August 15, 2025 • 12 mins
Within this episode of the Armstrong & Getty Select Cuts Podcast...
Joe Getty details the odd and troubling relationship between US progressives & hard core Islamist monsters who support terrorism and oppression.
Thanks to the Eli Lake for his column, The Ties That Bind Islamists and Progressives.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Newly released drone video shows Palestinian militants pretending to be
workers from the world's Central Kitchen. They travel in two cars,
one marked with the flag of the Humanitarian Organization before
they're hit by IDF airstrikes.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
WCK in real time were able to verify that vehicle
was not connected to the organization in any way, which
means those tears were using that as a disguise for
their terror activity inside Gaza.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Israeli airstrikes targeted multiple areas of the enclave over the
past twenty four hours, killing dozens of Palestinian civilians.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Okay, so in spite of that, it's absolutely documented, undeniable
that Hamas guys were masquerading as food relief guys. NBR
considers it completely impossible that they would impersonate journalists, or
at least that's what they're saying in this sence, and
those views are supported practically to a person by the
American left, a lot of the left in a lot
(00:55):
of the Western world. What the hell is going on?
To quote Eli Lake, who's a brilliant writer in the West,
the politics of the Gaza War feature a strange marriage
between political Islam and the twenty first century Western left,
for instance, the Democratic Socialists of America. This is Mumdani's
crew simultaneously support making New York a national hub for
(01:18):
transgender medicine and want to globalize the Intifada.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yeah, that is a good point.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It supp it supports the bleeding edge of social progressive
values while throwing its full support behind the fanatic fascists
who filmed their mass murder of Jews and probably posted
the videos to Telegram and Lake. In an absolutely fabulous
piece that will post I think you might get paywalled,
but maybe not. Talks about how the what's called the
(01:47):
red Green alliance among people who think about this sort
of thing, how it came up, and it really came up,
And yes.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
He was red in who's green here?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Reds is and communists in green, the color of Hama
and radical Islam and various thank you for asking for
the clarification to hit for the room. Anyway, A lot
of this arose during Iran's Islamic Revolution nineteen seventy eight
and seventy nine. And he goes into and it's so
interesting the details of how Ayatola Komaney, who is in
(02:19):
exile in France, started giving all sorts of really carefully
controlled interviews to American and European media outlets, and how
they're on this pr campaign to convince the West that
he's a reasonable fellow. In fact, he's really for democracy,
(02:41):
and Lake is writing. Anybody who spent ten minutes looking
into Komane knew that he was a hardcore is Lomist monster.
You didn't even have to try to figure it out.
But the left of American journalism, in Western journalism, and
some folks like in the Carter administration became completely convinced
(03:06):
and touted in the face of all of this that no,
he was actually a really good guy. Richard Falk, a
Princeton professor of international law who met with Comane during
his exile outside of Paris. Andrew Young, Jimmy Carter's ambassador
to the United Nations, told reporters that the Iotola will
eventually be regarded as a saint like this fulk the
(03:30):
Princeton professor, And because people were saying there were some
on the right who said, look, this guy's a reactionary
and a terrorist. And he said, to suppose that Iotola
Comane is disassembling seems almost beyond belief. His political style
is to express his real views defiantly and without apology,
(03:51):
regardless of consequences. Blah blah blah. Thus the depiction of
him as a fanatical reactionary and the bearer of crude
prejudices seemed certainly and happily false. I know. Is also
encouraging is that as entourage of close advisors is uniformly
and composed of moderate progressive individuals.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I know you and Eli Lake are about to explain
to me why. But is it just as simple as
the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and my
enemy is me the United States. So somebody who doesn't
like us is good to.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I like, right there. There's more to it than that,
but yeah, the very short version of it is essentially,
wait a minute, you want to overthrow Western civilization. I
want to overthrow Western civilization. You want to impose Islamism,
but I want to impose Marxism. Well, I tell you what,
how about we work together and then when the civilization's overthrown,
(04:43):
will peacefully cooperate and divide the spoils. Then, of course,
like in every revolution, they kill each other as fast
as they can. But there's one more factor.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
You got jihad in my queer studies. You got queer
studies in my jihad. Two great tastes. It tastes great together.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Oh that's beautiful anyway. So this brings us to the
connection between something I have been harping about for a
very long time, as has James Lindsay and other folks.
If there is one Western progressive who illuminates the emergence
of the Red Green alliance, it is the French philosopher
(05:18):
Michelle Foucaut. Well I've mentioned several times. In nineteen seventy eight,
fouc was absolutely the peak of his influence. He was
the postmodernist who is revolutionizing universities with his withering critique
of the Western Enlightenment and values that underpin modern liberalism.
