October 16, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- Judge Larry Goodman talks to Jack about... embalming?
- Airport PA systems hacked & Mamdani
- Mike Lyons talks to Jack!
- Mosquito virus, LA metro & food advice from the government
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Getty, and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So tomorrow is Bill and Hillary Clinton's fiftieth wedding anniversary.
Bill already made plans dinner, dancing, some passionate love making,
and then home to Hillary.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
There you go, how y'all doing.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Joe is doing a skin cancer thing, which he may
or may not talk about later because he'll be back
in a little bit. But he had run off to
the doctor. All of us of a certain age should
have gotten less sun when we were younger. Back in
the day, we used to lay out and get sunburned
every day, and you'd put baby oil on yourself to
accentuate the sun's rays to make them as awful as possible,
(01:05):
as opposed to putting sunscreen on you put on something
to make them worse. Like my kids, I think one
kid has had one sunburn, the other one has had zero.
I got a sunburn every two days from the age
of three until thirty five, and that's how you end
up getting a lot of sunscreen or sun cancer treatments
of the doctor. So Judge Larry. We've had on the
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show many times. Larry Goodman, who happens to be Katy Katie,
the Newslady's dad. Larry was a judge for a long time,
retired judge for the Spirit Court Alameda County in California,
That's where Oakland is retired in twenty seventeen. Judge Larry,
Welcome back to the Armstrong You Getty Show.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Hey, Jack, how you doing pretty good?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So I don't know if I wanted to bring this
up before we get to the other thing as I'm
going to talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You're a judge. You went to law school.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You went to University of San Francisco for law school,
and we were just talking to Tim Sanderfer about how
left law schools are across the country.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Do you have any thoughts on that.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Well, they've changed a lot since I went there. I
mean I still get magazines and stuff from the law
school I went to, and it doesn't look like the
same law school I went to. There's all these different
classes that really don't have anything to do with practicing
law or passing the bar. It's it's a lot more
left than it was when I went to went there
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back in the seventies.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
You mean like social justice sort of classes.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Social justice, equality, wrongful convictions. There's a lot of criminal
classes where they spend a lot of time attacking convictions
and criminal cases and stuff, and they write these false
confessions and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
So I'm trying to track your career path here before
we get to the fact that you were an embalmer,
which is a new news to us, and I want
to ask you about. So you got your bachelor's degree
at Stanford, which is very impressive.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
What did you get your bachelor's degree in?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Well, I started out as pre d but then there
was a thing called the pre med math class, so
I changed the political science. And so once you get
a degree in political science, you either teach political science
or you go to law school. So that was the
next choice. So I went to law school. I was
tired of being on the peninsula, so I applied to
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schools and cities like San Francisco and so forth and
got into the USF.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Okay, that's a very promising, fantastic life path. How did
you end up dressing dead bodies?
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Then?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Where did this occur in your arc?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Well, there was a company in our hometown called Chapel
of Valley Valley Ambulance and back in those days bent
in the rural areas, often funeral homes had ambulances. We
had the low top Cadillac ambulances. And I actually started
out as an ambulance attendant and then became an EMT.
But our boss was a licensed bomber, but he was
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too cheap to hire a bunch of other licensed bombers.
And under California law back then, you could apprentice under
a licensed to bomber. So I was an apprentice and bomber.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So we are finding out, Judge Larry, that you were
an unlicensed en bomber.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Was I was apprentice? Yeah? I was an apprentice obomber
under his license.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, oh boy?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
And uh so, so at what point did your boss
tell you, hey, here's a new job duty for you.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I need you to go drain the fluids out of
that stiff.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Well, it just it was, it was everybody just kind
of was involved. There was only certain people that could
go in what we call the prep room. And he
one day he said, hey, you know, we don't have
enough people to do all this. Would you be willing
to be an apprentice under my license, and I had
been in the prep room with other E bombers helping
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them out, and I said, sure, why not I can?
I think I kind of understand it, and I unders
what we're doing, and we at that point we had
a it was during the Vietnam War, and we had
the contract with Oaknoll Naval Hospitals, so we had a
lot of work.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Okay, but still you're a political science guy. At some
point you were in a room the first time with
a dead body getting cut up.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Wasn't that quite the experience.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
It was when you're eighteen years old? Nineteen years old?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, it was, Well does everybody have the stomach for it?
Or did have the people quit? Or what I mean?
I just I don't know if I could do that.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
We had people that wouldn't go near the prep room. Well,
I kind of came. My dad was a surgeon, my
mom was a nurse, which is why I out was
pre med before I plucked the math courses, and so
I was not unfamiliar with hospitals and hearing stories about
things my dad we talked about taking people's gallbladders out
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at the dinner table.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Think oh, okay, okay, so you're a little more prepared
for it than I would have been.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Prepared for that kind of thing. But yeah, it's shocking
and sometimes, I mean I had to actually prepare the
body of a person that I went to high school with.
So there are moments, yeah, but the part purpose of
the procedures from bombing, you can tick up pretty easily
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if you're working with somebody that knows what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Okay, so after you get their fluids out and you
fill them full of formaldehyde or whatever the heck you
put in there to preserve them, then you got to
dress them.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, there's depending on the status of the funeral and
in the shape of the body. But yeah, my first
job before I was even apprentice, was the low man
on a tonem pole has to go down and dress
the body after it's embombed. And there are techniques to that,
like the shirt. If you have a dress shirt, you
have to cut the shirt up the back because then
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you tuck looks more fitting, and you put socks on them,
and you put the pants on and all that and
it makes it.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I just I still don't understand the process of going
from whatever you were doing before too. I needed to
go downstairs and dress some dead bodies, not just everybody says.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Okay, well, if you want to keep your job at
Chapel of Valley Valley Ambulance, you do kings say yeah, okay,
I'm on it. Although the first time I did it
was when I had the experience with the moving feet,
which was kind of the person that had been bombed
with their legs crossed, and once they're in bombed, they
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kind of get rigid in that position. So I went
down and put the socks. I uncrossed the seat and
put the socks on the seat, and I went up
to put the shirt on, and I was starting to
sew the collar behind, so my head's right down by
the person's head, sewing the collar together, and the guy's
feet crossed again.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh my god, and then you and then you soiled
your pants and screamed like a little girl.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And then what happened?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
I told you. I crossed them again and went back,
and then he crossed his late feet again, and that's
when I went, I'm out of here. And I went
back upstairs, and I said, I'm not going back down
there by myself. Somebody has to be downed with me,
because this is what's happening, and everybody else knew why
it was happening, and everybody got a big laugh out
of it. And that was the way I got indoctrinated.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
The hilarious.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Hey, the new guy just got scared because the dead
bodies are moving around.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Joke that happens. Okay, Well I explained the whole situation.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
It's just when Katie brought that up the other day
that you used to do this, I thought.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
What.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
From nineteen let's see, sixty eight to seventy four.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
It was my summer job. And then i'd come home
on weekends. You know, when you're gotta study. Sitting in
room waiting for the ambulance calls to come, you can
get a lot of studying done. So I'd take all
my stuff and come over and earn some money. I
even write an ambulance and doing my studying for law
school and stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I need to tell my kids about that. This is
the sort of job you could be doing. Judge Larry,
thanks for your time today. Appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
You're no problem, Jack. Take care.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
That's quite the family arc you got there, Katie. So
your dad was a lawyer and went to Stanford. His
dad was a doctor. You ended up on the Armstrong
in Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I did I did aim high? No, you know.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
And also so my grandfather being a surgeon, he was
in World War Two and was in the Army and
he was captured by the Japanese and held as a
prisoner of war for forty two months.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
And because he was a surgeon, they would have him
perform all of the medical stuff on the Japanese soldiers.
