December 17, 2025 • 35 mins
Hour 4 of A&G features...
- New Spielberg movie & Ukraine/Russia conflict & Venezuela
- Funny donor names & bonus Scouts of America Mailbag!
- A witticism & Jack makes the choice!
- Final Thoughts!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Caddy arm Strong
and he Armstrong and Yeddy. Good morning, Kansas City. Let's
(00:29):
take OK today, let's today is Today's.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
What are you gonna do? Full disclosure to the whole world?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Guy, guy O? When I wet myself? What what is
happening there? What was that? Can somebody get me some
paper towel? I went to U.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
That is the trailer from the new Stephen Spielberg UFO movie.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh, what's a UFO thing? And that's what caused you
to lose control of your bowels.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
It's too scarry, weird sounds freaked me out.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
You kept your bowels intact, you held your mud, but
your bladder gave way. Thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yes, indeed, the great Stephen Spielberg has turned his attention
to a scary UFO movie.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh I can't wait. I might go to the theater.
That could be good. Cool? My son, is I'm used
to that sound? Katy is freaking out? Would you knock
it off? Like chills down my spine?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It was horrible? Did you watch Stranger Things? Katie? I
forget afe you. I watched the first season and then
it okicked me. Okay, so you didn't make it far
enough to these doglike creatures that eat people and rip
their throats out. That's in season two. I guess my son,
my youngest, is making his way through it because he
heard all the good reviews of season five, so he
(02:13):
decided to try to catch up, and so he's really
into it. Lots of scary music like that, and creepy
things happening and whatnot. There are plenty of actual scary
things happening in the world, like the war between Russia
and Ukraine and where are we on the peace process? Well,
before I get to the New York Times article about it,
this is Mark Alprin's summary today and his news roundup.
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Ukraine is in line to get much more robust security
guarantees that were in the first drafts of the peace
plan putin gets a lot of land bragging rights and
a return to the Community of Nations sort of. Everybody
is tired of war Europe now believes that Trump isn't
bluffing and that this is the final act. Okay, that
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this is the final effort by Trump, then he's going
to wash his hands of if it doesn't go anither.
Here's the problem though, as the New York Times points out,
Ukraine plan calls for enhanced military with US and European backup. Hey,
that's the headline. The sub headline headline is the latest
proposal is designed to deter future Russian aggression. But Russia
is not part of the talks and has shown little
(03:16):
willingness to negotiate. Russia isn't even part of these talks
and has shown no indication zero. As I read the
full article and they get to later, Putin's made no noises,
you know how often be well, we're willing to take
a look at that, or this is a proposal that
you know, there are kinks to work out. But we
believe no zero, He's made no noises whatsoever that he
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has any interest whatsoever in giving on any of these issues.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
So what are we talking about? This is insane. It's
a certain Major League Baseball owners. There's about to be
a huge workstoppage, I think after next season. But it's
like the owners have gotten together with the league and
the umpires and they've all agreed that the players will
play for free after.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
They've made fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
But the players haven't joined in these talks and have
made it clear over and over again they have no
interest in anything like that ever, for the rest of
their lives. Nonetheless, the negotiations continue.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
To the New York Times story, American and European diplomats
meeting with Ukraine's leaders over the past two days in
Berlin have mostly signed off on two documents that outline
the security guarantees, the officials said publicly and privately, several
European countries agreeing to put troops on the ground. Still,
a broad cease fire appears to remain out of reach
(04:34):
for the moment, in part because Russia's not party to
these negotiations. What the hell are we talking about here?
As you just said, what are we saying my marriage
plan with? What's what's the Nazi chick that's so hot
right now? Popular? It's the Nazi the Nazi jens chick. Oh, Sidney,
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It's like me saying my marriage plans with Sidney Sweeney
are remain of reach for the moment, as she has
no knowledge that I exist.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Or interest in marrying me. I mean, it's the same
level of ridiculous. But you keep making announcements about how
it's coming along.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, My plans for the wedding are coming along fine.
We've now narrated down to us several different caterers and
the type of Ringye planned to buy. The negotiations are
being held up by the way that she doesn't know
I exist, nor has any interest. Right.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I don't think you calling her the Nazi Jean's chick
is getting any closer to a marriage either.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Wow. Wow. Again, Still the ceasefire remains out of reach
for the moment, in part because Russia is not party
to these negotiations. I don't understand this paragraph. And then
it says at the end of the paragraph where they
talk about you know, Land this and that, and it
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says Putin has indicated no flexibility at all on his demands. Again,
what is this article about. I'm confused the next paragraph.
You know, I've already said about the peace guarantees that
the United States and Europe has they're working out. They've
come very close to two agreements, the United States and
Europe on their peace guarantees for troops on the ground
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and everything like that. Putin has stated previously he will
not accept the presence of NATO, NATO country troops in Ukraine. Okay,
so he's already said that's a no go and has
shown no indication of backing off whatsoever. I don't even
understand what this article is. I seriously, I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
At least they should do us the favor of saying
clearly these two proposals all of the Russians have.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
They kind of made a proposal, but they could say something.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Like, clearly, these two proposals have serious areas of conflict
and each must be altered significantly before we can talk
about an agreement.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
It's really weird because these are smart people. The negotiators
are smart. The people further the writing for the New
York Times are smart. They're smarter and more sophisticated than
I am. Yet they've written this for the first time
in months. European officials said they're working well with American
negotiators and President Trump. The big breakthrough is that we
and Europe are seeing eye to eye on this. But
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some European leaders hinted at lingering concerns that all the
diplomatic work with the Americans could be irrelevant if the
fundamental disputes between Russian and Ukraine cannot be resolved. Yeah, yeah,
you mean the two countries of war, the two countries
that are fighting the war. If they don't have any agreement,
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this will all be meaningless. Yeah. I would agree, and
I'm no genius here, but I mean there's.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Not no value in the Americans and Europeans working out
their differences informing a united front. I mean, obviously that's very,
very important, but it just seems like the headlines keep
indicating that we're getting closer to an agreement.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I mean, one of the two documents lays out broad principles.
They amount to what two American officials and several European
diplomats said would be a commitment similar to NATO's Article
five guarantee, in which all member nations pledged to come
to the aid of any nation that is attacked. So
it'd basically be a NATO guarantee for Ukraine if they're
attacked by Russia. Again, we the United States of America
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and our friends are at war with Russia. Russia is saying, However,
of course I ain't signing that. Not a freaking chance.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, I don't know. This might just be signaling back
and forth between the sides.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It all seems very well, very shaky. Doesn't even describe
how shaky it is.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm honestly confused as to what
this even is all about. There's mentioned a lot of
time and effort. Again, these are really really smart people.