Fucaut is literally anti Enlightenment, and he is the father
(05:42):
of all critical theory. Okay, And I think people have
a tendency to think, all right, Getty and Lindsay are
paranoid or whatever, or their conspiracy theorist. I had a
friend in high school who was Indian. His parents had
emigrated from India and they were Hindus, and in visiting
(06:07):
his house and hanging out with his family, so it
became clear to me that there were figures in Hinduism
that were known and revered to billions of people around
the world who I'd never heard of. I would suggest
to you my friends, and you are my friends. Fuko
(06:28):
is that for the Neomarxists, for those who would overthrow
Western civilization. He is a godhead to them. And you
don't know his name, but trust me what I tell you.
It's incredibly important that you understand. So, this guy was
incredibly influential in the universities in the seventies, and in
nineteen seventy eight he was commissioned by two Italian newspapers
(06:50):
to report on the Iranian Revolution. And like one of
those you know Left East you know Time magazine guys
who were visiting the Soviet Union and one of their
Potempkin villages back in the forties, say or fifties, he
couldn't stop gut gushing about how great the Itola was,
and he was going to get rid of the oppression
(07:11):
of Western politics and Zabadabadu. So, and this gets a
little complicated, but I'll get to the simple part. Fuco
was a major intellectual influence on the late Columbia University
of Professor Edward Sayd's Orientalism Now a postcolonial Ism study Bible,
which critiqued how Western imperial writers made Arabs, Muslims and
(07:34):
Easterners objects in their narratives and impose their own agenda
on their histories. Here is the great postmodernist celebrating Ayatola
Komany overthrowing the Western government, even though Komane would would
execute Fuco and his company the first chance they got.
But that was the birthplace of it. And until you
(07:56):
understand that postmodernism thing, you don't get critical theory. You
don't understand what DEI is and what it's trying to accomplish.
You don't understand queer theory, radical gender theory, all the
confused adolescent girls getting their healthy breasts removed because they're
momentarily confused by you know, adolescents and puberty and the
rest of it. This is all straight back to Fuco
(08:19):
and critical theory.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Clearly, this theory is true in that it is happening.
I still don't get how you're not argued out of
that position very quickly. If somebody says to you, you
realize if you're in Iran, they would they would murder
you immediately. Well, yeah, so I guess I'd better pick
(08:42):
a different group to work with.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I mean, right, a different philosophy. Here's the thing, and
these people are smart. I mean they're insane, but they're smart.
They convince you completely of their premise that Western society
what was that phrase, uh, have made all other people
objects in their narratives and impose their own agenda on
(09:06):
their histories. The key philosophy of critical theory is that
there is no objective truth there.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Don't even seek it, it doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
All there is is narratives, and narratives come from your culture,
and since Western culture is dominant, it has created a
narrative that says the Iyatola Komene is a monster, but
that's just because they're threatened by him, so they're racists,
they're othering him. And once you have that down to
(09:38):
your bones, then you can't be argued off of it
on the basis of me saying they torture and then
kill anybody who's gay or transgender because I'm a Westerner
trying to lie to them using my narrative.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
So they don't believe that jihadis would murder gay people,
or they think jihadis only murdered gay people because of
the position we've put them in.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Uh yeah, indirectly, Yeah, the first part, one hundred percent.
And or we have so dominated them and crushed their
spirits and oppressed them that they're acting out in ways
that they won't anymore when the enlightenment comes, when the
Marxist revolution comes. I mean, like excusing the crimes of
October seventh. You saw that directly. Look, they're under oppression.
(10:30):
What do you expect them to do?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, and I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Believe they raped and killed babies. No, they just fought
back against the oppressor self solution.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
That's a scary thing to be up against. There's way
too many people to believe it.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Oh, and they're in our schools, folks, our elementary schools,
our high schools, and our colleges and our grad schools.
That is one of the dominant philosophies, if not the
dominant philosophy in our educational complex. Which is why I'm
always saying it's the most important problem that faces America.
In China, it's the center street jihadism than man well,
(11:05):
post Marxism, but cultural Marxism, postmodernism, neo Marxism, whatever you
want to call it.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
It's interesting because back then, when Mitt Romney is running
for president and after nine to eleven, jihadism did seem
like the biggest problem in the world. And it's a problem,
no doubt. But I'm more worried about Neo Marxism in
the foothold it's got in the United States and Western
culture than I am about ji Hotism.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
By a lot, right, right, Yeah, my final word, and folks,
I apologize in advance. I'm gonna use a bad letter
here if you think I don't know that seems kind
of paranoid. These efing people wrote efing books, Their efing
names are on the efing spines, and they fing describe
(11:51):
precisely what they're efing going to do, and they're doing
it precisely as they effing do described. End of screen.