He wrote a whole book and everything about it. It's
it's amazing. And then you know, dad went into I'll
never forget One time my dad was driving me home
from piano lessons and there was a car accident on
the road that we had to take to get home.
And so, of course, what do you do there's a
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car accident, You pull over and help.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
So my dad gets out and he comes back.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
He's just got blood all over the place, and he's like,
all right, hey, wipes it off.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Paramedics are on the way.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
He's he's gonna be all right, gets in the car
we took off.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Oh my god, it's just it's just a yeah, the
hole you turn around and they cross their legs.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Thing that would freak me out. Yeah, ghosts or anything
like that.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
But I've been around a dead he isn't dead yet.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, this is it. Hey, this one's kicking his legs
a little. I think he's got a couple of good
years left in him. Oh my god, what are we
doing here? All right? Well, that's a good story.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
We are going to find out from Mike Lyons, our
favorite military analyst. Tomahawk missiles. We're gonna give him to Ukraine.
According to Trump? What do those do? What's that all about?
We'll get to that later this hour, among other things.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Stay here long, friend, hearing Trump Turkish hacker Cyberus one.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Was here telegrams.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Okay, so that is from a handful of airports yesterday
or four airports across the country in which somebody hacked
into them and made the announcement that, uh well it
said f Benjamin Yahoo and Donald Trump and free, free Palestine.
Somebody was able to hack in t airports spread across
the United States and make those announcements and put up
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on the screen on the televisions that uh same message.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And to me.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
The big story is why are our airports so vulnerable
to amateur hackers? I assume these were not you know,
it's not like is the Chinese government or something being
able to pull this off.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So yeah, and I like the point you made earlier.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
It is like, what if that announcement had said all
flights were canceled or something that would have created chaos.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, exactly at the same time time that cell phones
get turned off, at the same time that a whole
bunch of other things. This is getting back to Sunday
Night sixty minutes story about China hacking into water treatment
plants all across the country.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Anyway, we got to get better at that, no doubt
about it.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Do we know which clip is, Mom dommi last they
did a little interview yesterday. Mom Donnie, he's the guy
that's going to get end up Mayor that's the eighty
three Michael, Okay, do.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
You believe that Hamas should lay down their weapons and
leave the leadership in Gaza?
Speaker 8 (12:28):
I believe that any future here in New York City
is one that we have to make sure that's affordable
for all, and as it pertains to Israel and Palestine,
that we have to ensure that there is peace and
that is the future that we have to fight for.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
But you won't say that Hamas should lay down their
arms and give up leadership in Gaza.
Speaker 8 (12:43):
I don't really have opinions about the future of Hamas
and Israel beyond the question of justice and safety.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
That is the guy that's going to be mayor of
New York refusing to say that Hamas should lay down
their arms, even though that's the peace agreement that is
being heralded as a triumph by everyone in the world,
including Barack Obama and Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton and
Kamala Harrison. Everybody saying is a good idea, But the
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guy is running for mayor New York is too far
out there and too much of a Jew hater to
even say that. One of the reasons I bring that
up is they're having their debate tonight there in New
York City, and he'll be on stage with the criminal
ancient groper Andrew Cuomo and that dude who wears the
beret all the time.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
We have to be kind of a New Yorker to
be into his story.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
But so that debate almost guaranteed we'll have some highlights
from it that will be playing tomorrow on The Armstrong
and Getty Show. It wasn't another couple of things that
I wanted to get to with headlines. We're going to
talk to Mike Lines at the bottom of the hour
about Tomahawk missiles going to Ukraine. Perhaps the Wall Street
Journal editorial board has got a piece today that says
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Trump's Gaza lessons for Ukraine. Putin won't negotiate until he
pays a higher price for waging war there, point being
that the reason both sides came to the table in
Israel with Hamas is the amount of pressure that was
put on both sides and the kinetic action that's the
fancy words they use for shooting people and blowing things up,
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like Israel going after Hamas leadership there in Katar, and
Trump saying strong things against Benjamin nettan Yahoo in the
Wall Street Journal says that Joe Biden or Joe Biden
good Lord, that Donald Trump needs to do the same
thing with the Ukraine Russia conflict that he did with
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the Middle East. And they're a little confused there at
the editorial board at the Wall Street Journal as to
why he has not applied that sort of pressure to
Putin that he did to Benjamin Nett Yahoo for instance.
To that point, he mentioned the other day Tomahawk missiles
going to Ukraine, which would be able to I think
they can reach like twelve hundred and fifteen hundred miles
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into Russia. Would be a whole new level of weaponry
that we give Ukraine. And President Zelensky's going to be
in the Oval Office talking to Donald Trump tomorrow, so
we're gonna talk to Mike Lyons coming up about the
reality on the ground military wise of what that would mean.
So look forward to having that conversation and that that
could end up being the focus kind of like Middle
East was for the last however many weeks, Ukraine Russia
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could end up being the focus here pretty soon. A
couple other things that I wanted to hit.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Where is this so many different disturbing news stories out there.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Oh, we were talking the other day about the AI
bubble and went through it last week. It's pretty obvious
if somebody points it out to you, the way that,
for instance, Sam Altman's Chat GPT is buying billions of
dollars worth of high speed computer chips from one company
that then is investing billions of dollars in Chat GPT,
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or the same as happening with groc and Apple and
video and all the different companies, and there is some
belief that it's just kind of a circle thing, I
won't use an awful term, but kind of a circular
investment thing that's going on.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And then it's an AI bubble.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Well, the Financial Times has an article out today the
AI bubble is a bigger global economic threat than US tariffs.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
They're saying, Yeah, the whole China United.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
States trade war thing is scary, but not as scary
as this AI bubble that's going to burst at some point.
So that's two articles into major publications by smart people
in one week that I've seen calling the AI thing
and the stock market rise a bubble.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
So keep your eye on that and invest accordingly. People
can and do lose money. I will remind you of that.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And then a dumb story. Britney Spears is upset that
she has not seen her sons. She has seen her son,
one of her sons, a total of forty five minutes
in five years. Why do you suppose that is crazy?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Mom?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
You think maybe your kid doesn't want to go visit
mom when she's standing in the kitchen juggling knives to
disco song with no shirt on.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Well, apparently dad said she did coke while she was
pregnant too, So on my.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Real learn of it, I didn't know that. That's part
of his new book. We'll have to talk about that later.
We've got Mike Lions coming up next.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Stay tuned, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
No reason for the US military to get involved in
gos No, I don't see that.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
No.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I think we're going to handle it very well.
Speaker 9 (17:26):
We'll be helping Israel, but we have other countries that
are now you know, we signed many, many countries signed,
and many of those countries relatively are very strong military powers.
And Hamas has no support. See Hamas had the support
of RAN and now our ancest don't get us involved.
The last time they got them involved didn't work out
too well.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
So they used to have the support of RAN.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Okay, So we got a couple of different conflicts to
talk about with Mike Lions, who I generally if something's
going on militarily, I go to his Twitter feed to
see what Mike Lyons is saying. It's at mj as
in Major Mike Lyons. Mike, welcome back to the Armstrong
and Getty Show.