Marco Rubio is no dummy. Donald Tusk poland no dummy
that these people aren't getting together taking time out of
their lives a week before Christmas because you know, just
to go through the motions, they must think it means something.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So you and the caterer have finally agreed on the buffet,
moving you closer to a final agreement with Sidney Sweet.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Okay, all right again, Sidney Sweeney yet to be aware
of the existence, said the sixty year old bald manor or.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
More notably, has utterly and unequivocally rejected the idea over
and over again.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
You're right. My description is not close to right. She
is aware of me and has said you she's done
he restraining order on multiple occasions and said you right.
There seems to be no budging on her feelings about
mister Armstrong. However, a caterer has been decided upon.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Mister Armstrong has announced a new development in the search
for a florist Okay, great super as being a Warren Peace.
We mentioned this quite early in the show today that
President Trump yesterday ordered a total and complete blockade of
all sanctioned oil tankers entering and leaving Venezuela and a
major escalation of his pressure campaign against the country's leader,
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Nicholas Maduro, the kami kleptocrat. Does Venezuela have the cajones
the ill advised cojones? If I might, you can't have
ill advised balls. I mean, that's just that's a bad metaphor.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Sometimes I felt like mine were ill advised. They certainly
give bad advice anyway.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Is it even possible that the Venezuelans would like fire
on the US?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Say, now, you're not grabbing our tankers. That wouldn't be
that wouldn't just, that wouldn't be having cojones. That'd be stupid, right,
That'd be suicide. So clearly we are trying to squeeze
their oil revenue. Because every dictatorship democracies too. But dictatorships
are a question of money flowing to loyalists. You buy
loyalty's that's it. And if we can choke off their
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money supply, then the the generals who used to be rich.
Now they got their Mercedes payment and their big expensive
villa and the rest of it, and they got to
pay for the upkeep. And they start to think. You know,
but theuro's the guy in the past. The US is saying,
if we're just half reasonable, the party can get going again.
Maybe we talked to the Americans. Is that what they hoped?
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You suppose breaking news? We've settled on a limousine company.
Oh get us from the wedding to the dinner afterwards.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Miss Sweeney still maintains that she'd sooner be dead than
marry mister Armstrong. But the limousine company is said to
be a reputable one four point eight stars on Google.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
We're helping raise money for scouting, in particular that your
kid can be in Scouts if the thing that's been
holding you back is having the money to sign up.
We'll tell you more about that coming up, among other things.
Stay here, well, guys, It is such a festive time
in New York City, isn't the field greats?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It's absolutely freezing out there. It is so cold in
New York City. On my way into work, I saw
a squirrel pouring hot coco on his nuts. It is
so cold in New York. I saw Wall Street stockbrokers
putting with Zora and Mandani, and I go, wait and
say that it's cold.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
He did booning killing. Okay, yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
It sounds like pouring hot cocoa on his nuts.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeahs often. I can guess the funny donors like friends
of mine? Does this you, Michael, No, it's got to
be Michaelangelo was in with fifty dollars. Murcan Mechindo? Angelo?
That sure sounds like you. Now you're the one always
brings up the Mrkin and the Chindo. Anyway, they're in
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for fifty bucks to help Scouts or in particular help
kids join Scouts, which is what we're trying to do.
Jack's Heart of Eating Foundation for the Blind Bland rather
for the Bland Uh in for fifty bucks. I like that.
Can you see my privates?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Can you?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Kenya donated fifty bucks? Can you see my privates? Ken you? Kenya?
Can you see my privates? Keny Kenya? As my son
once coming out of the uh bathtub when he was
like four years old. The way little kids are so
happy to be naked out of the bathtub. Is dancing
around the table. Can you see my privates? Can you
see my privates? Ken you? Kenya? Was can you see
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my privates? Ken you? Kenya? If you did it now,
I'd have to get him into some sort of home
before the cops got there. Where the cops got there,
Miss South Carolina, some people don't have maps. Donated five
hundred bucks. That's a full dolphin right there. It's cost
a whale five hundred dollars. Tho, it's pretty good. Dolphins
are whales, damn it? Okay, and then we'll do a
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total here in a second.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Got a couple of emails of note that I thought
were absolutely fantastic. One we shared earlier in which al
Nanimus was on a trip to the Northern Tier Scout
camp boundary waters between Minnesota and Canada, which I'm that
is amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Pack your bugs, bray.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
But had a scout with us who was, let's say,
used to living comfortably. Day two, some of the other
boys wanted to go ten miles that day. No way
we could go that far, the boy said, and talked
us out of it. Day eight, when we were out
there pretty deep into Canada, had tube days to be
back at camp, and well, the same kid said, well,
what if we pushed it to this lake out here?
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It was twenty six miles he said, we'll be able
to see more before we get back. When I asked
him what changed, he said, mister anonymous, I'm never saying
I can't do something ever.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Again. That's just amazing onspire. I've heard so many stories
like that, including from my son's own leader with some
of the older kids that some of them are already
Eagle Scouts. They did a big hardcore thing where they
actually had a pack mule to get him down to
this canyon out and they were really struggling with the mule,
and in the way that the Scouts do, none of
the adults stepped in. They had to figure it out
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on their own. That's part of the whole learning leadership,
learning to be self relyingt all that sort of stuff.
And this Scout leader in my son's troop actually said
you could see them grow. He said, they came back,
they almost looked taller coming out of the canyon.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Wow. So, and then we got this note from a
good man and a good friend of the show Matt
Delanceerveer who was an Eagle Scout, and he realized that
that meant more on his resume, certainly to one boss,
than Bachelor of Science. And then he says, to earn
the rank of Eagle. A lot of people outside of
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Scouting probably know about having to earn merit badges and
needing new camping, et cetera. What a lot of people
might know not know about is the Eagle Project. In
the subsequent border review, the Eagle Project is a massive
organizational effort and the young Scout is one hundred percent
in charge. You need to come up with the community
service idea, get it approved by several people in the
Scouting organization as being big enough and beneficial enough for
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the community. Then you need to start planning. Contacting stores, vendors, organizations,
explain your project, convinced them to donate offen hundreds of
dollars worth of materials, depending on what the specific project is.
You also need to worry about getting enough people to
show up and donate their man hours to get the
actual work done. You also need to document everything you
were doing pictures, written, descriptions to be able to present
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your project to a border of view and explain it
in detail with the board asking a bunch of different questions.
All of this being done by young fifteen to seventeen
year olds and was by far the most daunting part
of earning my Eagle Scout. Needless to say, nothing in
my four years of college came close to teaching me world,
real world experience and responsibilities than my Eagle project did.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Wow, that's interesting. I went to my first Eagle ceremony
a while back. I talked about it after I was there.
Saw this kid that's in my son's troop get his
Eagle Scout and the story of the project, and then
like teachers and coaches and everybody that were there when
he got his ego. It's really really cool.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And kids need not get to the Eagle Scout level,
certainly to benefit enormously from scouting, but we want to
make sure every kid who wants to can and money
doesn't hold it back. So this is all about scholarships.
