
to our siblings again.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
That's funny, it is. So I'm on this salmon rushdie kick.
I'm not exactly sure how I got on it. If
you don't know or remember, he wrote a book in
the eighties, way back in the eighties called The Satanic
Verses that for whatever reason, the Islamic world went nuts
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over it was minor, a minor thing. He didn't feel
like he'd written a controversial book at.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
All, really, and threats to your freedom Islamism.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
But people who hadn't even read the book, particularly in Iran,
went nuts over it, and then the Ayatola went nuts
over it and said that Salomon Rushdi the author, needed
to die. And then his home country of India banned
the book, to his great dismay, and then that kicked
off countries all around the world banning the book, and
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it just grew and grew and grow, and he had
to go into hiding for think a dozen years, ending
with by the way whatever it was two years ago
when he was almost killed on stage in the United
States of America by a Muslim who was still angry
about that book, who, of course, he had never read.
The kid had never read it. He was a twenty
four year old job who lived with his parents, had
never read the book, stabbed out Rushdie's eye, cut his
(22:47):
throat only because he didn't know what he was doing.
Did he not killed the guy? But I'm reading Rushdie's
memoir called what is it called?
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Something that doesn't written that damn book.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
That's funny.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
I'm sure I'm glad he wrote the book.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Uh that comes goes Jess Joseph Anton is the name
of the book, because that's the name he went by
when he was in hiding. Uh. And he had protection
from basically like the Secret Service of England. He's a
guy who's been living in England and he went to
Oxford and been living in England his whole life, and
he was so disappointed when this very first happens. So
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this fits in with the free speech stuff and also
the Muslim immigration stuff that's been going on in Europe.
So he writes this book. Even if it had been
flat out a book that said Mohammad was a gay pedophile,
I mean, like it didn't. But like, even if it
had been like over the top critical, you still should
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be able to write that book in Western civilization. It's
crazy that you couldn't. But he didn't write anything even
close to that. But people on the left, like artists
on the left, came out and said he shouldn't have
written the book. Margaret Thatcher on the right said that
he shouldn't have written a book and that sort of
thing shouldn't happen because everybody was so scared of Islam
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that you know, we shouldn't criticize them, which is crazy.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Well everybody.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
It reminds me of the beliefs about, you know, domesticating
the Chinese. The belief was that, look, if we just
if we're cool and not at all combative, they won't
be combative to us and try to take over the
world in the name of sharia law, so let's be nice.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
All kinds of people, right left and center of politics
backed down to the Muslim crazies rather than stand up
for free speech and free expression and all that sort
of stuff. Quite a few people were killed. I think
a total of fifteen people died through this whole thing,
including the Japanese translator who was murdered for translating the
book into Japanese there in their country. Just just craziness,
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absolute craziness. Well, here is Saman Rushdi talking about how
disappoint that he is, and he I don't know when
he said this, but it's since he got his eye
carved out by the nutjobs in the last couple of years.
Disappointed in the younger generation.
Speaker 9 (25:09):
I feel kind of disappointed in the younger generation because
it used to be that it was kind of old
fogies like me who were conservative about what could be
said and what was wrong to say, and young people
were iconoclastic and you let it all hang out. And
now it's the other way out. It's an older generation
that still holds on to traditional ideas of free expression.
(25:31):
But the fact that there's a generation growing up which
is willing to suppress speech which it doesn't like is
extremely alarming because I mean that simple definition of free speech,
in order for it to be free, it has to
include speech by people you don't agree with otherwise not
free speech. And there's an increasing feeling that that's the
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kind of wrong way of thinking.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
He's from the atheist hippie generation of the sixties and seventies,
and you know, the young people were the you know,
the people that stood up for that, as he just said,
and now it's the other way around. It's only the
old people that still remember the importance of it, and
the young crowd is no, no, no, free speech is bad.
Too much free speech, that's right.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Need lockstep adherence to what we've been inductrinated into. They
wonn't say that out loud, but that's precisely what they mean.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
So you got the free speech aspect of this conversation
and then the the fundamentalist Muslim aspect of this. So
I because I'm on this kick, I was watching some
old sixty minutes interviews with Salmon Rushti one way back
in the eighties when he was in hiding, and then
one from recently after he was almost assassinated. But they're
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showing these clips from various parts of the country with
young Muslim men almost entirely in the streets, just insanely
enraged still over this book that they've never read, just
because they were told it was bad. It's so pre Enlightenment,
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pre age of reason.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
It's just craziness, right, which is one of the reasons
it's so scary that the postmodernist neomarxist woke crowd, they're
like post Enlightenment, but pre Enlightenment. They think appeal to
objective facts, science to data is wrong. Somehow, it's just
your beliefs. That's the only thing that matters. And it
(27:26):
aligns very nicely with fundamentalist religious lunatics. And then the
fact that and the funny thing is the religious lunatics
would throw them off a building. Absolutely they were in charge. Absolutely,
here's for Palestine.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It's amazing that in so many places around the world
in Europe is way worse that that's the added than us.
