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December 3, 2024 36 mins

Hour 4 of A&G features...

  • The repeated "I won't pardon my son" lies
  • We need a culture of accountability
  • Jack cancels all streaming 
  • Final Thoughts! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Getty, and he Armstrong and Yetty.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
It was quite striking to see several Democratic governors and
lawmakers say today that while they understand a father's concern
for his son, the president tarnished his legacy with the
interests of his family ahead of the country. They're also
worried it could embolden Trump to abuse the same clemency
powers once he takes office.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
I've always thought it was dumb, but as I get older,
certainly the whole tarnished legacy thing whatever, that's not the problem.
The problem for these Democrats is they were out there
on the campaign trail talking about the difference between our
party and their party is we believe in the justice
system and we accept the results.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Oh we don't accept results.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
Okay, No, not when it harms us, not when its right.
Because it did harm the party, It harmed everything, harmed
the country, harmed the rule of law, certainly harmed the
Democratic Party in all their future arguments.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
But it helped the Biden family.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
And as we've made clear, and others will comment on
in this segment. It was it was far from just
commuting a sentence or or letting the boy off the
hook without fully feeling the weight of the consequences of
his actions. It is this bizarre Nixon on steroids, Like, yeah,
anything he did for eleven years, he can't get prosecuted

(01:37):
for anything, Like what, don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I mean it is way beyond the page.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Well, like John Stewart said on The Daily Show, the
bizarrely specific eleven years, what's that all about?

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Yeah, well I can. I've got a pretty damn good idea.
The year he signed on with Barisma and started traveling
the world on Air Force too, cutting deals and doing
crack uh with his dad and then siphoning ten percent
of the Big Guy to Uncle Jimmy.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
And everybody else. It's just it's it's so obvious. Please.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
As I said earlier, walks like a duck, quacks like
a duck, lays duck eggs that hatch into ducks. It's
DNA is beginning examined. It is duck DNA. And as
you said, it wrote a memoir. I am a duck.
My life is a duck.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Quack quack quack, what you're about to hear is that
it's a duck back. Thank you, bro.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
Is an excerpt from nine minutes of this which I
kept thinking, all right, I got to turn this off.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
But just who aired nine minutes of it? It's the internet?

Speaker 5 (02:42):
The internet did. The Internet has endless time YouTube. You
want to watch two minutes, fine, you want to watch
all of it? Fine, Next we got duck.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Videos for you.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Anyway, this is well, it's self evident what it is.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Michael, unleash it and we'll see how much we enjoy this. Yeah,
shaid a bye. By the jury decision, I will do
that and I will.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
Not part letting the world know that he will not
wipe away the decision of twelve of his son's peers.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Was asked directly, and he has said he wouldn't pardon
his son if he gets convicted.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Let's see what happens if he loves Yeah, but I mean,
but he said it.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
He's going to get pardoned by his dad. There's no
question about that. The President has ruled out pardoning his son.

Speaker 6 (03:23):
Major commitment from the President accepting the outcome of the
trial and also pledging not to pardon his son.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
But the challenge for him is really to continue to
live up to his values when it was really personal,
and he did that.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Today.

Speaker 6 (03:35):
It seems like a pretty normal, straightforward answer, but it
takes new weight when we see what Trump is saying
about the outcome of his trial. We're hearing from the
Republicans who say they don't accept the jury's verdicture in
New York.

Speaker 7 (03:47):
The contrast is profound to sit there and say, well,
I'm not going to intervene in the legal process, and
I wouldn't pardon my son one side, Democrats and Joe
Biden protecting the justice system, and on the other Plicans
and Trump protecting Trump.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Our current president of the United States has so much
respect for the law that he has said he would
not pardon his son. I mean, what you know, again,
it's all about the contrast.

