November 7, 2024 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- Are people really so blind they really don't see media bias?
- What really is the "fair share?"
- The left's "bubble."
- The blatant dishonesty of the mainstream media
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty Armstrong and Jetty
and know he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
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Speaker 3 (01:08):
Cours Light if you want a hint of beer. I
gotta push back on the polling thing. The the the
drum beat of the poles are wrong again. Who believes
what they they had it? It was gonna be within
like three four points that was the margin of air,
and they could go either way, and lots of people
were saying they could all break the same direction.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Right, So I saw a big long list of everything
that was one and a half points off. That's great.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, how accurate do you want them to be? And
in what world do you think that could possibly happen?
Uh So, Elon Musk is getting a fair amount of attention.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I noticed. Let me read just a couple of things
for you. This is from the wappo.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I think with his super pack, Elon Musk was able
to put a thumb on the scale of a presidential
election like no ultra wealthy donor before him.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
All right, ignoring I'll imagine that social media playing a
role in what people say, Ignoring all the other gazillionaires
that have weighed in Zuckerberg, Google, everybody else. But more
on that. In just a second tick tack, you have many,
many multiples of the people on Twitter. Okay, came across
this guy.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I don't know his name, but he's a big deal
in lefty media politics sort of person tweeted out. Democrats
are going to keep losing until they have their own
Joe Rogan, their own Elon Muskin, until they create their
own alternative to Fox News. It is not good enough
to contest conservative messaging in these existing spaces.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Democrats must create their own.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
So the idea so having the CBS Evening News, ABC
Evening News, Washington Post, New York Times, all of Hollywood,
all of social media except for Twitter. Education now all
the schools from kindergarten through graduate school.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
That's not good enough. I guess it's incredibly mockable. But
maybe it's just my mood. I'm just I'm so intrigued
trying to understand someone who is that blind? Or is
it that so many people have bought the notion that
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the massive media entertainment education complex is not biased. That's it,
that's it.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
He doesn't think him stating we need our own Fox News.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
You have it. He's got like eleven of them.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
It's called enos, NBC and CNN. And did you watch
the debates for interest for instance? Did you watch those
or most of the interviews that were clearly designed to
help your side?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
But it doesn't feel that way to them. I guess
you need your own Joe Rogan NPR. It's like the
biggest thing in terrestrial radio, as we call old school radio. Yeah,
that that just again. I would like to and will
mock people like that, but I am just interested in them.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
The idea that Google and Facebook and all the things
we've already mentioned don't balance out Elon Muskin anyway. But
I can't tell you how many times I've heard in
the last twenty four hours the idea, well, when you
get Elon Musk, world's richest man weighing in. Okay, So
how about this political ad spending across the swing states?
Only in Pennsylvania did the Republicans come close to spending
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as much money on ads as the Democrats did. Still
less but close, And every other swing state that Trump
won it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Wasn't even close.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It was like nine to one in terms of Democrats
spending versus Republicans spending.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, at the bottom of the hour, I want to
go through a number of learned and eminent Democrats assessments
of what went wrong, and it is every bit as
astonishing as the fella's point of view that Jack just
brought us. But I had a point I was working
my way toward. It doesn't matter on the spend. I
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just I don't understand how you how you don't get
to we spend all this money, We have the heft
of all this media. Maybe we had bad candidates and
or bad ideas that people don't like and they just
never get there. Boy, no kidding, that should be it.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
See, we had the advantage in money we control, like
practically all the information and we're still lost. So maybe
people don't like our policies. Doesn't that doesn't get to anyone, apparently.
I guess that would be hurtful to like, realize people.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Don't like what I think. I don't know, I don't,
but I don't understand hurtful. That's an emotional reaction. I
get it. I have emotions too, allegedly, But I still
say the great divide and the American people is and
you know, everybody's got a touch of both in them, obviously,
but the great divide between the American people is the
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practical people and the emotional people. People who live practical
lives that are enriched by their emotions, or people whose
reaction to everything is emotional and practical considerations don't even
enter into it if they cause, you know, negative emotions.
The idea that I as a political being, as a
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radio show, for instance, if I could not handle that
people hate it when you X and they love it
when you why. And I was so freaked out by that.
I was like, no, no, no, don't tell me that.
Don't tell me that. I can't even imagine functioning in
that way. You know, it would be a great number.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
To know, what of all the people that had to
call therapists yesterday to deal with the election?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah? All of them? How often?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
How many of those people will Obviously you wouldn't be
unhappy of your leaned right because your guy one, But
if Kamala had one, how many conservatives or Republicans would
have called a therapist to have an emergency meeting because
they were falling apart and couldn't go to work any
I mean, I've.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Been on the losing out of plenty of lections, chagrined, annoyed,
maybe even a little pissed off. But the idea that
I can't function, I can't go to work is so
foreign to me. I'm I'm maybe it's that I'm getting older.
I'm through being flabbergasted by it, and I just would
like to understand it and try to figure out, for
the good of the republic and our politics and our society,
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how do you communicate with those people. Is it possible
to reach them and pat them on the head or
does that sound condescending? I apologize pat them on the back?
Well I was, and say, look, I sincerely believe it
is this to my bones, and I've got an example
coming up later, there are people who actually think Trump
is going to suppress the free press in this country. Well, yeah,
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I had a blanket chance. Not for a minute.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
I mentioned person I saw in a focus group who said,
I have a friend there. They're gay, married, and there
they they're worried about their marriage being you know, taken
away from them if Trump wins.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yes, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Which isn't even nobody's having that conversation anywhere in America,
let alone is it going to happen.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
The legitimately sickening clip we ran from Jimmy Kimmel in
which he is breaking down in tears because of what's
going to happen to the children and the old people.
And I'm sing the immigrants that have voted for Trump,
by the way, the hundreds of thousands of hardworking immigrants
that make this country go, well, they'll be fine. The
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Venezuelan gang members are going to get their asses booted out,
thank goodness, Jimmy. But you're gonna be okay, sweetheart. Oh
there I was condescending again. I am so sorry. I'm
gonna have to work at this.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I love hearing the left explaining why a majority of
Hispanic men voted for the guy who's promising mass deportation.
It's not hard for me to understand, but it's very
hard for them to understand.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, and you could make the argument that a lot
of folks from Mexico, the Triangle country of Central America,
and Venezuelans, because you know, the majority of Venezuelans who
come to this country are not members of trende Arragua.
There's some people are looking for a better life for
their family. But if you were to sit them down
and ask them in Spanish about why do you believe this,
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that and the other, it would all boil down to
lawlessness and chaos. They understand that lawlessness breeds pain and death.
