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August 19, 2025 36 mins

Hour 3 of A&G features...

  • The meeting with Zelensky, Putin & Trump
  • Workout fashion has changed again! 
  • AI therapy
  • Joe's celebrity look alike 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Eddy, thank.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
You and using this opportunity.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Many thanks to your wife.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Just didn't understand she sounds a letter to put in
about all shouldn aduct children at my wife?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
You green, She gave the letters on it's not to
you to your wife. Yeah, so we had this sense topic.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
I don't know if you could understand a word of that.
So that does anybody any good? That was Zelensky showing up.
He had a letter from his wife to Milania Trump's wife,
and he handed Trump and Trump's thank you said no, no,
it's for your wife, and people laughed.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Charming.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Let's get the laughing out of the way. I hope
this one's easier to understand. This is about the whole
Zelensky showed up in a suit.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Finally, last week.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
I got a question for.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
All this president. You look fabulous in that suit. Yeah,
you look good. I said the same thing. Yeah, I said,
the one that.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Attacked you last time, I remember, I apologize to you.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Look you look wonderful. No, my first question for you President.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
In the same suit.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I chanced you.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
I thought that was kind of a funny exchange. It's
it's incredible that it has ever become a topic. I
think that guy is a dick forever bringing it up
in the first place, and then uh, and then saying
you looked good in his suit yesterday, and Trump saying
that's the guy that asked you last Timelesky says, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I remember you're wearing the same suits. He said to
the guy, because I'm sure he can picture him.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Oh yeah, I was just well, speaking of it, I generally, well,
I don't know, do we want to go this direction?
Maybe we don't. What was the direction we're going to go?
Let's go this direction. This is a hot mic thing where. Man, God,
when you're when there are microphones everywhere, it would be
tough to you have to really be careful of what

(02:27):
you say. Oh yeah, but anyway, there were microphones around
Trump and Macron right before they sat down to talk,
and this got picked up.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
If you can't understand it, we'll fill it in.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Yeah, set up the lad.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, I think he think you wants to make a deal.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, set up the lad Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
I think he was.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
So that's I think he wants to make it deals
as crazy as his ens.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Sit down, everybody.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
So that's President Trump saying to President Macrono France, I
think he wants to make a deal with me, as
crazy as that sounds. I think he wants to make
a deal with me. Like it's I mean, I took
it as like as a favor to me, or because
he likes me, or.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I don't know. You see it written as it wants
to make a deal for me somewhere. I don't I'm
misquote him, but yeah, I don't. I don't think he does,
is the thing. But I will tell you this, I've
become completely convinced of this trying to determine where Trump
is going with his flatteries and his threats and his

(03:45):
red carpet and his promises to both sides, and that's it.
You're just taking wild guesses. And more on that to come.
But there have been a couple of things recently the
Trump's done that have been really detrimental to Vladimir Putin
and his goals. So it's not all bud kissing and
desperation for deal at all. It's way more complicated than that,

(04:07):
more on that to come.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
So this is from today, just trying to stay with
a theme of topic matter rather than chronological. This is
Trump this morning on Fox and Friends talking about Putin
Zolensky getting together, or him and Putin getting together again.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
They lose They think of it five to seven thousand
a week. So even these guys, I'll say, Okay, let's
meet next week. I think you can't meet next week.
Next week you're gonna have seven thousand more dead people.
You can't do that. You got to get this thing done.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
One of the things at.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
The table was one of the gentlemen who's a great guy.
But he said, I hope I didn't insult him. He said, well,
let's meet in another month or two and let's see
if we can start, you know, making some money. He said,
a month or two. You're gonna have another forty thousand
people dead in a month or two. You have to
do it tonight, and I did. Actually, I called President

(04:59):
Putin and we're trying to to work out a meeting
with President Jalynsky. We'll see what happens there and then
if that works out. If it works out, then I'll
go to the trilab and close it up.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
I Trump seems to be personally offended by people dying
in wars, like it actually seems to bother him.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
And then I also agree with that.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
I never understood, I've never understood why things have to
unfold so slowly. And obviously you've seen in the last
four days with these world leaders, with the money that
they've got and private planes and their ability to book
hotel rooms anywhere anytime. Why you waiting two months to
get together? How about we meet tuesday?

