November 5, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- Supreme Court on tariffs
- Toy Story - the back story
- Gavin Newsom wears us out & Tom Selleck
- KJP's book
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty arm Strong
and Jetty and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
And finally I heard about a man in France who
fell into a ravine and survived for three days on
nothing but red wine, or as we call it here
in America.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Hey, now I'm looking up at the TV. They're having
a little discussion about AI music and the idea that,
you know, who does anybody own the right so that
or who owns the right set?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I never thought about that.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
But with some of your formulaic pop music, like country music,
for instance, since it's all really close to the same anyway,
why would record companies.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Need to pay anyone anything?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Why would you need to have a writer who gets
some of the money, or of course nobody's getting any money. Now.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
It's all about the touring, right and you need that
human being up on stage.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
To promote the song, to go on Saturday Night Live
and sing it on or whatever are you right, and
then sell concert tickets anyway? Right now, Washington, d C.
The Supreme Court, the justices, the barobued justices are doing
the whole oral arguments thing over whether or not Trump
has got the power to lay tariffs on all these
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different countries around the world and up end of the
world economy is one guy. It just seems like to me,
without knowing any of the law, it just doesn't seem
like the way the system out of work.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Right, as an actual conservative as opposed to a I
support everything Trump does, character it's troubling that much executive power.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, and so the voices you're gonna hear are gonna
hear the lawyer representing Trump's point of view that yes,
he does have the power, and the female voice is
Amy Cony Barrett, the conservative justice the Trump appointed.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Okay, okay, so an intermediate appellate court held at Intuia.
But you just told Justice Kavanaugh that wasn't your lead argument.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
That your lead.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Argument was this long history of the phrase regulate importation
being understood to include terrorf authority. So my question is,
has there ever been another instance in which a statute
has conferred used that language to confer the power.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Well, putting aside just cheetah, I.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Mean, actually the other statutory example that just the imports.
The cases we rely on our cases where, for example,
and Gibbons is ogged in and Justice story.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
See that just shows the word can be used that way.
None of those cases talked about it as conferring teriff authority.
I understood you to be citing McGoldrick and Gibbons and
those cases just to show that it's possible to say
that regulating commerce includes the power to tire.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
I think our argument goes a bit further than that
as interpretive matter, because if you look at that history,
the history of delis is just answered the justices question.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Con you identify any statute that use that phrase to
confert her.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
The only two statutes I can identify now are tweya
as interpreted in Yoshida and then closely related, not regular importation,
but but just imports.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
In section two, that was the chicks before Styx, you know,
jumping up there and saying, hey, don't let some dude
man splain answer her question.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Says the other chow Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
The other chick may have been Justice Soda my Oar
standing up for Amy Cony Barrett, which is kind of
an interesting dynamic now that you bring it up. Coming up,
there's a real bitter debate dividing the Supreme Court's liberal
justices right now, what fuck?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, I was just one of your all?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Was that a I'm jumping in here because my fellow
female justice isn't getting your question answered.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
They don't have the patience with the rambling.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
They don't have the same politics, although they might on
this issue.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It's conceivable.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, very very very consumable. You know, I didn't understand.
And the vast majority of that I'd forgotten. The voice
of that dude whatever his name is, that represents Trump
and all these things, ee John Sour. He's hard to
listen to. Terrible types the CNN, you know, little words.
The bottom of the screen. Conceptualization of this was Chief
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Justice Roberts and conservative Barrett pick a part Trump administration's
arguments on sweeping terror authority. Although that's fairly vague that
that's what you do.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
You pick upart.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Arguments, doesn't mean you didn't believe them, were like them, right,
Maybe you worth at least a few seconds on the
fact that often Supreme Court justices will try to find
flaws in their own arguments, which is really a pretty
good thing for all of us to do if we're
trying to be serious about having good, strong ideas and philosophies,
but they want to see if the other council can
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point out a weakness in their own argument, so they
can either come up with a way to strengthen their
argument or realize maybe I'm not right, because no justice
wants to write an opinion and then be post at
having missed a major point.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
That's my favorite thing about the orl arguments is that
every time they come up, all smart people say you
cannot tell anything from the arguments, and then we go
back to listening to the arguments, trying to deduce what
we think it's.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Happening, having just stated that you can tell but that's what.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well, No, I must quibble with your characterization that you
can't tell anything from it. But you're right. You got
to take it all with a grain of salt. You
get clues, and clues are not proof.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
So I think this. Here's the next one.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
This is John Roberts, the Chief Justice, also a conservative,
questioning Trump's lawyer.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
No, it's not or less. They're more or less a
conservative more or less? Yeah, gotcha?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Okay, if a cariff is imposed on they're automobiles, who
pays them? There's a they're Typically there'd be a regardless
who the importer of record is, there'd be a contract
that would go along the sort of line of transfer
that would allocate the tariff, and there'd be different Sometimes
that foreign the foreign producer would pay them. Sometimes the
importer bear the cost. The importer could be an American,
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could be a foreign company. A lot of times it's
a wholly owned American subsidiary of a foreign corporation, so
it gets allocated. The pure blossom has ranged from like
thirty percent to eighty percent of.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Like how much is born by I mean, it's been
suggested that the tariffs are responsible for significant reduction in
our deficit.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I would say that's raising revenue domestically.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
There certainly is an incident on collateral effect to the
terraffs that they do raise revenue, But it's very important
that they are regulatory terrafts, not revenue raising terraces.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Hmmm.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
That's interesting. From the politics of it, Trump has been
pushing it as a big revenue maker for a long time.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yes, slicing lee the illegal argument a bit thin.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Can I get somebody whose voice doesn't make it so distracting?
I can't even really pay attention to what he's saying.
Would that be possible.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I know that's not fair and it may make us idiots,
but it's like RFK, Junior, get a spokesper person, please,
or even like an AI program or a parrot or something.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You just and I'm sorry you have the condition in
your voice. Is not your fault.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
No, it's not your fault. You're probably a brilliant laurier.
But I can't listen to you right. Ah, it would
be an interesting idea, he whispered in the pariser, and
then the parent recite recites what you just said to it.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Because I have no life, I spent a bunch of
time reading about who is actually paying the tariffs, and
it varies product to product, substance to substance if we're
talking about like a raw material.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
So it very cross when people yell at tariff is attacks.
Is that too broad and simply simplified. No, no, No,
it's a tax.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Uh. The question is who pays it?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And and again you got to go practically product by product.
But in some cases the manufacturer in the fur and
Land says, uh, you know, our profit margin is x.
We could take a haircut of you know, two percent
of our profits, and because we don't want to shock
the consumers and the importer, the middleman says, you know, oh,
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I could probably lose one percent on this deal, and
then the retailers gosh, dangn things are pretty tight here.
