April 28, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- Trump's polling numbers & the gender gap!
- The new "it" crop
- 60 Minutes on recently surfaced 9/11 evidence
- Jack rides in a Waymo!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Getty and he.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
President Trump is holding a rally in Michigan on Tuesday
to mark the first one hundred days of his second term,
but the President is urging Republican members of Congress to
stay here in Washington, calling it a crucial week to
advance his agenda around immigration and tax cuts. Meanwhile, Senate
Minority Leader Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Is vowing that Democrats.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Will resist the President's latest legislative push.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
All right, we need to take a big, beautiful deal.
What about the bill?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
We need the budget shut down.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I want to talk about riding Weymo for the first time,
the uh automated self driving taxi thing. I do want
to talk at least a little bit about the nut
job who drove into that crowd in Canada and killed
all those people. Just horrible story. But another this person
was mentally ill. Everybody knew they were mentally ill. We
got to come up with a system in Western society
(01:18):
to not have to wait till they do this kind
of damage before we can lock them up somehow.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, as I've said many times, I'd be happy to
chair the committee. Let's get half a dozen reasonably intelligent,
reasonably reasonable people, and we can come up with a
policy that will prevent people from being targeted because I
don't know their ex boyfriend is angry at them. Right.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
So five major polls came out over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
We had some of the early stuff on Friday with
Trump's approval rating going down. And there's a lot of
news around politics that drives me nuts because it's, of
course it did. Everybody's approval rating goes down from when
they take office till one hundred days later.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I mean, just look at it, president after president after president.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's the whole fully recognized there's a honeymoon period. But
when the honeymoon's over, you have screaming headlines.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
The honeymoon's over, right, Yeah, exactly. I don't get that.
So Yeah, Anyway, there's one poll out there that hasn't
with the lowest approval rating any president's had it one
hundred days and eighty years. That's an outlier, though the
rest of them are just kind of normalish, you know,
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mid forties kind of where lots of people have ended up,
including Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama and a whole bunch
of different people. Although there's plenty of room to go
down if this whole tariff thing kicks in the way,
it might, according to some people, in the next couple
of weeks, but that's a different topic.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
On the issues.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I'm looking at the New York Times Siena College poll
just to give you an example. They have Trump upside
down on immigration, with fifty one disapproved forty seven approved.
That's just about what it is that within the marginal bearer,
so he's fifty to fifty on immigration. I always like
to look. Joe brings us up all the time. It's
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amazing people on the right win anything, are or don't
get trunks more in the polls given the fact that
all the coverage is negative. So if you take in CBS,
evening News, NPR, all kinds of mainstream coverage, it's all
negative on the border, all of it. This cancer victim
child was kicked out of the country. No, you know,
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here's an upside to controlling our border, which ninety percent
of Americans wont. It's just so it's amazing to me
that's as high as fifty to fifty on the border.
Some of the other issues also underwater. Managing the federal
government minus eight, there's another story. It's always about how
awful it is that these federal workers lost their jobs.
(03:56):
Has listen to NPR and Friday and they're talking Marco Rubio,
who's currently gutting the State Department, and I thought, okay, gutting.
You can say gutting. You also could have worded it
if you wanted to be unfair. You could just say
reducing the workforce if you wanted to be neutral, But
you could have if you wanted to spin it the
other direction, you could have said, Marco Rubio, who's trying
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to streamline the State Department.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You could have said that had been perfectly fair. But
you didn't. You said gutting. And that again it's so.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
The National Review, which is far from MAGA, characterized it
as a long overdue restructuring of foggy bottom, meaning the
State Department.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
That's what mark gutting. Marco said that yesterday on one
of the Sunday talk shows. He said, the planet is
the same size as it was twenty years ago, but
the state departments twice as big.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Explain that to me, which is a pretty good point.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Other issues the economy, Trump's minus twelve, trade minus eleven,
Russia Ukraine war minus twenty one, and the Arbrego Garcia case.
That's the specific dude sent that they Salvador in prison
by accident.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
That's the loving Maryland father.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yes, but even the Trump people say they shouldn't have
sent him right to that prison.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
He's minus twenty one on that.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
So that's your various issues, and we can do more
of that later if you want it.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I don't know if you do.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's listless. That's certain for certain. If the economy surges forward,
it doesn't mean much. If the economy takes a poop,
it's very very bad.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
But NBC News and they use the survey monkey, I
don't know what they get. You get two bananas if
you get within the margin of or something.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I don't know how they.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Well, they have an infinite number of monkeys taking an
infinite number of poles, which to one.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I don't want to lead with the best one, but
just to point out that young women are an outlier
in practically everything, which is kind of interesting. They should
break down more polls by age and gender. Because you'll
realize sometimes that wow, practically everybody feels this way, and
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then there's one segment that feels way different, right, that
changes the old overall number quite a bit. I'll just
jump to the headline because I thought it was so
darn good. Oh, I'll go with this this one, approve
of Trump handling of DEI. For all adults, Trump's at
forty four percent, which I actually think is fairly high
given the way it's presented to people.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, there's been a disinformation campaign about what it is
for decades now.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Approve of Trump handling DEI all adults forty four percent.
Gen Z men right in line with all adults forty
five percent. So you get to gen Z women twenty
two percent. Oh, by half as many, a twenty point
drop off for gen Z women. They have a way
different view of it than practically everybody else. And this one,
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which really I found bothersome are you proud to be American?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
In the category of little or not at all? To
be an American little or not at all? I was
happy to see for all adults it's only twenty two percent.
That means three quarters of Americans are somewhat or very
proud to be an American. That's good news three quarters,
but all adults twenty two percent for uh not dig
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in this country. Gen Z men in line with the
all of America twenty two percent.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Gen Z bump fellas.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Gen Z women forty one percent of gen Z women
are only a little or not at all proud to
be an American forty one percent.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I have an idea that that's not our greatest demographic
strength as a show either, and it's a shame. I
would love, love, love to know the perception from inside
that cohort. If you're a gen Z woman or no one,
can you help explain that? Or are they all so
crazy they would explain it in a way that we
found completely. I think it's a sitting.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
The only hang up here is separating it from the men,
since the men went to the same schools as the women.
I mean, if we're gonna blame the schooling system, although
way more women going to college than men, but that
is a shocking difference.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I think it is. It's a pretty
easy equation to understand how it got this way. I'll
answer my own question. You have the aggressive teaching of
the radical Neo Marxism in our schools now under our noses,
and we let it happen, and it is universally, it's
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practically universally now taught in our education systems horrifying K
through through grad school. Men have rejected this ideology at
numbers much much, much larger than women. And it comes
back to a bit of wisdom that we came across
a number of months ago that I held on to,
and I wish i'd made a note of who said this?
Is a woman who wrote it. She wrote, people who
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can't defend themselves physically, women and low testosterone men parse
information through a consensus filter as a safety mechanism. They
literally do not ask is this true? They ask will
others be okay with me? Thinking this is true? This
makes them very malleable to brute force manufactured consensus. If
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every screen they look at says the same thing, they
will adopt that position because their brain interprets it as
everyone in the tribe believes it. They don't ask is
this true? They ask will others be okay? With me?