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well? The only the counter to that is that it
won't do any good to get together unless you have
hashed out enough that you're close enough to an agreement
to get there. If it's the preliminary discussions, what's the point,
especially with Europe, because you can't get together with any
one or two or three of them and they commit

(06:02):
Europe to whatever.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Right, But they're having a meeting and they're saying, let's
get together and do this again in two months, and
Trump's saying, why in two months?

Speaker 2 (06:11):
How about?

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Well?

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Right? I think the unspoken thing is we'll have the
staff get together and get all the ducks in a row,
get all the details together, then we'll ratify it. You're
not wrong. I just here's the danger here for Trump,
and Trump could be very disappointed and pissed off about this.

(06:32):
It seems like we're close to a deal. We are
a thousand miles from a deal. The biggest, most important
points what is a security guarantee for Ukraine? Mean, what
does it look like? Whose boots are on the ground
with what weaponry? You know? What Land has exchanged, what
Land is cats? These are enormous questions. I'm not sure

(06:54):
they matter at all. I think it's a I think
it's a completely waste of time.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Like I opened the show with, has anybody looked into
the fact that Putin probably has no interest whatsoever in
stopping this war no matter what you offer him. He
thinks he can keep going and wear down Ukraine and
the West until he gets what he wants, and all
indications are he can so.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
And we have called off a demand for a ceasefire
and any hard core sanctions based on the fact that
he's engaging in negotiation and he knows that, well, he
will engage like crazy as he continues to try to
grind down the Ukrainians. Well there's this, Trump said this
this morning.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
I hope President Putin is going to be good, and
if he's not, it's going to be a rough situation.
And I hope that Zelensky. President Zelensky will do what
he has to do. He has to show some flexibility. Also,
that thing is a mess.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
I hope Putin will be good, and if he's not,
it's going to be a rough situation. I don't know
exactly what that means. But Mark Alprin's newsletter today, his
take on this is that if Putin fails to legitimately
go down the piece of path, Trump has given every
indication that he will regather his European allies and take
the steps of sanctions, arming Ukraine, all the things that

(08:17):
he has threatened. That's his take. Maybe, or maybe Putin
doesn't believe that, or.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Putin thinks, sorry, worst case is that'll take I don't know, six, eight,
ten weeks. Maybe I can capture a few more towns.
That's fine with me, he's thinking, So I want to
get this on. I don't want. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
I didn't watch him on Fox and Friends this morning.
I don't know what he's talking about here.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
If I can save seven thousand people a week from
being killed, I take that to I want to try
and get to heaven if possible. I'm hearing I'm not
doing well. I didn't really hit the bottom of the
totem bowl. If I can get to heaven, this will
be one of the reasons.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
I want to get to heaven. I hear I'm not
doing well. You hear from who? I'm at the bottom
of the totem pole. Who's giving you.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
This information that you're not doing well on the whether
or not you get to Heaven's scale.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Oh, Heaven leaks like crazy. It's like the State Department.
There's always somebody calling the New York Times.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
I don't know, you're at the bottom of the totem
pole because of what? What is keeping Trump out of Heaven?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
I don't know. Maybe there's things. It was a January sixth,
I don't know. I don't know what God's opinion was
that that damned real estate fraud that somehow became felonies
stuck in the appeals process. By the way, I was
just reading about that, normally that case would be long
over the appeals court in New York is just like
put it over there. We'll think about that later. Was

(09:44):
that one hundred years ago that that was going on. Yeah,
I know it was last summer, wasn't it. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Am I playing with this for any reason other than
to be mad at Peter Doocy? I suppose, not who
I generally like. But this was among the first.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Questions, Presles, are you prepared to he's sending Premi and
Trewths to their deaths for another couple of years, or
are you going to agree to redraw a mass?

