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September 4, 2025 36 mins

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  • more on the US military strike on the Venezuelan drug boat...
  • The kickoff of the new NFL season...
  • HHS Sec. Robert Kennedy Jr faces the Senate heat.  

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Arm Strong and Gatty and he Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Tonight's speculation mounting over whether Taylor Swift will perform at
the Super Bowl. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell saying maybe when
asked about it, referring questions to jay Z, the show's producer,
Stay tuned.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
I love that David Vier uses as serious foot I know, stuff.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Like using the same voice as he uses for hamas Israel.
Talk about Taylor Swift, whether or not she'll be the
super Bowl. I like the way Goodell handlet Yes, she
could be. I don't know. Jay Z's producing, that's him.
The super Bowl is this year, seventy miles from my
house at Levi Stadium. I'm gonna go commit to going

(01:02):
no matter who's in it, because I've never been to
a super Bowl, and I've always wanted to have the
experience just to talk about, like on the show and
everything like that. So I'm going to commit to going
this year. I love that idea great idea. One way
or another, I'm gonna figure it out. Speaking of the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Why are the Eagles so good and have stayed good
and are going to be great again this year?

Speaker 2 (01:20):
It's because then a counting trick we can tell you about.
And with the season starting tonight, who does Vegas think
are the best locks for being in the Super Bowl?
We'll hate you with those odds. Excellent. So I came
across the Wall Street Journal's editorial board writing about, as
the headline puts it, Trump's gun boat war on drugs,

(01:42):
the blowing up of that Narco boat and it's eleven
crew members the other day, and we were talking about
it yesterday in case you missed it, and how it's
interesting as his maneuvers go, because you know, there's not
the death penalty for transporting drugs, but we blew that
boat out of the water. And before we get to

(02:03):
the Wall Street Journal, let's see a couple of notes.
First of all, listen, let me throw in a couple
of the facts from Marco Rubio that might be helpful
before the people start replying to what happened. Secretary Start
Market Groupe, Secretary of State, Marco Rubio. We're not in
a hurry. We have four hours. I don't have to
fit all the words into one sentence in one second.

(02:26):
Marco Rubio said yesterday that Trump chose to destroy it.
We could have arrested him, but Trump decided to instead
of interdicting it on the president's orders. We blew it
up and it'll happen again. Rubio said yesterday, Ah, interesting, Yeah,
and he said that the vessel, like others carrying drugs,
posed an immediate threat to the United States, which gave

(02:48):
the United States the right to destroy it. The president
has a right to eliminate immediate threats to our country.
The President's not a talker, he's a doer, and he's
going to do it. Rubio argued the strike was justified
because use anytime we just stopped stopped drug smuggling boats,
it yields in sufficient results. It hasn't worked Cartel's factor
in a two percent loss from interdictions, he said, arguing

(03:10):
that drug seizures won't stop them. What will stop them
is if you blow them up. The president, the president
is going to wage war on narco terrorist organizations.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
I need to get that on a T shirt. What
will stop them is if you blow them up. Yeah,
I'm not sure I'd buy all of his argument. There
are flaws there and assumptions, but I like the maneuver,
and I thought I didn't know what the Wall Street
Journal board, which side of this they would weigh in on.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
And I was very very curious in reading it.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
And long story short is they're like, yeah, it's kind
of interesting. For the reasons we mentioned, you could go
aboard for search and seizure, making arrest for a trial
little later date.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
That's the way civilized countries do things, to mister Trump's critics,
but Venezuelan coppos don't follow the Marcus of Queensbury rules,
and the US does not have to refrain from sending
them a more convincing kinetic message. Wow. And speaking of
facts that ought to be known, they point out that
in Venezuela, the transnational criminal cartels, in their range of

(04:21):
grizzly businesses which include kidnapping, extortion, human trafficking, and murder
lots and lots of murder, are also the tools of
the Maduro dictatorship. Maduro uses the cartels and that stuff
to repress the population, gives them impunity for their organized crime,
profits from them, and in fact, the Maduro regime owns

(04:44):
the cartel. The Cartel delos Sules or Cartel of the
Suns named for get this, the Insignia Venezuelan generals earn
as they move up in rank. Wow, it's like if
a the branch of the mafia referred to themselves as
the four star Mafia because all the generals in our