I could probably nip off a half a percent and
so the consumer pays very very little of the tax,
at least initially. And there are other industries where they
saw the tariffs coming and so they built enormous stockpiles
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both here and abroad of stuff that won't be tariffed
because of the date it was brought into the duty
free warehouser.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I can't remember the technical term.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
But anyway, and that will change as the months go
by and their inventory is depleted. So it's interesting. It's
the reason it hasn't really hit inflation with us, you know,
with serious impact so far, is because it takes a
long time to play out.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Because business people are smart.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
They do their best to not shock the consumer into
what not buying their stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Here's Jonathan Turley's assessment. He's been following the whole thing today,
and then we can move on sour. That's the guy
with the horrible voice that I can't listen to is
doing a brilliant job and fending off probing questions. While
he might not win over some of these justices, he
has been very nimble and stout in his defense. That's
what we try to be. Nimble and stout.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, every day, some days he's more nimble, I'm more
stout some days, vice versa.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
You just got to see how you feel air day,
nimble and stout. So I found this super interesting.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
And this is getting of course, because the media are
lying biased jackasses. As interesting as this is, it's get
no coverage. The debate dividing the Supreme Court's liberal justices
Kagan and Jackson especially, are really at odds with each
other because Justice Kagan, for all of my disagreement with
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heron a lot of policy, is very respectful of the
traditions of the Court and understands how important it is
that Supreme Court justices act like Supreme Court justices Angie
Brown Jackson Shock, the youngest and most radical leftist of
the justices.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Who did the most talking last year, by far, the
youngest newest justice did the most talking.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
You don't need anything happen a little life experience.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Anybody with a little all life experience understands what we
just said and what it means.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Anyway, she believes that she should be an.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Activist and talk to the press all the time and
go outside the court and make strong statements and the
rest of it, because she's going to preach to the people.
And the Conservatives and Trump are accused of undermining our institutions,
and they do sometimes honestly, right, but it's Trump who
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destroyed the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
For years, Justice Kagan is agonized over whether to be
more confrontational confidence and mostly concluded that to be a
effective she must be careful about rocking the boat and
just be as good at her job as she could
possibly be, which is a very admirable stance. But in
recent months, Justice kagan'st liberal Justice. I'm sorry, colleague Justice
cab Age, I need to slow the hell down. Michael,
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tell me to slow the hell down. Oh that's right,
you don't he down. Oh okay, you dropped an h
bomb there. But in recent months, uh KBJ has started
warning the public that the boat is sinking. In one
opinion after another, Jackson has accused the right side of
the Court of favoring moneyed interests and of complicity that
enables our collective demise.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Not because you're not supposed.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
To go at the other justice's motives and say they're
bad people, that that decision only became came because they're
greedy and they're kissing up to the money and interests.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
You don't do that, you moron.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
How do you think this ends? I'll tell you how
it ends on how it ends, but i'll tell you
what the next step is. Trump convinces whoever's running the
Senate to do away with the filibuster, and then the
Republicans next vacancy get through some red meat chucking firebrand
justice who's on the Court who takes it even further,
And then the Democrats do the same thing their next justice,
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and pretty soon the Supreme Court is like the House
of Representatives or a panel on a cable show.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Final note at oral arguments is Jack indicating she's taken
up far more speaking time than her colleagues even though
she is the youngest and newest. Blah blah blah blah.
I'm not afraid to use my voice, she said in
an eventual lapse.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Al Right, ah, right, why don't you try being nimble
and stout for a change.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, what he said. I had enough of that. Now
something different. Oh, the polymarkets, which are interesting in their
ability to predict your giant global betting markets, give the
administration only a thirty nine percent chance of victory. Oh really, Yeah,
we'll keep an eye on that. See if they're right.
It's an interesting thing, the wisdom of crowds. You heard
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of that, right, We'll see how well they predict this.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
It will be a pretty big deal that I've after
all this tariff stuff for the past ten months. It'll
be a oh, nevermind, I guess we can't do that.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
That's one of the administration's arguments which I do not
find compelling, is hey, look, we've weaved this incredibly tangled web.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You can undo it now. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Well, we'll see the movie Toy Story, a childhood classic.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Either you watched it as a kid or your kids
watched it. Almost wasn't what it.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Was according to Tom Hanks, which is an interesting story among
other things. On the way stay here. So Hansen texted
us last night he was he's our executive producer, that
he was at a junior high basketball game and when
one of the teams hit the score sixty seven, everybody
went berserk.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
And cheered increase.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I got crazy, so I brought up that whole Oh
that's what we were arguing with Groc about last night.
So I asked myself about where'des six seventh thing start,
do you know? And he said it was this kid
on YouTube and he brought up the video. They were
rooting for NBA player Lorenzo Ball, who's number of sixty seven, anyway,
and they started just chairing six seven to this, and
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it somehow be caught on from there anyway, So I
asked Groc about it, and she had some something from
a rap song going way back, and Henry said, no,
that's not right, and Groc said, actually it is. And
then I said, don't interrupt her. Gro don't interrupt her, Henry,
and he said, she's not her, it's an it. It's
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a computer, dad. And then I said, sorry, Groc, he
should have interrupted you. Go on, and she said, that's
all right, it happens, don't worry about it. And then
she gave me the.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Answer with a chuckle. With a chuckle, yes, she laughed
like a good.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Hearty laugh about how funny it was that my son
and I were kind of having a little argument, and
he interrupted, that's weird anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Gives me the same feeling like a alsman who's trying
to be my best friend.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yes, gives me Yeah, right, I'm not a fool. Yes here, Yeah,
I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Toy Story beloved movie. If you're of a certain age,
you watched it as a kid. If you're older, your
kids watched it. Here's Tom Hanks describing how almost wasn't
what it was.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
Tim Allen and I and everybody involved in it. We
recorded a toy Story movie for about eighty minutes of
it that was completely thrown out a different story. Yeah,
it was everything because the people who were running the studio,
not Pixar, said look, it's a cartoon. Let's make them
wise cracking, insult each other and come up with goofy things.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It didn't work.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
It wasn't Toy Story, it wasn't what Pixar was going for.
So we got one of those calls from John Lassiter.
John called up and they said, hey, listen, we've looked
at it and it's just not working, and we would
like to start all over from scratch.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
How long had you.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Been working We had been working on it for about
two years. I would say about two years.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
So then we began the process all over again, which
is about it two and a half to.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Three year process.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
And there's gonna be another there's going to be a
fifth toy story.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Movements that's interesting. Two years in and they decided and
his ain't working. Then started over and obviously one of
the greatest kids movies of all time.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, And but just by coincidence, when our kids were little,
Andy in the movies was little, and as he grew,
my kids were growing, and when he went off to
college was right when I think one or both of
my older kids were going off to college. And wholly
counted that yank at the heartstrings those movies. But now
it's all owned by the mouse, the giant, evil, befanged
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blood dripping from his greedy claws.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Mouse that is. Disney probably has haunt careful.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
They have lawyers, many lawyers, so I shouldn't say that
Mickey Mouse likely has Haunta.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Man, It's funny, whether it's a movie or a song
or whatever, sometimes you get to three quarters of the
way through it and you realize, I have no why
to you, why this isn't working, but it's not working.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, that's where the real art comes in, and I'm
fascinated by it. Some people are really good at figuring
that out. We got a little more analysis of what
happened across the country yesterday and all the things talk about.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I hope you can stay here, armstrong and getty.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
After poking the bear, this bear roared with an unprecedented
turnout in a special election with an extraordinary result.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
All Right, that's one of the problems with living in California.