And we went too far at various times since nine
to eleven in terms of bending over backwards to accommodate
a crazy culture that has no room for any other
point of view?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Don't you see the paradox there? I don't see how
more people don't see the paradox there the conundrum where
that's not gonna fit If you've got a group of
people who don't believe in a different point of view.
You can't say we're going to allow your point of
view because we allow all points of view. If they
end up dominating your point of view and all others
go away, you see.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, do you have a duty to support the right
of totalitarians to pitch totalitarianism in the name of a
diversity of viewpoints? It's a great paradox. So one more
thought and you, Jack, you may have read this too.
I can't remember, oh where I read this, but it
made a hell of an impression on me.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
It was a description of a scene of the.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Stoning of a young woman who is accused of adultery
in Afghanistan, And.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
How could that still be going on in the world?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I know, and and the evidence was thin at best,
but that doesn't really matter. No, But the fun part
of the description that really made an impression on me
was the description of how there was really a fairly
small percentage of the crowd that was in favor of
this and were such vehement, devout fundamentalist lunatics that they
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wanted to see this young girl's skull crushed for the
sin of being seen with a man. But everybody had
to outdo each other in signs of fervor and hatred
toward this girl lest they be reported as probably an infidel.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
And soft Unshuria law.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
And so everybody went through this performative viciousness that spread
through the crowd, and everybody checked their conscience and allowed
themselves to get fired up. Then when it was all over,
you know, they congratulating each other and all shuffled home
feeling terrible feelings of guilt and conflict in their hearts.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Performative viciousness. That's exactly what was going on with the
whole Salmon Rushdie Satanic versus thing. And he was pointing
out that at the time there in the late eighties,
there are people going on BBC television and radio talking
about how like Muslim clerics going on TV and seeing
how someone rush Tee should be killed for this, and
(30:15):
that was airing where anything close to that the other
direction is against the law in Great Britain. That's sort of.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Giving offense to a religion, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
But toward him from Islam, they could threaten his life
and get away.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
With it, right yep.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Wow, way to stand up for Western civilization, grits.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Wow, We'll finish strong next strong, very deep.
Speaker 10 (30:40):
Inside this mine in western Pennsylvania is a little known
government office that handles a critical mission for the federal workforce.
It can take months for the Office of Personnel Management
to process a case, potentially delaying retiree benefits. The facility
has literally miles of files, some twenty six thousand filing
cabinets filled with retirement paperwork, some of them stacked ten
(31:01):
hot dose engineers are working to create a fully digital
experience with federal retirees, the hopeful, happy customers.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
You've heard about the mine. We've talked about it, and
Elon's talked about it a lot. But there's nothing wrong
with holding that up as an example, because if that
can happen, anything can happen. In terms of it, you're
not being efficient.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I'm picturing people in I was going to say like
Silicon Valley, but just like in the insurance company saying
they're going to digitize their records. When's that clip from
like nineteen ninety two or something. No, no, now, now
we still have filing cabinets full of paper, and that's
currently and that's not yesterdayear If somebody retires today, that's
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how they handle it.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
And like I said, if that can happen, anything can
happen in terms of inefficiency.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Oh yeah, but Elon's a Nazi paint as cars the hell.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
Well.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Seriously, there's times I look around and think I want
to become a dog trainer or or run the monkey
house at the zoo or something like that, because human
beings are they're just too strange.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Those are very different jobs you should choose carefully.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (32:16):
True, I have some final thoughts, and some people say
they are the greatest final thoughts they've ever heard. But
if you look at what's happening, I would have to
say Armstrong and Getty have some wonderful final thoughts. They
are right up there with Abraham Lincoln and everybody knows it.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I mean, being a dog trainer is a lot different
than running the monkey house, So I don't know, I
would think it a lot of pooh either way, here's
your host for final thoughts at Joe Getty.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
It flies around more at the monkey House.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Certainly, Hey, let's get a finel thought from everybody on
the CREWI wrap things up for the day.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Michael Aigelo lead us off.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
I'm gonna find the saddest movie this weekend playing in the theaters.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
And then, during a quiet moment in the film, y'all
chicken jockey.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That's funny. I would laugh so hard if somebody said.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
You'd probably be beaten with many fists. Katie Green are esteemed amusewoman.
As a final thought, Katie.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I was looking at these dire Wolves and the pups
that they made are pretty cute. They are cute, and
I want one.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I'm gonna listen to the Grateful Dead. It's my favorite
dead song, dire Wolf, Don't murder Me. I beg you
please don't murder me.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Jack.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Final thought, I'm wearing a suit today, as I often do.
