December 5, 2024 • 36 mins
Hour 4 of A&G features...
- Tom Homan is cracking down on immigration
- "Why can't you admit when democrats are wrong?!"
- Supreme Court hearing over trans "care" for minors
- Final Thoughts!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Gatty arm Strong and Jettie and no Hee arm Strong
and Ytty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I don't understand why this administration lost their minds. I mean,
we're at the point now with this administration where it's
someone who enforces the law. Ice officers they're the bad guys,
but those who broke our laws, they're the victims. This
whole world's upside down under this administration. That's why I'm
very excited about President Trump taking taking back to White
House January twentieth. I'm waiting, and I'm not waiting to
start my job. I'm already meeting with Texas Governor Abbott.
(00:46):
I'm here in Dallas, Texas. I go to Arizona morrow.
We're already working on fixing this problem. So can't wait
for January twentieth so we can actually get started doing
the real work.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
The great Tom Holman going to head up the Border Forces,
among other things administration. He's essentially saying, cut the crap,
and it struck me the similarities between what he was saying.
They've hit America with such a blizzard of ideology and
slogans and stuff that now the law enforcement guys who
(01:16):
are bound by very strict rules and regulations, the constitutions,
the rest of it, they're the bad guys. And the criminals,
the Venezuelan gang members, those are the victims. I mean,
we've got I think the sane among us have been
so snowed by all this ideology that, like people will
say there's no actual difference between men and women, We're thinking, yeah,
I keep hearing that maybe I'm wrong about this, No,
(01:38):
you're not wrong.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Well that's insane. On the border stuff, I uh.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
I was going to do a rant about NPR today
after I was listening to them talk about the deportation
plans and stuff like that, and guess what direction they
came from on that story. I was going to say, hey,
you listener out there, if you come across anything other
than Fox and News Nation that presents the deportation story
in even a neutral way, let alone in a positive way.
(02:04):
Since sixty percent of America approves of it, you could,
you know, you could get away with presenting it in
kind of a positive way as the NBC Evening News.
But every news outlet is presenting the whole deportation plan
as a horror, even though sixty percent of America wants.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
It is that something it is, And that just goes
to show you how powerful ideology is that they might
call it principle, but I think it's just nutty ideology
that you wouldn't just say, Hey, the vast majority of
Americans think this on this topic, so let's do some
reporting that reflects that more or less.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
They actually on NPR today had.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
A pregnant woman from Central America someplace, so she's pregnant
and trans. They mentioned at the end, a pregnant trans woman. Oh,
for goodness sakes, who might be deported under Trump's plan.
I thought, you've got to be kidding me. And I
(03:03):
was thinking they can't defund NPR fast enough.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah, wow, Well, you folks are NPR. You're making parody impossible.
You're gonna put the Babylon b out of business. You're
such a you're such a parody of yourselves. Anyway, Tom
Mahoman had one more thing to say though, that I
thought was significant.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Ninety three.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Please, Michael, I'm finding out today a lot of these
children at three hundred thousand missing children, that they didn't
even take fingerprints of the sponsors that they so supposedly
you know, vetted. So it's gonna be a daunting tasks.
I'm hoping the records maintain. I'm hoping. I know Jim
Jordan reached out Tolling to maintain the records. I doubt
that's going to happen. It's gonna be a difficult task.
But ICE is very good at what they do. Under
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the Trump administration, they remove record amounts of criminal animals.
Under the Biden administration, ICE has the lowest numbers of
removals in the history of the agency, even though we
have a historic crisis. So there's gonna be hard work.
I got twenty thousand men and women. They're very good
at this. We're gonna work very hard to find as
many as we can at the same time rescue these children.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
Boy in the Bob Woodword book, when they got into
the part about how the Biden administration was dealing with
this behind the scenes, when they realized it was a crisis,
not because they were, you know, cared about America only
when it became a political problem. But he described it
would we're described it as one of the biggest migrations
in world history what happened.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
During the four years of the Bid administration.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
And it's true statistically, it's one of the biggest migrations
of human beings on planet Earth in the history of
the world.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So one aspect of this that's going to be really
interesting in extra feisty, is how Ice and the Feds
interact with various governors and mayors, and especially of these
so called sanctuary districts.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I'd love to see the Supreme Court take a look
at that.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
But Alexis McAdams was on special report talking about this
the other day.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
We'll do ninety Michael, then pause, like to speak with
our borders. We could work together.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I want to sit down and hit a plan that's in.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Stark contrast to Democrats in other sanctuary cities, like in Chicago,
where Mayor Brandon Johnson says he'll fight to stop deportation
even after the city has spent more than half a
billion dollars on the migrant crisis. Now he's floating a
sixty million dollar property tax hike to help pay Chicagoan's
(05:26):
blasting Johnson, calling him the worst mayor in America.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Trump, come home, please come.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Here first, because you know what we gonna help you.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
The people Chicago, We're done with you.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
The first voice you heard was Harrik Adams in New
York saying, hey, Tom Holman, come, we'll work together and
then let's go. Brandon Johnson, the lunatic Marxist Teachers Union
HOE in Chicago is saying the opposite.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Now, the next.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Part of Alexis report was the part that really really
caught my ear.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Listen to these numbers please.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
This outrage comes as Fox News digs into some shocking
numbers from ICE, which shows that out of the almost
eight million migrants who have crossed in the US illegally,
nearly nine percent are convicted criminals or have charges pending,
and more than fifty eight thousand migrants with criminal records
are out in the streets of New York City.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Almost sixty thousand known criminals in New York City alone.
And you're a racist if you say, hey, some of
these people that are coming over, we don't want them
in the country for years and years.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
I feel like we still haven't gotten to the conversation
that we need to get to at some point of
how many people do we want every year?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
From where? With what skills? Does that ever happen. Do
we ever have that conversation?
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Because that seems like the grown up way to handle it.
Let's come up with a number, because it could be
a pretty large number that we need. Oh the other
thing that m PR this is the reason I was
all fired up today. The other thing they did on
NBRRE and I just caught the end of it. I
wish i'd caught the beginning because I don't know where
the study came from. A study shows that Americans will
actually lose jobs with the deportation of illegals.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
And I thought, how did you twist statistics to come
up with that?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'll give me ten minutes. I could
come up with us.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
We do need lots of people to do work for
variety of reasons, some of which I hate culturally. But
how many from where? With what skills and what's the
process going to be. Let's come up with something and
at what costs?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Because the people of Chicago, and it's remarkable, and one
has to you know, or you know, your mind goes
back to the changes in the demographics of the votes,
where more and more black people are becoming Republicans. Now
it's still a minority but it's more and some of
the residents of Chicago it's been encouraging because ideology doesn't
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matter to them anymore, or I should say partisanship doesn't
matter to them anymore, because in their neighborhoods, in their schools,
on their streets, the reality of policy has become so
stark they can't ignore it anymore. Here's a woman at
the Chicago City Council member lighting up Mayor Brandon Johnson
ninety four.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
So what they want to do, what I believe my
mayor is doing, is attempting to use the social and
political capitulor in my community to advance the immigrant community.
