December 1, 2025 • 35 mins
Hour 1 of A&G features...
- How much we gained, Cyber Monday & attitudes on the news
- Katie Green's Headlines!
- Controversy around strikes on Venezuelan drug boats
- Mailbag!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty Armstrong, and Jetty
and He Is Armstrong and Yeddyck live from Studio C.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
See signor I see bumps and junkies. Having stolen all
the copper wire and everything still works.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
That's good. Good to be back. We are in a
dimly lit room, deep from the bowels of the Armstrong
and getting communications compound to kick off a new week,
a new month. And today we're under the tutelage of
our general manager. The scale, the four bathroom scale. Who
will protect the scale? Guys gonna ask who one now,
who gained the most weight over the last week. Now, Katie,
(00:52):
you don't count because you're pregnant. You're growing another You're
growing another human being inside you, so that does not count.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I will tell you it is a great Thanksgiving when
everybody just kind of excuses you for eating for two.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Oh yeah, that's a good one. I'm eating for two.
So get me more pie. It maybe needs pie. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So, in answer to your question, at one point two
days ago, I was up three point six pounds.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh you may have beaten me.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, yeah, although I have shaved off two of those
pounds already.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, I don't know if that counts. I don't know
if you're allowed to lose weight. Do they get your peak?
Wait a minute, we should have looked at the rules
before the whole thing started. Boy, how what should you gain?
You gained that much weight at one point?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, absolutely, And I looked at the scale. I think
it was a Saturday morning, went uh and decided that
the weekend would be one of austerity.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
And physically, I feel like you had an advantage of
being at home with your scale. I was on the
road the entire time, so I didn't have a scale
to turn two. Now to frighten me into uh to
getting my act together, let me look at them. Check
the numbers again real quick, because I.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Think checking the numbers most shows are referring to like
the stock market weights.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Michael, how did you do well? Let me put it
this way.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I ate three fourths of a banana cream pie by myself,
and so I got to think, I'm up there a
couple of pounds.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
And there you go, and you lost three toes. Michael's
got the diabetes if you don't know, so he can
make those I ran it off? He ran off your
toes or r. I'm up three and a quarter three
three point two five pounds from when I when I
left the show. Pretty good. If I can do that
for Christmas again, I'll be in an entirely new zip
code by the time the new year starts.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Tell you what, I could eat apple pie for breakfast
five days a week and not get tired of it.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I eat pie year round, as everyone knows. But uh,
gravy and stuffing is not usually around.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Man.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Gravy stuffing, mashed potatoes, turkey, all mixed together kind of
is like the greatest flavor on earth to me. God,
I love that, and I did eat a.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Lot of Do you guys just mix your food together
or do you actually keep it like separate.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I actually put it in a blender and make it
into a shake smoothie. Yeah, it's nice in there. It's
thanks to freshing.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Put some mice in there. Some ice in there, Okay,
some mice, what the hell? And then I have my
Thanksgiving shake piping hot through a straw while I watched
the football game. Oh my god. Anyway, we're back. Everybody's back.
For a couple of weeks before Christmas starts, and plenty
of news stories to follow, plenty of horrible things happened.
(03:30):
And today, of course, today is cyber Monday, for crying
out loud. So that's how I'm surprised we work. I know,
why don't we take cybern Day off well with having
to go into the office to do our online shopping
because the internet connection is fat over So later I
want Joe to lay out the entire history of cyber
Monday once again. Every year. It is what is known
(03:51):
as a pseudo event in the media world. You create
an event and then report on it as if it's
something that happened out of the blue. It is a
complete cyber Monday. It is not a real thing. Same
with Black Friday, but which was a couple of days ago.
But yeah, Cyber Monday and I first two news channels
I flipped on today or day it's cyber Monday, as
if that's.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
A thing, you know, like it's just I should be
amused by that. I'm not, which which brings me to
a question I want to ask you and a little
behind the scenes peak here Jack and I we you know,
chat with the staff about the sound we have and
that sort of stuff before the show. But we haven't
really compared notes or talked about much.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Haven't really. We haven't talked about anything, all right.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So, having spent a week away with family and travel
and eating and the rest of it and all, what
is your attitude coming back to work about the world,
about politics, about the things we talk about. Do you
have a vibe, a mood, a framework as you come back.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I was going to be completely honest, and this might
run contrary to how I make my living. Most of
the stuff we talk about is a waste of time.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
My only disagreement would be that it's ugly and corrosive
and it scars your soul and is performative and idiotic.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
That's all I would add. Yeah, well, a lot of it,
a tremendous amount of it is nothing. Is absolutely nothing. Yeah,
that's very frustrating. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Well, I'm reinspired though, to seek out that which is
notenty that matters, plenty of things that matter, that are
worth talking about, that are real, that should get more time,
as opposed to things that are not real that occupy
lots and lots of cable news show hours and a
lot of radio hours across the country. There's no doubt
things that are just not real. There's real a cyber
(05:43):
Monday in terms of their significance right right, very long lasting.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, it is obviously horrifying that that one National Guard
member died and then he got another one clinging life.
That's just an awful story. I hated the fact that
it immediately went since I turned into the Sunday Shows
a little bit yesterday to see what was going on,
it immediately went to the which administration is to blame.
I don't think we used to do that when a
(06:10):
tragedy like that occurred. I feel like there was more
time spent just kind of as a country, what is
the meaning of this, what needs to be done? What
is the risk as opposed to him right off the
bat going to as a Biden or Trump Biden or Trump,
which is just also very frustrating.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
And I realized how quaint and old timey this is.
But usually there'd be a little time spent assembling a
fact or two. Yeah, we actually know before we analyze,
we probably ought to factualize. But the fact is that
the couple of guards people were shot by a nut
job from Afghanistan and one of them is dead and
one of them is clinging life.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And that is a horrible story. Got that poor woman.
But we'll talk about that a little more or later.
Could be the story of the next month or so.
Is the whole blasting the people on the boat down
by Venezuela, and whether or not a couple of them
were clinging to the boat when we blasted them again
and killed them. That's anonymous sources from one newspaper, So
(07:07):
that needs to be nailed down first. Sure, again, let's
get some facts. What if those get nailed down, then
that's quite the story. The fact that we that Trump
told the Maduro, the leader of Venezuela, what day before yesterday,
you gotta get out of there or we're gonna kill
you you and your family. Go Now, wow, how long
is that deadline? Before? I don't know. Marines are storming
(07:31):
the beach in Venezuela. I don't know what's gonna happen
on there.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
And then Trump pardons a drug lord who used to
be the president of Honduras.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I don't know that story very well.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, I think I have an idea what's going on there.
But we can talk about that in a little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
He did pardon the turkeys right before Thanksgiving. There's some
funny stuff around that. The way talk about that was
pretty funny. Every sot on crime. That's what I say,
as woke. The turkeys committed a crime. What was the
crime the turkey's committed? Delicious? This is, you know, excessive pecking.
(08:05):
Oh my god, I can feel the almost four pounds
I gained. I can feel it when I put my
socks on this morning. Yeah, yeah, dang it. I need ozimpic.
Can we start endorsing that a salespeople or uh, I
need to endorse this ozempic like starting it? Need today bound? Yeah,
it doesn't matter which one you're starting it like noon today.
(08:25):
I need to be on one of those pills so
I can get my socks on. Let's start the show
officially and then we'll be off and running. I'm Jack Armstrong.
