August 6, 2025 • 11 mins
On the Wednesday, August 6 2025 edition of The Armstrong & Getty One More Thing podcast...
- Jack & Joe experienced a very, very good biz meeting.
- Jack has a new hobby!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I thought that was the starboard. One more thing, I'm
strong and getty.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
One more thing, did you say starbursts starboard as opposed
to ports. We will get to my sailing lessons here
in a little bit. It's right, I'm taking sailing lessons.
That's not something I thought I would ever.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Say in my life. I was going to bring this up.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Joe and I were on a meeting yesterday, a zoom
meeting with a whole bunch of people for a client,
and everybody on there but us was in their twenties,
early thirties. They were pretty young.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, the almost everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, anyway, Kate, I thought this was interesting and maybe
you can relate to it since you're young. Joe and
I are because of our schedule and everything like that
and our personalities. We both won luckily, very rarely have
to go to meetings to be able to have a
career in life, and go to like one meeting of
year is pretty awesome, and then and then neither one
(00:59):
of us like them to last very long.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Fair.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, I don't know anybody who likes a nice long meeting, well,
I'll tell you.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
And yet most of them turn into that.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yes, because it really only takes one person in a
slight position of authority to drag it out anyway. So
we're on the Zoom call yesterday with a whole bunch
of twenty somethings, talked about the business we were going
to do. I don't know how many minutes. It was
in very minutes, and then somebody said, is that about it?
Can we wrap it up? And yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
And it was over. It was over. And I texted Joe.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I said, if there had been one fifty five year
old salesperson on that, we would still be talking right now.
The younger generation has no interest in just sitting around
in a meaning jabberin.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Is it because they're so awkward communicating in person to people?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I mean, if that's it, I'm encouraging you.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I didn't get that sense from this crowd.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I think it's just a they don't They just don't
do the niceties. And maybe that's a bad thing. I
don't know, but they didn't feel any need. Joe and
I've sensed over the years there's a certain belief, especially
by whoever called the meeting, it can't get over too
quick or that kind of like makes it seem like
we shouldn't have had a meeting, I mean.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Or it's not respectful to just come in, take care
of stuff and leave. Now, in some cultures that would
be incredibly disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Cultures will do no small talk, no chat.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
No, you would never do that.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Cultures like some of the most successful businesses on earth,
both Elon Musk and Steve Jobs, very famous for barely
having any meetings, and when they have them, they're.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Quick, right, Steve Jobs famously nobody's allowed to sit down.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Or was it we're gonna check the boxes and go.
I don't remember if his Musk or Jobs, but it
was always can this be an email when somebody would
talk about a meeting? Yeah, which I've often wondered, how
many meetings have you been to where you thought this
could have been a group email so easily?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Well, and for what it's worth, just getting back to
that video conference, I emerged from it thinking, boy, those
people are really sharp and good at their jobs.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
The efficient it was not, And of course, you know,
getting back to our personalities, you know, the one thing
that dawned on me crystal clear early in our careers
where we did have to go to a fair number
of meetings was the great divide between people whose job
is accomplishing something and people whose job is being somewhere
(03:25):
for a set amount of time and maybe they accomplished something,
because you know the nature of our thing is we
just we work until we can't stand to work anymore,
and we try to do a good show and get
rating and blah blah blah. But if you're leaving at five,
no matter how much you've gotten done, or whether you've
worked hard or just coasted or whatever, you're going to
(03:46):
prolong that meeting as long as you possibly can.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It might be the best part of your day.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Oh yeah, exactly, sit around chatting with coworkers and laughing
and you're not focused, you're not working or anything.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
It was always that sort of person who prolonged the meeting. Meanwhile,
a lot of the salespeople like had to sell to
survive or like, can we get out of here please?
The good ones.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Anyway, I remember being in a meeting this had to
have been like twelve years ago, and one of the
guys who I was talking to, and when I'm saying
a meeting, I was the youngest person in this room
by like twenty five years. Everybody in there was probably
fifty five or above, and it was being run by
somebody in their seventies.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And I was talking to the guy and.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
He was like, I think these people are still back
in the day where we couldn't just like text somebody
or email somebody or question after the meeting, so everybody
felt like they had to get it out right then.