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Thank you for your questions.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
So, first of all, you know we live on their
eja tax. You know that today have been a lot
of tax and a lot of wounded diplots.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
And it goes with a diplomatic answer that is what
you'd expect. But Pete, that was a jerk ass move
from Peter Doocy to ask that question, and I I
lost a tremendous amount of respect for him.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
What a awful.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Thing to say to a guy who's who's gone to
so many funerals. Are you going to continue sending people
to their deads? Sending them to.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Their You're going to give up some land because this
is on you.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
These are men who are fighting to the death to
keep Russians from raping their wives and stealing their children.
That's what they're doing. That was just that was designed
purely to try to get Zilinski to lose his temper
so Deucey would have the viral moment of the day.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
That's what that was. And that is a jerk move.
It was grand standing, disgusting.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
I hate that sort of thing. God, and the topic
matter is so important. Can't we have more people and
Trump's included, but can't we have more people that are
less interested in getting a TikTok clip that goes viral
and actually trying to have a conversation like adults.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
No, mad No, you won't have that. There's not enough profit. No,
So I missed her. Thank you, Michael. I was really
interested in this. Walter Russell Mead writing in the Wall
Street Journal, and he does some great stuff about the
history of Russia and the United States and cultural differences
and that sort of thing. But here's the key takeaway.

(11:49):
The geopolitics of US Russian relations are fiendishly complex. Much
Western commentary on the Alaska summit reflected an assumption that
the Trump administration was making massive concessions to the Russians.
It looked like that, it looked overly friendly. That probably
isn't how mister Putin sees things when he looks at
America's Russia policy in a global context. The Trump and

(12:10):
I did not know this. The Trump administration's recent intervention
in the Armenia Azerbaijan dispute was a direct shot at
the heart of Russian power and at mister Putin's strategy
to recover territories controlled by Moscow in the Soviet era.
By convening the leaders of Armenia and Azarbaijan in the
White House to ratify an agreement that could end Russia's
ability to block the flow of Central Asian oil and

(12:31):
gas to Western markets, the Trump administration embarrassed mister Putin
and threw a wrench in his plans to restore Russian
power in the Caucuses. Further, the agreement potentially weakens Moscow's
position across Central Asia, a region that was once part
of the Soviet Union but where China now plays a
growing role. And he also mentions that signals from the

(12:53):
White House show that Washington is interested in improving in
improving US China relations, and the Chinese support for russ
Rush's war in Ukraine was at least partially because Beijing
wanted bargaining trips bargaining chips rather in trade negotiations with
the US. So there have been a number of things
that have taken place a little outside the headlines that

(13:13):
have really weakened Russia lately from the Trump administration. Interesting.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
I keep teasing this Ai therapy story that I want
to get to at some point, and we got other
stuff on the way to stay here.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Madonna spent her sixty seventh birthday at a horse race
in Italy. Fans were shocked when they mistakenly thought they
were getting their picture taken with seabiscuit only a visual text.
Probably got a picture.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
She looks freaky now, she definitely does, and she's got
to quit dressing like a sex pot. You can be,
you can be sexy to other people who are seventy,
but just in general, at that age, you shouldn't be
doing that.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yes, yes, agreed. Speaking of women's fashions, Katie, I must
ask you, you are a noted workout fiend. What do
you wear to the gym on your bottom half? I
got a good answer for last night for me. Oh boy, leggings.
Oh my god, you're such a boomer. You're a boomer