Thinking this is true? And women, for all of their
incredible strengths and wonder, are much more prone to that
sort of thinking than men.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Driven by just being physically small or weaker. Yeah, they
need consensus. That's funny. My son and I had a conversation,
not about this, but kind of.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
So we're coming down the elevator at the hotel in
San Francisco, and this woman got on and then got off,
and she was like grown woman with bags, attractive but
like four or eleven ninety pounds, And we're just talking
about what it'd be like to be that size where
practically everybody you run into above fourth grade could knock
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you down and take your stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I have no idea what that would do to your
worldview throughout the day or rape you. Sure, having raised
two daughters has opened my eyes to that a lot.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Can I never think about it, obviously, but I don't
have to, and so you know, Okay, so that fits
in with you're looking for how do I stay safe?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
And you think most people think this, so I'm going
to think this too.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah. Arwell wrote about it that it was in nineteen
eighty four. He was writing in the voice of a character,
but it said it was usually the young woman's that
became the most enthusiastic and radical, the most crazed about
rooting out descent and reporting it to the authorities.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
But they're wrong on this one, very wrong. So how
do we turn that around?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Oh goodness, root out the rot in the education system,
which is a monster task. What we've got to do.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's absolutely necessary.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I mean, can you imagine if those numbers we saw
among young women who are essentially ashamed of being American
in spite of the utter delusion in thinking that our
sins are unique in history. They're not. That's the key point.
They may be sins and they should be corrected, but
everybody was doing it anyway. Can you imagine if that
attitude spread among the generalized population, we'd be doomed as
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a country, a civilization.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
It's interesting to me, though, that twenty points worth of
men of the same age going to the same schools
see through that nonsense and roll their eyes at it
or dismiss it or whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Right that what would you call it accommodation bias? They
don't have the consensus filter in the same way. I mean,
it's not like menor are completely above conformity. Lord knows, sure,
it's just a little different.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
That is fascinating.
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I want to talk about riding in the automated taxi
for the first time. Sixty minutes of Second Story last
night was amazing, and any thoughts you have on why
young men young women have such a different view of
America than really everyone else.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Stay tuned. You really introduced a way for my friends
to criticize me in a new way.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
All my.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Really, all the criticism that comes my way now is
combined in some way with the fact that I put
cream in my coffee. I want to talk about last
night sixty minutes coming up.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Stay tuned for that.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, and I want to go back to that cream
in the coffee theme that we discussed last week, because
I've been thinking about it all weekend long.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
It's very interesting, actually oddly enough.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, move over a quene Wah. The new it food,
the new it crop. Its name is terrible, it's nutrition
is excellent. Sorghum dang it.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
I didn't I never even tried the quene waw and
we're already onto sorgum.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Oh no quenewas so yesterday, please, it's it's dead oredan
disco sorgum be back like for the fourth time.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Sorghum as a guy who's a family roots or in Iowa.
I've heard of sorghum. I know about sorghum, but in
what way are people eating sorghum?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Well with the mouths It is a high protein non GMO,
which I don't give a single poop about gluten free grain. Now,
some of the folks on the sorgam counsel or worried
about the name. Just it's not a good name. It's
not said Claive Harris, the head chef at something or other.
(15:08):
The sore is fine, but the gum industrates implies maybe
chewing gum.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I don't know if that's it, but it's funny how
quene waw sounds like something I should try and is healthy.
Sorgum sounds like something I don't want to try, and uh,
I don't know it was sketchy.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Sorgum has twice the protein of quenwaw and four times
that of rice or corn. I don't go to rice
for protein, but that is kind of interesting.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I remember as a kid riding in a car where
my dad's younger brother said to him, do you remember
how to harvest sorghum? And they got into a conversation
about how you harvest sorghum, which I think good stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I thought was interesting because I certainly didn't know how
to do that.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
The Sorghum check Off, a former funded marketing group, touts
the cereal as a super grain and quote pro planet
protein source that's packed full of nutrients.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Sarah show for sorgum, put it in my yogurt or
my smoothiear you can well.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
For instance, their website features recipes for waffles, cheeseburger bowls,
sorghum breaded chicken tenders, and more. Sorghum can be popped
like popcorn and brewed in beer or tea. The plant
can also be used to make sorghum syrup. Sorgum is
having its moment. It'll help your gut bacteria and give
you a longer lasting erection.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
That last part I didn't see coming, but U okay,
well said. And then this also from the world of
the commerce. More or less, tech workers are now just
like the rest of us, miserable at work. Say goodbye
to the free lunches, skateboards, ping pong tables and massage.
You know stations in Silicon Valley not so long ago.
(16:48):
Working in tech job security, extravagant perks, and bring your
whole self to the office right. Vomit ethos rare in
other industries these days, writes Catherine Bindle in The Wall
Street Journal, A position to tech looks like a regular job.
And it's not just that there's no more grass fed
beef jerky in the kitchens. Instead, workers are contending with
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the constant fear of layoffs, longer hours, and an ever
growing list of responsibilities for the same pay.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
I was just at the vending machine in the lunch
room and there was no sorghum in there. We'll look
into that right away and get some sorghum.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's a stark reversal for a group that's own little
bit boom times when tech set the trend for workplace culture,
spreading ping pong tables off site retreats, kale chips and
the kale chips please, they're embarrassing compared to Keene Wall
and the idea that hoodies are appropriate office for tire.
But now apparently the bloom is off the ros and
now they're just grinning and baronet and singing a stinking job.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Well, welcome to life.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
It was fun. Well that lasted. Huh.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I never know if I believe those stories either direction
how much it's actually happening, Whether the the skateboard direction
or the suit and tie direction.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I don't know which.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I saw the skateboarding, saw it on the news.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Sixty minutes with some interesting stuff last night. That nine
to eleven story I want to tell you about if
you didn't see.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
It, what back Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Fair. This video of a Saudi national filming the US Capitol,
It's security posts and nearby landmarks was taken in the
summer of nineteen ninety nine and turned over to the
FBI after nine to eleven, but it was never shared
with the bureau's own field agents or top intelligence officials.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
A lot of people will see this video for the
first time and think, how is it remotely possible that
it's just coming to light now. Could it really have
been sitting in an evidence locker room all of these years?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Quite a story on sixty Minutes.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Last night's story number two, which reminded me of what
I loved about sixty Minutes most of my life, because
I've watched practically every episode since I was like twelve
years old.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Was just you know, really interesting news stories with what
the hell's going on there? Sort of bent to it.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Let me s time enough to develop them a lot
more than your evening news for instance.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Right, Yeah, bigger budget and more time to develop the stories.
