September 17, 2025 • 36 mins
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- David Drucker talks to Jack Armstrong!
- Golfer with one arm & one leg!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Arm Strong and Getty, and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
This is certainly about the tragic.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Death assassination political assassination of Charlie Kirk, but it is
also much bigger than an attack on an individual. It
is an attack on all of us. It is an
attack on the American experiment.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
It is an.
Speaker 6 (00:47):
It's Governor Cox from the other day after the Charlie
Kirk assassination of Utah, and he got a lot of
play and a lot of attention across the country, and
a lot of people thought he sounded like a rock star.
And then it came across one of our favorite pundits
who thought, and that ain't going to work. So we
thought we would talk to that pundit, favorite friend of
(01:08):
the show, David Drucker. David Druncker is with The Dispatch,
a senior writer, author of In Trump's Shadow, The Battle
for twenty twenty four, in the Future of the GOP.
David Drucker, Welcome back to the Armstrong You Getty Show.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, good to be back.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
How do you like the Dispatch. By the way, I'm
one of the founding joiners. I paid the big check
right off the bat, so I could be a lifetime member.
That's how much I like the Dispatch. But how do
you like working that.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
We appreciate it. I think we're building something really great here.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
They give me the freedom, They give me the freedom
to report news, to report good stories. They they invest
in campaign travel, and I just can't say enough about
what I think we're building here. But also the sort
of trust they give me to pursue really good stuff,
and the fact that we just don't do clifbait.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Nothing that we think is clifbait.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
Right, Yeah, I know, I know, Stephen Jonah. One other
things is, and I see this every time there's a big,
giant breaking story like Charlie Kirk's assassination. You don't see
a bunch of comments immediately out of people with the Dispatch.
They wait until, you know, facts come out and things
settle down a little bit before you start shooting your
mouths off or tweeting your mouths off.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, it's a philosophy with us, and sometimes we've had
to move quicker. After the attempted assassination, of Donald Trump,
the president at that time of presidential candidate.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
In Butler, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
We moved very quickly to at least post the news
and probably moved quicker with our follow up coverage the
next day. But in general, we like to make sure
we know what we're talking about, or that we don't
sort of report anything in the seat of the moment
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that then just turns out to be all wrong in
terms of the context. Context is a very big deal
with us.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
So I have a pretty healthy dose of bipartisan discussed
with politics all the way around, and you know, just
the tone of things for quite a while now, and
be nice if we can calm that down. And it
kind of fits it with what I saw you saying
the other day. I don't remember where I caught you,
but you were a little not so fast on Governor
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Cox of Utah, even though I liked what he had
to say. You don't think his tone is gonna work
in our current politics?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
No, I don't think I meant that. I think what
I was probably, of course, like you, I've been sort
of providing so much analysis that I don't totally remember
everything I said. But I think what I think the
discussion you're probably referring to.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Was a question of whether or not Governor.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Box's approach to politics can can travel be on Utah,
And I think I was trying to make the particular
point that one of the reasons you can have a
Governor Cox who is a Republican in Utah is because
the incentive structure that he gets from Utah Republican voters
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is different than Republican voters in other states.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
So this, I love this, explain that to us.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
So and I'm not I'm not saying necessarily every single
Republican leaning state would reject Governor Cox in a Republican primary,
But if you're looking for reasons why, For instance, in
twenty eighteen, Mitt Romney was able to win a Republican
primary being exactly who He was critical of Trump at
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times enough that people noticed, so it was a regular thing,
but was still able to be the overwhelming favorite in
the Republican primary. The reason Governor Cox has been able
to succeed in Republican politics in Utah despite being critical
at times enough that everybody notices of President Trump because
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Republican voters in Utah, although they're although they are supportive
of Trump, and there is a strong you know, like
sort of Maga faction or populist or just throw Trump
faction of Republicans in Utah. The broad Republican electorate in
Utah is basically a very very Republican state. By the numbers.
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They you know, look at politics and a sort of
Reagan era with a Reagan era sense of of rules
and decency and decorum. You know, they look at even
the issue of illegal immigration, they look at a little
bit differently and that they want a secure border, but
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you know, they believe in more immigration, and they believe
that immigrants, even illegal immigrants, should be you know, treated
not necessarily as criminals unless they are criminals. And so
you can be critical of Donald Trump in Utah and
win a Republican primary. Now, I don't think that you
can be an opponent of Donald Trump and win a
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Republican primary in Utah.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
They still would prefer.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Trump as president because he's a Republican and more likely
to push conservative policies and support conservative values. But they
will brook criticism and they will see that as a
sign of leadership. And yes, there are Republicans in Utah
that will run against that or speak out against that
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as being insufficiently conservative and too critical of Trump when
we should be critical of the Democrats instead. They will say,
but Utah is just a different sort of place, and
it gives Governor Talk, you know. And I'm not taking
away from his willingness to speak out in this way,
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But what I am saying is he does not have
to now look over his shoulder in a primary for
future office should he choose to run for another office
after his time as governor is up, and he does
not have to worry about a complete revolt of the
Republican Party in Utah because of the things that he
has said.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
Do you think he has any interest in running for president,
like trying to beat up JD.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Vance for the nomination.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well, I don't know, because I haven't asked him, and
I never put it past the idea that somebody that
rises to the level of governor or senator, you know,
let alone dogcatcher, doesn't have it in their hand that they.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Should be president.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I don't know that a Republican like Governor Talks can
win a Republican primary against a combative populist like JD.
Vance or you know, pick somebody else. Because I think
Republicans broadly, and particularly when you're looking in a lot
of these early.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
States, but even beyond that, have.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Would prefer somebody that they is left conciliatory and appears
to be more of a fighter. One of the yeah,
I mean, I mean think one of the reasons that
a lot of Republican voters may at times look past
Donald Trump's provocative language and behavior, even though they don't
agree with it, is because they say to him, says, well,
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he's a fighter. He's fighting for us. He is not
allowing the Democrats to do the sort of unfair things
that we believe for years they were doing, and that
the more sort of rules following the Korum following statesman
like Republicans were allowing them to do. This idea of
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traditional conservatism where we're gonna again, I mean, Democrats will
look at this differently, right, but like if you're an
old school conservative of the Reagan mold, Reagan was plenty
of fighter.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I mean, let's not forget that.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
But this idea that listen, there are just rules we
don't break, and even if they break them, we're going
to argue that they shouldn't have broken the rules.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
But we're not going to do what they do.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It's just out of fashion right now, Republicans. If you
look at how Republicans conduct themselves broadly speaking, meaning lawmakers
and the president, they really have adopted many of the
tactics of the left and the Democratic Party, at least
those that the Democratic Party and the left practiced, you
(09:25):
know in my lifetime.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
In the nineteen eighties and the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And the early offs that Republicans used to complain about.