Speaker 10 (18:07):
Hey Jack, thanks for having me back.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
So, first of all, we're asking the question what Trump
said the other day, Hamas needs to disarm or we
will disarm him.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Who is we?
Speaker 10 (18:17):
Yeah, I think he means Israel number one. And then
also this these Arab nations. I think Trump has implied
that this security group that would be part of any
important ceasefire operation there. And this is a coerced cease fire.
This is not anything, you know, any kind of peace
plans just yet, because Hamas has not given up, the
ministries have not given up their weapons. But he's envisioning
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a combined Arab and Israeli let's say, military that takes
care of things like this, not blue helmet's not United nations,
not countries, people coming from different countries all over the world.
So I think that's what he means by we. The
United States provides intelligence and net support, but that's about it.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Well, since you've had experience in the Middle East, some
of the dead end are you know that we're like
with al Kaeder or Isis or whatever, and Hamas is
the same sort of people. They don't easily give up, do.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
They No, And it's you know, they're not necessarily exhausted
just yet. I don't think I'm not quite sure all
the tunnel systems have been destroyed yet, either inside Gaza
and the like. They still have another generation to go.
This is a twenty year problem set that once we
begin the process of this of peace, let's say, it's
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still not going to be solved at least for another
twenty years because of this generation, this uprising of youth
that comes behind it. Usually they fight to the death.
They fight too, they consider this as part of their culture.
So we're at the very beginning of the very beginning
of what is still a tenuous process of whether this.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Is going to work or not.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
So you mentioned this was a coerced deal. It wasn't
like both sides came together and said let's lay down
our arms. So Homas was forced into this. And that's
why the Wall Street Journal today their editorial page is
saying Trump needs to do the same thing with Russia
that he did between Netanyahu and Hamas. And some of
the talk has been about giving Ukraine Tomahawk missiles. I
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know Zelensky's going to be in DC tomorrow to meet
with Trump. What are and that keeps getting thrown around
tomahawk missiles as if we're all military experts and know
what that means. What are Tomahawk missiles and what sort
of capability would that be?
Speaker 10 (20:21):
Great? Great question, great discussion point. The Tomahawk cruise missile
is the go to weapon now that we see launched
from destroyers and submarines. It's been perfected, started back from
the Gulf War one and when it was first used,
and it's really the go to weapon system right now
with for Navy and really only Navy platforms. And it's
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not an easy task to all of a sudden give
Tomahawk cruise missiles to the Ukrainians because there's no land
based firing system from them. If you notice they're called
vertical launchers v launchers. They have to launch as a rocket,
they go up straight in the air and then they
get propels, then they get they get the you know,
to go into their target from there. So it's not
(21:05):
an easy solution. Now, however, they would provide deep strike
capability for Ukraine. Should there be this land based, land
based solution to that. The Raytheon says that they have.
We haven't, we haven't seen that, but it would it
would provide much deeper strikes into Russia that they would
have to uh, defend against and it would allow Ukraine
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this increased capability. Is it a silver bullet? No, I
don't think so, and I think nothing is. I think
the only real silver bullet to get Russia to stop
militarily is if we poured three hundred tanks and six
hundred Bradley fighting vehicles and Tomahawk Crewis missiles and seven
Patriot batteries. I mean, if they if we just poured
this conventional weapon, because that's really only a thing that
Russia can not defend against right now into Ukraine, that
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might be the leverage that gets in the stop.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Interesting, Well, the Tomahawk missiles alone, Will that be enough
to get Putin's attention at all?
Speaker 10 (22:01):
No, but they're saying I don't think it is. But
they are saying that it's a red line for them,
and it would be somewhat politically, let's say, consequential, because
it would you know, signal this increased capability. But again
there's constraints as to whether or not a handful of
anything is really what it comes down to. It would
would be would work, and again you would still have
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to combine it with intelligence on the battlefield, and you
have battle damage assessment, all the other things. It's not
it's just not that simple of saying I'm just going
for Tomawk cruise musciles that this problem set. I think
Russia is saying that would be from their perspective, a
red line. Now that's their leverage back. Whether or not
we do it or not remains to be seen.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
So the drone strikes and rocket strikes continue from Russia
into Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
What is the theory on that.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
We've talked about this some So I just assume that
you keep sending these hundreds and hundreds of drones every
other night and at some point you hope you exist
lost Ukraine's defenses.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Is that it? Right?
Speaker 10 (23:05):
Yeah, that's kind of it. And you know the difference
between this and Gaza is that let's say the Hamas
is exhausted on their side, Israel if not, but Hamas is,
so in order to get any kind of deal in
Ukraine that that would be more effective. Let's say that
wouldn't be this coercies fires if that both sides were exhausted.
So we looked at right now and don't see that
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happening on the Russian side, we can say that they're
losing they're losing because they're not winning, because they should
have won this in some ways by now. But Ukraine keeps,
you know, staying in the fight because of their drone technology.
It gets better every month they add more capability. They
are increasing their their amount of drones that they're bringing
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to the battlefield. They're making them smarter all the time.
They're giving them down to the to the squad unit level,
so they've got much more intelligence that they're gathering. You
combine that with the United States intelligent collection capability. They
are at least holding their own right now. But until
both sides become exhausted, when that's when you can successfully
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say we'll have a cease fire here and we can
move forward with some kind of negotiation. But we're still
not there yet.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Well, Russia had their biggest call up in three years
the other day, right, so they must to be running
out of guys.
Speaker 10 (24:22):
Well, no, this is more mobilization, and they're continue to
call up. They still have four times the population. They
can still withdraw from that pool, which is again historically,
countries that that outman the other country, you know, from
a historical perspective, usually win these wars of attrition because
that's where this completely is. I mean it's inch by
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inch still down on the ground. World War one type
of technology, that's what we've talked about, World War One
type tactics that are taking place in trenches. The land
has been completely destroyed in that in that part of Ukraine,
in that southern and eastern portion, in the Dombats region.
So it's it's the spoils of war or made that
that almost uninhabitable at this point. But Russia can still
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throw more people at this.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
That's interesting stuff. One other topic I wanted to hit
you with before we let you go. So you have
said many things over the years that have stuck in
my mind, and one.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Of them is, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I don't know how long ago it was that you
thought us in China would be swapping ordinance at some.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Point in the next few years. Do you still believe
that that's a that's the case.
Speaker 10 (25:29):
Well, now that this president has shown the kind of
leverage in negotiating this peace settlement, he's become teddy Roosevelt
speaks soft of to carry a big stick, And I
think that the way this has gone down, I think
China is much more in a box. I think China
now is much more constrained. I think had we used
(25:50):
previous foreign policy negotiation tactics with Hamas right now that
Trump wasn't involved, look a couple of you know, New
York City real estate developers, you know, make this deal
twenty point deal, which you know still.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Has a lot to go.
Speaker 10 (26:03):
But the bottom line is, I think China is now
more deterred than ever and I'm not sure that that's
the case. So at least in the short term, I
don't see anything with anything happening because of the way
this situation has evolved. Israel takes out the proxy forces
in the United States, takes care of the big player
in the rain and in the wrong situation, and now
(26:23):
Hamas is forced again coerced into making the ceasefire. I
think China now looks at the United States and says,
we cannot They're not predictable, that if we decide to
go after something, we can't tell what specifically we're going
to happen. So we've restored that level of deterrence that
we haven't seen since Ronald Reagan in the eighties, and
so I think I think that's a good thing from
a security perspective.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
For the United States.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
That's really interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
And you know, I don't want to drag you into politics,
but I would have to assume that they would not
have felt that way if Kamala Harrison. Yeah, but wow,
it's something to be alive at this point in history,
the way things are unfolding so quickly on so many
different spots.