Let's hear a little bit of this and let's see
if it fills in the gaps.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
If it doesn't, I will.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Federal investigators believe the hijackers on flight ninety three, which
crashed near Shanksville, Pennsylvania, plan to hit the US capital
as their likely target. In the video, bay Umi references
a quote plan.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
You said that in the plan?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
What plan?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
What do you think he's talking about.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
I think he's talking to the al Qaeda planners who
tasked him to take the pre operational surveillance video of
the intended target.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
So this video is taken in late June and early July.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Of nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
What does that timing tell you, Well.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
That means it was taken within ninety days of the
time when senior al Qaeda planners reached the decision that
the Capitol would be a target of the nine to
eleven attacks.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
So let me fill in some of the background here
so you understand what the heck is going on.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
So she got this Saudi dude who was in the
United States pre nine eleven, nineteen ninety nine, and they
show this video that he took in Washington, d C.
Where he's going around the Capitol building in various other
places but the Capitol and showing hey, this is the
south side of the Capitol.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Here's the garage over here where they park. Here are
the entrance and the exits and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Some paperwork that showed various altitudes planes would have to
be at to land, I mean, all kinds of different things.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
And somehow this video didn't make it to.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
The FBI and the CIA after nine eleven, when they're
doing the whole investigation of trying to figure out, you know,
who was behind this, how it was it planned to
what extent was was the Saudi government, perhaps involved.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
That's why it's coming out now.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
There's a lawsuit by many of the victims of nine
to eleven's families who were suing the Saudi Arabia, the
government of Saudi Arabia, for saying they had involvement.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Whether or not that comes out to any thing or not,
I don't know. But how did this video?
Speaker 4 (21:14):
And they talked to a number of people in the
CIA or in the FBI at the time who were
doing all these investigations. You know, if you read the
nine to eleven Committee report, which we read a lot
about in the air back when it came out, they
didn't have access to this for some reason. And they
can't imagine why play the very next one. This woman
was in charge of a lot of the investigations on
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this very topic with the CIA.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
In your view, this video was so significant that it
should have gone all the way to the top to
the White House.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
I think it should happen because it's the Capitol building.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Gena Bennett was a senior counter terrorism analyst at the
CIA for twenty years.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
In the aftermath of nine to eleven, we were briefing
the President and the National Security Council. We didn't expect
that this was a one and done. We expected al
Kaida to continue to try, so resources were going entirely
to trying to undermine any additional plotting.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
See, I don't I don't think this is mysterious at all. Okay, sorry,
it's someone high up in the White House or the
CIA said, any who is the Saudi taking the video?
Do we have information on that?
Speaker 4 (22:23):
They don't know where he status or they don't know
where he is. No, they have no idea where he is.
They think he's back in Saudi Arabia. He not only
because I don't think one of these clips so not
only did he take that video, then he goes to
San Diego where he just happens to help out a
couple of dudes from Saudi Arabia, just countryman news helping
out who were two of the hijackers.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And gets them a place to live.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah I remember him. So, Yeah, somebody high up in
the White House or the CIA talked to the Saudi
regime who said, look, we've got a radical faction. They're
in our government. If this gets out, it'll ruin us.
We're with you to fight back again. These guys, please
don't say anything and they got agreement. Don't show any
evidence that ties our people directly into this, we'd be
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We'll make it worth your while. I can practically guarantee
you that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I mean, that's pretty horrifying.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
If that's what happened while that woman there and a
bunch of other people were trying to figure out what's
the next round of attacks. You're gonna hide the fact
that there's some dude might still be here in the
country who's organizing these cells because it'd be embarrassing to
the Saudis.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah. I mean, I realize a lot of spy novels
and suspense thrillers are a little overcooked. But the idea
that the people doing the grunt work are being jobbed
by some of the powers that be way upstairs on
the sixth floor, it's not exactly an original idea. It happens.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Here's a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
The Saudi government says this is a tourist video that
there's nothing to see here.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
You don't buy that, No, I don't.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
Who does a tourist video that is reporting back on
this is where that building is and here's where the
security guards are.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's back to my point.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Yeah, well, nobody brought up your angle, which certainly might
be true. I really yeah, I'd be interested in what
that CIA director woman or the CIA woman thinks why
this information was kept to her from her or any
of the other investigators, because I mean, it seems beyond pertinent.
Like she said, it probably should have gone all the
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way up to the president, although you're saying it maybe
it did go all the way up to the president
and they.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, or certainly yeah, Dick Cheney or somebody in the CIA. Yeah,
I suspect the president. Our relationship with the Saudi's, I mean,
look at Joe Biden the Mummy, so he's particularly enthusiastic
about the Middle East being a mummy, but I mean
him declaring that they're a parries states, and then eighteen
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months later, well we can't shake hands, but we'll have
a fish bump, and then you know, six months after that,
he's just fully kissing their asses again. It's just they're
a friend of me. They've always been, and they have
as you know very well, there's a radical faction within
Saudi society that's Islamist fundamentalist, and there's some folks in
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the royal family who are down with that.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Well, has it been long enough that they can say
out loud what you're saying or not, because otherwise they
not calling it a tourist video? Please, well, can we
say it out loud? Saudi Arabi is obviously denying, just
because obviously this feeds a lot of your nine to
eleven's conspiracies who believe it's an inside job or something
like that.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, it's not, but well, yeah they could say it
unless NBS says, Hey, this whole Middle East piece thing
we're working on with Israel, why would you throw a
monkey wrench into that. These events happened twenty three years ago,
twenty four years ago, let's be cool. And the Trump
administration probably says, yeah, I see your point.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
So this guy is the Capitol, which I didn't know
they had declared that the Capitol was the target.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Man.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Can you imagine if they had been successful in crashing
into that building, maybe killing I don't know, one hundred
and fifty reps or maybe all of them, who knows, or.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Just if they only killed tourists. Can you imagine crushing
the rotunda and reducing that to rubble, just the visual
bollock fellon?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, Holy crap.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
We might have invaded like every country in the Middle
East if that had happened.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Holy crap.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
But anyway, so this guy cases the capitol, does the video,
goes to San Diego, helps two of the hijackers find
someplace to live because they didn't have any means of
support or cash or anyway to rent a place. He
helps him out with that so that they can have
some place to hang out before they hijack the plane
and attack America. And then he disappears back to Saudi
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Arabia and they just keep that hidden from the actual
investigators who're trying to figure out is there another attack
coming or how did this all happen.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
That's troubling.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Mm hmm wow. The ugly, ugly trade offs that are
like a daily occurrence in foreign policy. It's one of
the most shocking things I learned as a young college boy. There.
I was fresh faced, flat stomached, Michael awakened Gladys which
is Gladys player Harper. I was learning about American foreign policy.
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I was a young patriot, of course, but not the
realist that I am now. And we went into the
various pros and cons of supporting various regimes to resist communism,
whether in the Southeast Asia like Vietnam, or in the
South and Central America. Good lord, some of the regimes
we were in bed with. But what are you gonna do?