And now what they've what they've done, is adopt those tactics.
And you know, whether it's boycott's or cancel culture or
stretching the bounds of executive authority by the president. I mean,
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in all these ways, and so.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
And the people.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
I can just hear people texting or saying to their
radio right now, yes and now, and we control all
three brands. So is the government from doing that? So
it's been successful.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, no, I think so. And look I think for
you know, Republicans look at it this way too. I
mean to be and I didn't I don't think my
other comments were unfair, but you know, the old thing,
to be fair, they watched Bill Clinton have an affair
in the Oval office and lie about it. Democrats didn't
have any problems with that. They never complained about it.
They never said Bill Clinton should resign, They never said
it was wrong. They basically were tribal. Well, Bill Clinton's
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our guy. He's doing a good job. Voters seem to
like the job he's doing. Look what we've won because
of Bill Clinton, and so that's okay. And and they,
you know, from from a conservative point of view, they've
seen all sorts of things like that. And so I'm
not saying the right answer is therefore to act like them.
(10:48):
But if you talk to Republicans, they're going to say,
why are you on our case? Democrats have been doing
this for years. The bra or analytical point I was
making was we're you know, Republicans in a sense that, well,
if you can't beat him, join a right, that's what
they did.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Right, How do we whether it's political violence? Though just
you know x's and o's tactics in politics, how do
we stop the race to the bottom? Though each side
thinks the other side fights dirtier than them, so we
need to adopt their tactics.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Both sides think that. I mean, so where do you
end up?
Speaker 6 (11:21):
I mean, you don't go anywhere good with that attitude.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
It's the biggest consistency in my twenty plus years of
covering politics, both Republican operatives and Democratic operatives, never mind
elected officials, consistently tell me the other side, the other
side plays dirtier than us. I wish we played as
dirty as them, then we would win as much as
they did.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
That's incredible.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
The way the only way that any of this stops
is somebody or both sides stop keeping score and just stop.
You know, my this is I don't normally do personal
anecdotes here, but I feel like it's like the best
analogy I have. Some years back, four years ago or whatever,
we were celebrating my in law's fiftieth wedding anniversary, and anyway,
(12:07):
the rabbi who married my wife and I is a
a a relative A couple of times removed something like that,
Jimmy Kessler, who passed away since, but Rabbi Kessler was
there and we were, you know, asking him because he
had been married fifty plus years, and I think my
wife or I asked him like, how do you do it?
How do you know we've been married at this point
(12:28):
maybe ten years, nine years? I don't know, like, how
how did you get to fifty plus years? And he
just looked at Fuss and he said, you have to
sometimes you have to know when to punt. And that
sticks with me because you know, that's.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
What marriage advice right there.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
If nobody tells anything else from this, that is a
good marriage advice.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah. But I mean, if you look at the United
States of America like an extended big family, we never punt.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Well, either side ever punts. You go for it on
fourth down always.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, I mean, if that's not to say that what
the assassination Charlie Kirk wasn't a distinct act with this
with the suspect doing it for distinct political reasons. But
when I'm asked the question where does this end, well,
it either ends very badly or at some point people
(13:17):
stop keeping score and say stop. Yeah, okay, Well I'm.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Afraid we're out of time. David.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
I don't know if I like our chances at least
in the short term on that. But appreciate your talk today,
David Drucker of The Dispatch, Thanks for coming on, David.
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She's not entering an ass kicking contest? Is it?
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Because the legend has it? That's a bad idea it's
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good for her, I just yeah, yeah, obviously, good for her.
She's overcoming something I can't even imagine. But man, I
think I just decide my golfing days are behind me.
Speaker 8 (17:12):
Man, she was fifteen years old when this, when she
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Speaker 3 (17:16):
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Speaker 3 (17:30):
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I'll bet she could beat them. Oh, I'm sure of it. Yeah,
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He's going to play golf with both legs and both
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Uh, because he's got him, Because he's got him.
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Speaker 6 (18:21):
Before we get to our special guest, Joe Getty, who
will reveal why he's not here today and all that
sort of stuff, I need to tell the story, either
now or later about this Ukrainian woman that has fallen
in love.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
With me and keeps emailing me. Okay, and yeah, it's
quite the story.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
That can't be a scam, right, No, it's obviously a scam,
but it's pretty entertaining. And mostly what I'm getting out
of it is do people actually fall for this? And
if they do, how incredibly sad is that? I'll have
to read you some of the emails. I mean, they're
so over the top. Anyway, I'll get to that later. Currently, though,
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Speaker 4 (19:03):
During these ugly times. I suggest you let love bloom
write that gal back.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Oh, I responded initially to keep it going.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
So, yeah, I don't know how she got she I'm
sure there's no she involved. If there's even a human involved,
it might just be a bot. But you know it's
some scamsters.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
But there was nothing.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
So somehow they they got my email and knew I
was a male. So this is a person portraying themselves
when they include pictures, and she's like twenty years old.
Appears to me you're a little young for me, this
hot Ukrainian woman who has fallen in love with me
just from my picture. Somebody showed me your picture and
I just couldn't stop thinking about you, and so I
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thought I would email you and think they see if
there's a chance we could be together or something, would
you please correspond with me? And and I and uh,
And there were no links so you know, to click
on or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
So I thought, I.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Don't think I can do myself any harm here, so
I just made yeah, sure, go for it. I emailed back,
and and then since then I just get these regular
emails about it, how in love she is with me
and everything like that. It's been going on for quite
a while. Today's was though, she is so sad that
she has not received my letter. I've been waiting by
the mailbox every single day, and now I'm sad because
I came to the internet cafe and I haven't found
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your answer in my email or a letter in my mailbox.
Maybe you were busy and did not have the time
to answer. I was an art gallery today and I
saw a painting of a man and a woman holding hands,
and I thought of you and me and how we
could spend the rest of our lives holding hands like this.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Wow, that's good. Stop.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
But I thought, dude, are there people that fall for this?
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Because I assume the next step is either a hyper
link that you know, hacks into my computer or some
sort of ask for money.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Right. I'm impressed by the sophistication of it, though, I mean,
how long ago was it that it was just I
am being a Nigerian prince for you? I have your
lockery winnings.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Yeah, I wonder what the ask is going to be though,
probably just a link, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Well, money, Well, he's gonna have you wire her money
because you know she needs it to whatever.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
Her mother has cancer to conduct to come to the
United States and be with me. Yeah that too, Yeah
yeah maybe movie. Maybe soon you and me will be
walking in a beautiful park, holding each other's hands and talking, dreaming.
Life is so short and we should value every moment
of it. I'm sending you my air kiss and waiting
for your answer with impatience.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Wow. Wow, it's good writing.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Anyway, she's really into me, You gotta you can blame her.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yes, love happens in weird ways.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
It's unpredictable. Uh so, why are you not here today?