(05:06):
army were in on it. That's all interesting, but it's
not supposed to be. According to a lot of us,
our role to determine that that country's leadership sucks, so
we should play a role in overthrowing it or hurting them.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
I'm sorry, we're not supposed to do that. Well, according
to whom you innocent boy, come on anyway. So the
US is designating to a foreign terrorist group and it's
known to run cocaine operations from coca leaf to distribution
on the American streets. They're in league with Trendy Arragua,

(05:41):
and beyond drugs, they specialize in extortion, human trafficking. Is
there evil, evil, violent scumbags?

Speaker 2 (05:47):
I don't doubt it. But man, there's lots of evil
scumbags around the world, and we don't and we got
to kill them all. Are you against that? We don't bris, Larry,
We don't drone all of them. I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna lose it any minute. I Am not going
to lose any sleep over these eleven people that got
obliterated on their drug boat. At all. Of all the

(06:07):
things I got to worry about, this is way way
down the list. But it seems like if you're going
to go with bringing drugs into the United States counts
as a death penalty threat, where we can just drone
you out of nowhere. Can't you expand that to a
bunch of different stuff. Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Possibly, And that was the part of the Rubio argument
that I wasn't buying.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Do you have that in front of you still? It
was the very first part. Okay, and this was in
Mexico yesterday when he said this. He did it again.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
I just I don't like bad arguments, even if I
agree with the policy.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
US forces could have stopped the boat that officials say
was carrying illegal drugs from Venezuela, according to Marco Rubio,
but President Donald Trump chose and said to destroy it,
killing eleven people instead of interdicting it on the president's orders.
We blew it up and it'll happen again. When asked
if they warned the crew, Rubio said, the best, like
other carrying drugs, posed an immediate threat to the United States,

(07:03):
giving the country the right to destroy it. Yeah, that's
that's the rub right there, in immediate indirect weeks later, probably.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
When the drugs got distributed on the streets. Threat that
might kill people.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
That might kill people, right, or it might just make
them really high, so they hang over at the waist
on the streets of Seattle, drooling from the mouth and
ruining their lives. These people are evil and horrible. And
as we're discussing yesterday, if somebody does precisely the same
things as say, an Islamist extremist organization, they kill, they maim,

(07:41):
they bomb, but they're doing it in the name of profit,
like the cartels, or control like Maduro in league with
the cartels. Terrorist isn't the right name for them. But
in terms of moral, legal justifytion for snuffing them, I'm

(08:02):
pretty comfortable with it. Well, I don't want to sound
like I'm on the that I'm really concerned about this,
because I'm not. But the Islamo fascists their goal is
to kill people. I would assume the drug dealer's goal
is not to kill people. They would love it if
you all stayed alive and get buying their drugs. So
their intent isn't to kill people like the Islama fashions is.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Yeah, but what if it is reckless endangerment the size
of Mount everest fully knowing that what they do will
kill It's not their intent per se, but it's the
inevitable result, and they know it sure well, clearly this
administration decided, Yeah, that counts for us. Also, as I

(08:43):
mentioned yesterday, and again, we don't want China to set
the standard. But you think China allows other countries to
mess with China if they can stop it. If anybody
who's sending anything into China that she didn't like, they
would freaking destroy them.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Obviously, right, right?

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Have we gotten a little too sweet and gentle and
principled to survive as a republic. That's actually a question
worth asking. It's kind of uncomfortable for an American to
ask that question because that's sort of right to kill
people because well, they're a danger well the world.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
But that's always abused. The world is heading toward uglier,
not more peaceful.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
A couple more notes. We got some emails this from
some connection of letters. Once again, you've not done the research.
I will enlighten you.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
I like the tone. I like the tone right off
the bat. Oh it gets better. Please read the DoD
Department of Defense Law of Law of War Manual, Chapters
ten and eleven provides the authority. By the way, yes,
before you go further, i'd like anybody who didn't hear.
So this person's responding to what we said yesterday. And
if you weren't listening, yesterday, we had a discussion just