Let communism take over your hemisphere?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
No, I get that, and I'm aware of all that stuff,
but this is a different level, biggest attack in US
soil since Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Blah blah blah. We all know how big a deal
it was at the time.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
To still hide this sort of information from the very
investigators or trying to stop another one.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Still need this out, hees Wow, to quote the immortal
Don Henley, I might be wrong, but I could be wrong,
but I'm not.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I don't think we have time to fully get into
the Scott Pelly thing, and I don't want to give
it a short shrift to the one of the the
guy that drives Joe nuts because he talks so slow.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
He drives Joe nuts.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
He talk so slow on sixty minutes, gave a speech
at the end about their parent company and the new
boss and all this sort of stuff and free speech
and blah blah blah. We'll get into that later, and
all makes my hind in tired.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, yeah, that was kind of my takeaway too, A
tired heine. But I took an automated taxi, one of
the Waimo taxis, for the first time in San Francisco
on Friday, and I want to talk a little bit
about that and what it's going to do to the world,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Coming up. Stay here, we're in a waymo it was.
Speaker 9 (29:04):
Going the wrong way. We called customer support and it
stopped us right here and would.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Let us out of the car.
Speaker 9 (29:10):
And we kept saying, hey, we're on a highway please,
cars kept honking at us, and it would not move.
It would not let us out, no one from customer support,
but actually move the way.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Moo.
Speaker 9 (29:22):
So now we're walking on Mopack and our Waimo is
still there. This is insane.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Waybo there you go.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
So, for whatever reason, a lot of people hate one
electric cars and two self driving cars. There's a real
pushback against that whole thing. I'm not exactly sure what
that is.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, I get the electric car. I just think it's
opposition to those who would shove it down our throats,
no matter how ecological and expensive it is.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I certainly get that yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
I had been in San Francisco a number of times
in the last year where I saw the Weymo taxis
driving around and I just never got around to downloading
the app and doing all the stuff to ride one.
And so this past weekend I was in the city
with my son end of his spring break to do
some shopping.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Run around, look at motorcycles and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
We were in North Beach after eating dinner and I said,
let's take away MOO. So I took the time to
download the app and fill in all the information and
figure out. It was quite easy, very handy, and in
the way that a lot of Silicon Valley high tech
stuff is. They're good at it, and ordered one up.
And the first of all, they're all over the place.
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I mean absolutely all over the city. And there's only
a handful of cities in the country where they're operating
currently Phoenix, San Francisco, somebody said, Austin. But they're all
over it seems like every other car is a way mo.
They're white Jaguars and there's no driver in them kind
of stand out as there's obviously nobody driving the thing.
(31:00):
And so I dialed one up, just like if you
use Uber or anything like that. You put your destination
in there and it knows where you are because it's
looking at your app, and it tells you when the
car will pick you up and what it's going to cost,
and you either agree or don't agree, And it said
it'll be twelve minutes, which is a really long time
when you're in a big city on a Saturday evening.
(31:22):
I mean, because there's ubers all over the place. So
I took the hit just to ride a Weimo when
I know I could have gotten an Uber in two minutes.
That's something they're going to have to be better at.
Her Uber will win out just from a convenience standpoint.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
But once the novelties weren't off, you wouldn't wait twelve minutes,
all right.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
And I wondered how many people because there are lots
of people getting in Weimo's and I thought, wow, how
many people are taking it for the novelty versus they prefer.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It or whatever? It had to be a new street car. Yeah,
it's a tourist attraction. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
So like a lot of high tech like the Apple
Vision pro headset or whatever, what's the sixth month plan?
Is it going to be in a drawer or will
people still actually use it once the I can say
I've done this before wears off. I don't know about that,
but it it shows up, you press on the little
app unlock, the door's unlock, and you climb in, and
it's a bit of a weird feeling that you're getting
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into a vehicle with no driver and you close the
door and off you go. Now, as I mentioned earlier,
I went to San Francisco in myself driving Tesla with
it driving most of the way, so it's not a
crazy feeling for me to have something else driving that
it might be if you've never done that before. But
my son was kind of freaking out, and we took
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some videos where we scream because I thought those would
be funny to send to people.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Ahh, there's no driver.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
But it drove.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
It drove.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Have you ridden with cab drivers in big cities in
your life? I mean, it drove safer than many cab
drivers I've been in, you know, San Francisco or New
York with I was just gonna say I've had cab
rides in New York where I spent the whole ride thinking,
you know what.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I've had a good life. I've been blessed. It's okay
if it ends.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
Right.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
So then you combine the fact that you got a
screen in front of you where you adjust your temperature,
choose your music and the volume, and you don't feel
like you need to talk to anybody, although sometimes I
really like talking with cab drivers and I got a
story about that later.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I talked to this guy from Pakistan, was very, very interesting.
But do they planted in body odor just to make
you feel more comfortable? I was gonna say that the
complete lack of another human beings odor was nice too.
Their breath, their fresh there air freshener, their gum, whatever
it is. There's just no other human there in an
aggressive sense. I gotta say.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
On the whole way, I think I prefer the driverless taxi.
It was.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
It was a problem free, completely problem free, going around, merging, stopping,
letting us out, everything like that.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
And uh, what's the downside?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Is there a downside other than it's going to eliminate
gazillions of jobs across the country, But there's nothing you
can do about that.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Change happens just.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
When AI eliminates a gazillion more. Yeah, yeah, I could
see the appeal. It's like when I get on a train,
for well, a driverless cars, like a trackless train. When
I get on a train, I don't have to put
up with stink and stupid conversation or whatever. I just
it goes where it's gonna go. Kind of like that.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I asked because I took quite a few ubers as
we moved around town, and I ask everybody, what do
you think of the WAIM and nobody said anything negative
about it. But it's going to eliminate in the same
way that Uber and Lyft eliminated taxis.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
This is going to eliminate Uber and Lyft.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
I think it's just gonna wipe them out because it's
just got to be so much heat cheaper overall to
have no employees, none of the hatsle that goes with
having employees.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, where that they've gone with Jaguars, I wonder why.
It must be some sort of deal they struck. But
in a related story, if I might, there is a company.
Did you know that autonomous trucking companies have been testing
their fleets on Texas highways for several years.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
No, I've seen one autonomous semi truck, which is a
little worrisome just because they're so big and heavy.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
The idea that nobody's driving it.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Well, all the companies have always had backup safety drivers
in the cab they as they test in Texas. But
now one company, Aurora Innovation, which is interestingly based out
of Pittsburgh, the Silicon Valley of Pennsylvania, says it plans
to go completely driverless at the end of the month.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, I've been telling you.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Elon says Tesla is going to go driverless into twenty
twenty six. I mean, you don't have to pay attention anymore.
Fully automated like the Weaimo, you just ride in it.
And are state laws going to allow this or how
our insurance company is going to handle it?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I don't know how that'll shake out.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Given the enormous importance of shipping in the United States
and how it affects the bottom lines of all of
the big companies and all the small ones. I think
the lobbyists will get their way because we've got a
terrible shortage of truck drivers right now, high driver turnover rate,
you get to guys who don't drive terribly well, and
so yeah, I think this will be enormous for the economy,
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but put a hell of a lot of people out
of work. One employees are expensive, healthcare, HR complaints, sick days,
all kinds of different things. I steal a lot office supplies.