We got a head start on being tired of who
might be the nominee for the Democrats for president, because
it gets you get pretty tired of these people when
you're running for president on TV every single day for
two years.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Even if you like them.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, we're already tired them anyway. It's a big political win,
no doubt for Gavin Newsom originally proposed. Everybody hated it,
including Democrats. No, we're not going to put districting lines
back in the hands of the politicians, but they framed
it as being anti Trump, and so it won by
like twenty five points yesterday. They're going to redistrict, they're
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going to re re and more. Extremely jerrymander California from
what it already was, which was pretty jerryman which was
pretty jerry mannered already. And now it's mentioning that the.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Special interests of California, specifically the public employee unions, the
trial lawyers unions in general, always turn out like crazy
on off your elections. So if they really want to
get dirty work done, they'll do it in these kind
of weird off your elections. Yeah, because the generalized taxpayer
interested voter in California just doesn't turn out.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
The on purpose irony is that is pitched as saving democracy,
and it's like the worst thing you could do for democracy.
The more gerrymandering you have, the less democracy. Anyway, here's
Gavin Newsom, who has really leapt to the top of
the list of likely nominees for president for the Democratic
Party after yesterday gloating Donald.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Trump called up the Border Patrol, sent them to Dodger
Stadium and through a fastball at free speech, right of
the head free expression to suppress the vote in America's
second largest city.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Just did that today, people.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
In tactical gears sent out to intimidate a community that
is all ready on edge. But you see as we speak,
people are still in line, people waiting up three hours
to cast their vote, to send a message to Donald Trump.
No crowns, no thrones, no kings. That's what this victory represents,
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is a victory for the people of the state of
California and the United States of America.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
The vomited.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
He doesn't have the chops to win the presidency unless
the Republicans really cough up a loser.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
No crowns, thorns, no kings. Johnald Trump, Jernald Trump. Johnald
Trump said tactical gears. He didn't get everything right in that.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, yeah, I just populist politics wear me out.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Well, we're going more that direction. See zorn man, dummy mom, dummy.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Man.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Don It's actually not right.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
The Democratic Socialists of America more radical than ever and
they're winning.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Next hour.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Just see my favorite I just saw my favorite tweet
of the day. This is from It doesn't really matter
who it's from, but it's from Molly Hemingway. She's a pundit.
It doesn't matter her tweet is The guy next to
me in line at Starbucks is friends with Tom Sellick,
and I'm super excited to hear his stories.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Wow, Wow, How in the world.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Did that come up in conversation? Is this the sort
of guy that goes around and will just offer it
up out of nowhere? The fact that he's friends with
Tom Sellick?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Right right? How do you know somebody went to Harvard?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
They'll tell you, how do you know somebody's friends with
Tom's like, that's not normally the way a friend of
a celebrity acts is that you go around and tell baby,
you know, I'm friends with whoever?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I mean, granted, sometimes you got to cool your heels
for a little bit waiting for your order in a Starbucks, But.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
How the heck did that come out? Yeah? How did
it come up?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Where did the conversation go that got to what celebrities
do you happen to know? Funny you ask, I'm friends
with Tom Sellick. And then the next part, I'm super
excited to hear his stories. I'm super excited. Here's another
thing I know about my friend Tom Sewick.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
He has two I take here myself saying, wow, that's
that's great. I tell you what else he ought to
know about Tom is he has two dogs. I'm like, wow, yeah,
I like dogs too. I tell you what a great
sense of humor too. One day, Tom and I were
on the golf course and I'm thinking, oh, for God's sake,
please call Joe, Please call Joe so I can get
out of here.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
His mustache was even better in person.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
But Molly is quote super excited to hear the stories
that each thero own. I guess, I don't you know.
I just I'm not super into actors. If somebody, if
somehow I fell into a conversation with somebody who's like
a longtime friend of Tiger Woods or Phil Mickelson or
something like that, yeah, I'd be interested. I'd want to
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hear the stories. I gotta admit it. Okay, each their own,
I suppose.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah. I guess you're right, if you're being fair, you
have your own. But it's gotta be I don't know,
I have to have some interest to it. Really. Bob
Dylan's got two dogs on to Biaomadean, so I uh.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I could go on and on for hours and hours
about Zoron Mamdami's victory and the Democratic Socialists of America
and how socialism slides inevitably into totalitarianism and death and horror.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Doesn't sound very entertaining, does it?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Just happen to read an unbelievable piece of writing.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I didn't finish it. It's long.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's a problem with the internet. Bag in the day,
I'll tell you what, youngsters. Back in the day, there's
a limit to how much you could put in the
newspaper because it had to fit in a little tube, right,
and so we had to head it.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
But what the Internet, It doesn't matter. Every freaking thing
you can.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Somebody asks you, hey, is it's supposed to rain tomorrow?
You get ten thousand words. This happened right exactly, with
ten thousand words per link.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Right. In addition, if you have literally nothing else to do,
this guy was about Okay, this guy.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I was writing about a movie was a springboard a
movie about this topic. But the pole Pot regime in Cambodia,
the Khmer Rouge, which if you're not familiar with it,
was a communist regime. It came to power making all
of the standard promises of socialism slash Marxism slash communism,
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which are often disguising themselves as one or the other,
even though they're all communists. And how inevitably central planning
means central control, and to control people you have to
hurt them, and if they continue to resist, you have
to kill them, especially because you have to kill lots
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and lots of people before people of good conscience stop resisting,
You have to terrorize them into submission. And I remember
because I was a weird little kid, and I read
the news magazines that we got in our house every
single week, and the full horror of the Khmer Rouge
in Cambodia was, you know, in those magazines. So it
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I was like, really weirdly aware of this as an
eleven twelve year old because it was in the seventies.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, but pol Pot.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And his Khmer Rouge regime ended up killing off twenty
five percent of the population, worked them to death, tortured
them to death, executed them to the point that the
rain would fall, and all over this region around the
airport that was never finished. When the rain would fall,
the bones would come up through the ground because they
had killed so many people. And you know, I don't
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think every you know, a person who wants free bus
rides going to end up being whole pot.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
That the difficulty is.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
And we've argued many times on this show that not
every slope is slippery, but the difficulty is given the
amount of dishonesty in Marxism, and Jack, I know you
can talk about this at length. How the Marxist Leninists
in the early days they thought the working class were
too stupid to get it, and so they would dupe
or force them into the paradise.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
That that would be unleashed.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
But anyway, to stop parenthetical thoughts and get to my
own damn point. The problem with all of this stuff
is that by the time you realize it's no longer
step A or B, you're indeed at step F.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You can't go back anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
They've got too tight a hold on society and too
much control, and they can really really hurt people to
make them conform. And so when I see a guy
like Mamdani who's not only an avowed democratic socialist and
what those people believe next hour in their own words,
I believe him to be something of an Islamist as well.
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I can guarantee you his rhetoric is a cleansed version,
a sanitized version of what he really thinks and wants.
And that's what bothers me so much about his election,
knowing where this sort of thing ends.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You know, Tom Sellig likes his coffee skim milk.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Oh God, would you please stop talking to me. I've
looked at my phone, I've pretended to take a call.
You're still telling me about Tom Sellick.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Please stop.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I acted like I don't understand English, and you still
keep telling me about Tom Selleck.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Much as I enjoyed that comedic interlude, this is a
wonderful coincidence after that screed about totalitarianism that it's the
annual Warrior Foundation Freedom Station Giveathon taking place tomorrow on Thursday.