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Yeah, it's super easy to donate. Go to Armstrong and
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Among my favorite donations so far twenty five bucks from
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If you want to donate to more people being able
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first a witticism and then a new feature. Jack makes
the choice, Oh boy, here's the witticism. It is actually
a cartoon two fellows. One is obviously in terrible distress,
the other looks very, very smug. The caption is leftist
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mentality in a nutshell. The distressed guy is screaming help.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I'm getting bitten to death by ants, and this smug
companion says not all ants. Oh boy, it makes you steppens.
Welcome to Jack makes the choice.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I'm sur there's going to be a I'm sure there's
going to be a backlash against all ants, so we
don't want to say anything about the ants that are
biting me to death.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Just the radicalized ants really are biting us to death.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
There's one of my choices going home.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Oh boy, if it were, you wouldn't be hearing my voice.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
So here's your choice.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Why is South Korean fertility so low?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, it's the lowest in the world, isn't it. Yes?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
And well they're both so good? Or JD.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Vance is the white ebram x can Kendy. I'm sorry
over that, ibramex kindy.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
As soon as you said gd Vance, I was thinking
the other one. I want because I don't want anything politics.
But that is intriguing, just because I can't even imagine
what it is. You know.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I'm going to give you a very capsule summary of
that one, and then we'll do the South Korea story.
J D who wrote so movingly and persuasively in Hillbilly
Elegy about his people in rural Atalatia and their self
defeating beliefs and attitudes. It was a look at and
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I've made this quote several times great Elvis Costello song,
The Deep, Dark, Truthful Mirror. It was a good long
stare into that mirror, and it was remarkably candid. It
seems as though he's decided it's much much better politics
to work the grievance side of the aisle and tell
people you're being cheated and the world is stacked against you,
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and I will be your savior.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
That might just be a reflection of the fact that, yes,
that sort of politics is much more popular than you
need to take a look at you shelf and solve
your own problems. And kind of as an adjunct to that,
there's an interesting story in the Journal today entitled the
War on Poverty failed this West Virginia County and they're
no longer waiting for help. Well, good, good, And you know,
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someday I'd like to get back to discussing how the
average American would move to find work many times in
their lives a very very short time ago, and now
people seem to have some sort of belief that they
have a god given right to stay where they are
because it's familiar and comfortable.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
It's odd. It's a real change.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Anyway, This is long issue, and we'll just touch on
some of the main points.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Why is Korean men can't satisfy their women's I'm not
sure that's it.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Why is South Korean fertility so low? Listen to this, now,
comprehend this if you can. Its population optimistically is projected
to shrink by over two thirds in the next one
hundred years. If current fertility rates persist, you've got one
hundred South Koreans today, they will have only six great
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grandchildren between them.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Wow. Yeah, yeah. I remember from reading America Alone by
Mark Stein back in the days, when you do the
math on the spiral of dropping below two point one
kids per woman, it's amazing math. It's like compound interest. Well,
it's exactly like compound interest the way it works, and
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it's astounding how quickly you run out of people. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, So, here are a couple of stats for you.
The world fertility rate in nineteen sixty, which lines the world.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Oh, there it is. Was this around five children per Wow.
That's because men back then could satisfy the women all boy. Interestingly,
they don't have the US rate.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
It's mostly about Asia, but in South Korea it was
actually in nineteen sixty it was closer to six children
per women.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Wow. That's a lot of kids for the average.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And I will tell you South Korea is more severe
than the world. But the world's fertility rate has been
declining quite quite significantly. But anyway, I'm just gonna go
one decade at a time. For South Korea in nineteen sixty,
it was a little over six children per women. In
nineteen seventy, it was about four and a half. In
nineteen eighty, it was about two point seven. Nineteen ninety
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it was one point eight two thousand and one point five,
twenty ten, about one point two and twenty twenty. It's like,
what is the figure out now point eight? I think,
you know my theory.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Which I meant not even really a theory. It's just
a fact, isn't it that, for whatever reason, successful safe
cultures stop having kids South Korea in nineteen sixty they
were coming out of a Korean war, not that many
years earlier, when was the Armistist fifty three. So I
mean they're all, you know, children of war and they're
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cranking out kids. As soon as you've become very successful
and safe, you stop having kids, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
In contrast to Jack's old bluesman theory, it's not they're
women's scientists take a different view, although it is, like
so many things cultural in every developed country. I'm quoting
now from the Science newsletter. I'm reading here, women struggle
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to reconcile their careers with a satisfying family life and
their preferred number of children. This trade off is exception
in South Korea. Despite its very high level of female education,
South Korea has the largest gender employment gap in the
developed countries. There is almost no employment gap between men
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and unmarried women. I mean, the numbers are almost precisely
the same. It's around seventy three percent employment. The gap
is driven by the fact that large numbers of women
stop working when they have kids. Only fifty six percent
of mother's work the fourth lowest in the OECD, which
I can't remember what that stands, where it's the it's
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your developed countries. In South Korea, mother's employment falls by
forty nine percent relative to fathers over ten years. In
the US it falls by twenty five percent, In Sweden
by only nine percent. South Korean women face a steep
motherhood penalty, partly because of their insane work culture. South
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Korean's work more hours per year. It's about a thousand more.
It's about thirty well, I'm sorry, it's about one hundred
and thirty hours more a year than Americans and about
four hundred and thirty more.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Than Swedes, for instance.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
How many makes it harder to balance work and motherhood
or work or anything else.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
How many more hours a year than Americans. Uh three oh,
one hundred and thirty. Wow. Yeah, so more than two
hours a week more. Ah yeah, yeah wow.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
There is intense pressure from employers for women not to
have children. In surveys, twenty seven percent of female office
workers report being coerced into signing illegal contracts promising to
resign if they become pregnant or get married. Korean work
culture is notoriously sexist, ah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
But this is different than the fact that they're not
having kids. In like Italy or France, where you have
so much time off and you could say, well, you
you want to you know, you want to vacation and
eat and blah blah blah and self indulge and you
don't have kids. South Korea, they're working their asses off
and not having kids. Yeah, it is interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You're right, these these facts about South Korea cannot be
applied universally.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I mean the insane work culture. So you can have
more studying when you're a child, but say you can
have more stuff the two of you or the one
of you with no kids.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
They mentioned that there's intense competition for university places. Cram
schools and private tuition are popular and many low fertility
Asian countries Taiwan, Singapore, China, they mentioned, but South Korea
is even worse. Almost eighty percent of children attend a hagwan,
which is a type of private cram school operating in
the evening and on weekends.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Almost eighty percent.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
In twenty twenty three, South Koreans poured billions of dollars
into the shadow education system. They're just absolutely obsessed with
material success.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
How happy are they? Oh? Miserable. They've got the highest
suicide rate in the world. I think, Wow, that's something.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, there's giant decline in marriage. You know what I
think is underappreciated. And I think about this a lot,
and I don't I don't think people feel it.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I have.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Let me put it this way. I have trouble running
into people who see it the same way I do.