Speaker 8 (04:14):
President Biden saying I will respect whatever this jury decides,
versus Donald Trump after he was convicted on thirty four counts,
saying the entire system is rigged against him.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
I need a cup of coffee. That was too rich,
that dessert was too rich. I need a quick cup
of coffee to cut through that, because it's gushing up
my mouth and so much of the.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Coverage yesterday the day before was couched in the hole
comparing it to Trump or Trump says or what about Trump? Well,
there is a very very good reason CNN is dying,
MSNBC is dying, and they all may soon go away
or become shelves of the former selves.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
And the alphabet networks are heading in the same direction.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Some of it is just the winds of change, but
we all feel the wins have change. The question is
do you adjust your sales, do you up your game?
Do you find a way to get better or at
least survive? And the answer for the alphabet networks and
especially the cable networks is no, absolutely not. They've doubled
down on the worst of their tendencies.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well know, I.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Shouldn't be enjoying this so much, because there's there's a
decent chance that these people actually believed that their president
was going to do that, he was going to abide
by the Justice Department and followed the.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Effort encountered Joe Biden before.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
Seriously, the guy's a congenital liar, not a Joe.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
I gotta admit I was shocked the first time, or
the most declarative time, because there's one time with David
Muir on ABC where he said it more specifically. David
Muir asked, have you made a decision? You've thought about it?
Have you thought about it? Made decision? I have thought
about it, and I've made a decision I will not
pardon my son. I thought that one was so like

(05:59):
declare arrative that left no none of that lawyerly wiggle
room ish anything, And I actually thought, Wow, that is
a heck of a thing. He's gonna let his son
go to prison just to show that, you know, there
are consequences.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah. No, NBC's reporting yesterday was all along. They were planning.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
It was just they made the decision to go out
and claim they would pardon or not pardon them.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
And then they would just figure out how to handle
it behind the scenes.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
Wow okay, Yeah, yeah, we just hold off the heat
until the act was done. And you know, at that point,
we're laying ducks. We're on our way out of here.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
And that's that's why everybody should be horrified by this,
because it just makes everybody that much more cynical.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
And why wouldn't it How does it not make you
more cynical? Wow?

Speaker 5 (06:53):
It should, Yeah, it really should the Great Jonathan Turley
had a comment or two Michael Unleash forty one on
the good folks if you want.

Speaker 9 (07:01):
Well, you know, the president clearly is hoping that he's
given him this sweeping protection and that includes unnamed crimes
quite literally there, you know, Hunter Biden could have you know,
six heads in a duffel bag in his basement and
this would cover it as long as he committed those
murders during this ten year period. It would not protect him,

(07:21):
by the way from state charges. But it's a sweeping
a pardon that we haven't seen really the likes of
since Nixon. I. It's pretty unprecedented in that respect. The
problem is that Hunter could be called before Congress. Congress
has committees that are still looking into the influence peddling
scandal involving millions and millions of dollars. He could be

(07:45):
called to testify. Last time he did that, the House
accused him of being misleading even false in his testimony.
If he commits perjury again, it's a new crime and
this pardon will not have an impact and he could
face a diition charges.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Six heads in a duffel bag would be quite a story,
and his mass.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Be heading a federal crime. I don't know. I'd have
to look that up, and Hunter could go, eh, walk
out the door.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
Wow, totally. In a different clip we played earlier, called
the Bidens the Goats of Corruption, which really sounds like
either a protest metal band, as I said earlier, or
a I don't know, as a poorly received political novel.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
The Goats of corup maybe a biblical phrase.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Yeah we God, yeah yahweh unleashed it on the Egyptians
for you know, the israelis too long.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
And then he said, with the goats of corrupt, he
saw the golden calf and realized they needed to be
teached to listen bit teached.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
Uh yeah, he's just talking about how and getting back
to the hole.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
It walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
This is so obviously a dodge to protect the Biden
crime family, but they got away with it. I'm hoping
the story is told at some point the cosmic justice
of history reckoning with the Biden administration and the Biden
family as crooks.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
That would be good enough for me.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
I don't know, And maybe that's meaningless, but no, I
don't think it does.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
It is meaningless.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
I think we've talked about this a lot, including earlier,
the importance of culture, and how culture is much more
massive and important and precious than we ever give it. Culture,
for evil doers have to be called out as evil doers,
even if they are moldering in the grave.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Well, this is all pretty recent. I was looking at
a pol the other day. I should dig it up
because I screen captured the results. We think government will
do the right thing was like solid three quarters of
Americans up into the mid seventies.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, so ours.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
This cynicism about government is pretty damn new. Now you
could say, well, that's just because we were dumb and
didn't know what they were doing, and now we do
know what we're doing, so we rightly are cynical.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah. I suppose you could say that, But I don't know,
And I think there's more evil doing. I think, for instance, yeah,
I uh.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
And the way I would convince you is this, the
willingness to wildly overspend revenue is a moral failing. It's
it's not a merely a fiscally irresponsible thing. It is
a huge moral failing, and that just it shows a
moral route that that goes.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
I think it all sorts of directions, definitely, but that's
that's that's not illegal, and we do have some control
over that as voters and don't seem to care. But
as far as just like people being crooks, I always
remember this en I've tried to find it.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
I hope I remember it correctly because I've been saying
it for years. This goes way back. Bill Clinton.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Was on Larry King on CNN, So this is back
in the day when that was sort of thing, and
they're talking about corruption and whatnot. And Bill Clinton asked
Bob Dole, who had been around d C for a
long time, do you think things are more corrupt now
or less corrupt or there's more of that going on
right now? And Bob Dole said, oh, much less, much