And I thought that was kind of an interesting element,
because yeah, a lot of us it's like, okay, oh,
I'll ask Like if I have a.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Question, I'll just ask him later.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I used to always say, and I still believe it.
I've been to like two meetings in my life that
needed to happen. It couldn't have been a phone call
or an email. No, oh boy, do you think there's
a go ahead?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I was just gonna say, I try to be honest
about what is what seems to me to be right
or good or better, just because of being something of
an introvert. And I don't like small talk. I don't
like pretending to be chummy with people apparently you know,
and other people are not made that way, Like you know,
(05:20):
we have friends, I'll keep it vake who are like
way down the road of being individualists who don't need
like any associations and friends and support and whatever. And
it's a blind spot because they don't understand. No, like
eighty five percent of the population is not made that way,
So the way you see the world is never going
(05:42):
to work. And I try to be you know, fair
about that, because there are people who are energized and
given joy by being in a meeting for a longer
time because they're with other people.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
That explains that part of it. But does it explain
why a company that's is to make a certain amount
of money and then make more of the next quarter
allows that do that in your own time?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah? Yeah, in your social life.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I think it's because most people are introverts and introvert
I'm sorry, are extroverts and extroverts think their normal and
introverts are weird.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Before we move on to Port and Starboard, Katie is
the youngest person there. Does it make any sense to
you our idea that if there had been one older
person there it would have lasted twice as long.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I didn't want to say it, but yeah, probably, yep.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I think the young crowds like we're done.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
It's always the old guy when they say does anybody
have any questions that decides to stand up and say, yeah,
I have a question, And then everybody looks at him
and says.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You know, my favorite thing in any meeting, my favorite
thing of all is the person that comes in late
and then asks skoshed about something that was already covered,
and then they covered again for everybody else that's already
heard it.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Right, Everybody kind.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Of looks around awkwardly for a minute, then bunches into
it again. Have the confidence, America humanity to say we
covered that before you got there. We can talk after
the amount of time that doesn't effing happen. It makes
me insane, It makes me militant. They are like crimes
against humanity that pissed me off less than when the
moderator of a meeting just looks around like, well, there's
(07:20):
nothing else I can do but waste everybody else's time
by repeating all this.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So here we go. God, I want to assault people. Okay,
so I'll keep this brief.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Since the last the lessons actually didn't happen, So I
signed up for these sailing lessons and I was all excited.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Three things rum sodomy and the lash. The worst of
those are the three things that kept order in the
British Navy. And if they're good enough for the Great
British Navy, they're good enough for your sailboat jack.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
The disappointing thing was, even though the teacher didn't show up,
I still got scurvy. I thought I could avoid it,
and I got buggered.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Another day, another buggery.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
So I live next to this little man made lake
and they people sail on it, and they were doing lessons,
and I thought one I've always kind of wanted.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I'm not really into boats, but I've always liked the
idea of sailing, just because it's so ancient and the
way human beings, you know, got out of their continents
and traveled the world. AnyWho, I thought it tacked these
little sailing lessons, and I thought maybe because they got
the boats there. We live right next to the little lake,
they got the boats there. If I learn how to
do this, maybe Henry and I could go out and
(08:36):
start doing that. Maybe good bah bah bah love it
another thing for a kid to learn how to do. Unfortunately,
somehow they missed my email or whatever, and nobody else
signed up for the class. So the instructor didn't think
there was anybody for the class. So I wear it
around for a while. The instructor didn't show up, But
in two weeks I'm going to do it. What I
find funny is it's a two hour class, two days
in a row, so Saturday and Sunday noon to two,
(08:58):
and then they give you a certificate.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I don't know how the certificate is gonna certificate of
what a certificate of?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
You have completed the four our class with this person
at this little lake, with this boat.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Say for the ocean.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Well, now you can present that certificate at the security
card for the ocean. Tell no, this is fine, I'm certified.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Exactly who do I show this certificate too? And in
what circumstance?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Sail around the world and then show them your certificate?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Jack, you got a frame?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Yo yo, yo, yo yo. You you can't just walk
in this marina and grab a boat at.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Oh oh, you have the certificate.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I'm sorry, sir, help yourself, yes, sir, or.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Perhaps I get some of those Somali pirates. I'm the coptain.