And we've been seeing this since the eighteen hundreds. Frederick
Douglass warned us about this years ago, and so now
we're here, we're much more informed and enlightened people, and
we are America first. I am an eighth generation American,
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so I'm extremely invested in making this country great, as
is everybody else in my community. Please don't racialize this
deportation fight. Know that every American is in lockstep with
this because we deserve to.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Spend our money in better ways. Christmas is coming.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
Why should we have to pay extra in taxes.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Giant new property tax to support migrant centers.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Come on again. When the rubber meets the road.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
During the Trump administration, some of these uh jurisdictions actually
defy federal law. Here we go, that'll be interesting.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Well, so before we take a break, they've released some
new photos of the assassin of the CEO of United Healthcare,
and the conversation continues of is this some sort of
like paid, highly trained professional assassin or kind of a
lone wolf nutjob. Well, the newest pictures that came out,
(09:37):
I think they're from when he stopped at Starbucks, which
is an interesting thing to do as an assassin. You
know what, I think it's steady, the hands have I had
a latte real quick. So he goes into the Starbucks
and he's got a he's a good looking guy, looks
like he could be the next Bachelor if this weren't
such a horrific crime.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
And he's got a big smile on his face.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
So Socidy takes his mask down.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
And so does that mean he's got to be either
like the coldest of professional killers or completely nuts.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I don't understand why as a professional killer you would
want to complicate your life.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
By stopping at Starbucks.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Well, well you're point doing everything you just described. Your
points are about to expire. You just realized it.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Oh Jesus Tuesday. If I don't order something, I lose
my points. Well, it's just I can't come up with
a reason that you got to. I think you'd have
to be I think it means he's.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
A crazy person or stupid.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
I suppose it could be just stupid.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, how are you that smiley though?
Speaker 6 (10:35):
That's like, this is minutes before he murders a guy
in cold blood.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah, you're definely pretty unbalanced. If you are not, I
mean I can see. I think we've all thought about
circumstances under which we would have to take another human life,
and while it would be necessary and justifiable, it would
still be heartbreaking, sickening in most cases. Ask any cop
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who's had to do that for the first time. But
to be smilingly ordering a coffee and showing your face, yeah,
that's that's not a cold blooded pro killer. Yet he
had a plan to get away, it would seem. I
mean he had it straight down the street and then
took a ride and was off into Central Park and everything,
and yeah, I'm still leaning there a lot of brands
(11:26):
are crazy or they don't all include, you know, being
so psychotic you can't say, you know, an e.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Bike would be a good way to get away from the.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Scene, right right, right, right right. Interesting.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Now, they're certainly worried in New York. One of the
reasons it's getting so much coverage in New York as
it happened in New York. And there's a killer on
the loose who's willing to gun down business people and
cold blood on the street in the middle of the day.
So and who knows, maybe he's got a list. Yeah right,
we don't know what was motivating him.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Coming up.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Highlights and low lights of the oral arguments in front
of the Supreme Court yesterday over the ten See transgender law.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Some interesting stuff for sure.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Uh yeah, why didn't I buy bitcoin? That's the thing
that's on my mind today. It's since the election got
more of the way you stay.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Here when he kept saying things like, oh, you know,
nobody's above the law.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
I respect, you know, the jury's decision in regards to
my son.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
He didn't believe that, but he didn't have to volunteer
that lie to begin with.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
I'm going to stop you for a second, only because
you don't know that it was a lie.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
We don't know why he changed You.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Really think he just changed his mind with thanks given weekend.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
All, I'm going to tell you what I think.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Okay, I think he changed his mind because he got
sick of watching everybody else get over.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
That's why can't you say what Democrats are wrong?
Speaker 5 (12:48):
And why can't Republicans say?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
We Republicans will tell you when democrats? No, I don't can.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
I had heard that.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
I've never listened to Charlemagne the God. All I've heard
is what you've heard is the clips we've paid on
this show. But I like the cut of his jib.
We don't agree on our politics, but at least he's
an honest guy. Him saying to Whoopi Goldberg, why can't
you say when Democrats are wrong?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:12):
And then she says blah blah bah.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
He says, that's ridiculous, Yeah, it is ridiculous. Good God.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I try really hard to not do that.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
I try really hard to not do Trump does all
kinds of things that I think are insane.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Or wrong, but still he can't even call out Biden
on this crack right, give me a break. Oh on
that topic. Listen to this, would you. This is from
the good folks at NewsBusters. They did an analysis of
PBS News Hour. You're just talking about NPR before enjoying
my tax dollars in yours.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Uh, PBS News Hour is twenty seven times more likely
to use the term far right than the term far left.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
No way, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
By the way, did you see Trump's going on Meet
the Press Sunday as the bravest president in terms of
interviews maybe ever? He's going on Meet the Press for
like a full half hour or forty five minutes with
Kristin Walker. That's the network that just you know, tried
to destroy Pete Heggzeth with a whole bunch of unnamed.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Sources and stories.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
He goes at the person that makes him the angriest.
That's just the way you've built. Yeah, DeSantis does that too, brilliantly.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
But PBS used one hundred and sixty two variations of
far right labels and six for far left one hundred
and sixty two to six.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
They also used the.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Mirror the softer right wing and left wing at levels
labels at a disparity of thirty three to six. So
overall the labeling disparity was one hundred and ninety five
to twelve.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
All right, well, if you want to keep doing that,
go ahead. You'll keep getting people like that you don't like,
like Donald Trump elected, if you're going to keep pretending
we aren't onto.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
You, right, Although I think some of them are so delusional,
they're actually not aware of it.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
I know people like this personally in my own life, so.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yet are there's so much like lack of cognitive dissonance
in their heads or something.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I don't know how to describe it exactly, but they're
aware of it intellectually, but it is so mystifying to
them that more than half of America disagrees with them vehemently.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
They can't process it.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I've got this editorial by a college profess I think
he's a professor, and he says, I can't conceive of
why someone could support Donald Trump. That's why I need
to talk to them.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
You know, I thought it was well said.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I never thought about this before.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
But people I know who are way right wing, like
way more right wing than me, like I think into
the kind of crazy territory call.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Themselves right wing.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
And know the right wing people I know who are
left wing, like into the crazy territory left wing, think
they're moderates. Yes, the right wingers I know, know the
right wingers are proud to call themselves the right wing.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
The super left wingers I know think they're just middle
of the road.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, correct, isn't that weird? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
For instance, people into radical queer theory, radical gender theory.
There's no real difference scientifically between a man and a woman.
How can you tell me what a woman is? I'm
not a biologist. Those people think they're mainstream. They're lunatics.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
By the way, Hansen got to mention this to you.
They are having a hearing about the whole Secret Service
Trump almost being assassinated thing, Trump assassination attempt. Hearing goes
off the rails as shouting match erupts between Acting Secret
Service Director and gop rep. So you might want to
check in on that Anson, see if you can get
us the audio now.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
We're talking coming up in moments.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Highlights and low lights of the oral arguments before the
Supreme cart Court yesterday involving the Tennessee law that was
outlawing cruel experiments on Confused adolescents who think they're the
other sex.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Really interesting stuff. Stay with us if you can.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
If you can't, grab the podcast Armstrong and Getty on
demand Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 9 (17:15):
These are not doctors being forced to provide this medication.
These are doctors who are wanting to treat their patients
in the best way that they know how, based on
the best available evidence to us. And these are young
people who may have known since they were two years
old exactly who they are, who suffered for six seven
years before they had any relief. And what's happening here.