(09:58):
like we did. Now we we're going back and forth
and neither one of us are sure. So this person's
responding to us having a discussion where I don't know,
you know, maybe this may be that it's not like
we came off hardcore one way or the other.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
And testing each other's arguments, because that's what you do.
For instance, and I've said this many times, if you
send us an email and say, guys, I think you
miss this because it's really important we remember blah blah blah,
that's not insulting or hurtful.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
You've done me a favor. You've helped me form a
better argument. And so we were going back and forth
just as we were trying to think. All right, where
do we come down on this? Anyway? So, once again
you've not done the research. I will enlighten you. Please
read the DoD Department of Defense Law War Manual, Chapters
ten eleven. It provides the authorities and duties of our President,
Donald J. Trumpe in times of war. We are at war, guys.

(10:51):
I don't I know you two may not believe it,
but martiall law was declared in his first term. Okay,
so we're question the question of when we are actually
at war? Given the Constitution, Congress is right to declare war,
military opp special military opera, police actions, blah blah blah.
Is a decades, practically centuries long fascinating conversations that Americans

(11:15):
have had. But you, my friend, have figured all of
that out. And anybody who doesn't is a stupid idiot
who should be lectured. I congratulate you on your solemnnic wisdom,
you mouthy prig. I shouldn't I retract that I aspologize?

(11:35):
So which war is he referring to the war on terror?
The war are on drugs. But that's not a war
on worduro. The war on drugs is a rhetorical war.
The war on terror is an actual war, is it? Well,
there is the uh that Armed Forces Agreement thing that
got passed after nine to eleven that they use for
every attack on any country in the world for the

(11:56):
last quarter century. But at least that's legislation. There's no
military legislation about a war on drugs that I'm aware of.
That was just verbiage, like the war on cancer. On
I don't really.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Even want to talk about it anymore because it's impossible
to come to an answer of whether we are in fact,
quote unquote at war with these people unless you're this
guy who knows it with certainty.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
And then are you gonna use his logic the war
on drugs? You could? You could drone strike Nestley because
chocolate has sugar in it and leads to more cancer.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Or obliterate immigrants as they line up at the border, right,
I mean, if we have a war on immigration or whatever,
let's see. I found this interesting from Byron Watch for
Maduro his next movie. He'll begin placing innocence on his
drug boats, whether for real or simple statements suggesting that
they've been placed, a simple way to draw soft heads
into a rebellious position against Trump's attempt to well do

(12:58):
what he's obviously doing.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Is opening move yesterday was to say it's fake. It
was ai it didn't actually happen. Byron sums up with
to hell with the soft heads, grow a pair and
realize what the face of war looks like? Well again
the war? Who are we on war with? At work?

Speaker 4 (13:14):
So harden up your head, grow some testicles, do the research,
and read the DoD Law War Manual, Chapters ten and eleven.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Man, I got a busy afternoon, so I'll have a
really hard head and two sets of testicles. I don't
know if that's gonna help my life. Oh, like you
already have a nobody that believes that, shild Okay, Well,
I'm to talk a little bit about the NFL season
and a couple other things. Stay tuned. Hey do you

(13:48):
see this? A c Span announced that they will start
streaming on YouTube TV and Hulu. People who watch YouTube
TV and Hulu are like, what the hell is he span? Well,
people who watch sea Span are like, what the hell
is YouTube t It's a good point we're gonna talk about.
We're gonna break down the NFL season coming up. We

(14:09):
all actually, what the Vegas odds are for Uh, who
do they think are going to be the best teams? Excellent?
And uh and I'm not gonna go. I'm gonna go
to the super Bowl this year, So I'm looking into that.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Young men of America. Does it seem like all the
chicks you know are on drugs? It's because they probably are,
but not like the drugs, drugs we used to enjoy
back in the day. Uh, they're all on beta blockers.
Specifically this drug pro proanolo.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Ask for by name.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
It looks like pro pro pranolol. That's how you've probably pronounced.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Is that what Michael Jackson took to get to sleep? No,
that was the milk, silly? Which one was that?

Speaker 4 (14:48):
That was?

Speaker 3 (14:50):
What?