I couldn't help but notice when I walked into the
studio you were not here.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yeah, well excuse me. Greetings from a scenic, foggy, chili
pebble Beach, California.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Wemus golf courses in the world.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yes, yes, As a matter of fact, I'm down here
for an annual trip with a bunch of good old
buddies to play all for three days, and the skullduggery
has already begun. We were out last night having a
nice meal and a few drinks, and just when I
was aware that I'd had plenty, another drink mysteriously appeared
in front of me by my arch nemesis Jim, who
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is clearly trying to cripple me and reduce my capabilities
on a golf course by successfully making me significantly hungover
this morning.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I hate to hear that you're overserved.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Well, but what's the gentleman to do. A fine, perfectly
good drink appears in front of them. What am I
going to do? Pour it out or pretend to sip
at it? No, certainly not. I'm going to draw down
it like kool aid and regret it in the morning.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
So you're playing pebble beach golf course, No, sir, No,
you're playing a dipple golf course.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah. Yeah, we're playing at the Monterey Peninsula Country.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Club and that's a private one.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yes it is, yes, hard. You will not be admitted
if you appear at the gate.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
What would it cost to become a there?
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Oh, let's not throw around. You know that's a rude.
What monetary figures?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
What have you heard?
Speaker 4 (23:09):
It's it's significant a lot. It is six figures for
sure to join, Yes, sir, that's the cover charge. Wow?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
And you know somebody who gets you on there is
that what happens.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah, yeah, old old friend. Yeah, I've been coming down
here for years. It's it is spectacular. I mean it sits.
There are two courses. They sit right between Pebble Beach
and uh, Spanish Bay for folks who know the area.
Does it right on the ocean?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Does it make Pebble Beach look like a putt putt course?
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Like a muni? Yeah, like an eight dollars muni. Now
you know, Pebble Beach has some magnificent holes and and
if you've ever played it, a number that are fine.
Mpcc is is pretty much spectacular stem to stern. But
I'm a lucky fella.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
And uh and have you ever have you? Have you
played it well when you've played it in the past?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Zis Yeah, up and down. You get distracted by the scenery. Honestly,
it's just so pretty. But who knows. The golf is
a stupid game, a waste of time and money and
a good walk spoiled as Twain. As Twain put it,
So we'll see what if you get it. I was
excited about this morning to read in the journal that
cocaine is making a big company.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, we did all those stats.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Isn't that funny the day after we had that conversation about, Wow,
young people are doing hard drugs again, blah blah blah.
It's the surest and cheapest it's been in forever.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Right, And I love that the use on the West
Coast has increased like one hundred and fifty four percent
or something like that, and on the East coast not
so much. But La, I'm looking at you really with
the cocaine again. So is that what you're been through?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
This?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Is that what you remember? The suburban dads and moms
who ruin their family finances and the crack heads on
the strip. Do you know remember that? Well? The young
people don't.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
So is that where you're doing today? To get back
in the game. You're a little hungover, a little tired,
you get ready for the first tea.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
A couple of lines, yeah, yeah. A lot of golf
courses they have teas out for you, or you know,
ballmark repaired tools or whatever. Yeah, the better courses have
lines of blow if you, you know, need a little
pick me up, fantastic. I've said it a million times.
And if there are any young people listening, if you
want a drug that turns you into an a hole,
(25:28):
pardon me, do a little cocaine turns you into complete
raving jackass of a person.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
What's the appeal?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Then it makes you feel like you're the king of
the world. That's what they tell me, the druggies. Yeah,
it's just you feel like the master of the universe,
which and full of energy, and you want to chat
with people and pretend to listen to them, then chat more.
And it's just so.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
But feeling like the king of the world would make
you an a whole because lots of people who think
they're the king of the world or a holes.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Well, yeah, and people who are doing cocaine just prattle
on and on about nothing, and it makes you selfish
and you just want more cocaine. And it's yeah, it's
not good. I've seen the dynamic play out many times
and it does not turn you into a good person.
But what time is it speaking to young people if
I might indulge myself For Armstrong and Getty ogs who've
(26:24):
been listening since the beginning, you may recall me calling
in from the hospital announcing the birth of kidnumber three,
the fabulous Delany May. That was twenty six years ago today. Wow,
make us all feel.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Old Wow, I don't know if that was helpful.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Happy birthday, little d although she is in class law
school and not listening to this drivel.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Have you seen the one legged girl hitting the golf balls,
making the rounds today?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
It's on all the people again.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, very good.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
She's the poor girl who got her arm and leg
eaten off by a shark last year. Oh yeah, and
there's she's got a golf thing going now and she's
on the you know, speaking circuit to you know, help
you overcome your challenges. I mean, if you're playing golf
with one arm on one leg, you're overcoming challenges.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
There's no doubt.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
God, I can't imagine she has a prosthetic. I imagine. I
initially just literally pictured somebody playing golf on one leg,
and you would have to have spectacular balance.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Well she she yeah, that's what she does. She she
hits the ball and then she bounces a lot to
stay up.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Really yeah, oh I've got to see that. God, that's
you know, honestly, you know, the whole Speaker's circuit overcoming
your difficulties thing. I mean, I'm old and bitter, so
it's it's almost half a cliche. But imagine the courage
and patience. Oh my god, it takes it. Really, it
actually is inspiring.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
So got a question for you. I want to ask
your opinion on this before you have to go, okay,
nurse your hangover. I don't know if you've heard this
or not. So you remember after Charlie Kirk was shot,
they immediately had an old guy on the ground and
thought he was the shooter, and then he got cleared. Well,
(28:10):
the story that is out now that old guy yelled
it's me.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
I did it.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
I shot him immediately after the shooting to distract, he says,
his own words, to distract the police from the actual shooter.
Is it even conceivable that a seventy one year old
man could come up with that plan in a nanosecond
like that?
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I just I find that very difficult to believe.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Well, yeah, that's that's an interesting point slash question.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
This is going to drive conspiracies forever, obviously, because it's
pretty hard to swallow that. I know what I'll do?
You think it like two seconds?
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Well, he says it was to help the killer escape, right,
I suppose you could cook that up quickly. I mean,
I've known you never crossed my mind. Well, you're not nuts.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I've known a couple of people in my life who
are very very bright and very very cuckoo, and I
wonder if this is just that the guy is just that.
So you think, do you actually think they were in
cahoots or just that it's hard to believe they're not.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
It's pretty damned hard to believe they're not.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I took this story at
face value, but I agree it's odd. You know, It's
bothered me because, of course a bunch of old guys
that are sitting around watching Fox News getting angry at
the world. Is that the video is coming in from
around the country of in particular college campuses, where it's
not like two or three people acting happy, it's a dozen.