Troubling societies are brought down by their own decadence.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
If you're interested in this stuff, man, go to YouTube
and just type in James Lindsay. He's got some unbelievable
YouTube videos about this that are so damn interesting, And
a great
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Place to start is for the one hundredth time, his
book with Helen Pluckrose Cynical Theories it's great,
Newly released drone video shows Palestinian militants pretending to be
workers from the world's Central Kitchen. They travel in two cars,
one marked with the flag of the Humanitarian Organization before
they're hit by IDF airstrikes.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
WCK in real time were able to verify that vehicle
was not connected to the organization in any way, which
means those tears were using that as a disguise for
their terror activity inside Gaza.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Israeli airstrikes targeted multiple areas of the enclave over the
past twenty four hours, killing dozens of Palestinian civilians.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Okay, so in spite of that, it's absolutely documented, undeniable
that Hamas guys were masquerading as food relief guys. NBR
considers it completely impossible that they would impersonate journalists, or
at least that's what they're saying in this sence, and
those views are supported practically to a person by the
American left, a lot of the left in a lot
(00:55):
of the Western world. What the hell is going on?
To quote Eli Lake, who's a brilliant writer in the West,
the politics of the Gaza War feature a strange marriage
between political Islam and the twenty first century Western left,
for instance, the Democratic Socialists of America. This is Mumdani's
crew simultaneously support making New York a national hub for
(01:18):
transgender medicine and want to globalize the Intifada.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yeah, that is a good point.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It supp it supports the bleeding edge of social progressive
values while throwing its full support behind the fanatic fascists
who filmed their mass murder of Jews and probably posted
the videos to Telegram and Lake. In an absolutely fabulous
piece that will post I think you might get paywalled,
but maybe not. Talks about how the what's called the
(01:47):
red Green alliance among people who think about this sort
of thing, how it came up, and it really came up,
And yes.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
He was red in who's green here?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Reds is and communists in green, the color of Hama
and radical Islam and various thank you for asking for
the clarification to hit for the room. Anyway, A lot
of this arose during Iran's Islamic Revolution nineteen seventy eight
and seventy nine. And he goes into and it's so
interesting the details of how Ayatola Komaney, who is in
(02:19):
exile in France, started giving all sorts of really carefully
controlled interviews to American and European media outlets, and how
they're on this pr campaign to convince the West that
he's a reasonable fellow. In fact, he's really for democracy,
(02:41):
and Lake is writing. Anybody who spent ten minutes looking
into Komane knew that he was a hardcore is Lomist monster.
You didn't even have to try to figure it out.
But the left of American journalism, in Western journalism, and
some folks like in the Carter administration became completely convinced
(03:06):
and touted in the face of all of this that no,
he was actually a really good guy. Richard Falk, a
Princeton professor of international law who met with Comane during
his exile outside of Paris. Andrew Young, Jimmy Carter's ambassador
to the United Nations, told reporters that the Iotola will
eventually be regarded as a saint like this fulk the
(03:30):
Princeton professor, And because people were saying there were some
on the right who said, look, this guy's a reactionary
and a terrorist. And he said, to suppose that Iotola
Comane is disassembling seems almost beyond belief. His political style
is to express his real views defiantly and without apology,
(03:51):
regardless of consequences. Blah blah blah. Thus the depiction of
him as a fanatical reactionary and the bearer of crude
prejudices seemed certainly and happily false. I know. Is also
encouraging is that as entourage of close advisors is uniformly
and composed of moderate progressive individuals.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I know you and Eli Lake are about to explain
to me why. But is it just as simple as
the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and my
enemy is me the United States. So somebody who doesn't
like us is good to.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I like, right there. There's more to it than that,
but yeah, the very short version of it is essentially,
wait a minute, you want to overthrow Western civilization. I
want to overthrow Western civilization. You want to impose Islamism,
but I want to impose Marxism. Well, I tell you what,
how about we work together and then when the civilization's overthrown,
(04:43):
will peacefully cooperate and divide the spoils. Then, of course,
like in every revolution, they kill each other as fast
as they can. But there's one more factor.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
You got jihad in my queer studies. You got queer
studies in my jihad. Two great tastes. It tastes great together.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Oh that's beautiful anyway. So this brings us to the
connection between something I have been harping about for a
very long time, as has James Lindsay and other folks.
If there is one Western progressive who illuminates the emergence
of the Red Green alliance, it is the French philosopher
(05:18):
Michelle Foucaut. Well I've mentioned several times. In nineteen seventy eight,
fouc was absolutely the peak of his influence. He was
the postmodernist who is revolutionizing universities with his withering critique
of the Western Enlightenment and values that underpin modern liberalism.