He's Joe Getty. Happy to be back. It is December first, Monday,
brand new month. Oh my god, the rent it's too
damn no doubt you're twenty twenty five or Armstrong and geddy,
and we approve of this program.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Happy birthday to my big kid Caitlin, by the way,
who was born. Let me do the mass thirty three
years ago. Today had a fantastic Thanksgiving week. She and
her two siblings were all here at the house having
a fantastic celeration. So it is super anyway, Happy birthday cake.
All right, let's begin officially now. According to FCC rules
and regulations, here we go.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
At mark retailers are hoping to add a new spin
to their sales events, leaning into artificial intelligence. In the
weeks leading up to peak holiday spending, chat GBT maker
open Ai partnered with Walmart and Target. Over half of
shoppers set in a recent survey they plan to use
AI this year. This year, Amazon's offering its own chatbot
called Rufus, where you can take a screenshot of a
(09:26):
shopping list and automatically add those items to your card.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well, I'll save a full minute. I like that's a
good name. That is a good name for your chatbot. Yo,
rufous These socks iPhone on sale.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Rufus Oh yeah, Hanson says, we have a chatbot at
the Armstrong Getty store called dufus.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Oh free shipping today from the Ang superstore. That's our
Cyber Monday special. Seriously, okay, for real, we have an action.
You have a cyber Monday special that's very cool. Armstrong
and Getty dot com. Get your favorite ang fan a
ruin the entire nation, Gavin News some twenty twenty eight
T shirt.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I want to have a conversation with Joe. As Joe mentioned,
we don't talk during when we're ninety nine percent of
the talking Joe and I do between each other is
on the microphone. Correct, And so I have a conversation
about a I want to have later in the show.
I took in so much AI information over the weekend.
Super fascinating to me anyway, and I'm more convinced than
(10:29):
ever that this is very, very big, maybe the biggest
thing that's ever happened on planet Earth, including the metiaorite
that hit the dinosaurs, and is going to happen in
the next couple of years. So this deserves discussion. Easy
for you to say, signed Stegas store Segast. That would
have been a good punch, would have been great. Oh yeah,
there you go. Months us off to a bad start.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Damnit, Pie, that's your problem, too much, Pie, that's your problem, Fatty.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Is the sentence to get us into Sigma two? Isn't
that a direct quote from Abe Simpson. Yeah, years ago. Yes,
it is. That is a Simpsons life. Too much pie,
that's your problem, fatty. So we've got headlines on the
way and as a problem for all of us, and
we'll be right Backstay here. Hey, I drove halfway across
the country. It was fabulous. We stopped in Las Vegas
(11:22):
for a night. We stopped in Santa Fe, New Mexico
for a night. Was amazing, and then lots of driving.
And I want to talk about there's great land of
ours a.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Little bit later. That sounds good. Let's figure out who's
reporting what first. Is the leave story with Katie Green? Hey, Katie,
how was your Thanksgiving break?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It was nice? I'm still full most Yeah, and you've
got that great excuse I'm eating for two milk that
he for your pardon the expression. Unfortunately, my own parents
requested that I returned with the joke before your headline,
So thank you. Why did the cowboy buy a wiener
dog because he wanted to get a long, little doggie,
(11:58):
which is a classic way to start the month. It's
a very cute dog, very cutul Yes, Katie, alrighty.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Three headlines around the National Guard CBS Nome says National
Guard shooting suspect was radicalized in the United States. NPR
US Titans immigration after National Guard shooting and from the
Free Beacon suspect and DC ambush of two National guardsmen
is Afghan national who entered the United States during the
(12:28):
Biden administration.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Right, I don't know that I want to get into
the Biden's fault of Trump's fault thing. If it's true
that the guy was radicalized in the US, I think
that makes it the most interesting story.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Oh and he was among the Afghan soldiers who was
most loyal and served with the US for a long time,
precisely the sort of folks we needed to get out.
It just could be that very small percentage that's don't
go sideways, or he could have.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Just gone nuts, the same all the other shooters go
Nutso whatever that is, Wow true From NBC.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Trump's peace push heads to Moscow after quote very productive
US Ukraine talks.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, so I was surprised to read Mark Halprin's analysis
of where things are. Marco Rubio made some strong statements
yesterday about ending the war between Ukraine and Russia, and
Mark Halprin he said, we're closer to peace than we've
ever been. Uh, it all depends on whether or not
Putin actually wants peace. Well, there are two things going
(13:34):
on here that I think are interesting. Number one, and
they both have to do with the fact that Russia
is on the front foot. They now have the advantage
in drone warfare Ukraine did for a while. They're you know,
retooled and gaining grounds, slowly but gaining it, and so
Ukraine might be more motivated to make an unholy piece
with Russia. On the other hand, Putin might think, why
(13:56):
would I do that?
Speaker 7 (13:57):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
There needs to be some threat to Putin otherwise, Yeah,
why would he stop?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
From the Wall Street Journal, America's tariffs jolted the global economy.
It's AI spending is helping save it. M like five companies.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
My dad and I were talking about this several times
over the weekend, that like five companies are driving the
entire stock market records all the time in the world economy.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
And Michael's not ready to make the noise, so I will.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
That's a little scary. From The New York Post.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Scrammeting is the brutal news side effect of chronic cannabis use.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
As er visits serge. We've talked about this before, and
apparently it's on the rise. Scrambling that's when you vomit
and scream while you're vomiting.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Scrambler completely loosing your mind and and heaving at the
same time.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
It doesn't pleasant, it doesn't sound like a party.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
From study fines do lions have accents? Study shows big
cats from different African regions roar indistinct.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Dialects or y'all wow yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And finally this one from the Babylon Bee, No thanks,
says hungry homeless man after being offered Thanksgiving marshmallow jello salad.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Oh that's funny. That was a real topic of conversation
at our house. Is My nieces insisted on it, and
so my sister in law whipped it up and it
was popular.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Really. I actually bought some at the grocery store because
we weren't going to have it just for old time's sake.
In Mina. We had quite the conversation about that where
it would come from? Somebody? Would it would just appear
on Thanksgiving tables for some reason night And look, I'm
not against eating crap, especially on holidays.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
But once I sounded out what gelatine was. I have
not gone back.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
What is gelatine? It was?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
It was an ever present part of our childhoods right
every gathering, popluck, dinner, whatever it's it's ground up cattle
hooves and that bothers you. Well, yeah, I'm not starving.
I don't need to eat the hooves. I'll eat the
yummy parts nine end in the various ribs. But these
there's some strong takes about marshmallow, gelatin saddalite.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
We'll take your calls. So this might be the scandal
using my finger quotes that dominates the next several weeks.
So we should at least go through the details of it,
whether Pete hegseeth the Secretary of War order to strike
on two people clinging to a boat, which would be
a war crime if we're at war, and I'm not
sure we're at war, So all the details of that
(16:47):
coming up. Stay tuned.