The average man feels two thirds more confident in a suit,
and I feel like I do.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Yes, excellent. I beg of you don't murder me. Gotta
get the lyrics right.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
My final thought, I'm going to seed to me A
love who wrote a beautiful farewell wish to America she
passed away recently. My living wish and fervent prayer for
you in this nation is that the America I've known
is the America you fight to preserve. And then each citizen,
every leader, will do their part to ensure that the
America we know will be the America our grandchildren and
great grandchildren will inhance.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Armstrong and Getty wrap pick up another grueling for our workday.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
So many people, thanks so a little time. Go to Armstrong,
Getty dot Com. Great hot links, Katie's corner. You got
your swag if you bought one at A and g hood.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Yet people love them. I love them, You'll love them.
Drop snow nail bag and Armstrong in Getty dot com.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
I don't realize Florida had a guy on their team
that's seven foot nine. Championship's gonna have an asterisk next
to it. Seven foot slam dunk sitting down. See you tomorrow,
God bless America.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
A mixed finish on arm.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Strong and Getty.
Speaker 9 (34:31):
You're kind of disappointed.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Heck yes, Audio smofo, this was a huge mistake. Correct, yep? Absolutely?
Are you sure?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Oh, I've been thinking that we really all need a
tremendous hug.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Look, I think that's sort of deeper.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Problem here is get the hell out of here. It's
rather preposterous, isn't it. Screw it, I'm leaving, arms strong
and getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong
and Jettiety and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
There was a tweet that went out that signaled that
the President may be open to pausing some of these
terrors for ninety days except on China. And when I
was here in the room, there were cheers when that
went out, but quickly the White House said no, no, no,
that's fake news, saying that that's actually not true. And
you saw the Dow climb about nine hundred points and
(00:45):
then fall again.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, so a tweet went out that wasn't accurate and
two point four trillion dollars of market value was added
in minutes. That's hard to wrap your head around. Then
most of it are raced just as quickly when it
turned out that that tweet was inaccurate. But you wouldn't
think that the economy could work that way. We're at
(01:12):
tweet without even like confirming it or discussing it or
or letting talked about happen would move the market two
point four trillion dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Now, this guy's a blue check mark for what that's
worth on Twitter, it's not worth anything. So quite literally,
a guy said something markets went wild. Now here's a twist.
Was that tweet actually inaccurate? Now that the White House
is starting to say much more openly.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're negotiating.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
It's the huge trade barriers forever is not the goal.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Did the Trump team somehow get that tweet out.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Because they were worried it the way things were going, Perhaps,
I've got to believe God to believe.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Because they were. Markets were down as much as the
Dow was down as much as sixteen hundred when we
went on the air yesterday, and I mean another a third,
really bad day would have been a lot of political pressure.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
There might have been panic in the streets.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
And you got to remember the entire administration is that's
a hell of a lot of people. And surely among
that hell of a lot of people, there are at
least a couple of them that were fielding calls from
Ford Motors CEO or some Wall Street to Super Heavyweight
or something and told them, look, no, giant trade barriers
forever is not our goal.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
We're just trying to get better deals. This is a negotiation.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
And they said, oh, thank god, thank god. And they
went and told everybody they wanted to tell, So we're gone.
There might have been people woke up with a horsehead
in their bed. I mean, these are some high stakes here.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
We often mock Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana for his
folksy jokes and whatnot. What he said, and I thought
was a pretty decent point. This is Trump's economy now,
So there's no more for better or worse. There's no
more blaming Biden or things for anything at all. Any
(03:07):
of it is gonna be ring true now it wouldn't
ring true. But so all of it is at Trump's
feet now. And that's totally quite amazing because we are
it is April, ladies and gentlemen. He took over in January.
You could have been able to ride. I inherited a
bad economy for maybe a couple of years possibly, but
(03:30):
that's over. It's your economy now.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
And you know, it's kind of interesting funny from our perspective,
is I have in front of me like giant stories
that would be three days worth of headlines like at
any other point in history, but they didn't even get
noticed in this just flurry of change and policy, and
you know, tariffs and deportations and the rest of it.
(03:53):
It's just dizzying.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So why are the markets up today? Well, here are
some of the backstories that are probably responsible. Politico says
that Treasury Secretary Scott Besant flew to Florida to encourage
Donald Trump to focus his message on negotiating favorable trade
deals or risk the stock market creating creating further, So,
(04:15):
the Treasury sec went and talked to Trump and that
came out also Politico, with Trump had started telling allies
and phone calls yesterday morning that the endgame of the
tariffs would be sooner than people expect, and that the
White House is in talks with multiple countries, stressing that
(04:37):
deals are close to being made. So you don't know
if Trump wanted that it to get into Politico. I mean,
if you say this is going to be over sooner
than people think, and it's just being reported that this
is when it's going to be over, did you get
that message out on purpose? Quite possible? All right, yeah, yeah,
(05:00):
And per the Washington Post, Elon Musk appealed directly to
President Trump to ditch the tariff regime. He wasn't digging
it and Ted Cruz, who has been a pretty big
backer of Donald Trump, said, if President Trump uses this
moment is leverage, that would be a massive victory for
the American people. But there are voices in the White
(05:22):
House that want high tariffs forever. There are angels and
demons sitting on President Trump's shoulders. Who does he listen to?