Now I just show them my certificate and it's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Now, you famously refuse to don short pants and you're
always wearing Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I'm swim gear because that's special jeans that you swim. Oh,
like we're in Florida.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I got swim trunks and a swim shirt and something
to cover my head because if I'm out there for
two hours, man, their opportunity to get burnt really exists.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Are they jorts? They're not jeorts?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
But and do you have rubber sold cowboy boots since
you usually wear cowboy boats? Address I do, otherwise you'll
slip and crack your head open.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Well.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I was there the other day lifting weights and I
saw one of the I saw some kids out there
on one of the sailboats and it flipped over in
the water, and so I went into the office. I said, Hey,
the sailboat just flipped over it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Is that something to be worried about it? And they said,
now they teach you in that in the class, you
flip over the sailboat on purpose to show you how
to get it back upright again and everything like that.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I thought, Okay, so I will be getting wet, I guess.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
But of course, because of the way I am, having
not even taken the classes yet, I'm on Facebook marketplace,
shopping for sailboats and planning giant.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Excursions and all this sort of.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Exactly having not even gotten on this twelve foot sail
boat in a man made lake with no wind.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Well, there's a guy who went on a long screen
about the evils of TV and how he should give
it up, then showed up with the biggest TV I've
ever seen in my life. Two days later, I could
see you like buying one hundred and.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Fifty foot still boat.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, I'll announcing you you'll be back in six weeks.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I'll start wearing the hat all the time Paris.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
That's a must.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
You can always go pirate, eye patch, peg leg hook
for a hand. Probably the eye patch is the easiest.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Well, I guess that's it. I would say it is
I thought that was the starboard. One more thing, I'm
strong and getty.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
One more thing, did you say starbursts starboard as opposed
to ports. We will get to my sailing lessons here
in a little bit. It's right, I'm taking sailing lessons.
That's not something I thought I would ever.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Say in my life. I was going to bring this up.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Joe and I were on a meeting yesterday, a zoom
meeting with a whole bunch of people for a client,
and everybody on there but us was in their twenties,
early thirties. They were pretty young.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, the almost everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, anyway, Kate, I thought this was interesting and maybe
you can relate to it since you're young. Joe and
I are because of our schedule and everything like that
and our personalities. We both won luckily, very rarely have
to go to meetings to be able to have a
career in life, and go to like one meeting of
year is pretty awesome, and then and then neither one
(00:59):
of us like them to last very long.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Fair.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, I don't know anybody who likes a nice long meeting, well,
I'll tell you.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
And yet most of them turn into that.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yes, because it really only takes one person in a
slight position of authority to drag it out anyway. So
we're on the Zoom call yesterday with a whole bunch
of twenty somethings, talked about the business we were going
to do. I don't know how many minutes. It was
in very minutes, and then somebody said, is that about it?
Can we wrap it up? And yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
And it was over. It was over. And I texted Joe.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I said, if there had been one fifty five year
old salesperson on that, we would still be talking right now.
The younger generation has no interest in just sitting around
in a meaning jabberin.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Is it because they're so awkward communicating in person to people?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I mean, if that's it, I'm encouraging you.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I didn't get that sense from this crowd.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I think it's just a they don't They just don't
do the niceties. And maybe that's a bad thing. I
don't know, but they didn't feel any need. Joe and
I've sensed over the years there's a certain belief, especially
by whoever called the meeting, it can't get over too
quick or that kind of like makes it seem like
we shouldn't have had a meeting, I mean.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Or it's not respectful to just come in, take care
of stuff and leave. Now, in some cultures that would
be incredibly disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Cultures will do no small talk, no chat.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
No, you would never do that.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Cultures like some of the most successful businesses on earth,
both Elon Musk and Steve Jobs, very famous for barely
having any meetings, and when they have them, they're.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Quick, right, Steve Jobs famously nobody's allowed to sit down.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Or was it we're gonna check the boxes and go.