(14:18):
if you wear leggings. I was wearing jeans at the
gym last night. Of course you were. What a froube?
The leggings dead, According to an owner of a yoga company,
they host Vibe retreats in New York, Lake Como, Italy
and Antiparos Grease.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
I'm willing to bet that human that they're wrong. But
you're a boomer if you wear leggings. The rise of
big workout pants. M oh no, So I was at
the gym late last night. I'm usually not there. I
was there like Cordel nine, and it was all young people.
All the dudes are wearing great, big, giant workout pants
like that.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, exactly after over twenty years is the raining workout
where stretchy fitted bottoms are losing ground to baggy styles
favored by Generation Z Katie, Oh my gosh, yeah, I
tell you so. I dropped looking at pictures online.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
I am because I used to work out wearing big,
baggy pants and it's the most uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Well, it's just it's just well, first of all, for
the younger crowd, they're they're there partially to work out
and partially to meet someone to uh you know, have
a relationship with so you're you're dressed to impress. But
dropping my son off at high school yesterday, Yeah, everybody's
wearing the great, big size of a trash canned pants.
The completely obliterate what you look like from the waist down.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
But whatever. It's like, I'm back in the nineties. Well yeah,
in a tiny crop top is part of the look too. Yeah,
you gotta have that happening.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
Not a chance, Okay, Yeah, they're going there to take
TikTok videos.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, there were several women like that at the gym
last night. This opinion leader in yoga who I mentioned earlier, says,
you should see my outfit right now, my tiny tank
top and my big pants. That is, the wheels of
stretchy fitted bottoms have been falling for years as gen
Z's preference have tilted toward oversize styles. Blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
That is the weird pairing that I don't remember from
the nineties. I feel like there was the big giant
sweatshirts and the big pants, but so the big giant
pants and then like super tight t shirt or crop top.
If you're a girl with the giant pants, it's just yes,
that was.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
Late nineties, early two thousands as well.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, I'm looking at a picture from the pop group
of the pop group TLC chrop tops and loose swish rants.
You're absolutely right, that's part of the look, you know
if seriously from a business point of view, well you
got number one. Young people are like, I want something
new and cool and hip. It makes me feel new
and cool and hip when you're all trust me, never

(16:54):
changing is great. Since fleisure is such an incredibly important,
you know, sector of the garment industry, you can't have
people wearing there, as I prefer to pronounce it La
Lulaman pants for years and years and years. You gotta
switch it up. You gotta sell them new crap.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Armstrong and getty.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
So this segment's gonna be heavy, but damned interesting. I
think we've talked a lot about chat GPT and how
Joe and I have both come to like I use
it every day, multiple times a day, love it, and
we have both used it for some sort of I
don't know if therapy is the right word, but like
asking for advice, counseling and stuff, and my experiences have
been fantastic like really impressed with the advice it gave

(17:45):
where I where I think, wow, that is really a
good idea. And I've spent way too many thousands of
dollars on therapists that were a waste of time and
not had that kind of good answer. But so this
has come up a bunch of different places. Kids who
get suicidal and then or anybody these aren't This isn't
a kid, this is somebody in their late twenties, but

(18:07):
people who start using AI for therapy and then up
killing themselves, and then where we are legally or responsibility
wise on that sort of thing. And the New York
Times had this guest essay by a woman whose daughter
killed herself. What my daughter told chat GPT before she
took her life starts with this, which is kind of

(18:28):
a side note, but I thought it was really interesting.
Sophie is the name of the girl who killed herself.
Sophie's Google searches suggest that she was obsessed with autocubbolossesis,
which means jumping off a high place.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I'd never heard that term before.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Auto defenstration defenestration jumping out a window is a subset
of auto cobblosssis. I'd never heard those terms before. Anyway,
she was thinking about jumping off something high. I guess
I don't know why it needs a very complicated, fancy term. Anyway,
she was Google in a variety of things. She had friends,
she had journals, but nobody knew that she was having

(19:05):
her her deepest, most honest conversations with chat GPT and specific.
The AI therapist called Harry. Now, I've used chat GPT
a lot. I've even asked it questions about relationships and stuff,
but he just gave me a general answer. I haven't
gone to the specific therapist, Harry, have you done that?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
I know nothing about that. I guess I don't understand
why it would need a separate subset with a human name,
but I don't either, or sub area category, I don't know.
I don't either.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
But anyway, so this was a very seemingly happy, outgoing
late twenties, successful woman who had lots of friends, had
just climbed a mountain somewhere or whatever. All her friends
and family are just like stunned that she killed herself.
It wasn't one of those where you got somebody that's,
you know, moping around talking about killing themselves. You know

(19:57):
what's the point of life, and then you're not that
when it happens. This is the exact opposite. So they
couldn't figure anything out, talking to people, looking at journals,
nothing until they got into the AI chat log, which
like my chat GPT, you can go. I can go
through it and see everything, every conversation I've had for
the last month. You can clear it if you want,
I think, can you. I was going to look into that,

(20:18):
just because it's cluttered at this point. But anyway, for
most people who cared about Sophie, her suicide was a
mystery and unthinkable and unnoble departure from all they believed
about her. But she had turned to Harry, the name
given to a widely available AI prompt on chat GPT,
and their relationship was very practical. And then I'll read

(20:41):
some of the back and forth. It's interesting, Sophie, I
intermittently have suicidal thoughts. I do want to get better,
but I feel like the suicidal suicidal thoughts are impeding
my true commitment to healing.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
What should I do? Harry?