Oh gosh, I hope it's the angels and not the demons.
But from the Treasury Secretary Elon, Ted Cruz and others
saying yeah, that's enough.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, maybe that's why we are If this ends up
with the post WW two intentional and understandable trade imbalances
that lasted way way too long, the tariff at the
barrier imbalances I'm talking about, if this all ends with
those being restructured in a way that's much more twenty
first entry in farty US manufacturers, that this would be
an enormous victory, absolutely great. I find myself wondering and
(06:08):
I will never Well, maybe I will get the answer,
because everybody always writes books after this stuff is done.
But the like the charts with the numbers and the formulas,
and some of it was hilarious. I mean I don't
care how much you love Trump, you got to admit
announcing a thirty percent terrify on and uninhabited island is
pretty funny. Or an island that's just got penguins, or
(06:30):
an island with whom we do zero trade and never.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Have that of all, the penguin means the one where
the penguin is sitting in the chair in the Oval
office like Zelenski and Trump is yelling at him you
don't have the cards, and the penguin looks so aw.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I don't care who you are. That's funny. But here's
my question. Was that at least semi intentionally chaotic and
crazy because Trump likes to well, you know, the Art
of the deal takes it talks about this. He he
likes to inject so much stress and angst and turbulence
into negotiations people are anxious to come to a deal.
(07:11):
Was that intentional or was it just way too fast
and sloppy unintentionally?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
So we have a new Supreme Court ruling, different topic now.
The Supreme Court said the Trump administration can move forward
with the termination of sixteen thousand probationary federal workers across
six agencies and departments.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Wow, okay, that's good. Well that's a can What the
hell is the executive branch. No, if it's one way ratchet,
all you can do is.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Grow please, And so that's rescinding a lower court order.
And I realized sometimes judges disagree, but was this a
you know what Elon was talking about the other day.
A judge is as much a politician that as a
judge that just didn't like Trump and Elon and Doge
and all that sort of stuff, trying to shut it
down because the Supreme Court said, nah ah, he can
(08:00):
do that. He fired sixteen thousand probationary people. And like
you said, if he can't, well then what.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
The thing you have to remember about progressive judges, a
lot of them and not everybody appointed by Obama for instance,
is like an avowed progressive nut.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
A lot of them are. But the thing you have
to remember about them.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Is they they rule for a result, not a strict
interpretation of the Constitution in the law. They will really
stretch the law to get the result they want. That's
what progressive judges has done since the early part of
the twentieth century, and that's why it's so frustrating because
they just they see their job differently than a conservative
judge would.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Back to the tariff thing. Just to wrap it up. So,
Peter Navarro, who is the guy really pushing it on
all the TV shows and advising Trump on this you've
probably seen.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I think he's one of Ted Cruz's demons.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah. Well, Elon musk And on Twitter today has called
Peter Navarro a moron. And what did he call him?
Dumbas a sack of bricks.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yes, that is correct, that's a perfect recitation of the epithet.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yes, that is the modern era we live in. Back
in the old days, you de said, I believe the
gentleman from Kentucky may be confused in his numbers when
he posits that. Know, now you say he's dumb as
a sack of bricks. Peter Navarro was on Laura Ingram
last night and said, I'm telling you this is going
to be a Golden age Dow fifty thousand. I guarantee that,
(09:31):
and I guarantee no recession. When we passed the biggest
broadest tax cut in history. This is going to be
great stimulus, etcetera, etcetera. Well, right, and he just stated
to her out and out. We are going to be
you know, I'm paraphrasing, but we're going to have huge tariffs,
We're going to manufacture everything for ourselves. We're going to
be a self reliant you know, the high Wall economy.
And I saw that and thought, oh, for God's sake, no, Well,
(09:54):
as it turns out, probably no.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I like that stuff. Taking shots at people from Harvard too.
Still have that in front of you.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh yeah, for Thomas Sowell, this is that is really good.
I should remember that for the rest of my life.