Speaker 10 (27:05):
Yeah, I know for sure, thinking about where I was,
you know, thirty four years ago, I never thought the
Berlin Wall would fall. I never thought we would have
Gulf War One. Whoever thought any of those things would
happen Here we are now. I never thought Russia that
that lose their empire as well. And now there's no
question for the second half of the of the twentieth
you know, twenty first centuries is going to be this
(27:26):
fight for you know, global dominance in the United States
is still a player. I mean, we're you know, we're
two and zero in world wars, and I'd like to
think we're going to keep that up it should something
happen in the future.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
What did you think of Hegzet's speech to the generals
the other day.
Speaker 10 (27:42):
I'm of the ILK said it was a good thing
that they had that in person, and you know, people
who are losing their minds for reasons because they don't
like Pete Hegseth. But I mean I think that you know,
no general officer got out of their desk, got on
a plane, went to that meeting and got back, you know,
went went back home, right, They did other things, They
saw their family, they net work. So I just think
meeting in person is always good. I thought his message
(28:04):
was sound. I think it's too bad that the military
has gotten to the point where the standards have been lowered,
and a lot of it just had to do with
the politics of frankly, starting with Obama and Biden, you know,
not really enforcing anything. And I'm not saying that's Republicans
are not necessarily standard bearers for the military either, but
but there's been there was people that left the military
(28:25):
because of what was going on in the military into
those democratic administrations, and I think it's always good to reset.
The pendulum swings, and the pendulum has swung right now.
Everybody's clear what the intent is. They're clear at the
military academy, they're clear in the active duty units. Pete
hexapt like them, love him, hate him. He's crystal clear
about what he wants the military to look like at point.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
So good, you know, good conversation today, Mike. Really appreciate
your time, Mike Lyons. You can follow them at m
A G m Aj Mike Lyons on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Thanks Mike, Thanks Jact, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
All those topics are interesting to me. We'll talk more
about that later. And Joe is returning for Hour four.
Maybe I'll bring that up then. So he thinks China
is deterred now by Trump and the you know, the
whatever they call it, the crazy man theory that you
don't know what he's going to do.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Trump's only president for three more years though. Anyway, that's
interesting stuff. Got a lot of sports going on right now.
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the topics that I want to make sure I jammed
in this hour. Oh, we got this funny thing about
a dietitian from the future talking to an eighties family
about their breakfast, and I think this will resonate in
(30:45):
a serious way about guidance the government gives us on
what to eat and what not to eat, among other things.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Coming up stay here.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
They're rare mosquito born virus detected just outside New York
City Health of We'll say it's the first local transmission
of this type in six years. Here the patient from
Nasau County, Long Island. The chicken gunya virus is most
common in the tropics. Symptoms include joint pain and fever.
Most patients do recover within a week. Office will still
say the risk of the public is low.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
That's just what we needed, was another new virus thingy
being spread around by mosquitos to think about. Thank you
very much, David Muir. I'm not worried about that. But
I only play that because you know, five years ago
whenever it was the first case of this new virus hit,
and that changed all our lives forever.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
God, I don't want another one of those in my lifetime.
I wanted to mention this while we're still on the
mighty KABC in Los Angeles today. The way I phrased that,
it sounded like we're not going to be on there anymore.
We are going to be on there, it's just that
the show's almost over for the day, is what I meant.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Anyway, It's a great article I.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Was reading in the I don't know where it was,
But does the La Metro system happen to be a
waste of time and money? They're doing a new study
or this one group is doing a new study trying
to figure out about the billions and billions of dollars
the taxpayers have spent on the Los Angeles Metro, one
of the greatest cities in the world, and this system
(32:15):
that almost nobody rides because it's dirty and unsafe, like
a lot of mass transit all across America.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
It's amazing that we put up with that.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Whatever city you're in, I'd be shocked if your experience
is not different than the cities I've been in visiting
or lived in, where your bus is almost always empty,
the metro train is almost always empty. Whatever you ride,
it's almost always empty. And you spend all this money
and people don't use them. Why do we put up
(32:47):
with this?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I want to get bogged down on that because I
want to get to this funny thing? Is it where
matter where it came from, it came from. Funny or die.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Once you set it up. Katie because I don't want
to ruin the job. Okay.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
So it's a family that's it's from like the eighties
or the seventies, and they're sitting around and they're about
to enjoy a breakfast of eggs, steak, and toast.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Who are you?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
What are you doing in our house? I'm from the future.
Speaker 10 (33:13):
I'm here to warn you.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Don't eat that food. Why not the eggs. They're full
of cholesterol.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
What eating even just one egg can dramatically increase your
chance of heart attack.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Don't eat eggs. Oh my god, thank you, you're welcome, godspeed. Well,
I guess I better take those eggs. What you're bad?
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Yeah, we were wrong about the eggs. Hell, it turns
out there's two types of cholesterol. There's good cholesterol and
bad cholesterol, and eggs actually have both. But just don't
eat the egg yolks, so stick with the egg whites.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yes, thank you, God speed. I see where this is going.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Wait, we were wrong about the eggs again.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
Yeah, okay, So it turns out that the amount of
cholesterol in a food doesn't actually affect how much cholesterol
ends up in your blood. The eggs are probably fine.
In fact, we sort of don't even know what cholesterol is.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
What does the steak? You can't eat the steak we
were all.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
About the steak with.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
The pas man was not meant to eat bread, was
not meant to eat breash. Turns out it's genetic.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Doesn't matter whether you exercise or what Shet'm sorry I.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Ruined your meal. That's pretty good. Oh, that is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
I got into that conversation with somebody just the other
day who's roughly my age. You're too young for this, Katie.
But like when we were kids, and this is crazy.
Where I grew up. I grew up in rural Wisconsin,
the dairy state, where people had been eating bacon, eggs,
and you know, cheese and butter for their entire lives.
And then all of a sudden came a study from
the government that said eggs have cholesterol, and bacon his
(35:03):
bed for in all these different things. And the thing
to eat is these cereals that are coming to plastic sack.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yes, that's in the dairy state where everything was made
right there, we were eating cereal out of a sack
because my having margarine instead of butter. Everybody that should
be brought up on a daily basis. Anytime the government
ever tells you to do anything with your health. Aren't
you the same people that told me to never eat
butter and only eat margarine. Then a couple of decades later,
(35:33):
you declared trans fat, which is what margarine in is.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
It's a tub of trans fat.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Is literally the worst thing you can possibly put in
your body.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Right, and eat this cereal that's got twenty three grams
of sugar per bite.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Right, which we now know that study was paid for
by Kellogg's I think or the other company, one of
the big cereal companies paid for the study. But man,
that whole margarine butter thing be the It should be
the end of any argument about the government telling us
what to eat. Yeah, that's absolutely amazing. Wait, I'm back
what we were wrong?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
We were wrong? Turns out I don't know.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
What cholesterol is.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
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So tomorrow is Bill and Hillary Clinton's fiftieth wedding anniversary.