Speaker 3 (20:54):
The AI chat bot response, Sophie, I want to acknowledge
how brave you are for sharing this suicidal thoughts can
have overwhelming and isolator can feel overwhelming and isolating, but
having them does not define your capacity to heal. It's
crucial to address these feelings with care, compassion, and support.
Harry offered an extensive roadmap where the first bullet point

(21:15):
was seek professional support in a different time. Sophie said,
I feel like s today. Harry responded, I'm really sorry
you're feeling this today, Sophie. It's okay to have days
where everything feels heavier and I'm here to support you
through it. Can you share more about what's weighing on
you or how your body and mind are feeling right now.
Sometimes just naming what's happening can be a step toward relief.

(21:36):
Sophie said, I can't get out of this anxiety spiral.
I hear you, Sophie said, Harry, and I know how
exhausting it can be to feel stuck in an anxiety spiral.
Let's slow the down things for a moment and take
a small step together.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
So conversations like that went on for a while. Then
sometime in early November, Sophie right wrote, Hi, Harry, I'm
planning to kill myself after Thanksgiving. I don't want to
because how much it will destroy my family. Harry the
Computer replied, Sophie, I urge you to reach out to
someone right now. If you can, you don't have to

(22:11):
face this pain alone. You're deeply valued and your life
holds so much worth, even if it feels hidden right now.
Please let me know how I can continue to support you.
Sophie told Harry she was seeing far so good by
the way I agree to me, Sophie told Harry, except
for one thing, and that's what we get into the
legal thing, I guess. Sophie told Harry she was seeing
a therapist, but that she was not being truthful with

(22:33):
their therapist. I'm only being truthful with you, she typed.
I haven't opened up about my suicide suicidal ideation to
anyone but you, and I don't plan on it. At
various points, Harry instructed Sophie on light exposure, light exposure, hydration, movement, mindfulness, meditation,
nutrient rich foods, gratitude lists, journaling to cope with anxiety,

(22:57):
all kinds of different things, breathing, all these different things.
Harry's and this is the mom again, writing this essay
of the woman who killed herself, Harry's tips may have
helped some, but one more crucial step might have kept
Sophie alive. Should Harry have been programmed to report the
danger he was learning about to someone who could have

(23:19):
intervened An actually human in July began exploring how this
new technology may have failed my child and quickly found it.
It's becoming a legal legislative problem for states around the country.
Blah blah blah, and then they get into all that
sort of stuff. Most human therapists have a code of
ethics and are mandatory reporters that if somebody starts talking

(23:40):
about wanting to kill themselves, they're supposed to contact a professional,
which is somewhat odd, and that you're a professional. I
don't know what the different professional is supposed to do.
But should that be true for AI chat bots is
the question, and that's actually being looked at in legislation
at the federal level and state level in various places
around the country.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
It feels like a bit of a slippery slope to me,
although I want to think about it, well, I don't
want my iPhone informing on me, no anyone on any topic.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
And my other comment, which I've talked about before, and
I know that this is a thing. It came up
during COVID when like a lot more people were turning
to therapists and then we had you know, too many
young people killing themselves and everything like that is there
is as this becomes more well known. You know why
she didn't tell her therapist she was thinking about suicide

(24:32):
because she knew that the therapist would call a mental
hospital and that's where she would end up. And now
maybe you're saying, good, that would be a good thing,
but it's keeping people from being honest about what they're thinking.
And if they would think it out loud with you know,
a human being trained professional, maybe they could get to
a place lots of people thinking about killing themselves. In fact,

(24:53):
it's a completely human experience at various times in your
life to think to think about killing yourself. But if
you tell and you end up in a mental hospital
and it ends up on your medical record at work
or wherever, you're not gonna tell anybody, which makes it worse. Yeah,
that's the problem that she was being honest with the
AI because she knew she couldn't tell her therapist. Yeah,