You don't have to explain that to them. They know it,
they've seen it, they've experienced it. So how could it
be that Hispanic people are good? Because your entire narrative
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that wanting reasonable enforcement of our immigration laws is racist
is fictional. It's not true.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Just to finish off the money story that we started with,
when it turns out money was the big difference maker
in a presidential election, it'll be the first time and
we'll bring you that story but so far it hasn't happened.
Read the money being spent you mean AD dollars. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
money being spent, not the economy. Money being spent AD
dollars are the idea of buying the election. It just
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hasn't happened.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
And so far.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Read the freakonomics book from years ago or whatever. There's
example of an example of it not happening. And I
just went through all the swing states where the Harris
people outspent the Trump people like.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Ten to one.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So I understand it makes you would think that it
would make a difference, but for whatever reason, it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Interestingly, analysts on all sides are saying the one ad
that moved the needle wasn't about inflation, it was about
the gender bending madness. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Like I said yesterday, it's impossible to know how much
of that stuff is in the back of people's minds.
It's just like an overall feeling of I can't vote
for that side, right, Yeah, Yeah, I read a great thing.
I got to dig that up from a tran I'm
so time changes and trans I can't get straight. It's
weird this person dresses as a woman, So that's a
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trans woman.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, it's a dude. That's it.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Well, for the sake of this argument, this is she
presents as a woman and goes by a female name and
calls herself her. She wrote a great piece yesterday about Hey,
we made so much progress a trans being able to
be accepted and be in the workplace. We've got to
get away from this craziness of making people accept dudes
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in girls' sports or forcing people to put pronouns. I mean,
we've ruined our lives with this. What are we doing?
It was really good. Yeah, well, said my friend.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
So, like I said, I actually have some hope for
the first time in a long time that maybe we
crossed some sort.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Of line of craziness and we're going back with a
variety of things. Yes, yeah, again, I feel the hope
of a huge job has begun and we've made a
little progress for the demo. There are millions of twenty
two year olds being churned out of colleges this spring
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who believe the woke badness to their bones. That's true.
It's going to be a long fight. That's a good point.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
The advantage that side has is that our side is
dying off and the side that believes that crap is
about to take.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Over, and there are forty million k through twelve verse
right now who are being taught that garbage in your
local schools this moment.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Even though I've seen so many Democratic strategists on various
cable news channels and read their columns recently talking about
we've gone too far with the culture stuff. That's not
where America is. That's not where the working classes.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Education is a subculture and it is utterly it's become
utterly perverse in this country.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yes, I do want to at some point talk about
the difference in the coverage of Trump winning this time
versus last time, because you might not remember. It's completely
different and in a good way. But we got a
lot of stuff to talk about today.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Stay with us. I was just looking at the ABC
News report.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
This is breaking news that North Korean troops are fighting Ukrainians.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Now I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I'm hoping that's in Russia where they're doing that, because
there are Ukrainian troops in Russia. Remember they took some territory.
Because NATO announced that if Ukrainian troops are fighting in Ukraine,
if North Korean troops are fighting in Ukraine. NATO's gonna
put troops in Ukraine. Then we really got a world
war going on. Wow, Yeah, craziness.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Plus Russia tried to bring down a couple of American
airplanes and nobody's talking about it.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, because it happened that news broke during the last
days of an election, right, right. But I found this
so interesting and different. It's a completely different topic.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I am going to quote the vice president who is
still sitting and Joe Biden is still the president. I'm
told that seems wrong atleact he's given a speech today.
I'll be good. They mentioned the million times that Kamala
Harris said it's about paying their fair share. I'm not
mad at anybody for achieving success, but everyone should pay
their fair share. And of course, pay their fair share
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is a practiced mantra in Washington. Is this think piece
points out and quotes everybody from Bernie Sanders Dooci to
Elizabeth Warren over and over and over again. Then, as usual,
we turned to the statistics that show the top one
percent of earners paid forty six percent of all federal
income taxes, so damn near half for one percent. Yeah,
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and the top five percent paid sixty six percent of
income taxes, thirds of taxes.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Paid by five percent. Again, I always ask define fair
to me? What would be the fair number to you?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
All of it? Right, three learners? What's it supposed to be?
It's funny that something that's ubiquitous and the political conversation
is so wrong. Anyway, this isn't about that exactly. It's
a historical look at the quote unquote rich and the
products that they embraced. And then, as Ludwig von Mises said,
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every innovation makes its appearance as a luxury of the
few well to do. After industry has become aware of it,
the luxury then becomes a necessity for all. And I'll
give you some examples. But by this mechanism, to quote
a different thinker, capitalism has its own built in welfare
transfer system from rich to the poor. Home electricity first
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introduced that the world's fair in eighteen ninety three. In
eighteen eighty one, a single light bulb cost thirty one
dollars in today's money. It is unlikely today any city
would grant a certificate of occupancy if a building were
not connected to the electrical grid. But rich people adopted
their light bulb industry said, Wow, that's a great idea,
and they found a way to manufacture them much more cheaply,
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and then everybody could have them. Conditioning back when Willis
Carrier came up with it in nineteen oh two in
a way that could be commercialized. The first air conditioners
took an entire room and cost the equivalent of three
hundred thousand to one point six million dollars. Wow. In
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modern dollars, economies of scale reduced the price between five
and ten thousand dollars installed for a central unit. You
can get a wall unit for two hundred dollars. Automobiles
an incredible luxury of only the super rich until it
caught on and an industry jumped in cell phones, remember
the brick phones, Hollywood agents and the rest of it.
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And the point of this piece, which is really quite
interesting and we'll post it at Armstrong and Getty dot com, is,
instead of vilifying success and claiming the rich don't pay
their fair share, policy makers should recognize the vital role
that wealth creation plays in society. Punitive tax policies aimed
at the ultra rich will do more harm than goods,
stifling entrepreneurship and the very drivers of human and progress
that benefit all Americans. It's a hard thing to sell
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because nobody wants to stand up for wealthy people.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Well, I got so much to say about that, but
we are out of time. We have more on the way.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
If you miss an ur get the podcast Armstrong and Getty.
There's misogyny.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
But it's not just misogyny for white men. It's misogyny
from Hispanic men, right, it's misogyny from black men. Things
we've all been talking about. Who do not want a
woman leading?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
The Black voters came through for Kamala Harris. White women
voters did not.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
She is a person of color, she is a she,
and she is an interracial marriage. And I wonder I
have this question mark in my mind. Oh we wherether
All of those things combined was too much for pockets
of this country.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
There were appeals to racism in this campaign, and there
is racial bias in this country, and there is sexism
in this country. And anybody who thinks that that did
not in any way impact on the outcome of this
race is wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
In any way.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Okay, So if anybody, if there's a single vote out
of one hundred and fifty million vote that had something
to do with the race.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
That's worth having the That's not the driving force though,
or even close right. I'm just maybe it's the mood
I'm in. I am so interested in the blindness of
these people, and I will want to kick them and
mock them again soon, but for now, I just I'm
trying to figure out a way for the good of
the country to reach them.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
A friend of mine said to this text yesterday their workplace,
which actually is a government workplace, I said, anybody at
your work need counseling, because they actually had offered counseling
the day before for anybody who would be upset, probably
a taxpair expense. A lot of puffy eyes from the men.