I don't remember if his Musk or Jobs, but it
was always can this be an email when somebody would
talk about a meeting? Yeah, which I've often wondered, how
many meetings have you been to where you thought this
could have been a group email so easily?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Well, and for what it's worth, just getting back to
that video conference, I emerged from it thinking, boy, those
people are really sharp and good at their jobs.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
The efficient it was not, And of course, you know,
getting back to our personalities, you know, the one thing
that dawned on me crystal clear early in our careers
where we did have to go to a fair number
of meetings was the great divide between people whose job
is accomplishing something and people whose job is being somewhere
(03:25):
for a set amount of time and maybe they accomplished something,
because you know the nature of our thing is we
just we work until we can't stand to work anymore,
and we try to do a good show and get
rating and blah blah blah. But if you're leaving at five,
no matter how much you've gotten done, or whether you've
worked hard or just coasted or whatever, you're going to
(03:46):
prolong that meeting as long as you possibly can.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It might be the best part of your day.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Oh yeah, exactly, sit around chatting with coworkers and laughing
and you're not focused, you're not working or anything.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
It was always that sort of person who prolonged the meeting. Meanwhile,
a lot of the salespeople like had to sell to
survive or like, can we get out of here please?
The good ones.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Anyway, I remember being in a meeting this had to
have been like twelve years ago, and one of the
guys who I was talking to, and when I'm saying
a meeting, I was the youngest person in this room
by like twenty five years. Everybody in there was probably
fifty five or above, and it was being run by
somebody in their seventies.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And I was talking to the guy and.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
He was like, I think these people are still back
in the day where we couldn't just like text somebody
or email somebody or question after the meeting, so everybody
felt like they had to get it out right then.
And I thought that was kind of an interesting element,
because yeah, a lot of us it's like, okay, oh,
I'll ask Like if I have a.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Question, I'll just ask him later.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I used to always say, and I still believe it.
I've been to like two meetings in my life that
needed to happen. It couldn't have been a phone call
or an email. No, oh boy, do you think there's
a go ahead?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I was just gonna say, I try to be honest
about what is what seems to me to be right
or good or better, just because of being something of
an introvert. And I don't like small talk. I don't
like pretending to be chummy with people apparently you know,
and other people are not made that way, Like you know,
(05:20):
we have friends, I'll keep it vake who are like
way down the road of being individualists who don't need
like any associations and friends and support and whatever. And
it's a blind spot because they don't understand. No, like
eighty five percent of the population is not made that way,
So the way you see the world is never going
(05:42):
to work. And I try to be you know, fair
about that, because there are people who are energized and
given joy by being in a meeting for a longer
time because they're with other people.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
That explains that part of it. But does it explain
why a company that's is to make a certain amount
of money and then make more of the next quarter
allows that do that in your own time?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah? Yeah, in your social life.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I think it's because most people are introverts and introvert
I'm sorry, are extroverts and extroverts think their normal and
introverts are weird.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Before we move on to Port and Starboard, Katie is
the youngest person there. Does it make any sense to
you our idea that if there had been one older
person there it would have lasted twice as long.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I didn't want to say it, but yeah, probably, yep.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I think the young crowds like we're done.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
It's always the old guy when they say does anybody
have any questions that decides to stand up and say, yeah,
I have a question, And then everybody looks at him
and says.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You know, my favorite thing in any meeting, my favorite
thing of all is the person that comes in late
and then asks skoshed about something that was already covered,
and then they covered again for everybody else that's already
heard it.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Right, Everybody kind.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Of looks around awkwardly for a minute, then bunches into
it again. Have the confidence, America humanity to say we
covered that before you got there. We can talk after
the amount of time that doesn't effing happen. It makes
me insane, It makes me militant. They are like crimes
against humanity that pissed me off less than when the
moderator of a meeting just looks around like, well, there's
(07:20):
nothing else I can do but waste everybody else's time
by repeating all this.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So here we go. God, I want to assault people. Okay,