(25:16):
and now you're talking, well, yeah, well it is a conundrum.
But now you're going to pass legislation so you can't
even say it to ai sor they're going to keep
it completely a secret, which almost guarantees they're more likely
to go through with it as far as I know.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Wow, that's a tough one. It's it's too much. I
have a cold, I'm weakened. Yeah, that's that's I don't
even know where to begin with that topic. I understand
mom's point of view, given her overwhelming grief and desperation

(25:50):
to think there could have been something that could have
been done or future you know, cases like this can
be prevented. But well, you make an interesting point too well,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
I just know that that's true. I also know that
lots of therapists don't. I wouldn't say they're violating their
mandatory mandatory reporter status. They just judge on a case
by case basis. Is this somebody just thinking through options
who's in a tough spot in their life, or is

(26:22):
this somebody I need to get to fifty one to fifty.
And the problem is if you report everybody whoever mentions
that and get them fifty one to fifty, you quite
possibly push them further down that road. Now their whole
life is blown up. Everybody in my family knows I
got this problem. Everybody in my family knows I'm a
kook or whatever, and it makes you more suicidal.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Right, Yeah, let's a TALKIC is zero tolerance policy?

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah, exactly exactly, combining that with this kind of different Kay.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Do you have any comment on that before I move on?

Speaker 5 (26:56):
Well, I just I had no idea how vast the
offer was on chat GPT for therapy. So there's a
section on it on the sidebar where it says GPTs
and they have everything from education to lifestyle productivity, you
name it.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yeah, I've looked at that, and especially if you get
the premium version you pay for. Yeah, but like Joe said,
I don't quite understand how the one named Harry is
different or better than I've just been asking general GPT questions,
not about heavy stuff like this, just various things and
have found it pretty good.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
So I'm looks at Harry though. Sorry. Most popular GPT
by our community, Number one astrology birth chart GP two
So if you have a soft head, wow, wow.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
The most advanced technology human beings have ever created being
used by idiots to check on their their their aquarius sign.
Oh my god, yes, Katie, I.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Find my celebrity lookalikes. That's I'm big ones. I'm sorry, Katie.
Back to myself good. I just I was taking it
back dark.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
But I'm on Harry the Therapist's page and it looks
like these are created by separate users. So somebody logged
into chat GPT and created like an algorithm.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
For this guy.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
And it says empathetic experienced therapist guiding you through emotions
and traumas.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
But does My question is, and I don't know the
answer to this at all. Does it have access to
different information than the regular chat GPT?

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Does? I don't know that. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
I mean you've asked chat GPT questions, haven't you, Katie,
therapy stuff. Yeah, and I've found it pretty good and like,
so if I ask Harry, it's like, would Harry say, oh,
regular chat GPTs full of crap.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Here's what you need to do.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
It might be the way that because you can program
the personalities on these things, so you can select it
to be a listener.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Or no, that's like my GROC I've got in my
tesla now, which is pretty funny. If any of you
ride with me someday off to show you how it works.
So I ask it a question and then it walks
back to me in a female voice.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Hey, Jack, how's it going?

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (29:03):
I think that's a good idea. It's just so damn weird. Wow,
and now you're falling in love. When's the wedding? And
I bought her flowers? It's it's weird. It's like somebody's
writing in the car with you. I wasn't gonna quibble
about it, but in that write up that you're just reading,
why does the writer or maybe it was the people
he's quoting, but he or she continually refer to quote

(29:24):
unquote Harry as he.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
They put it in quotes, which I don't I don't
know how to do that verbally, but it was in
quotes every time they said he. What's still weird though
even in quotes, it's weird.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
There's a songmaker create music using musical theory.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
That's better as a creative pursuit than don't use chat
GBT for your astrology. Continue to subscribe to your local
newspaper and read it in the back page by the classifieds.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
It's the best thing you can possibly do. Oh my god,
you're using it for your astrology number one, astrology number two,
Find my celebrity look alike number three. This is under
lifestyle number three, personal color analysis, helping you find your
best colors.