Speaker 8 (16:49):
Armstrong and Getty growing bipartisan alarm over President Trump's escalating
military campaign in the Caribbean Sea, Tom Lawmaker saying the
US military he may have violated international law. In September,
after The Washington Post reported that US forces carried out
a second airstrike on a suspected drug boat after the
(17:11):
initial strike left two survivors struggling in the water, allegedly
to comply with Defense Secretary Pete Hegsett's initial orders to
kill all passengers aboard.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
So let's lay this out in an important way for you,
because this could be the scandal of the next couple
of weeks, definitely if it can be proven to be true,
and that's an if it's anonymous sources to The Washington Post,
Pete Hegseth himself says this did not happen. Keep that
in mind.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
On the other hand, Pete says it is fabricated, inflammatory
and derogatory.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
On the other hand, it is real enough for you
don't launch investigations in the House unless you are the
majority party. I mean you get to decide that. And
the Republicans have decided, yeah, we are going to both houses.
Republican led Arms Services committees in the House and the
Senate are opening bipartisan inquiry. So they must think there's
enough there there to look into it, or they think
(18:08):
this is going to be a political scandal in the
news and that they can open an inquiry and quickly
show that it's not true. Maybe that's it, right, that's
a possibility.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
You've got the initial strike on one of the drug boats,
alleged drug votes, and as we discussed before vacation, there
are there's some disagreement as to how legal that is,
although the Chief Executive has a hell of a lot
of discretion and that sort of thing. But what happened
here was they hit the drug boat. Then there are
a couple of guys clinging to the wreckage they had survived,
(18:38):
and allegedly Admiral Frank Mitchell Bradley then off ordered a
second strike, specifically to kill the two survivors. And according
to the legal experts I've read, and you know the law,
you can find somebody to disagree with virtually any point
of view. According to legal experts i've read, if it
is true, it's murder.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
If sands or butts, well, if it's a war, do that.
If it's a war, it's a war crime. But we're
not sure it's a war yet. The courts need to
rule on that. And if it's not a war, it's
not a war crime. It's well, the war crime is murder.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
So yeah, because you're not allowed to just snuff survivors
if they pose no military threat and they go through
the case history of that, and it's pretty cut and dried.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Honestly, Well, I don't know what else is there to
say about this. It depends on whether it's true or not.
I mean, I if it's true, Pete Heggzet's in big trouble. Well,
Donald Trump himself, and this is quoting from the Wall
Street Journal version of this story, Trump himself said, I
would not have wanted that a second strike. The first
strike was very lethal, it was fine, but I would
have not have wanted a second strike. So Trump himself
(19:45):
is saying NAT shouldn't happened the second strike. Pete Heggzeth
is saying that didn't happen. Uh So if it did happen,
I guess Hegzeth has to go and he gets prosecuted
by somebody.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Well, it depends if this Bradley guy went off on
his own and ordered the follow up, that's what the
inquiry will be.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
So it might not be Hegsnath but Hexeth.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
But if I were this Admiral Bradley, I would definitely
be consulting friends as to who's the best attorney in town.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Kind of hard to imagine him going off on his own.
I mean, would you do that? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Take out The order is take out that boat, and
he more or less did, But there are server I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Know, he's high enough up the ranks to know that.
You bomb the target and then there's two people alive,
but of no threat left, you don't snuff them.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Well, right, given how cut and dried this seems to be,
that would be extraordinary. You're right, Well, that's why it's
like the most serious crime known to humankind, murder.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Did it happens? That's the question. Wow. So I wonder
what the investigation is going to come down to. Was
Pete Hegzeth? Where I guess I need to know was
Pete Hegzeth?
Speaker 9 (21:06):
Like?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Where was he on the golf course talking to this
guy on the phone or on discord or something? I mean,
what was the communication channel? How many people were aware
of the communication anybody? Is it just the two of them?
Is just going to be his word against the other
dude's word? Is it going to come down to that?
I wonder it certainly could.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Although I think there's enough of a paper chain slash,
enough people involved. I mean, it's not like the hexath
would call up Bradley on their personal cell phones and say, hey, hey,
take another shot. Why don't you play? I mean it
goes through the chain of command. These calls may be
recorded for quality control. Are the phone calls recorded or
the transmissions? Do we have records of these things? Seem
(21:48):
they record all those damn calls and the quality never improves.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
So what's going on with that?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Michael plays sixty three and sixty four back to back
as Mike Turner and Don Bagan.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
They're both Republican Congress fellas.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
Congress does not have information that that had occurred. Both
the chairman of the Center Armed Services Committee, Chairman of
the House Armed Services Committee, and ranking members have opened investigations. Obviously,
if that occurred, that would be very serious, and I
agree that that would would be an illegal act.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
If the facts go to where the Washington Post article
takes it, well, then.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
We'll have to go from there.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
But if it was as if the article said, that
is a violation of the law of war. When people
want of surrender, you don't kill them, and I have
to pose an eminent threat. It's hard to believe that
two people on a raft trying to survive would pose
an eminent threat.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
So it doesn't sound like to me, and I somehow
missed this yesterday in the coverage, it doesn't sound like
to me anybody's disputing the two guys on the raft
and then a strike where they get obliterated. I think
Hegseth is he's disputing that happened at all. Yeah, that's
(23:01):
thets are what he's disputing. The law is the part
that I haven't seen much dispute on. I haven't heard
anybody saying no, no, no, that's fine. You can obliterate
them because they could have used as sharp of the
wreckage and swum ashore and stab somebody with it. No,
nobody's saying that.
Speaker 9 (23:16):
No.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I haven't hear anybody say that either. So the claim
from the current Secretary of War is that they were
all killed in the first strike.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
He hasn't gotten that specific. He just said it was fabricated.
Let's see if there's another quote from hegas well.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Is there a video. If there's a video that exists
similar to the other videos, it's going to be pretty
easy to nail that part down. Yeah. I wonder if
that I would imagine sticks around and I would imagine
that there is a video according to who is this
law professor and the Free press Jed rubin Feld, And
let's see that according to the post Bradley issued has
(23:58):
killed the survivor's order in compliance with an earlier command
given by Hegxeth to kill everybody. Even if true, that's
no defense for Bradley, Like in order to kill prisoners,
in order to kill defensive shipwreck survivors rarely or probably
falls in the rare category of orders so manifestly unlawful
that soldiers have a duty to disobey it, which reminds
me I was reading in the National Review. I think
(24:19):
it is somebody Jeff Blair was speculating that. You remember
when those Democrats came out with that dopey video a
week and a half ago about you do not have
to follow illegal orders, and everybody's like, what are they
talking about? Nobody named anything, whether they had heard rumors.