(29:45):
It's twenty dancing around and mocking Charlie Kirk and laughing.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
That's weird.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yeah, yeah, And the demographic composition of those people is
interesting too, But it's I think that sort of ugly
nihilism is more common than we imagined. Well, what's the
demographic Well, obviously it's a lot of young people. There
were several predominantly black crowds that were just having a
(30:18):
huge laugh about it, which is not to suggest that
black people in particular are callous to this sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
But I don't remember him having a racial angle to
any of his stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I mean, no, he didn't. I just think he is
seen as part of the white establishment, the you know,
the patriarchy, the you.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Know the bet Wow, that's disturbing.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
It, it really is. I don't think. The other hand,
it be hard.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
To name a person that I would get gleeful about
finding out they got shot in the neck and they're
a parent of young children. I can't even come up
with anybody hardly.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
No, I mean, even the worst criminal I'd much for
further dealt with through the judicial system. But yeah, yeah,
it's it's truly sick and nihilistic and kind of disturbing.
On the other hand, I'm sure you've heard that there
have been thousands, thousands of applications to form new Turning
Point USA chapters across campuses all all across America, high
(31:19):
schools and colleges, which, you know, God willing will be
the legacy of poor Charlie Kirk that his message got
through and grew and grew even after he was gone.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
Yeah, and I hope they can keep it on the rails,
because you know, there's a there's a fair amount of
blood lust out there where David Drucker and I were
just talking about that. I mean, it's just it's just
so easy to go down the road of the tip
for tat.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
They did this, we'll do that back and forth, right.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
You know there is something easy about anger?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Anybody who's ever been angry, he knows it's a hell
of a lot easier to stay angry than to calm
down and work through a problem, starting with me.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
So yeah, anyway, a scale of one to ten, how
hungover are you?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Two?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Oh two? Well that's yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
I went to bed immediately, sucked down a bunch of water,
and uh, I'm fine, I'm fine.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
What does a ten look like in your mind?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Oh? Good lord, it's well, it's been a very long time.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Are you crawling out of bed with a ten?
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Do you remember that night in San Francisco we were
out to like three am, which on the air at
six that was a ten?
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Okay, you are knee walking drunk.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
I was. I should have been hospitalized, Michael. I regret it.
And kids, remember old Uncle Joe's warning about cocaine over
indulgence in spirits will do the same thing. Do you
stay away. It's a nice coco.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
You're not a drinker, Michael. It's not really how drunk
you were, although that plays a role. It's the amount
of sleep, water, and food that you get in between
the next thing you have to do.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
That's really definitely a factor.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Yes, that's Joe Getty, everybody, He'll check in getting tomorrow.
We got to take a break.
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Speaker 4 (33:19):
In a case of insure, but.
Speaker 9 (33:24):
Joe's agent keeps stressing that Joe's a limited time offer.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Time's running out.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
We just don't know when.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Those are age jokes about Joe Biden from Greg Guttfeld.
That's what that is right now. I don't know if
you know this, but Katie, Katie the news Lady Katie Green,
her dad was a judge for a very long time.
He's a retired Superior court judge in Alameda County. That's
where Oakland is, and we're going to talk to him
an hour three a little bit about the situation with
(33:56):
the shooter in Utah and these kind of court cases
and that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
So that'll kick off our three.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
I hope you can get it if you don't get
the podcast, Armstrong and get on demand. I don't know
if you've seen that. A TikTok deal looks like it's
gonna happen. We are going to have a report on
that a little bit later. The confusing part, though, is
I can't always forget nobody on this show uses TikTok.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
You use TikTok though, right, you have it on your phone?
I do, okay, and you like it?
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Well, eh, somewhat.
Speaker 8 (34:24):
The algorithm's all screwed up for me, so it's feeding
me a bunch of you know, like we talked about this,
I think on the One More Thing podcast. For some reason,
they keep getting these muck bangs or people are just
eating an obnoxious amounts of food like slobs.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Well, the algorithm is supposed to be like the best
invented by anybody out there in terms of determining what
you like. Apparently your's got thrown off somehow. But yeah,
But the whole thing with TikTok is the algorithm. It's ingenious,
better than anything youtubes come up with, their Instagrams come
up with, anybody's come up with for keeping you engaged,
figuring out the sort of stuff you're gonna want to
(34:58):
watch and click on, TikTok's really good at that.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Well, so, the big deal with.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
The settlement with China hinges on the algorithm, and CNBC
reported that they will keep more or less the same
algorithm when it's in the hands of American Corporation. But
(35:22):
The Wall Street Journal says, no, no, no, it's got
to be a completely different algorithm. Well, if it's a
completely different algorithm, it's it's like, have you ever this
happens a lot. You eat a historic restaurant and then
on the menu they got information about the restaurant, and
it always says it burned down in eighteen twenty then
was rebuilt, and I always or you know, okay, well,
then it's not the same historic restaurant that Wyatt shot
(35:46):
somebody in or whatever the hell this place is famous for.
It burnt down, you rebuilt it. It's a different place.
It's just in the same spot. It's like TikTok, it's
going to have the same name, but if it has
a new algorithm, it's not TikTok. It's just something else.
So that's the part I don't quite get. But at
least it won't be a Chinese spy app anymore, which
(36:07):
is the thing that Congress. The reason Congress said it's
got to go, and why the Supreme Court voted nine
to oh that yeah, they upheld that law and everything.
So we'll get more on that a little bit later.
I do want to talk about the pot luck I
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Speaker 4 (00:23):
This is certainly about the tragic.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Death assassination political assassination of Charlie Kirk, but it is
also much bigger than an attack on an individual. It
is an attack on all of us. It is an
attack on the American experiment.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
It is an.
Speaker 6 (00:47):
It's Governor Cox from the other day after the Charlie
Kirk assassination of Utah, and he got a lot of
play and a lot of attention across the country, and
a lot of people thought he sounded like a rock star.
And then it came across one of our favorite pundits
who thought, and that ain't going to work. So we
thought we would talk to that pundit, favorite friend of
(01:08):
the show, David Drucker. David Druncker is with The Dispatch,
a senior writer, author of In Trump's Shadow, The Battle
for twenty twenty four, in the Future of the GOP.
David Drucker, Welcome back to the Armstrong You Getty Show.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, good to be back.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
How do you like the Dispatch. By the way, I'm
one of the founding joiners. I paid the big check
right off the bat, so I could be a lifetime member.
That's how much I like the Dispatch. But how do
you like working that.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
We appreciate it. I think we're building something really great here.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
They give me the freedom, They give me the freedom
to report news, to report good stories. They they invest
in campaign travel, and I just can't say enough about
what I think we're building here. But also the sort
of trust they give me to pursue really good stuff,
and the fact that we just don't do clifbait.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Nothing that we think is clifbait.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
Right, Yeah, I know, I know, Stephen Jonah. One other
things is, and I see this every time there's a big,
giant breaking story like Charlie Kirk's assassination. You don't see
a bunch of comments immediately out of people with the Dispatch.
