April 28, 2025 • 15 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you're going to pay attention to one completely stupid
thing this year, don't make it this.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's one more thing, one more thing.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Joe and I disagree on this because I take it
further than he does. We went to We went to
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland because
that's where the twenty sixteen Republican Convention was when Trump
was nominated. I'm surprised I never traveled to Cleveland on
vacation just to go to the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame, because I always wanted to do. I found
it extraordinarily underwhelming. Like if I had gone there on
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vacation and that had been it, I would have been.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Very disappointed that I spent my money that way.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I found it thoroughly amusing and entertaining in a way
that was fine for a couple of hours, and I
have no intention of ever going back. So I liked
it more than you did. But you know, I grew
up a rock guy, so you know not that it
is anymore.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
It wasn't my not caring about music that was it.
I just thought it was just underwhelming all the way around.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
But you didn't like seeing Keith Richards pants now small.
They were Joe Strummer's telecaster. Come on from the clash,
Come on.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
So we're gonna do the twenty twenty five inductees have
been named Joe's gonna hit us with that here in
a second. But it's opened in eighty three. First class
was nominated in eighty six. Off the top of your head,
named me. Some of the.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
First class should be pretty easy to do. First Class of.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
The rock and Chuck Berry Stone no Beatles, no Stones, No, no, what.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Berry gotta be No Beatles? Shut up? Who was in
the top? Oh, it was like all.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Your pioneering people, right, Yeah, I don't remember. I've seen
the Listen.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Elvis, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Fats Domino, James Brown, Sam Cook,
Everley Brothers, Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee Lewis.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
There's only one person that's been in there three times.
Who's that got that off the top.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Paul McCartney.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
That's a pretty good guess. He is in there twice.
All the Beatles we got in there as Beatles and
then as solo artists.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Ringo got in the Hall of Fame as a solo artist.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And Wings didn't make it in I'm surprised by that.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I'm surprised. It's Eric Clapton.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Eric Clapton is in three times. And that's about it.
And that's about how exciting the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame is. This little conversation you just heard, that's
about as exciting as the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
One day, the city fathers and mothers of Cleveland, Ohio
said to themselves, we need more tourism. What are we
known for?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Crappiness? Somebody suggested, No, that's no good. We can't have
a crap hall of fame. The fact that.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Alan Freed, an old timey DJ who arguably conceivably may
have popularized the term rock and roll, worked in this city.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
All right, how about a rock and roll Hall of Fame?
And hence the dream was born.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
It's a pop music tourism center.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Although it's harmless.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
There have been several of the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame concerts where they get a bunch of the
inductees there that have been freaking awesome. If you've never
seen him, they're on YouTube, I mean just awesome.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
There's also a lot to hate about those ceremonies. There
are a lot of complaints. If you hear about people
no showing it's because they're like, they're completely using us
to sell tickets to their Hall of Fame. It's abusive,
you know. And I'm not going to get into it
because I don't care enough to be against it. But
every year the inductees or the nominees come out, Oh,
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this is the inductees actually for their rock and Roll
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yes, have you ever seen the one where John Mayer
inducted either Stevie ray Vaughn or Albert King is one
of your blues legends. Anyway, he does it with his
guitar and explains the different kinds of blues through the
years and everything.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I would be into that. Yeah, some of the induction
speech are a lot of fun. I mean, if you're
a music freak hearing one of your heroes pay tribute
to another one of your heroes and explain why they
are such an influence, it's fun. I'm not anti, it's
just it's not important.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
On any level.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
If you want to go see Keith Moon's destroyed drum kit,
go there.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's kind of fun. Have you been, Katie? We have not,
And you guys are not selling it. No, we are
not selling it.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, no, I I I'm glad I went. It was
a fun afternoon bunch of pictures.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Would you go to Cleveland just for that? Or you're
saying if you're in Cleveland, yes, the second one, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, if you're in Cleveland, make it a stop. It's fun,
depending on what sort of music you're into. But again
it's you know.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Mike, if you end up going to see the Browns
play the forty nine ers for some reason or something,
and you got an afternoon to kill, go see Elton
John's glasses.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Jo, it's fun.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I mean for me, Boots, it's fine. It's just the
It reminds me Jack of what we were talking about
during the radio show.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