It seems like a heck of a coincidence.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
It was either an unbelievably lucky coincidence or they had
gotten word. Wow, what a guy that high up the
chain in the military. I mean, it's uh, there's like
a money python bit about this, But I mean, so
(25:01):
Pete eggs that says kill them all, and you take
that to mean okay, I'll just keep firing. I don't
care if the guy gets off the boat, swims to shore,
drives a card to his house, and is laying on
the couch watching television. I will still kill him, right,
surely would be extraordinary. As I said before, Uh huh,
which is why there's an investigation. Let's hope it didn't happen. Yeah,
(25:23):
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Speaker 1 (26:26):
It's good to be right. So I'm just looking at
the very latest is Trump says he believes Hegzeth when
Eggszeth says that he did not order the strike. So
now it comes down to whether there was a strike
or not. We need to figure that out. There's got
to be video. All about the facts got There's got
to be a video there, So that's the that's the
first stop. Is there a video of two guys cling
(26:47):
into a boat and then all of a sudden they
disappear and then once once that video, if it exists,
is shown then it's okay, Well who ordered that? Who
made that decision?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I don't remember the name of the bloke who was
in charge of that region. I think he was a
Navy guy, an admirable admiral. It's hard to say admiral
without saying admirable. It's always been a problem for me anyway,
because most of them are anyway. He announced that he
was resigning early, and there was speculation about whether it
(27:20):
was discontent with the whole blasting drug boats out of
the water thing, which is possible. I wonder if that
kill everybody connected. Order went out and that guy said, whoa, whoa, whoa, No,
not going there.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Well, I hope we find out. So I just saw
they on the TV before we take a break that
Denver won at the very end of the game against
Washington last night. And I watched some of the football
on Thanksgiving, like a lot of you probably did. It's
amazing how many NFL games come down to like ap play,
and you have like three or four games where you
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make that play and you get to go to the
super Bowl, like the Kansas City Chiefs did last year,
or you have a couple of those plays not go
your way. Like Kamas City Chiefs this year, and yeah,
I don't even make the playoffs. I mean it's just
you wouldn't think it'd be that final line, whether or
not you win or lose. But you make the miraculous pass,
oh and they dropped it, you lose.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Right, there's so much parody in the league, which is
what they've been going for. You got the Mighty Rams
falling to the Panthers not too long ago, sad Panthers
of Carolina, making the NFC West super exciting again for
Niners fans in particular. But yeah, yeah, it's great, super exciting,
(28:36):
some good games.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Sure, a good thing to do when you're sitting there
and your stomach's trying to digest all these weird different
foods that don't normally eat in quantities that no human
beings should ever take in. It's so good, Oh it is.
And then like at least with my mom around, like
ten minutes after you've like were in super pain. Anybody
want another? Whatever? Sure, I'll try getting a little more
(29:04):
piwn ball.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And I tell you what, I made a move I
should have made many years ago, and Fellas, it's gonna
cost you a couple of bucks all right, save your pennies,
cancel the.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Golf is whatever you have? Is this about your bidet? No? No,
although by god I love that thing.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
No.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I got the outdoor TV. Buy the grill so when
I'm grilling.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I can watch footballs refreshment in hand. It was so great.
That's the big leap forward and happiness. So Dali Lama
is wrong.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
The way to become happy is to have a television
next year, grill. Oh, money can't buy happiness, but it
can buy you a big ass TV right next to
your grill, and that can give you happiness.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Oh man, we would like to hear what you think
about the whole Hexa thing. Also, we've got mail bag
on the way in more news of the day to
catch up on. I hope you didn't Game three and
a quarter pounds like I did. Stay tuned. So we
drove all the way to Kansas and road trip. So
road trip and then being there and everything like that. Man,
(30:13):
by the time we got back, we were tired of
any sort of restaurant food. Just I don't know what
it is about eating not at home. At some point
I just reach a limit. I don't know. Maybe some
of y'all can endlessly eat at restaurants, but I cannot
just something that something they put in it that I
just need, Like I want a peanut butter sandwich or
(30:34):
bowl of cereal or something that's not that. Yeah, the
first few are great, but you're right, there's a fatigue
that sets in. Absolutely true. Here's your freedom.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Loving quota today in honor of the Netflix hit series
Deaths by Lightning, about the assassination of James A.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Garfield that Judy and I just started last night. Is
it as good as people tell me? It's very well done. Cool,
We're at one episode in, so it's hard to say
for sure. I gotta check that out. Garfield dies in
the right. It's compelling. Spoiler alert. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
We've got a series of James A. Garfield quotes. I
have not had time to vet them, and this one
seems a tad perfect and modern. But Garfield said, the
truths will set you free, but first it will make
you miserable.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
That's interesting. Yeah, Yeah, a lot of truths there. Well,
I can't always be the case, sometimes it is. Yeah,
here's another one for you.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
A brave man is a man who dares to look
the devil in the face and tell him he is
the devil.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
These are James Garfield quotes. That's right, old Jimmy Garfield.
I don't have any Garfield knowledge whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Well, you know, I take you know Netflix series with
a grain of salt if there's any truth to it all.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
He was an extremely intelligent and honorable man who did
not want to be president.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
He was shocked when he got nominated. Very good first episode.
I recommend it Netflix if you have the money for it. Mailbag,
old mail Bag at Armstrong and Getty dot Com. Anna,
Luisa Wright, So, welcome back. Hope your vacations were great.
UH missed y'all, but I honestly admit it was nice
not to worry about keeping up with the world.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
In short, please break the bad news about the state
of the world slowly, maybe focus on interesting vacation stories
for a couple of days. I hear you, I hear you,
my darling. Let's see how about this. Uh, this is Dennis,
welcome back. I hope you had wonderful Thanksgiving vacations.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
We didn't well.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I missed live shows, particularly after the DC shooting. The
best of broadcasts were great and very entertaining, probably better
than this. Ben He mentions that both the DC and
Stockton shootings were in places that called themselves sanctuary cities.
The Stockton, California the murder of four people, including three children.
Still not exactly clear what was going on there, looks
(32:52):
gang related. Sanctuary city.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Does that anything to do with it? Though? Don't. Nope,
don't know. Let's see how about this?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Oh, j T and Livermore says, I recognize somebody actually
had to spend some of every weekday during their vacation
to post the best of podcast episodes. Actually, we would
try to get it ready in advance, but thank you
for the holiday present.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
He says. They're really really well crafted. Nice job. Mike Hanson,
executive producer. Oh, Mike works like crazy on that. Let's see.
Moving on. Yeah, so farly better than what you're listening to. Now,
that's the problem. Don't make him quite so good? Would
you stop? So far?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
The Joe highlight of my listening has been Joe's turn
as the anti critic critic who gleeferly preaches that critics
should be the first to go up against the wall
in the upcoming revolution. Hilarious and ironic, hllronic, ironeous. I
don't know my Jack highlight has been a self annoyed
claim of being grounded. Well, I personally know that within
a few months of said grounding, Jack was contemplating the
(33:55):
purchase of a giraffe. Let's screams to the world, ground
you are like owning endangered species from another continent.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
You keep being you Jack. Oh, that's funny, I remember that.
Oh gosh, I was briefly shopping for a giraffe several
years ago. Oh but then he throws in.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Over the years, there have been many segments that included
the claim that the subjects were the worst ever, and
the replays had there were no exception. But that said,
the segment covering the stench of some Brazilian butt lifts
gone wrong truly is the worst one ever. It should
definitely be pulled from the replayed Boldpool.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I don't want to hear that. No, no, it's.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Absolutely terrible, you know, speaking of being a credit of critics,
I succumb to the temptation during the vocation to crack
open the New York Post briefly. I don't know what
got into me, and one of the lead stories was
a perfectly infuriating or infuriatingly perfect example of what's so
(35:04):
ugly and corrosive and stupid about the Internet and social media.
It's seriously, I went from zero to I want to
hurt somebody in about forty five seconds.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
And are you gonna tell us about that later? Is
that what you're nuts?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yes, yes, I try. We'll try to work that in. Yes,
I'm sorry. We'll discuss that coming up in the in
the next hour.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Cyber Monday, everybody Joe to do his annual explanation of
where cyber Monday comes from, because I can't believe the
media doesn't tell us this. They act like it came
down from God, the idea of cyber Monday. Well, and
as you point out, it's a what do you call it?
