January 5, 2026 • 14 mins
On the Monday January 5, 2026 edition of The Armstrong & Getty One More Thing Podcast....
- Everyone is back-to-work, but are they happy about it?....
- Ai Chatbots are becoming more and more common--but do they work?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And it might help you with the whole homicidal rage problem.
It's one more thing. I'm one more thing.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Before we get to whatever that is. This is the
first One More Thing podcast of the year twenty and
twenty sixth as we came back to work after a
couple of weeks off, and I think a lot of
the world coming back to work, going back to school,
et cetera. On January fifth, I texted a friend of
mine this morning, how's it going? And they said, exchanging
(00:29):
my labor for money? How about you? And I thought, yeah,
pretty accurate, pretty much pretty much what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, yeah, that's why that whole.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Hilariously goofy.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
What did the Reddit thread, the anti works thread or what?
It's so mystifying. It's like somebody being I don't know,
anti breathing or anti eating. I reject the oppression of
how having to take in calories that are metabolized by
the cells of my body and turned into energy. What
(01:05):
are you talking about right? Anyway, I don't actually have
homicidal rage. I'm as mellow as I've ever been in
my life.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
But have you ever had homicidal rage or an.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Actual homicidal rage?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I don't think I haven't. I know that I haven't.
I know that I've never felt like boy if I
could get away with it. I don't think I ever have.
Not that I remember.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I think you'd remember no, no, no, yeah, I think
I probably would remember Katie homicidal age.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
M no, maybe I played the fifth I don't know you.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I wonder if women are more likely to, uh, for
a variety of maybe necessary biological reasons, be quicker to
homicidal rage. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
No, I can't confirm, but I'm sure I've been pretty
damn close. I mean, the stats would not bear that out.
Or maybe they're just not very good at it. What
doesn't mean they need to follow through. It doesn't mean
you need to follow through on it. A good point,
Yeah right, anyway, uh so anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Maybe not very good? Yeah, good one.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Actually, transgender women formerly known as dudes in dresses are
much better at murdering people than like real women are.
So men are better at like everything anyway. Uh So,
Jack and I have both on and off the air
through the last several months, talked about the idea of
(02:34):
the various AI platforms as as deliverers of like counseling
or perspective.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I'm fine with calling it therapy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, using
AI chat about as therapist.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And I mentioned people, and routinely when I bring that
up to people, they're like, what you gotta be kidding.
And I feel like I can speak with some authority
because I guarantee you I've spent six figures on therapy
for me, my kids, my family over the years, and
most of it crap. And I get answers out of
these chatbots where I think, wow, that is really insightful regularly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I've got to admit I was skeptical or just unsure
how that could be until I started doing it myself.
So over the break I typed this into chat GPT.
I jack agree with you that Claude is an excellent,
excellent giver of advice and therapy. And it is remarkably
(03:36):
straightforward and both kind but not like confirming your bull crap.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
No, it does not, because that's funny. I've got a
relative I won't say who, because I know how so
many people are. I've got a relative who actually is
in the world of therapy and said, now, the problem
with the chatbots is they're just going to tell you
what you want to hear all the time. And I said,
that is the exactpposite of my experience. First of all,
the paid therapists tell you that's the other person that's
(04:04):
wrong all the time, because I want you to keep
coming back. And Claude specifically has told me like whoa, whoa, whoa, dude,
you are way off basic.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah. Yeah, so so I was. I had free time
over the break, and I have since I was fourteen
years old often filled my free time with music stuff,
whether writing recording, playing in a band or whatever, writing lyrics,
and I get.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Time for self pleasurement as a fourteen year old.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Oh I did? I worked it in? Uh anyway, Well,
you know where there's a will, there's a way, and
there's a will anyway we I'll bendel.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Myself in for around bedtime.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Last a couple of last couple of years at least,
i've had this feeling of what's the point, why bother?
But I've just and having that feeling made me unhappy.
