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October 2, 2025 35 mins

Hour 3 of A&G features...

  • Portland is crumblin'
  • Man steals a tow truck & a repo story
  • US providing Ukraine intelligence to strike deep inside Russia & Epstein 
  • Blackmail! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm strong and Key Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
So let's go to Oregon where there's chaos burning the streets. Antifa,
radical left anarchists are causing chaos in that city.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
So Donald Trump is.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Sending in the National Guard now to end he says,
quote the chaos, death and destruction. This is what he
read on truth social We will never allow mobs to
take over our streets, burn our cities, or destroy America.
The National Guard is now in place and has been
dedicated to restoring law and order and ending the chaos,
death and destruction. We are a nation of law and

(00:54):
we will prevail.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
So that's from Fox and Friends this morning. It's about
Trump sending the National Guard into Portland, and for mainstream
media and for a lot of America, it seems to
come out of nowhere. The National Guard in Portland. Why Portland?
And I've never quite understood why. I mean, We're a
big country and it's three thousand miles coast to coast,
and almost entirely the media is centered in New York City,

(01:19):
but is it really that hard to have a grip
on what's happening on the other side of the United States.
Apparently it is because, as Joe and I complained about
a lot back in the day, they completely missed the
knightly Antifa riots in Portland went on for hundreds of
days and nobody was talking about it at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
And what's really interesting to your point slash theory, because
I mean, obviously bias plays a big role in it,
but even conservative media is sleep at the switch on
a lot of this stuff, which is uh hard to explain.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, generally, that's why I bring you this. David Marcus
writing for Fox News Opinion, and he's writing like it's
news to people. Well, it is news to him and
a lot of you around the country. I guess it's
not news to any of us on the West Coast
who have been to Portland or San Francisco, or La
or Seattle over the last several years. Now, I'm going
to read a little bit from his piece. His comments

(02:16):
about San Francisco are inaccurate. Now, I think that's interesting.
Here you got a Fox News reporter talking about what
Portland like now and he's completely unaware of the fact
that San Francisco has turned it around. I have been
reporting that as a guy who goes into San Francisco regularly,
that it's completely different in the nice areas of San
Francisco now than it was a year ago. I mean,

(02:37):
they have really turned it around with the new mayor
and everything like that, But it used to look like
the way he's going to describe Portland here. This city
is in the national spotlight this week because of the
violent antics of Antifa with their attacks on the local
Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center after President Trump's plan
to send in federal law enforcement. Maybe you don't know

(02:58):
that because a lot of mainstream Mountain aren't reporting that
the federal agencies agents and buildings have been attacked regularly,
like for like one hundred straight days in Portland, right,
But there are.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Plenty of just nice civilian people who are secretaries and
janitors and stuff in those buildings and they're terrified.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Here's the writing of David Marcus of Fox, who went
to Portland this week on Monday morning. Downtown Portland is
a ghost town by the standards of most of major
American cities. There are basically only two types of people
walking around those who have a lot of money and
those who have none. This is very much a West
Coast phenomenon, similar in many ways to the mess that
San Francisco is in my aside being that, hey, David,

(03:40):
go to San Francisco. It ain't like that anymore. I
don't know why it matters so much if you're a
big city on the East coast, but we don't consider
it part of America if you're on the West coast.
But anyway, I mean, especially.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Because from a conservative point of view, San Francisco has
turned itself around by embracing the very policies we've been
howling for.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, it's a good Fox story. It's a good story
for anybody. Actually, even liberals got fed up enough that
they're willing to try something different, and hey, it worked anyway.
Back to Portland. In Portland, it is normal to turn
a corner off a block of high end shopping and
walk into a row of homeless tents, the smell of
human waste and burning drugs commingled. Yes, in case you've

(04:21):
never experienced this, you could be next to a well,
uh not that long ago. In San Francisco, you could
walk out of sacks fifth avenue which was locked by
the way with an armed guard out front of it.
And walk just a few feet and you got homeless
tents and you're scared to be there, and it's just amazing.
You can't imagine it. In most places. I'll skip past