It's not the kids who are consenting to this treatment,
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it's the parents who are consenting to the treatment. And
as a parent, I would say, when our children are suffering,
we are suffering. And these are parents who love their children,
who are listening to the advice of their doctors, of
the mainstream medical community, and doing what's right for their kids.
In the state of Tennessee has displaced their judgment.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Most of that was irrelevant and the rest of it
was thick. Yeah, As I often say, people don't offer
crappy arguments because they're keeping their good ones safe for later.
It's because that's all they've got. That is one of
the lawyers, a mustached young woman who presents as a man,
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Chase Strangio, who was arguing against the Tennessee law that
was before the Supreme Court yesterday.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
It took my fifth hearing of that to catch on
to the fact that she changes her argument in the
middle of it. Because at the beginning, it's the kids
know at age two that they're a different gender and
live in, you know, horrible circumstances for many years before
they get the care that they need. The relief. She said,
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first of all, why would you get relief? Where were
the even if I believe this is happening to a
particular kid, where would the relief come from. Now you've
had yours lopped off.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Had powerful chemicals, hormones, chemically castrated.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
As it were, why would that give you?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Read the Tennessee law, because now you get to be
a girl, and you look like a girl, but anyway,
somewhat like a girl.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Anyway.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
She's making the argument the kids know blah blah blah
blah blah, and then she says, the parents are making
the decision. So it's not like the kids are making
the decision. You just said, the kids are the ones
that know. So the parents are listening to the kids, Well,
in effect they've made the decision.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Then.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Yeah, there are so many tangents we could run down
on this case, but to stick to the main part
of it, the plaintiffs are alleging that the state of
Tennessee and by extension, the twenty five other states that
have returned to sanity, who have said, no, you can't
conduct these unsubstantiatable, experimental, unsupported by science treatments of confused
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adolescens anymore. It's well, you know, the headline Naxios was
Supreme Court seems likely to uphold band on gender affirming care,
and Riley Gaines tweeted, Supreme Court seems unlikely to uphold
band on unregulated or seems likely to uphold ban on
unregulated child abuse.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
They're fixed it for you.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Ideological extremists conducting cruel experiments on children.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
That's what's happening.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
But anyway, the plaintiffs are saying that the Fourteenth Amendments
event slow down Joe. The fourteenth Amendment, which demands equal
treatment under the law, which was based entirely on race,
also applies to this question because it's about sex, and
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as in race, where there's what's called strict scrutiny of
any discrimination on race, because racial animis is primarily irrational,
and so if a law differentiates between say, black people
and Mexican people, or black people and white people, you
got to have a really, really good reason you can
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prove is true. The case against Tennessee rests on the
idea that there's.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
No rational difference between men and women. That's not a
real thing.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
It's a social construct, which is an idea of philosophy
that would have been laughed out of every court on
Earth up till about ten minutes ago, and ten minutes
from now it'll be laughed out of every court on
earth again. But during this bizarrow moment of radical gender
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theory having its day, and these poor little kids, these
poor little confused kids anyway, so they're saying, no, there's
no real difference between men and women. So we should
have the same strict scrutiny clause applied to If a
little boy can get testosterone because he's got some testicular problem,
for instance, well then an adolescent girl who thinks she's
a dude should be able.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
To get it too.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Otherwise, it's sex discrimination and that goes against the fourteenth Amendment.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
It's a loader crap.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Yeah, I definitely want to hear my favorite clip from yesterday.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
All right, Jack, well, we'll do that for you. Why
not Colin taking your request at the Supreme Court?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Hitline?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Uh, this is Oh, this is Matthew Price, who's one
of the lawyers for sanity joining with Sonya Soto Mayor
who has lost her flippant mind forty three.
Speaker 10 (22:22):
Michael cannot eliminate the risk of detransitioners. So it becomes
a pure exercise of weighing benefits versus risk, and the
question of how many miners have to have their bodies
irreparably harmed for unproven benefits is one of is best left.
Speaker 11 (22:40):
I'm sorry, Counselor. Every medical treatment has a risk, even
taking asprin. There is always going to be a percentage
of the population under any medical treatment that's going to
suffer a harm. So the question in my mind is
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not do policymakers decide whether one person's life is more
valuable than the millions of others who get relief from
this treatment. The question is can you stop one sex
from the other?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Yeah, the idea that even asprin has risks. What are
you talking about, you kook?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
The what you just.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I
have ever heard. Yes, everyone in this room is now
dumber for having.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Listened to it.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
That's Chief Just May God have mercy on your soul, that's.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Chief Justice John Roberts responding to myor's colleague, which is
a historical.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I mean, make mercy on your soul.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
It's not, by the way, it's from.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
What movies are from.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Uh, that's Adam Sandler. He's in school water Boy.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
What of your Adams Zandler movies?
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Anyway back, I would quibble on millions of people who've
gotten rel oh from these treatments.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Yeah, you sniffed it out. That's one of the key
phrases in there. And God blessed Samuel Alito, who lit
into the lawyers, and well, let's play part of forty five.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Michael will cut it off because it gets boring.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
But on page one ninety five of cast report, it
says there is no evidence that gender affirmative treatments reduce suicide.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Okay, and there's more of that is referring to the
lady man lawyer answers that, but badly stop it. Michael
and then Cavanaugh say it is law in six.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
If it's evolving like that and changing, and England's pulling
back and Sweden's pulling back, it strikes me, as you know,
pretty heavy yellow light, if not red light, for this
court to come in the nine of Us and just
constitutionalize the whole area when the the world, or at
least the people who have the countries that have been
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at the forefront of this, are him pumping the brakes
on this kind of treatment because of concerns about the rest.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
What he's saying is, you want us to impose a
constitutional ban on banning these procedures based on the Fourteenth
Amendment when the whole world is going in the other direction.
Even if you've got an argument that seems crazy, and
it does. But Alito absolutely tore into the Solicitor General
Elizabeth Preligar, who is arguing in favor of the Biden
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or for the Biden administration, in favor of.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
These cruel experiments on confused children.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
He tore into the idea that it often results or
always results in better outcomes, or even close to it
Alito quoted Preligar's petition of the Court claiming overwhelming evidence
supports the notion that puberty blockers and hormone treatments improve
the well being of adolescence confused about their sex. The
Solicitor General statement parents common left wing advocate talking points
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about this sort of thing. To counter prolig are, Alito
cited extensive research from European countries showing otherwise, including a
study from a Swedish medical board that concluded the risks
of transgender treatment outweigh purported benefits. Also, he also referred
to the United Kingdom's cast Review which you heard there,
which found little evidence to further the viewpoint that the
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benefits of transgender treatment are greater than the risks. So
what you're talking about is an unscientifically unsupportable experimental treatment
on children that the rest of the world is running
from as fast as they can.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
And Tennessee has said no, no, this is not good.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Our legislature, elected by the people says no, you can't
do these experiments on kids anymore. And the Biden administration,
these activist groups want the Constitution to stand in the
way of protecting the children. May God have mercy on
their souls.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
So the great club, the threat that the trans community has,
or transactivists rather, has been the whole suicide thing. You
want your kid to commit suicide, you want to have
a dead son, Well, then don't give them the gender
firming a care that they need.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
They actually say that to terrify parents sitting there in
the office.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
And it's based on a study.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
And I remember we looked into this a couple of
years ago, but I relooked it up again. It's a
study is the history of twenty seven self selected trans
people that had more problems, quite possibly than the average
trans person as they were picked for this. People taking
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apart this study said participants were not randomly selected. This
will mean that trans people who have had experienced the
most difficulties in life may be more likely to be
suicidal than the average person out there. The risk chartificially
increasing the percentage of the participants with the suicide history.