One of them put his arm around my shoulder, which
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I shrugged off, and told me anyone who voted for
Trump is a racist.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
It's the only explanation.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
And this person was assuming that the person they put
their arm around a read with them politically, of course,
because for some reason, the left particularly just assumes you
can say extraordinarily out of bounds things to everyone, and
we're just supposed to keep our mouths shut and put
up with it.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Well, they have created their own bubble in that, and
I'm speaking mostly for people in Bluish parts of the
country that if somebody says they're a liberal among conservatives,
the reaction is, so, what are you gonna do? If
somebody says they're a conservative. Among liberals, the reaction is
never ending shower of hate and derision. So could it
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be that there are lots of people who are these strange,
hateful people. They're close to you, but they don't say
anything because you're so mean.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Anyway, I got in the workplace yesterday with a whole
bunch of people I would have never have guessed were
so thrilled with Drum's victory because you have to keep
your mouth shut.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah. Yeah, So anyway, listening to that montage of clips,
I'm just I'm fascinated and well, just astounded by nobody
to Kamala Harris failed miserably in the Democratic primaries not
long ago. She had awful approval ratings as the vice president.
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So if you had a white dude who failed miserably
in the primaries, then had awful approval numbers as vice
president and he lost, why would you explain that racism? Okay, okay, okay,
So why is that incredibly so obvious. I'm not even
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gonna bother repeating it. Explanation not applicable here, Help me understand,
I would love to have that country.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Well for a guy to put his armor on someone
say racism. It's the only explanation?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Is it the only explanation? I feel like I could come.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Up with some like start with maybe the two issues
that every pool showed were the most important issues to people,
the economy in the border, which were right well on the.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Side of Trump. Thanks for the Thanks for the companying
arm around my shoulder, But what about the by far
two biggest issues in the election, anything any significance to those?
You think? Yeah, just frustrating. So I've been pouring through
all sorts of different think pieces from the liberal media,
including this forum between many of the greatest thinkers at
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the Washington Post, Ruth Marcus and David something I can't
even remember, but anyway, David says, my biggest question is
what comes next for Democrats. There will inevitably be hard
questions about why Harris didn't do better. I'm not sure
whether people will blame the progressive wing of the party
or progressives will claim they were right and Harris made
a big mistake in moving to the center. For the Republicans,
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the next step read it that way. Good luck you
were progressive enough. Yeah, that's a good read. Again, I'm
just weird. I just don't get it. The biggest and
scariest question as we contemplate the likelihood of a Trump
victory is will they wage a war of retribution? And
Matt asks, I mean we say, oh, you mentioned the
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former AIDS who described Trump as a fascist, which is
true they did. But David says, Ruth, you know the
legal system better than anyone. Do you think our courts
and legal institutions are strong enough to protect our country
against the danger that Matt describes of a Trump fascist tendencies?
Ruth says, in terms of jailing reporters and prosecuting opponents,
I think the answer is somewhat. But detention camps, oh
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my god, for whom, Like for illegal immigrants? Do you
mean like the very same facilities that Obama used that
were filled to bursting, Yeah, they might happen. Dismantling the
civil service now I've run into that in several places.
The discussion of how it is an unmitigated and unmistakable
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evil to reduce the size of the federal government. Yeah,
we have to get to that later.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Wall Street Journal has a good piece about how many
more federal employees there are now than there were just
a couple of years ago, and Elon's gonna take that on.
But as you just pointed out, a whole bunch of
people think doing away with any any government job is
a horror.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Right. First of all, we can do the whole hour
on that next hour, and I would be thrilled. But
dismantling the civil service is listed as something is clear
that is clearly an indisputably un evil thing. And again
I gotta stop you. And these people are bright. They're
utterly well lacking in wisdom and perspective, but they're they're
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reasonably bright. And I would say, I'm getting the idea
that any reduction of the federal workforce is a bad
thing to you? Does it follow then that any growth
in the federal workforce is a good thing. Let's talk
about this. How do you not How does that not
enter into your head as you're forming an argument? I
don't know. Then she tries to shame the justices. Bah
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bah bah uh. It's then Math tries to drag him
back to reality. It's worth noting that at this writing
it seems very possible that Trump also one of the
popular vote, you can even pass the fifty percent threshold.
It does seem like a moment when we have to
take stock of the country we're living in and admit,
as Ruth said at the outset, that it might not
be the country some of us thought it was. Whatever,
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Now we're at a crossroads, stopped at the traffic light,
plenty of time to decide we're gonna turn right or
go straight or left or whatever. Is it not the
country you thought it was, because it's actually far worse
and far evil, which is where they're going right? Or
is it because you have failed to perceive the country
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as it is. It's not us, it's you. But they
never even entertain that notion.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Well, as you heard Scarborough yesterday on Morning Joe lecturing
Hispanic men and black men for being sexist and racist
in all kinds of different things, because what else are
you gonna do other than recognize that men in particular
ain't digging a lot of your.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Crazy wol policies right right. And then finally this from David.
He says they're talking about what would have mattered, what
might have won it, And he says, I wish Harris
had somehow found a way to make the American people
seem more clearly Donald Trump is so. At the Washington Post,
they're leading thinkers think the problem was Kamala didn't lean
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enough into Trump is evil. And I've got half a
dozen of these examples. But I love what George Will wrote,
and he of course talks about she's really not a
good campaigner at all, not a good not a good candidation,
never been popular, never really won anything on the national stage, vapid.
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And then he pointed out, and I love this, she
mocked Trump for being such a feeble president that he
could not even build his border wall. Simultaneously, she made
it clear that in a second term, the triumph of
his hitlarian values with steamroll America's democratic institutions. Perhaps voters
detected a contradiction. Yes, he's so weak he couldn't even
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build his wall, but if he wins, he will become
hit letter at rules and stand us ride to the
United States crushing which one was it? And then this
they didn't even touch on it in the Washington Post
editorial board, except in that very brief discussion of maybe
the progressives were right, maybe she shouldn't attack to the center,
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and Will puts it beautifully as I think we have
in other's Harris, who called Trump weird, leads a party
hospitable to advanced thinkers who believe that men can menstruate.
Speaking of weird, the Biden Harris administration Secretary of Health
and Human Services could not be cajoled during Senate testimony
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to refer to mothers as other than birthing people. And
perhaps they're still loud. It's kind of funny. Oh yeah.