These what do you call them faux events or pseudo events?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Pseudo events it's an event created purely to talk about
the event, but to make the talking about the event
at all compelling, those talking about it have to pretend
that it matters.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I feel like I've been to hard rock cafes though
that were like thirty percent there. I mean, the the
restaurant with average burgers shouldn't be a third as good
as the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, right, like
a really good Vegas. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, New York.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It's not been to the La One. I'll bet the
LA One's really good too. You got Slash's guitar. Look,
there's David Bowie's skirt he wore back in his I
might be a girl phase. Okay, super uh. Anyway, your
inductees this year includes such rock and roll luminaries as
Cindy Lauper. It was fine song crafter with a handful
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of hits.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Outcast.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Outcast, Cindy Lapper was a big deal for a couple
of years.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I don't know do you get in the Hall of
Fame for that?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
She continues to tour and do shows frequented by lesbians,
which is for music for all orientations. It brings us together,
doesn't it? But yeah, outcast spelled with a K controversial
Hey yeah, yeah, seriously, it's gotta be what twenty years
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since you put out your first record or something?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Who cares? Uh?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Warren Zyvonne, who I think is fabulous, fabulous songwriter. But
but they left out Mariah carry Jack and Oasis, who
were among the nominees.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Sorry, still don't care.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Mariah Carey is so much bigger a deal than Cindy Lapper, though,
I mean in terms of success, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah. Others inducted included Bad Company, The Seminal, British hard
rock band. I'm not sure exactly how seminal they were.
They put out some nice hits back when rock music
was pop music.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I don't like the word seminal. It's got semen in it.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Oh boy, we know you didn't need to tell us, Chuck,
Chubby Checker.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I'm sorry, Chubby Checker just got inducted.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So getting back to twist, So getting back to like
the Little Richard type people in Fats Domino. So Chubby
Checker didn't get it in with those group.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Or soon thereafter apparently not. Come on, baby, let's do
the twist.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Little Richard sounds like, well, you know, okay, both of
you like yes, Michael Yes. British inger Joe Cocker, remembered
for his raw and powerful voice.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I remember I just got her theme?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yes, not really, don't care enough to develop the theme, Katie.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Okay, let's see Sound Guarden. Okay, great heavy rock grunge band.
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Do you have enough fans that will walk in there
and and look at their display and say, wow, cool, no.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yes, that's more your eric. K. Do you think that's
makes sense?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Not really?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You got the white stripes. I don't believe in silent letters.
Oh that would makes sense to me. I didn't. I learned.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I just learned this the other day. So they he
Jack Black's got a new not Jack Black, Jack White.
Jack White has got a new album out, and he's
he is ridiculous. I mean in terms of talent, I
like super got into them. She's I don't know, like
six months ago in a way that I had never
gotten into White Stripes before and listened to some there
deep cuts I'd never heard. But he's just insane. I
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didn't realize though his real name is maybe you know it,
but Jack whatever it is, he took her name. Yeah.
When they got married, right, Oh, good for you. I
just fantastic, aren't you in mine?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah? See.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
One of the things I despise about pop music is
the term recording artist, because a lot of these people
are underwear models who can warble a little, and then
they run your voice through auto tune in the studio
and you could you could have anybody sing it, or
a dog, or it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Jack White is an actual artist.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Oh, he's like half nuts and guitar players know this,
but he intentionally plays instruments that are difficult to play
to see how it changes what he plays, see how
it affects the music to struggle against a guitar at
least now and again, which is an odd note.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I'm far too lazy for that sort. I was listening
to something the other day. I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You went, and you know way more about this than
I do, because I know in the modern world, with
pro tools and everything like that, Yeah, you could get
the four of us in a room and sing something
and by the end of the day have perfect harmonies.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yes, with pro tools. Yeah, how long.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Has that been around? So when I'm listening to stuff,
what was I listening to? Maybe Crosby Stee's Nash Young,
I don't know. It's something with tremendous harmonies the other day,
and I thought that had to be completely real, that
had to be just like what it sounded like for
them to sing together.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, my favorite is a stunning on some of those recordings,
them and like Yes, which I'm a big fan of
in Boston. And what's fun about those is these days,
if you're particularly if you're up against budgetary pressures. If
you nail the harmonies in the first chorus of a song,
and maybe you use autotune, maybe you don't, but you
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nail those harmonies, then you lie them around to the
other chorses.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Is what it's called.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
You copy and paste the harmonies to the other choruses.