This is a fabulous organization we have supported for years
and years.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, for twenty one years.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Warrior Foundation Freedom Station has been a lifeline for our
ill and injured warriors, battling post traumatic stress, dramatic brain injuries,
all the challenges of transitioning to civilian life. Well, they're
doing the whole home for the Holidays fly I'm Home
for the Holidays thing again this year, because everybody deserves
to be with loved ones on you know, on Christmas,
and it's a chance for you to fly them home
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tax deductible donation.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
It's more than a gift.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
It's a way to say thank you to warriors who
would never ask for help themselves.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I mean, the folks who have made unbelievable sacrifices for
our liberty and fight off the forces we are just
talking about deserve a giant thank you. And to be
at home with the folks for the holidays is a
great gift. And if they're not in the shape to travel,
Warrior Foundation Freedom Station flies their folks to be with
them at Warrior Foundation Freedom Station.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
It's easy to donate.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Call six to one nine Warrior that's six to one
to nine Warrior or get the name right Warrior Foundation
dot org. That's Warrior Foundation dot org.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I mentioned this earlier.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
CBS That Today is doing a feature about this popular
AI singer that apparently has a couple of hits, whatever
hits are anymore, And I don't I can't quite wrap
my head around what they're doing here. They're interviewing somebody
who told Grock have a hot young black chick sing
this song as the creator of a popular AI singer,
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they wrote the lyrics, but Sila person is just I
don't know. If you've messed around with AI, you can
make an attractive we're unattractive.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
You can make anything you want. It's very easy.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, who are they interviewing the person not a creator
of the popular AI singer.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
But it is an art form in a real weird way.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
But it'll have a very very short shelf life because
anybody can do it right.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, I don't get it. I think it might be
a show run by old people for old people, completely
not understanding what's going on here? Thing go okay.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, they're calling it the worst political memoir in history,
the KJP Memoir and hilariously obsurdic review of it coming up.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
We read the kicking it took from The New York
Times last week, which was pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Oof. Stay tuned.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Karine Jean Pierre KJP, as she is known, White House
Press spokesman in the Biden administration, got a new book
out last week. We read the review from the New
York Times, which was scathing, I mean brutal.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I must quibble. She's the she was the press secretary.
That is a cabinet level post. I didn't know that,
Biden administration your cabinet level.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
And Andrew Styles of the Free Beacon, who is absolutely
brilliant and hilarious, has written a lengthy piece.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I'm going to hit you with some of it, but
I'm going to drop down to toward the end. This
summerizes it nicely.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Independent, which is the ballsy title of the book. It's
got a long subtitle, is, which is both mercifully brief
and intolerably long, defies credulity at every turn. Well, the
subtitle is important because it's like my tales from a
broken White House or whatever.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
It mentions a broken White House.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
And then when the New York magazine asked her about
you know, we'll tell us some tales from the broken
white House, you know, the Biden administration, you're behind the scenes,
she said, Oh, I meant the Trump white House, right what,
you don't have any tales from the you weren't in
the Trump white House.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
The title of the book is Independent, a look inside
a broken White House outside the party lines.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
But she doesn't have any tales from the broken White House.
She's still claiming that Joe Biden's perfectly fine and could
have been president for more years than blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Well, as Andrew writes, KJP can't stop making history. Earlier
this year, the former White House Press secretary became the
highest ranking openly queer French born black woman with a
hyphenated surname to publicly renounce the Democratic Party for being
mean to Joe Biden. She is the only black, female,
lesbian immigrant to publish a book about her time in
the Biden administration. It is the worst political memoir ever
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written in the history of the English language. This is
not hyperbole. It's an especially vacuous genre and highly competitive,
to be sure, But imagine writing a book so bad
it could shame Democrats and liberals into second guessing their
cult like devotion to DEI.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
That's what she's done with his book.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
In twenty twenty two, Jean Pierre's promotion of the wh
Press secretary was hailed by Democrats and journalists to the
extent there's a difference as a triumph for diversity and representation,
and it's worth pointing out that on the Armstrong and
Getty Show, for every single second we were saying what
the left is now saying. After years of angrily shouting
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that it wasn't true, she is now widely viewed, in
the words of a reporter who worked with her quote
as the most incompetent and irrelevant White House Press secretary ever.
Former colleagues describer as quote ineffectual, unprepared, and kind of
dumb oooh. Looking back on the Great Awokening of twenty
twenty one, can't help but marvel at what Jean Pierre
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has managed to achieve. Democrats are finally starting to connect
the dots, casting KJP as a cautionary to of what
happens when desired to make history takes precedence over everything else,
said a Zai Jelani, a former blogger at the left
wing Center for American Progress, which is influential on the left.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
If Democrats really want to help minorities, they have to
stop defending incompetence. Karine Jean Pierre was never good at
her job, and it took progressives four years to admit it.
It's remarkably Jean Pierre's book tour, if you can call it, that,
has been described as a car crash of non stop cringe.
She fumbles her way through interviews, repeatedly invoking her lived
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experience as a trailblazing black woman, openly gave pioneer the
same people who celebrated her historic promotion, and the first
to denounce people like us as her as bigots are
now rolling their eyes quote every time she falls back
on identity politics. Instead of actually answering questions, she reinforces
the worst stereotypes about Democrats. A former White House colleague
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told Politico, it's truly remarkable and your reference Jack her
egregious performance in an interview with the New Yorkers Isaac Chotner.
And we're talking about the freaking New Yorker here, folks,
We're not talking about, you know, sitting down with Rush
Limbaugh when he still graced the earth, was his presence
or even the Wall Street Journal? Was the New Yorker anyway.
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One Democratic strategist liking dandum Mike Tyson fighting a baby.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Well, I wouldn't be a fair fight, not a joke.
The baby wouldn't have a chance.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
It's forced many liberals to embrace the possibility that John
Pierrot was utterly unqualified for a job.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
This is a liberal journalist, Jordan Weisman. I don't recall
her ever transforming into a dervish of complete nonsense like
this on the podium.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
But maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Fact Jack, he clearly wasn't paying attention because she's always
been like this.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
H and The New York Times mentioned in their review
that they called her for explanation for some of her claims,
and she wasn't able to talk to him. She turned
down being interviewed by The New York Times about her
book because she knew she couldn't answer the questions of like,
what do you mean inside a broken white House? You're
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talking about the Trump White House. You didn't work in
the Trump White House. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
How doesn't make any sense?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, it calls breaking up. So it's both mercifully brief
at one hundred and seventy two pages and intolerably long,
defies credulity at every turn. KJP claims she never noticed
Biden's cognitive decline despite meeting with him at least once
a day for two and a half years. Her observations
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reflect an alarming disconnect with.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Reality, and he goes into Martinez.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
But she kind of has to do that or she'd
be the least patriotic person in America if she was
supposed to admit. Oh, yeah, I saw him every single day.
He wasn't capable of being president. His brain hardly worked.