(04:41):
this drug addict bumming a cigarette from him. There are
homeless people sprinkled around the center and city. Let me
start again and slow down. There are homeless people sprinkled
around center city Philadelphia, for example, But you have to
go looking for the pure human misery that is Ken'sington Philadelphia.
In Portland, it is omnipresent. Yeah, And that's the way

(05:05):
it is in Seattle and LA and was in San
Francisco until very recently.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
And I'll never win this fight, but call them transient
drug addicts. That's what they are.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Absolutely. The people of Portland and the media want to
put out pictures of Portland of lovely brunches or a
pretty storefront on social media say look, it's fine here,
but it's not. And they talked about statements by various
politicians in the Portland area. Extremely privileged and progressive members

(05:38):
of Portland. The rich put out these social media posts
and they live in a bubbled area in which this
just isn't as true, that is not exactly accurate. As
I pointed out for a long time, just did that
in San Francisco. It was the nicest hotels and the
nicest stories, You had this sort of stuff. So any

(05:59):
effort to claim that the city wasn't take over by
you know, street drug addicts, you're just it's a combination
of lying and denial. And I don't even know what
it would be from a psychological standpoint.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Right well, And it's unbelievable levels of blindness too, because
the New York Post has a story about the Antifa
violence and they point out that this one gal, who
is a disabled black woman living in a low income
subsidized apartment near the ice facility, says she hasn't slept
in days because there's so much yelling and violence and
bull horns and the rest of it. She said, it's miserable.

(06:37):
And she's the sort of person that the Left claims
to care about.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Back to this article, it's not just the homeless that
Portlanders have grown accustomed to. At the local CBS, which
looked like something out of the Soviet Union, ninety percent
of the stock was behind lock and key. Not just
razors and deodorant, but bags of chips too. I asked
the arms security guard if he stops a lot of theft.
He said, look around, there's nothing anyone can steal, and

(07:01):
mostly here for the crazies or violent people that might
come in and if you're just tuning in.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
We reported earlier that Walmart has closed its last two
stores in Portland, following Target out the door. By the way,
Walmart has a dozen stores right outside Portland in the suburbs,
but it's just too dangerous and thefty top right within
the city.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well done, And hey Walmart, Hey, convenience stores, restaurants, any store, Walgreens,
if you're closing down because there's too many drug addicts
around to do business, please say it out loud. Just
say it out loud. We have to. There's too much
theft and it's too dangerous and we can't get anybody
to work here. That's why we're closing down. I don't

(07:43):
know why they're scared to say that. I guess they
feel like they'll be attacked by the left for blaming
the victim or something. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
I wonder it's got to be something like that because
Walmart put out a statement there was like Kamala Harris
wrote it, I mean, it was just a rambling mess.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Starbucks always does. But you know there are a lefty
organization top to bottom, but they never want to say
out loud why they're closing their stores. The crystal clear
message that this sends to the citizenry of Portland is
that they live surrounded by thieves who cannot be trusted,
so they should go to the protection of fancy restaurants
or their high rise apartments. Let the streets be the streets,
and just hide where you live. And then he said,

(08:20):
this is where Antifa comes back into the story. Why
does Atifa feel empowered to simply take over square blocks
of Portland as it has and harass whomever they want to.
In New York City or Philadelphia, the police would eventually
shut it down. Where I live in West Virginia wouldn't
last ten minutes, he writes. In Portland, it happens everywhere,
all the time. The obvious answer is that the city

(08:41):
doesn't stop them, just as the city does nothing to
clean up the vagrancy and open drug use. It is
a total surrender, as day by day people die in
the streets beneath the beautiful pine trees overlooking what should
be a wonderful city. The wealthy here just don't seem
to care much if people have needles sticking out of
their arms or be teep as assaulting journalists. That's the

(09:03):
part I don't get. And as we learned with San Francisco,
there is a limit apparently. But why for all those
years do people who you obviously are well to do
you live in one of the most expensive places in
the world, but you pretend that this isn't happening around
you because I guess you feel like you'd well again

(09:25):
be blaming the victim of that would make you right
wing or a conservative or something that if you said
it out loud, what is right in front of your
face every single day.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I just think it goes back to the Bart and
Swain piece about how a lot of the justification for
left wing violence is right out of the mainstream left,
whereas the excuses for right wing political violence are like
wack of doodles who believe something no conservative does, and
the idea that well and these people are in such