But I've been completely unmotivated. So I thought, all right,
this is silly, So I typed into chat GPT. In
this case, I'm having trouble getting motivated to write and
(05:10):
record music? What are the benefits, whether psychological or neurological,
to doing that? And I had a pretty strong feeling
that the neurological stuff would be compelling. I was a
thing shocked at how good the psychological stuff was.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So you were hoping you'd find out that, like trying
to make music would be good enough for your brain
that it would motivate you to do it. Stay off
dementia or whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Right exactly, just keep my brain functioning as well as
you know it can. And again I saw that coming,
but not the psychological stuff. So here, I'm going to
read you some of this and we'll keep going until
you get bored with it. That lack of motivation is
very common among musicians, especially people who care about quality. Well,
if you've ever listened to me, you know I don't.
But there are real, well studied benefits to writing and
(05:57):
recording music that go beyond it feels it's nice, and
understanding them sometimes helps unblock the inertia. Below are the
main psychological and neurological benefits, framed in a practical way
rather than abstract theory. So let's start with psychological benefits.
Number one emotional regulation and processing. Writing music activates the
same mechanisms as expressive writing, but often more powerfully. It
(06:20):
gives your brain a structured outlet for emotions that don't
resolve well through conversation. Melody and harmony. Let you process
ambiguous or mixed emotions through things language alone struggles with
this often reduces background anxiety and rumination, even when the
song itself isn't quote unquote happy. Why this matters? Unexpressed
(06:41):
emotion consumes cognitive resources.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Music externalizes it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
That's it out you.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
That is pretty interesting. So a lot of people who
do music, it isn't it might be completely necessary to
them not going nuts, yes exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
And not home satle rage in my case. But and
without getting too autobiographical, I what were some of those words?
Ambiguous or mixed emotions, middle aged, empty, nest, successful, career,
other interests. I am a whirling ball of mixed emotions
(07:22):
and ambiguity. Trust me, you know what am I doing?
Why am I doing this? How am I spending my time?
How long am I gonna live? Blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah. Anyway, uh and then two and this
one hit me identity reinforcement. For musicians, creating music reinforces
who you are and not just what you do when
you're When you stop creating, your brain often experience is
(07:44):
a low grade identity friction. I'm not living aligned with myself.
Creating even privately restores internal coherence and self trust. This
is especially important later in life or during periods of transition,
when identity can feel diffuse. Yeah, go back to that phrase,
low level identity friction. Uh, low grade identity friction. I'm
(08:06):
not living aligned with who I am.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That's really interesting. Yeah, that could factor into all kinds
of different things. You start, you stop doing the things
that are you right, and you have that low grade
identity friction, like I'm not being me anymore that that
you know, you'll I don't want to do the whole
what it's going to be like to be a parent
thing with Katie, but I know that happened with me
(08:28):
being a parent, Because you don't have time for the
stuff that are you at all. At some point it
kind of really gets to you.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
And then when the kids fly the nest. Trust me
when I say you're like, oh wow, everything I've been
about for decades now is not gone. But it's changed
in a fundamental way. So uh wait a minute, now,
I'm sure I remember, you know what I used to
do and why it gave me meaning? Anyway, Oh I was,
(08:55):
I gonna say, it doesn't matter. Flow and intrin z
reward music creation is one of the strongest triggers of
flow state whatever that is. They don't really define it,
define it, but I'm sure I could look it up.
Flow reduces cortisol, which is a stress hormone, which I
have been feeling a great deal lately, increases dopamine during
(09:17):
the process, not just at the end, and improves mood
for hours afterward. Important recording increases the likelihood of flow
because it adds focus and commitment and mastery and agency.
Finishing even a rough track provides a sense of control.