A pseudob event, some contrived event, and then everybody acts
(35:48):
like it happened to them. Well, I guess we better
report on it as opposed to you created it prides
me nuts anyway, lots on the way, stay
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Here, Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty Armstrong, and Jetty
and He Is Armstrong and Yeddyck live from Studio C.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
See signor I see bumps and junkies. Having stolen all
the copper wire and everything still works.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
That's good. Good to be back. We are in a
dimly lit room, deep from the bowels of the Armstrong
and getting communications compound to kick off a new week,
a new month. And today we're under the tutelage of
our general manager. The scale, the four bathroom scale. Who
will protect the scale? Guys gonna ask who one now,
who gained the most weight over the last week. Now, Katie,
(00:52):
you don't count because you're pregnant. You're growing another You're
growing another human being inside you, so that does not count.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I will tell you it is a great Thanksgiving when
everybody just kind of excuses you for eating for two.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Oh yeah, that's a good one. I'm eating for two.
So get me more pie. It maybe needs pie. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So, in answer to your question, at one point two
days ago, I was up three point six pounds.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh you may have beaten me.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, yeah, although I have shaved off two of those
pounds already.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, I don't know if that counts. I don't know
if you're allowed to lose weight. Do they get your peak?
Wait a minute, we should have looked at the rules
before the whole thing started. Boy, how what should you gain?
You gained that much weight at one point?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, absolutely, And I looked at the scale. I think
it was a Saturday morning, went uh and decided that
the weekend would be one of austerity.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
And physically, I feel like you had an advantage of
being at home with your scale. I was on the
road the entire time, so I didn't have a scale
to turn two. Now to frighten me into uh to
getting my act together, let me look at them. Check
the numbers again real quick, because I.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Think checking the numbers most shows are referring to like
the stock market weights.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Michael, how did you do well? Let me put it
this way.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
I ate three fourths of a banana cream pie by myself,
and so I got to think, I'm up there a
couple of pounds.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
And there you go, and you lost three toes. Michael's
got the diabetes if you don't know, so he can
make those I ran it off? He ran off your
toes or r. I'm up three and a quarter three
three point two five pounds from when I when I
left the show. Pretty good. If I can do that
for Christmas again, I'll be in an entirely new zip
code by the time the new year starts.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Tell you what, I could eat apple pie for breakfast
five days a week and not get tired of it.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I eat pie year round, as everyone knows. But uh,
gravy and stuffing is not usually around.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Man.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Gravy stuffing, mashed potatoes, turkey, all mixed together kind of
is like the greatest flavor on earth to me. God,
I love that, and I did eat a.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Lot of Do you guys just mix your food together
or do you actually keep it like separate.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I actually put it in a blender and make it
into a shake smoothie. Yeah, it's nice in there. It's
thanks to freshing.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Put some mice in there. Some ice in there, Okay,
some mice, what the hell? And then I have my
Thanksgiving shake piping hot through a straw while I watched
the football game. Oh my god. Anyway, we're back. Everybody's back.
For a couple of weeks before Christmas starts, and plenty
of news stories to follow, plenty of horrible things happened.
(03:30):
And today, of course, today is cyber Monday, for crying
out loud. So that's how I'm surprised we work. I know,
why don't we take cybern Day off well with having
to go into the office to do our online shopping
because the internet connection is fat over So later I
want Joe to lay out the entire history of cyber
Monday once again. Every year. It is what is known
(03:51):
as a pseudo event in the media world. You create
an event and then report on it as if it's
something that happened out of the blue. It is a
complete cyber Monday. It is not a real thing. Same
with Black Friday, but which was a couple of days ago.
But yeah, Cyber Monday and I first two news channels
I flipped on today or day it's cyber Monday, as
if that's.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
A thing, you know, like it's just I should be
amused by that. I'm not, which which brings me to
a question I want to ask you and a little
behind the scenes peak here Jack and I we you know,
chat with the staff about the sound we have and
that sort of stuff before the show. But we haven't
really compared notes or talked about much.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Haven't really. We haven't talked about anything, all right.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So, having spent a week away with family and travel
and eating and the rest of it and all, what
is your attitude coming back to work about the world,
about politics, about the things we talk about. Do you
have a vibe, a mood, a framework as you come back.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I was going to be completely honest, and this might
run contrary to how I make my living. Most of
the stuff we talk about is a waste of time.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
My only disagreement would be that it's ugly and corrosive
and it scars your soul and is performative and idiotic.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
That's all I would add. Yeah, well, a lot of it,
a tremendous amount of it is nothing. Is absolutely nothing. Yeah,
that's very frustrating. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Well, I'm reinspired though, to seek out that which is
notenty that matters, plenty of things that matter, that are
worth talking about, that are real, that should get more time,
as opposed to things that are not real that occupy
lots and lots of cable news show hours and a
lot of radio hours across the country. There's no doubt
things that are just not real. There's real a cyber
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Monday in terms of their significance right right, very long lasting.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, it is obviously horrifying that that one National Guard
member died and then he got another one clinging life.
That's just an awful story. I hated the fact that
it immediately went since I turned into the Sunday Shows
a little bit yesterday to see what was going on,
it immediately went to the which administration is to blame.
I don't think we used to do that when a
(06:10):
tragedy like that occurred. I feel like there was more
time spent just kind of as a country, what is
the meaning of this, what needs to be done? What
is the risk as opposed to him right off the
bat going to as a Biden or Trump Biden or Trump,
which is just also very frustrating.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
And I realized how quaint and old timey this is.
But usually there'd be a little time spent assembling a
fact or two. Yeah, we actually know before we analyze,
we probably ought to factualize. But the fact is that
the couple of guards people were shot by a nut
job from Afghanistan and one of them is dead and
one of them is clinging life.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And that is a horrible story. Got that poor woman.
But we'll talk about that a little more or later.
Could be the story of the next month or so.
Is the whole blasting the people on the boat down
by Venezuela, and whether or not a couple of them
were clinging to the boat when we blasted them again
and killed them. That's anonymous sources from one newspaper, So
(07:07):
that needs to be nailed down first. Sure, again, let's
get some facts. What if those get nailed down, then
that's quite the story. The fact that we that Trump
told the Maduro, the leader of Venezuela, what day before yesterday,
you gotta get out of there or we're gonna kill
you you and your family. Go Now, wow, how long
is that deadline? Before? I don't know. Marines are storming
(07:31):
the beach in Venezuela. I don't know what's gonna happen
on there.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
And then Trump pardons a drug lord who used to
be the president of Honduras.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I don't know that story very well.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, I think I have an idea what's going on there.
But we can talk about that in a little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
He did pardon the turkeys right before Thanksgiving. There's some
funny stuff around that. The way talk about that was
pretty funny. Every sot on crime. That's what I say,
as woke. The turkeys committed a crime. What was the
crime the turkey's committed? Delicious? This is, you know, excessive pecking.
(08:05):
Oh my god, I can feel the almost four pounds
I gained. I can feel it when I put my
socks on this morning. Yeah, yeah, dang it. I need ozimpic.
Can we start endorsing that a salespeople or uh, I
need to endorse this ozempic like starting it? Need today bound? Yeah,
it doesn't matter which one you're starting it like noon today.
(08:25):
I need to be on one of those pills so
I can get my socks on. Let's start the show
officially and then we'll be off and running. I'm Jack Armstrong.