(09:54):
media bubbles. As we've discussed many times, conservatives are surrounded
by progressives telling them their point of view. I can
tell you what their arguments are quite accurately and in detail.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
They have no idea what our arguments are. So you
got the.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Self congratulatory ultra lefty people in Portland who have never
heard an alternative opinion, and they think Trump's an actual
fascist and Antifa is actually fighting against fascists, and not
that they're violent, alienated Marxist jackasses.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
They just don't know. I was just thinking, do I do?
It seems like it's a human nature thing to a
certain extent, So like, are there realities that I ignore
because it would bump up against my political views? But
if you're walking out of your apartment in your expen
way too expensive apartment in Portland or San Francisco or

(10:46):
Seattle or La or wherever you are, and there's human
poop on the sidewalk, something that didn't used to be
a thing at all anywhere in the country. I mean,
it was just like it was unheard of, and now
it's regular, and you know they're there's what they used
to call San Francisco snow on the street from all
the windows shattered in cars overnight because stealing is rampant

(11:08):
and all your favorite stores have closed, and there's an
armed guard in front of the store you want to
go into, with a gun that unlocks the door and
lets you in. How do you just ignore that reality
as opposed to, you know, complain about it or want
to do something about it because it just doesn't fit
your worldview? Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
People are more likely to believe something completely ridiculous than
admit that, you know, what, my precepts were wrong.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
You know, I've been wrong all along about this stuff
That reminds me. I was in a store in Los
Angeles with a woman and there is a store where
they had it's a common thing. You put all the
most stealable stuff in a center section and then you
have one way you can walk into it. It's like
a little corridor, and then you have a guard there

(11:58):
so that anything that that's an easier way to locking
it up, you just put it all in one section. Anyway,
this person suggested to me, look at it's the stuff
that they need the most, like stuff to stay clean
and brush their teeth and everything like that that they're
keeping away from these people, Like that's your reaction to this.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
And they believe that these camps full of transient drug
addicts are people who are just priced out.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Of the rental market, right, and hardworking people who need
toothpaste and mean right winger capitalist type people are specifically
hiding and putting a guard in front of deodorant and
toothpaste because you want these people to be stinky and
have bad.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Teeth, right, And if we can institute rent control, then
rents will drop your nuts. Yeah, it's a string of
inane opinions, but they're pretty mainstream.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Glad Fox sent a report to Portland to report on
something that has been true for a very very long time.
Send another reporter to San Francisco so you can see
that things turned around a lot with different policies. Any
comment on this text line four one five to nine
five kftc Armstrong truck from a viral video because Grand

(13:30):
Room was going happened.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
A fifty six year old New York man was arrested
on grand larceny charges. They were trying to repoe his truck,
which he wasn't making payments on, and he leapt into
well first, he violently shoved down the tow truck driver
and then jumped into the tow truck and stole it

(13:54):
with his truck, his pickup truck not quite all the
way attached, leaving a wake of destruction and auto parts
in the street.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Evidently, that's a good plan. That's a good you're thinking
long term. That's a really good plan. I mean, because
it's likely to work out. Everything's gonna work out the
way you want. You're gonna drive off on the tow truck, then,
like keep your car and not get arrested for stealing.
Everything's gonna work out fine. Again, it's just playing a
good plan, and.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
The bank will see the injustice of demanding that you
make payments. So their tone is twenty twenty Chevy Silverado.
The rear wheels were being attached to the tow truck's arm,
and he runs out, get the f out of here,
put the truck down. I'm warning you, mfor and he
shoves the driver down, threatening to punch him. FIM, nobody's

(14:44):
taking this truck from me, he says, as he pulls
away with the tow truck.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
I knew somebody who did repost for cars, and he
said it's incredibly dangerous. I had to fight all the time.
That's nuts. You're gonna fight the person. Again, good long
term thinking. How you ended up in a financial situation
where you can't make your car payment With that kind
of brilliant long term thinking, I'll fight the guy and then,
like Joe said, and the bank will decide, you know what,
we are treating him unfairly expecting him to make these payments.