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President Trump is holding a rally in Michigan on Tuesday
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but the President is urging Republican members of Congress to
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Is vowing that Democrats.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
All right, we need to take a big, beautiful deal.
What about the bill?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
We need the budget shut down.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I want to talk about riding Weymo for the first time,
the uh automated self driving taxi thing. I do want
to talk at least a little bit about the nut
job who drove into that crowd in Canada and killed
all those people. Just horrible story. But another this person
was mentally ill. Everybody knew they were mentally ill. We
got to come up with a system in Western society
(01:18):
to not have to wait till they do this kind
of damage before we can lock them up somehow.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, as I've said many times, I'd be happy to
chair the committee. Let's get half a dozen reasonably intelligent,
reasonably reasonable people, and we can come up with a
policy that will prevent people from being targeted because I
don't know their ex boyfriend is angry at them. Right.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
So five major polls came out over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
We had some of the early stuff on Friday with
Trump's approval rating going down. And there's a lot of
news around politics that drives me nuts because it's, of
course it did. Everybody's approval rating goes down from when
they take office till one hundred days later.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I mean, just look at it, president after president after president.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's the whole fully recognized there's a honeymoon period. But
when the honeymoon's over, you have screaming headlines.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
The honeymoon's over, right, Yeah, exactly. I don't get that.
So Yeah, Anyway, there's one poll out there that hasn't
with the lowest approval rating any president's had it one
hundred days and eighty years. That's an outlier, though the
rest of them are just kind of normalish, you know,
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mid forties kind of where lots of people have ended up,
including Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama and a whole bunch
of different people. Although there's plenty of room to go
down if this whole tariff thing kicks in the way,
it might, according to some people, in the next couple
of weeks, but that's a different topic.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
On the issues.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I'm looking at the New York Times Siena College poll
just to give you an example. They have Trump upside
down on immigration, with fifty one disapproved forty seven approved.
That's just about what it is that within the marginal bearer,
so he's fifty to fifty on immigration. I always like
to look. Joe brings us up all the time. It's
(03:14):
amazing people on the right win anything, are or don't
get trunks more in the polls given the fact that
all the coverage is negative. So if you take in CBS,
evening News, NPR, all kinds of mainstream coverage, it's all
negative on the border, all of it. This cancer victim
child was kicked out of the country. No, you know,
(03:35):
here's an upside to controlling our border, which ninety percent
of Americans wont. It's just so it's amazing to me
that's as high as fifty to fifty on the border.
Some of the other issues also underwater. Managing the federal
government minus eight, there's another story. It's always about how
awful it is that these federal workers lost their jobs.
(03:56):
Has listen to NPR and Friday and they're talking Marco Rubio,
who's currently gutting the State Department, and I thought, okay, gutting.
You can say gutting. You also could have worded it
if you wanted to be unfair. You could just say
reducing the workforce if you wanted to be neutral, But
you could have if you wanted to spin it the
other direction, you could have said, Marco Rubio, who's trying
(04:16):
to streamline the State Department.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You could have said that had been perfectly fair. But
you didn't. You said gutting. And that again it's so.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
The National Review, which is far from MAGA, characterized it
as a long overdue restructuring of foggy bottom, meaning the
State Department.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
That's what mark gutting. Marco said that yesterday on one
of the Sunday talk shows. He said, the planet is
the same size as it was twenty years ago, but
the state departments twice as big.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Explain that to me, which is a pretty good point.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Other issues the economy, Trump's minus twelve, trade minus eleven,
Russia Ukraine war minus twenty one, and the Arbrego Garcia case.
That's the specific dude sent that they Salvador in prison
by accident.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
That's the loving Maryland father.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yes, but even the Trump people say they shouldn't have
sent him right to that prison.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
He's minus twenty one on that.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
So that's your various issues, and we can do more
of that later if you want it.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I don't know if you do.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's listless. That's certain for certain. If the economy surges forward,
it doesn't mean much. If the economy takes a poop,
it's very very bad.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
But NBC News and they use the survey monkey, I
don't know what they get. You get two bananas if
you get within the margin of or something.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I don't know how they.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Well, they have an infinite number of monkeys taking an
infinite number of poles, which to one.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I don't want to lead with the best one, but
just to point out that young women are an outlier
in practically everything, which is kind of interesting. They should
break down more polls by age and gender. Because you'll
realize sometimes that wow, practically everybody feels this way, and
(06:01):
then there's one segment that feels way different, right, that
changes the old overall number quite a bit. I'll just
jump to the headline because I thought it was so
darn good. Oh, I'll go with this this one, approve
of Trump handling of DEI. For all adults, Trump's at
forty four percent, which I actually think is fairly high
given the way it's presented to people.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, there's been a disinformation campaign about what it is
for decades now.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Approve of Trump handling DEI all adults forty four percent.
Gen Z men right in line with all adults forty
five percent. So you get to gen Z women twenty
two percent. Oh, by half as many, a twenty point
drop off for gen Z women. They have a way
different view of it than practically everybody else. And this one,
(06:50):
which really I found bothersome are you proud to be American?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
In the category of little or not at all? To
be an American little or not at all? I was
happy to see for all adults it's only twenty two percent.
That means three quarters of Americans are somewhat or very
proud to be an American. That's good news three quarters,
but all adults twenty two percent for uh not dig
(07:20):
in this country. Gen Z men in line with the
all of America twenty two percent.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Gen Z bump fellas.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Gen Z women forty one percent of gen Z women
are only a little or not at all proud to
be an American forty one percent.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I have an idea that that's not our greatest demographic
strength as a show either, and it's a shame. I
would love, love, love to know the perception from inside
that cohort. If you're a gen Z woman or no one,
can you help explain that? Or are they all so
crazy they would explain it in a way that we
found completely. I think it's a sitting.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
The only hang up here is separating it from the men,
since the men went to the same schools as the women.
I mean, if we're gonna blame the schooling system, although
way more women going to college than men, but that
is a shocking difference.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I think it is. It's a pretty
easy equation to understand how it got this way. I'll
answer my own question. You have the aggressive teaching of
the radical Neo Marxism in our schools now under our noses,
and we let it happen, and it is universally, it's
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practically universally now taught in our education systems horrifying K
through through grad school. Men have rejected this ideology at
numbers much much, much larger than women. And it comes
back to a bit of wisdom that we came across
a number of months ago that I held on to,
and I wish i'd made a note of who said this?
Is a woman who wrote it. She wrote, people who
(09:07):
can't defend themselves physically, women and low testosterone men parse
information through a consensus filter as a safety mechanism. They
literally do not ask is this true? They ask will
others be okay with me? Thinking this is true? This
makes them very malleable to brute force manufactured consensus. If
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every screen they look at says the same thing, they
will adopt that position because their brain interprets it as
everyone in the tribe believes it. They don't ask is
this true? They ask will others be okay? With me?