They wait until, you know, facts come out and things
settle down a little bit before you start shooting your
mouths off or tweeting your mouths off.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, it's a philosophy with us, and sometimes we've had
to move quicker. After the attempted assassination, of Donald Trump,
the president at that time of presidential candidate.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
In Butler, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
We moved very quickly to at least post the news
and probably moved quicker with our follow up coverage the
next day. But in general, we like to make sure
we know what we're talking about, or that we don't
sort of report anything in the seat of the moment
(02:51):
that then just turns out to be all wrong in
terms of the context. Context is a very big deal
with us.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
So I have a pretty healthy dose of bipartisan discussed
with politics all the way around, and you know, just
the tone of things for quite a while now, and
be nice if we can calm that down. And it
kind of fits it with what I saw you saying
the other day. I don't remember where I caught you,
but you were a little not so fast on Governor
(03:19):
Cox of Utah, even though I liked what he had
to say. You don't think his tone is gonna work
in our current politics?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
No, I don't think I meant that. I think what
I was probably, of course, like you, I've been sort
of providing so much analysis that I don't totally remember
everything I said. But I think what I think the
discussion you're probably referring to.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Was a question of whether or not Governor.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Box's approach to politics can can travel be on Utah,
And I think I was trying to make the particular
point that one of the reasons you can have a
Governor Cox who is a Republican in Utah is because
the incentive structure that he gets from Utah Republican voters
(04:12):
is different than Republican voters in other states.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
So this, I love this, explain that to us.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
So and I'm not I'm not saying necessarily every single
Republican leaning state would reject Governor Cox in a Republican primary,
But if you're looking for reasons why, For instance, in
twenty eighteen, Mitt Romney was able to win a Republican
primary being exactly who He was critical of Trump at
(04:40):
times enough that people noticed, so it was a regular thing,
but was still able to be the overwhelming favorite in
the Republican primary. The reason Governor Cox has been able
to succeed in Republican politics in Utah despite being critical
at times enough that everybody notices of President Trump because
(05:01):
Republican voters in Utah, although they're although they are supportive
of Trump, and there is a strong you know, like
sort of Maga faction or populist or just throw Trump
faction of Republicans in Utah. The broad Republican electorate in
Utah is basically a very very Republican state. By the numbers.
(05:22):
They you know, look at politics and a sort of
Reagan era with a Reagan era sense of of rules
and decency and decorum. You know, they look at even
the issue of illegal immigration, they look at a little
bit differently and that they want a secure border, but
(05:43):
you know, they believe in more immigration, and they believe
that immigrants, even illegal immigrants, should be you know, treated
not necessarily as criminals unless they are criminals. And so
you can be critical of Donald Trump in Utah and
win a Republican primary. Now, I don't think that you
can be an opponent of Donald Trump and win a
(06:06):
Republican primary in Utah.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
They still would prefer.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Trump as president because he's a Republican and more likely
to push conservative policies and support conservative values. But they
will brook criticism and they will see that as a
sign of leadership. And yes, there are Republicans in Utah
that will run against that or speak out against that
(06:31):
as being insufficiently conservative and too critical of Trump when
we should be critical of the Democrats instead. They will say,
but Utah is just a different sort of place, and
it gives Governor Talk, you know. And I'm not taking
away from his willingness to speak out in this way,
(06:52):
But what I am saying is he does not have
to now look over his shoulder in a primary for
future office should he choose to run for another office
after his time as governor is up, and he does
not have to worry about a complete revolt of the
Republican Party in Utah because of the things that he
has said.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
Do you think he has any interest in running for president,
like trying to beat up JD.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Vance for the nomination.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Well, I don't know, because I haven't asked him, and
I never put it past the idea that somebody that
rises to the level of governor or senator, you know,
let alone dogcatcher, doesn't have it in their hand that they.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Should be president.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I don't know that a Republican like Governor Talks can
win a Republican primary against a combative populist like JD.
Vance or you know, pick somebody else. Because I think
Republicans broadly, and particularly when you're looking in a lot
of these early.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
States, but even beyond that, have.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Would prefer somebody that they is left conciliatory and appears
to be more of a fighter. One of the yeah,
I mean, I mean think one of the reasons that
a lot of Republican voters may at times look past
Donald Trump's provocative language and behavior, even though they don't
agree with it, is because they say to him, says, well,
(08:19):
he's a fighter. He's fighting for us. He is not
allowing the Democrats to do the sort of unfair things
that we believe for years they were doing, and that
the more sort of rules following the Korum following statesman
like Republicans were allowing them to do. This idea of
(08:40):
traditional conservatism where we're gonna again, I mean, Democrats will
look at this differently, right, but like if you're an
old school conservative of the Reagan mold, Reagan was plenty
of fighter.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I mean, let's not forget that.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
But this idea that listen, there are just rules we
don't break, and even if they break them, we're going
to argue that they shouldn't have broken the rules.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
But we're not going to do what they do.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It's just out of fashion right now, Republicans. If you
look at how Republicans conduct themselves broadly speaking, meaning lawmakers
and the president, they really have adopted many of the
tactics of the left and the Democratic Party, at least
those that the Democratic Party and the left practiced, you
(09:25):
know in my lifetime.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
In the nineteen eighties and the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And the early offs that Republicans used to complain about.
And now what they've what they've done, is adopt those tactics.
And you know, whether it's boycott's or cancel culture or
stretching the bounds of executive authority by the president. I mean,
(09:50):
in all these ways, and so.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
And the people.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
I can just hear people texting or saying to their
radio right now, yes and now, and we control all
three brands. So is the government from doing that? So
it's been successful.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, no, I think so. And look I think for
you know, Republicans look at it this way too. I
mean to be and I didn't I don't think my
other comments were unfair, but you know, the old thing,
to be fair, they watched Bill Clinton have an affair
in the Oval office and lie about it. Democrats didn't
have any problems with that. They never complained about it.
They never said Bill Clinton should resign, They never said
it was wrong. They basically were tribal. Well, Bill Clinton's
(10:26):
our guy. He's doing a good job. Voters seem to
like the job he's doing. Look what we've won because
of Bill Clinton, and so that's okay. And and they,
you know, from from a conservative point of view, they've
seen all sorts of things like that. And so I'm
not saying the right answer is therefore to act like them.
(10:48):
But if you talk to Republicans, they're going to say,
why are you on our case? Democrats have been doing
this for years. The bra or analytical point I was
making was we're you know, Republicans in a sense that, well,
if you can't beat him, join a right, that's what
they did.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Right, How do we whether it's political violence? Though just
you know x's and o's tactics in politics, how do
we stop the race to the bottom? Though each side
thinks the other side fights dirtier than them, so we
need to adopt their tactics.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Both sides think that. I mean, so where do you
end up?