Not that they disagree, they just haven't thought about it.
Cultures are like individuals. They can get diseased. And just
because a culture is something doesn't mean it should be
something or that there's nothing. I mean, there's little you
can do as an individual about it. But it's you've
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got to look at your culture like you're in a
group of five friends, and your five friends make a
terrible decision about what they're going to do. It's like
the proverbial if your friend's jumped off bridge, You've got
to look at yourself. Separate from your culture. Cultural going
around with the cultural going along with the cultural current
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needs to be a choice.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
We started the show by talking about living. What the
hell that's funny? I couldn't remember the term awaredly in
the moment. What's the mindfulness? Mindfulness right? Mindfully participate in
your culture mindfully? Yeah, se I made this joke kind
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of a couple of weeks ago on our friend Tim,
who's a famously childless hit him and his wife, two
very smart, successful people who have no interest in having kids.
Is just you know, how upset can you be about
kids that aren't born? I mean, you'd have to care
about your culture carrying on, and that's not the same
as like a lot of what you and I do
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probably is because we got kids out there that are
going to have to live in this country, and so
I care a lot. The direct motive goes, it's a
hell of a mode of It's one of the biggest
motivators in world history. So nobody knows what it's like
to have a society where you don't have kids, where
you feel like, well, I'm dead, What the hell do
I care what happens to this country or everybody else
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is going to be dead too, Oh none of my
friends have kids. I mean, it's it's pretty hard to
get super motivated to care about what the country's going
to be like in fifty years if I'm gone and
none of I've got no offspring. So interestingly, back to Korea.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Briefly, like China, they decided in the very early sixties,
as a new regime came to power, that families were
way too big. There are too many people, and shrinking
family sizes would fuel economic development by freeing up more
women to work and decreasing the number of dependents per worker.
And so they had all sorts of you know, societal
pressure and tax breaks and slogans have few children and
(29:52):
bring them up well. Later posters encourage parents to prioritize
quality over quantity, with mottos such as let's have two
children and raise them well or the frantic two children
is already too many. And it was absorbed into Asian culture,
including South Korean culture, and they just stopped having kids.
It's interesting, but as you point out, that ain't the
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story in Italy, for instance, Germany, the US. It's an
interesting phenomenon.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Got to learn to satisfy your women for.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Your women's women's got satisfy you women's A national born
lover man.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
It's obvious. Of course we will finish strong next. I
don't believe Bernard Sanders actually did give twenty five dollars
to our charity, which is raising money some more people
can join Scouts, because it cost a couple hundred bucks
to get your kid into Scouts, and we want everybody
(30:50):
who has a kid who wants to get involved so
they can get the leadership skills and all that sort
of stuff to be able to do it. Trying to
raise one hundred thousand dollars, Bernard Sanders twenty five dollars.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Ard Sanders seven dollars.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
That's why it's twenty seven dollars now, I get it, okay.
Obviously one hundred bucks from Jack's Ukrainian girlfriend appreciate that
or did she her? She told me that if I
didn't start answering her questions, that our love was going
to die, and she was right. Twenty five dollars from
Walmart Bathroom Drain Liquors Association. Now it was a target,
(31:23):
and was it a story about you're drained to lick you?
Was it a story about someone else's kid, or was
it a story about my own kid? Your kid is
my own kid? Looking the drain at the target? Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow,
that's not good. That's right. I turned around and there
he was. I think it was Henry's like on his
hands and knees licking the drain. It's like one or two. Yeah,
(31:46):
that's here's a there's a tip there, Katie. Don't let
them out of your sight when they're little. You don't
know what they're doing. Do you know me?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I'm I'm free range dad. I'm let them get dirty.
It's better for their immune system. Black blah blah.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I see that. I'm screaming. Ah. He's snatching them up,
drawing the line. Yeah, oh my, that's rough.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
You know, if you tried hard, you could come up
with a more disgusting place to lick. But I don't
want to be part of that brainstorming session.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
That's cross. I think at the time that's what we
were saying, is like that might be the single worst
thing to be hard to beat without way of breaking
into a plant or something. Well, and if somebody comes
up with it, I don't want to hear it. Joe,
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they've got some final thoughts Armstrong and Show.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Here's your os for final thoughts, Joe Getty, let's get
a final thought from everybody on the crew.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Mike Lengelow lead us off. Yeah, I just made my
twenty five dollars donation to the US. It's gonna be
an the name listening to CD and staring off while
running the A and G Show.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
So I like it, beautiful, Katie Greener esteemed Newswoman As
a final thought, Katie, we have a.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
New Katie's Corner up at Armstrong Getty dot com as well.
That includes the AI George Washington video.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Oh that's good. Oh, Glenn Beck interviewing George Washington. That's
a great get. As we say in the business, Jack
a final.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Thought for us, Yes, we'll get a total for today.
See where we are currently. Go to I'm shore onion
Getty dot com. Click on the donate thing. It's super
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Really want fantastic get to one hundred grand before the
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Speaker 2 (33:42):
So please a little bit a gave whatever you can, Yeah,
little or a lot wales My final thought. I mentioned
this jack to Jack off the air. I invited the
fellows over for a bourbon last night. Anybody who thinks
a bourbon is going to be a bourbon is a fool.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I could use a n app slightly weakened. I don't
know anything about hard liquor. I was a beer drinker.
How many bourbons is too many? And how much do
you drink at a time?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Usually, Well that's the thing. How big a poor are
you pouring?
Speaker 1 (34:12):
It's large. It doesn't come in like in individual cans
like beer.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Uh huh morevida. You have a freeer hand. So it was,
you know, just over a little ice, several of them.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
What are you gonna do? And something you do SIPs
of Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, unless you got like a Rob Reiner's son problem.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, Armstrong and Geeddy rightbick got another grueling four hour workday.
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E geddy dot com. Clips of the year show on Fridays.
So tomorrow is the last traditional sort of Armstrong and
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We'll see you then, God Bless America hits the Armstrong
and Getty Show. Here's a little gift Jack Joe from
Jack and Joe straight from today.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
So I wish that what Susie Wilde said, instead of
just being the usual Washington pissing match to a discussion
of it. It's an expression, it's not an actual content. No, no,
let it go unsat which channel has
Speaker 1 (35:27):
That Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Caddy arm Strong
and he Armstrong and Yeddy. Good morning, Kansas City. Let's
(00:29):
take OK today, let's today is Today's.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
What are you gonna do? Full disclosure to the whole world?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Guy, guy O? When I wet myself? What what is
happening there? What was that? Can somebody get me some
paper towel? I went to U.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
That is the trailer from the new Stephen Spielberg UFO movie.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh, what's a UFO thing? And that's what caused you
to lose control of your bowels.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
It's too scarry, weird sounds freaked me out.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
You kept your bowels intact, you held your mud, but
your bladder gave way. Thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yes, indeed, the great Stephen Spielberg has turned his attention
to a scary UFO movie.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh I can't wait. I might go to the theater.