(11:28):
less now. It's just people know more about it, so
it seems like there's more. Ah, And I've always thought
about that that I could believe that's true, but I
don't know. I don't know, but certainly this isn't gonna
make a lot of people cynical, a whole new generation
of cynical between the Trump is the new Hitler And

(11:49):
as soon as the election's over, you're like, ay, whatever,
and I think I'll go have lunch at his house
and an in pardoning hunter. After all that talk about
we're the party who believes in the justice system, I
don't know. The next generation of young people are gonna
be pretty damn cynical. Two final notes from me. Number one,
Apparently there is now available at the Armstrong in Getty

(12:10):
store a Goats of Corruption t shirt com It's a
nice font with a crown over the word goats.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
I believe I think that's a crown. Is that a
crowd is a crown? That is goats of corruption? The
Biden family.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
And my second comment is, actually these are all ecliped
number fifty four, Michael, these are all the leading lights
of the Democratic Party.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
This nation was founded on the principle that there are
no kings in America.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Each each of us is equal before the law. No one,
no one is above the law. The fact is, no
one is above the law in this country. No one
is above the law.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
The American principle that no one is above the law
was reaffirmed.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Make no mistake, no one, not even the President of
the United States, is above the law. And my administration,
no one in no one is above the law. God.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
When Trump heard the news that Biden pardoned a hunter,
he had to be figuring, oh my god, is this unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Because now I thought I was shameless.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
He's seeking I can pardon myself now or pardon other people.
And it has like ten percent of the sting it
would have had otherwise. Correct. Correct, So free pass. We
got to take a break. But a quick question, are
there more to come? Do you think Joe Partons's brother
or anybody else involved in any of this stuff?

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Entirely possible? Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
He will issue a bunch of you know, twelve hour,
eleventh hour pardons, as all presidents do, and some of
them could be family.

Speaker 10 (13:49):
Really.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Yeah, he does those midnight pardons, and then you know,
you got the whole day one. Donald Trump going after
the border deportion or whatever deportation. That'll that'll just off
out any any knowledge of the Biden pardons.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
More on the way, Stay here, Bob, I'm strong, and
Getty says who.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
Bob Doll says, who.

Speaker 11 (14:11):
Strong.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Painsley on Fox and Friends or whatever that show is
is wearing leather pants today. And I noticed that, as
as a guy who notices this sort of thing, leather
pants seem to be a thing.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
I know.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
There was quite a few women wearing leather or full
leather pants this leather fall season.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
Yes, it's back and better than ever leather pants. That's
the pleasure of wearing them. Yeah, yeah, you've never warned
them yourself. No, no, I have not.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
I have not either. Are you wearing leather pants, hedy,
I can't see.

Speaker 11 (14:44):
Uh, I am not wearing leather pants, and I do
not recommend it.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
I have before, and it's not a fun time chafing. No,
it's just hot and not comfortable. Okay, they look hot though,
that's what I hear. Look awesome. Oh my, this is troubling.
Perhaps we should just move on. HR is walking down
here right now.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Yeah, so I want to apologize. I really booted one yesterday,
as the Baseball Reference booted a ground ball. We were
talking about the Doge Commission and their efforts to save
money on the federal budget, and we were talking about
how much of the budget is mandatory spending Medicare, Medicaid,
social Security, et cetera. And then you've got your discretionary

(15:27):
spending and you can rain that in a lot and
the Pentagon and all. And I went too softly on
a couple of things. I mean, like way too softly
making the Pentagon more efficient. We did talk about making
sure it's not about the military industrial complex. It's about
the foreign policy and the fighting men and women in

(15:47):
the United States incredibly important.