Speaker 6 (11:21):
I mean, you don't go anywhere good with that attitude.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
It's the biggest consistency in my twenty plus years of
covering politics, both Republican operatives and Democratic operatives, never mind
elected officials, consistently tell me the other side, the other
side plays dirtier than us. I wish we played as
dirty as them, then we would win as much as
they did.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
That's incredible.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
The way the only way that any of this stops
is somebody or both sides stop keeping score and just stop.
You know, my this is I don't normally do personal
anecdotes here, but I feel like it's like the best
analogy I have. Some years back, four years ago or whatever,
we were celebrating my in law's fiftieth wedding anniversary, and anyway,
(12:07):
the rabbi who married my wife and I is a
a a relative A couple of times removed something like that,
Jimmy Kessler, who passed away since, but Rabbi Kessler was
there and we were, you know, asking him because he
had been married fifty plus years, and I think my
wife or I asked him like, how do you do it?
How do you know we've been married at this point
(12:28):
maybe ten years, nine years? I don't know, like, how
how did you get to fifty plus years? And he
just looked at Fuss and he said, you have to
sometimes you have to know when to punt. And that
sticks with me because you know, that's.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
What marriage advice right there.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
If nobody tells anything else from this, that is a
good marriage advice.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah. But I mean, if you look at the United
States of America like an extended big family, we never punt.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Well, either side ever punts. You go for it on
fourth down always.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, I mean, if that's not to say that what
the assassination Charlie Kirk wasn't a distinct act with this
with the suspect doing it for distinct political reasons. But
when I'm asked the question where does this end, well,
it either ends very badly or at some point people
(13:17):
stop keeping score and say stop. Yeah, okay, Well I'm.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Afraid we're out of time. David.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
I don't know if I like our chances at least
in the short term on that. But appreciate your talk today,
David Drucker of The Dispatch, Thanks for coming on, David.
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It's perfect for all those health conscious people who eat Cheetos.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
And dorita Right, that's a decent point if you're if
you're if you're a person who wants to eat Doritos,
and I eat crap all the time. Everybody who listens
knows that the the fact that there's a dye in
there that one in eight million people could get some
kind of cancer from, is not you know, come on,
you don't worry about that sort of things.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
You're eating freaking doritos. It reminds me.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
We had the conversation the other day Joe and I
about energy bars.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
They call them energy bars, or.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
You know, it's a candy bar with a different colored
wrapper on it, and they not all the time, but
most of the time it's just a danged candy bar.
And they put a like a green wrapper and a
stalk of wheat on there and act like you know,
it's it's not a candy bar.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
They say it's a protein bar. Yeah, and there's twenty
grams of protein and like thirty five.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Grams of sugar yeah, and a whole bunch of fat.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
And it's chocolate and caramel and peanuts and it's just
like any other anymore. But one I grabbed at the
grocery store last night said all natural and artificial flavors. Okay,
I'm sure there are some natural flavors and everything. I
don't think everything is one artificial. That's funny. All natural
(16:22):
and artificial flavor to what? Okay, fantastic. So the one
legged chick playing golf, I keep seeing that up on television.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Wondered with that. Was she's the poor girl we got
her leg bit off by a shark. Yeah, a arm
and leg.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Wow, she's she's hitting a golf ball with one arm
and one leg.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (16:42):
Lulu Gribbon, that's her name, and she's actually she's launching
something called Lulu Strong and it's gonna help, you know,
amputees get into sports.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Here.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
She's not entering an ass kicking contest? Is it?
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Because the legend has it? That's a bad idea it's
very tiring, at least, that's what the legend is. Incredibly exhausting. Well,
good for her, I just yeah, yeah, obviously, good for her.
She's overcoming something I can't even imagine. But man, I
think I just decide my golfing days are behind me.
Speaker 8 (17:12):
Man, she was fifteen years old when this, when she
got attacked by the shark.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Horrible, horrible, amazing that she lived through that.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
But so you sure it's the same person because the
woman I saw up there, I noticed the one leg
because she hits the ball and then she hasked to
hop afterwards, just from the momentum of the swing.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
But she's swinging with one arm too. Yeah, she should.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Challenge all other one legged, one armed people do a
golf match.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I'll bet she could beat them. Oh, I'm sure of it. Yeah,
I think it's the same one.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
Because she's going to be on one of our big
morning talk shows this morning.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
So oh, okay, Cools probably why good for her. We're
going to talk to one Joe Getty coming up in
a little bit.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
He's going to play golf with both legs and both
arms that he has.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Uh, because he's got him, Because he's got him.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
And he's going to call in just a few minutes
and we'll talk about I don't know whatever we're going
to talk about.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Then a couple.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
We got to get to the other explosive part of
the hearing yesterday with cash, but tell the people are
loving to hate and a bunch of other stuff on
the way, so I hope you can stay.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Here Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Before we get to our special guest, Joe Getty, who
will reveal why he's not here today and all that
sort of stuff, I need to tell the story, either
now or later about this Ukrainian woman that has fallen
in love.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
With me and keeps emailing me. Okay, and yeah, it's
quite the story.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
That can't be a scam, right, No, it's obviously a scam,
but it's pretty entertaining. And mostly what I'm getting out
of it is do people actually fall for this? And
if they do, how incredibly sad is that? I'll have
to read you some of the emails. I mean, they're
so over the top. Anyway, I'll get to that later. Currently, though,
we need to welcome the ga half of Armstrong and
(19:01):
Getty to the show, Joe Getty Joe Hey.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
During these ugly times. I suggest you let love bloom
write that gal back.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Oh, I responded initially to keep it going.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
So, yeah, I don't know how she got she I'm
sure there's no she involved. If there's even a human involved,
it might just be a bot. But you know it's
some scamsters.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
But there was nothing.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
So somehow they they got my email and knew I
was a male. So this is a person portraying themselves
when they include pictures, and she's like twenty years old.
Appears to me you're a little young for me, this
hot Ukrainian woman who has fallen in love with me
just from my picture. Somebody showed me your picture and
I just couldn't stop thinking about you, and so I
(19:43):
thought I would email you and think they see if
there's a chance we could be together or something, would
you please correspond with me? And and I and uh,
And there were no links so you know, to click
on or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
So I thought, I.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Don't think I can do myself any harm here, so
I just made yeah, sure, go for it. I emailed back,
and and then since then I just get these regular
emails about it, how in love she is with me
and everything like that. It's been going on for quite
a while. Today's was though, she is so sad that
she has not received my letter. I've been waiting by
the mailbox every single day, and now I'm sad because
I came to the internet cafe and I haven't found
(20:15):
your answer in my email or a letter in my mailbox.