(15:13):
He's really committed downing that truck.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Why he beat a man down and smashed up fifteen
other vehicles.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
We should let him keep his truck.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, so anyway, court records show that mister Leosa had
said his name fifty six year old Russell Leosa.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
This guy's fifty six and he's pulling this stuff. Yeah,
you're a little old for that kind of decision. Let's
see where was it?

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Ah. Court records show that Leos has been involved in
a variety of legal actions bankruptcy, for closure, unpaid bills,
motor vehicle torts, and he also has a couple of
prior arrests.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
According to New York City Police. He was sued in.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Twenty twenty for posting false and privileged in defamatory statements
on Facebook accusing a neighborhood man of being a pedophile
and predator. Because the guy was having an affair with
Leos's estranged wife.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Hmm okay, yeah, the thun plickens.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah yeah, But oddly enough, he blamed the planiff for
the breakup of his marriage and oddly claimed that as
a former lawman, the other man quote understood that sexual
intercourse with another man's wife is a crime and punishable
with imprisonment.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Okay, I ever tell the story about the disc jockey
I worked with who got his car repossessed. We were
all watching out the window while it happened. That was
so inert whatever happened to him. His name was the Orphan.
Nobody ever knew what his real name was. And then
as his past became sketchier and people realized it wasn't
just he had a DJ name, he had an alias.

(16:42):
He was trying to hide his name. But we were
all he got his car repossessed. We're all standing in
the radio station looking out the window, and the thing
shows up bothed away. His girlfriend he showed up with
when he came to town disappeared with another dude. She
was wearing a fur coat. I don't know what was
going on with the Orphan. A very complicated story.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Well, and You've said this a million times. This guy
is who he is because he's made so many bad decisions.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
He's not unfortunate. He's an idiot. Yeah. Man, there's some
pretty big news around Epstein and Ukraine, so stay tuned.
Armstrong and Geeddy.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
Maxwell House Coffee is changing its name for the first
time in more than one hundred and thirty years, the
coffee giant temporarily rebranding as Maxwell Apartment. The company says
it's making the switch to reflect the number of Americans
now renting instead of buying homes, and they say to
remind consumers that the coffee is affordable.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
That sounds like he got pranked. That can't be real, right,
I think they were trying to remind Americans that the
coffee exist. When was the last time you heard of
Maxwell House reference? I find that artably. I also don't
believe the landlines are coming backstory. Maybe we should talk
about that later. I don't believe it's actually happening. But

(17:52):
two things that are happening that are super interesting. First,
this is from the Wall Street Journal. An exclusive from
the Wall Street Journal. The United States is going to
provide Ukraine with intelligence for long rain missile strikes on
Russia's energy infrastructure. This is the first time that Biden
or Trump has said, yeah, We're going to help you

(18:13):
shoot deep into Russia and try to take out their
energy infrastructure. This is a pretty big deal. That's according
to American officials and the Trump administration, who is weighing
right now sending Kiev even more powerful weapons that could
put in range more targets within Russia. Trump recently signed
off and allowing intelligence agencies and the Pentagon to aid

(18:33):
Kiev with the strikes. US officials are asking the NATO
allies to provide similar support. The expanded intelligence sharing with
Kiev is the latest sign that Trump is deepening support
for Ukraine as the peace talks have clearly stalled. It's
the first time that Trump will aid Ukrainian strikes with
the long range missiles against energy targets deep inside Russia.

(18:54):
This is I'm not worried about World War three starting
out of this or anything like that, but I mean,
this is getting closer to a full on NATO US
versus Russia sort of situation. Definitely. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
I came across super interesting piece talking about how NATO
abandoned what they called active defense and you know, maybe
someday we can get into it, but in favor of
a much more robust counter attack strategy. Specifically, and here's
why I bring it up. You've got to be able
to attack your enemy's supply lines. You can't just fight

(19:29):
them at the front and wait for help to come
and good things to happen. You have to attack their
supply lines and their supply depots and their energy infrastructure.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
That's how you weaken the front line.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
And so Ukraine's been wanting to do that for a
very long time, but they've been held back.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
So now they're going.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
To be able to do what is obvious in terms
of successful warfare.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
So Russia had the biggest call up draft conscripting soldiers
that they've had since twenty sixteen, and NATO and the
United State Ukraine are going to go after their energy infrastructure.
This work, you get a lot more hot, really fast, well.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
And hot in a lot of different ways. Because the
Russian economy is really struggling. They have serious problems right now.
Their main source of income is oil exports, and they've
banned any more oil experts exports through the rest of
the year because they need it domestically. And then the callup.
Do you remember how many guys got called up as
a huge number of humans? I can't remember, but that's