Harris's difficulties with male voters had something to do with
their party having too many members who think that, in
their favorite phrase, toxic masculinity, the adjective is actually redundant.
All masculinity is toxic. Trump has hardly monopolized the supply
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of weirdness. Yeah, no kidding, and they can weard fast.
I Ah, I'm not sure how much progress we can
make as a country until we clean out the rot,
the infection of our education systems that are churning out
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generation after generation of Ruth Marcus's The Wall Street Journal.
Ruth I was referring to speaking of our education system.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Guess what college canceled classes yesterday because of the election.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Pretty funny, but we.
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Speaker 3 (28:55):
We might be closer to World War than we've been
in a long time, and it's not getting much attention
because the election. We'll get to that coming up in
a little bit, but Harvard professors canceled a lot of
classes yesterday students feeling too much emotion the day after
the loss of their candidate courses such had Ivy League colleges.
(29:15):
I mean, I'm leaving out to technical education. They're a joke.
It is crazy. So in theory, or it used to be,
people viewed it this way that the best colleges of
the smartest students in America. We all know that's a
bunch of crap now, but they're too weak to go
to school when they're preferred presidential candidate loses courses such
as Sociology eleven fifty six, Statistics for Social Sciences, and
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Applied math Solving and Optimizing is where well as several
general education courses. The ancient Greek hero popular culture. In
modern China, all canceled classes Wednesday, made attendance optional, or
extended assignment deadlines. You know, I'm not as we recover
this was the language as we recover from the eventful
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election night process the implications of Trump's victory. Please know
that classes will proceed in this manner and cancel extended assignments,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I'm not entirely comfortable with this metaphor because there are
so many great moms in the world, But you got
your your mommy impulses and your daddy impulses. And when
the kid falls down, skins his knee, or the election
goes the wrong way that the cliche admittedly mommy impulses
oh honey, oh sweetheart, oh my darling, and the daddy impulses, Ah,
You're gonna be fine, Go play, go have fun. We
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need so much more of the daddy impulse on the
college campuses. Hey, I know you're dis wanted, but applied math.
Let's get to work, get up, You're gonna have You're
gonna be fine. We need so much more of that.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
How few years ago would it have been insane to
hear that one person in America couldn't go to work
or school the next day after a presidential election, if
you're including the guy you lost, if you'd have heard
of one person, you'd have thought, Wow, that poor person
is really weak or crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Now it's just accepted for grown ups, right what, Yeah,
I know that is a real cultural change. Where did
it come from? Education?
Speaker 3 (31:09):
North Korean troops fight Ukrainians that ain't good? Among other
things on the way are from.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
So.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I hope with the presidential election over and maybe by
tomorrow we'll be back to paying attention to all the
news that's going on around the world or in our
country that's not about who's president at any given time,
including what's going on in Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Here's latest report from ABC News.
Speaker 7 (31:35):
North Korean troops have now engaged in combat with the
Ukrainian forces for the first time. This is according to
both Ukrainian and US officials. More than ten thousand North
Koreans are now believed to have joined the fighting alongside
Russian forces.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
The class has taken place in Curse.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Remember this is the border region of Russia. The Ukrainian
forces invaded over the summer, partly taking over areas of it.
It marks a significant escalation. I think in this conflict
there's now going spectacularly badly for Ukraine, and he's going
to present a huge challenge for.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Presidents elect Trump.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
President Zelenski speaking to Trump saying I had an excellent
call with him and that strong and I'm wavering US
leadership is vital for the world and for a just peace.
Remember Trump promised to end this conflict within twenty four hours,
so now his transition team is going to have to
try and turn those promises into reality.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Did he say it, it's going spectacularly bad for Ukraine?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yes? Wow. Did you see the drone attack Ukraine had on.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
The ships, the Russian ships yesterday? Well that was something
I don't know if that's technology that we've sent them or.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
What, but some of it is. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
So you got North Korean troops fighting Ukrainians in Russia
alongside Russian troops. NATO has said if North Korean troops
are fighting in Ukraine, then we're going to put NATO
troops in Ukraine. I assume with the idea of this
is a serious red line. I mean, you do not
want to cross the red line of putting North Korean
troops in Russia. Why would the world make that such
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a declaration. Why are Russian troops, you know, killing families
in their homes in Ukraine, something NATO won't stand up against,
but North Korean troops would be. I suspect very strongly,
although I have not, you know, heard the exact reasoning
of the Europeans and the NATO leadership. But you have
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an organized multi country war of conquest in Europe, including
North Korea, which has got zero business fighting over anything
in Europe borders or whatever.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
So yeah, that's just no no. If you're recruiting Asian
countries to come and kill Europeans and help you out, no,
Europe has to stand up against that, and their biggest
ally of the United States.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
You know that Bob Woodward book that came out a
couple of weeks ago, and like all Bob Woodward books,
got a whole bunch of attention for a couple of
days with some cherry picked out of context quotes that
hurt the Republican and helped the Democrat, and then the
book goes away. Well, I'm actually reading the book and
the stuff about Trump is like I wouldn't even have
noticed it.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
At all.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I mean, it's just like reading the book, it doesn't
stand out as interesting at all. A couple of things
that did stand out is interesting. This is the first
place I've seen reporting where we had a human in
the Kremlin. That's where we were getting all our information,
and why we knew Russia was going to go into
Ukraine and knew so much about it. We had an
actual human being in the Kremlin close to Putin as
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a source.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That's something. And this as they suffered an unfortunate fall human.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
And this I thought this should have been the explosive
nugget from Woodward's book. During the presidential election, Putin actually
went into Ukraine because of the way Biden handled Afghanistan.
He saw by dealing with that and thought, oh man,
there's no way he can stop us.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Look at that.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
You're going to tell me that that's not worthy of
discussion as a political story.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
It's funny. The media must have skimmed the book so
quickly they missed that part. Right. You cannot have enough
contempt for the dishonesty the mainstream media. You'd have to
work on it all day long and do I don't know,
exercises or something in other words, that trick it up.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
In other words, the Trump claimed that he would have
never done that if I was in office is quite
possibly true.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
I think it is. I've always thought that I think
a lot of Trump's bluster is bull crap, but that
I agreed with Oh speaking of Russia and explosive nuggets,
Western security officials believe that two incendiary devices shipped via
DHL were part of a covert Russian operation that ultimately
aimed to start fires aboard cargo or passenger aircraft flying
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to the US in Canada, part of Moscow's sabotage campaign
against Washington and its allies. Gold device is ignited in
Germany and England. What's your goal there? To start a
nuclear holocaust? You bring down a passenger plane and we
can trust to Russia. We're at war, aren't we? Uh yeah, yeah, yeah,
a warm war somewhere between cold and hot Man. Trump's
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inheriting all this, and who knows how he's gonna handle it.