Speaker 11 (15:51):
So.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
Let's put that aside. But getting back to Medicare and
Medicaid in particular, and to a lesser extent, social Security.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
I had semi spaced off a.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
Couple of stories that I've been sitting on wanting to
bring up for a long time, including this one. Insurers
collected billions from Medicare for veterans who cost them almost nothing.
These are veterans who have Medicare as kind of a backup,
but they get Vacare, but they're insurers. Their Medicare advantage.
Insurers get many thousands of dollars a year to cover

(16:27):
the cost of things that never happen. And then there
was a story that the Wall Street Journal covered not
long ago about this incredible rampant fraud industry where insurance
companies that are billing the government send a nurse to
Old Joe Getty's house and they say, hey, old Joe Getty,

(16:48):
show me your elbow.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Do that would you.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
Oh my gosh, you got old guy elbow syndrol, and
we're gonna need to get paid one thousand dollars a
month to treat.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
That, but they never treat it. It's an enormous scam.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
So yeah, what I didn't really bring up, we didn't
talk about is we need to institute a culture of
accountability and efficiency in our mandatory programs.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I love that sounds fantastic, Armstrong and getty.

Speaker 8 (17:17):
Despite the crowds, the TSA says Laser focused on the
biggest threat to America liquids over three ounces.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
It's true.

Speaker 8 (17:26):
On their social media, they posted this photo featuring confiscated
water bottles and one bottle of ranch dressing.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
You know, you just know, you know.

Speaker 8 (17:39):
There was there was some dad who tried to chug
the whole thing before giving it up. I paid for this,
damn it, and I'm not gonna waste the kids you
get to work on the thousand Island? Does anyone have
any salary?

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Are the three ounces for liquids similar to the six
feet apart for COVID?

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Just like a random number might be no flowed down
to that one plot to combine.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
If that was one God hadn't tried to light his
shoes on fire, nobody'd be taking their shoes off. I mean,
so it's just all these the reactions to a single
plot that live on for the rest of our lives.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
I guess, all eternity. So it would seem all of eternity.
I hope not.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
I could question before we get to some news. You're
talking about discretionary spending in the government. I have discretionary
spending in my own life, as.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Most people do. Yeah, And I.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Made a threat with my kids, and I you know,
I had backed myself into a situation where I was
gonna have to follow through on it or all my
future threats would be hollow. Obviously, that particularly with one
of my sons if he didn't come up with stuff
to do other than looking at a screen. I was
gonna get rid of all of our streaming services. I'm

(18:56):
just gonna get rid of them. I mean, if if
you can't discipline yourself to do something, what should I do?
And then I always make a list, read a book,
play an instrument, walk the dog, exercise, color right, draw,
build something. I mean, it's all the things human beings
have been doing since the dawn of time. There are
things to do other than watching the screen, and so

(19:21):
it's probably gone on way too long. And so I
followed through on the threat and I canceled everything. Now
you can't canceled immediately, or maybe you can, if you
do know how to do that, let me know. But
I mean, I suppose I could get rid of the TV,
but I need to watch the news. But I canceled
all the services, so they'll all end in the next
couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
They have various start dates, so in the next couple
of weeks.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
My Netflix, my Hulu, my Paramount, my HBO, Max, my Eye,
I have all of them.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
I canceled them all.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Wow, Amazon, Apple, Yeah, I canceled them all, So it'll
be that's discretionary spending. It was kind of interesting how
much it added up to. It was several hundred dollars
a month. Oh boy, Oh, I so need to do that.
I mean, some form of it. But I hardly ever
watch them at all, and it was kind of a
drag last night. Henry went to bed early and I thought, yeah,

(20:07):
maybe i'll watch another I don't, but I don't watch
them that much, and so it'll be interesting to see
what life is like without any of those streaming services.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
I swear there's some sort of insidious, practically supernatural plot
to make sure that the shows we're interested in, Jen
and I we almost always watched together, they will touch
on each of the stream right, exactly, we haven't watched
a damn thing on Hulu for the longest time. All right,
it's time to cancel what only murders in the building.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Out with the new season? It's on what is it
on Hulu?