He's Joe Getty. Happy to be back. It is December first, Monday,
brand new month. Oh my god, the rent it's too
damn no doubt you're twenty twenty five or Armstrong and geddy,
and we approve of this program.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Happy birthday to my big kid Caitlin, by the way,
who was born. Let me do the mass thirty three
years ago. Today had a fantastic Thanksgiving week. She and
her two siblings were all here at the house having
a fantastic celeration. So it is super anyway, Happy birthday cake.
All right, let's begin officially now. According to FCC rules
and regulations, here we go.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
At mark retailers are hoping to add a new spin
to their sales events, leaning into artificial intelligence. In the
weeks leading up to peak holiday spending, chat GBT maker
open Ai partnered with Walmart and Target. Over half of
shoppers set in a recent survey they plan to use
AI this year. This year, Amazon's offering its own chatbot
called Rufus, where you can take a screenshot of a
(09:26):
shopping list and automatically add those items to your card.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well, I'll save a full minute. I like that's a
good name. That is a good name for your chatbot. Yo,
rufous These socks iPhone on sale.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Rufus Oh yeah, Hanson says, we have a chatbot at
the Armstrong Getty store called dufus.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Oh free shipping today from the Ang superstore. That's our
Cyber Monday special. Seriously, okay, for real, we have an action.
You have a cyber Monday special that's very cool. Armstrong
and Getty dot com. Get your favorite ang fan a
ruin the entire nation, Gavin News some twenty twenty eight
T shirt.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
I want to have a conversation with Joe. As Joe mentioned,
we don't talk during when we're ninety nine percent of
the talking Joe and I do between each other is
on the microphone. Correct, And so I have a conversation
about a I want to have later in the show.
I took in so much AI information over the weekend.
Super fascinating to me anyway, and I'm more convinced than
(10:29):
ever that this is very, very big, maybe the biggest
thing that's ever happened on planet Earth, including the metiaorite
that hit the dinosaurs, and is going to happen in
the next couple of years. So this deserves discussion. Easy
for you to say, signed Stegas store Segast. That would
have been a good punch, would have been great. Oh yeah,
there you go. Months us off to a bad start.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Damnit, Pie, that's your problem, too much, Pie, that's your problem, Fatty.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Is the sentence to get us into Sigma two? Isn't
that a direct quote from Abe Simpson. Yeah, years ago. Yes,
it is. That is a Simpsons life. Too much pie,
that's your problem, fatty. So we've got headlines on the
way and as a problem for all of us, and
we'll be right Backstay here. Hey, I drove halfway across
the country. It was fabulous. We stopped in Las Vegas
(11:22):
for a night. We stopped in Santa Fe, New Mexico
for a night. Was amazing, and then lots of driving.
And I want to talk about there's great land of
ours a.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Little bit later. That sounds good. Let's figure out who's
reporting what first. Is the leave story with Katie Green? Hey, Katie,
how was your Thanksgiving break?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It was nice? I'm still full most Yeah, and you've
got that great excuse I'm eating for two milk that
he for your pardon the expression. Unfortunately, my own parents
requested that I returned with the joke before your headline,
So thank you. Why did the cowboy buy a wiener
dog because he wanted to get a long, little doggie,
(11:58):
which is a classic way to start the month. It's
a very cute dog, very cutul Yes, Katie, alrighty.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Three headlines around the National Guard CBS Nome says National
Guard shooting suspect was radicalized in the United States. NPR
US Titans immigration after National Guard shooting and from the
Free Beacon suspect and DC ambush of two National guardsmen
is Afghan national who entered the United States during the
(12:28):
Biden administration.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Right, I don't know that I want to get into
the Biden's fault of Trump's fault thing. If it's true
that the guy was radicalized in the US, I think
that makes it the most interesting story.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Oh and he was among the Afghan soldiers who was
most loyal and served with the US for a long time,
precisely the sort of folks we needed to get out.
It just could be that very small percentage that's don't
go sideways, or he could have.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Just gone nuts, the same all the other shooters go
Nutso whatever that is, Wow true From NBC.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Trump's peace push heads to Moscow after quote very productive
US Ukraine talks.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, so I was surprised to read Mark Halprin's analysis
of where things are. Marco Rubio made some strong statements
yesterday about ending the war between Ukraine and Russia, and
Mark Halprin he said, we're closer to peace than we've
ever been. Uh, it all depends on whether or not
Putin actually wants peace. Well, there are two things going
(13:34):
on here that I think are interesting. Number one, and
they both have to do with the fact that Russia
is on the front foot. They now have the advantage
in drone warfare Ukraine did for a while. They're you know,
retooled and gaining grounds, slowly but gaining it, and so
Ukraine might be more motivated to make an unholy piece
with Russia. On the other hand, Putin might think, why
(13:56):
would I do that?
Speaker 7 (13:57):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
There needs to be some threat to Putin otherwise, Yeah,
why would he stop?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
From the Wall Street Journal, America's tariffs jolted the global economy.
It's AI spending is helping save it. M like five companies.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
My dad and I were talking about this several times
over the weekend, that like five companies are driving the
entire stock market records all the time in the world economy.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
And Michael's not ready to make the noise, so I will.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
That's a little scary. From The New York Post.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Scrammeting is the brutal news side effect of chronic cannabis use.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
As er visits serge. We've talked about this before, and
apparently it's on the rise. Scrambling that's when you vomit
and scream while you're vomiting.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Scrambler completely loosing your mind and and heaving at the
same time.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
It doesn't pleasant, it doesn't sound like a party.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
From study fines do lions have accents? Study shows big
cats from different African regions roar indistinct.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Dialects or y'all wow yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And finally this one from the Babylon Bee, No thanks,
says hungry homeless man after being offered Thanksgiving marshmallow jello salad.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Oh that's funny. That was a real topic of conversation
at our house. Is My nieces insisted on it, and
so my sister in law whipped it up and it
was popular.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Really. I actually bought some at the grocery store because
we weren't going to have it just for old time's sake.
In Mina. We had quite the conversation about that where
it would come from? Somebody? Would it would just appear
on Thanksgiving tables for some reason night And look, I'm
not against eating crap, especially on holidays.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
But once I sounded out what gelatine was. I have
not gone back.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
What is gelatine? It was?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
It was an ever present part of our childhoods right
every gathering, popluck, dinner, whatever it's it's ground up cattle
hooves and that bothers you. Well, yeah, I'm not starving.
I don't need to eat the hooves. I'll eat the
yummy parts nine end in the various ribs. But these
there's some strong takes about marshmallow, gelatin saddalite.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
We'll take your calls. So this might be the scandal
using my finger quotes that dominates the next several weeks.
So we should at least go through the details of it,
whether Pete hegseeth the Secretary of War order to strike
on two people clinging to a boat, which would be
a war crime if we're at war, and I'm not
sure we're at war, So all the details of that
(16:47):
coming up. Stay tuned.
Speaker 8 (16:49):
Armstrong and Getty growing bipartisan alarm over President Trump's escalating
military campaign in the Caribbean Sea, Tom Lawmaker saying the
US military he may have violated international law. In September,
after The Washington Post reported that US forces carried out
a second airstrike on a suspected drug boat after the
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initial strike left two survivors struggling in the water, allegedly
to comply with Defense Secretary Pete Hegsett's initial orders to
kill all passengers aboard.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
So let's lay this out in an important way for you,
because this could be the scandal of the next couple
of weeks, definitely if it can be proven to be true,
and that's an if it's anonymous sources to The Washington Post,
Pete Hegseth himself says this did not happen. Keep that
in mind.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
On the other hand, Pete says it is fabricated, inflammatory
and derogatory.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
On the other hand, it is real enough for you
don't launch investigations in the House unless you are the
majority party. I mean you get to decide that. And
the Republicans have decided, yeah, we are going to both houses.