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drum beat of the poles are wrong again. Who believes
what they they had it? It was gonna be within
like three four points that was the margin of air,
and they could go either way, and lots of people
were saying they could all break the same direction.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Right, So I saw a big long list of everything
that was one and a half points off. That's great.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, how accurate do you want them to be? And
in what world do you think that could possibly happen?
Uh So, Elon Musk is getting a fair amount of attention.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I noticed. Let me read just a couple of things
for you. This is from the wappo.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I think with his super pack, Elon Musk was able
to put a thumb on the scale of a presidential
election like no ultra wealthy donor before him.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
All right, ignoring I'll imagine that social media playing a
role in what people say, Ignoring all the other gazillionaires
that have weighed in Zuckerberg, Google, everybody else. But more
on that. In just a second tick tack, you have many,
many multiples of the people on Twitter. Okay, came across
this guy.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I don't know his name, but he's a big deal
in lefty media politics sort of person tweeted out. Democrats
are going to keep losing until they have their own
Joe Rogan, their own Elon Muskin, until they create their
own alternative to Fox News. It is not good enough
to contest conservative messaging in these existing spaces.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Democrats must create their own.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
So the idea so having the CBS Evening News, ABC
Evening News, Washington Post, New York Times, all of Hollywood,
all of social media except for Twitter. Education now all
the schools from kindergarten through graduate school.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
That's not good enough. I guess it's incredibly mockable. But
maybe it's just my mood. I'm just I'm so intrigued
trying to understand someone who is that blind? Or is
it that so many people have bought the notion that
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the massive media entertainment education complex is not biased. That's it,
that's it.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
He doesn't think him stating we need our own Fox News.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
You have it. He's got like eleven of them.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
It's called enos, NBC and CNN. And did you watch
the debates for interest for instance? Did you watch those
or most of the interviews that were clearly designed to
help your side?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
But it doesn't feel that way to them. I guess
you need your own Joe Rogan NPR. It's like the
biggest thing in terrestrial radio, as we call old school radio. Yeah,
that that just again. I would like to and will
mock people like that, but I am just interested in them.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
The idea that Google and Facebook and all the things
we've already mentioned don't balance out Elon Muskin anyway. But
I can't tell you how many times I've heard in
the last twenty four hours the idea, well, when you
get Elon Musk, world's richest man weighing in. Okay, So
how about this political ad spending across the swing states?
Only in Pennsylvania did the Republicans come close to spending
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as much money on ads as the Democrats did. Still
less but close, And every other swing state that Trump
won it.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Wasn't even close.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
It was like nine to one in terms of Democrats
spending versus Republicans spending.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah, at the bottom of the hour, I want to
go through a number of learned and eminent Democrats assessments
of what went wrong, and it is every bit as
astonishing as the fella's point of view that Jack just
brought us. But I had a point I was working
my way toward. It doesn't matter on the spend. I
(05:05):
just I don't understand how you how you don't get
to we spend all this money, We have the heft
of all this media. Maybe we had bad candidates and
or bad ideas that people don't like and they just
never get there. Boy, no kidding, that should be it.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
See, we had the advantage in money we control, like
practically all the information and we're still lost. So maybe
people don't like our policies. Doesn't that doesn't get to anyone, apparently.
I guess that would be hurtful to like, realize people.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Don't like what I think. I don't know, I don't,
but I don't understand hurtful. That's an emotional reaction. I
get it. I have emotions too, allegedly, But I still
say the great divide and the American people is and
you know, everybody's got a touch of both in them, obviously,
but the great divide between the American people is the
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practical people and the emotional people. People who live practical
lives that are enriched by their emotions, or people whose
reaction to everything is emotional and practical considerations don't even
enter into it if they cause, you know, negative emotions.
The idea that I as a political being, as a
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radio show, for instance, if I could not handle that
people hate it when you X and they love it
when you why. And I was so freaked out by that.
I was like, no, no, no, don't tell me that.
Don't tell me that. I can't even imagine functioning in
that way. You know, it would be a great number.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
To know, what of all the people that had to
call therapists yesterday to deal with the election?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah? All of them? How often?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
How many of those people will Obviously you wouldn't be
unhappy of your leaned right because your guy one, But
if Kamala had one, how many conservatives or Republicans would
have called a therapist to have an emergency meeting because
they were falling apart and couldn't go to work any
I mean, I've.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Been on the losing out of plenty of lections, chagrined, annoyed,
maybe even a little pissed off. But the idea that
I can't function, I can't go to work is so
foreign to me. I'm I'm maybe it's that I'm getting older.
I'm through being flabbergasted by it, and I just would
like to understand it and try to figure out, for
the good of the republic and our politics and our society,
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how do you communicate with those people. Is it possible
to reach them and pat them on the head or
does that sound condescending? I apologize pat them on the back?
Well I was, and say, look, I sincerely believe it
is this to my bones, and I've got an example
coming up later, there are people who actually think Trump
is going to suppress the free press in this country. Well, yeah,
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I had a blanket chance. Not for a minute.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
I mentioned person I saw in a focus group who said,
I have a friend there. They're gay, married, and there
they they're worried about their marriage being you know, taken
away from them if Trump wins.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yes, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Which isn't even nobody's having that conversation anywhere in America,
let alone is it going to happen.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
The legitimately sickening clip we ran from Jimmy Kimmel in
which he is breaking down in tears because of what's
going to happen to the children and the old people.
And I'm sing the immigrants that have voted for Trump,
by the way, the hundreds of thousands of hardworking immigrants
that make this country go, well, they'll be fine. The
(08:39):
Venezuelan gang members are going to get their asses booted out,
thank goodness, Jimmy. But you're gonna be okay, sweetheart. Oh
there I was condescending again. I am so sorry. I'm
gonna have to work at this.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I love hearing the left explaining why a majority of
Hispanic men voted for the guy who's promising mass deportation.
It's not hard for me to understand, but it's very
hard for them to understand.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, and you could make the argument that a lot
of folks from Mexico, the Triangle country of Central America,
and Venezuelans, because you know, the majority of Venezuelans who
come to this country are not members of trende Arragua.
There's some people are looking for a better life for
their family. But if you were to sit them down
and ask them in Spanish about why do you believe this,
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that and the other, it would all boil down to
lawlessness and chaos. They understand that lawlessness breeds pain and death.
You don't have to explain that to them. They know it,
they've seen it, they've experienced it. So how could it
be that Hispanic people are good? Because your entire narrative
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that wanting reasonable enforcement of our immigration laws is racist
is fictional. It's not true.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Just to finish off the money story that we started with,
when it turns out money was the big difference maker
in a presidential election, it'll be the first time and
we'll bring you that story but so far it hasn't happened.