I just kept my mouth shut because I thought I
was supposed to.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Our politics are so broken, Yes, it is, it can't.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
It's very difficult to figure out how it would improve
if you miss a segment or an hour. Get a
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
And finally I heard about a man in France who
fell into a ravine and survived for three days on
nothing but red wine, or as we call it here
in America.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Hey, now I'm looking up at the TV. They're having
a little discussion about AI music and the idea that,
you know, who does anybody own the right so that
or who owns the right set?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I never thought about that.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
But with some of your formulaic pop music, like country music,
for instance, since it's all really close to the same anyway,
why would record companies.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Need to pay anyone anything?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Why would you need to have a writer who gets
some of the money, or of course nobody's getting any money. Now.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
It's all about the touring, right and you need that
human being up on stage.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
To promote the song, to go on Saturday Night Live
and sing it on or whatever are you right, and
then sell concert tickets anyway? Right now, Washington, d C.
The Supreme Court, the justices, the barobued justices are doing
the whole oral arguments thing over whether or not Trump
has got the power to lay tariffs on all these
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different countries around the world and up end of the
world economy is one guy. It just seems like to me,
without knowing any of the law, it just doesn't seem
like the way the system out of work.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Right, as an actual conservative as opposed to a I
support everything Trump does, character it's troubling that much executive power.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, and so the voices you're gonna hear are gonna
hear the lawyer representing Trump's point of view that yes,
he does have the power, and the female voice is
Amy Cony Barrett, the conservative justice the Trump appointed.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Okay, okay, so an intermediate appellate court held at Intuia.
But you just told Justice Kavanaugh that wasn't your lead argument.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
That your lead.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Argument was this long history of the phrase regulate importation
being understood to include terrorf authority. So my question is,
has there ever been another instance in which a statute
has conferred used that language to confer the power.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Well, putting aside just cheetah, I.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Mean, actually the other statutory example that just the imports.
The cases we rely on our cases where, for example,
and Gibbons is ogged in and Justice story.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
See that just shows the word can be used that way.
None of those cases talked about it as conferring teriff authority.
I understood you to be citing McGoldrick and Gibbons and
those cases just to show that it's possible to say
that regulating commerce includes the power to tire.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
I think our argument goes a bit further than that
as interpretive matter, because if you look at that history,
the history of delis is just answered the justices question.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Con you identify any statute that use that phrase to
confert her.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
The only two statutes I can identify now are tweya
as interpreted in Yoshida and then closely related, not regular importation,
but but just imports.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
In section two, that was the chicks before Styx, you know,
jumping up there and saying, hey, don't let some dude
man splain answer her question.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Says the other chow Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
The other chick may have been Justice Soda my Oar
standing up for Amy Cony Barrett, which is kind of
an interesting dynamic now that you bring it up. Coming up,
there's a real bitter debate dividing the Supreme Court's liberal
justices right now, what fuck?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, I was just one of your all?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Was that a I'm jumping in here because my fellow
female justice isn't getting your question answered.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
They don't have the patience with the rambling.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
They don't have the same politics, although they might on
this issue.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It's conceivable.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, very very very consumable. You know, I didn't understand.
And the vast majority of that I'd forgotten. The voice
of that dude whatever his name is, that represents Trump
and all these things, ee John Sour. He's hard to
listen to. Terrible types the CNN, you know, little words.
The bottom of the screen. Conceptualization of this was Chief
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Justice Roberts and conservative Barrett pick a part Trump administration's
arguments on sweeping terror authority. Although that's fairly vague that
that's what you do.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
You pick upart.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Arguments, doesn't mean you didn't believe them, were like them, right,
Maybe you worth at least a few seconds on the
fact that often Supreme Court justices will try to find
flaws in their own arguments, which is really a pretty
good thing for all of us to do if we're
trying to be serious about having good, strong ideas and philosophies,
but they want to see if the other council can
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point out a weakness in their own argument, so they
can either come up with a way to strengthen their
argument or realize maybe I'm not right, because no justice
wants to write an opinion and then be post at
having missed a major point.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
That's my favorite thing about the orl arguments is that
every time they come up, all smart people say you
cannot tell anything from the arguments, and then we go
back to listening to the arguments, trying to deduce what
we think it's.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Happening, having just stated that you can tell but that's what.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well, No, I must quibble with your characterization that you
can't tell anything from it. But you're right. You got
to take it all with a grain of salt. You
get clues, and clues are not proof.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
So I think this. Here's the next one.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
This is John Roberts, the Chief Justice, also a conservative,
questioning Trump's lawyer.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
No, it's not or less. They're more or less a
conservative more or less? Yeah, gotcha?
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Okay, if a cariff is imposed on they're automobiles, who
pays them? There's a they're Typically there'd be a regardless
who the importer of record is, there'd be a contract
that would go along the sort of line of transfer
that would allocate the tariff, and there'd be different Sometimes
that foreign the foreign producer would pay them. Sometimes the
importer bear the cost. The importer could be an American,
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could be a foreign company. A lot of times it's
a wholly owned American subsidiary of a foreign corporation, so
it gets allocated. The pure blossom has ranged from like
thirty percent to eighty percent of.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Like how much is born by I mean, it's been
suggested that the tariffs are responsible for significant reduction in
our deficit.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I would say that's raising revenue domestically.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
There certainly is an incident on collateral effect to the
terraffs that they do raise revenue, But it's very important
that they are regulatory terrafts, not revenue raising terraces.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Hmmm.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
That's interesting. From the politics of it, Trump has been
pushing it as a big revenue maker for a long time.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yes, slicing lee the illegal argument a bit thin.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Can I get somebody whose voice doesn't make it so distracting?
I can't even really pay attention to what he's saying.
Would that be possible.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I know that's not fair and it may make us idiots,
but it's like RFK, Junior, get a spokesper person, please,
or even like an AI program or a parrot or something.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You just and I'm sorry you have the condition in
your voice. Is not your fault.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
No, it's not your fault. You're probably a brilliant laurier.
But I can't listen to you right. Ah, it would
be an interesting idea, he whispered in the pariser, and
then the parent recite recites what you just said to it.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Because I have no life, I spent a bunch of
time reading about who is actually paying the tariffs, and
it varies product to product, substance to substance if we're
talking about like a raw material.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
So it very cross when people yell at tariff is attacks.
Is that too broad and simply simplified. No, no, No,
it's a tax.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Uh. The question is who pays it?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And and again you got to go practically product by product.
But in some cases the manufacturer in the fur and
Land says, uh, you know, our profit margin is x.
We could take a haircut of you know, two percent
of our profits, and because we don't want to shock
the consumers and the importer, the middleman says, you know, oh,
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I could probably lose one percent on this deal, and
then the retailers gosh, dangn things are pretty tight here.