It saves time, it saves money, which I've actually done
that some it's but it's again purely to save time
and money. But back in the day they had to
sing every note every time. It had to be either
you know, nailed the harmonies or they're a little bit off.
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But their every chorus was different, generally in ways small
and significant, which is part of what makes a lot
of those old songs really kind of cool. Man, And
they keep like teasing your ear. There's something about that
third chorus that's compelling. You'd never put your finger on.
But it's because it's a little different.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Because so the it's kind of like the way AI
created models. They're so perfect, they're like they got nothing.
It's just kind of not because everything's so perfectly symmetrical,
it doesn't like reach you in a way that a
real human being does you sing the vocals being slightly off?
But Henry and I watched Bohemian Rhapsody, the Queen movie,
and we've been listening to a lot of Queen after that,
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and I was thinking, Oh, they had to reactually record
these vocals and make them sound like this.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
How the hell did they do that? No auto tune
at all? Oh that's insane.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Bohemian Rhapsity at this point is so overplayed. But as
a piece of musical production, it can't exist. It's not
like a two headed dog. It's like a five headed dog.
I mean, it's just it's so wondrous. You can't even
I can't imagine the process.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Oh my god. Sorry, Katie. I could bore you to
death with his stuff, but I'm enjoying it. Yeah. Good. Oh. No,
Mariah Carey in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
damn it.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Jack's broken over that.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I think she is in, isn't she? I don't know.
I don't care enough to scroll back and look.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
So to Jack's point with the AI thing, or and
also yours Joe at the auto tune. Have you seen
these videos that have popped up where you know somebody
will get a one one hit wonder and then you
hear them actually saying like they try to do a
live performance and it's just trash.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Oh really, Oh yeah horrific. Yeah those are fun, aren't they?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yah?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Those are blast.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I forgot to mention that Salt and Peppa are in
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, both Salt and
for their many contributions to art and push it.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Real good, pretty good condiment. It's good advice.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
And back to our really childishly idiotic genital's theme of.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Earlier every aspect.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Every time we bring up rock and Roll Hall Hall
of Fame, I feel like always ends with kind of
a ah, why are we talking about this every time?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I'm just maybe I maybe I was sick the day
we went or something. I just have a negative attitude
towards the whole thing, and I like music a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Next podcast, guys, I'll tell you about the Jelly Belly
Factory and how disappointed I was when I went.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
On the tour.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I took my kids of the Jelly Belly Factory many times.
I think I enjoyed it equally as well, if not more.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, you can lander the good folks at Jelly Belly Michael.
That tour is scintillating. It's pretty good children of all ages.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Have you been, Katie? I have? Have you been when
they're making a bad tasting one? And that is why
I hate jelly bellies. It is because I went on
that day.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah, if you go on a day where it's strawberry
chocolate or something like that, it's fantastic. But we went
on the vomit day. Oh no, not kidding. We went
on the day they were making vomit and there was
nobody there and they warned us before we went in.
I thought, oh, guah, it's no big deal, you know,
and drove here and everything like that. But we couldn't
take it. We ran through the factory part with our
hands over our noses. You just you thought you were
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going to chunder the whole time. It was gross.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, so the whole place just reaped a vomit. Yeah,
oh nice, and then the dre Now thinking about.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
It, they put out the spread at the end where
you can try all the different ones, and that was
where they broke my trust. Is I thought I was
grabbing a peach and I grabbed a vomit and I
have not had a jelly belly since.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
God dang it, we did that as a contest one
time for cousin cousin Christmas, Me, my brothers, my mom
and dad, everybody, uh and uh brought all the different
flavors and there was some dog food.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Nobody.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I don't think anybody could choke down vomit, but there's
there's some gross flavors.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Ah yuck. Well, I guess that's it.