That could be good. Cool? My son, is I'm used
to that sound? Katy is freaking out? Would you knock
it off? Like chills down my spine?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It was horrible? Did you watch Stranger Things? Katie? I
forget afe you. I watched the first season and then
it okicked me. Okay, so you didn't make it far
enough to these doglike creatures that eat people and rip
their throats out. That's in season two. I guess my son,
my youngest, is making his way through it because he
heard all the good reviews of season five, so he
(02:13):
decided to try to catch up, and so he's really
into it. Lots of scary music like that, and creepy
things happening and whatnot. There are plenty of actual scary
things happening in the world, like the war between Russia
and Ukraine and where are we on the peace process? Well,
before I get to the New York Times article about it,
this is Mark Alprin's summary today and his news roundup.
(02:33):
Ukraine is in line to get much more robust security
guarantees that were in the first drafts of the peace
plan putin gets a lot of land bragging rights and
a return to the Community of Nations sort of. Everybody
is tired of war Europe now believes that Trump isn't
bluffing and that this is the final act. Okay, that
(02:53):
this is the final effort by Trump, then he's going
to wash his hands of if it doesn't go anither.
Here's the problem though, as the New York Times points out,
Ukraine plan calls for enhanced military with US and European backup. Hey,
that's the headline. The sub headline headline is the latest
proposal is designed to deter future Russian aggression. But Russia
is not part of the talks and has shown little
(03:16):
willingness to negotiate. Russia isn't even part of these talks
and has shown no indication zero. As I read the
full article and they get to later, Putin's made no noises,
you know how often be well, we're willing to take
a look at that, or this is a proposal that
you know, there are kinks to work out. But we
believe no zero, He's made no noises whatsoever that he
(03:40):
has any interest whatsoever in giving on any of these issues.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
So what are we talking about? This is insane. It's
a certain Major League Baseball owners. There's about to be
a huge workstoppage, I think after next season. But it's
like the owners have gotten together with the league and
the umpires and they've all agreed that the players will
play for free after.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
They've made fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
But the players haven't joined in these talks and have
made it clear over and over again they have no
interest in anything like that ever, for the rest of
their lives. Nonetheless, the negotiations continue.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
To the New York Times story, American and European diplomats
meeting with Ukraine's leaders over the past two days in
Berlin have mostly signed off on two documents that outline
the security guarantees, the officials said publicly and privately, several
European countries agreeing to put troops on the ground. Still,
a broad cease fire appears to remain out of reach
(04:34):
for the moment, in part because Russia's not party to
these negotiations. What the hell are we talking about here?
As you just said, what are we saying my marriage
plan with? What's what's the Nazi chick that's so hot
right now? Popular? It's the Nazi the Nazi jens chick. Oh, Sidney,
(04:54):
It's like me saying my marriage plans with Sidney Sweeney
are remain of reach for the moment, as she has
no knowledge that I exist.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Or interest in marrying me. I mean, it's the same
level of ridiculous. But you keep making announcements about how
it's coming along.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, My plans for the wedding are coming along fine.
We've now narrated down to us several different caterers and
the type of Ringye planned to buy. The negotiations are
being held up by the way that she doesn't know
I exist, nor has any interest. Right.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I don't think you calling her the Nazi Jean's chick
is getting any closer to a marriage either.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Wow. Wow. Again, Still the ceasefire remains out of reach
for the moment, in part because Russia is not party
to these negotiations. I don't understand this paragraph. And then
it says at the end of the paragraph where they
talk about you know, Land this and that, and it
(05:51):
says Putin has indicated no flexibility at all on his demands. Again,
what is this article about. I'm confused the next paragraph.
You know, I've already said about the peace guarantees that
the United States and Europe has they're working out. They've
come very close to two agreements, the United States and
Europe on their peace guarantees for troops on the ground
(06:12):
and everything like that. Putin has stated previously he will
not accept the presence of NATO, NATO country troops in Ukraine. Okay,
so he's already said that's a no go and has
shown no indication of backing off whatsoever. I don't even
understand what this article is. I seriously, I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
At least they should do us the favor of saying
clearly these two proposals all of the Russians have.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
They kind of made a proposal, but they could say something.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Like, clearly, these two proposals have serious areas of conflict
and each must be altered significantly before we can talk
about an agreement.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
It's really weird because these are smart people. The negotiators
are smart. The people further the writing for the New
York Times are smart. They're smarter and more sophisticated than
I am. Yet they've written this for the first time
in months. European officials said they're working well with American
negotiators and President Trump. The big breakthrough is that we
and Europe are seeing eye to eye on this. But
(07:16):
some European leaders hinted at lingering concerns that all the
diplomatic work with the Americans could be irrelevant if the
fundamental disputes between Russian and Ukraine cannot be resolved. Yeah, yeah,
you mean the two countries of war, the two countries
that are fighting the war. If they don't have any agreement,
(07:37):
this will all be meaningless. Yeah. I would agree, and
I'm no genius here, but I mean there's.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Not no value in the Americans and Europeans working out
their differences informing a united front. I mean, obviously that's very,
very important, but it just seems like the headlines keep
indicating that we're getting closer to an agreement.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I mean, one of the two documents lays out broad principles.
They amount to what two American officials and several European
diplomats said would be a commitment similar to NATO's Article
five guarantee, in which all member nations pledged to come
to the aid of any nation that is attacked. So
it'd basically be a NATO guarantee for Ukraine if they're
attacked by Russia. Again, we the United States of America
(08:18):
and our friends are at war with Russia. Russia is saying, However,
of course I ain't signing that. Not a freaking chance.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, I don't know. This might just be signaling back
and forth between the sides.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It all seems very well, very shaky. Doesn't even describe
how shaky it is.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm honestly confused as to what
this even is all about. There's mentioned a lot of
time and effort. Again, these are really really smart people.
Marco Rubio is no dummy. Donald Tusk poland no dummy
that these people aren't getting together taking time out of
their lives a week before Christmas because you know, just
to go through the motions, they must think it means something.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So you and the caterer have finally agreed on the buffet,
moving you closer to a final agreement with Sidney Sweet.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Okay, all right again, Sidney Sweeney yet to be aware
of the existence, said the sixty year old bald manor or.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
More notably, has utterly and unequivocally rejected the idea over
and over again.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
You're right. My description is not close to right. She
is aware of me and has said you she's done
he restraining order on multiple occasions and said you right.