so I'll keep this brief.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Since the last the lessons actually didn't happen, So I
signed up for these sailing lessons and I was all excited.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Three things rum sodomy and the lash. The worst of
those are the three things that kept order in the
British Navy. And if they're good enough for the Great
British Navy, they're good enough for your sailboat jack.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
The disappointing thing was, even though the teacher didn't show up,
I still got scurvy. I thought I could avoid it,
and I got buggered.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Another day, another buggery.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
So I live next to this little man made lake
and they people sail on it, and they were doing lessons,
and I thought one I've always kind of wanted.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I'm not really into boats, but I've always liked the
idea of sailing, just because it's so ancient and the
way human beings, you know, got out of their continents
and traveled the world. AnyWho, I thought it tacked these
little sailing lessons, and I thought maybe because they got
the boats there. We live right next to the little lake,
they got the boats there. If I learn how to
do this, maybe Henry and I could go out and
(08:36):
start doing that. Maybe good bah bah bah love it
another thing for a kid to learn how to do. Unfortunately,
somehow they missed my email or whatever, and nobody else
signed up for the class. So the instructor didn't think
there was anybody for the class. So I wear it
around for a while. The instructor didn't show up, But
in two weeks I'm going to do it. What I
find funny is it's a two hour class, two days
in a row, so Saturday and Sunday noon to two,
(08:58):
and then they give you a certificate.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I don't know how the certificate is gonna certificate of
what a certificate of?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
You have completed the four our class with this person
at this little lake, with this boat.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Say for the ocean.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Well, now you can present that certificate at the security
card for the ocean. Tell no, this is fine, I'm certified.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Exactly who do I show this certificate too? And in
what circumstance?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Sail around the world and then show them your certificate?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Jack, you got a frame?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Yo yo, yo, yo yo. You you can't just walk
in this marina and grab a boat at.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Oh oh, you have the certificate.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I'm sorry, sir, help yourself, yes, sir, or.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Perhaps I get some of those Somali pirates. I'm the coptain.
Now I just show them my certificate and it's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Now, you famously refuse to don short pants and you're
always wearing Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I'm swim gear because that's special jeans that you swim. Oh,
like we're in Florida.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I got swim trunks and a swim shirt and something
to cover my head because if I'm out there for
two hours, man, their opportunity to get burnt really exists.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Are they jorts? They're not jeorts?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
But and do you have rubber sold cowboy boots since
you usually wear cowboy boats? Address I do, otherwise you'll
slip and crack your head open.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Well.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
I was there the other day lifting weights and I
saw one of the I saw some kids out there
on one of the sailboats and it flipped over in
the water, and so I went into the office. I said, Hey,
the sailboat just flipped over it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Is that something to be worried about it? And they said,
now they teach you in that in the class, you
flip over the sailboat on purpose to show you how
to get it back upright again and everything like that.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I thought, Okay, so I will be getting wet, I guess.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
But of course, because of the way I am, having
not even taken the classes yet, I'm on Facebook marketplace,
shopping for sailboats and planning giant.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Excursions and all this sort of.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Exactly having not even gotten on this twelve foot sail
boat in a man made lake with no wind.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Well, there's a guy who went on a long screen
about the evils of TV and how he should give
it up, then showed up with the biggest TV I've
ever seen in my life. Two days later, I could
see you like buying one hundred and.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Fifty foot still boat.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, I'll announcing you you'll be back in six weeks.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I'll start wearing the hat all the time Paris.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
That's a must.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
You can always go pirate, eye patch, peg leg hook
for a hand. Probably the eye patch is the easiest.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Well, I guess that's it. I would say it is
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