Read the money being spent you mean AD dollars. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
money being spent, not the economy. Money being spent AD
dollars are the idea of buying the election. It just
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hasn't happened.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
And so far.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Read the freakonomics book from years ago or whatever. There's
example of an example of it not happening. And I
just went through all the swing states where the Harris
people outspent the Trump people like.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Ten to one.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So I understand it makes you would think that it
would make a difference, but for whatever reason, it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Interestingly, analysts on all sides are saying the one ad
that moved the needle wasn't about inflation, it was about
the gender bending madness. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Like I said yesterday, it's impossible to know how much
of that stuff is in the back of people's minds.
It's just like an overall feeling of I can't vote
for that side, right, Yeah, Yeah, I read a great thing.
I got to dig that up from a tran I'm
so time changes and trans I can't get straight. It's
weird this person dresses as a woman, So that's a
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trans woman.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, it's a dude. That's it.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Well, for the sake of this argument, this is she
presents as a woman and goes by a female name and
calls herself her. She wrote a great piece yesterday about Hey,
we made so much progress a trans being able to
be accepted and be in the workplace. We've got to
get away from this craziness of making people accept dudes
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in girls' sports or forcing people to put pronouns. I mean,
we've ruined our lives with this. What are we doing?
It was really good. Yeah, well, said my friend.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
So, like I said, I actually have some hope for
the first time in a long time that maybe we
crossed some sort.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Of line of craziness and we're going back with a
variety of things. Yes, yeah, again, I feel the hope
of a huge job has begun and we've made a
little progress for the demo. There are millions of twenty
two year olds being churned out of colleges this spring
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who believe the woke badness to their bones. That's true.
It's going to be a long fight. That's a good point.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
The advantage that side has is that our side is
dying off and the side that believes that crap is
about to take.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Over, and there are forty million k through twelve verse
right now who are being taught that garbage in your
local schools this moment.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Even though I've seen so many Democratic strategists on various
cable news channels and read their columns recently talking about
we've gone too far with the culture stuff. That's not
where America is. That's not where the working classes.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Education is a subculture and it is utterly it's become
utterly perverse in this country.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yes, I do want to at some point talk about
the difference in the coverage of Trump winning this time
versus last time, because you might not remember. It's completely
different and in a good way. But we got a
lot of stuff to talk about today.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Stay with us. I was just looking at the ABC
News report.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
This is breaking news that North Korean troops are fighting Ukrainians.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Now I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I'm hoping that's in Russia where they're doing that, because
there are Ukrainian troops in Russia. Remember they took some territory.
Because NATO announced that if Ukrainian troops are fighting in Ukraine,
if North Korean troops are fighting in Ukraine. NATO's gonna
put troops in Ukraine. Then we really got a world
war going on. Wow, Yeah, craziness.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Plus Russia tried to bring down a couple of American
airplanes and nobody's talking about it.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, because it happened that news broke during the last
days of an election, right, right. But I found this
so interesting and different. It's a completely different topic.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I am going to quote the vice president who is
still sitting and Joe Biden is still the president. I'm
told that seems wrong atleact he's given a speech today.
I'll be good. They mentioned the million times that Kamala
Harris said it's about paying their fair share. I'm not
mad at anybody for achieving success, but everyone should pay
their fair share. And of course, pay their fair share
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is a practiced mantra in Washington. Is this think piece
points out and quotes everybody from Bernie Sanders Dooci to
Elizabeth Warren over and over and over again. Then, as usual,
we turned to the statistics that show the top one
percent of earners paid forty six percent of all federal
income taxes, so damn near half for one percent. Yeah,
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and the top five percent paid sixty six percent of
income taxes, thirds of taxes.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Paid by five percent. Again, I always ask define fair
to me? What would be the fair number to you?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
All of it? Right, three learners? What's it supposed to be?
It's funny that something that's ubiquitous and the political conversation
is so wrong. Anyway, this isn't about that exactly. It's
a historical look at the quote unquote rich and the
products that they embraced. And then, as Ludwig von Mises said,
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every innovation makes its appearance as a luxury of the
few well to do. After industry has become aware of it,
the luxury then becomes a necessity for all. And I'll
give you some examples. But by this mechanism, to quote
a different thinker, capitalism has its own built in welfare
transfer system from rich to the poor. Home electricity first
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introduced that the world's fair in eighteen ninety three. In
eighteen eighty one, a single light bulb cost thirty one
dollars in today's money. It is unlikely today any city
would grant a certificate of occupancy if a building were
not connected to the electrical grid. But rich people adopted
their light bulb industry said, Wow, that's a great idea,
and they found a way to manufacture them much more cheaply,
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and then everybody could have them. Conditioning back when Willis
Carrier came up with it in nineteen oh two in
a way that could be commercialized. The first air conditioners
took an entire room and cost the equivalent of three
hundred thousand to one point six million dollars. Wow. In
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modern dollars, economies of scale reduced the price between five
and ten thousand dollars installed for a central unit. You
can get a wall unit for two hundred dollars. Automobiles
an incredible luxury of only the super rich until it
caught on and an industry jumped in cell phones, remember
the brick phones, Hollywood agents and the rest of it.
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And the point of this piece, which is really quite
interesting and we'll post it at Armstrong and Getty dot com, is,
instead of vilifying success and claiming the rich don't pay
their fair share, policy makers should recognize the vital role
that wealth creation plays in society. Punitive tax policies aimed
at the ultra rich will do more harm than goods,
stifling entrepreneurship and the very drivers of human and progress
that benefit all Americans. It's a hard thing to sell
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because nobody wants to stand up for wealthy people.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Well, I got so much to say about that, but
we are out of time. We have more on the way.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
If you miss an ur get the podcast Armstrong and Getty.
There's misogyny.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
But it's not just misogyny for white men. It's misogyny
from Hispanic men, right, it's misogyny from black men. Things
we've all been talking about. Who do not want a
woman leading?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
The Black voters came through for Kamala Harris. White women
voters did not.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
She is a person of color, she is a she,
and she is an interracial marriage. And I wonder I
have this question mark in my mind. Oh we wherether
All of those things combined was too much for pockets
of this country.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
There were appeals to racism in this campaign, and there
is racial bias in this country, and there is sexism
in this country. And anybody who thinks that that did
not in any way impact on the outcome of this
race is wrong.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
In any way.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Okay, So if anybody, if there's a single vote out
of one hundred and fifty million vote that had something
to do with the race.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
That's worth having the That's not the driving force though,
or even close right. I'm just maybe it's the mood
I'm in. I am so interested in the blindness of
these people, and I will want to kick them and
mock them again soon, but for now, I just I'm
trying to figure out a way for the good of
the country to reach them.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
A friend of mine said to this text yesterday their workplace,
which actually is a government workplace, I said, anybody at
your work need counseling, because they actually had offered counseling
the day before for anybody who would be upset, probably
a taxpair expense. A lot of puffy eyes from the men.