There seems to be no budging on her feelings about
mister Armstrong. However, a caterer has been decided upon.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Mister Armstrong has announced a new development in the search
for a florist Okay, great super as being a Warren Peace.
We mentioned this quite early in the show today that
President Trump yesterday ordered a total and complete blockade of
all sanctioned oil tankers entering and leaving Venezuela and a
major escalation of his pressure campaign against the country's leader,
(10:07):
Nicholas Maduro, the kami kleptocrat. Does Venezuela have the cajones
the ill advised cojones? If I might, you can't have
ill advised balls. I mean, that's just that's a bad metaphor.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Sometimes I felt like mine were ill advised. They certainly
give bad advice anyway.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Is it even possible that the Venezuelans would like fire
on the US?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Say, now, you're not grabbing our tankers. That wouldn't be
that wouldn't just, that wouldn't be having cojones. That'd be stupid, right,
That'd be suicide. So clearly we are trying to squeeze
their oil revenue. Because every dictatorship democracies too. But dictatorships
are a question of money flowing to loyalists. You buy
loyalty's that's it. And if we can choke off their
(10:58):
money supply, then the the generals who used to be rich.
Now they got their Mercedes payment and their big expensive
villa and the rest of it, and they got to
pay for the upkeep. And they start to think. You know,
but theuro's the guy in the past. The US is saying,
if we're just half reasonable, the party can get going again.
Maybe we talked to the Americans. Is that what they hoped?
(11:20):
You suppose breaking news? We've settled on a limousine company.
Oh get us from the wedding to the dinner afterwards.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Miss Sweeney still maintains that she'd sooner be dead than
marry mister Armstrong. But the limousine company is said to
be a reputable one four point eight stars on Google.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
We're helping raise money for scouting, in particular that your
kid can be in Scouts if the thing that's been
holding you back is having the money to sign up.
We'll tell you more about that coming up, among other things.
Stay here, well, guys, It is such a festive time
in New York City, isn't the field greats?
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It's absolutely freezing out there. It is so cold in
New York City. On my way into work, I saw
a squirrel pouring hot coco on his nuts. It is
so cold in New York. I saw Wall Street stockbrokers
putting with Zora and Mandani, and I go, wait and
say that it's cold.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
He did booning killing. Okay, yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
It sounds like pouring hot cocoa on his nuts.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeahs often. I can guess the funny donors like friends
of mine? Does this you, Michael, No, it's got to
be Michaelangelo was in with fifty dollars. Murcan Mechindo? Angelo?
That sure sounds like you. Now you're the one always
brings up the Mrkin and the Chindo. Anyway, they're in
(12:47):
for fifty bucks to help Scouts or in particular help
kids join Scouts, which is what we're trying to do.
Jack's Heart of Eating Foundation for the Blind Bland rather
for the Bland Uh in for fifty bucks. I like that.
Can you see my privates?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Can you?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Kenya donated fifty bucks? Can you see my privates? Ken you? Kenya?
Can you see my privates? Keny Kenya? As my son
once coming out of the uh bathtub when he was
like four years old. The way little kids are so
happy to be naked out of the bathtub. Is dancing
around the table. Can you see my privates? Can you
see my privates? Ken you? Kenya? Was can you see
(13:23):
my privates? Ken you? Kenya? If you did it now,
I'd have to get him into some sort of home
before the cops got there. Where the cops got there,
Miss South Carolina, some people don't have maps. Donated five
hundred bucks. That's a full dolphin right there. It's cost
a whale five hundred dollars. Tho, it's pretty good. Dolphins
are whales, damn it? Okay, and then we'll do a
(13:44):
total here in a second.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Got a couple of emails of note that I thought
were absolutely fantastic. One we shared earlier in which al
Nanimus was on a trip to the Northern Tier Scout
camp boundary waters between Minnesota and Canada, which I'm that
is amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Pack your bugs, bray.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
But had a scout with us who was, let's say,
used to living comfortably. Day two, some of the other
boys wanted to go ten miles that day. No way
we could go that far, the boy said, and talked
us out of it. Day eight, when we were out
there pretty deep into Canada, had tube days to be
back at camp, and well, the same kid said, well,
what if we pushed it to this lake out here?
(14:22):
It was twenty six miles he said, we'll be able
to see more before we get back. When I asked
him what changed, he said, mister anonymous, I'm never saying
I can't do something ever.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Again. That's just amazing onspire. I've heard so many stories
like that, including from my son's own leader with some
of the older kids that some of them are already
Eagle Scouts. They did a big hardcore thing where they
actually had a pack mule to get him down to
this canyon out and they were really struggling with the mule,
and in the way that the Scouts do, none of
the adults stepped in. They had to figure it out
(14:54):
on their own. That's part of the whole learning leadership,
learning to be self relyingt all that sort of stuff.
And this Scout leader in my son's troop actually said
you could see them grow. He said, they came back,
they almost looked taller coming out of the canyon.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Wow. So, and then we got this note from a
good man and a good friend of the show Matt
Delanceerveer who was an Eagle Scout, and he realized that
that meant more on his resume, certainly to one boss,
than Bachelor of Science. And then he says, to earn
the rank of Eagle. A lot of people outside of
(15:31):
Scouting probably know about having to earn merit badges and
needing new camping, et cetera. What a lot of people
might know not know about is the Eagle Project. In
the subsequent border review, the Eagle Project is a massive
organizational effort and the young Scout is one hundred percent
in charge. You need to come up with the community
service idea, get it approved by several people in the
Scouting organization as being big enough and beneficial enough for
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the community. Then you need to start planning. Contacting stores, vendors, organizations,
explain your project, convinced them to donate offen hundreds of
dollars worth of materials, depending on what the specific project is.
You also need to worry about getting enough people to
show up and donate their man hours to get the
actual work done. You also need to document everything you
were doing pictures, written, descriptions to be able to present
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your project to a border of view and explain it
in detail with the board asking a bunch of different questions.
All of this being done by young fifteen to seventeen
year olds and was by far the most daunting part
of earning my Eagle Scout. Needless to say, nothing in
my four years of college came close to teaching me world,
real world experience and responsibilities than my Eagle project did.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Wow, that's interesting. I went to my first Eagle ceremony
a while back. I talked about it after I was there.
Saw this kid that's in my son's troop get his
Eagle Scout and the story of the project, and then
like teachers and coaches and everybody that were there when
he got his ego. It's really really cool.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And kids need not get to the Eagle Scout level,
certainly to benefit enormously from scouting, but we want to
make sure every kid who wants to can and money
doesn't hold it back. So this is all about scholarships.