If you're going to pay attention to one completely stupid
thing this year, don't make it this.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's one more thing, one more thing.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Joe and I disagree on this because I take it
further than he does. We went to We went to
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland because
that's where the twenty sixteen Republican Convention was when Trump
was nominated. I'm surprised I never traveled to Cleveland on
vacation just to go to the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame, because I always wanted to do. I found
it extraordinarily underwhelming. Like if I had gone there on
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vacation and that had been it, I would have been.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Very disappointed that I spent my money that way.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I found it thoroughly amusing and entertaining in a way
that was fine for a couple of hours, and I
have no intention of ever going back. So I liked
it more than you did. But you know, I grew
up a rock guy, so you know not that it
is anymore.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
It wasn't my not caring about music that was it.
I just thought it was just underwhelming all the way around.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
But you didn't like seeing Keith Richards pants now small.
They were Joe Strummer's telecaster. Come on from the clash,
Come on.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
So we're gonna do the twenty twenty five inductees have
been named Joe's gonna hit us with that here in
a second. But it's opened in eighty three. First class
was nominated in eighty six. Off the top of your head,
named me. Some of the.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
First class should be pretty easy to do. First Class of.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
The rock and Chuck Berry Stone no Beatles, no Stones, No, no, what.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Berry gotta be No Beatles? Shut up? Who was in
the top? Oh, it was like all.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Your pioneering people, right, Yeah, I don't remember. I've seen
the Listen.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Elvis, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Fats Domino, James Brown, Sam Cook,
Everley Brothers, Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee Lewis.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
There's only one person that's been in there three times.
Who's that got that off the top.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Paul McCartney.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
That's a pretty good guess. He is in there twice.
All the Beatles we got in there as Beatles and
then as solo artists.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Ringo got in the Hall of Fame as a solo artist.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
And Wings didn't make it in I'm surprised by that.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I'm surprised. It's Eric Clapton.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Eric Clapton is in three times. And that's about it.
And that's about how exciting the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame is. This little conversation you just heard, that's
about as exciting as the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
One day, the city fathers and mothers of Cleveland, Ohio
said to themselves, we need more tourism. What are we
known for?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Crappiness? Somebody suggested, No, that's no good. We can't have
a crap hall of fame. The fact that.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Alan Freed, an old timey DJ who arguably conceivably may
have popularized the term rock and roll, worked in this city.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
All right, how about a rock and roll Hall of Fame?
And hence the dream was born.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
It's a pop music tourism center.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Although it's harmless.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
There have been several of the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame concerts where they get a bunch of the
inductees there that have been freaking awesome. If you've never
seen him, they're on YouTube, I mean just awesome.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
There's also a lot to hate about those ceremonies. There
are a lot of complaints. If you hear about people
no showing it's because they're like, they're completely using us
to sell tickets to their Hall of Fame. It's abusive,
you know. And I'm not going to get into it
because I don't care enough to be against it. But
every year the inductees or the nominees come out, Oh,
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this is the inductees actually for their rock and Roll
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yes, have you ever seen the one where John Mayer
inducted either Stevie ray Vaughn or Albert King is one
of your blues legends. Anyway, he does it with his
guitar and explains the different kinds of blues through the
years and everything.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
I would be into that. Yeah, some of the induction
speech are a lot of fun. I mean, if you're
a music freak hearing one of your heroes pay tribute
to another one of your heroes and explain why they
are such an influence, it's fun. I'm not anti, it's
just it's not important.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
On any level.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
If you want to go see Keith Moon's destroyed drum kit,
go there.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's kind of fun. Have you been, Katie? We have not,
And you guys are not selling it. No, we are
not selling it.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, no, I I I'm glad I went. It was
a fun afternoon bunch of pictures.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Would you go to Cleveland just for that? Or you're
saying if you're in Cleveland, yes, the second one, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, if you're in Cleveland, make it a stop. It's fun,
depending on what sort of music you're into. But again
it's you know.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Mike, if you end up going to see the Browns
play the forty nine ers for some reason or something,
and you got an afternoon to kill, go see Elton
John's glasses.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Jo, it's fun.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I mean for me, Boots, it's fine. It's just the
It reminds me Jack of what we were talking about
during the radio show.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