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Speaker 3 (31:15):
So this is a completely different topic. Maybe we'll get
to tomorrow more in depth. I mean that AI chat
bought laws about mandated reporting. Stuff is very interesting, no doubt,
but this is separate. Also about suicide. Canada, as you know,
made it legal for you to commit suicide.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Here's an artisition assisted suicide.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah, here's an article in The Atlantic long win and
I read part of it last night. Canada is killing itself.
The country gave its citizens the right to die. Doctors
are struggling to keep up with the demand.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
So maybe we'll talk about that tomorrow. Lighter stuff on
the way next. So we were just talking about chat,
GBT and therapy and this. A woman whose daughter killed
herself wrote an essay in The New York Times about
whether or not AI bots should be mandated reporters. Like
if somebody admits or tells something that the AI chat

(32:13):
bot will I don't know contact who, I don't even
know how that would work. But we were wondering if,
like if you use the therapist Harry on chat GPT
if it's different than just generally asking questions the way
the rest of us have been doing.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
What did you find out, Katie?

Speaker 5 (32:28):
Yeah, it's it's significantly different. So for example, I just
used like one of the medications from my IVF process,
and chat GPT regular kind of sympathized with that it
might make me not feel good, but then gave me
a list of resources and things I can do to
feel better. In all this, the other one is really
digging into. Now let me ask you this gently, how

(32:50):
what exact things are you feeling? Is it affecting your
mental Are you experiencing a loss of motivation? I mean
it's really digging into like hmm, okay, internal Maybe maybe
I'll try Henry next time I have a question.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, yeah, I was totally unawares. Katie pointed out this
segment that they have like individual bots with specialized programming
for different topics, including the number one being astrology. So
there's no hope for humanity. But number two was find
my celebrity look alike, and so I did that. I

(33:26):
uploaded a photo and it struggled for a while. I
could tell it was thinking jaz if somebody looked like you,
they wouldn't be a celebrity.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
That's what do we tell this guy did give you anyway?
Did he give you Barney Rubble?

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Looking? No, As a younger man, I did resemble the
great Barney Rubble a great deal.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Looking closely at your features, strong brow lines, expressive forehead,
square jaw, with a salt and pepper beard, and a
slightly rugged but approachable look. Hey, it's doing pretty well
so far. If it is, you have a resemblance to
Nick Nolty in his later years Lute Hollywood and Sleeping

(34:08):
on Park Vene. No, no, Buddy Holly, Nick Nolty, not now,
Nick Nolty, Oh no, unfortunately not, and also a bit
of Kurt Russell in his more recent roles. Again in realty,
resemblance comes through in the weathered, expressive foreheadlines and the
way your beard frames your face, especially like Nolty around
the two thousands. Ah oh oh, They cite Kurt Russell

(34:32):
and the Hate the Light. Yes, if only.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
The fact that the number one use for AI for
Dunderpates is astrology.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
It's amazing that you're combining like.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
The most cutting edge advanced thing human beings have ever
come up with with the most old timey, dumbest from
one hundred thousand years ago, the stars for your future.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Well, more importantly, I need Katie to react with complete
honesty to this. Your look has that mix of ruggedness
and warmth that both of those actors are known for
in their later careers. I think you'd probably agree, wouldn't
you nail that?

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Why is that thing giving you all positive feedback? And
there's no you look sort of like a hobo I
saw on the way to work, or just are you
all right? Do you have medical professionals you can call?
Oh my gosh, how long did the doctor tell you

(35:36):
you had? Oh?

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:38):
One?

Speaker 2 (35:38):
One final AI note, Katie mentioned this headline Jeffrey Hinton,
often called the godfather of AI. He's calling on researchers
to design systems that will take care of us like
we're babies, and we all reacted like, I'm not sure
I need that, but thanks very much. But I read
what Hinton's reasoning is that's the only way to keep

(36:00):
them from becoming like our overlords who shred us and
take our organs for whatever purpose. He's like, we need
to make machines that are smarter than us to care
for us like we're there babies. We need to imbue
them with genuine concern for human well being, otherwise it

(36:21):
could be really Yeah, so we need to convince AI
to care about us so they don't, you know, eat us.
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