Republican led Arms Services committees in the House and the
Senate are opening bipartisan inquiry. So they must think there's
enough there there to look into it, or they think
(18:08):
this is going to be a political scandal in the
news and that they can open an inquiry and quickly
show that it's not true. Maybe that's it, right, that's
a possibility.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
You've got the initial strike on one of the drug boats,
alleged drug votes, and as we discussed before vacation, there
are there's some disagreement as to how legal that is,
although the Chief Executive has a hell of a lot
of discretion and that sort of thing. But what happened
here was they hit the drug boat. Then there are
a couple of guys clinging to the wreckage they had survived,
(18:38):
and allegedly Admiral Frank Mitchell Bradley then off ordered a
second strike, specifically to kill the two survivors. And according
to the legal experts I've read, and you know the law,
you can find somebody to disagree with virtually any point
of view. According to legal experts i've read, if it
is true, it's murder.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
If sands or butts, well, if it's a war, do that.
If it's a war, it's a war crime. But we're
not sure it's a war yet. The courts need to
rule on that. And if it's not a war, it's
not a war crime. It's well, the war crime is murder.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
So yeah, because you're not allowed to just snuff survivors
if they pose no military threat and they go through
the case history of that, and it's pretty cut and dried.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Honestly, Well, I don't know what else is there to
say about this. It depends on whether it's true or not.
I mean, I if it's true, Pete Heggzet's in big trouble. Well,
Donald Trump himself, and this is quoting from the Wall
Street Journal version of this story, Trump himself said, I
would not have wanted that a second strike. The first
strike was very lethal, it was fine, but I would
have not have wanted a second strike. So Trump himself
(19:45):
is saying NAT shouldn't happened the second strike. Pete Heggzeth
is saying that didn't happen. Uh So if it did happen,
I guess Hegzeth has to go and he gets prosecuted
by somebody.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Well, it depends if this Bradley guy went off on
his own and ordered the follow up, that's what the
inquiry will be.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
So it might not be Hegsnath but Hexeth.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
But if I were this Admiral Bradley, I would definitely
be consulting friends as to who's the best attorney in town.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Kind of hard to imagine him going off on his own.
I mean, would you do that? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Take out The order is take out that boat, and
he more or less did, But there are server I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Know, he's high enough up the ranks to know that.
You bomb the target and then there's two people alive,
but of no threat left, you don't snuff them.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Well, right, given how cut and dried this seems to be,
that would be extraordinary. You're right, Well, that's why it's
like the most serious crime known to humankind, murder.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Did it happens? That's the question. Wow. So I wonder
what the investigation is going to come down to. Was
Pete Hegzeth? Where I guess I need to know was
Pete Hegzeth?
Speaker 9 (21:06):
Like?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Where was he on the golf course talking to this
guy on the phone or on discord or something? I mean,
what was the communication channel? How many people were aware
of the communication anybody? Is it just the two of them?
Is just going to be his word against the other
dude's word? Is it going to come down to that?
I wonder it certainly could.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Although I think there's enough of a paper chain slash,
enough people involved. I mean, it's not like the hexath
would call up Bradley on their personal cell phones and say, hey, hey,
take another shot. Why don't you play? I mean it
goes through the chain of command. These calls may be
recorded for quality control. Are the phone calls recorded or
the transmissions? Do we have records of these things? Seem
(21:48):
they record all those damn calls and the quality never improves.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
So what's going on with that?
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Michael plays sixty three and sixty four back to back
as Mike Turner and Don Bagan.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
They're both Republican Congress fellas.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
Congress does not have information that that had occurred. Both
the chairman of the Center Armed Services Committee, Chairman of
the House Armed Services Committee, and ranking members have opened investigations. Obviously,
if that occurred, that would be very serious, and I
agree that that would would be an illegal act.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
If the facts go to where the Washington Post article
takes it, well, then.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
We'll have to go from there.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
But if it was as if the article said, that
is a violation of the law of war. When people
want of surrender, you don't kill them, and I have
to pose an eminent threat. It's hard to believe that
two people on a raft trying to survive would pose
an eminent threat.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
So it doesn't sound like to me, and I somehow
missed this yesterday in the coverage, it doesn't sound like
to me anybody's disputing the two guys on the raft
and then a strike where they get obliterated. I think
Hegseth is he's disputing that happened at all. Yeah, that's
(23:01):
thets are what he's disputing. The law is the part
that I haven't seen much dispute on. I haven't heard
anybody saying no, no, no, that's fine. You can obliterate
them because they could have used as sharp of the
wreckage and swum ashore and stab somebody with it. No,
nobody's saying that.
Speaker 9 (23:16):
No.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I haven't hear anybody say that either. So the claim
from the current Secretary of War is that they were
all killed in the first strike.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
He hasn't gotten that specific. He just said it was fabricated.
Let's see if there's another quote from hegas well.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Is there a video. If there's a video that exists
similar to the other videos, it's going to be pretty
easy to nail that part down. Yeah. I wonder if
that I would imagine sticks around and I would imagine
that there is a video according to who is this
law professor and the Free press Jed rubin Feld, And
let's see that according to the post Bradley issued has
(23:58):
killed the survivor's order in compliance with an earlier command
given by Hegxeth to kill everybody. Even if true, that's
no defense for Bradley, Like in order to kill prisoners,
in order to kill defensive shipwreck survivors rarely or probably
falls in the rare category of orders so manifestly unlawful
that soldiers have a duty to disobey it, which reminds
me I was reading in the National Review. I think
(24:19):
it is somebody Jeff Blair was speculating that. You remember
when those Democrats came out with that dopey video a
week and a half ago about you do not have
to follow illegal orders, and everybody's like, what are they
talking about? Nobody named anything, whether they had heard rumors.