I can still make things evidence of competence, which is,
you know now, protection against learned helplessness. This is a
(09:42):
subtle but powerful This is subtle but powerful, especially if
other parts of life feel constrained or repetitive, and then
they get into the neurological stuff, which is just freaking undeniable.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, I'm listening to this thinking about my son who
has gotten into music and has a lot of emotional
stuff I've talked about a lot over the yere. Yeah,
that be reasons for me to encourage him to continue
to do the music thing.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, I'm just going to throw a handful of terms
at you. For the neurological benefits, neuroplasticity maintenance, auditory context, mortar,
core tex pre funnel planning regions, emotional limbic systems, cognitive
flexibility supports executive function. You brought that up earlier. Is
associated with slower age related cognitive decline, dopamine serotonin balance,
(10:30):
memory integration. It helps your brain link emotional memory, narrative memory,
sensory memory, improves recall and emotional resilience. Your experiences feel
more organized internally. And then, and this is one of
the wild aspects. It says, do you want me to
give you a couple of like totally low risk ways
to ease back into it and so it's easier for
you and you don't feel that, oh, it's going to
(10:52):
be a lot of work thing. And it gave me
a bunch of like exercises to do.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, then I'm a big was on Claude that did that.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
This was chat GPT is terrific too.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah. Yeah. And at the beginning of that it mentioned
something about similar to writing, and I was thinking about
musicians and writers who do that. They must have just
accidentally or just from doing it a little bit, figured
out this makes me feel better, so I'm gonna keep
(11:23):
doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, just intuitively knew that.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, it's funny. I've long been an activist against the
trend that every hobby, every passion, every interest needs to
become a side hustle that you sell on Etsy. It's
funny because I've always I've always gotten that that no,
(11:49):
if it causes you. The world does not need more
birdhouses is the example example I always use. There are
plenty of cheap Chinese birdhouses if you want a bird house.
So why would any old guy in his garage build
a damn birdhouse. It's because it gives him joy and
because it's good for your brain. And as a guy
who used to like play shows and make records and
(12:11):
stuff like that, I think, what's the point. The point
is just do it. Shit, there doesn't need to be
a point. The point is the doing it.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Do things in short, well, if they make you happy, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Do them. Don't worry about the rest of them. You're
gonna be dead soon too, Dark I don't know you're
going to be dead soon. Oh we never, just not
soon soon, I hope. But you know, be careful at
your local Swedish ski resort. Yes, I think this is
uplifting or not. We didn't talk about on the air.
Senator Ben Sass, who we love, announcing over the last
couple of weeks he got diagnosed with the late stage
(12:49):
pancreatic cancer, the one that kills you within weeks, and
he's probably not gonna live past February. I would guess
based on the weasly things are, maybe not even through January.
But he mentioned in a a goodbye tweet alerting the
world that he's got this. God dang it, what a
drag forgot. He's got a degree from Harvard Yale and
(13:10):
that Saint John's College. I'm always talking about the Great
Notes College in Santa Fe. He's an unbelievable brain.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
But anyway, he announced that and he said, I found
out I'm going to die, but he said, here's something
we're all going to die. I already had a death sentence,
so do you. And I thought that's an interesting way
to look at it. Yeah, you do have a death
sentence all of us. It shouldn't come as a surprise
to you. At some point in life, I.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Was reading a different thinker saying the same thing over
the weekend, oddly enough.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And make that as a motivation to do things as
opposed to sit around thing. What's the point?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, not to get too metaphysical, but the idea that
a spirit and an intelligence like ben Sass goes away
just vanishes is it's too painful?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah? Yeah, Well Elon's going to figure that out. How
you can download them into a computer chip or something.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Download your soul? Hey, honey, where'd that the word? I
put that chip with my soul on it? I thought
it was in the top drawer. Oh no, we cleaned
out the top drawer. We threw it in the garbage.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Oh, remind me tomorrow to tell the story about throwing
my dirty clothes in the garbage at the hotel and
making the Hispanic maids dig through the garbage. I'll have
to tell that story in the air.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
WHOA wow, this is white privilege. This is disgusting to me.
Tomorrow on the art I'm going to write a song
about it. It's a protest song. Joe. Why don't you
going to make a YouTube channel or show about you
making Birdhouse?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
But you do it all wrong?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
We had a naked I thought that was part of
it too.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
What now it was just completely wrong all the time.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And join me again.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I would get to the end and every time it'd
be completely fed up. That would be funny.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
God, I suck at this anyway, See you next. Uh well,
I guess that's it.