(20:30):
not gonna sit well. I mean, how many call ups
have they had and emptying out the prisons and giving
giant bonuses and like dragon North Koreans into the fray
and now they've gone back to the well again.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Wow, are losing seven thousand guys a week killed and wounded?
I mean, that's just a stunning number. Anyway, that's that situation.
This is more fun or weird. This is from the
New York Post, but it's actually happened New York Posts.
Miranda Divine, who we've had on the air before, good reporter.

(21:05):
Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick was on her podcast yesterday and,
in a notable break with the Department of Justice, claimed
that pedophile Jeffrey Epstein was the greatest blackmailer ever. He
knew him. Howard Lutnick, current Commerce Secretary, knew Epstein and
said Epstein was the greatest black mailer ever and probably

(21:28):
traded the Fed's video of rich and well connected associates
getting massages from young women in exchange for his two
thousand and eight plea deal down there in Florida where
he got off that plea deal that nobody's ever been
able to understand, where he was dead to rights, guilty
of all kinds of different things, and he got a
really sweetheart deal and was back out in the public,

(21:49):
continuing to do his thing. So a current secretary in
Trump's cabinet thinks that Epstein had videos that he used
to blackmail people to get out of that. I go
on what made the shocking allegations? Yesterday on a pod
Force one, a podcast that comes out today. The cabinet
secretary said that Epstein himself showed him the notorious massage

(22:14):
room while giving Leutnik and his wife a tour of
the famous townhouse after the couple had moved in next
door back in two thousand and five. So let nex
getting a tour of Epstein's super rich, famous house. I
say to him, massage table in the middle of your house? Often?
Do you have a massage Which is a damn good question.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
I mean, I mean, how important are massage is to
you that you put the massage table right in the
middle of your home?

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Was it a little room though? I don't I don't know,
I say to a massage table in the middle of
your house. Often do you have a massage? And Epstein
says every day. And then he gets like weirdly close
to me and says, and the right kind of massage.
Lutnick said, he and his wife quickly excused themselves and
left Epstein's home, and in the six to eight steps

(23:07):
it takes me to get from his house to my house,
my wife and I decided that we'll never be in
a room with that disgusting person ever. Again. Wow, Trump
has got to be slapping his head. When asked by
Divine whether Epstein's rich and powerful associates, including the likes
of Prince Andrew and Bill Gates, could hang around him
and not see what you saw, or did they see
it and ignore it, Lutnik responded, they participated. He said

(23:30):
this yesterday on a podcast. Wow. Current secretary. Wow, they
get a massage, and that's what his mo O was,
get a massage, get a massage. And what happened in
that massage room, I assume was on video. The Commerce
Secretary said, this guy was the greatest blackmailer ever, blackmailed people,
that's how he made his money. So the hell this
is a new chapter I'd say, so the how the

(23:53):
whole how did he get so rich? How did he
get the sweetheart deal? When he got caught in Florida?
The current Commerce secretary says, because he had all these
powerful people. He videoed him getting happy ending massages. Wow,
and blackmailed him for cash and that's how he got
out of the legal trouble. Wow. That's a heck of
a thing to say. Yeah, Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
I'd always just assumed that it was a super rich,
popular guy getting the wink and nod in a place
in America where super rich, powerful guys can do anything
they want.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Uh, But heck, I don't know. Maybe he's right.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
All I know is Cash Patel, Dan Bongino, and the
President and the vice president.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Are all slap in their foreheads. Oh my god, Howard,
oh my. This story was just settled down and the
story was over. Nobody was talking about Emstein again. That's
a heck of a thing for him to say out
loud as a current part of the Trump administration. Yeah,
it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
And Miranda Devine is she speaks with a tongue dipped
in sarcasm, but she's very accurate and serious.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Well, let me throw you this question. Do you think
I'll use a particular Do you think Bill Gates got
happy ending massages at massages at Epstein's place, and and
then then Epstein's strong armed him and he actually like
gave him money.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
I have no idea. Obviously, it's not inconceivable. Wow, if
it was a blackmail ring, a blackmail racket, if that's
what he if that was his method, I could see
that working at least for a while.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Well, he was ungodly wealthy, and nobody can quite figure
out how he got that wealthy. M right.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Although you know, maybe it's just me, and maybe this
is big talk, but I've always thought if anybody tried
to blackmail me, I would go to whatever party would
be offended, my wife or my employer or whatever, and say, hey,
here's what's happening. I'm going to the cops. Yes, I
did get a happy ending in a massage. I'm not