Maybe you were busy and did not have the time
to answer. I was an art gallery today and I
saw a painting of a man and a woman holding hands,
and I thought of you and me and how we
could spend the rest of our lives holding hands like this.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Wow, that's good. Stop.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
But I thought, dude, are there people that fall for this?
Speaker 6 (20:34):
Because I assume the next step is either a hyper
link that you know, hacks into my computer or some
sort of ask for money.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Right. I'm impressed by the sophistication of it, though, I mean,
how long ago was it that it was just I
am being a Nigerian prince for you? I have your
lockery winnings.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Yeah, I wonder what the ask is going to be though,
probably just a link, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Well, money, Well, he's gonna have you wire her money
because you know she needs it to whatever.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
Her mother has cancer to conduct to come to the
United States and be with me. Yeah that too, Yeah
yeah maybe movie. Maybe soon you and me will be
walking in a beautiful park, holding each other's hands and talking, dreaming.
Life is so short and we should value every moment
of it. I'm sending you my air kiss and waiting
for your answer with impatience.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Wow. Wow, it's good writing.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
Anyway, she's really into me, You gotta you can blame her.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yes, love happens in weird ways.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
It's unpredictable. Uh so, why are you not here today?
I couldn't help but notice when I walked into the
studio you were not here.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yeah, well excuse me. Greetings from a scenic, foggy, chili
pebble Beach, California.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Wemus golf courses in the world.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yes, yes, As a matter of fact, I'm down here
for an annual trip with a bunch of good old
buddies to play all for three days, and the skullduggery
has already begun. We were out last night having a
nice meal and a few drinks, and just when I
was aware that I'd had plenty, another drink mysteriously appeared
in front of me by my arch nemesis Jim, who
(22:19):
is clearly trying to cripple me and reduce my capabilities
on a golf course by successfully making me significantly hungover
this morning.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I hate to hear that you're overserved.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Well, but what's the gentleman to do. A fine, perfectly
good drink appears in front of them. What am I
going to do? Pour it out or pretend to sip
at it? No, certainly not. I'm going to draw down
it like kool aid and regret it in the morning.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
So you're playing pebble beach golf course, No, sir, No,
you're playing a dipple golf course.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah. Yeah, we're playing at the Monterey Peninsula Country.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Club and that's a private one.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yes it is, yes, hard. You will not be admitted
if you appear at the gate.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
What would it cost to become a there?
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Oh, let's not throw around. You know that's a rude.
What monetary figures?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
What have you heard?
Speaker 4 (23:09):
It's it's significant a lot. It is six figures for
sure to join, Yes, sir, that's the cover charge. Wow?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
And you know somebody who gets you on there is
that what happens.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah, yeah, old old friend. Yeah, I've been coming down
here for years. It's it is spectacular. I mean it sits.
There are two courses. They sit right between Pebble Beach
and uh, Spanish Bay for folks who know the area.
Does it right on the ocean?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Does it make Pebble Beach look like a putt putt course?
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Like a muni? Yeah, like an eight dollars muni. Now
you know, Pebble Beach has some magnificent holes and and
if you've ever played it, a number that are fine.
Mpcc is is pretty much spectacular stem to stern. But
I'm a lucky fella.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
And uh and have you ever have you? Have you
played it well when you've played it in the past?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Zis Yeah, up and down. You get distracted by the scenery. Honestly,
it's just so pretty. But who knows. The golf is
a stupid game, a waste of time and money and
a good walk spoiled as Twain. As Twain put it,
So we'll see what if you get it. I was
excited about this morning to read in the journal that
cocaine is making a big company.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, we did all those stats.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
Isn't that funny the day after we had that conversation about, Wow,
young people are doing hard drugs again, blah blah blah.
It's the surest and cheapest it's been in forever.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Right, And I love that the use on the West
Coast has increased like one hundred and fifty four percent
or something like that, and on the East coast not
so much. But La, I'm looking at you really with
the cocaine again. So is that what you're been through?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
This?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Is that what you remember? The suburban dads and moms
who ruin their family finances and the crack heads on
the strip. Do you know remember that? Well? The young
people don't.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
So is that where you're doing today? To get back
in the game. You're a little hungover, a little tired,
you get ready for the first tea.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
A couple of lines, yeah, yeah. A lot of golf
courses they have teas out for you, or you know,
ballmark repaired tools or whatever. Yeah, the better courses have
lines of blow if you, you know, need a little
pick me up, fantastic. I've said it a million times.
And if there are any young people listening, if you
want a drug that turns you into an a hole,
(25:28):
pardon me, do a little cocaine turns you into complete
raving jackass of a person.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
What's the appeal?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Then it makes you feel like you're the king of
the world. That's what they tell me, the druggies. Yeah,
it's just you feel like the master of the universe,
which and full of energy, and you want to chat
with people and pretend to listen to them, then chat more.
And it's just so.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
But feeling like the king of the world would make
you an a whole because lots of people who think
they're the king of the world or a holes.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Well, yeah, and people who are doing cocaine just prattle
on and on about nothing, and it makes you selfish
and you just want more cocaine. And it's yeah, it's
not good. I've seen the dynamic play out many times
and it does not turn you into a good person.
But what time is it speaking to young people if
I might indulge myself For Armstrong and Getty ogs who've
(26:24):
been listening since the beginning, you may recall me calling
in from the hospital announcing the birth of kidnumber three,
the fabulous Delany May. That was twenty six years ago today. Wow,
make us all feel.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Old Wow, I don't know if that was helpful.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Happy birthday, little d although she is in class law
school and not listening to this drivel.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Have you seen the one legged girl hitting the golf balls,
making the rounds today?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
It's on all the people again.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, very good.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
She's the poor girl who got her arm and leg
eaten off by a shark last year. Oh yeah, and
there's she's got a golf thing going now and she's
on the you know, speaking circuit to you know, help
you overcome your challenges. I mean, if you're playing golf
with one arm on one leg, you're overcoming challenges.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
There's no doubt.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
God, I can't imagine she has a prosthetic. I imagine. I
initially just literally pictured somebody playing golf on one leg,
and you would have to have spectacular balance.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Well she she yeah, that's what she does. She she
hits the ball and then she bounces a lot to
stay up.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Really yeah, oh I've got to see that. God, that's
you know, honestly, you know, the whole Speaker's circuit overcoming
your difficulties thing. I mean, I'm old and bitter, so
it's it's almost half a cliche. But imagine the courage
and patience. Oh my god, it takes it. Really, it
actually is inspiring.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
So got a question for you. I want to ask
your opinion on this before you have to go, okay,
nurse your hangover. I don't know if you've heard this
or not. So you remember after Charlie Kirk was shot,
they immediately had an old guy on the ground and
thought he was the shooter, and then he got cleared. Well,
(28:10):
the story that is out now that old guy yelled
it's me.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
I did it.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
I shot him immediately after the shooting to distract, he says,
his own words, to distract the police from the actual shooter.