Speaker 10 (20:44):
Right?

Speaker 5 (20:44):
Oh, maybe we'll keep that one around for a little bit,
and then the next thing you want to see is
on whatever.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
It does.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Almost seem like that they figure out your profile of
what you like and spread them out. They might actually
do this and spread it out among all the different
streaming services to try to keep you on as many
as boss.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
Yeah, because if it was like, you know, one of
them's always rom coms and one of them's always whatever
you call breaking bad type stuff dramas, I mean, it
would be easier. But no, it's all spread out. I'll
be interesting to see how this experiment works. My son
actually said, Okay, I'm gonna start doing drugs.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Then wow, you know.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Them ah, speaking up doing drugs or being hammered or whatnot.
Back to the news, Pete Hegsath, who may or may
not become Secretary of Defense your current reading. If you
had to guess, is he going to be the second
deaf very shaky? Trump nominated him because he'd seen him

(21:48):
on Fox and Friends, I think, But uh, plenty of
people who think he would be a good candidate to
try to emphasize the role of our military men as
opposed to the hemoth that is the spending machine that
is the Pentagon.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
Yeah, he is an extremely bright and forceful thinker and
speaker on that topic. As he's very impressive, as even
people who know him and like him have said though
in podcasts I listened to and shows I watch, he
has a very messy personal life. People who know him,
you know, and you know people like that who just

(22:25):
they got messy personal lives.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Yeah, and apparently he does. I hadn't heard this particular
version from ABC News last night.

Speaker 12 (22:33):
Hag Seth is also the subject of a damning report
in The New Yorker describing multiple instances of alleged financial
mismanagement and workplace behavior concerns involving alcohol, citing an internal
whistleblower report and emails related to an organization he used
to head, including one instance where he brought his employees
to a strip club and quote haig Seth had to

(22:54):
be restrained while drunk from joining the dancers on the
stage and MANBC News has not independently confirmed their reporting.
A hag Seth advisor telling ABC, We're not going to
comment on outlandish claims laundered through The New Yorker by
a petty and jealous, disgruntled former associate of mister hag Seth's.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Yeah, first of all, you never know what's true or
what's not. You never know what was you know, half
of that or all of that or ten percent of that,
and then gets retold in a different way. And then
there's the angle of which we've talked about a lot.
So you want super brave, hard ass, tough guy fighting
men who don't drink and go to script cubs and

(23:35):
get wild down, then okay, we'll try to find some of.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Those, right. Yeah, I just came up with this expression.
I think I may have stolen it.

Speaker 5 (23:44):
He colors his life to the edges. That's pretty I'm
picturing something like a coloring or something. He colors, clear
to the colors, clear to the edges, and sometimes he
goes over a little bit. I tell you what if
he were otherwise qualified And he said, yeah, you know,
back in my late twenties, early the thirties, I was
drinking too much.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
I was living too wildlife. It was a mistake and
I'm past it. I think, okay, you.

Speaker 5 (24:09):
Know, as long as there was evidence that that that
was the case, I would not give.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
A caarcis still going to strip clubs and getting drunk
and wants to get on the stage.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
What the hell difference does that like? I think that
speaks to larger issues. It's having a good time. He's
blown off some steam. He's a fighting man. He's a
handsome man too.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
I mean, if he were to get up there, the ladies,
certainly the straight ladies in the house would be placed.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
And you know, was he joking around and he was
full restrained, or was he actually climbing on stage and
bouncers had to hold him back.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
You don't know if it happened at all.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
One bad night does not an indictment make of a
person's character. On the other hand, oh my gosh, I
read the full text of the email, his mom wrote
him that the New Times publishing they got a hold
of through a different.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Relations Senator Ted Kennedy drowned a woman and covered it up.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
For eight Since that's a fairly low bar. Well, just
lots of things happen. Have you ever drowned a young
woman then covered it up? No, Senator, not that I recall. Well,
here the keys to the Pentagon, Son, that's a hell
of a standard you got over there.