(26:08):
proud of it, and I'm sure you're angry with me,
but I'm not gonna let a blackmail or blackmail me.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
So I'm going to the cops the David Letterman routine.
That's what he did.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Maybe it's because I've done so many stupid things in
my life, I'm fairly comfortable admitting to it.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Well, I think the thing that you're just recognizing that
David Letterman recognized. If you don't know that story, he
was having an affair and then the person threatened to
come forward with it, wanted money, was it whatever they
wanted and.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
He just a weird drinkle involving a screenplay. But it
doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
He just went on the air that night and said, look,
I was having an affair and they're trying to extort me,
and so I'm just letting you know right now. And
he's talked about it a lot since. Obviously he made
his marriage very very difficult. They're still together, they had
a kid. I'm glad they survived it. But he just thought, well,
this will never end if I go down that road,
which usually is the case. That's one of the reasons
I would think that, know, these rich, powerful people weren't

(27:00):
doing that, But you know, maybe Epstein just kept them
on a string, strung them along, kept money coming in
on a regular basis.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, that's the source of my skepticism. At no point
did somebody think I'm well known for getting erotic massages
or you know, or escorts or whatever, or dating models.
Nobody gives a crap if I got a handy, I'm
calling them on this.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I know never happened. I know somebody personally who paid
an extorter. Wow. Wow, I probably shouldn't even tell the story,
but something had happened. They were in the wrong, and
this person said, I won't go to the cops if
if you give me I forget how much. It was
like ten thousand dollars, and they did, and my hold on,

(27:48):
I'm gonna teach uh oh, I got the COVID nine A. Anyway,
they gave him the ten thousand dollars, and my advice
to them was, look, they're just gonna call you up
in a week and say I need two thousand more
or I'm going to the cops. It'll never end. But
I was wrong in this case. They never came back
to him, and that was jeez, twenty years ago. Hmm,

(28:12):
But you happy ending. Usually that's what happens, though, isn't
it often? Often?

Speaker 1 (28:17):
I don't know that much about extortion, but yeah, that's
one of the risks of going along with it.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
There's nothing stopping them from touching you up again on
which the payment plan like a subscription. You forget you
have it. I'll bet Epstein had a bunch of powerful
people and he had it was probably charities. You know,
I've got these nonprofits. I'd like you to donate this
much per month forever to my nonprofit. That sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah, it's not impossible. Seems like a bit of a stretch.
They got the massage room right in the middle of
the house. See that's prejudicial number one. You never get massages,
so it seems odd to you. If I had room
to have like a physical therapy room in my house
that included massage and stuff, and I didn't have to

(29:05):
go somewhere, I would do that in a minute.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Would you have cameras there so you could record your friends?

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Of course I would No, of course not. Would you
sidle up to someone in the middle of my house?
What if it was at the edge of my house.
You keep using that phrase like it's an indictment. Don't
be a bsir?

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Would me? I didn't. It wasn't me taking a tour
of Epstein's house. Now you've repeated it more than once.
Lutnig's words, I mean the middle of his house. The
Geographic Center. It was amazing. It was nowhere near the
outer wall. Would you sidle up next to somebody you
don't know who just moved in next door to you,
and would you say, yeah, the right kind of massages.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Well, I wouldn't sidle up to anybody and say that
for obvious reasons.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
But yeah, that's weird damn behavior. You just move into
a neighborhood. I have a massage table right in the
middle of your house. I've never seen that before. Yeah,
the right kind of massages? What hell? Okay, welcome to
the neighborhood. Oh boy, no wonder, he said to his wife.
We're not going back over there. Have you ever been blackmailed?