These what do you call them faux events or pseudo events?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Pseudo events it's an event created purely to talk about
the event, but to make the talking about the event
at all compelling, those talking about it have to pretend
that it matters.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I feel like I've been to hard rock cafes though
that were like thirty percent there. I mean, the the
restaurant with average burgers shouldn't be a third as good
as the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, right, like
a really good Vegas. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, New York.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It's not been to the La One. I'll bet the
LA One's really good too. You got Slash's guitar. Look,
there's David Bowie's skirt he wore back in his I
might be a girl phase. Okay, super uh. Anyway, your
inductees this year includes such rock and roll luminaries as
Cindy Lauper. It was fine song crafter with a handful
(06:02):
of hits.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Outcast.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Outcast, Cindy Lapper was a big deal for a couple
of years.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I don't know do you get in the Hall of
Fame for that?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
She continues to tour and do shows frequented by lesbians,
which is for music for all orientations. It brings us together,
doesn't it? But yeah, outcast spelled with a K controversial
Hey yeah, yeah, seriously, it's gotta be what twenty years
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since you put out your first record or something?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Who cares? Uh?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Warren Zyvonne, who I think is fabulous, fabulous songwriter. But
but they left out Mariah carry Jack and Oasis, who
were among the nominees.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Sorry, still don't care.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Mariah Carey is so much bigger a deal than Cindy Lapper, though,
I mean in terms of success, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah. Others inducted included Bad Company, The Seminal, British hard
rock band. I'm not sure exactly how seminal they were.
They put out some nice hits back when rock music
was pop music.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I don't like the word seminal. It's got semen in it.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Oh boy, we know you didn't need to tell us, Chuck,
Chubby Checker.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I'm sorry, Chubby Checker just got inducted.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So getting back to twist, So getting back to like
the Little Richard type people in Fats Domino. So Chubby
Checker didn't get it in with those group.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Or soon thereafter apparently not. Come on, baby, let's do
the twist.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Little Richard sounds like, well, you know, okay, both of
you like yes, Michael Yes. British inger Joe Cocker, remembered
for his raw and powerful voice.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I remember I just got her theme?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yes, not really, don't care enough to develop the theme, Katie.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Okay, let's see Sound Guarden. Okay, great heavy rock grunge band.
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Do you have enough fans that will walk in there
and and look at their display and say, wow, cool, no.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yes, that's more your eric. K. Do you think that's
makes sense?
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Not really?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You got the white stripes. I don't believe in silent letters.
Oh that would makes sense to me. I didn't. I learned.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I just learned this the other day. So they he
Jack Black's got a new not Jack Black, Jack White.
Jack White has got a new album out, and he's
he is ridiculous. I mean in terms of talent, I
like super got into them. She's I don't know, like
six months ago in a way that I had never
gotten into White Stripes before and listened to some there
deep cuts I'd never heard. But he's just insane. I
(09:03):
didn't realize though his real name is maybe you know it,
but Jack whatever it is, he took her name. Yeah.
When they got married, right, Oh, good for you. I
just fantastic, aren't you in mine?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah? See.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
One of the things I despise about pop music is
the term recording artist, because a lot of these people
are underwear models who can warble a little, and then
they run your voice through auto tune in the studio
and you could you could have anybody sing it, or
a dog, or it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Jack White is an actual artist.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Oh, he's like half nuts and guitar players know this,
but he intentionally plays instruments that are difficult to play
to see how it changes what he plays, see how
it affects the music to struggle against a guitar at
least now and again, which is an odd note.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I'm far too lazy for that sort. I was listening
to something the other day. I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You went, and you know way more about this than
I do, because I know in the modern world, with
pro tools and everything like that, Yeah, you could get
the four of us in a room and sing something
and by the end of the day have perfect harmonies.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yes, with pro tools. Yeah, how long.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Has that been around? So when I'm listening to stuff,
what was I listening to? Maybe Crosby Stee's Nash Young,
I don't know. It's something with tremendous harmonies the other day,
and I thought that had to be completely real, that
had to be just like what it sounded like for
them to sing together.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, my favorite is a stunning on some of those recordings,
them and like Yes, which I'm a big fan of
in Boston. And what's fun about those is these days,
if you're particularly if you're up against budgetary pressures. If
you nail the harmonies in the first chorus of a song,
and maybe you use autotune, maybe you don't, but you
(10:58):
nail those harmonies, then you lie them around to the
other chorses.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Is what it's called.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
You copy and paste the harmonies to the other choruses.