Wonder when he said that how many years ago he
said that, because I would like to keep that in
my uh my holster if you will.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Can paraphrase that if it's not handy, but I'd like.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
To get it exactly right.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Go ahead, Well, hang on a second, Uh, let me
see if I can find it, because you're right, he's
such a brilliant writer. Yeah, he essentially said there's been
no great disaster in this country that there wasn't somebody
(10:45):
from Harvard right in.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
The middle of right and he's Elon retweeted that, referring
to Peter Navarro the aforementioned sack O bricks.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, the other thing he said that I think as
good as the principal benefit of a Harvard degree is
never again having to be impressed by anyone with a
Harvard degree.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
A sack of bricks has really no IQ whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I mean, it's very intellectually speaking, really not impressed.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Okay, so we'll look at the Supreme Court ruling a
little bit, see if there's anything more to that, and
some other stuff on the way.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Stay.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Our economy is in the midst of a beautiful metamorphosis,
turning from a simple caterpillar into a dead caterpillar.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
It's a good punch.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Line, funny last night. He's pretty anti.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Trump, of course, but all right, So cleaning up the
mess from last segments, Thomas Sowell. In every disaster throat
American history, there always seems to be a man from
Harvard in the middle of it.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, love Thomas anyway. So this is just funny and
ironic and denoying. Have you ever heard of Johnny Kim.
He is forty one years old. He was successfully a
Navy seal, a Harvard educated doctor, and a NASA astronaut,
(12:29):
and he has become quite the meme, I guess among
Asian people. The theme being thank God my mom isn't
friends with his mom, getting to the whole tiger mom
superachieving Asian thing. It doesn't matter how much you've achieved,
you're falling short of Johnny Kim Navy seal, Harvard Med
(12:51):
School graduate, and on Tuesday blasted off as part of
his latest act, astronaut. I'm sure he is penning a
best selling novel in space that will make him completely
unattainable and insufferable. It's the son of South Korean immigrants. No,
(13:11):
this isn't the line of opportunity, Bruce Springstein. Then still
in the live that you can get ahead in America.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Oh my god, um, I want to make sure you
hear it here because you can see the story all
day long. That freaking dire wolf is not a dire wolf.
It's a gray wolf with white hair. All right, that's it.
That's the end of the story.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It's a regular wolf with a die job.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Please, I mean, look into it. It's true.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Let's play that ABC clip again, okay, just that we
need to drive a steak through the heart, the still
beating heart of a vampire of mainstream media.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Drive it, Michael, drive it.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
In a first for science biotech company Colossal Bioscience.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
It says it.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
Brought the extinct dire wolf back to life that hasn't
want the earth since the Stone Age.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
We've taken a gray wolf genome, which is already genetically
ninety nine point five percent identical to dire wolves, and
we've edited those cells at multiple places in its DNA
sequence to contain the dire wolf version of the DNA.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
The company tells us they're not stopping there. They plan
to have wooly mammoths roaming the earth again by twenty
twenty eight, but critics argue that this de extinction could
harm fragile ecosystems.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
No, critics should argue that you shouldn't actually bring back
the dire wolf.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Not even close.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
It's like Joe Mocking couple weeks ago. Was it the
same company with their hairy elephants.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, exactly. They're not bringing back the wooly mammoths. They've
introduced a gene into regular elephants that make the hairer.
That's it. Critics say, no, critics say they didn't make
an effing dire wolves, all right, and I love that lead.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
The company says, yeah, okay, I have a tyrannosaurce Rex
in my basement.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I feed it cows. Radio reports say that this man
has a terreno source Rex.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
ABC News. You're just you're, you're, you're just entertainment for moron,
Holy crep. To even hint that you're a journalist and
then do that report is absurd.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. The Today
version of NBC, their headline was extinct dire wolf seen
on Game of Thrones has been revived. No it hasn't. Wow, Wow, Shane.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
It's like pointing to a hairy Italian guy and saying,
we have recreated the sasquatch.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
No, you haven't. You bred a wolf that's kind of
big and has light fur and like the Yahoo News.
Of course it's got Yahoo right in the name of
you expected to. The revival of the once think to
dire wolf species has everyone asking the same thing, what
animal is next? No? Anybody, I for brain is asking
(16:08):
did you really let me look a little further into this? No,
you didn't. Is the dodo next? Dinosaurs? People, shad Park. Yeah,
the dinosaurs will eat the dodos. If they run out
of dodos, they'll bring down a Willie mammoth. Yes, that's
going to happen. So now you have hairy elephants and
white regular wolves. Whoop be.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Yeh, I've got a saber toothed tiger in my backyard.
You can't look at it.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Oh boy, that's good. More on the waist to hear.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Ugh Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Five seconds to shark top of the key.
Speaker 8 (16:47):
Lost the dribble, He's got to pick it up. It's
scripped up by content content SETUSA had drawn a found
a way from twelve down to the school's third national
championship in men's basketball.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
So that's Florida winning the national championship last time. In
that last couple of minutes, the defense Florida played was amazing.