Bill already made plans dinner, dancing, some passionate love making,
and then home to Hillary.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
There you go, how y'all doing.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Joe is doing a skin cancer thing, which he may
or may not talk about later because he'll be back
in a little bit. But he had run off to
the doctor. All of us of a certain age should
have gotten less sun when we were younger. Back in
the day, we used to lay out and get sunburned
every day, and you'd put baby oil on yourself to
accentuate the sun's rays to make them as awful as possible,
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as opposed to putting sunscreen on you put on something
to make them worse. Like my kids, I think one
kid has had one sunburn, the other one has had zero.
I got a sunburn every two days from the age
of three until thirty five, and that's how you end
up getting a lot of sunscreen or sun cancer treatments
of the doctor. So Judge Larry. We've had on the
(01:28):
show many times. Larry Goodman, who happens to be Katy Katie,
the Newslady's dad. Larry was a judge for a long time,
retired judge for the Spirit Court Alameda County in California,
That's where Oakland is retired in twenty seventeen. Judge Larry,
Welcome back to the Armstrong You Getty Show.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Hey, Jack, how you doing pretty good?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So I don't know if I wanted to bring this
up before we get to the other thing as I'm
going to talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
You're a judge. You went to law school.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You went to University of San Francisco for law school,
and we were just talking to Tim Sanderfer about how
left law schools are across the country.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Do you have any thoughts on that.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Well, they've changed a lot since I went there. I
mean I still get magazines and stuff from the law
school I went to, and it doesn't look like the
same law school I went to. There's all these different
classes that really don't have anything to do with practicing
law or passing the bar. It's it's a lot more
left than it was when I went to went there
(02:24):
back in the seventies.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
You mean like social justice sort of classes.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Social justice, equality, wrongful convictions. There's a lot of criminal
classes where they spend a lot of time attacking convictions
and criminal cases and stuff, and they write these false
confessions and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
So I'm trying to track your career path here before
we get to the fact that you were an embalmer,
which is a new news to us, and I want
to ask you about. So you got your bachelor's degree
at Stanford, which is very impressive.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
What did you get your bachelor's degree in?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Well, I started out as pre d but then there
was a thing called the pre med math class, so
I changed the political science. And so once you get
a degree in political science, you either teach political science
or you go to law school. So that was the
next choice. So I went to law school. I was
tired of being on the peninsula, so I applied to
(03:21):
schools and cities like San Francisco and so forth and
got into the USF.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Okay, that's a very promising, fantastic life path. How did
you end up dressing dead bodies?
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Then?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Where did this occur in your arc?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Well, there was a company in our hometown called Chapel
of Valley Valley Ambulance and back in those days bent
in the rural areas, often funeral homes had ambulances. We
had the low top Cadillac ambulances. And I actually started
out as an ambulance attendant and then became an EMT.
But our boss was a licensed bomber, but he was
(03:57):
too cheap to hire a bunch of other licensed bombers.
And under California law back then, you could apprentice under
a licensed to bomber. So I was an apprentice and bomber.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So we are finding out, Judge Larry, that you were
an unlicensed en bomber.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Was I was apprentice? Yeah? I was an apprentice obomber
under his license.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, oh boy?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
And uh so, so at what point did your boss
tell you, hey, here's a new job duty for you.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I need you to go drain the fluids out of
that stiff.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Well, it just it was, it was everybody just kind
of was involved. There was only certain people that could
go in what we call the prep room. And he
one day he said, hey, you know, we don't have
enough people to do all this. Would you be willing
to be an apprentice under my license, and I had
been in the prep room with other E bombers helping
(04:55):
them out, and I said, sure, why not I can?
I think I kind of understand it, and I unders
what we're doing, and we at that point we had
a it was during the Vietnam War, and we had
the contract with Oaknoll Naval Hospitals, so we had a
lot of work.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Okay, but still you're a political science guy. At some
point you were in a room the first time with
a dead body getting cut up.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Wasn't that quite the experience.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
It was when you're eighteen years old? Nineteen years old?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, it was, Well does everybody have the stomach for it?
Or did have the people quit? Or what I mean?
I just I don't know if I could do that.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
We had people that wouldn't go near the prep room. Well,
I kind of came. My dad was a surgeon, my
mom was a nurse, which is why I out was
pre med before I plucked the math courses, and so
I was not unfamiliar with hospitals and hearing stories about
things my dad we talked about taking people's gallbladders out
(05:55):
at the dinner table.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Think oh, okay, okay, so you're a little more prepared
for it than I would have been.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Prepared for that kind of thing. But yeah, it's shocking
and sometimes, I mean I had to actually prepare the
body of a person that I went to high school with.
So there are moments, yeah, but the part purpose of
the procedures from bombing, you can tick up pretty easily
(06:21):
if you're working with somebody that knows what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Okay, so after you get their fluids out and you
fill them full of formaldehyde or whatever the heck you
put in there to preserve them, then you got to
dress them.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, there's depending on the status of the funeral and
in the shape of the body. But yeah, my first
job before I was even apprentice, was the low man
on a tonem pole has to go down and dress
the body after it's embombed. And there are techniques to that,
like the shirt. If you have a dress shirt, you
have to cut the shirt up the back because then
(06:53):
you tuck looks more fitting, and you put socks on them,
and you put the pants on and all that and
it makes it.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I just I still don't understand the process of going
from whatever you were doing before too. I needed to
go downstairs and dress some dead bodies, not just everybody says.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Okay, well, if you want to keep your job at
Chapel of Valley Valley Ambulance, you do kings say yeah, okay,
I'm on it. Although the first time I did it
was when I had the experience with the moving feet,
which was kind of the person that had been bombed
with their legs crossed, and once they're in bombed, they
(07:31):
kind of get rigid in that position. So I went
down and put the socks. I uncrossed the seat and
put the socks on the seat, and I went up
to put the shirt on, and I was starting to
sew the collar behind, so my head's right down by
the person's head, sewing the collar together, and the guy's
feet crossed again.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh my god, and then you and then you soiled
your pants and screamed like a little girl.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And then what happened?
Speaker 4 (07:59):
I told you. I crossed them again and went back,
and then he crossed his late feet again, and that's
when I went, I'm out of here. And I went
back upstairs, and I said, I'm not going back down
there by myself. Somebody has to be downed with me,
because this is what's happening, and everybody else knew why
it was happening, and everybody got a big laugh out
of it. And that was the way I got indoctrinated.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
The hilarious.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Hey, the new guy just got scared because the dead
bodies are moving around.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Joke that happens. Okay, Well I explained the whole situation.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
It's just when Katie brought that up the other day
that you used to do this, I thought.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
What.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
From nineteen let's see, sixty eight to seventy four.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
It was my summer job. And then i'd come home
on weekends. You know, when you're gotta study. Sitting in
room waiting for the ambulance calls to come, you can
get a lot of studying done. So I'd take all
my stuff and come over and earn some money. I
even write an ambulance and doing my studying for law
school and stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I need to tell my kids about that. This is
the sort of job you could be doing. Judge Larry,
thanks for your time today. Appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
You're no problem, Jack. Take care.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
That's quite the family arc you got there, Katie. So
your dad was a lawyer and went to Stanford. His
dad was a doctor. You ended up on the Armstrong
in Getty Show.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I did I did aim high? No, you know.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
And also so my grandfather being a surgeon, he was
in World War Two and was in the Army and
he was captured by the Japanese and held as a
prisoner of war for forty two months.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
And because he was a surgeon, they would have him
perform all of the medical stuff on the Japanese soldiers.