And it might help you with the whole homicidal rage problem.
It's one more thing. I'm one more thing.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Before we get to whatever that is. This is the
first One More Thing podcast of the year twenty and
twenty sixth as we came back to work after a
couple of weeks off, and I think a lot of
the world coming back to work, going back to school,
et cetera. On January fifth, I texted a friend of
mine this morning, how's it going? And they said, exchanging
(00:29):
my labor for money? How about you? And I thought, yeah,
pretty accurate, pretty much pretty much what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, yeah, that's why that whole.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Hilariously goofy.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
What did the Reddit thread, the anti works thread or what?
It's so mystifying. It's like somebody being I don't know,
anti breathing or anti eating. I reject the oppression of
how having to take in calories that are metabolized by
the cells of my body and turned into energy. What
(01:05):
are you talking about right? Anyway, I don't actually have
homicidal rage. I'm as mellow as I've ever been in
my life.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
But have you ever had homicidal rage or an.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Actual homicidal rage?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I don't think I haven't. I know that I haven't.
I know that I've never felt like boy if I
could get away with it. I don't think I ever have.
Not that I remember.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I think you'd remember no, no, no, yeah, I think
I probably would remember Katie homicidal age.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
M no, maybe I played the fifth I don't know you.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I wonder if women are more likely to, uh, for
a variety of maybe necessary biological reasons, be quicker to
homicidal rage. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
No, I can't confirm, but I'm sure I've been pretty
damn close. I mean, the stats would not bear that out.
Or maybe they're just not very good at it. What
doesn't mean they need to follow through. It doesn't mean
you need to follow through on it. A good point,
Yeah right, anyway, uh so anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Maybe not very good? Yeah, good one.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Actually, transgender women formerly known as dudes in dresses are
much better at murdering people than like real women are.
So men are better at like everything anyway. Uh So,
Jack and I have both on and off the air
through the last several months, talked about the idea of
(02:34):
the various AI platforms as as deliverers of like counseling
or perspective.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I'm fine with calling it therapy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, using
AI chat about as therapist.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
And I mentioned people, and routinely when I bring that
up to people, they're like, what you gotta be kidding.
And I feel like I can speak with some authority
because I guarantee you I've spent six figures on therapy
for me, my kids, my family over the years, and
most of it crap. And I get answers out of
these chatbots where I think, wow, that is really insightful regularly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I've got to admit I was skeptical or just unsure
how that could be until I started doing it myself.
So over the break I typed this into chat GPT.
I jack agree with you that Claude is an excellent,
excellent giver of advice and therapy. And it is remarkably
(03:36):
straightforward and both kind but not like confirming your bull crap.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
No, it does not, because that's funny. I've got a
relative I won't say who, because I know how so
many people are. I've got a relative who actually is
in the world of therapy and said, now, the problem
with the chatbots is they're just going to tell you
what you want to hear all the time. And I said,
that is the exactpposite of my experience. First of all,
the paid therapists tell you that's the other person that's
(04:04):
wrong all the time, because I want you to keep
coming back. And Claude specifically has told me like whoa, whoa, whoa, dude,
you are way off basic.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah. Yeah, so so I was. I had free time
over the break, and I have since I was fourteen
years old often filled my free time with music stuff,
whether writing recording, playing in a band or whatever, writing lyrics,
and I get.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Time for self pleasurement as a fourteen year old.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Oh I did? I worked it in? Uh anyway, Well,
you know where there's a will, there's a way, and
there's a will anyway we I'll bendel.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Myself in for around bedtime.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Last a couple of last couple of years at least,
i've had this feeling of what's the point, why bother?
But I've just and having that feeling made me unhappy.