Speaker 2 (14:50):
What? What is this drug women are taking? What do
they take it for? It's a beta blocker originally developed
for dealing with cardiovascular disease. It lowers your heart rate
and your blood pressure, and it can reduce the physical
symptoms of anxiety, although it is not approved by the

(15:11):
FDA for that. I wish Katie was hero, but she
knows all about that. Yeah, so it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
This article opens up with as Erica's Fisher's Erica Fisher's
nuptials approach. She's trying to decide should she take a
beta blocker before she walks down the aisle.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
You're going to drug yourself at your wedding. You're going
to drug yourself at your wedding because you don't want
to feel the feelings that a company getting married. Some
of them completely natural that everybody's had throughout history.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Which is my objection to a lot of this, honestly,
is well, Well, they talk about how loads and loads
of people are taking this. Most people take it situationally.
Musicians and actors, for instance, have long relied on beta blockers,
like pro pronologue.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
That's funny because I was just about to say, there
are things you're suppose You're supposed to be anxious before
the game starts, before you walk on stage. That's the
normal reaction. That's what gets you all geared up to
perform so or your wedding day or whatever. So people
are taking drugs to not have the normal human reaction. Well,
that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
And they talk about Robert Downey Junior during the twenty
twenty four Golden Globe said I took a beta blocker,
So this is going to be a breeze, and at
this year's Academy Awards, actress Rachel Sinot's red carpet advice
was take that beta blocker, girl, swallow it down and
lock it in, and their sound bite became sort of
a rallying cry for women who report experiencing anxiety disorders

(16:42):
at higher rates than men.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Now, I can see that it would be helpful if,
for whatever reason, you have paralyzing anxiety at the idea
of just walking into work or something like that. But
but for things that are you know, legit anxious, you know,
and events that are gonna make you anxious, why would
you want to block that?

Speaker 4 (17:03):
I could name a couple of like, truly gifted musicians
who stopped performing because they were so miserable they couldn't
walk out on stage.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Miles Davis used to throw up before he'd play he
gets so nervous. Mmm, I do that before every show?

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Should I guess?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Armstrong and Getty? Well, listen, we've got to do this.
Let me hear you all saying he ow ge s meggs,
let's go birds. We enjoyed that last year's Timeless when

(17:45):
it was the Eagles were going to be in the
Super Bowl, which a lot of people predict they will
be again. And they played tonight against the Dallas Cowboys
to kick off the NFL football season. They're supposed to
be really good again. Would say, are they so good?
And how do they last?

Speaker 4 (18:01):
How they continue to be so good? You want me
to talk about that here?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Why not? All right? I'm kind of interested in that.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
It's an accounting trick essentially that everybody can do, but
the Eagles do it way more than others for reasons
I will trot out in a moment or two. It's
the basic formula has to do with the salary cap.
Every dollar paid to a player has to be accounted
for on the team's books. But you can get creative
on when that cost hits. And so what they're doing

(18:30):
now is they add dummy or void years at the
end of a player's contract. They might be on the
team or not, they might be retired or not, but
they have these dummy years at the end, and they
spread the bonus money out along the entire structure of

(18:50):
the contract, the entire entire time of the contract.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Here's how it works.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
When you sign a contract, two primary components your salary
and your bonuses.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
The salary counts. Again, it's the cap for the year
it's paid, obviously, but the hit from a signing bonus
is spread over the length of a contract, which is
then super stretched by these dummy years. I mean, in
the case of how did you have that handy wow,
And in the case of Jalen Hurts, I want to

(19:19):
make sure I get this right. He's one of the
highest paid quarterbacks, highest paid athletes in the history of
the world. But his salary is the NFL minimum. Wow.
Okay for a player of his years, but he has
a ginormous signing bonus. Okay, that's pretty interesting. And the
NBA's got its own scandal going on if you haven't

(19:41):
seen that in the last twenty four hours, one of
the best players in all of the NBA, Kawhi Leonard,
he's got like a reasonable salary even though he's one
of the best players. It turns out he they crafted
some sort of deal where the twe he's getting twenty
five million dollars from a local endorsement. That and the

(20:02):
team kind of figured out a way to do the
accounting where the money goes to that endorser who's paying him,
so it doesn't show up as a salary cap. So
they learned from the Philadelphia Eagles that you come up
with the counting tricks because you if you had if
you if you didn't have various salary caps, the richest
team would usually win, usually not always, but usually win.