He wrote a whole book and everything about it. It's
it's amazing. And then you know, dad went into I'll
never forget One time my dad was driving me home
from piano lessons and there was a car accident on
the road that we had to take to get home.
And so, of course, what do you do there's a
(10:00):
car accident, You pull over and help.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
So my dad gets out and he comes back.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
He's just got blood all over the place, and he's like,
all right, hey, wipes it off.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Paramedics are on the way.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
He's he's gonna be all right, gets in the car
we took off.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Oh my god, it's just it's just a yeah, the
hole you turn around and they cross their legs.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Thing that would freak me out. Yeah, ghosts or anything
like that.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
But I've been around a dead he isn't dead yet.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, this is it. Hey, this one's kicking his legs
a little. I think he's got a couple of good
years left in him. Oh my god, what are we
doing here? All right? Well, that's a good story.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
We are going to find out from Mike Lyons, our
favorite military analyst. Tomahawk missiles. We're gonna give him to Ukraine.
According to Trump? What do those do? What's that all about?
We'll get to that later this hour, among other things.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Stay here long, friend, hearing Trump Turkish hacker Cyberus one.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Was here telegrams.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Okay, so that is from a handful of airports yesterday
or four airports across the country in which somebody hacked
into them and made the announcement that, uh well it
said f Benjamin Yahoo and Donald Trump and free, free Palestine.
Somebody was able to hack in t airports spread across
the United States and make those announcements and put up
(11:32):
on the screen on the televisions that uh same message.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And to me.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
The big story is why are our airports so vulnerable
to amateur hackers? I assume these were not you know,
it's not like is the Chinese government or something being
able to pull this off.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So yeah, and I like the point you made earlier.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
It is like, what if that announcement had said all
flights were canceled or something that would have created chaos.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, exactly at the same time time that cell phones
get turned off, at the same time that a whole
bunch of other things. This is getting back to Sunday
Night sixty minutes story about China hacking into water treatment
plants all across the country.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Anyway, we got to get better at that, no doubt
about it.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Do we know which clip is, Mom dommi last they
did a little interview yesterday. Mom Donnie, he's the guy
that's going to get end up Mayor that's the eighty
three Michael, Okay, do.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
You believe that Hamas should lay down their weapons and
leave the leadership in Gaza?
Speaker 8 (12:28):
I believe that any future here in New York City
is one that we have to make sure that's affordable
for all, and as it pertains to Israel and Palestine,
that we have to ensure that there is peace and
that is the future that we have to fight for.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
But you won't say that Hamas should lay down their
arms and give up leadership in Gaza.
Speaker 8 (12:43):
I don't really have opinions about the future of Hamas
and Israel beyond the question of justice and safety.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
That is the guy that's going to be mayor of
New York refusing to say that Hamas should lay down
their arms, even though that's the peace agreement that is
being heralded as a triumph by everyone in the world,
including Barack Obama and Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton and
Kamala Harrison. Everybody saying is a good idea, But the
(13:10):
guy is running for mayor New York is too far
out there and too much of a Jew hater to
even say that. One of the reasons I bring that
up is they're having their debate tonight there in New
York City, and he'll be on stage with the criminal
ancient groper Andrew Cuomo and that dude who wears the
beret all the time.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
We have to be kind of a New Yorker to
be into his story.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
But so that debate almost guaranteed we'll have some highlights
from it that will be playing tomorrow on The Armstrong
and Getty Show. It wasn't another couple of things that
I wanted to get to with headlines. We're going to
talk to Mike Lines at the bottom of the hour
about Tomahawk missiles going to Ukraine. Perhaps the Wall Street
Journal editorial board has got a piece today that says
(13:53):
Trump's Gaza lessons for Ukraine. Putin won't negotiate until he
pays a higher price for waging war there, point being
that the reason both sides came to the table in
Israel with Hamas is the amount of pressure that was
put on both sides and the kinetic action that's the
fancy words they use for shooting people and blowing things up,
(14:16):
like Israel going after Hamas leadership there in Katar, and
Trump saying strong things against Benjamin nettan Yahoo in the
Wall Street Journal says that Joe Biden or Joe Biden
good Lord, that Donald Trump needs to do the same
thing with the Ukraine Russia conflict that he did with
(14:37):
the Middle East. And they're a little confused there at
the editorial board at the Wall Street Journal as to
why he has not applied that sort of pressure to
Putin that he did to Benjamin Nett Yahoo for instance.
To that point, he mentioned the other day Tomahawk missiles
going to Ukraine, which would be able to I think
they can reach like twelve hundred and fifteen hundred miles
(14:58):
into Russia. Would be a whole new level of weaponry
that we give Ukraine. And President Zelensky's going to be
in the Oval Office talking to Donald Trump tomorrow, so
we're gonna talk to Mike Lyons coming up about the
reality on the ground military wise of what that would mean.
So look forward to having that conversation and that that
could end up being the focus kind of like Middle
East was for the last however many weeks, Ukraine Russia
(15:20):
could end up being the focus here pretty soon. A
couple other things that I wanted to hit.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Where is this so many different disturbing news stories out there.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Oh, we were talking the other day about the AI
bubble and went through it last week. It's pretty obvious
if somebody points it out to you, the way that,
for instance, Sam Altman's Chat GPT is buying billions of
dollars worth of high speed computer chips from one company
that then is investing billions of dollars in Chat GPT,
(15:56):
or the same as happening with groc and Apple and
video and all the different companies, and there is some
belief that it's just kind of a circle thing, I
won't use an awful term, but kind of a circular
investment thing that's going on.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And then it's an AI bubble.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Well, the Financial Times has an article out today the
AI bubble is a bigger global economic threat than US tariffs.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
They're saying, Yeah, the whole China United.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
States trade war thing is scary, but not as scary
as this AI bubble that's going to burst at some point.
So that's two articles into major publications by smart people
in one week that I've seen calling the AI thing
and the stock market rise a bubble.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
So keep your eye on that and invest accordingly. People
can and do lose money. I will remind you of that.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And then a dumb story. Britney Spears is upset that
she has not seen her sons. She has seen her son,
one of her sons, a total of forty five minutes
in five years. Why do you suppose that is crazy?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Mom?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
You think maybe your kid doesn't want to go visit
mom when she's standing in the kitchen juggling knives to
disco song with no shirt on.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Well, apparently dad said she did coke while she was
pregnant too, So on my.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Real learn of it, I didn't know that. That's part
of his new book. We'll have to talk about that later.
We've got Mike Lions coming up next.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Stay tuned, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
No reason for the US military to get involved in
gos No, I don't see that.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
No.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I think we're going to handle it very well.
Speaker 9 (17:26):
We'll be helping Israel, but we have other countries that
are now you know, we signed many, many countries signed,
and many of those countries relatively are very strong military powers.
And Hamas has no support. See Hamas had the support
of RAN and now our ancest don't get us involved.
The last time they got them involved didn't work out
too well.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
So they used to have the support of RAN.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Okay, So we got a couple of different conflicts to
talk about with Mike Lions, who I generally if something's
going on militarily, I go to his Twitter feed to
see what Mike Lyons is saying. It's at mj as
in Major Mike Lyons. Mike, welcome back to the Armstrong
and Getty Show.
Speaker 10 (18:07):
Hey Jack, thanks for having me back.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
So, first of all, we're asking the question what Trump
said the other day, Hamas needs to disarm or we
will disarm him.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Who is we?