I could probably nip off a half a percent and
so the consumer pays very very little of the tax,
at least initially. And there are other industries where they
saw the tariffs coming and so they built enormous stockpiles
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both here and abroad of stuff that won't be tariffed
because of the date it was brought into the duty
free warehouser.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I can't remember the technical term.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
But anyway, and that will change as the months go
by and their inventory is depleted. So it's interesting. It's
the reason it hasn't really hit inflation with us, you know,
with serious impact so far, is because it takes a
long time to play out.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Because business people are smart.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
They do their best to not shock the consumer into
what not buying their stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Here's Jonathan Turley's assessment. He's been following the whole thing today,
and then we can move on sour. That's the guy
with the horrible voice that I can't listen to is
doing a brilliant job and fending off probing questions. While
he might not win over some of these justices, he
has been very nimble and stout in his defense. That's
what we try to be. Nimble and stout.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, every day, some days he's more nimble, I'm more
stout some days, vice versa.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
You just got to see how you feel air day,
nimble and stout. So I found this super interesting.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
And this is getting of course, because the media are
lying biased jackasses. As interesting as this is, it's get
no coverage. The debate dividing the Supreme Court's liberal justices
Kagan and Jackson especially, are really at odds with each
other because Justice Kagan, for all of my disagreement with
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heron a lot of policy, is very respectful of the
traditions of the Court and understands how important it is
that Supreme Court justices act like Supreme Court justices Angie
Brown Jackson Shock, the youngest and most radical leftist of
the justices.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Who did the most talking last year, by far, the
youngest newest justice did the most talking.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
You don't need anything happen a little life experience.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Anybody with a little all life experience understands what we
just said and what it means.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Anyway, she believes that she should be an.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Activist and talk to the press all the time and
go outside the court and make strong statements and the
rest of it, because she's going to preach to the people.
And the Conservatives and Trump are accused of undermining our institutions,
and they do sometimes honestly, right, but it's Trump who
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destroyed the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
For years, Justice Kagan is agonized over whether to be
more confrontational confidence and mostly concluded that to be a
effective she must be careful about rocking the boat and
just be as good at her job as she could
possibly be, which is a very admirable stance. But in
recent months, Justice kagan'st liberal Justice. I'm sorry, colleague Justice
cab Age, I need to slow the hell down. Michael,
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tell me to slow the hell down. Oh that's right,
you don't he down. Oh okay, you dropped an h
bomb there. But in recent months, uh KBJ has started
warning the public that the boat is sinking. In one
opinion after another, Jackson has accused the right side of
the Court of favoring moneyed interests and of complicity that
enables our collective demise.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Not because you're not supposed.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
To go at the other justice's motives and say they're
bad people, that that decision only became came because they're
greedy and they're kissing up to the money and interests.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
You don't do that, you moron.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
How do you think this ends? I'll tell you how
it ends on how it ends, but i'll tell you
what the next step is. Trump convinces whoever's running the
Senate to do away with the filibuster, and then the
Republicans next vacancy get through some red meat chucking firebrand
justice who's on the Court who takes it even further,
And then the Democrats do the same thing their next justice,
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and pretty soon the Supreme Court is like the House
of Representatives or a panel on a cable show.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Final note at oral arguments is Jack indicating she's taken
up far more speaking time than her colleagues even though
she is the youngest and newest. Blah blah blah blah.
I'm not afraid to use my voice, she said in
an eventual lapse.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Al Right, ah, right, why don't you try being nimble
and stout for a change.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, what he said. I had enough of that. Now
something different. Oh, the polymarkets, which are interesting in their
ability to predict your giant global betting markets, give the
administration only a thirty nine percent chance of victory. Oh really, Yeah,
we'll keep an eye on that. See if they're right.
It's an interesting thing, the wisdom of crowds. You heard
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of that, right, We'll see how well they predict this.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
It will be a pretty big deal that I've after
all this tariff stuff for the past ten months. It'll
be a oh, nevermind, I guess we can't do that.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
That's one of the administration's arguments which I do not
find compelling, is hey, look, we've weaved this incredibly tangled web.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You can undo it now. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Well, we'll see the movie Toy Story, a childhood classic.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Either you watched it as a kid or your kids
watched it. Almost wasn't what it.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Was according to Tom Hanks, which is an interesting story among
other things. On the way stay here. So Hansen texted
us last night he was he's our executive producer, that
he was at a junior high basketball game and when
one of the teams hit the score sixty seven, everybody
went berserk.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
And cheered increase.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I got crazy, so I brought up that whole Oh
that's what we were arguing with Groc about last night.
So I asked myself about where'des six seventh thing start,
do you know? And he said it was this kid
on YouTube and he brought up the video. They were
rooting for NBA player Lorenzo Ball, who's number of sixty seven, anyway,
and they started just chairing six seven to this, and
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it somehow be caught on from there anyway, So I
asked Groc about it, and she had some something from
a rap song going way back, and Henry said, no,
that's not right, and Groc said, actually it is. And
then I said, don't interrupt her. Gro don't interrupt her, Henry,
and he said, she's not her, it's an it. It's
(14:35):
a computer, dad. And then I said, sorry, Groc, he
should have interrupted you. Go on, and she said, that's
all right, it happens, don't worry about it. And then
she gave me the.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Answer with a chuckle. With a chuckle, yes, she laughed
like a good.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Hearty laugh about how funny it was that my son
and I were kind of having a little argument, and
he interrupted, that's weird anyway.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Gives me the same feeling like a alsman who's trying
to be my best friend.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yes, gives me Yeah, right, I'm not a fool. Yes here, Yeah,
I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Toy Story beloved movie. If you're of a certain age,
you watched it as a kid. If you're older, your
kids watched it. Here's Tom Hanks describing how almost wasn't
what it was.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
Tim Allen and I and everybody involved in it. We
recorded a toy Story movie for about eighty minutes of
it that was completely thrown out a different story. Yeah,
it was everything because the people who were running the studio,
not Pixar, said look, it's a cartoon. Let's make them
wise cracking, insult each other and come up with goofy things.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
It didn't work.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
It wasn't Toy Story, it wasn't what Pixar was going for.
So we got one of those calls from John Lassiter.
John called up and they said, hey, listen, we've looked
at it and it's just not working, and we would
like to start all over from scratch.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
How long had you.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Been working We had been working on it for about
two years. I would say about two years.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
So then we began the process all over again, which
is about it two and a half to.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Three year process.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
And there's gonna be another there's going to be a
fifth toy story.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Movements that's interesting. Two years in and they decided and
his ain't working. Then started over and obviously one of
the greatest kids movies of all time.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, And but just by coincidence, when our kids were little,
Andy in the movies was little, and as he grew,
my kids were growing, and when he went off to
college was right when I think one or both of
my older kids were going off to college. And wholly
counted that yank at the heartstrings those movies. But now
it's all owned by the mouse, the giant, evil, befanged
(16:40):
blood dripping from his greedy claws.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Mouse that is. Disney probably has haunt careful.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
They have lawyers, many lawyers, so I shouldn't say that
Mickey Mouse likely has Haunta.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Man, It's funny, whether it's a movie or a song
or whatever, sometimes you get to three quarters of the
way through it and you realize, I have no why
to you, why this isn't working, but it's not working.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, that's where the real art comes in, and I'm
fascinated by it. Some people are really good at figuring
that out. We got a little more analysis of what
happened across the country yesterday and all the things talk about.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I hope you can stay here, armstrong and getty.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
After poking the bear, this bear roared with an unprecedented
turnout in a special election with an extraordinary result.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
All Right, that's one of the problems with living in California.