It seems like a heck of a coincidence.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
It was either an unbelievably lucky coincidence or they had
gotten word. Wow, what a guy that high up the
chain in the military. I mean, it's uh, there's like
a money python bit about this, But I mean, so
(25:01):
Pete eggs that says kill them all, and you take
that to mean okay, I'll just keep firing. I don't
care if the guy gets off the boat, swims to shore,
drives a card to his house, and is laying on
the couch watching television. I will still kill him, right,
surely would be extraordinary. As I said before, Uh huh,
which is why there's an investigation. Let's hope it didn't happen. Yeah,
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Speaker 1 (26:26):
It's good to be right. So I'm just looking at
the very latest is Trump says he believes Hegzeth when
Eggszeth says that he did not order the strike. So
now it comes down to whether there was a strike
or not. We need to figure that out. There's got
to be video. All about the facts got There's got
to be a video there, So that's the that's the
first stop. Is there a video of two guys cling
(26:47):
into a boat and then all of a sudden they
disappear and then once once that video, if it exists,
is shown then it's okay, Well who ordered that? Who
made that decision?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I don't remember the name of the bloke who was
in charge of that region. I think he was a
Navy guy, an admirable admiral. It's hard to say admiral
without saying admirable. It's always been a problem for me anyway,
because most of them are anyway. He announced that he
was resigning early, and there was speculation about whether it
(27:20):
was discontent with the whole blasting drug boats out of
the water thing, which is possible. I wonder if that
kill everybody connected. Order went out and that guy said, whoa, whoa, whoa, No,
not going there.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Well, I hope we find out. So I just saw
they on the TV before we take a break that
Denver won at the very end of the game against
Washington last night. And I watched some of the football
on Thanksgiving, like a lot of you probably did. It's
amazing how many NFL games come down to like ap play,
and you have like three or four games where you
(27:55):
make that play and you get to go to the
super Bowl, like the Kansas City Chiefs did last year,
or you have a couple of those plays not go
your way. Like Kamas City Chiefs this year, and yeah,
I don't even make the playoffs. I mean it's just
you wouldn't think it'd be that final line, whether or
not you win or lose. But you make the miraculous pass,
oh and they dropped it, you lose.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Right, there's so much parody in the league, which is
what they've been going for. You got the Mighty Rams
falling to the Panthers not too long ago, sad Panthers
of Carolina, making the NFC West super exciting again for
Niners fans in particular. But yeah, yeah, it's great, super exciting,
(28:36):
some good games.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Sure, a good thing to do when you're sitting there
and your stomach's trying to digest all these weird different
foods that don't normally eat in quantities that no human
beings should ever take in. It's so good, Oh it is.
And then like at least with my mom around, like
ten minutes after you've like were in super pain. Anybody
want another? Whatever? Sure, I'll try getting a little more
(29:04):
piwn ball.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And I tell you what, I made a move I
should have made many years ago, and Fellas, it's gonna
cost you a couple of bucks all right, save your pennies,
cancel the.
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Golf is whatever you have? Is this about your bidet? No? No,
although by god I love that thing.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
No.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
I got the outdoor TV. Buy the grill so when
I'm grilling.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I can watch footballs refreshment in hand. It was so great.
That's the big leap forward and happiness. So Dali Lama
is wrong.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
The way to become happy is to have a television
next year, grill. Oh, money can't buy happiness, but it
can buy you a big ass TV right next to
your grill, and that can give you happiness.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Oh man, we would like to hear what you think
about the whole Hexa thing. Also, we've got mail bag
on the way in more news of the day to
catch up on. I hope you didn't Game three and
a quarter pounds like I did. Stay tuned. So we
drove all the way to Kansas and road trip. So
road trip and then being there and everything like that. Man,
(30:13):
by the time we got back, we were tired of
any sort of restaurant food. Just I don't know what
it is about eating not at home. At some point
I just reach a limit. I don't know. Maybe some
of y'all can endlessly eat at restaurants, but I cannot
just something that something they put in it that I
just need, Like I want a peanut butter sandwich or
(30:34):
bowl of cereal or something that's not that. Yeah, the
first few are great, but you're right, there's a fatigue
that sets in. Absolutely true. Here's your freedom.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Loving quota today in honor of the Netflix hit series
Deaths by Lightning, about the assassination of James A.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Garfield that Judy and I just started last night. Is
it as good as people tell me? It's very well done. Cool,
We're at one episode in, so it's hard to say
for sure. I gotta check that out. Garfield dies in
the right. It's compelling. Spoiler alert. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
We've got a series of James A. Garfield quotes. I
have not had time to vet them, and this one
seems a tad perfect and modern. But Garfield said, the
truths will set you free, but first it will make
you miserable.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
That's interesting. Yeah, Yeah, a lot of truths there. Well,
I can't always be the case, sometimes it is. Yeah,
here's another one for you.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
A brave man is a man who dares to look
the devil in the face and tell him he is
the devil.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
These are James Garfield quotes. That's right, old Jimmy Garfield.
I don't have any Garfield knowledge whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Well, you know, I take you know Netflix series with
a grain of salt if there's any truth to it all.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
He was an extremely intelligent and honorable man who did
not want to be president.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
He was shocked when he got nominated. Very good first episode.
I recommend it Netflix if you have the money for it. Mailbag,
old mail Bag at Armstrong and Getty dot Com. Anna,
Luisa Wright, So, welcome back. Hope your vacations were great.
UH missed y'all, but I honestly admit it was nice
not to worry about keeping up with the world.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
In short, please break the bad news about the state
of the world slowly, maybe focus on interesting vacation stories
for a couple of days. I hear you, I hear you,
my darling. Let's see how about this. Uh, this is Dennis,
welcome back. I hope you had wonderful Thanksgiving vacations.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
We didn't well.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I missed live shows, particularly after the DC shooting. The
best of broadcasts were great and very entertaining, probably better
than this. Ben He mentions that both the DC and
Stockton shootings were in places that called themselves sanctuary cities.
The Stockton, California the murder of four people, including three children.
Still not exactly clear what was going on there, looks
(32:52):
gang related. Sanctuary city.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Does that anything to do with it? Though? Don't. Nope,
don't know. Let's see how about this?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Oh, j T and Livermore says, I recognize somebody actually
had to spend some of every weekday during their vacation
to post the best of podcast episodes. Actually, we would
try to get it ready in advance, but thank you
for the holiday present.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
He says. They're really really well crafted. Nice job. Mike Hanson,
executive producer. Oh, Mike works like crazy on that. Let's see.
Moving on. Yeah, so farly better than what you're listening to. Now,
that's the problem. Don't make him quite so good? Would
you stop? So far?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
The Joe highlight of my listening has been Joe's turn
as the anti critic critic who gleeferly preaches that critics
should be the first to go up against the wall
in the upcoming revolution. Hilarious and ironic, hllronic, ironeous. I
don't know my Jack highlight has been a self annoyed
claim of being grounded. Well, I personally know that within
a few months of said grounding, Jack was contemplating the
(33:55):
purchase of a giraffe. Let's screams to the world, ground
you are like owning endangered species from another continent.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
You keep being you Jack. Oh, that's funny, I remember that.
Oh gosh, I was briefly shopping for a giraffe several
years ago. Oh but then he throws in.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Over the years, there have been many segments that included
the claim that the subjects were the worst ever, and
the replays had there were no exception. But that said,
the segment covering the stench of some Brazilian butt lifts
gone wrong truly is the worst one ever. It should
definitely be pulled from the replayed Boldpool.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I don't want to hear that. No, no, it's.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Absolutely terrible, you know, speaking of being a credit of critics,
I succumb to the temptation during the vocation to crack
open the New York Post briefly. I don't know what
got into me, and one of the lead stories was
a perfectly infuriating or infuriatingly perfect example of what's so
(35:04):
ugly and corrosive and stupid about the Internet and social media.
It's seriously, I went from zero to I want to
hurt somebody in about forty five seconds.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
And are you gonna tell us about that later? Is
that what you're nuts?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yes, yes, I try. We'll try to work that in. Yes,
I'm sorry. We'll discuss that coming up in the in
the next hour.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Cyber Monday, everybody Joe to do his annual explanation of
where cyber Monday comes from, because I can't believe the
media doesn't tell us this. They act like it came
down from God, the idea of cyber Monday. Well, and
as you point out, it's a what do you call it?
A pseudob event, some contrived event, and then everybody acts
(35:48):
like it happened to them. Well, I guess we better
report on it as opposed to you created it prides
me nuts anyway, lots on the way, stay
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