We don't know when these suicide attempts occurred among these
thirteen out of twenty seven people. I mean, that's a
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very small sample size anyway, sure, but other data from
the study shows it to sorry. Some are all may
have occurred after social and or medical transition and may
not reflect the true suicide risk if trans children are
not supported in transition, so they don't even know if
the suicide attempt was before they got the gender of
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froming care, or during or after.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
In other words, this study lends zero wisdom to the discussion.
It's useless. Well, it's it's the opposite of useful. It's
actually damaging the discussion.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
We're also not told if these thirteen young trans people
who considered suicide to con center themselves gay or straight. Other
data from studies show that people who identify as lesbian, gay,
or bisexual are almost twice as likely to have attempted
suicide than people.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Who are straight.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
So just in general, it's higher for people in the
for whatever reason, in the gay community.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah, you cannot cite this study for anything. It's not
even a study. It's it's it's uh, you would you
would get a d in middle school science for this
so called study. It's it's utterly, utterly fraudulent.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Ay, they what a horrible thing to do.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
I mean, this is not just your line about climate
change or something like that. Oh my god, to to
to sit parents down and say your kid is gonna
kill themselves unless you have them undergo these amazing treatments.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
To that point, several D transitioners were actually there at
the court yesterday and have been doing interviews, raising their
voices to describe how they are rushed into permanently scarring
transgender operations when they were mentally distressed teenagers. Some D
transitioners of file lawsuits alleging medical practitioners practitioners wrongfully push
them to undergo treatments with lasting consequences such as infertility
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and sexual dysfunction, without any addressing their mental health situation.
Also worth mentioning Missouri gender clinic whistleblower Jamie Reid came
forward with allegations last year that her facility in Saint
Louis was pushing severely disturbed miners into life altering treatment
with little interest in alternative options. The New York Times
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later substantiated reads allegations, which played a major part in
Red state legislation to prevent miners from receiving transgender medical operations.
And the leading medical organization pushing for the transgender treatments
is the World Professional Association for Transgender Health w PATH,
a group that internally observed the experimental nature of transgender
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operations and patient's lack of awareness for their consequences in
their own paperwork that's been seen and discovered.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
How much of the how much of the progress using
my finger quotes that the the transitioning children's world has
made was due to these suicide threats? I think a
lot of it too. It's been significant, and the mainstream
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media does such a horrible job on this. I mean,
it's one thing that I lost straws plastic straws in
my town because a nine year old baked up stone
statistics about plastic straws and turtles. But the mainstream media
ran with that and printed it like it was a
study done by Johns Hopkins over decades and did the
same thing with something much more important. With this, this
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is a tiny, sketchy, one time all kinds of problems
with its study, but it drove this whole conversation over
the last half dozen years. There should be hundreds of
people heading for jail on these cruel experiments on children.
It's shocking that the ideology, the radical gender theory ideology,
is so infiltrating our universities and some state houses that
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we permitted this to happen at all. It's unthinkable, and
Europe is ahead of us and figuring out that this
was unthinkable. We'll finish strong next. I'm not sure there's
any value in congressional hearings whatsoever. Maybe if they weren't
on TV, if they were behind closed doors, which obviously
has its problems because there's only so much grand standing.
(32:11):
But uh, you got the House, particularly Republicans, wanting to
grill the Secret Service on how Donald Trump almost got assassinated.
Dang good questions. Still lots of things need to be answered.
I guess it broke down a little bit. Let's hear it, special.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Agent in charge of the detail? Were you the special
agent charge of the detail that day?
Speaker 12 (32:30):
Actually, let me address this. Could you please staff leave
the Oh no, leave that one up with the circle
around me.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Thank you.
Speaker 12 (32:36):
So, Actually, congressman, what you're not seeing is the sack
of the detail off out of the pictures view. And
that is the day where we remember the more than
three thousand people that have died On nine to eleven.
I actually responded to ground zero. I was there going
through the ashes of the World Trade Center. I was
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there at Fresh Kills. I'm not asking you that conuer
and the same were you ark show respect for a
secret services hot die?
Speaker 2 (33:07):
I don't know know that you're trying to be do.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
That invoke nine eleven.
Speaker 12 (33:10):
For political purposes not I'm in fucking sir.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
To ask him least.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
And don't care only me.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I like the member of Congress, and I'm asking you
a serious question, and you were.
Speaker 12 (33:25):
I am a public servant who has served this nation,
and you won't tie questions on our day, on our
country's darkness.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Hmm.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
I'd need to hear what led up to it, because
the congress person obviously brought up nine to eleven first,
which when when the Secret Service guy started yelling about it, thought,
what do you doing trying to lean on that? Oh,
but the congress person brought it up first in some context?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Need some context.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
I would need to hear that.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Thought, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
They were pretty hot bear though. Here's your host for
final thoughts, Joe.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Getty's get a final thought from everybody on the crew
to wrap things up to the day. First of all,
our technical director, Michael, Go ahead, Michael, what's on your mind?
I'd like to see more of that in Congress, more
yelling and screaming and maybe an occasional office fight. Yeah, yeah, right,
Katie Greener esteemed to news woman as a final thought, Katie,
I just want to say how grateful I am to
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have a job where linees like, why do your bowels
have an English accent?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
A drop? I forgot that because they're sophisticated. Jack, Do
you have a final thought for us?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
You know what?
Speaker 6 (34:31):
I think I've come to some calm, happy place where
I'm just accepting that our politics are really bad and
probably not going to get better. We're never going to
attack the deficit. America is going to be in decline
for the rest of my life, in my kids'.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Lives, and it's just what it is, and I can
do about it. I'll fight an inch my inch, but
I'm just going to accept it.
Speaker 10 (34:52):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
My final thought was going to have to do with
the whole gender betting madness and the children who, the
poor confused adolescents who and Austin his stick off and
poor victims of this ideology. That stuff we can change,
and I would encourage you to join us in the
fight to change it. The radical ideologies, and I've got
lots of evidence that are just absolutely Our schools are
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soaking in it. We feel like we're making progress, but man,
education is a cesspool of it. That fight is still
going on, and to the extent that we can win it,
we're gonna help a hell a lot of people.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Yeah, that's why I want to continue fighting it inch
by inch, because for an individual person, it's kind of
like the crabs on the beach story.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
You help that one.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
Yeah, Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
It's usually starfish, but you have crabs and that's shine.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Don't say that.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
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and Getty dot com. Hit the Armstrong and Getty superstore.
Speaker 11 (35:46):
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Speaker 4 (35:46):
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Speaker 5 (35:52):
Henson's going to turn that into a drop. God bless her.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I'm strong and getcha. This is a message for the
people of America.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
I've spent every day I call say that this is
the last joy.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Anyone else humping the meltdown, I got nothing for you
on that.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
All of a sudden, your bowels say, well, good morning, haul,
I'm feeling excellent about the day, and there's something I
would like to accomplish.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Now go poop in a bucket, you beasts.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
I'm slightly amazed by the general attitude of all of
you
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Hearing arm Strong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Gatty arm Strong and Jettie and no Hee arm Strong
and Ytty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I don't understand why this administration lost their minds. I mean,
we're at the point now with this administration where it's
someone who enforces the law. Ice officers they're the bad guys,
but those who broke our laws, they're the victims. This
whole world's upside down under this administration. That's why I'm
very excited about President Trump taking taking back to White
House January twentieth. I'm waiting, and I'm not waiting to
start my job. I'm already meeting with Texas Governor Abbott.