Go Armstrong e geddy dot com. The donate now button
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Yeah, it's super easy to donate. Go to Armstrong and
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Speaker 1 (17:14):
Among my favorite donations so far twenty five bucks from
unclear where they may have gotten that cheesecake. Oh that
great callback. Anyway, Welcome to the Armstrong and Getty Show.
If you want to donate to more people being able
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first a witticism and then a new feature. Jack makes
the choice, Oh boy, here's the witticism. It is actually
a cartoon two fellows. One is obviously in terrible distress,
the other looks very, very smug. The caption is leftist
(17:56):
mentality in a nutshell. The distressed guy is screaming help.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I'm getting bitten to death by ants, and this smug
companion says not all ants. Oh boy, it makes you steppens.
Welcome to Jack makes the choice.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I'm sur there's going to be a I'm sure there's
going to be a backlash against all ants, so we
don't want to say anything about the ants that are
biting me to death.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Just the radicalized ants really are biting us to death.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
There's one of my choices going home.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Oh boy, if it were, you wouldn't be hearing my voice.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
So here's your choice.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Why is South Korean fertility so low?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, it's the lowest in the world, isn't it. Yes?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
And well they're both so good? Or JD.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Vance is the white ebram x can Kendy. I'm sorry
over that, ibramex kindy.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
As soon as you said gd Vance, I was thinking
the other one. I want because I don't want anything politics.
But that is intriguing, just because I can't even imagine
what it is. You know.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I'm going to give you a very capsule summary of
that one, and then we'll do the South Korea story.
J D who wrote so movingly and persuasively in Hillbilly
Elegy about his people in rural Atalatia and their self
defeating beliefs and attitudes. It was a look at and
(19:35):
I've made this quote several times great Elvis Costello song,
The Deep, Dark, Truthful Mirror. It was a good long
stare into that mirror, and it was remarkably candid. It
seems as though he's decided it's much much better politics
to work the grievance side of the aisle and tell
people you're being cheated and the world is stacked against you,
(19:58):
and I will be your savior.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
That might just be a reflection of the fact that, yes,
that sort of politics is much more popular than you
need to take a look at you shelf and solve
your own problems. And kind of as an adjunct to that,
there's an interesting story in the Journal today entitled the
War on Poverty failed this West Virginia County and they're
no longer waiting for help. Well, good, good, And you know,
(20:26):
someday I'd like to get back to discussing how the
average American would move to find work many times in
their lives a very very short time ago, and now
people seem to have some sort of belief that they
have a god given right to stay where they are
because it's familiar and comfortable.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
It's odd. It's a real change.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Anyway, This is long issue, and we'll just touch on
some of the main points.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Why is Korean men can't satisfy their women's I'm not
sure that's it.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Why is South Korean fertility so low? Listen to this, now,
comprehend this if you can. Its population optimistically is projected
to shrink by over two thirds in the next one
hundred years. If current fertility rates persist, you've got one
hundred South Koreans today, they will have only six great
(21:22):
grandchildren between them.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Wow. Yeah, yeah. I remember from reading America Alone by
Mark Stein back in the days, when you do the
math on the spiral of dropping below two point one
kids per woman, it's amazing math. It's like compound interest. Well,
it's exactly like compound interest the way it works, and
(21:46):
it's astounding how quickly you run out of people. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, So, here are a couple of stats for you.
The world fertility rate in nineteen sixty, which lines the world.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Oh, there it is. Was this around five children per Wow.
That's because men back then could satisfy the women all boy. Interestingly,
they don't have the US rate.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
It's mostly about Asia, but in South Korea it was
actually in nineteen sixty it was closer to six children
per women.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Wow. That's a lot of kids for the average.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And I will tell you South Korea is more severe
than the world. But the world's fertility rate has been
declining quite quite significantly. But anyway, I'm just gonna go
one decade at a time. For South Korea in nineteen sixty,
it was a little over six children per women. In
nineteen seventy, it was about four and a half. In
nineteen eighty, it was about two point seven. Nineteen ninety
(22:49):
it was one point eight two thousand and one point five,
twenty ten, about one point two and twenty twenty. It's like,
what is the figure out now point eight? I think,
you know my theory.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Which I meant not even really a theory. It's just
a fact, isn't it that, for whatever reason, successful safe
cultures stop having kids South Korea in nineteen sixty they
were coming out of a Korean war, not that many
years earlier, when was the Armistist fifty three. So I
mean they're all, you know, children of war and they're
(23:25):
cranking out kids. As soon as you've become very successful
and safe, you stop having kids, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
In contrast to Jack's old bluesman theory, it's not they're
women's scientists take a different view, although it is, like
so many things cultural in every developed country. I'm quoting
now from the Science newsletter. I'm reading here, women struggle
(23:54):
to reconcile their careers with a satisfying family life and
their preferred number of children. This trade off is exception
in South Korea. Despite its very high level of female education,
South Korea has the largest gender employment gap in the
developed countries. There is almost no employment gap between men
(24:15):
and unmarried women. I mean, the numbers are almost precisely
the same. It's around seventy three percent employment. The gap
is driven by the fact that large numbers of women
stop working when they have kids. Only fifty six percent
of mother's work the fourth lowest in the OECD, which
I can't remember what that stands, where it's the it's
(24:36):
your developed countries. In South Korea, mother's employment falls by
forty nine percent relative to fathers over ten years. In
the US it falls by twenty five percent, In Sweden
by only nine percent. South Korean women face a steep
motherhood penalty, partly because of their insane work culture. South
(24:59):
Korean's work more hours per year. It's about a thousand more.
It's about thirty well, I'm sorry, it's about one hundred
and thirty hours more a year than Americans and about
four hundred and thirty more.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Than Swedes, for instance.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
How many makes it harder to balance work and motherhood
or work or anything else.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
How many more hours a year than Americans. Uh three oh,
one hundred and thirty. Wow. Yeah, so more than two
hours a week more. Ah yeah, yeah wow.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
There is intense pressure from employers for women not to
have children. In surveys, twenty seven percent of female office
workers report being coerced into signing illegal contracts promising to
resign if they become pregnant or get married. Korean work
culture is notoriously sexist, ah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
But this is different than the fact that they're not
having kids. In like Italy or France, where you have
so much time off and you could say, well, you
you want to you know, you want to vacation and
eat and blah blah blah and self indulge and you
don't have kids. South Korea, they're working their asses off
and not having kids. Yeah, it is interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You're right, these these facts about South Korea cannot be
applied universally.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I mean the insane work culture. So you can have
more studying when you're a child, but say you can
have more stuff the two of you or the one
of you with no kids.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
They mentioned that there's intense competition for university places. Cram
schools and private tuition are popular and many low fertility
Asian countries Taiwan, Singapore, China, they mentioned, but South Korea
is even worse. Almost eighty percent of children attend a hagwan,
which is a type of private cram school operating in
the evening and on weekends.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Almost eighty percent.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
In twenty twenty three, South Koreans poured billions of dollars
into the shadow education system. They're just absolutely obsessed with
material success.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
How happy are they? Oh? Miserable. They've got the highest
suicide rate in the world. I think, Wow, that's something.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah, there's giant decline in marriage. You know what I
think is underappreciated. And I think about this a lot,
and I don't I don't think people feel it.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I have.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Let me put it this way. I have trouble running
into people who see it the same way I do.