Speaker 10 (18:17):
Yeah, I think he means Israel number one. And then
also this these Arab nations. I think Trump has implied
that this security group that would be part of any
important ceasefire operation there. And this is a coerced cease fire.
This is not anything, you know, any kind of peace
plans just yet, because Hamas has not given up, the
ministries have not given up their weapons. But he's envisioning
(18:41):
a combined Arab and Israeli let's say, military that takes
care of things like this, not blue helmet's not United nations,
not countries, people coming from different countries all over the world.
So I think that's what he means by we. The
United States provides intelligence and net support, but that's about it.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Well, since you've had experience in the Middle East, some
of the dead end are you know that we're like
with al Kaeder or Isis or whatever, and Hamas is
the same sort of people. They don't easily give up, do.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
They No, And it's you know, they're not necessarily exhausted
just yet. I don't think I'm not quite sure all
the tunnel systems have been destroyed yet, either inside Gaza
and the like. They still have another generation to go.
This is a twenty year problem set that once we
begin the process of this of peace, let's say, it's
(19:26):
still not going to be solved at least for another
twenty years because of this generation, this uprising of youth
that comes behind it. Usually they fight to the death.
They fight too, they consider this as part of their culture.
So we're at the very beginning of the very beginning
of what is still a tenuous process of whether this.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Is going to work or not.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
So you mentioned this was a coerced deal. It wasn't
like both sides came together and said let's lay down
our arms. So Homas was forced into this. And that's
why the Wall Street Journal today their editorial page is
saying Trump needs to do the same thing with Russia
that he did between Netanyahu and Hamas. And some of
the talk has been about giving Ukraine Tomahawk missiles. I
(20:09):
know Zelensky's going to be in DC tomorrow to meet
with Trump. What are and that keeps getting thrown around
tomahawk missiles as if we're all military experts and know
what that means. What are Tomahawk missiles and what sort
of capability would that be?
Speaker 10 (20:21):
Great? Great question, great discussion point. The Tomahawk cruise missile
is the go to weapon now that we see launched
from destroyers and submarines. It's been perfected, started back from
the Gulf War one and when it was first used,
and it's really the go to weapon system right now
with for Navy and really only Navy platforms. And it's
(20:45):
not an easy task to all of a sudden give
Tomahawk cruise missiles to the Ukrainians because there's no land
based firing system from them. If you notice they're called
vertical launchers v launchers. They have to launch as a rocket,
they go up straight in the air and then they
get propels, then they get they get the you know,
to go into their target from there. So it's not
(21:05):
an easy solution. Now, however, they would provide deep strike
capability for Ukraine. Should there be this land based, land
based solution to that. The Raytheon says that they have.
We haven't, we haven't seen that, but it would it
would provide much deeper strikes into Russia that they would
have to uh, defend against and it would allow Ukraine
(21:28):
this increased capability. Is it a silver bullet? No, I
don't think so, and I think nothing is. I think
the only real silver bullet to get Russia to stop
militarily is if we poured three hundred tanks and six
hundred Bradley fighting vehicles and Tomahawk Crewis missiles and seven
Patriot batteries. I mean, if they if we just poured
this conventional weapon, because that's really only a thing that
Russia can not defend against right now into Ukraine, that
(21:51):
might be the leverage that gets in the stop.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Interesting, Well, the Tomahawk missiles alone, Will that be enough
to get Putin's attention at all?
Speaker 10 (22:01):
No, but they're saying I don't think it is. But
they are saying that it's a red line for them,
and it would be somewhat politically, let's say, consequential, because
it would you know, signal this increased capability. But again
there's constraints as to whether or not a handful of
anything is really what it comes down to. It would
would be would work, and again you would still have
(22:23):
to combine it with intelligence on the battlefield, and you
have battle damage assessment, all the other things. It's not
it's just not that simple of saying I'm just going
for Tomawk cruise musciles that this problem set. I think
Russia is saying that would be from their perspective, a
red line. Now that's their leverage back. Whether or not
we do it or not remains to be seen.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
So the drone strikes and rocket strikes continue from Russia
into Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
What is the theory on that.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
We've talked about this some So I just assume that
you keep sending these hundreds and hundreds of drones every
other night and at some point you hope you exist
lost Ukraine's defenses.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Is that it? Right?
Speaker 10 (23:05):
Yeah, that's kind of it. And you know the difference
between this and Gaza is that let's say the Hamas
is exhausted on their side, Israel if not, but Hamas is,
so in order to get any kind of deal in
Ukraine that that would be more effective. Let's say that
wouldn't be this coercies fires if that both sides were exhausted.
So we looked at right now and don't see that
(23:27):
happening on the Russian side, we can say that they're
losing they're losing because they're not winning, because they should
have won this in some ways by now. But Ukraine keeps,
you know, staying in the fight because of their drone technology.
It gets better every month they add more capability. They
are increasing their their amount of drones that they're bringing
(23:48):
to the battlefield. They're making them smarter all the time.
They're giving them down to the to the squad unit level,
so they've got much more intelligence that they're gathering. You
combine that with the United States intelligent collection capability. They
are at least holding their own right now. But until
both sides become exhausted, when that's when you can successfully
(24:09):
say we'll have a cease fire here and we can
move forward with some kind of negotiation. But we're still
not there yet.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Well, Russia had their biggest call up in three years
the other day, right, so they must to be running
out of guys.
Speaker 10 (24:22):
Well, no, this is more mobilization, and they're continue to
call up. They still have four times the population. They
can still withdraw from that pool, which is again historically,
countries that that outman the other country, you know, from
a historical perspective, usually win these wars of attrition because
that's where this completely is. I mean it's inch by
(24:42):
inch still down on the ground. World War one type
of technology, that's what we've talked about, World War One
type tactics that are taking place in trenches. The land
has been completely destroyed in that in that part of Ukraine,
in that southern and eastern portion, in the Dombats region.
So it's it's the spoils of war or made that
that almost uninhabitable at this point. But Russia can still
(25:04):
throw more people at this.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
That's interesting stuff. One other topic I wanted to hit
you with before we let you go. So you have
said many things over the years that have stuck in
my mind, and one.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Of them is, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I don't know how long ago it was that you
thought us in China would be swapping ordinance at some.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Point in the next few years. Do you still believe
that that's a that's the case.
Speaker 10 (25:29):
Well, now that this president has shown the kind of
leverage in negotiating this peace settlement, he's become teddy Roosevelt
speaks soft of to carry a big stick, And I
think that the way this has gone down, I think
China is much more in a box. I think China
now is much more constrained. I think had we used
(25:50):
previous foreign policy negotiation tactics with Hamas right now that
Trump wasn't involved, look a couple of you know, New
York City real estate developers, you know, make this deal
twenty point deal, which you know still.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Has a lot to go.
Speaker 10 (26:03):
But the bottom line is, I think China is now
more deterred than ever and I'm not sure that that's
the case. So at least in the short term, I
don't see anything with anything happening because of the way
this situation has evolved. Israel takes out the proxy forces
in the United States, takes care of the big player
in the rain and in the wrong situation, and now
(26:23):
Hamas is forced again coerced into making the ceasefire. I
think China now looks at the United States and says,
we cannot They're not predictable, that if we decide to
go after something, we can't tell what specifically we're going
to happen. So we've restored that level of deterrence that
we haven't seen since Ronald Reagan in the eighties, and
so I think I think that's a good thing from
a security perspective.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
For the United States.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
That's really interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
And you know, I don't want to drag you into politics,
but I would have to assume that they would not
have felt that way if Kamala Harrison. Yeah, but wow,
it's something to be alive at this point in history,
the way things are unfolding so quickly on so many
different spots.