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Mail Bag at armstrong in getty dot com, drop us note,
we'll keep everything anonymous obviously, mail bag at armstrong in
geddy dot com.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
That's a good one. That's a good one all. But
we have people that have been blackmailed. How did it
turn out? Did they come back for more?

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Well, how about the non disclosure agreement with a big
fat payment. That's like the other side of the blackmail coin.
That's the interesting part of those laws.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
To me.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
If I go to you like preemptively and say, look,
I saw you saw me with the underage messus and
all I tell you what, here's fifty K I need
you to sign this form.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
That's like reverse blackmail, but that's completely illegal. Yeah, you're right,
it is blackmail. Interesting. I look forward to seeing those
emails a lot more on the way. Stay here, we
throw out the question have you ever blackmail been blackmailed?
And we'll see if we get any emails on that.
But somebody texted better question, and have you ever blackmailed someone? Well,

(31:05):
Joe and I have not known, but admit a crime
to us and send us your email. We'll see if
we get any emails on it.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
All right, So you know how sometimes there are do
you know your news quizzes?

Speaker 2 (31:18):
News outlets? All do.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Here's your an G knowledge quiz. What am I always
saying is the biggest story in the world that nobody
talks about right now? These days radical Islam versus Western civilization.
People act like nine to eleven was a bit of
a blip, but now it's gone, ignoring the tens of
thousands of Christians being killed in Africa, for instance. So

(31:42):
German authorities arrested three men on Wednesday. They believe we're
affiliated with Hamas and suspected of planning attacks targeting Israelian
Jewish institutions. According to German prosecutors, the suspects, two German
nationals and one Lebanese born individual, were arrested in Berlin.
They had all sorts of weapons and explosives. Separately, Munich's

(32:04):
Octoberfest was temporarily closed for several hours on Wednesday after
an unrelated bomb threat linked to a domestic dispute. They
thought at first, and then this terrible story out of
Britain that oh, I thought she sent that to the
whole group, Hanson. There was an attack in Britain on

(32:28):
Jewish folks timed to the big Jewish holiday that killed
a couple and wounded several more by Islamists.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Today in the last twenty four hours. Yeah, just terrible,
but you know, speaks to what we were talking about yesterday.
If you didn't hear it, get the podcast. I guess
the woman who was a committed suicide bomber and disappointed
that she was not successful after she was jail and

(33:01):
treated for medical reasons by the Israelis and everything like that,
she didn't change her mind because she was a committed
Jews must die. I'm going to go to Paradise if
I kill them and die in the cause sort of person.
And I guess that's what these jihadists are. They believe,
they actually believe it. They're going to go to paradise,
and Jews are evil, so it's a good expenditure of

(33:23):
your life to take out Jews. Yeah, and gosh, there
was a which is nuts. It's absolutely completely freaking nuts.
There is a big event going on.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Is it now or just happen, I'm not sure, but
it's this big American Arab Discrimination Committee is the organization
holds Arab Khan in a dearborn, Michigan a town. It's
a majority Muslim town, dubbed America's Jihad capital by some

(33:55):
because so many of its city and religious leaders have
sided with Hamas against the US and IS. And three
rising stars in democratic politics, Michigan Senate candidate and former
CNN contributor Abdul l sa ed, A representative ro Kana, California,
and Michigan Lieutenant Governor Garland Gilchrist are all listed as speakers.

(34:17):
Even though this organization that puts it on and civilly,
the other speakers are absolutely undisguised supporters of Hamas and
radical Islam.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Now, I wonder if it's just Dearborn proper. The Dearborn
metro area is four million people. Well that includes Detroit,
but Dearborn itself just the suburb is Muslim majority. Yeah,
that's what the Free Beacon says, and they're generally pretty accurate.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
But these Democrats know they need that vote or want
to win that vote, and so they are saying the
things those people want to hear.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
And it brings us back to Hallibec's great book Submission.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Submission, Yeah, about the way radical Islam takes over Western
democracies bit by bits, slowly through elections and.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Pressure on politicians and submissiveness by people who watch it
happen right, not realizing how bad it's going to be.
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