That's what you don't see. Like you said earlier, the
NBA doesn't play defense. That's not the way the league
is structured anymore. So when you see it, it's like, oh, yeah,
that could be part of the game too.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Oh and it requires so much energy to play that
sort of swarming, suffocating defense. But oh it makes it
hard to score baskets for sure.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah, really exciting.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
So I am so troubled by what's happening in Great
Britain for a couple of reasons. And what's happening is,
essentially they've really really chucked a lot of the bedrock
principles that we at least partially shared about free speech,
free expression, the idea that you don't have the right
(17:49):
to not be offended. Just because you're offended doesn't mean
you're right. And I'm reminded, as i often am, of
Reagan's great quote that freedom is never more than one
generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our
children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected
and handed on to them to do the same, or
one day we will spend our sunset years telling our
children and our children's children what it was once like
(18:11):
in the United States when men were free. Ooh, that's
a great quote, and it's not alarmism. He's absolutely right
to wit. And I'm going to quote some from Nelly Bowles,
who is both very very smart and very very funny,
but she says what's going on in Britain. The Sentencing
Council for England and Wales was hours away from implementing
(18:32):
a new criminal code that would have required different procedures
for sentencing ethnic minorities for crimes. They would have had
two sentencing systems, at least one for white people and
no one for non white people, which is like the
bizarro not comparative justice restorative justice procedures of some of
(18:56):
our woke schools in the university universities. At the last minute,
the Ministry of Justice planned emergency legislation to stop it.
As the Guardian said, the Sentencing Council cave to pressure
and Nelly right, putting aside that justice should be race blind.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Obviously.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
There's an interesting note here on the idea of a minority.
There are straight up two billion people in South Asia,
many of whom want to move to England, while the
total population of England and Wales is something like sixty million.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
So two billion to sixty million.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
The plan was to give gentler sentencing for any of
those two billion who have arrived or will arrive in
the future. Just seems hard to sustain. Makes me a
little sorry for the ethnic English. Then she makes a
joke that kind of lands. Then in their own native
land they want to give themselves harsher punishment by dint
of their own ethnicity. Sad strange death by politeness. That's
(19:48):
just one of several examples, so I'll give you one more.
In free speech news on the Island, a Times radio
producer was arrested a few months ago, and this week
he told his story. He was arrested by the police.
Now he explains, quote I complained about my daughter's school
on What's app then six police officers turned up. The
(20:09):
video of him was talking about what happened, paired with
the footage of arrest is truly incredible.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I'll see if we can get you a link at
onstring getty dot com.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
High His arrest was on suspicion of quote harassment and
malicious communications for being in a group chat snarking about
the new.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Head of the school.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
The most defensive thing I could find, right snelly that
the Times radio producer's wife referred to a school leader
as a control freak and for that he was arrested
by the British police for quote unquote harassment and malicious communications.
Can you imagine that sort of incursion against free speech
in the United States. If the woke British declare somebody
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beyond criticism, you dare not criticize them or you will
be jailed.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
That is great Britain.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
There are more examples of this, but I will end
with a bit of humor before we get onto a brilliant,
brilliant quote. England's economy is so sad, and they think
the problem is that they need to grow faster deeprivilege
more as though anyone thinks those castles have central air.
In my opinion, there's no saving them. All we can
do is treat their ideas like Ebola builds seawalls around
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their island. They are America's intellectual parent, but like all
elderly relatives, there comes a time to throw them off
a cliff, give ourselves a new name, and never speak
to our siblings again.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
That's funny, it is. So I'm on this salmon rushdie kick.
I'm not exactly sure how I got on it. If
you don't know or remember, he wrote a book in
the eighties, way back in the eighties called The Satanic
Verses that for whatever reason, the Islamic world went nuts
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over it was minor, a minor thing. He didn't feel
like he'd written a controversial book at.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
All, really, and threats to your freedom Islamism.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
But people who hadn't even read the book, particularly in Iran,
went nuts over it, and then the Ayatola went nuts
over it and said that Salomon Rushdi the author, needed
to die. And then his home country of India banned
the book, to his great dismay, and then that kicked
off countries all around the world banning the book, and
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it just grew and grew and grow, and he had
to go into hiding for think a dozen years, ending
with by the way whatever it was two years ago
when he was almost killed on stage in the United
States of America by a Muslim who was still angry
about that book, who, of course, he had never read.
The kid had never read it. He was a twenty
four year old job who lived with his parents, had
never read the book, stabbed out Rushdie's eye, cut his
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throat only because he didn't know what he was doing.
Did he not killed the guy? But I'm reading Rushdie's
memoir called what is it called?
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Something that doesn't written that damn book.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
That's funny.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
I'm sure I'm glad he wrote the book.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Uh that comes goes Jess Joseph Anton is the name
of the book, because that's the name he went by
when he was in hiding. Uh. And he had protection
from basically like the Secret Service of England. He's a
guy who's been living in England and he went to
Oxford and been living in England his whole life, and
he was so disappointed when this very first happens. So
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this fits in with the free speech stuff and also
the Muslim immigration stuff that's been going on in Europe.