(00:46):
I'm here in Dallas, Texas. I go to Arizona morrow.
We're already working on fixing this problem. So can't wait
for January twentieth so we can actually get started doing
the real work.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
The great Tom Holman going to head up the Border Forces,
among other things administration. He's essentially saying, cut the crap,
and it struck me the similarities between what he was saying.
They've hit America with such a blizzard of ideology and
slogans and stuff that now the law enforcement guys who
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are bound by very strict rules and regulations, the constitutions,
the rest of it, they're the bad guys. And the criminals,
the Venezuelan gang members, those are the victims. I mean,
we've got I think the sane among us have been
so snowed by all this ideology that, like people will
say there's no actual difference between men and women, We're thinking, yeah,
I keep hearing that maybe I'm wrong about this, No,
(01:38):
you're not wrong.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Well that's insane. On the border stuff, I uh.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
I was going to do a rant about NPR today
after I was listening to them talk about the deportation
plans and stuff like that, and guess what direction they
came from on that story. I was going to say, hey,
you listener out there, if you come across anything other
than Fox and News Nation that presents the deportation story
in even a neutral way, let alone in a positive way.
(02:04):
Since sixty percent of America approves of it, you could,
you know, you could get away with presenting it in
kind of a positive way as the NBC Evening News.
But every news outlet is presenting the whole deportation plan
as a horror, even though sixty percent of America wants.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
It is that something it is, And that just goes
to show you how powerful ideology is that they might
call it principle, but I think it's just nutty ideology
that you wouldn't just say, Hey, the vast majority of
Americans think this on this topic, so let's do some
reporting that reflects that more or less.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
They actually on NPR today had.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
A pregnant woman from Central America someplace, so she's pregnant
and trans. They mentioned at the end, a pregnant trans woman. Oh,
for goodness sakes, who might be deported under Trump's plan.
I thought, you've got to be kidding me. And I
(03:03):
was thinking they can't defund NPR fast enough.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah, wow, Well, you folks are NPR. You're making parody impossible.
You're gonna put the Babylon b out of business. You're
such a you're such a parody of yourselves. Anyway, Tom
Mahoman had one more thing to say though, that I
thought was significant.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Ninety three.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Please, Michael, I'm finding out today a lot of these
children at three hundred thousand missing children, that they didn't
even take fingerprints of the sponsors that they so supposedly
you know, vetted. So it's gonna be a daunting tasks.
I'm hoping the records maintain. I'm hoping. I know Jim
Jordan reached out Tolling to maintain the records. I doubt
that's going to happen. It's gonna be a difficult task.
But ICE is very good at what they do. Under
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the Trump administration, they remove record amounts of criminal animals.
Under the Biden administration, ICE has the lowest numbers of
removals in the history of the agency, even though we
have a historic crisis. So there's gonna be hard work.
I got twenty thousand men and women. They're very good
at this. We're gonna work very hard to find as
many as we can at the same time rescue these children.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
Boy in the Bob Woodword book, when they got into
the part about how the Biden administration was dealing with
this behind the scenes, when they realized it was a crisis,
not because they were, you know, cared about America only
when it became a political problem. But he described it
would we're described it as one of the biggest migrations
in world history what happened.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
During the four years of the Bid administration.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
And it's true statistically, it's one of the biggest migrations
of human beings on planet Earth in the history of
the world.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So one aspect of this that's going to be really
interesting in extra feisty, is how Ice and the Feds
interact with various governors and mayors, and especially of these
so called sanctuary districts.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I'd love to see the Supreme Court take a look
at that.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
But Alexis McAdams was on special report talking about this
the other day.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
We'll do ninety Michael, then pause, like to speak with
our borders. We could work together.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I want to sit down and hit a plan that's in.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Stark contrast to Democrats in other sanctuary cities, like in Chicago,
where Mayor Brandon Johnson says he'll fight to stop deportation
even after the city has spent more than half a
billion dollars on the migrant crisis. Now he's floating a
sixty million dollar property tax hike to help pay Chicagoan's
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blasting Johnson, calling him the worst mayor in America.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Trump, come home, please come.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Here first, because you know what we gonna help you.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
The people Chicago, We're done with you.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
The first voice you heard was Harrik Adams in New
York saying, hey, Tom Holman, come, we'll work together and
then let's go. Brandon Johnson, the lunatic Marxist Teachers Union
HOE in Chicago is saying the opposite.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Now, the next.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Part of Alexis report was the part that really really
caught my ear.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Listen to these numbers please.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
This outrage comes as Fox News digs into some shocking
numbers from ICE, which shows that out of the almost
eight million migrants who have crossed in the US illegally,
nearly nine percent are convicted criminals or have charges pending,
and more than fifty eight thousand migrants with criminal records
are out in the streets of New York City.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Almost sixty thousand known criminals in New York City alone.
And you're a racist if you say, hey, some of
these people that are coming over, we don't want them
in the country for years and years.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
I feel like we still haven't gotten to the conversation
that we need to get to at some point of
how many people do we want every year?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
From where? With what skills? Does that ever happen. Do
we ever have that conversation?
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Because that seems like the grown up way to handle it.
Let's come up with a number, because it could be
a pretty large number that we need. Oh the other
thing that m PR this is the reason I was
all fired up today. The other thing they did on
NBRRE and I just caught the end of it. I
wish i'd caught the beginning because I don't know where
the study came from. A study shows that Americans will
actually lose jobs with the deportation of illegals.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
And I thought, how did you twist statistics to come
up with that?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'll give me ten minutes. I could
come up with us.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
We do need lots of people to do work for
variety of reasons, some of which I hate culturally. But
how many from where? With what skills and what's the
process going to be. Let's come up with something and
at what costs?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Because the people of Chicago, and it's remarkable, and one
has to you know, or you know, your mind goes
back to the changes in the demographics of the votes,
where more and more black people are becoming Republicans. Now
it's still a minority but it's more and some of
the residents of Chicago it's been encouraging because ideology doesn't
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matter to them anymore, or I should say partisanship doesn't
matter to them anymore, because in their neighborhoods, in their schools,
on their streets, the reality of policy has become so
stark they can't ignore it anymore. Here's a woman at
the Chicago City Council member lighting up Mayor Brandon Johnson
ninety four.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
So what they want to do, what I believe my
mayor is doing, is attempting to use the social and
political capitulor in my community to advance the immigrant community.