But I've been completely unmotivated. So I thought, all right,
this is silly, So I typed into chat GPT. In
this case, I'm having trouble getting motivated to write and
(05:10):
record music? What are the benefits, whether psychological or neurological,
to doing that? And I had a pretty strong feeling
that the neurological stuff would be compelling. I was a
thing shocked at how good the psychological stuff was.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So you were hoping you'd find out that, like trying
to make music would be good enough for your brain
that it would motivate you to do it. Stay off
dementia or whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Right exactly, just keep my brain functioning as well as
you know it can. And again I saw that coming,
but not the psychological stuff. So here, I'm going to
read you some of this and we'll keep going until
you get bored with it. That lack of motivation is
very common among musicians, especially people who care about quality. Well,
if you've ever listened to me, you know I don't.
But there are real, well studied benefits to writing and
(05:57):
recording music that go beyond it feels it's nice, and
understanding them sometimes helps unblock the inertia. Below are the
main psychological and neurological benefits, framed in a practical way
rather than abstract theory. So let's start with psychological benefits.
Number one emotional regulation and processing. Writing music activates the
same mechanisms as expressive writing, but often more powerfully. It
(06:20):
gives your brain a structured outlet for emotions that don't
resolve well through conversation. Melody and harmony. Let you process
ambiguous or mixed emotions through things language alone struggles with
this often reduces background anxiety and rumination, even when the
song itself isn't quote unquote happy. Why this matters? Unexpressed
(06:41):
emotion consumes cognitive resources.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Music externalizes it.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
That's it out you.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
That is pretty interesting. So a lot of people who
do music, it isn't it might be completely necessary to
them not going nuts, yes exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
And not home satle rage in my case. But and
without getting too autobiographical, I what were some of those words?
Ambiguous or mixed emotions, middle aged, empty, nest, successful, career,
other interests. I am a whirling ball of mixed emotions
(07:22):
and ambiguity. Trust me, you know what am I doing?
Why am I doing this? How am I spending my time?
How long am I gonna live? Blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah. Anyway, uh and then two and this
one hit me identity reinforcement. For musicians, creating music reinforces
who you are and not just what you do when
you're When you stop creating, your brain often experience is
(07:44):
a low grade identity friction. I'm not living aligned with myself.
Creating even privately restores internal coherence and self trust. This
is especially important later in life or during periods of transition,
when identity can feel diffuse. Yeah, go back to that phrase,
low level identity friction. Uh, low grade identity friction. I'm
(08:06):
not living aligned with who I am.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
That's really interesting. Yeah, that could factor into all kinds
of different things. You start, you stop doing the things
that are you right, and you have that low grade
identity friction, like I'm not being me anymore that that
you know, you'll I don't want to do the whole
what it's going to be like to be a parent
thing with Katie, but I know that happened with me
(08:28):
being a parent, Because you don't have time for the
stuff that are you at all. At some point it
kind of really gets to you.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
And then when the kids fly the nest. Trust me
when I say you're like, oh wow, everything I've been
about for decades now is not gone. But it's changed
in a fundamental way. So uh wait a minute, now,
I'm sure I remember, you know what I used to
do and why it gave me meaning? Anyway, Oh I was,
(08:55):
I gonna say, it doesn't matter. Flow and intrin z
reward music creation is one of the strongest triggers of
flow state whatever that is. They don't really define it,
define it, but I'm sure I could look it up.
Flow reduces cortisol, which is a stress hormone, which I
have been feeling a great deal lately, increases dopamine during
(09:17):
the process, not just at the end, and improves mood
for hours afterward. Important recording increases the likelihood of flow
because it adds focus and commitment and mastery and agency.
Finishing even a rough track provides a sense of control.