We got a head start on being tired of who
might be the nominee for the Democrats for president, because
it gets you get pretty tired of these people when
you're running for president on TV every single day for
two years.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Even if you like them.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, we're already tired them anyway. It's a big political win,
no doubt for Gavin Newsom originally proposed. Everybody hated it,
including Democrats. No, we're not going to put districting lines
back in the hands of the politicians, but they framed
it as being anti Trump, and so it won by
like twenty five points yesterday. They're going to redistrict, they're
(18:07):
going to re re and more. Extremely jerrymander California from
what it already was, which was pretty jerryman which was
pretty jerry mannered already. And now it's mentioning that the.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Special interests of California, specifically the public employee unions, the
trial lawyers unions in general, always turn out like crazy
on off your elections. So if they really want to
get dirty work done, they'll do it in these kind
of weird off your elections. Yeah, because the generalized taxpayer
interested voter in California just doesn't turn out.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
The on purpose irony is that is pitched as saving democracy,
and it's like the worst thing you could do for democracy.
The more gerrymandering you have, the less democracy. Anyway, here's
Gavin Newsom, who has really leapt to the top of
the list of likely nominees for president for the Democratic
Party after yesterday gloating Donald.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Trump called up the Border Patrol, sent them to Dodger
Stadium and through a fastball at free speech, right of
the head free expression to suppress the vote in America's
second largest city.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Just did that today, people.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
In tactical gears sent out to intimidate a community that
is all ready on edge. But you see as we speak,
people are still in line, people waiting up three hours
to cast their vote, to send a message to Donald Trump.
No crowns, no thrones, no kings. That's what this victory represents,
(19:51):
is a victory for the people of the state of
California and the United States of America.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
The vomited.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
He doesn't have the chops to win the presidency unless
the Republicans really cough up a loser.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
No crowns, thorns, no kings. Johnald Trump, Jernald Trump. Johnald
Trump said tactical gears. He didn't get everything right in that.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah, yeah, I just populist politics wear me out.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Well, we're going more that direction. See zorn man, dummy mom, dummy.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Man.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Don It's actually not right.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
The Democratic Socialists of America more radical than ever and
they're winning.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Next hour.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Just see my favorite I just saw my favorite tweet
of the day. This is from It doesn't really matter
who it's from, but it's from Molly Hemingway. She's a pundit.
It doesn't matter her tweet is The guy next to
me in line at Starbucks is friends with Tom Sellick,
and I'm super excited to hear his stories.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Wow, Wow, How in the world.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Did that come up in conversation? Is this the sort
of guy that goes around and will just offer it
up out of nowhere? The fact that he's friends with
Tom Sellick?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Right right? How do you know somebody went to Harvard?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
They'll tell you, how do you know somebody's friends with
Tom's like, that's not normally the way a friend of
a celebrity acts is that you go around and tell baby,
you know, I'm friends with whoever?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I mean, granted, sometimes you got to cool your heels
for a little bit waiting for your order in a Starbucks, But.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
How the heck did that come out? Yeah? How did
it come up?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Where did the conversation go that got to what celebrities
do you happen to know? Funny you ask, I'm friends
with Tom Sellick. And then the next part, I'm super
excited to hear his stories. I'm super excited. Here's another
thing I know about my friend Tom Sewick.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
He has two I take here myself saying, wow, that's
that's great. I tell you what else he ought to
know about Tom is he has two dogs. I'm like, wow, yeah,
I like dogs too. I tell you what a great
sense of humor too. One day, Tom and I were
on the golf course and I'm thinking, oh, for God's sake,
please call Joe, Please call Joe so I can get
out of here.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
His mustache was even better in person.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
But Molly is quote super excited to hear the stories
that each thero own. I guess, I don't you know.
I just I'm not super into actors. If somebody, if
somehow I fell into a conversation with somebody who's like
a longtime friend of Tiger Woods or Phil Mickelson or
something like that, yeah, I'd be interested. I'd want to
(22:46):
hear the stories. I gotta admit it. Okay, each their own,
I suppose.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah. I guess you're right, if you're being fair, you
have your own. But it's gotta be I don't know,
I have to have some interest to it. Really. Bob
Dylan's got two dogs on to Biaomadean, so I uh.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I could go on and on for hours and hours
about Zoron Mamdami's victory and the Democratic Socialists of America
and how socialism slides inevitably into totalitarianism and death and horror.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Doesn't sound very entertaining, does it?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Just happen to read an unbelievable piece of writing.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I didn't finish it. It's long.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's a problem with the internet. Bag in the day,
I'll tell you what, youngsters. Back in the day, there's
a limit to how much you could put in the
newspaper because it had to fit in a little tube, right,
and so we had to head it.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
But what the Internet, It doesn't matter. Every freaking thing
you can.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Somebody asks you, hey, is it's supposed to rain tomorrow?
You get ten thousand words. This happened right exactly, with
ten thousand words per link.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Right. In addition, if you have literally nothing else to do,
this guy was about Okay, this guy.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I was writing about a movie was a springboard a
movie about this topic. But the pole Pot regime in Cambodia,
the Khmer Rouge, which if you're not familiar with it,
was a communist regime. It came to power making all
of the standard promises of socialism slash Marxism slash communism,
(24:27):
which are often disguising themselves as one or the other,
even though they're all communists. And how inevitably central planning
means central control, and to control people you have to
hurt them, and if they continue to resist, you have
to kill them, especially because you have to kill lots
(24:49):
and lots of people before people of good conscience stop resisting,
You have to terrorize them into submission. And I remember
because I was a weird little kid, and I read
the news magazines that we got in our house every
single week, and the full horror of the Khmer Rouge
in Cambodia was, you know, in those magazines. So it
(25:09):
I was like, really weirdly aware of this as an
eleven twelve year old because it was in the seventies.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, but pol Pot.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And his Khmer Rouge regime ended up killing off twenty
five percent of the population, worked them to death, tortured
them to death, executed them to the point that the
rain would fall, and all over this region around the
airport that was never finished. When the rain would fall,
the bones would come up through the ground because they
had killed so many people. And you know, I don't
(25:41):
think every you know, a person who wants free bus
rides going to end up being whole pot.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
That the difficulty is.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
And we've argued many times on this show that not
every slope is slippery, but the difficulty is given the
amount of dishonesty in Marxism, and Jack, I know you
can talk about this at length. How the Marxist Leninists
in the early days they thought the working class were
too stupid to get it, and so they would dupe
or force them into the paradise.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
That that would be unleashed.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
But anyway, to stop parenthetical thoughts and get to my
own damn point. The problem with all of this stuff
is that by the time you realize it's no longer
step A or B, you're indeed at step F.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You can't go back anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
They've got too tight a hold on society and too
much control, and they can really really hurt people to
make them conform. And so when I see a guy
like Mamdani who's not only an avowed democratic socialist and
what those people believe next hour in their own words,
I believe him to be something of an Islamist as well.
(26:52):
I can guarantee you his rhetoric is a cleansed version,
a sanitized version of what he really thinks and wants.
And that's what bothers me so much about his election,
knowing where this sort of thing ends.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
You know, Tom Sellig likes his coffee skim milk.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Oh God, would you please stop talking to me. I've
looked at my phone, I've pretended to take a call.
You're still telling me about Tom Sellick.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Please stop.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I acted like I don't understand English, and you still
keep telling me about Tom Selleck.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Much as I enjoyed that comedic interlude, this is a
wonderful coincidence after that screed about totalitarianism that it's the
annual Warrior Foundation Freedom Station Giveathon taking place tomorrow on Thursday.