And we've been seeing this since the eighteen hundreds. Frederick
Douglass warned us about this years ago, and so now
we're here, we're much more informed and enlightened people, and
we are America first. I am an eighth generation American,
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so I'm extremely invested in making this country great, as
is everybody else in my community. Please don't racialize this
deportation fight. Know that every American is in lockstep with
this because we deserve to.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Spend our money in better ways. Christmas is coming.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
Why should we have to pay extra in taxes.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Giant new property tax to support migrant centers.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Come on again. When the rubber meets the road.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
During the Trump administration, some of these uh jurisdictions actually
defy federal law. Here we go, that'll be interesting.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Well, so before we take a break, they've released some
new photos of the assassin of the CEO of United Healthcare,
and the conversation continues of is this some sort of
like paid, highly trained professional assassin or kind of a
lone wolf nutjob. Well, the newest pictures that came out,
(09:37):
I think they're from when he stopped at Starbucks, which
is an interesting thing to do as an assassin. You
know what, I think it's steady, the hands have I had
a latte real quick. So he goes into the Starbucks
and he's got a he's a good looking guy, looks
like he could be the next Bachelor if this weren't
such a horrific crime.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
And he's got a big smile on his face.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
So Socidy takes his mask down.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
And so does that mean he's got to be either
like the coldest of professional killers or completely nuts.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I don't understand why as a professional killer you would
want to complicate your life.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
By stopping at Starbucks.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Well, well you're point doing everything you just described. Your
points are about to expire. You just realized it.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
Oh Jesus Tuesday. If I don't order something, I lose
my points. Well, it's just I can't come up with
a reason that you got to. I think you'd have
to be I think it means he's.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
A crazy person or stupid.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
I suppose it could be just stupid.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, how are you that smiley though?
Speaker 6 (10:35):
That's like, this is minutes before he murders a guy
in cold blood.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah, you're definely pretty unbalanced. If you are not, I
mean I can see. I think we've all thought about
circumstances under which we would have to take another human life,
and while it would be necessary and justifiable, it would
still be heartbreaking, sickening in most cases. Ask any cop
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who's had to do that for the first time. But
to be smilingly ordering a coffee and showing your face, yeah,
that's that's not a cold blooded pro killer. Yet he
had a plan to get away, it would seem. I
mean he had it straight down the street and then
took a ride and was off into Central Park and everything,
and yeah, I'm still leaning there a lot of brands
(11:26):
are crazy or they don't all include, you know, being
so psychotic you can't say, you know, an e.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Bike would be a good way to get away from the.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Scene, right right, right, right right. Interesting.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Now, they're certainly worried in New York. One of the
reasons it's getting so much coverage in New York as
it happened in New York. And there's a killer on
the loose who's willing to gun down business people and
cold blood on the street in the middle of the day.
So and who knows, maybe he's got a list. Yeah right,
we don't know what was motivating him.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Coming up.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Highlights and low lights of the oral arguments in front
of the Supreme Court yesterday over the ten See transgender law.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Some interesting stuff for sure.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Uh yeah, why didn't I buy bitcoin? That's the thing
that's on my mind today. It's since the election got
more of the way you stay.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Here when he kept saying things like, oh, you know,
nobody's above the law.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
I respect, you know, the jury's decision in regards to
my son.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
He didn't believe that, but he didn't have to volunteer
that lie to begin with.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
I'm going to stop you for a second, only because
you don't know that it was a lie.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
We don't know why he changed You.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Really think he just changed his mind with thanks given weekend.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
All, I'm going to tell you what I think.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Okay, I think he changed his mind because he got
sick of watching everybody else get over.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
That's why can't you say what Democrats are wrong?
Speaker 5 (12:48):
And why can't Republicans say?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
We Republicans will tell you when democrats? No, I don't can.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
I had heard that.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
I've never listened to Charlemagne the God. All I've heard
is what you've heard is the clips we've paid on
this show. But I like the cut of his jib.
We don't agree on our politics, but at least he's
an honest guy. Him saying to Whoopi Goldberg, why can't
you say when Democrats are wrong?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:12):
And then she says blah blah bah.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
He says, that's ridiculous, Yeah, it is ridiculous. Good God.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I try really hard to not do that.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
I try really hard to not do Trump does all
kinds of things that I think are insane.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Or wrong, but still he can't even call out Biden
on this crack right, give me a break. Oh on
that topic. Listen to this, would you. This is from
the good folks at NewsBusters. They did an analysis of
PBS News Hour. You're just talking about NPR before enjoying
my tax dollars in yours.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Uh, PBS News Hour is twenty seven times more likely
to use the term far right than the term far left.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
No way, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
By the way, did you see Trump's going on Meet
the Press Sunday as the bravest president in terms of
interviews maybe ever? He's going on Meet the Press for
like a full half hour or forty five minutes with
Kristin Walker. That's the network that just you know, tried
to destroy Pete Heggzeth with a whole bunch of unnamed.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Sources and stories.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
He goes at the person that makes him the angriest.
That's just the way you've built. Yeah, DeSantis does that too, brilliantly.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
But PBS used one hundred and sixty two variations of
far right labels and six for far left one hundred
and sixty two to six.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
They also used the.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Mirror the softer right wing and left wing at levels
labels at a disparity of thirty three to six. So
overall the labeling disparity was one hundred and ninety five
to twelve.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
All right, well, if you want to keep doing that,
go ahead. You'll keep getting people like that you don't like,
like Donald Trump elected, if you're going to keep pretending
we aren't onto.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
You, right, Although I think some of them are so delusional,
they're actually not aware of it.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
I know people like this personally in my own life, so.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yet are there's so much like lack of cognitive dissonance
in their heads or something.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I don't know how to describe it exactly, but they're
aware of it intellectually, but it is so mystifying to
them that more than half of America disagrees with them vehemently.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
They can't process it.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
I've got this editorial by a college profess I think
he's a professor, and he says, I can't conceive of
why someone could support Donald Trump. That's why I need
to talk to them.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
You know, I thought it was well said.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I never thought about this before.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
But people I know who are way right wing, like
way more right wing than me, like I think into
the kind of crazy territory call.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Themselves right wing.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
And know the right wing people I know who are
left wing, like into the crazy territory left wing, think
they're moderates. Yes, the right wingers I know, know the
right wingers are proud to call themselves the right wing.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
The super left wingers I know think they're just middle
of the road.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Yeah, correct, isn't that weird? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
For instance, people into radical queer theory, radical gender theory.
There's no real difference scientifically between a man and a woman.
How can you tell me what a woman is? I'm
not a biologist. Those people think they're mainstream. They're lunatics.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
By the way, Hansen got to mention this to you.
They are having a hearing about the whole Secret Service
Trump almost being assassinated thing, Trump assassination attempt. Hearing goes
off the rails as shouting match erupts between Acting Secret
Service Director and gop rep. So you might want to
check in on that Anson, see if you can get
us the audio now.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
We're talking coming up in moments.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Highlights and low lights of the oral arguments before the
Supreme cart Court yesterday involving the Tennessee law that was
outlawing cruel experiments on Confused adolescents who think they're the
other sex.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Really interesting stuff. Stay with us if you can.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
If you can't, grab the podcast Armstrong and Getty on
demand Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 9 (17:15):
These are not doctors being forced to provide this medication.
These are doctors who are wanting to treat their patients
in the best way that they know how, based on
the best available evidence to us. And these are young
people who may have known since they were two years
old exactly who they are, who suffered for six seven
years before they had any relief. And what's happening here.
It's not the kids who are consenting to this treatment,
(17:36):
it's the parents who are consenting to the treatment. And
as a parent, I would say, when our children are suffering,
we are suffering. And these are parents who love their children,
who are listening to the advice of their doctors, of
the mainstream medical community, and doing what's right for their kids.