Thinking this is true? And women, for all of their
incredible strengths and wonder, are much more prone to that
sort of thinking than men.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Driven by just being physically small or weaker. Yeah, they
need consensus. That's funny. My son and I had a conversation,
not about this, but kind of.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
So we're coming down the elevator at the hotel in
San Francisco, and this woman got on and then got off,
and she was like grown woman with bags, attractive but
like four or eleven ninety pounds, And we're just talking
about what it'd be like to be that size where
practically everybody you run into above fourth grade could knock
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you down and take your stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I have no idea what that would do to your
worldview throughout the day or rape you. Sure, having raised
two daughters has opened my eyes to that a lot.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Can I never think about it, obviously, but I don't
have to, and so you know, Okay, so that fits
in with you're looking for how do I stay safe?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
And you think most people think this, so I'm going
to think this too.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah. Arwell wrote about it that it was in nineteen
eighty four. He was writing in the voice of a character,
but it said it was usually the young woman's that
became the most enthusiastic and radical, the most crazed about
rooting out descent and reporting it to the authorities.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
But they're wrong on this one, very wrong. So how
do we turn that around?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Oh goodness, root out the rot in the education system,
which is a monster task. What we've got to do.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's absolutely necessary.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I mean, can you imagine if those numbers we saw
among young women who are essentially ashamed of being American
in spite of the utter delusion in thinking that our
sins are unique in history. They're not. That's the key point.
They may be sins and they should be corrected, but
everybody was doing it anyway. Can you imagine if that
attitude spread among the generalized population, we'd be doomed as
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a country, a civilization.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
It's interesting to me, though, that twenty points worth of
men of the same age going to the same schools
see through that nonsense and roll their eyes at it
or dismiss it or whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Right that what would you call it accommodation bias? They
don't have the consensus filter in the same way. I mean,
it's not like menor are completely above conformity. Lord knows, sure,
it's just a little different.
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That is fascinating.
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I want to talk about riding in the automated taxi
for the first time. Sixty minutes of Second Story last
night was amazing, and any thoughts you have on why
young men young women have such a different view of
America than really everyone else.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Stay tuned. You really introduced a way for my friends
to criticize me in a new way.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
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Speaker 4 (13:50):
Really, all the criticism that comes my way now is
combined in some way with the fact that I put
cream in my coffee. I want to talk about last
night sixty minutes coming up.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Stay tuned for that.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, and I want to go back to that cream
in the coffee theme that we discussed last week, because
I've been thinking about it all weekend long.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
It's very interesting, actually oddly enough.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, move over a quene Wah. The new it food,
the new it crop. Its name is terrible, it's nutrition
is excellent. Sorghum dang it.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
I didn't I never even tried the quene waw and
we're already onto sorgum.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Oh no quenewas so yesterday, please, it's it's dead oredan
disco sorgum be back like for the fourth time.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Sorghum as a guy who's a family roots or in Iowa.
I've heard of sorghum. I know about sorghum, but in
what way are people eating sorghum?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Well with the mouths It is a high protein non GMO,
which I don't give a single poop about gluten free grain. Now,
some of the folks on the sorgam counsel or worried
about the name. Just it's not a good name. It's
not said Claive Harris, the head chef at something or other.
(15:08):
The sore is fine, but the gum industrates implies maybe
chewing gum.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I don't know if that's it, but it's funny how
quene waw sounds like something I should try and is healthy.
Sorgum sounds like something I don't want to try, and uh,
I don't know it was sketchy.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Sorgum has twice the protein of quenwaw and four times
that of rice or corn. I don't go to rice
for protein, but that is kind of interesting.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I remember as a kid riding in a car where
my dad's younger brother said to him, do you remember
how to harvest sorghum? And they got into a conversation
about how you harvest sorghum, which I think good stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I thought was interesting because I certainly didn't know how
to do that.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
The Sorghum check Off, a former funded marketing group, touts
the cereal as a super grain and quote pro planet
protein source that's packed full of nutrients.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Sarah show for sorgum, put it in my yogurt or
my smoothiear you can well.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
For instance, their website features recipes for waffles, cheeseburger bowls,
sorghum breaded chicken tenders, and more. Sorghum can be popped
like popcorn and brewed in beer or tea. The plant
can also be used to make sorghum syrup. Sorgum is
having its moment. It'll help your gut bacteria and give
you a longer lasting erection.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
That last part I didn't see coming, but U okay,
well said. And then this also from the world of
the commerce. More or less, tech workers are now just
like the rest of us, miserable at work. Say goodbye
to the free lunches, skateboards, ping pong tables and massage.
You know stations in Silicon Valley not so long ago.
(16:48):
Working in tech job security, extravagant perks, and bring your
whole self to the office right. Vomit ethos rare in
other industries these days, writes Catherine Bindle in The Wall
Street Journal, A position to tech looks like a regular job.
And it's not just that there's no more grass fed
beef jerky in the kitchens. Instead, workers are contending with
(17:09):
the constant fear of layoffs, longer hours, and an ever
growing list of responsibilities for the same pay.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
I was just at the vending machine in the lunch
room and there was no sorghum in there. We'll look
into that right away and get some sorghum.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
It's a stark reversal for a group that's own little
bit boom times when tech set the trend for workplace culture,
spreading ping pong tables off site retreats, kale chips and
the kale chips please, they're embarrassing compared to Keene Wall
and the idea that hoodies are appropriate office for tire.
But now apparently the bloom is off the ros and
now they're just grinning and baronet and singing a stinking job.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Well, welcome to life.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
It was fun. Well that lasted. Huh.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I never know if I believe those stories either direction
how much it's actually happening, Whether the the skateboard direction
or the suit and tie direction.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I don't know which.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I saw the skateboarding, saw it on the news.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Sixty minutes with some interesting stuff last night. That nine
to eleven story I want to tell you about if
you didn't see.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
It, what back Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Fair. This video of a Saudi national filming the US Capitol,
It's security posts and nearby landmarks was taken in the
summer of nineteen ninety nine and turned over to the
FBI after nine to eleven, but it was never shared
with the bureau's own field agents or top intelligence officials.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
A lot of people will see this video for the
first time and think, how is it remotely possible that
it's just coming to light now. Could it really have
been sitting in an evidence locker room all of these years?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Quite a story on sixty Minutes.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Last night's story number two, which reminded me of what
I loved about sixty Minutes most of my life, because
I've watched practically every episode since I was like twelve
years old.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Was just you know, really interesting news stories with what
the hell's going on there? Sort of bent to it.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Let me s time enough to develop them a lot
more than your evening news for instance.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Right, Yeah, bigger budget and more time to develop the stories.
Let's hear a little bit of this and let's see
if it fills in the gaps.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
If it doesn't, I will.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Federal investigators believe the hijackers on flight ninety three, which
crashed near Shanksville, Pennsylvania, plan to hit the US capital
as their likely target. In the video, bay Umi references
a quote plan.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
You said that in the plan?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
What plan?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
What do you think he's talking about.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
I think he's talking to the al Qaeda planners who
tasked him to take the pre operational surveillance video of
the intended target.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
So this video is taken in late June and early July.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Of nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
What does that timing tell you, Well.