One of them put his arm around my shoulder, which
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I shrugged off, and told me anyone who voted for
Trump is a racist.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
It's the only explanation.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
And this person was assuming that the person they put
their arm around a read with them politically, of course,
because for some reason, the left particularly just assumes you
can say extraordinarily out of bounds things to everyone, and
we're just supposed to keep our mouths shut and put
up with it.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Well, they have created their own bubble in that, and
I'm speaking mostly for people in Bluish parts of the
country that if somebody says they're a liberal among conservatives,
the reaction is, so, what are you gonna do? If
somebody says they're a conservative. Among liberals, the reaction is
never ending shower of hate and derision. So could it
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be that there are lots of people who are these strange,
hateful people. They're close to you, but they don't say
anything because you're so mean.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Anyway, I got in the workplace yesterday with a whole
bunch of people I would have never have guessed were
so thrilled with Drum's victory because you have to keep
your mouth shut.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah. Yeah, So anyway, listening to that montage of clips,
I'm just I'm fascinated and well, just astounded by nobody
to Kamala Harris failed miserably in the Democratic primaries not
long ago. She had awful approval ratings as the vice president.
(20:13):
So if you had a white dude who failed miserably
in the primaries, then had awful approval numbers as vice
president and he lost, why would you explain that racism? Okay, okay, okay,
So why is that incredibly so obvious. I'm not even
(20:33):
gonna bother repeating it. Explanation not applicable here, Help me understand,
I would love to have that country.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Well for a guy to put his armor on someone
say racism. It's the only explanation?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Is it the only explanation? I feel like I could come.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Up with some like start with maybe the two issues
that every pool showed were the most important issues to people,
the economy in the border, which were right well on the.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Side of Trump. Thanks for the Thanks for the companying
arm around my shoulder, But what about the by far
two biggest issues in the election, anything any significance to those?
You think? Yeah, just frustrating. So I've been pouring through
all sorts of different think pieces from the liberal media,
including this forum between many of the greatest thinkers at
(21:17):
the Washington Post, Ruth Marcus and David something I can't
even remember, but anyway, David says, my biggest question is
what comes next for Democrats. There will inevitably be hard
questions about why Harris didn't do better. I'm not sure
whether people will blame the progressive wing of the party
or progressives will claim they were right and Harris made
a big mistake in moving to the center. For the Republicans,
(21:40):
the next step read it that way. Good luck you
were progressive enough. Yeah, that's a good read. Again, I'm
just weird. I just don't get it. The biggest and
scariest question as we contemplate the likelihood of a Trump
victory is will they wage a war of retribution? And
Matt asks, I mean we say, oh, you mentioned the
(22:03):
former AIDS who described Trump as a fascist, which is
true they did. But David says, Ruth, you know the
legal system better than anyone. Do you think our courts
and legal institutions are strong enough to protect our country
against the danger that Matt describes of a Trump fascist tendencies?
Ruth says, in terms of jailing reporters and prosecuting opponents,
I think the answer is somewhat. But detention camps, oh
(22:28):
my god, for whom, Like for illegal immigrants? Do you
mean like the very same facilities that Obama used that
were filled to bursting, Yeah, they might happen. Dismantling the
civil service now I've run into that in several places.
The discussion of how it is an unmitigated and unmistakable
(22:50):
evil to reduce the size of the federal government. Yeah,
we have to get to that later.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Wall Street Journal has a good piece about how many
more federal employees there are now than there were just
a couple of years ago, and Elon's gonna take that on.
But as you just pointed out, a whole bunch of
people think doing away with any any government job is
a horror.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Right. First of all, we can do the whole hour
on that next hour, and I would be thrilled. But
dismantling the civil service is listed as something is clear
that is clearly an indisputably un evil thing. And again
I gotta stop you. And these people are bright. They're
utterly well lacking in wisdom and perspective, but they're they're
(23:28):
reasonably bright. And I would say, I'm getting the idea
that any reduction of the federal workforce is a bad
thing to you? Does it follow then that any growth
in the federal workforce is a good thing. Let's talk
about this. How do you not How does that not
enter into your head as you're forming an argument? I
don't know. Then she tries to shame the justices. Bah
(23:51):
bah bah uh. It's then Math tries to drag him
back to reality. It's worth noting that at this writing
it seems very possible that Trump also one of the
popular vote, you can even pass the fifty percent threshold.
It does seem like a moment when we have to
take stock of the country we're living in and admit,
as Ruth said at the outset, that it might not
be the country some of us thought it was. Whatever,
(24:13):
Now we're at a crossroads, stopped at the traffic light,
plenty of time to decide we're gonna turn right or
go straight or left or whatever. Is it not the
country you thought it was, because it's actually far worse
and far evil, which is where they're going right? Or
is it because you have failed to perceive the country
(24:36):
as it is. It's not us, it's you. But they
never even entertain that notion.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Well, as you heard Scarborough yesterday on Morning Joe lecturing
Hispanic men and black men for being sexist and racist
in all kinds of different things, because what else are
you gonna do other than recognize that men in particular
ain't digging a lot of your.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Crazy wol policies right right. And then finally this from David.
He says they're talking about what would have mattered, what
might have won it, And he says, I wish Harris
had somehow found a way to make the American people
seem more clearly Donald Trump is so. At the Washington Post,
they're leading thinkers think the problem was Kamala didn't lean
(25:26):
enough into Trump is evil. And I've got half a
dozen of these examples. But I love what George Will wrote,
and he of course talks about she's really not a
good campaigner at all, not a good not a good candidation,
never been popular, never really won anything on the national stage, vapid.
(25:51):
And then he pointed out, and I love this, she
mocked Trump for being such a feeble president that he
could not even build his border wall. Simultaneously, she made
it clear that in a second term, the triumph of
his hitlarian values with steamroll America's democratic institutions. Perhaps voters
detected a contradiction. Yes, he's so weak he couldn't even
(26:13):
build his wall, but if he wins, he will become
hit letter at rules and stand us ride to the
United States crushing which one was it? And then this
they didn't even touch on it in the Washington Post
editorial board, except in that very brief discussion of maybe
the progressives were right, maybe she shouldn't attack to the center,
(26:35):
and Will puts it beautifully as I think we have
in other's Harris, who called Trump weird, leads a party
hospitable to advanced thinkers who believe that men can menstruate.
Speaking of weird, the Biden Harris administration Secretary of Health
and Human Services could not be cajoled during Senate testimony
(26:55):
to refer to mothers as other than birthing people. And
perhaps they're still loud. It's kind of funny. Oh yeah.
Harris's difficulties with male voters had something to do with
their party having too many members who think that, in
their favorite phrase, toxic masculinity, the adjective is actually redundant.