(20:24):
Yeah enough to want to make them want to go
ahead and do it. I will quibble.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
The Kawhi Leonard thing is just flat cheating. This is
something everybody can do and does openly. But you have
to have an owner who's willing to part with enormous
amounts of cash up front. And also much like the
United States government say, well, what the.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Hell's gonna happen when we've got all of this stuff,
all these obligations pile up in seven or eight years.
You gotta have an owner who says, I don't care,
let's just win a Super Bowl. I'm surprised that doesn't
happen more often. Where you got the billionaire owners like
Paul Allen and the Portland trail billers, the Portland team
where they just have so much money that you know

(21:08):
you're over the salary caps. You have to pay the penalty.
I don't care what I care, Yeah, I want to
win I'm surprised that doesn't happen more often, but it
has been proven over and over at the Yankees and
the Dodgers and different teams that haven't the most expensive
payroll doesn't guarantee you win it all. It gives you
much better shot. Obviously. By the way, Philadelphia is tied

(21:30):
in Vegas for the best odds of winning the Super
Bowl again with the Baltimore Ravens. So the Baltimore Ravens
and the Eagles both have the two best odds according
to Vegas, who is often very right, followed by your Packers,
your Lions. Then you get down to your Chiefs and Bills.
Those are the teams with the best options. Although as

(21:53):
we pointed out yesterday, there's no way to factor in injuries,
and that always plays a huge role because in this sport,
some star players are going to get really hurt.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
What size, it's a different team six weeks into the season.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
What sucks is if you root for a team that
the ownership doesn't actually care about trying to win. I
mean they're running it as a business rather than as
like a fan who wants to have the best team.
And the Dallas Cowboys who played tonight America's team. There
are more Dallas Cowboys fans than anybody. Troikman called out

(22:29):
Jerry Jones, the owner, for clearly not being set on winning,
at least in the immediate future, as they traded away
their very best player over the summer, and then another
player just like last week, one of their top players.
So they're just and then that's tough when you're a fan,
and you know that because there are other teams that
are hell bent on winning all the time.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Speaking of tough, I think we're all really excited looking
forward to the release of ESPN and Spike Lee's Colin
Kaepernick documentary series.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
I know I was.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
I was gonna watch every minute of it, but it
has been quashed. It has been dropped because, according to
his statement, ESPN, Colin Kaepernick Spike Leeve collectively decided to
no longer proceed with this project as a result is
certain creative differences. In essence, Kaepernick hated what Spike Lee
was doing, Spike Lee hated what ESPN was doing. ESPN

(23:20):
couldn't stand Colin Kaepernick, and nobody could agree on anything,
and so they just said to hell with it and
buried it.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Hey, where is the game tonight Philadelphia. Doubts not where
they're playing, but he no, But where do you find
it to watch it? Can you look that up Michael
while I'm talking. Maybe it's on ESPN. I don't know,
but I know this year it's going to be harder
to find your your games, and in some case you
might not have the channel that is carrying the game
of your favorite team, and you're gonna have to pay
more for it. And that's just what the future of

(23:46):
everything is becoming. Obviously, I had another football thing is
going to throw out their persis. Oh so you told
us not that long ago that they outlawed the tush push, right,
the fact that the Eagles have the most big giant asses.
They can't do that anymore. Uh yeah, I think that
was the ruling, right, So being the team with the
biggest asses is no longer. It's not the size of

(24:07):
their asses that's fundamental to the success. You're a non fan.
You sound like a chick.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Oh that was sexist, and I apologize deeply. There are
many women who are hardcore sports fans and they have
my respect.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Showing it on ABC right now, the toush push, the
big giant asses pushing everybody over and then not the ass.
It's the push that's the problem anyway, It's not the
relative size of their glutes. So they they they they
they outlawn that though, right, yes, okay, so now because
it's dangerous and it's impossible to stop, and we talked
about that. When they so are smaller, ashed teams will