I can still make things evidence of competence, which is,
you know now, protection against learned helplessness. This is a
(09:42):
subtle but powerful This is subtle but powerful, especially if
other parts of life feel constrained or repetitive, and then
they get into the neurological stuff, which is just freaking undeniable.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, I'm listening to this thinking about my son who
has gotten into music and has a lot of emotional
stuff I've talked about a lot over the yere. Yeah,
that be reasons for me to encourage him to continue
to do the music thing.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, I'm just going to throw a handful of terms
at you. For the neurological benefits, neuroplasticity maintenance, auditory context, mortar,
core tex pre funnel planning regions, emotional limbic systems, cognitive
flexibility supports executive function. You brought that up earlier. Is
associated with slower age related cognitive decline, dopamine serotonin balance,
(10:30):
memory integration. It helps your brain link emotional memory, narrative memory,
sensory memory, improves recall and emotional resilience. Your experiences feel
more organized internally. And then, and this is one of
the wild aspects. It says, do you want me to
give you a couple of like totally low risk ways
to ease back into it and so it's easier for
you and you don't feel that, oh, it's going to
(10:52):
be a lot of work thing. And it gave me
a bunch of like exercises to do.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, then I'm a big was on Claude that did that.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
This was chat GPT is terrific too.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah. Yeah. And at the beginning of that it mentioned
something about similar to writing, and I was thinking about
musicians and writers who do that. They must have just
accidentally or just from doing it a little bit, figured
out this makes me feel better, so I'm gonna keep
(11:23):
doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, just intuitively knew that.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, it's funny. I've long been an activist against the
trend that every hobby, every passion, every interest needs to
become a side hustle that you sell on Etsy. It's
funny because I've always I've always gotten that that no,
(11:49):
if it causes you. The world does not need more
birdhouses is the example example I always use. There are
plenty of cheap Chinese birdhouses if you want a bird house.
So why would any old guy in his garage build
a damn birdhouse. It's because it gives him joy and
because it's good for your brain. And as a guy
who used to like play shows and make records and
(12:11):
stuff like that, I think, what's the point. The point
is just do it. Shit, there doesn't need to be
a point. The point is the doing it.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Do things in short, well, if they make you happy, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Do them. Don't worry about the rest of them. You're
gonna be dead soon too, Dark I don't know you're
going to be dead soon. Oh we never, just not
soon soon, I hope. But you know, be careful at
your local Swedish ski resort. Yes, I think this is
uplifting or not. We didn't talk about on the air.
Senator Ben Sass, who we love, announcing over the last
couple of weeks he got diagnosed with the late stage
(12:49):
pancreatic cancer, the one that kills you within weeks, and
he's probably not gonna live past February. I would guess
based on the weasly things are, maybe not even through January.
But he mentioned in a a goodbye tweet alerting the
world that he's got this. God dang it, what a
drag forgot. He's got a degree from Harvard Yale and
(13:10):
that Saint John's College. I'm always talking about the Great
Notes College in Santa Fe. He's an unbelievable brain.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
But anyway, he announced that and he said, I found
out I'm going to die, but he said, here's something
we're all going to die. I already had a death sentence,
so do you. And I thought that's an interesting way
to look at it. Yeah, you do have a death
sentence all of us. It shouldn't come as a surprise
to you. At some point in life, I.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Was reading a different thinker saying the same thing over
the weekend, oddly enough.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And make that as a motivation to do things as
opposed to sit around thing. What's the point?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, not to get too metaphysical, but the idea that
a spirit and an intelligence like ben Sass goes away
just vanishes is it's too painful?
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah? Yeah, Well Elon's going to figure that out. How
you can download them into a computer chip or something.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Download your soul? Hey, honey, where'd that the word? I
put that chip with my soul on it? I thought
it was in the top drawer. Oh no, we cleaned
out the top drawer. We threw it in the garbage.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Oh, remind me tomorrow to tell the story about throwing
my dirty clothes in the garbage at the hotel and
making the Hispanic maids dig through the garbage. I'll have
to tell that story in the air.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
WHOA wow, this is white privilege. This is disgusting to me.
Tomorrow on the art I'm going to write a song
about it. It's a protest song. Joe. Why don't you
going to make a YouTube channel or show about you
making Birdhouse?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
But you do it all wrong?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
We had a naked I thought that was part of
it too.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
What now it was just completely wrong all the time.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
And join me again.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I would get to the end and every time it'd
be completely fed up. That would be funny.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
God, I suck at this anyway, See you next. Uh well,
I guess that's it.
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