Fucaut is literally anti Enlightenment, and he is the father
(05:42):
of all critical theory. Okay, And I think people have
a tendency to think, all right, Getty and Lindsay are
paranoid or whatever, or their conspiracy theorist. I had a
friend in high school who was Indian. His parents had
emigrated from India and they were Hindus, and in visiting
(06:07):
his house and hanging out with his family, so it
became clear to me that there were figures in Hinduism
that were known and revered to billions of people around
the world who I'd never heard of. I would suggest
to you my friends, and you are my friends. Fuko
(06:28):
is that for the Neomarxists, for those who would overthrow
Western civilization. He is a godhead to them. And you
don't know his name, but trust me what I tell you.
It's incredibly important that you understand. So, this guy was
incredibly influential in the universities in the seventies, and in
nineteen seventy eight he was commissioned by two Italian newspapers
(06:50):
to report on the Iranian Revolution. And like one of
those you know Left East you know Time magazine guys
who were visiting the Soviet Union and one of their
Potempkin villages back in the forties, say or fifties, he
couldn't stop gut gushing about how great the Itola was,
and he was going to get rid of the oppression
(07:11):
of Western politics and Zabadabadu. So, and this gets a
little complicated, but I'll get to the simple part. Fuco
was a major intellectual influence on the late Columbia University
of Professor Edward Sayd's Orientalism Now a postcolonial Ism study Bible,
which critiqued how Western imperial writers made Arabs, Muslims and
(07:34):
Easterners objects in their narratives and impose their own agenda
on their histories. Here is the great postmodernist celebrating Ayatola
Komany overthrowing the Western government, even though Komane would would
execute Fuco and his company the first chance they got.
But that was the birthplace of it. And until you
(07:56):
understand that postmodernism thing, you don't get critical theory. You
don't understand what DEI is and what it's trying to accomplish.
You don't understand queer theory, radical gender theory, all the
confused adolescent girls getting their healthy breasts removed because they're
momentarily confused by you know, adolescents and puberty and the
rest of it. This is all straight back to Fuco
(08:19):
and critical theory.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Clearly, this theory is true in that it is happening.
I still don't get how you're not argued out of
that position very quickly. If somebody says to you, you
realize if you're in Iran, they would they would murder
you immediately. Well, yeah, so I guess I'd better pick
(08:42):
a different group to work with.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I mean, right, a different philosophy. Here's the thing, and
these people are smart. I mean they're insane, but they're smart.
They convince you completely of their premise that Western society
what was that phrase, uh, have made all other people
objects in their narratives and impose their own agenda on
(09:06):
their histories. The key philosophy of critical theory is that
there is no objective truth there.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Don't even seek it, it doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
All there is is narratives, and narratives come from your culture,
and since Western culture is dominant, it has created a
narrative that says the Iyatola Komene is a monster, but
that's just because they're threatened by him, so they're racists,
they're othering him. And once you have that down to
(09:38):
your bones, then you can't be argued off of it
on the basis of me saying they torture and then
kill anybody who's gay or transgender because I'm a Westerner
trying to lie to them using my narrative.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
So they don't believe that jihadis would murder gay people,
or they think jihadis only murdered gay people because of
the position we've put them in.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Uh yeah, indirectly, Yeah, the first part, one hundred percent.
And or we have so dominated them and crushed their
spirits and oppressed them that they're acting out in ways
that they won't anymore when the enlightenment comes, when the
Marxist revolution comes. I mean, like excusing the crimes of
October seventh. You saw that directly. Look, they're under oppression.
(10:30):
What do you expect them to do?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah, and I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Believe they raped and killed babies. No, they just fought
back against the oppressor self solution.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
That's a scary thing to be up against. There's way
too many people to believe it.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Oh, and they're in our schools, folks, our elementary schools,
our high schools, and our colleges and our grad schools.
That is one of the dominant philosophies, if not the
dominant philosophy in our educational complex. Which is why I'm
always saying it's the most important problem that faces America.
In China, it's the center street jihadism than man well,
(11:05):
post Marxism, but cultural Marxism, postmodernism, neo Marxism, whatever you
want to call it.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
It's interesting because back then, when Mitt Romney is running
for president and after nine to eleven, jihadism did seem
like the biggest problem in the world. And it's a problem,
no doubt. But I'm more worried about Neo Marxism in
the foothold it's got in the United States and Western
culture than I am about ji Hotism.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
By a lot, right, right, Yeah, my final word, and folks,
I apologize in advance. I'm gonna use a bad letter
here if you think I don't know that seems kind
of paranoid. These efing people wrote efing books, Their efing
names are on the efing spines, and they fing describe
(11:51):
precisely what they're efing going to do, and they're doing
it precisely as they effing do described. End of screen.
Troubling societies are brought down by their own decadence.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
If you're interested in this stuff, man, go to YouTube
and just type in James Lindsay. He's got some unbelievable
YouTube videos about this that are so damn interesting, And
a great
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Place to start is for the one hundredth time, his
book with Helen Pluckrose Cynical Theories it's great,
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