So he writes this book. Even if it had been
flat out a book that said Mohammad was a gay pedophile,
I mean, like it didn't. But like, even if it
had been like over the top critical, you still should
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be able to write that book in Western civilization. It's
crazy that you couldn't. But he didn't write anything even
close to that. But people on the left, like artists
on the left, came out and said he shouldn't have
written the book. Margaret Thatcher on the right said that
he shouldn't have written a book and that sort of
thing shouldn't happen because everybody was so scared of Islam
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that you know, we shouldn't criticize them, which is crazy.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Well everybody.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
It reminds me of the beliefs about, you know, domesticating
the Chinese. The belief was that, look, if we just
if we're cool and not at all combative, they won't
be combative to us and try to take over the
world in the name of sharia law, so let's be nice.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
All kinds of people, right left and center of politics
backed down to the Muslim crazies rather than stand up
for free speech and free expression and all that sort
of stuff. Quite a few people were killed. I think
a total of fifteen people died through this whole thing,
including the Japanese translator who was murdered for translating the
book into Japanese there in their country. Just just craziness,
(24:55):
absolute craziness. Well, here is Saman Rushdi talking about how
disappoint that he is, and he I don't know when
he said this, but it's since he got his eye
carved out by the nutjobs in the last couple of years.
Disappointed in the younger generation.
Speaker 9 (25:09):
I feel kind of disappointed in the younger generation because
it used to be that it was kind of old
fogies like me who were conservative about what could be
said and what was wrong to say, and young people
were iconoclastic and you let it all hang out. And
now it's the other way out. It's an older generation
that still holds on to traditional ideas of free expression.
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But the fact that there's a generation growing up which
is willing to suppress speech which it doesn't like is
extremely alarming because I mean that simple definition of free speech,
in order for it to be free, it has to
include speech by people you don't agree with otherwise not
free speech. And there's an increasing feeling that that's the
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kind of wrong way of thinking.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
He's from the atheist hippie generation of the sixties and seventies,
and you know, the young people were the you know,
the people that stood up for that, as he just said,
and now it's the other way around. It's only the
old people that still remember the importance of it, and
the young crowd is no, no, no, free speech is bad.
Too much free speech, that's right.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Need lockstep adherence to what we've been inductrinated into. They
wonn't say that out loud, but that's precisely what they mean.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
So you got the free speech aspect of this conversation
and then the the fundamentalist Muslim aspect of this. So
I because I'm on this kick, I was watching some
old sixty minutes interviews with Salmon Rushti one way back
in the eighties when he was in hiding, and then
one from recently after he was almost assassinated. But they're
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showing these clips from various parts of the country with
young Muslim men almost entirely in the streets, just insanely
enraged still over this book that they've never read, just
because they were told it was bad. It's so pre Enlightenment,
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pre age of reason.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
It's just craziness, right, which is one of the reasons
it's so scary that the postmodernist neomarxist woke crowd, they're
like post Enlightenment, but pre Enlightenment. They think appeal to
objective facts, science to data is wrong. Somehow, it's just
your beliefs. That's the only thing that matters. And it
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aligns very nicely with fundamentalist religious lunatics. And then the
fact that and the funny thing is the religious lunatics
would throw them off a building. Absolutely they were in charge. Absolutely,
here's for Palestine.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It's amazing that in so many places around the world
in Europe is way worse that that's the added than us.
And we went too far at various times since nine
to eleven in terms of bending over backwards to accommodate
a crazy culture that has no room for any other
point of view?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Don't you see the paradox there? I don't see how
more people don't see the paradox there the conundrum where
that's not gonna fit If you've got a group of
people who don't believe in a different point of view.
You can't say we're going to allow your point of
view because we allow all points of view. If they
end up dominating your point of view and all others
go away, you see.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, do you have a duty to support the right
of totalitarians to pitch totalitarianism in the name of a
diversity of viewpoints? It's a great paradox. So one more
thought and you, Jack, you may have read this too.