Speaker 13 (25:24):
Here the keys to the Pentagon. Anyway, there's one door
at the front, and he has the key. Hold on,
let me unlock the door. Sorry, Oh, that's that's right.
The strip club trying to get on stage.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
His his mom's email, Uh we we soft pedaled it.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I read the whole thing. It is a.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
Coldly angry, detailed, sober indictment. It's it's devastating, it's awful.
Now she again is claiming these days. She immediately wrote
him back apologize, said that was out of line.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I shouldn't have said that. Blah blah blah. But she
didn't say it's not true, though, does she? Yes, she does.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
She says, oh, it's he's a good man and a
good husband, father, And then those things I said were
not true. But that makes her just a nut that.
I mean, like I said, it wasn't. It wasn't the
spoutings of an angry, sputtering, you know, person who like
to you know, we have played an excerpt of a
phone message at the very end of the Friday Show

(26:34):
for a long time where this lover spurned is just
so angry at her lover she's dropping f bombs all
over the place and ends with have a great Friday,
you mother, Blanker. It was not like that. It was
very carefully written. And if then she fifteen minutes later
she said none of that is true, I mean, that's.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
That's crazy time.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
So at some point these questions accumulate, whether fairly or unfairly,
And if they're just too many of them, why.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
Though I don't so have we decided and I'm not
exactly sure where I am on this issue, but did
we decide as a country?

Speaker 2 (27:14):
For certain, if we had known what John F. Kennedy
was doing, he shouldn't have been president. Or Martin Luther
King Junior.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Sorry, you can't lead this of a rights movement because
you cheat on your wife all the time.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
In light of women? Is that what we is that
our standard new.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
No, clearly because we just reelected Donald J. Trump, who's
got a bit of a history himself. I just think
the key is if that is juxtapost against But this
guy is like an unbelievable reformer and has straightened out
this bureaucracy and this department. Now he's gonna put the
you know, foot to ask in the Pentagon. There's a

(27:52):
lot you could overlook. But if a guy is also
a Wow, he's got no experience as an administrator, he's
new to it.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
He's I'm not sure Shandy's a cad.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
Well.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, it all just kind of factors in.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Like I said, I don't actually know what I think
about this, but you'd have to eliminate some of the
greatest figures in US history.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Now.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Some of it is presentism in that we have completely
different beliefs about things like the own enslaves or whatnot.
But the cheating on your wife stuff from the sixties, No,
that was never cool. Nobody thought somebody in those real
lives thought that was cool.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
Yeah, I don't know. It was different certainly the way
the media dealt with it. It was your job and
then your personal life, and you just the personal life
is none of our business. Do you care, athleat or
a politician?

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Do you ever care? And this is the example I
always use.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
You ever care if the CEO of your company is
cheating on his wife going to strip clubs, I don't care.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
As long as somebody is coming going to have an
impact on the company.

Speaker 7 (28:58):
Right.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
I can't even imagine carrying other than for gossip reasons.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Right, Yeah, I know, we got to figure this out.
Maybe this will be the conversation. In fact, it probably
will be the conversation during his hearing, which will happen
in January or February.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
Here's a sports metaphor for you as a longtime San
Francco Giants fan. And I was not really down with
this at the time anyway, but Barry Bonds one of
the greatest hitters in the history of the Major League
Baseball and one of the greatest steroid consumers since Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
He was not a good presence in the clubhouse.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
He was a selfish superstar Prima donna toward the end
of his career.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
The giant head and tiny testicles.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
That's right, And that's one of the reasons the Giants
got rid of him and he couldn't really find a team.
If you hit like Barry Bonds, you can be a
prick in the clubhouse. But if you're a two twenty
hitter and you heck like that, no nobody wants you.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
And the problem with a pete hexast guy.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
And I do have a great deal of respect for
him on several different levels, but he's an unproven hitter
in this league and he's bringing the baggage in and
the questions and it's just no, it's too much. It all.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
It's the totality of it.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
This is gonna be the conversation when the hearing finally
starts if he sticks around that long, and he.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
Might not get out of the park, and if he does,
all of the concerns will be laid aside. In the
Senate will say, you know, the President gets to a
point who he wants, let's give the guy a try.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
I thought John Stewart was brilliant last night on the
whole Hunter Hunter Biden pardon.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
We have a little more of that. We will finish
strong coming up.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
John Stewart Daily Show last night went big on the
Hunter Biden pardon.

Speaker 10 (30:54):
But you know what, ladies and gentlemen, hipocrisy is an
illegal nor is it particularly unusual on politics. It's not
like he's ever going to run again, So why not
take care of your kid even if you said you
weren't gonna I respect it. I don't have a problem
with it. The problem is the rest of the Democrats
made Biden's pledge to not pardon Hunter the foundation of

(31:15):
their defense of America, this grand experiment.