(24:43):
have shot. Okay, yes, Michael, you have the switch for
his microphone. Michael, you know what? Yeah, where do I
find out now? NBC tonight, NBC. Okay, it's on a
regular network that I get. Don't have to pay extra.
I don't have to go find it on like Amazon
three and pay forty dollars a month to have it
or something.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
This one's on BritBox. You have to be subscribed to
Paramount and then the BBC to watch the Kings.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
All right, come on. It is by far the number
one TV show in America, though I remember at the
end of last year, I think nineteen at the top
twenty shows were all NFL games, maybe a presidential debate
in there or something. So in terms of everybody, in
terms of a community thing that people watch, this is

(25:32):
about the last of it. Yes, yes, I would like
anybody who has any tips about going to the Super
Bowl to email or text, because I am going to
commit to going this year since it's at Levi Stadium
in San Francisco Santa Clair, not that far from where
I live. Because the travel. One of the things always

(25:54):
stopped me from going is the travel, because he got
to travel there, and you got to get a hotel,
and that adds many, many more thousands of dollars. If
I can have that, Since it's not that far from
my house, I'm just a freaking get a ticket and
figure out a way to get there. But I just
still think it. I was talking to some of the
other day who's gone to many Super Bowls, and they
would They said it cost many tens of thousands of

(26:14):
dollars each time. They went, Wow, that's a lot. Wow
to see your favorite team play a football game. Yeah,
guess why.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
I'd be tempted to just stand around the stadium, wait
for the game to start and see if anybody wants
to give them away.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
You know, I have scalped tickets for a lot of
supposedly you can't get a ticket events in my life.
I don't know if that works for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Or not though, right, Yeah, I've I've just failed completely
once at that.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, I think me too. No tickets, but I think
me too. And I went to a bar across the
street and watch it on TV. Now that's perfectly fine.
Ruined my life.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
Yeah, yeah, I'm mostly different about going to the super
Bowl because the actual experience washing the game is so
much better at home.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Did you go to a Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 (27:02):
No? I was going to, but yeah, the tickets yanked
away from me in Ah.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
I remember that story, and it was your team that
was playing. I almost would like it better to go
on a year where I don't care who wins than
if I got a super routing interest. But I don't know.
I don't know. If you know anything about that, text
or email please, I would like that. Of course, if
it's going to cost many tens of thousands of dollars,
I better get my financial life together. And one way
to do that would be to have a trust and will.

(27:29):
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Speaker 2 (28:27):
The amount of betting that goes on around the NFL,
in terms of legal and illegal wagering, is just insane.
I was listening to the numbers this morning and it's
a growing thing. It still is growing more and more
people every year that are that get into that and
enjoy it. So that's its own kind of side sport.
I've never done that, but for some people, that's what

(28:48):
the NFL season brings, is all the fun of the betting.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Yeah, I'll spice it up depending on your preferences. So
we ought to talk about Florida moving toward to end
vaccine mandates for school children at some point.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I'm not sure I want to, but we certainly can.
And that looks like that's actually going to happen.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah. DeSantis is on board with it,
as is his surgeon general. I'm kind of surprised by that.
I am too. I am too, So it's probably worth
talking about.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Plus an update on modern warfare number one military analyst
and expert analyzing what was on display in China's big
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(29:39):
We got all that on the way. Stay here.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
We bring you the scintillating and revealing discussion between incredibly
annoying Oregon Senator Ron Wyden and RFK junior Senator.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
I didn't politicize. There's Congress, but he's all.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
Over the country, mister secretary, scientists and doctors are saying otherwise.
They're all wrong too, They're all lying.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
According to you, a scientist, doctors are supporting me all
over the country. Oh there is division on opinion.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
I don't I don't get letters from thousands of people
who are not political saying that this set of changes
is going to damage American healthcare and particularly these healthcare
agencies for decades to come.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
I don't get any.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
Letters, so I'll say, Oh, they're going to make a
big difference forever.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
And maybe you're listening to a selective group of people.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
You get, you get me.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
And I will find I will tell you what Senator got.
I will put my mail bag against your mail bag.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
I got a day way thirty seconds, you know, and
we ought to use that clip before mailbag every morning.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Hanson an hour one of the show. I don't want you.
I don't want to watch you two guys put your
mail bags against each other. But it's not his fault.
I realize whatever happened with his voice RFK Junior, I
find impossible to listen to just because of his voice.
I just I can't. It's so distracting, and I just ah. Anyway,