In the state of Tennessee has displaced their judgment.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Most of that was irrelevant and the rest of it
was thick. Yeah, As I often say, people don't offer
crappy arguments because they're keeping their good ones safe for later.
It's because that's all they've got. That is one of
the lawyers, a mustached young woman who presents as a man,
(18:15):
Chase Strangio, who was arguing against the Tennessee law that
was before the Supreme Court yesterday.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
It took my fifth hearing of that to catch on
to the fact that she changes her argument in the
middle of it. Because at the beginning, it's the kids
know at age two that they're a different gender and
live in, you know, horrible circumstances for many years before
they get the care that they need. The relief. She said,
(18:45):
first of all, why would you get relief? Where were
the even if I believe this is happening to a
particular kid, where would the relief come from. Now you've
had yours lopped off.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Had powerful chemicals, hormones, chemically castrated.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
As it were, why would that give you?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Read the Tennessee law, because now you get to be
a girl, and you look like a girl, but anyway,
somewhat like a girl.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Anyway.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
She's making the argument the kids know blah blah blah
blah blah, and then she says, the parents are making
the decision. So it's not like the kids are making
the decision. You just said, the kids are the ones
that know. So the parents are listening to the kids, Well,
in effect they've made the decision.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Then.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Yeah, there are so many tangents we could run down
on this case, but to stick to the main part
of it, the plaintiffs are alleging that the state of
Tennessee and by extension, the twenty five other states that
have returned to sanity, who have said, no, you can't
conduct these unsubstantiatable, experimental, unsupported by science treatments of confused
(19:57):
adolescens anymore. It's well, you know, the headline Naxios was
Supreme Court seems likely to uphold band on gender affirming care,
and Riley Gaines tweeted, Supreme Court seems unlikely to uphold
band on unregulated or seems likely to uphold ban on
unregulated child abuse.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
They're fixed it for you.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Ideological extremists conducting cruel experiments on children.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
That's what's happening.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
But anyway, the plaintiffs are saying that the Fourteenth Amendments
event slow down Joe. The fourteenth Amendment, which demands equal
treatment under the law, which was based entirely on race,
also applies to this question because it's about sex, and
(20:42):
as in race, where there's what's called strict scrutiny of
any discrimination on race, because racial animis is primarily irrational,
and so if a law differentiates between say, black people
and Mexican people, or black people and white people, you
got to have a really, really good reason you can
(21:03):
prove is true. The case against Tennessee rests on the
idea that there's.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
No rational difference between men and women. That's not a
real thing.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
It's a social construct, which is an idea of philosophy
that would have been laughed out of every court on
Earth up till about ten minutes ago, and ten minutes
from now it'll be laughed out of every court on
earth again. But during this bizarrow moment of radical gender
(21:34):
theory having its day, and these poor little kids, these
poor little confused kids anyway, so they're saying, no, there's
no real difference between men and women. So we should
have the same strict scrutiny clause applied to If a
little boy can get testosterone because he's got some testicular problem,
for instance, well then an adolescent girl who thinks she's
a dude should be able.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
To get it too.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Otherwise, it's sex discrimination and that goes against the fourteenth Amendment.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
It's a loader crap.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Yeah, I definitely want to hear my favorite clip from yesterday.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
All right, Jack, well, we'll do that for you. Why
not Colin taking your request at the Supreme Court?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Hitline?
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Uh, this is Oh, this is Matthew Price, who's one
of the lawyers for sanity joining with Sonya Soto Mayor
who has lost her flippant mind forty three.
Speaker 10 (22:22):
Michael cannot eliminate the risk of detransitioners. So it becomes
a pure exercise of weighing benefits versus risk, and the
question of how many miners have to have their bodies
irreparably harmed for unproven benefits is one of is best left.
Speaker 11 (22:40):
I'm sorry, Counselor. Every medical treatment has a risk, even
taking asprin. There is always going to be a percentage
of the population under any medical treatment that's going to
suffer a harm. So the question in my mind is
(23:00):
not do policymakers decide whether one person's life is more
valuable than the millions of others who get relief from
this treatment. The question is can you stop one sex
from the other?
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Yeah, the idea that even asprin has risks. What are
you talking about, you kook?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
The what you just.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I
have ever heard. Yes, everyone in this room is now
dumber for having.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Listened to it.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
That's Chief Just May God have mercy on your soul, that's.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
Chief Justice John Roberts responding to myor's colleague, which is
a historical.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I mean, make mercy on your soul.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
It's not, by the way, it's from.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
What movies are from.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Uh, that's Adam Sandler. He's in school water Boy.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
What of your Adams Zandler movies?
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Anyway back, I would quibble on millions of people who've
gotten rel oh from these treatments.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Yeah, you sniffed it out. That's one of the key
phrases in there. And God blessed Samuel Alito, who lit
into the lawyers, and well, let's play part of forty five.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Michael will cut it off because it gets boring.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
But on page one ninety five of cast report, it
says there is no evidence that gender affirmative treatments reduce suicide.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Okay, and there's more of that is referring to the
lady man lawyer answers that, but badly stop it. Michael
and then Cavanaugh say it is law in six.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
If it's evolving like that and changing, and England's pulling
back and Sweden's pulling back, it strikes me, as you know,
pretty heavy yellow light, if not red light, for this
court to come in the nine of Us and just
constitutionalize the whole area when the the world, or at
least the people who have the countries that have been
(25:02):
at the forefront of this, are him pumping the brakes
on this kind of treatment because of concerns about the rest.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
What he's saying is, you want us to impose a
constitutional ban on banning these procedures based on the Fourteenth
Amendment when the whole world is going in the other direction.
Even if you've got an argument that seems crazy, and
it does. But Alito absolutely tore into the Solicitor General
Elizabeth Preligar, who is arguing in favor of the Biden
(25:33):
or for the Biden administration, in favor of.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
These cruel experiments on confused children.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
He tore into the idea that it often results or
always results in better outcomes, or even close to it
Alito quoted Preligar's petition of the Court claiming overwhelming evidence
supports the notion that puberty blockers and hormone treatments improve
the well being of adolescence confused about their sex. The
Solicitor General statement parents common left wing advocate talking points
(26:00):
about this sort of thing. To counter prolig are, Alito
cited extensive research from European countries showing otherwise, including a
study from a Swedish medical board that concluded the risks
of transgender treatment outweigh purported benefits. Also, he also referred
to the United Kingdom's cast Review which you heard there,
which found little evidence to further the viewpoint that the
(26:21):
benefits of transgender treatment are greater than the risks. So
what you're talking about is an unscientifically unsupportable experimental treatment
on children that the rest of the world is running
from as fast as they can.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
And Tennessee has said no, no, this is not good.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Our legislature, elected by the people says no, you can't
do these experiments on kids anymore. And the Biden administration,
these activist groups want the Constitution to stand in the
way of protecting the children. May God have mercy on
their souls.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
So the great club, the threat that the trans community has,
or transactivists rather, has been the whole suicide thing. You
want your kid to commit suicide, you want to have
a dead son, Well, then don't give them the gender
firming a care that they need.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
They actually say that to terrify parents sitting there in
the office.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
And it's based on a study.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
And I remember we looked into this a couple of
years ago, but I relooked it up again. It's a
study is the history of twenty seven self selected trans
people that had more problems, quite possibly than the average
trans person as they were picked for this. People taking
(27:38):
apart this study said participants were not randomly selected. This
will mean that trans people who have had experienced the
most difficulties in life may be more likely to be
suicidal than the average person out there. The risk chartificially
increasing the percentage of the participants with the suicide history.