Speaker 10 (27:05):
Yeah, I know for sure, thinking about where I was,
you know, thirty four years ago, I never thought the
Berlin Wall would fall. I never thought we would have
Gulf War One. Whoever thought any of those things would
happen Here we are now. I never thought Russia that
that lose their empire as well. And now there's no
question for the second half of the of the twentieth
you know, twenty first centuries is going to be this
(27:26):
fight for you know, global dominance in the United States
is still a player. I mean, we're you know, we're
two and zero in world wars, and I'd like to
think we're going to keep that up it should something
happen in the future.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
What did you think of Hegzet's speech to the generals
the other day.
Speaker 10 (27:42):
I'm of the ILK said it was a good thing
that they had that in person, and you know, people
who are losing their minds for reasons because they don't
like Pete Hegseth. But I mean I think that you know,
no general officer got out of their desk, got on
a plane, went to that meeting and got back, you know,
went went back home, right, They did other things, They
saw their family, they net work. So I just think
meeting in person is always good. I thought his message
(28:04):
was sound. I think it's too bad that the military
has gotten to the point where the standards have been lowered,
and a lot of it just had to do with
the politics of frankly, starting with Obama and Biden, you know,
not really enforcing anything. And I'm not saying that's Republicans
are not necessarily standard bearers for the military either, but
but there's been there was people that left the military
(28:25):
because of what was going on in the military into
those democratic administrations, and I think it's always good to reset.
The pendulum swings, and the pendulum has swung right now.
Everybody's clear what the intent is. They're clear at the
military academy, they're clear in the active duty units. Pete
hexapt like them, love him, hate him. He's crystal clear
about what he wants the military to look like at point.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
So good, you know, good conversation today, Mike. Really appreciate
your time, Mike Lyons. You can follow them at m
A G m Aj Mike Lyons on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Thanks Mike, Thanks Jact, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
All those topics are interesting to me. We'll talk more
about that later. And Joe is returning for Hour four.
Maybe I'll bring that up then. So he thinks China
is deterred now by Trump and the you know, the
whatever they call it, the crazy man theory that you
don't know what he's going to do.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Trump's only president for three more years though. Anyway, that's
interesting stuff. Got a lot of sports going on right now.
Major League Baseball is going to be Dodgers Mariners for
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It's good to be right. We've got more stuff on
the way that I want to get to. Which was
the topics that I want to make sure I jammed
in this hour. Oh, we got this funny thing about
a dietitian from the future talking to an eighties family
about their breakfast, and I think this will resonate in
(30:45):
a serious way about guidance the government gives us on
what to eat and what not to eat, among other things.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Coming up stay here.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
They're rare mosquito born virus detected just outside New York
City Health of We'll say it's the first local transmission
of this type in six years. Here the patient from
Nasau County, Long Island. The chicken gunya virus is most
common in the tropics. Symptoms include joint pain and fever.
Most patients do recover within a week. Office will still
say the risk of the public is low.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
That's just what we needed, was another new virus thingy
being spread around by mosquitos to think about. Thank you
very much, David Muir. I'm not worried about that. But
I only play that because you know, five years ago
whenever it was the first case of this new virus hit,
and that changed all our lives forever.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
God, I don't want another one of those in my lifetime.
I wanted to mention this while we're still on the
mighty KABC in Los Angeles today. The way I phrased that,
it sounded like we're not going to be on there anymore.
We are going to be on there, it's just that
the show's almost over for the day, is what I meant.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Anyway, It's a great article I.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Was reading in the I don't know where it was,
But does the La Metro system happen to be a
waste of time and money? They're doing a new study
or this one group is doing a new study trying
to figure out about the billions and billions of dollars
the taxpayers have spent on the Los Angeles Metro, one
of the greatest cities in the world, and this system
(32:15):
that almost nobody rides because it's dirty and unsafe, like
a lot of mass transit all across America.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
It's amazing that we put up with that.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Whatever city you're in, I'd be shocked if your experience
is not different than the cities I've been in visiting
or lived in, where your bus is almost always empty,
the metro train is almost always empty. Whatever you ride,
it's almost always empty. And you spend all this money
and people don't use them. Why do we put up
(32:47):
with this?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Anyway?
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I want to get bogged down on that because I
want to get to this funny thing? Is it where
matter where it came from, it came from. Funny or die.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Once you set it up. Katie because I don't want
to ruin the job. Okay.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
So it's a family that's it's from like the eighties
or the seventies, and they're sitting around and they're about
to enjoy a breakfast of eggs, steak, and toast.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Who are you?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
What are you doing in our house? I'm from the future.
Speaker 10 (33:13):
I'm here to warn you.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Don't eat that food. Why not the eggs. They're full
of cholesterol.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
What eating even just one egg can dramatically increase your
chance of heart attack.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Don't eat eggs. Oh my god, thank you, you're welcome, godspeed. Well,
I guess I better take those eggs. What you're bad?
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Yeah, we were wrong about the eggs. Hell, it turns
out there's two types of cholesterol. There's good cholesterol and
bad cholesterol, and eggs actually have both. But just don't
eat the egg yolks, so stick with the egg whites.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yes, thank you, God speed. I see where this is going.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Wait, we were wrong about the eggs again.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
Yeah, okay, So it turns out that the amount of
cholesterol in a food doesn't actually affect how much cholesterol
ends up in your blood. The eggs are probably fine.
In fact, we sort of don't even know what cholesterol is.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
What does the steak? You can't eat the steak we
were all.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
About the steak with.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
The pas man was not meant to eat bread, was
not meant to eat breash. Turns out it's genetic.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Doesn't matter whether you exercise or what Shet'm sorry I.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Ruined your meal. That's pretty good. Oh, that is pretty good.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
I got into that conversation with somebody just the other
day who's roughly my age. You're too young for this, Katie.
But like when we were kids, and this is crazy.
Where I grew up. I grew up in rural Wisconsin,
the dairy state, where people had been eating bacon, eggs,
and you know, cheese and butter for their entire lives.
And then all of a sudden came a study from
the government that said eggs have cholesterol, and bacon his
(35:03):
bed for in all these different things. And the thing
to eat is these cereals that are coming to plastic sack.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yes, that's in the dairy state where everything was made
right there, we were eating cereal out of a sack
because my having margarine instead of butter. Everybody that should
be brought up on a daily basis. Anytime the government
ever tells you to do anything with your health. Aren't
you the same people that told me to never eat
butter and only eat margarine. Then a couple of decades later,
(35:33):
you declared trans fat, which is what margarine in is.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
It's a tub of trans fat.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Is literally the worst thing you can possibly put in
your body.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Right, and eat this cereal that's got twenty three grams
of sugar per bite.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Right, which we now know that study was paid for
by Kellogg's I think or the other company, one of
the big cereal companies paid for the study. But man,
that whole margarine butter thing be the It should be
the end of any argument about the government telling us
what to eat. Yeah, that's absolutely amazing. Wait, I'm back
what we were wrong?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
We were wrong? Turns out I don't know.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
What cholesterol is.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
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Seems like a what but if you ever missed a
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