It saves time, it saves money, which I've actually done
that some it's but it's again purely to save time
and money. But back in the day they had to
sing every note every time. It had to be either
you know, nailed the harmonies or they're a little bit off.
(11:22):
But their every chorus was different, generally in ways small
and significant, which is part of what makes a lot
of those old songs really kind of cool. Man, And
they keep like teasing your ear. There's something about that
third chorus that's compelling. You'd never put your finger on.
But it's because it's a little different.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Because so the it's kind of like the way AI
created models. They're so perfect, they're like they got nothing.
It's just kind of not because everything's so perfectly symmetrical,
it doesn't like reach you in a way that a
real human being does you sing the vocals being slightly off?
But Henry and I watched Bohemian Rhapsody, the Queen movie,
and we've been listening to a lot of Queen after that,
(12:01):
and I was thinking, Oh, they had to reactually record
these vocals and make them sound like this.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
How the hell did they do that? No auto tune
at all? Oh that's insane.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Bohemian Rhapsity at this point is so overplayed. But as
a piece of musical production, it can't exist. It's not
like a two headed dog. It's like a five headed dog.
I mean, it's just it's so wondrous. You can't even
I can't imagine the process.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Oh my god. Sorry, Katie. I could bore you to
death with his stuff, but I'm enjoying it. Yeah. Good. Oh. No,
Mariah Carey in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
damn it.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Jack's broken over that.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I think she is in, isn't she? I don't know.
I don't care enough to scroll back and look.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
So to Jack's point with the AI thing, or and
also yours Joe at the auto tune. Have you seen
these videos that have popped up where you know somebody
will get a one one hit wonder and then you
hear them actually saying like they try to do a
live performance and it's just trash.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Oh really, Oh yeah horrific. Yeah those are fun, aren't they?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yah?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Those are blast.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I forgot to mention that Salt and Peppa are in
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, both Salt and
for their many contributions to art and push it.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Real good, pretty good condiment. It's good advice.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
And back to our really childishly idiotic genital's theme of.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Earlier every aspect.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Every time we bring up rock and Roll Hall Hall
of Fame, I feel like always ends with kind of
a ah, why are we talking about this every time?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I'm just maybe I maybe I was sick the day
we went or something. I just have a negative attitude
towards the whole thing, and I like music a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Next podcast, guys, I'll tell you about the Jelly Belly
Factory and how disappointed I was when I went.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
On the tour.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I took my kids of the Jelly Belly Factory many times.
I think I enjoyed it equally as well, if not more.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, you can lander the good folks at Jelly Belly Michael.
That tour is scintillating. It's pretty good children of all ages.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Have you been, Katie? I have? Have you been when
they're making a bad tasting one? And that is why
I hate jelly bellies. It is because I went on
that day.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah, if you go on a day where it's strawberry
chocolate or something like that, it's fantastic. But we went
on the vomit day. Oh no, not kidding. We went
on the day they were making vomit and there was
nobody there and they warned us before we went in.
I thought, oh, guah, it's no big deal, you know,
and drove here and everything like that. But we couldn't
take it. We ran through the factory part with our
hands over our noses. You just you thought you were
(14:42):
going to chunder the whole time. It was gross.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, so the whole place just reaped a vomit. Yeah,
oh nice, and then the dre Now thinking about.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
It, they put out the spread at the end where
you can try all the different ones, and that was
where they broke my trust. Is I thought I was
grabbing a peach and I grabbed a vomit and I
have not had a jelly belly since.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
God dang it, we did that as a contest one
time for cousin cousin Christmas, Me, my brothers, my mom
and dad, everybody, uh and uh brought all the different
flavors and there was some dog food.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Nobody.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I don't think anybody could choke down vomit, but there's
there's some gross flavors.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Ah yuck. Well, I guess that's it.
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