Is it even conceivable that a seventy one year old
man could come up with that plan in a nanosecond
like that?
Speaker 3 (28:33):
I just I find that very difficult to believe.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Well, yeah, that's that's an interesting point slash question.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
This is going to drive conspiracies forever, obviously, because it's
pretty hard to swallow that. I know what I'll do?
You think it like two seconds?
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Well, he says it was to help the killer escape, right,
I suppose you could cook that up quickly. I mean,
I've known you never crossed my mind. Well, you're not nuts.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
I've known a couple of people in my life who
are very very bright and very very cuckoo, and I
wonder if this is just that the guy is just that.
So you think, do you actually think they were in
cahoots or just that it's hard to believe they're not.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
It's pretty damned hard to believe they're not.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I took this story at
face value, but I agree it's odd. You know, It's
bothered me because, of course a bunch of old guys
that are sitting around watching Fox News getting angry at
the world. Is that the video is coming in from
around the country of in particular college campuses, where it's
not like two or three people acting happy, it's a dozen.
(29:45):
It's twenty dancing around and mocking Charlie Kirk and laughing.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
That's weird.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yeah, yeah, And the demographic composition of those people is
interesting too, But it's I think that sort of ugly
nihilism is more common than we imagined. Well, what's the
demographic Well, obviously it's a lot of young people. There
were several predominantly black crowds that were just having a
(30:18):
huge laugh about it, which is not to suggest that
black people in particular are callous to this sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
But I don't remember him having a racial angle to
any of his stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
I mean, no, he didn't. I just think he is
seen as part of the white establishment, the you know,
the patriarchy, the you.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Know the bet Wow, that's disturbing.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
It, it really is. I don't think. The other hand,
it be hard.
Speaker 6 (30:46):
To name a person that I would get gleeful about
finding out they got shot in the neck and they're
a parent of young children. I can't even come up
with anybody hardly.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
No, I mean, even the worst criminal I'd much for
further dealt with through the judicial system. But yeah, yeah,
it's it's truly sick and nihilistic and kind of disturbing.
On the other hand, I'm sure you've heard that there
have been thousands, thousands of applications to form new Turning
Point USA chapters across campuses all all across America, high
(31:19):
schools and colleges, which, you know, God willing will be
the legacy of poor Charlie Kirk that his message got
through and grew and grew even after he was gone.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
Yeah, and I hope they can keep it on the rails,
because you know, there's a there's a fair amount of
blood lust out there where David Drucker and I were
just talking about that. I mean, it's just it's just
so easy to go down the road of the tip
for tat.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
They did this, we'll do that back and forth, right.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
You know there is something easy about anger?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Anybody who's ever been angry, he knows it's a hell
of a lot easier to stay angry than to calm
down and work through a problem, starting with me.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
So yeah, anyway, a scale of one to ten, how
hungover are you?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Two?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Oh two? Well that's yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
I went to bed immediately, sucked down a bunch of water,
and uh, I'm fine, I'm fine.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
What does a ten look like in your mind?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Oh? Good lord, it's well, it's been a very long time.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Are you crawling out of bed with a ten?
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Do you remember that night in San Francisco we were
out to like three am, which on the air at
six that was a ten?
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Okay, you are knee walking drunk.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
I was. I should have been hospitalized, Michael. I regret it.
And kids, remember old Uncle Joe's warning about cocaine over
indulgence in spirits will do the same thing. Do you
stay away. It's a nice coco.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
You're not a drinker, Michael. It's not really how drunk
you were, although that plays a role. It's the amount
of sleep, water, and food that you get in between
the next thing you have to do.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
That's really definitely a factor.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Yes, that's Joe Getty, everybody, He'll check in getting tomorrow.
We got to take a break.
Speaker 9 (33:01):
Stay here, Hey, The Biden family has hit the financial skids.
At least one organization tried to negotiate a lower rate
for Joe's speaking gigs. The offer includes one roundtrip Amtrak
ticket a set of complimentary depends.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
In a case of insure, but.
Speaker 9 (33:24):
Joe's agent keeps stressing that Joe's a limited time offer.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Time's running out.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
We just don't know when.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Those are age jokes about Joe Biden from Greg Guttfeld.
That's what that is right now. I don't know if
you know this, but Katie, Katie the news Lady Katie Green,
her dad was a judge for a very long time.
He's a retired Superior court judge in Alameda County. That's
where Oakland is, and we're going to talk to him
an hour three a little bit about the situation with
(33:56):
the shooter in Utah and these kind of court cases
and that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
So that'll kick off our three.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
I hope you can get it if you don't get
the podcast, Armstrong and get on demand. I don't know
if you've seen that. A TikTok deal looks like it's
gonna happen. We are going to have a report on
that a little bit later. The confusing part, though, is
I can't always forget nobody on this show uses TikTok.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
You use TikTok though, right, you have it on your phone?
I do, okay, and you like it?
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Well, eh, somewhat.
Speaker 8 (34:24):
The algorithm's all screwed up for me, so it's feeding
me a bunch of you know, like we talked about this,
I think on the One More Thing podcast. For some reason,
they keep getting these muck bangs or people are just
eating an obnoxious amounts of food like slobs.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Well, the algorithm is supposed to be like the best
invented by anybody out there in terms of determining what
you like. Apparently your's got thrown off somehow. But yeah,
But the whole thing with TikTok is the algorithm. It's ingenious,
better than anything youtubes come up with, their Instagrams come
up with, anybody's come up with for keeping you engaged,
figuring out the sort of stuff you're gonna want to
(34:58):
watch and click on, TikTok's really good at that.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Well, so, the big deal with.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
The settlement with China hinges on the algorithm, and CNBC
reported that they will keep more or less the same
algorithm when it's in the hands of American Corporation. But
(35:22):
The Wall Street Journal says, no, no, no, it's got
to be a completely different algorithm. Well, if it's a
completely different algorithm, it's it's like, have you ever this
happens a lot. You eat a historic restaurant and then
on the menu they got information about the restaurant, and
it always says it burned down in eighteen twenty then
was rebuilt, and I always or you know, okay, well,
then it's not the same historic restaurant that Wyatt shot
(35:46):
somebody in or whatever the hell this place is famous for.
It burnt down, you rebuilt it. It's a different place.
It's just in the same spot. It's like TikTok, it's
going to have the same name, but if it has
a new algorithm, it's not TikTok. It's just something else.
So that's the part I don't quite get. But at
least it won't be a Chinese spy app anymore, which
(36:07):
is the thing that Congress. The reason Congress said it's
got to go, and why the Supreme Court voted nine
to oh that yeah, they upheld that law and everything.
So we'll get more on that a little bit later.
I do want to talk about the pot luck I
went to and the baked chicken that Henry and I
made and how that went. It was much more difficult
than I should have been. If you miss Seke making
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