Speaker 7 (19:57):
That means it was taken within ninety days of the
time when senior al Qaeda planners reached the decision that
the Capitol would be a target of the nine to
eleven attacks.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
So let me fill in some of the background here
so you understand what the heck is going on.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
So she got this Saudi dude who was in the
United States pre nine eleven, nineteen ninety nine, and they
show this video that he took in Washington, d C.
Where he's going around the Capitol building in various other
places but the Capitol and showing hey, this is the
south side of the Capitol.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Here's the garage over here where they park. Here are
the entrance and the exits and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Some paperwork that showed various altitudes planes would have to
be at to land, I mean, all kinds of different things.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
And somehow this video didn't make it to.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
The FBI and the CIA after nine eleven, when they're
doing the whole investigation of trying to figure out, you know,
who was behind this, how it was it planned to
what extent was was the Saudi government, perhaps involved.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
That's why it's coming out now.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
There's a lawsuit by many of the victims of nine
to eleven's families who were suing the Saudi Arabia, the
government of Saudi Arabia, for saying they had involvement.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Whether or not that comes out to any thing or not,
I don't know. But how did this video?
Speaker 4 (21:14):
And they talked to a number of people in the
CIA or in the FBI at the time who were
doing all these investigations. You know, if you read the
nine to eleven Committee report, which we read a lot
about in the air back when it came out, they
didn't have access to this for some reason. And they
can't imagine why play the very next one. This woman
was in charge of a lot of the investigations on
(21:35):
this very topic with the CIA.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
In your view, this video was so significant that it
should have gone all the way to the top to
the White House.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
I think it should happen because it's the Capitol building.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Gena Bennett was a senior counter terrorism analyst at the
CIA for twenty years.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
In the aftermath of nine to eleven, we were briefing
the President and the National Security Council. We didn't expect
that this was a one and done. We expected al
Kaida to continue to try, so resources were going entirely
to trying to undermine any additional plotting.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
See, I don't I don't think this is mysterious at all. Okay, sorry,
it's someone high up in the White House or the
CIA said, any who is the Saudi taking the video?
Do we have information on that?
Speaker 4 (22:23):
They don't know where he status or they don't know
where he is. No, they have no idea where he is.
They think he's back in Saudi Arabia. He not only
because I don't think one of these clips so not
only did he take that video, then he goes to
San Diego where he just happens to help out a
couple of dudes from Saudi Arabia, just countryman news helping
out who were two of the hijackers.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
And gets them a place to live.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah I remember him. So, Yeah, somebody high up in
the White House or the CIA talked to the Saudi
regime who said, look, we've got a radical faction. They're
in our government. If this gets out, it'll ruin us.
We're with you to fight back again. These guys, please
don't say anything and they got agreement. Don't show any
evidence that ties our people directly into this, we'd be
(23:08):
We'll make it worth your while. I can practically guarantee
you that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I mean, that's pretty horrifying.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
If that's what happened while that woman there and a
bunch of other people were trying to figure out what's
the next round of attacks. You're gonna hide the fact
that there's some dude might still be here in the
country who's organizing these cells because it'd be embarrassing to
the Saudis.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah. I mean, I realize a lot of spy novels
and suspense thrillers are a little overcooked. But the idea
that the people doing the grunt work are being jobbed
by some of the powers that be way upstairs on
the sixth floor, it's not exactly an original idea. It happens.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Here's a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
The Saudi government says this is a tourist video that
there's nothing to see here.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
You don't buy that, No, I don't.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
Who does a tourist video that is reporting back on
this is where that building is and here's where the
security guards are.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's back to my point.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Yeah, well, nobody brought up your angle, which certainly might
be true. I really yeah, I'd be interested in what
that CIA director woman or the CIA woman thinks why
this information was kept to her from her or any
of the other investigators, because I mean, it seems beyond pertinent.
Like she said, it probably should have gone all the
(24:29):
way up to the president, although you're saying it maybe
it did go all the way up to the president
and they.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, or certainly yeah, Dick Cheney or somebody in the CIA. Yeah,
I suspect the president. Our relationship with the Saudi's, I mean,
look at Joe Biden the Mummy, so he's particularly enthusiastic
about the Middle East being a mummy, but I mean
him declaring that they're a parries states, and then eighteen
(24:58):
months later, well we can't shake hands, but we'll have
a fish bump, and then you know, six months after that,
he's just fully kissing their asses again. It's just they're
a friend of me. They've always been, and they have
as you know very well, there's a radical faction within
Saudi society that's Islamist fundamentalist, and there's some folks in
(25:18):
the royal family who are down with that.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Well, has it been long enough that they can say
out loud what you're saying or not, because otherwise they
not calling it a tourist video? Please, well, can we
say it out loud? Saudi Arabi is obviously denying, just
because obviously this feeds a lot of your nine to
eleven's conspiracies who believe it's an inside job or something
like that.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, it's not, but well, yeah they could say it
unless NBS says, Hey, this whole Middle East piece thing
we're working on with Israel, why would you throw a
monkey wrench into that. These events happened twenty three years ago,
twenty four years ago, let's be cool. And the Trump
administration probably says, yeah, I see your point.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
So this guy is the Capitol, which I didn't know
they had declared that the Capitol was the target.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Man.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Can you imagine if they had been successful in crashing
into that building, maybe killing I don't know, one hundred
and fifty reps or maybe all of them, who knows, or.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Just if they only killed tourists. Can you imagine crushing
the rotunda and reducing that to rubble, just the visual
bollock fellon?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, Holy crap.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
We might have invaded like every country in the Middle
East if that had happened.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Holy crap.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
But anyway, so this guy cases the capitol, does the video,
goes to San Diego, helps two of the hijackers find
someplace to live because they didn't have any means of
support or cash or anyway to rent a place. He
helps him out with that so that they can have
some place to hang out before they hijack the plane
and attack America. And then he disappears back to Saudi
(26:53):
Arabia and they just keep that hidden from the actual
investigators who're trying to figure out is there another attack
coming or how did this all happen.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
That's troubling.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Mm hmm wow. The ugly, ugly trade offs that are
like a daily occurrence in foreign policy. It's one of
the most shocking things I learned as a young college boy. There.
I was fresh faced, flat stomached, Michael awakened Gladys which
is Gladys player Harper. I was learning about American foreign policy.
(27:28):
I was a young patriot, of course, but not the
realist that I am now. And we went into the
various pros and cons of supporting various regimes to resist communism,
whether in the Southeast Asia like Vietnam, or in the
South and Central America. Good lord, some of the regimes
we were in bed with. But what are you gonna do?