Speaker 9 (31:19):
One political party remains committed.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
To the rule of law and the other doesn't. It's
that simple. Hunter Biden's not above the law. No one
is above the law.

Speaker 9 (31:26):
Democrats stand for the rule of law.

Speaker 10 (31:28):
We accept the outcome because that's how the rule of
law works.

Speaker 11 (31:31):
Because the justice system that convicted is only a surviving
son is the same justice system he's about to protect.
And if that doesn't tell you who Joe Biden is,
I don't really know what does?

Speaker 10 (31:43):
I think I know what does? And now look at
the dance Democrats have to do.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yep, look at the dance they have to do now
explaining what their guy decided all of a sudden to
pardon his son. Yeah, it's a uncomfortable position. There's some
serious tap dancing going on. But I'm hearing a lot
of people saying this went too far. I don't remember,
maybe because I'm tired. I know I've learned this a

(32:19):
half dozen times. Why does the president have the ability
to pardon anybody for anything? Why such a blanket power?
What was the original point?

Speaker 5 (32:30):
Why?

Speaker 2 (32:30):
That's a good question.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
I don't remember, like from the Federalist papers or.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
I'venates of the customer. I've known several times, and it
always makes sense. It's so that something can't happen, but
it gets abused.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
I bought that gigantic book when I was on vacation
this summer. That was like the minutes of the discussions
at the Constitutional Convention.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
I got to go dig into that.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
I hope there's an index because it's like fifteen hundred
pages long.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
But it gets abused.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
I mean, every president going out of office usually you know,
at eleven fifty nine on January twentieth, and it barely
makes the news because you're every newscast has the speech
of the new president and everything else that's happening, and
you know, some people get upset.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
About it and it goes away. But the horrible there's
been some horrible pardons in my Lifetime.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
Well, you have to get out a jail free card
for your friends and cronies.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
It's that's that's it. Yeah, this is a particularly bad
example of it thoughts. I'm strong, It's I'm strong, You're ready,
Kay Green and.

Speaker 11 (33:52):
Strong.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
We're all doing the Trump dance. You couldn't say it.
Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. Let's get
a finals off from everybody on the show. To wrap
things up for the day.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
There is our technical director keeping us on the air, Michaelangelo.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Which final thought, Michael, Yeah, My final thought is the
December third, and is finally the day. I can't eat
Thanksgiving leftovers anymore. I just I can't eat any more turkey.
I should have had you bring it in. I didn't
get any leftovers. I miss it. That is tragic. Katie
Green are esteemed Newswoman.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
As a final thought, Katie as of noxious as this
whole parton thing is.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
I am loving the montages popping up on the Internet
of just all the clips like The Hunter are doing
crack and oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, it's a gift Democrats. No one is above the low.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
John Stewart last night when he was doing his hunderbite
impersonation put a gun on the table.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Wow wow Jack. Final thought for.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Us, Yeah, I wasn't gonna talk about this, but I did.
I declared, my favorite flavor is like turkey gravy stuffing
mashed potatoes together. That spoonful of that is my favorite
all time flavor.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
God, that's good.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
I'm too hungry to think, oh gosh, my favorite.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
My final thought, I'm not the least bit tired of
calling out the outrageousness of this blanket immunity for his
partner in crime, his boy, Joe Biden's boy. It is
so much bigger than a commutation of a sentence or
pardoning for a specific crime. It is a superpower granted

(35:29):
to a known criminal by his papa. Armstrong in Getty
where I thick got about other grueling four hour workday.
So many people, thanks, so little time. Go to Armstrong
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Speaker 2 (35:45):
The crap T shirt.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
I like random T shirts that need explanation. I think
that's hilarious. We will see you tomorrow. God bless America.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
Listen up, Jack Wagon Wirst episode.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Every let's hug and love each other and we'll be
back with more right after these works.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Damn, that's just the way it is. Empty and Boom
goes to dynamite. Whoo, let's go with the.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
You know what, I'm in the mood for, bone deep sadness,
sadden to the bones, to the bone full of melancholy.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Sad that I know. Thank you all very much, Armstrong
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