Not that they disagree, they just haven't thought about it.
Cultures are like individuals. They can get diseased. And just
because a culture is something doesn't mean it should be
something or that there's nothing. I mean, there's little you
can do as an individual about it. But it's you've
(27:48):
got to look at your culture like you're in a
group of five friends, and your five friends make a
terrible decision about what they're going to do. It's like
the proverbial if your friend's jumped off bridge, You've got
to look at yourself. Separate from your culture. Cultural going
around with the cultural going along with the cultural current
(28:09):
needs to be a choice.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
We started the show by talking about living. What the
hell that's funny? I couldn't remember the term awaredly in
the moment. What's the mindfulness? Mindfulness right? Mindfully participate in
your culture mindfully? Yeah, se I made this joke kind
(28:31):
of a couple of weeks ago on our friend Tim,
who's a famously childless hit him and his wife, two
very smart, successful people who have no interest in having kids.
Is just you know, how upset can you be about
kids that aren't born? I mean, you'd have to care
about your culture carrying on, and that's not the same
as like a lot of what you and I do
(28:52):
probably is because we got kids out there that are
going to have to live in this country, and so
I care a lot. The direct motive goes, it's a
hell of a mode of It's one of the biggest
motivators in world history. So nobody knows what it's like
to have a society where you don't have kids, where
you feel like, well, I'm dead, What the hell do
I care what happens to this country or everybody else
(29:14):
is going to be dead too, Oh none of my
friends have kids. I mean, it's it's pretty hard to
get super motivated to care about what the country's going
to be like in fifty years if I'm gone and
none of I've got no offspring. So interestingly, back to Korea.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Briefly, like China, they decided in the very early sixties,
as a new regime came to power, that families were
way too big. There are too many people, and shrinking
family sizes would fuel economic development by freeing up more
women to work and decreasing the number of dependents per worker.
And so they had all sorts of you know, societal
pressure and tax breaks and slogans have few children and
(29:52):
bring them up well. Later posters encourage parents to prioritize
quality over quantity, with mottos such as let's have two
children and raise them well or the frantic two children
is already too many. And it was absorbed into Asian culture,
including South Korean culture, and they just stopped having kids.
It's interesting, but as you point out, that ain't the
(30:14):
story in Italy, for instance, Germany, the US. It's an
interesting phenomenon.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Got to learn to satisfy your women for.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Your women's women's got satisfy you women's A national born
lover man.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
It's obvious. Of course we will finish strong next. I
don't believe Bernard Sanders actually did give twenty five dollars
to our charity, which is raising money some more people
can join Scouts, because it cost a couple hundred bucks
to get your kid into Scouts, and we want everybody
(30:50):
who has a kid who wants to get involved so
they can get the leadership skills and all that sort
of stuff to be able to do it. Trying to
raise one hundred thousand dollars, Bernard Sanders twenty five dollars.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Ard Sanders seven dollars.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
That's why it's twenty seven dollars now, I get it, okay.
Obviously one hundred bucks from Jack's Ukrainian girlfriend appreciate that
or did she her? She told me that if I
didn't start answering her questions, that our love was going
to die, and she was right. Twenty five dollars from
Walmart Bathroom Drain Liquors Association. Now it was a target,
(31:23):
and was it a story about you're drained to lick you?
Was it a story about someone else's kid, or was
it a story about my own kid? Your kid is
my own kid? Looking the drain at the target? Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow,
that's not good. That's right. I turned around and there
he was. I think it was Henry's like on his
hands and knees licking the drain. It's like one or two. Yeah,
(31:46):
that's here's a there's a tip there, Katie. Don't let
them out of your sight when they're little. You don't
know what they're doing. Do you know me?
Speaker 2 (31:52):
I'm I'm free range dad. I'm let them get dirty.
It's better for their immune system. Black blah blah.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I see that. I'm screaming. Ah. He's snatching them up,
drawing the line. Yeah, oh my, that's rough.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
You know, if you tried hard, you could come up
with a more disgusting place to lick. But I don't
want to be part of that brainstorming session.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
That's cross. I think at the time that's what we
were saying, is like that might be the single worst
thing to be hard to beat without way of breaking
into a plant or something. Well, and if somebody comes
up with it, I don't want to hear it. Joe,
(32:37):
they've got some final thoughts Armstrong and Show.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Here's your os for final thoughts, Joe Getty, let's get
a final thought from everybody on the crew.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Mike Lengelow lead us off. Yeah, I just made my
twenty five dollars donation to the US. It's gonna be
an the name listening to CD and staring off while
running the A and G Show.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
So I like it, beautiful, Katie Greener esteemed Newswoman As
a final thought, Katie, we have a.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
New Katie's Corner up at Armstrong Getty dot com as well.
That includes the AI George Washington video.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Oh that's good. Oh, Glenn Beck interviewing George Washington. That's
a great get. As we say in the business, Jack
a final.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Thought for us, Yes, we'll get a total for today.
See where we are currently. Go to I'm shore onion
Getty dot com. Click on the donate thing. It's super
easy get more people into scouting. It's been so great
for my son seventy nine thousand and three seventy seven.
Really want fantastic get to one hundred grand before the
end of the show tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
So please a little bit a gave whatever you can, Yeah,
little or a lot wales My final thought. I mentioned
this jack to Jack off the air. I invited the
fellows over for a bourbon last night. Anybody who thinks
a bourbon is going to be a bourbon is a fool.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I could use a n app slightly weakened. I don't
know anything about hard liquor. I was a beer drinker.
How many bourbons is too many? And how much do
you drink at a time?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Usually, Well that's the thing. How big a poor are
you pouring?
Speaker 1 (34:12):
It's large. It doesn't come in like in individual cans
like beer.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Uh huh morevida. You have a freeer hand. So it was,
you know, just over a little ice, several of them.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
What are you gonna do? And something you do SIPs
of Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, unless you got like a Rob Reiner's son problem.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, Armstrong and Geeddy rightbick got another grueling four hour workday.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
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We'll see you then, God Bless America hits the Armstrong
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Speaker 2 (35:10):
So I wish that what Susie Wilde said, instead of
just being the usual Washington pissing match to a discussion
of it. It's an expression, it's not an actual content. No, no,
let it go unsat which channel has
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