Let communism take over your hemisphere?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
No, I get that, and I'm aware of all that stuff,
but this is a different level, biggest attack in US
soil since Pearl Harbor.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Blah blah blah. We all know how big a deal
it was at the time.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
To still hide this sort of information from the very
investigators or trying to stop another one.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Still need this out, hees Wow, to quote the immortal
Don Henley, I might be wrong, but I could be wrong,
but I'm not.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I don't think we have time to fully get into
the Scott Pelly thing, and I don't want to give
it a short shrift to the one of the the
guy that drives Joe nuts because he talks so slow.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
He drives Joe nuts.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
He talk so slow on sixty minutes, gave a speech
at the end about their parent company and the new
boss and all this sort of stuff and free speech
and blah blah blah. We'll get into that later, and
all makes my hind in tired.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, yeah, that was kind of my takeaway too, A
tired heine. But I took an automated taxi, one of
the Waimo taxis, for the first time in San Francisco
on Friday, and I want to talk a little bit
about that and what it's going to do to the world,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Coming up. Stay here, we're in a waymo it was.
Speaker 9 (29:04):
Going the wrong way. We called customer support and it
stopped us right here and would.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Let us out of the car.
Speaker 9 (29:10):
And we kept saying, hey, we're on a highway please,
cars kept honking at us, and it would not move.
It would not let us out, no one from customer support,
but actually move the way.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Moo.
Speaker 9 (29:22):
So now we're walking on Mopack and our Waimo is
still there. This is insane.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Waybo there you go.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
So, for whatever reason, a lot of people hate one
electric cars and two self driving cars. There's a real
pushback against that whole thing. I'm not exactly sure what
that is.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, I get the electric car. I just think it's
opposition to those who would shove it down our throats,
no matter how ecological and expensive it is.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I certainly get that yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
I had been in San Francisco a number of times
in the last year where I saw the Weymo taxis
driving around and I just never got around to downloading
the app and doing all the stuff to ride one.
And so this past weekend I was in the city
with my son end of his spring break to do
some shopping.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Run around, look at motorcycles and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
We were in North Beach after eating dinner and I said,
let's take away MOO. So I took the time to
download the app and fill in all the information and
figure out. It was quite easy, very handy, and in
the way that a lot of Silicon Valley high tech
stuff is. They're good at it, and ordered one up.
And the first of all, they're all over the place.
(30:39):
I mean absolutely all over the city. And there's only
a handful of cities in the country where they're operating
currently Phoenix, San Francisco, somebody said, Austin. But they're all
over it seems like every other car is a way mo.
They're white Jaguars and there's no driver in them kind
of stand out as there's obviously nobody driving the thing.
(31:00):
And so I dialed one up, just like if you
use Uber or anything like that. You put your destination
in there and it knows where you are because it's
looking at your app, and it tells you when the
car will pick you up and what it's going to cost,
and you either agree or don't agree, And it said
it'll be twelve minutes, which is a really long time
when you're in a big city on a Saturday evening.
(31:22):
I mean, because there's ubers all over the place. So
I took the hit just to ride a Weimo when
I know I could have gotten an Uber in two minutes.
That's something they're going to have to be better at.
Her Uber will win out just from a convenience standpoint.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
But once the novelties weren't off, you wouldn't wait twelve minutes,
all right.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
And I wondered how many people because there are lots
of people getting in Weimo's and I thought, wow, how
many people are taking it for the novelty versus they prefer.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It or whatever? It had to be a new street car. Yeah,
it's a tourist attraction. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
So like a lot of high tech like the Apple
Vision pro headset or whatever, what's the sixth month plan?
Is it going to be in a drawer or will
people still actually use it once the I can say
I've done this before wears off. I don't know about that,
but it it shows up, you press on the little
app unlock, the door's unlock, and you climb in, and
it's a bit of a weird feeling that you're getting
(32:14):
into a vehicle with no driver and you close the
door and off you go. Now, as I mentioned earlier,
I went to San Francisco in myself driving Tesla with
it driving most of the way, so it's not a
crazy feeling for me to have something else driving that
it might be if you've never done that before. But
my son was kind of freaking out, and we took
(32:34):
some videos where we scream because I thought those would
be funny to send to people.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Ahh, there's no driver.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
But it drove.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
It drove.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Have you ridden with cab drivers in big cities in
your life? I mean, it drove safer than many cab
drivers I've been in, you know, San Francisco or New
York with I was just gonna say I've had cab
rides in New York where I spent the whole ride thinking,
you know what.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I've had a good life. I've been blessed. It's okay
if it ends.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
Right.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
So then you combine the fact that you got a
screen in front of you where you adjust your temperature,
choose your music and the volume, and you don't feel
like you need to talk to anybody, although sometimes I
really like talking with cab drivers and I got a
story about that later.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
I talked to this guy from Pakistan, was very, very interesting.
But do they planted in body odor just to make
you feel more comfortable? I was gonna say that the
complete lack of another human beings odor was nice too.
Their breath, their fresh there air freshener, their gum, whatever
it is. There's just no other human there in an
aggressive sense. I gotta say.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
On the whole way, I think I prefer the driverless taxi.
It was.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
It was a problem free, completely problem free, going around, merging, stopping,
letting us out, everything like that.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
And uh, what's the downside?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Is there a downside other than it's going to eliminate
gazillions of jobs across the country, But there's nothing you
can do about that.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Change happens just.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
When AI eliminates a gazillion more. Yeah, yeah, I could
see the appeal. It's like when I get on a train,
for well, a driverless cars, like a trackless train. When
I get on a train, I don't have to put
up with stink and stupid conversation or whatever. I just
it goes where it's gonna go. Kind of like that.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I asked because I took quite a few ubers as
we moved around town, and I ask everybody, what do
you think of the WAIM and nobody said anything negative
about it. But it's going to eliminate in the same
way that Uber and Lyft eliminated taxis.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
This is going to eliminate Uber and Lyft.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
I think it's just gonna wipe them out because it's
just got to be so much heat cheaper overall to
have no employees, none of the hatsle that goes with
having employees.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, where that they've gone with Jaguars, I wonder why.
It must be some sort of deal they struck. But
in a related story, if I might, there is a company.
Did you know that autonomous trucking companies have been testing
their fleets on Texas highways for several years.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
No, I've seen one autonomous semi truck, which is a
little worrisome just because they're so big and heavy.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
The idea that nobody's driving it.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Well, all the companies have always had backup safety drivers
in the cab they as they test in Texas. But
now one company, Aurora Innovation, which is interestingly based out
of Pittsburgh, the Silicon Valley of Pennsylvania, says it plans
to go completely driverless at the end of the month.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, I've been telling you.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Elon says Tesla is going to go driverless into twenty
twenty six. I mean, you don't have to pay attention anymore.
Fully automated like the Weaimo, you just ride in it.
And are state laws going to allow this or how
our insurance company is going to handle it?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I don't know how that'll shake out.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Given the enormous importance of shipping in the United States
and how it affects the bottom lines of all of
the big companies and all the small ones. I think
the lobbyists will get their way because we've got a
terrible shortage of truck drivers right now, high driver turnover rate,
you get to guys who don't drive terribly well, and
so yeah, I think this will be enormous for the economy,
(36:00):
but put a hell of a lot of people out
of work. One employees are expensive, healthcare, HR complaints, sick days,
all kinds of different things. I steal a lot office supplies.
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