We don't know when these suicide attempts occurred among these
thirteen out of twenty seven people. I mean, that's a
(28:01):
very small sample size anyway, sure, but other data from
the study shows it to sorry. Some are all may
have occurred after social and or medical transition and may
not reflect the true suicide risk if trans children are
not supported in transition, so they don't even know if
the suicide attempt was before they got the gender of
(28:21):
froming care, or during or after.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
In other words, this study lends zero wisdom to the discussion.
It's useless. Well, it's it's the opposite of useful. It's
actually damaging the discussion.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
We're also not told if these thirteen young trans people
who considered suicide to con center themselves gay or straight. Other
data from studies show that people who identify as lesbian, gay,
or bisexual are almost twice as likely to have attempted
suicide than people.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
Who are straight.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
So just in general, it's higher for people in the
for whatever reason, in the gay community.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah, you cannot cite this study for anything. It's not
even a study. It's it's it's uh, you would you
would get a d in middle school science for this
so called study. It's it's utterly, utterly fraudulent.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Ay, they what a horrible thing to do.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
I mean, this is not just your line about climate
change or something like that. Oh my god, to to
to sit parents down and say your kid is gonna
kill themselves unless you have them undergo these amazing treatments.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
To that point, several D transitioners were actually there at
the court yesterday and have been doing interviews, raising their
voices to describe how they are rushed into permanently scarring
transgender operations when they were mentally distressed teenagers. Some D
transitioners of file lawsuits alleging medical practitioners practitioners wrongfully push
them to undergo treatments with lasting consequences such as infertility
(29:54):
and sexual dysfunction, without any addressing their mental health situation.
Also worth mentioning Missouri gender clinic whistleblower Jamie Reid came
forward with allegations last year that her facility in Saint
Louis was pushing severely disturbed miners into life altering treatment
with little interest in alternative options. The New York Times
(30:15):
later substantiated reads allegations, which played a major part in
Red state legislation to prevent miners from receiving transgender medical operations.
And the leading medical organization pushing for the transgender treatments
is the World Professional Association for Transgender Health w PATH,
a group that internally observed the experimental nature of transgender
(30:36):
operations and patient's lack of awareness for their consequences in
their own paperwork that's been seen and discovered.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
How much of the how much of the progress using
my finger quotes that the the transitioning children's world has
made was due to these suicide threats? I think a
lot of it too. It's been significant, and the mainstream
(31:06):
media does such a horrible job on this. I mean,
it's one thing that I lost straws plastic straws in
my town because a nine year old baked up stone
statistics about plastic straws and turtles. But the mainstream media
ran with that and printed it like it was a
study done by Johns Hopkins over decades and did the
same thing with something much more important. With this, this
(31:28):
is a tiny, sketchy, one time all kinds of problems
with its study, but it drove this whole conversation over
the last half dozen years. There should be hundreds of
people heading for jail on these cruel experiments on children.
It's shocking that the ideology, the radical gender theory ideology,
is so infiltrating our universities and some state houses that
(31:51):
we permitted this to happen at all. It's unthinkable, and
Europe is ahead of us and figuring out that this
was unthinkable. We'll finish strong next. I'm not sure there's
any value in congressional hearings whatsoever. Maybe if they weren't
on TV, if they were behind closed doors, which obviously
has its problems because there's only so much grand standing.
(32:11):
But uh, you got the House, particularly Republicans, wanting to
grill the Secret Service on how Donald Trump almost got assassinated.
Dang good questions. Still lots of things need to be answered.
I guess it broke down a little bit. Let's hear it, special.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Agent in charge of the detail? Were you the special
agent charge of the detail that day?
Speaker 12 (32:30):
Actually, let me address this. Could you please staff leave
the Oh no, leave that one up with the circle
around me.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Thank you.
Speaker 12 (32:36):
So, Actually, congressman, what you're not seeing is the sack
of the detail off out of the pictures view. And
that is the day where we remember the more than
three thousand people that have died On nine to eleven.
I actually responded to ground zero. I was there going
through the ashes of the World Trade Center. I was
(32:57):
there at Fresh Kills. I'm not asking you that conuer
and the same were you ark show respect for a
secret services hot die?
Speaker 2 (33:07):
I don't know know that you're trying to be do.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
That invoke nine eleven.
Speaker 12 (33:10):
For political purposes not I'm in fucking sir.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
To ask him least.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
And don't care only me.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I like the member of Congress, and I'm asking you
a serious question, and you were.
Speaker 12 (33:25):
I am a public servant who has served this nation,
and you won't tie questions on our day, on our
country's darkness.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Hmm.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
I'd need to hear what led up to it, because
the congress person obviously brought up nine to eleven first,
which when when the Secret Service guy started yelling about it, thought,
what do you doing trying to lean on that? Oh,
but the congress person brought it up first in some context?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Need some context.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
I would need to hear that.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Thought, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
They were pretty hot bear though. Here's your host for
final thoughts, Joe.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Getty's get a final thought from everybody on the crew
to wrap things up to the day. First of all,
our technical director, Michael, Go ahead, Michael, what's on your mind?
I'd like to see more of that in Congress, more
yelling and screaming and maybe an occasional office fight. Yeah, yeah, right,
Katie Greener esteemed to news woman as a final thought, Katie,
I just want to say how grateful I am to
(34:19):
have a job where linees like, why do your bowels
have an English accent?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
A drop? I forgot that because they're sophisticated. Jack, Do
you have a final thought for us?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
You know what?
Speaker 6 (34:31):
I think I've come to some calm, happy place where
I'm just accepting that our politics are really bad and
probably not going to get better. We're never going to
attack the deficit. America is going to be in decline
for the rest of my life, in my kids'.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
Lives, and it's just what it is, and I can
do about it. I'll fight an inch my inch, but
I'm just going to accept it.
Speaker 10 (34:52):
You know.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
My final thought was going to have to do with
the whole gender betting madness and the children who, the
poor confused adolescents who and Austin his stick off and
poor victims of this ideology. That stuff we can change,
and I would encourage you to join us in the
fight to change it. The radical ideologies, and I've got
lots of evidence that are just absolutely Our schools are
(35:15):
soaking in it. We feel like we're making progress, but man,
education is a cesspool of it. That fight is still
going on, and to the extent that we can win it,
we're gonna help a hell a lot of people.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Yeah, that's why I want to continue fighting it inch
by inch, because for an individual person, it's kind of
like the crabs on the beach story.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
You help that one.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
Yeah, Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
It's usually starfish, but you have crabs and that's shine.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Don't say that.
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Speaker 5 (35:52):
Henson's going to turn that into a drop. God bless her.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I'm strong and getcha. This is a message for the
people of America.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
I've spent every day I call say that this is
the last joy.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Anyone else humping the meltdown, I got nothing for you
on that.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
All of a sudden, your bowels say, well, good morning, haul,
I'm feeling excellent about the day, and there's something I
would like to accomplish.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Now go poop in a bucket, you beasts.
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I'm slightly amazed by the general attitude of all of
you
Speaker 2 (36:22):
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