All masculinity is toxic. Trump has hardly monopolized the supply
(27:18):
of weirdness. Yeah, no kidding, and they can weard fast.
I Ah, I'm not sure how much progress we can
make as a country until we clean out the rot,
the infection of our education systems that are churning out
(27:39):
generation after generation of Ruth Marcus's The Wall Street Journal.
Ruth I was referring to speaking of our education system.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Guess what college canceled classes yesterday because of the election.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Pretty funny, but we.
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Speaker 3 (28:55):
We might be closer to World War than we've been
in a long time, and it's not getting much attention
because the election. We'll get to that coming up in
a little bit, but Harvard professors canceled a lot of
classes yesterday students feeling too much emotion the day after
the loss of their candidate courses such had Ivy League colleges.
(29:15):
I mean, I'm leaving out to technical education. They're a joke.
It is crazy. So in theory, or it used to be,
people viewed it this way that the best colleges of
the smartest students in America. We all know that's a
bunch of crap now, but they're too weak to go
to school when they're preferred presidential candidate loses courses such
as Sociology eleven fifty six, Statistics for Social Sciences, and
(29:38):
Applied math Solving and Optimizing is where well as several
general education courses. The ancient Greek hero popular culture. In
modern China, all canceled classes Wednesday, made attendance optional, or
extended assignment deadlines. You know, I'm not as we recover
this was the language as we recover from the eventful
(29:59):
election night process the implications of Trump's victory. Please know
that classes will proceed in this manner and cancel extended assignments,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I'm not entirely comfortable with this metaphor because there are
so many great moms in the world, But you got
your your mommy impulses and your daddy impulses. And when
the kid falls down, skins his knee, or the election
goes the wrong way that the cliche admittedly mommy impulses
oh honey, oh sweetheart, oh my darling, and the daddy impulses, Ah,
You're gonna be fine, Go play, go have fun. We
(30:31):
need so much more of the daddy impulse on the
college campuses. Hey, I know you're dis wanted, but applied math.
Let's get to work, get up, You're gonna have You're
gonna be fine. We need so much more of that.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
How few years ago would it have been insane to
hear that one person in America couldn't go to work
or school the next day after a presidential election, if
you're including the guy you lost, if you'd have heard
of one person, you'd have thought, Wow, that poor person
is really weak or crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Now it's just accepted for grown ups, right what, Yeah,
I know that is a real cultural change. Where did
it come from? Education?
Speaker 3 (31:09):
North Korean troops fight Ukrainians that ain't good? Among other
things on the way are from.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
So.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I hope with the presidential election over and maybe by
tomorrow we'll be back to paying attention to all the
news that's going on around the world or in our
country that's not about who's president at any given time,
including what's going on in Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Here's latest report from ABC News.
Speaker 7 (31:35):
North Korean troops have now engaged in combat with the
Ukrainian forces for the first time. This is according to
both Ukrainian and US officials. More than ten thousand North
Koreans are now believed to have joined the fighting alongside
Russian forces.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
The class has taken place in Curse.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Remember this is the border region of Russia. The Ukrainian
forces invaded over the summer, partly taking over areas of it.
It marks a significant escalation. I think in this conflict
there's now going spectacularly badly for Ukraine, and he's going
to present a huge challenge for.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Presidents elect Trump.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
President Zelenski speaking to Trump saying I had an excellent
call with him and that strong and I'm wavering US
leadership is vital for the world and for a just peace.
Remember Trump promised to end this conflict within twenty four hours,
so now his transition team is going to have to
try and turn those promises into reality.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Did he say it, it's going spectacularly bad for Ukraine?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yes? Wow. Did you see the drone attack Ukraine had on.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
The ships, the Russian ships yesterday? Well that was something
I don't know if that's technology that we've sent them or.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
What, but some of it is. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
So you got North Korean troops fighting Ukrainians in Russia
alongside Russian troops. NATO has said if North Korean troops
are fighting in Ukraine, then we're going to put NATO
troops in Ukraine. I assume with the idea of this
is a serious red line. I mean, you do not
want to cross the red line of putting North Korean
troops in Russia. Why would the world make that such
(33:07):
a declaration. Why are Russian troops, you know, killing families
in their homes in Ukraine, something NATO won't stand up against,
but North Korean troops would be. I suspect very strongly,
although I have not, you know, heard the exact reasoning
of the Europeans and the NATO leadership. But you have
(33:28):
an organized multi country war of conquest in Europe, including
North Korea, which has got zero business fighting over anything
in Europe borders or whatever.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
So yeah, that's just no no. If you're recruiting Asian
countries to come and kill Europeans and help you out, no,
Europe has to stand up against that, and their biggest
ally of the United States.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
You know that Bob Woodward book that came out a
couple of weeks ago, and like all Bob Woodward books,
got a whole bunch of attention for a couple of
days with some cherry picked out of context quotes that
hurt the Republican and helped the Democrat, and then the
book goes away. Well, I'm actually reading the book and
the stuff about Trump is like I wouldn't even have
noticed it.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
At all.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I mean, it's just like reading the book, it doesn't
stand out as interesting at all. A couple of things
that did stand out is interesting. This is the first
place I've seen reporting where we had a human in
the Kremlin. That's where we were getting all our information,
and why we knew Russia was going to go into
Ukraine and knew so much about it. We had an
actual human being in the Kremlin close to Putin as
(34:40):
a source.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That's something. And this as they suffered an unfortunate fall human.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
And this I thought this should have been the explosive
nugget from Woodward's book. During the presidential election, Putin actually
went into Ukraine because of the way Biden handled Afghanistan.
He saw by dealing with that and thought, oh man,
there's no way he can stop us.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Look at that.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
You're going to tell me that that's not worthy of
discussion as a political story.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
It's funny. The media must have skimmed the book so
quickly they missed that part. Right. You cannot have enough
contempt for the dishonesty the mainstream media. You'd have to
work on it all day long and do I don't know,
exercises or something in other words, that trick it up.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
In other words, the Trump claimed that he would have
never done that if I was in office is quite
possibly true.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
I think it is. I've always thought that I think
a lot of Trump's bluster is bull crap, but that
I agreed with Oh speaking of Russia and explosive nuggets,
Western security officials believe that two incendiary devices shipped via
DHL were part of a covert Russian operation that ultimately
aimed to start fires aboard cargo or passenger aircraft flying
(35:53):
to the US in Canada, part of Moscow's sabotage campaign
against Washington and its allies. Gold device is ignited in
Germany and England. What's your goal there? To start a
nuclear holocaust? You bring down a passenger plane and we
can trust to Russia. We're at war, aren't we? Uh yeah, yeah, yeah,
a warm war somewhere between cold and hot Man. Trump's
(36:17):
inheriting all this, and who knows how he's gonna handle it.
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