(31:17):
a doctor friend of mine texted, so we're gonna get
into the whole. Looks like Florida is gonna do way
with the mandates for vaccines for school. Wow, entirely. I
thought they would just narrow it down to like the
Big ten or something like that of the stuff that
everybody agrees on. But they're just gonna do it away
with mandates. But anyway, a doctor friend of mine texted,

(31:38):
there are now seventy two vaccines required from birth to
age eighteen. Seventy two vaccines you get between birth and eighteen.
That seems like a lot. Yeah, are all of those
strictly necessary? Can't be? It's impossible that they are. I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
And it's also of those boosters or that's a lot
of shots.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
It's a lot of shots, I know. I was always
said during COVID's It just it just strange credulity to
think that when there are billions and billions of dollars
on the line for somebody to check the box. Yes,
let's make this mandated, as opposed to know that, right,
that doesn't play a role. Right.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
There are some childhood diseases that are mostly just annoying.
But you know, as long as you get in seventy shots,
how about let's have another one in a booster. Seventy
two billions of dollars will change hands. Yeah, I agree.
And as we were discussing earlier, having utterly shredded their credibility, Yeah,

(32:44):
during and after COVID, the CDC and the other you know,
vaunted institutes of health, a lot of people are either
neutral or negative about hearing what they have to say
about anything.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah. Did we make it clear that are RFK Junior
is being questioned by a committee right now as we speak,
and we'll have more highlights from that if there are any.
But part of RFK Junior's opening statement was the CDC
lied about all kinds of things during COVID. Why do
you believe them now? Yeah, well, fair enough.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
That's why you don't want to chuck your credibility if
you can avoid it. So, Florida is proposing to eliminate
all vaccine mandates, including for school children. It would make
it the first state in the US to end immunization requirements.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
That doesn't sound very rond desantasy.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
It does not. His Surgeon general and I should have
asked for this audio because the Surgeon General, Joseph Vlatipoe,
who I'm sure is a fine fellow and a fine physician,
goes a bit al Sharpton on us with every la

(33:54):
is talking about the vaccine directives issued by.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Or a Department of health. Every last one of them
is wrong and drips with disdain and slavery. Who am I,
as a government or anyone else, is a man standing
here now to tell you what you should put in
your body? Yeah, the drop.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Outfits safely and effectively eliminates deadly childhood diseases and protects
other children from getting it.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Okay, well, and then just don't be using the slavery
thing as a don't disdain and slavery. See, yeah, no
it doesn't. We're throwing out that. Probably the most libertarian
the government has no right doing anything person I know

(34:42):
in my life is Tim Sanderfer, and he's fully on
board with mandates for various vaccines because of the way
it affects the overall population.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
Right on the other hand, having shredded their credibility and
perhaps over required an unreasonable number of vaccinations, here we are.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Anyway, on a slightly different topic, watch the hearings today.
If you're into politics, an interesting subplot is what's Bill
Cassidy going to say, the Louisiana Republican senator who's a
highly respected physician, he's a liver expert of all things.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
But he was one of two I.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Can't remember how many senators Republican senators voted to convict
Trump over the January sixth attacks. But since then he's
been quite a loyal supporter of Trump's programs and policies
and that sort of thing. And so they have a
detant and he's running for re election I think is
it next year? And there's been a ceasefire between Trump

(35:57):
and Senator Cassidy. And if he goes too hard after
RFK Junior, what will that mean politically? And also, because
Cassidy's a smart guy and a respected and caring doctor,
I'd like to know what tack he takes.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Even more than that, he was a holdout vote and
they needed all the Republican votes to get RFK Junior approved.
He was a holdout vote and got RFK Junior to
swear that he would not go anti vaccine if he
got the job. And RFK Junior's gone pretty anti vaccine.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Yeah, and both he and Susan Collins in particular have said, hey,
he has not done what he promised me he would do, so.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
This could be interesting. Yeah, and we'll bring it to
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