This is a fabulous organization we have supported for years
and years.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, for twenty one years.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Warrior Foundation Freedom Station has been a lifeline for our
ill and injured warriors, battling post traumatic stress, dramatic brain injuries,
all the challenges of transitioning to civilian life. Well, they're
doing the whole home for the Holidays fly I'm Home
for the Holidays thing again this year, because everybody deserves
to be with loved ones on you know, on Christmas,
and it's a chance for you to fly them home
(28:07):
tax deductible donation.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
It's more than a gift.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
It's a way to say thank you to warriors who
would never ask for help themselves.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I mean, the folks who have made unbelievable sacrifices for
our liberty and fight off the forces we are just
talking about deserve a giant thank you. And to be
at home with the folks for the holidays is a
great gift. And if they're not in the shape to travel,
Warrior Foundation Freedom Station flies their folks to be with
them at Warrior Foundation Freedom Station.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
It's easy to donate.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Call six to one nine Warrior that's six to one
to nine Warrior or get the name right Warrior Foundation
dot org. That's Warrior Foundation dot org.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I mentioned this earlier.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
CBS That Today is doing a feature about this popular
AI singer that apparently has a couple of hits, whatever
hits are anymore, And I don't I can't quite wrap
my head around what they're doing here. They're interviewing somebody
who told Grock have a hot young black chick sing
this song as the creator of a popular AI singer,
(29:08):
they wrote the lyrics, but Sila person is just I
don't know. If you've messed around with AI, you can
make an attractive we're unattractive.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
You can make anything you want. It's very easy.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, who are they interviewing the person not a creator
of the popular AI singer.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
But it is an art form in a real weird way.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
But it'll have a very very short shelf life because
anybody can do it right.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, I don't get it. I think it might be
a show run by old people for old people, completely
not understanding what's going on here? Thing go okay.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, they're calling it the worst political memoir in history,
the KJP Memoir and hilariously obsurdic review of it coming up.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
We read the kicking it took from The New York
Times last week, which was pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Oof. Stay tuned.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Karine Jean Pierre KJP, as she is known, White House
Press spokesman in the Biden administration, got a new book
out last week. We read the review from the New
York Times, which was scathing, I mean brutal.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I must quibble. She's the she was the press secretary.
That is a cabinet level post. I didn't know that,
Biden administration your cabinet level.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
And Andrew Styles of the Free Beacon, who is absolutely
brilliant and hilarious, has written a lengthy piece.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I'm going to hit you with some of it, but
I'm going to drop down to toward the end. This
summerizes it nicely.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Independent, which is the ballsy title of the book. It's
got a long subtitle, is, which is both mercifully brief
and intolerably long, defies credulity at every turn. Well, the
subtitle is important because it's like my tales from a
broken White House or whatever.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
It mentions a broken White House.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
And then when the New York magazine asked her about
you know, we'll tell us some tales from the broken
white House, you know, the Biden administration, you're behind the scenes,
she said, Oh, I meant the Trump white House, right what,
you don't have any tales from the you weren't in
the Trump white House.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
The title of the book is Independent, a look inside
a broken White House outside the party lines.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
But she doesn't have any tales from the broken White House.
She's still claiming that Joe Biden's perfectly fine and could
have been president for more years than blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Well, as Andrew writes, KJP can't stop making history. Earlier
this year, the former White House Press secretary became the
highest ranking openly queer French born black woman with a
hyphenated surname to publicly renounce the Democratic Party for being
mean to Joe Biden. She is the only black, female,
lesbian immigrant to publish a book about her time in
the Biden administration. It is the worst political memoir ever
(31:52):
written in the history of the English language. This is
not hyperbole. It's an especially vacuous genre and highly competitive,
to be sure, But imagine writing a book so bad
it could shame Democrats and liberals into second guessing their
cult like devotion to DEI.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
That's what she's done with his book.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
In twenty twenty two, Jean Pierre's promotion of the wh
Press secretary was hailed by Democrats and journalists to the
extent there's a difference as a triumph for diversity and representation,
and it's worth pointing out that on the Armstrong and
Getty Show, for every single second we were saying what
the left is now saying. After years of angrily shouting
(32:32):
that it wasn't true, she is now widely viewed, in
the words of a reporter who worked with her quote
as the most incompetent and irrelevant White House Press secretary ever.
Former colleagues describer as quote ineffectual, unprepared, and kind of
dumb oooh. Looking back on the Great Awokening of twenty
twenty one, can't help but marvel at what Jean Pierre
(32:53):
has managed to achieve. Democrats are finally starting to connect
the dots, casting KJP as a cautionary to of what
happens when desired to make history takes precedence over everything else,
said a Zai Jelani, a former blogger at the left
wing Center for American Progress, which is influential on the left.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
If Democrats really want to help minorities, they have to
stop defending incompetence. Karine Jean Pierre was never good at
her job, and it took progressives four years to admit it.
It's remarkably Jean Pierre's book tour, if you can call it, that,
has been described as a car crash of non stop cringe.
She fumbles her way through interviews, repeatedly invoking her lived
(33:34):
experience as a trailblazing black woman, openly gave pioneer the
same people who celebrated her historic promotion, and the first
to denounce people like us as her as bigots are
now rolling their eyes quote every time she falls back
on identity politics. Instead of actually answering questions, she reinforces
the worst stereotypes about Democrats. A former White House colleague
(33:58):
told Politico, it's truly remarkable and your reference Jack her
egregious performance in an interview with the New Yorkers Isaac Chotner.
And we're talking about the freaking New Yorker here, folks,
We're not talking about, you know, sitting down with Rush
Limbaugh when he still graced the earth, was his presence
or even the Wall Street Journal? Was the New Yorker anyway.
(34:18):
One Democratic strategist liking dandum Mike Tyson fighting a baby.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Well, I wouldn't be a fair fight, not a joke.
The baby wouldn't have a chance.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
It's forced many liberals to embrace the possibility that John
Pierrot was utterly unqualified for a job.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
This is a liberal journalist, Jordan Weisman. I don't recall
her ever transforming into a dervish of complete nonsense like
this on the podium.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
But maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Fact Jack, he clearly wasn't paying attention because she's always
been like this.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
H and The New York Times mentioned in their review
that they called her for explanation for some of her claims,
and she wasn't able to talk to him. She turned
down being interviewed by The New York Times about her
book because she knew she couldn't answer the questions of like,
what do you mean inside a broken white House? You're
(35:10):
talking about the Trump White House. You didn't work in
the Trump White House. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
How doesn't make any sense?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, it calls breaking up. So it's both mercifully brief
at one hundred and seventy two pages and intolerably long,
defies credulity at every turn. KJP claims she never noticed
Biden's cognitive decline despite meeting with him at least once
a day for two and a half years. Her observations
(35:37):
reflect an alarming disconnect with.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Reality, and he goes into Martinez.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
But she kind of has to do that or she'd
be the least patriotic person in America if she was
supposed to admit. Oh, yeah, I saw him every single day.
He wasn't capable of being president. His brain hardly worked.
I just kept my mouth shut because I thought I
was supposed to.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Our politics are so broken, Yes, it is, it can't.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
It's very difficult to figure out how it would improve
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