I can't remember, oh where I read this, but it
made a hell of an impression on me.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
It was a description of a scene of the.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Stoning of a young woman who is accused of adultery
in Afghanistan, And.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
How could that still be going on in the world?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I know, and and the evidence was thin at best,
but that doesn't really matter. No, But the fun part
of the description that really made an impression on me
was the description of how there was really a fairly
small percentage of the crowd that was in favor of
this and were such vehement, devout fundamentalist lunatics that they
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wanted to see this young girl's skull crushed for the
sin of being seen with a man. But everybody had
to outdo each other in signs of fervor and hatred
toward this girl lest they be reported as probably an infidel.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
And soft Unshuria law.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
And so everybody went through this performative viciousness that spread
through the crowd, and everybody checked their conscience and allowed
themselves to get fired up. Then when it was all over,
you know, they congratulating each other and all shuffled home
feeling terrible feelings of guilt and conflict in their hearts.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Performative viciousness. That's exactly what was going on with the
whole Salmon Rushdie Satanic versus thing. And he was pointing
out that at the time there in the late eighties,
there are people going on BBC television and radio talking
about how like Muslim clerics going on TV and seeing
how someone rush Tee should be killed for this, and
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that was airing where anything close to that the other
direction is against the law in Great Britain. That's sort of.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Giving offense to a religion, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
But toward him from Islam, they could threaten his life
and get away.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
With it, right yep.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Wow, way to stand up for Western civilization, grits.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Wow, We'll finish strong next strong, very deep.
Speaker 10 (30:40):
Inside this mine in western Pennsylvania is a little known
government office that handles a critical mission for the federal workforce.
It can take months for the Office of Personnel Management
to process a case, potentially delaying retiree benefits. The facility
has literally miles of files, some twenty six thousand filing
cabinets filled with retirement paperwork, some of them stacked ten
(31:01):
hot dose engineers are working to create a fully digital
experience with federal retirees, the hopeful, happy customers.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
You've heard about the mine. We've talked about it, and
Elon's talked about it a lot. But there's nothing wrong
with holding that up as an example, because if that
can happen, anything can happen. In terms of it, you're
not being efficient.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I'm picturing people in I was going to say like
Silicon Valley, but just like in the insurance company saying
they're going to digitize their records. When's that clip from
like nineteen ninety two or something. No, no, now, now
we still have filing cabinets full of paper, and that's
currently and that's not yesterdayear If somebody retires today, that's
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how they handle it.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
And like I said, if that can happen, anything can
happen in terms of inefficiency.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Oh yeah, but Elon's a Nazi paint as cars the hell.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
Well.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Seriously, there's times I look around and think I want
to become a dog trainer or or run the monkey
house at the zoo or something like that, because human
beings are they're just too strange.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Those are very different jobs you should choose carefully.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (32:16):
True, I have some final thoughts, and some people say
they are the greatest final thoughts they've ever heard. But
if you look at what's happening, I would have to
say Armstrong and Getty have some wonderful final thoughts. They
are right up there with Abraham Lincoln and everybody knows it.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I mean, being a dog trainer is a lot different
than running the monkey house, So I don't know, I
would think it a lot of pooh either way, here's
your host for final thoughts at Joe Getty.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
It flies around more at the monkey House.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Certainly, Hey, let's get a finel thought from everybody on
the CREWI wrap things up for the day.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Michael Aigelo lead us off.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
I'm gonna find the saddest movie this weekend playing in the theaters.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
And then, during a quiet moment in the film, y'all
chicken jockey.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
That's funny. I would laugh so hard if somebody said.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
You'd probably be beaten with many fists. Katie Green are esteemed amusewoman.
As a final thought, Katie.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I was looking at these dire Wolves and the pups
that they made are pretty cute. They are cute, and
I want one.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I'm gonna listen to the Grateful Dead. It's my favorite
dead song, dire Wolf, Don't murder Me. I beg you
please don't murder me.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Jack.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Final thought, I'm wearing a suit today, as I often do.
The average man feels two thirds more confident in a suit,
and I feel like I do.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Yes, excellent. I beg of you don't murder me. Gotta
get the lyrics right.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
My final thought, I'm going to seed to me A
love who wrote a beautiful farewell wish to America she
passed away recently. My living wish and fervent prayer for
you in this nation is that the America I've known
is the America you fight to preserve. And then each citizen,
every leader, will do their part to ensure that the
America we know will be the America our grandchildren and
great grandchildren will inhance.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Armstrong and Getty wrap pick up another grueling for our workday.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
So many people, thanks so a little time. Go to Armstrong,
Getty dot Com. Great hot links, Katie's corner. You got
your swag if you bought one at A and g hood.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Yet people love them. I love them, You'll love them.
Drop snow nail bag and Armstrong in Getty dot com.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
I don't realize Florida had a guy on their team
that's seven foot nine. Championship's gonna have an asterisk next
to it. Seven foot slam dunk sitting down. See you tomorrow,
God bless America.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
A mixed finish on arm.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Strong and Getty.
Speaker 9 (34:31):
You're kind of disappointed.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Heck yes, Audio smofo, this was a huge mistake. Correct, yep? Absolutely?
Are you sure?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Oh, I've been thinking that we really all need a
tremendous hug.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Look, I think that's sort of deeper.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Problem here is get the hell out of here. It's
rather preposterous, isn't it. Screw it, I'm leaving, arms strong
and getty
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